/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii is the undisputed worst character in this game. On the other end, the best is easily Ame. Her special is imbalanced.
But real men play Bae, because knowing if you're going to win or not is for pussies.

[Anonymous No.]

What? IRyS is the worst.
Her attack is weak af and can't even shoot up or down

[Anonymous No.]

what about Irys, it's Dierys?

her stuff requires her to take damage

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>>26928603
Ame is the best but not for endless.
Just play Ina retard.

[Anonymous No.]

IRyS is weak? NB lv. 6 is out of control good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26928603
>dabs on Ame

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>>26928742
>Her attack is weak af and can't even shoot up or down
are you the kind of person that thinks ame sucks?

[Anonymous No.]

No one is talking about Sana's special that is both invincibility and damage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26929216
It's hard to tell where her hitbox is

[Anonymous No.]

How do I unlock the cutting board?

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>>26928603
>Kronii is the undisputed worst character in this game
>When she has a skill that increase every stat including haste by 50% for being at full hp
This skill along makes her fantastic if your bad.

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>>26929216
i always got fucked when she shrunk down and bunch of saplings already crowding near her

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>>26928772
You still get healing even if you're at full health. It is just wasted excess.

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>>26929842
Get to 10 min as ina

[Anonymous No.]

Why does it matter? the fun part of these games is clearing everything on each character and enjoying the differences

[Anonymous No.]

>>26929860
>Get hit once
>Lose all your stats
>Die instantly

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>>26930330
just don't get hit dude

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>>26930330
Don't be bad, it increase her speed by 50% as well and sue Choco's horns.

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>>26930298
frustrated anons usually make these threads when they find out their oshi sucks ass ingame

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>>26930491
You'd be pissed too if Migo is eventually added and sucks.

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>>26930448
There's only so much you can do when you get mobbed with no openings and enemies are too tanky to make holes.

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>>26930571
Anon you have fucking 50% haste and 50% damage increase what the fuck are you doing with your build to do no damage?

[Anonymous No.]

I like Bae's playstyle too, she's who I'm maining so far
Kiara is way too powerful, the aoe on her sword definitely needs to be nerfed.

[Anonymous No.]

So how come is Mumei able to farm gold exactly? I played as her a little bit but she seems normal.

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>>26931747
Im having the same doubt I tried the guide but wasnt that much of a difference

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>>26930330
Get the Body Pillow then retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>26931900
>yaoi yagoo pillow
No thanks. I'd rather die.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii is mid tier, the worst is mori and its not even remotely close

[Anonymous No.]

>>26931447
>Nerfs in a single player game

[Anonymous No.]

The Devs need to buff Kronii, badly.

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>>26931962
Nigga you need a magnifying glass to discern the figure of Yagoo on that pixel art, stop being autistic. It synergizes great with Kronii's skill. Your shield gets hit, you still have the passive active.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26932221
>TL;DR - I'm gay
m*le dakimakuras are for faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>26931747
Able to minimize weapon upgrades to instead use level ups on getting coins.

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>>26932465
Ok but why? show your work faggot

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>>26930330
Hence the name "Perfection". The skill requires the players to have it.

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>>26931747
Her personal weapon is ridiculously strong so she can spend the entire beginning of the game focusing on items without real regard to how effective they are to shrink the pool of items down until she starts seeing coins. She can reliably clear the 19 minute wave with only a single collab (micomet, elite cooking, or dragonfire, probably flattening board too, take what RNG gives you first). Friend also picks up experience (but not coins) and, especially early on when you only have feathers, will be throwing out a really powerful weapon every 5 seconds. There's still a lot of RNG to get glasses and super chat early enough.

Her special is awful but it has two uses. At the 1:30 shieldbeat wave it will kill all of them, even off-screen, and it only erases experience on-screen so that's a decent chunk of experience. You can then do the same thing with the big wave of running clocks around the 13 minute mark once they run off the edge of your screen.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm new to this game, my best run is 25 minutes with Ame. Which weapons/skills are the best? I've been getting carried by Nurse's Horn + Full Meal and crowd control weapons.

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>>26934388
>with Ame
Stop using Ame. Use a top tier like Ina.

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>>26934430

Ame is cool.

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>>26931962
Then die.

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>>26934430
Ame is the best unless you're a retard.

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>>26934388
Ame is very easy and strong in this game. The best weapons are those that make strong collabs (combine together). Asacoco and BL Books are strong on their own. Dragon Fire, MiComet and Flattening Board are really strong collabs. You can survive for a long time by levelling only one type of sustain (healing, protection item) but Nurses Horn definitely ends up being the strongest.

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>>26928603
Majority consensus is that Mori is the worst, Kronii is basically hard carried by her Perfection Passive which when kept up puts her in Mumei tier. Calli meanwhile is complete ass when it comes to utility and all her buffs are tied to a weapon with a wonky as shit hitbox that gets worse the more you upgrade it.

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>>26930330
>Game has several items that makes healing abundant
>Game also has items that outright negate damage to health
If you can't help getting hit than slap on the body pillow with headphones and stop giving a colonoscopy to enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVLPyoFn0Jk

on in five

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>>26935685
It depends what you're going for but Mumei is in a tier of her own for gold farming since she can still kill everything on-screen early on with just her own weapon. Bae is the best at throwing out damage but that's not actually useful right now. Ina and Gura, maybe Ina more than Gura, are the best for lasting forever in endless mode, but I don't really bother with endless mode myself.

Kronii is definitely in the upper half but nowhere near as good as Bae or Mumei, though I think Kronii might actually be the best beginner character. Her play style is very forgiving since she's the only one to run faster than a slow crawl, before shop upgrades too, and dakimakura + her own healing makes it trivial to keep her at full hp to benefit from her big haste buffs. Fauna also gets some solid buffs and a good panic button, but she needs the player to pay more attention if you're not killing things quickly you'll get overwhelmed.

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>>26932118
The only buff she needs is for her personal weapon. It's currently the worst next to Calli's (the Scythe dead zone sucks absolute shit. Clock Hands either need a damage buff or buff towards it's Awakened ability (increasing the freeze on hit from 0.5 seconds to even just 1 or 1.5 seconds is a major utility upgrade).

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>>26936111
I would personally not recommend Kronii as a beginner character for the sheer fact that her base weapon is rather bad even when awakened and keeping up Perfection is rather tough if your just starting out and getting used to the controls and still figuring out items. Kronii imo though is really fun and good once you get the basics down with someone like Gura who I argue is probably the most beginner friendly (higher speed than most of myth, solid weapon/awakened weapon, good sustain with the shark bite+whirlpool combo, and a fair margin of error in case you mess up with her dodge mechanic).

[Anonymous No.]

What other bosses could they add? Mikodanye?

[Anonymous No.]

why some people seems has troubles using Kiara? even trailblazer on max is enough to kill the giant sapling, just need to move a lot

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>>26936670
some people can't read

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>>26936670
Some people get carpel tunnel due to the Dancer mechanic.

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>>26936633
Hatotaurus
Hosoinu

[Anonymous No.]

>Lui starts playing
>Picks Calli first
>Doesn't know how to strafe because the game basically doesn't explain it

The game should just have a small forced tutorial to make sure the person playing understands strafing, especially since a lot of holos will be playing it and well, they're not the brightest bunch.

>>26936439
Her base weapon is pretty weak but I feel like posters in this thread exaggerate it. It's serviceable early on and unlike Calli it doesn't get worse as it gets upgraded. By the time it really falls off you'll have other weapons benefiting from her haste.

>>26936670
Trailblazer is okay, but her attack boost skill is annoying to keep up and worse than similar buffs from other characters, her shield is useless. Her special is really bad and her weapon is pretty mediocre.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26936633
Giant Subaru Duck, Ayame's Samurai Oni spirit from HoloAlt/Manga, Mumei's drawings, Ankimo, Watcher, that giant snake from the second HoloAlt video, etc

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>>26936781
Strafing was a dumb way to fix the targeting problem, letting you control your aim with the mouse (or second analog once it gets controller support) would be way better.

[Anonymous No.]

Did the dev ever talk about adding multiplayer? Holos cooping the game would be kino.

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>>26936781
It's definitely not as bad as Calli's since it at least works and hits things but it's probably the one the most underwhelming weapons unfortunately. I mentioned it earlier but it's for like a damage buff or just making Awakened effect better like making it last for 1 second instead of half a second to at least give it more utility.

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>>26936781
The game is a demo

[Anonymous No.]

>>26937051
So basically make it like a twin-stick shooter then?

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>>26937051
It clearly wants to be a twin stick shooter, but failing that it has to realize that it has significant control differences from VS and everyone is coming from VS, so those really need to be explained.

>>26937180
Yes it is, thank you for your input.

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>>26937078
Is there even a VS like game that has multiplayer right now?

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>>26937183
Not to the same level as 20 Minutes Till Dawn, just letting you control where the arrow around your character points towards with the mouse would be enough.

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>>26936781
watching lui play calli without strafing is painful

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>>26937222
The only one that comes to mind is Helldivers. And maybe Magicka.

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>>26937222
crimsonland, a 2003 game has co-op

[Anonymous No.]

what the hell am i missing

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>>26937695
super chat and energy drink

[Anonymous No.]

character should have a chiptune rendition of their orisong on play instead of one song per stage

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>>26937695
bottom two are collabs

idol concert is the song items plus glowpens and flattening board is the cutting board with bombs

Feel the wrath of cutting boards.

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>>26936770
man, hatotaurus would be so cool.

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone had any luck with Mumei in endless? All her infinite scaling passives make her seem perfect for that mode, but even with big dick 200-300% attack boosts from her personals and like 3 AoE collabs + her feathers she can't clear the waves fast enough by 28 min or so, and at that point kiting seems near impossible. Are some of the AoE collabs notably weaker than others in DPS? Should I actually be using anvil to pay gold to boost the DPS of 1-2 collabs and her personal instead of getting 3-4, does that actually scale better?

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>>26938095
Thing is what orisong do you pick for the members who have many.

[Anonymous No.]

reposting for those who want it

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>>26937078
don't know how well cooperative would work in this, a 1v1 score race mode where levelups are on a timer and anvils are synced would be cool though

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>>26936766
Compared to similar conditional buff skills - Kronii, Fauna, Calli, Mumei, and IRyS - Kiara's is easy to drop to a moment of inattention, very slow to build back up, and honestly not that amazing of a buff. It's a decent chunk of +attack but Mumei gets way more attack from civilization and both Fauna and Kronii get more moderate boosts across the board that work out to being more useful and easier to keep up. Calli's workaholic is easier to keep up than dancer, and +40% movement speed is at least competitive with Kiara's +20% crit, and I don't play IRyS and I don't think her boost is any good, but at least it doesn't require active work to keep up.

[Anonymous No.]

what if anvils and holozon drops were based on a timer and were objectives?

>every 2.5 minutes a holozon box would spawn
>every 4 minutes an anvil would spawn

it would be on a random place on the map and you had to head towards it.

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>>26938178
Right now endless mode doesn't care at all about how much damage you can put out, only how much sustain you have, and Mumei isn't even that good at putting out damage in endless. Her passives don't scale infinitely: civilization isn't good with the smaller number of individually large enemies that you find in endless and history cannot replace the lost attack enough to make up for it. Mumei doesn't have any defensive tools so she's always going to struggle once her massive attack boosts stop scaling.

[Anonymous No.]

i can only reach the part when the bears appear and you get circled by the shrimps

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>>26938691
...bears?

[Anonymous No.]

What miko based collab is stronger micomet or fujoshi book? I usually grab the book as It gives close proximity defense which is more important and collab miko with chama for huge aoe

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>>26939109

Micomet means you lose out on both elite cooking and BL fujoshi

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>>26937971
>>26938142
i meant to ask how to unlock them since the game doesnt tell you. at least the non collab items, thanks though

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>>26936781
>The game should just have a small forced tutorial
Zoomer faggots like you are why every game is casualized these days

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>>26939204

I forget Super Chatto time, but energy drink is getting to fubkizilla/smol ame as calli

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>>26932118
This. Add boobs to her sprite please.

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>>26939243
Tutorials have their uses. A 30 seconds-at-most tutorial to make sure the user knows the controls would be well placed, especially when it's going to be played by tons of streamers and it's a lot like another game with simpler controls. Doesn't have to be as long as the tutorial sections in Ocarina of Time or Pokemon, but a bit more than super mario brothers since the player doesn't have a physical controller to narrow down all the possible inputs for them.

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>>26939536
>especially when it's going to be played by tons of streamers

even more reason to omit a tutorial, that prime content

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>>26928603
I like kronii the most, freezing enemies is really cool and all but she has horrible late game
You should do extra damage to frozen targets

the worst 2 characters imo are mori and kiara (I have never played them, just don't like those two)

[Anonymous No.]

post ideas for future patch
>new stages
>new enemies
>new item
>etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>26936633
mori

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>>26937695
idol song: survive 10 minutes w irys
super chat: have 5k coins (maybe earn 5k coins in 1 game? heard conflicting things from anons)
energy drink: survive 10 min w mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>26939694
>new stages
hololive office

>new item
rocket launcher
>shoots autoaim rocket
>has knock back on you when you shoot
>big cooldown

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>>26936633

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>>26939925
>>26939282
Thanks friends.
>>26939694
itll never happen but i want a playable A Chan

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>>26939925
You're probably meant to earn 5k coins in one run to unlock superchat, but what it checks is how many unspent coins you have on hand, so you can just reclaim all your upgrades, do a run, kill yourself to the first shrimp, and it counts.

[Anonymous No.]

I am now set.

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>>26939694

>Wrathful Devils helmet
Soothing angelic hat that restores 1/2/3/% health every time you pick up a hologem

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>>26936633
>>26939694
the VR models should be either new boss or new costume

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>>26939204
uoh

[Anonymous No.]

If this game had caravan mode (progress as far as you can in a small amount of time usually 1-5 mins) who wouod be the best?

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>>26928603
i hate ENs therefore i only play the closest JP member, Kiara.

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>>26940218
mumei has highest early game dps with civilization + feathers i reckon, and she also has the special that will save you out of 1 certain death extending her lifespan more in that kind of scenario

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>>26939990
>rocket launcher + baelz

[Anonymous No.]

>5 stage clear runs with mumei for gold farming
>Super chat only appeared in 2 runs
>14 min and 19 min
Fuck you too rng

[Anonymous No.]

i just wanna play as Watame

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>>26928603
Wheres the mating press skill for baelz cmon devs

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>>26940738
You're gonna have a long time then.
Next updates are Gamers and Gen 0. With watame being Gen 4, it'll take years before the devs get to her.

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>>26940576
playable risu when

[Anonymous No.]

>Good run ended because I got stuck on a pillar I couldn't see

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>>26938418
Kronii's buff is arguably the best due it being one of the only few sustainable buffs for speed and haste. The Damage+Crit is good but the speed allows for great map control late game and the substantial Haste increase makes Collab weapons absolutely hilarious. It's not quite Bae's ult where it can get so ridiculous it could lag the game but it's basically the second best thing on top of it being very easy to keep on constantly when you get a body pillow or something.

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>>26941903
After JP probably.... Kay already replied to Ollie and even he said it will take long time. We'll be lucky if he even released Gen 3 by end of the year.

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>>26928603
Gura is the weakest in the game

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>>26948436
>source: my ass

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>>26942258
The visibility of things in this game is total shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>buff mori scythe to lvl 7
>get the elite miasma bucket
>buff all 3 of her special skills
>get the mask and sake to do crit and high damage
>only stand in one place and they die
why do people hate her class again? get the right items and all you have to do is stand still

[Anonymous No.]

>make a fangame
>can include any characters you want
>instead only include characters from one company

[Anonymous No.]

>>26949066
>hololive fan game
>include random 2views and other corpos

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>>26930330
Don't be a fucking scrub then.

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>>26949624
Yes, we should have Shondo in this.

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>>26948767
>get elite cooking
>win
this is every character though?

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>>26939694
The void as a stage.

[Anonymous No.]

dead game

[Anonymous No.]

>>26936633
Susan.

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>>26940258
That'd be IRyS not Kiara, dude.

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>>26939694
Each new character have a boss/basic units from their fanbase
Beating the stage with that character will create a chance to replace a wave with that fanbase
So a win with Botan would have a chance to replace the clocks(kronies) with bombs (SSRB)

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>>26928603

[Anonymous No.]

>>26928603
Do not build all the character with the same items anon

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>>26928603
>not taking the body pillow and headphones
>can't keep his HP full for the passive
NGMI anon....

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>>26939500
add jiggle physics to it

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii is strong as fucking hell if you're good at not getting hit.
Mumeii is a death machine, just max every basic attack steroids and she instakill everythings.

For some reason I can't ever roll Irys

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>>26948767
Good luck with endless mode with that kind of setup, even with an afk max skills sana built with BL/Axe collab, Elite cooking and flattening board with horns, full meal, body pillow and headphones would still die at the yagoo wall

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>>26936770
Eh, save Hatotaurus for Mio special.

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>>26954942
I rather have a pure JP stage than some workaround

[Anonymous No.]

is it viable to clear with max mask

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>>26966600
You can clear smol Ame with basically fucking anything.

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>>26936633
We need a giant tako that splits into smaller and smaller pieces.

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>>26964630
>if you're good at not getting hit
Good luck with that after the 25 minute mark.

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>>26928603
Good. Get shit on, tranny clock

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>>26937222
Realm of the Mad God has been out for a long time, but IIRC it's pretty simplistic compared to this or VS.

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>>26936633
Ankimo
Mikodanye
Almost anything Haachama related
Furball Korone
Any of Korone's joke outfits really
Noel DX
Watamelon
Tatsunoko (forma de :^)
Izutsu
Neighbula

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>>26948024
honestly if it's just releasing different characters it shouldn't take that long, but if he's smart he'll be adding new modes/stages/mechanics as well

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>>26934388
Hang in there!

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>>26969923
The trailers that were released definitely indicated at least one other stage (hopefully with different music - this bop can only take up space in my head for so long).

I'd hope for new bosses, personally.

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>>26928603
>because knowing if you're going to win or not is for pussies
Well, that's certainly one way to look at it. I just prefer to do things in 1-2 moves instead of 10.

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>>26973411
I tried to be economic by maxing out weapons one by one for collabs before picking up any new ones but the horns just don't show up. I died right as my fourth golden anvil spawned at 26 minutes in.

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>>26973750
Its almost always best to take something new if its something you really want for your build for this reason, it eliminates the RNG of hoping to see it later and it also frees up the possible things that can appear on level up.