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Akai Haato/Haachama
Unmedicated Haaton meltdown thread

Stop replying to the bait threads, I know the voices make it hard

>> No.2689406

Goodbye Chama-sama. I will miss you!

>> No.2689418
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It's really happening, isn't it?

>> No.2689429

Pepeloni pepeloni
I will miss you
and be lonely

>> No.2689461
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What is she doing

>> No.2689477


>> No.2689517

Our beloved Haato couldn't stop the beginning. The Final Yab is coming now, no one can stop it. The voices we hear are Her voice, obliterated by time play.

>> No.2689712

this is the final yab monitor
if it gets changed, cancelled, or deleted, yall know whats up

>> No.2689731

we have hope

>> No.2689962

Yeah if she doesn't show up here shit will be real

>> No.2690000

What did she say is the stream? I was asleep

>> No.2690033

she cancelled it right before

weird that coco isn't there

>> No.2690040

I hope amanekanatach is currently deep in her DMs trying to cheer her up

>> No.2690240


>> No.2690244

There was no stream, she cancelled it a mere 40 minutes prior to it.

>> No.2690254

does anyone have a mirror of the stream? i was asleep...

>> No.2690301

the stream was cancelled before it started

>> No.2690962

Coco...save her...

>> No.2691172

Is this a sign? I'm fearing the worst is about to come

>> No.2691594

you just know she is. ppt was super super appreciative of haato. I even think all the gen1 girls are in her inbox too just trying to keep the live event a thing. A lot of them, matsuri maybe most of all was really looking forward to it.

>> No.2691847

I hate this. I hope she feels better soon.

I just want Haachama to be happy. I don't want any more of the creepy multiple-personality horror movie schtick. I want more Haachama cooking and cozy Minecraft and English learning streams.

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Just woke up after going to bed after she cancelled the stream, any further developments?

>> No.2691916

i don't think so

>> No.2691934
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Kanata is such a nice person

>> No.2691975
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she's faded

>> No.2691990

she was so good. If she graduates i would understand almost 3 years of Idol shit as a young girl takes its toll. Love You forever haachama <3

>> No.2691998

> Be Hacchama.
> One parent is a believer in actual death cult.
> Decides for you that "Fuck it, you don't actually need a standard education. We'll send you to a third world shithole for a couple of years."
> Survive despite having to live in run down house, constant battling insects, locals hating you because you're different.
> Get sent to live in a 2nd world shithole with relatives.
> Relatives hate you. Neglect to feed you or include you in their plans.
> House is filthy. Dirty dishes, ants, and flies everywhere.
> Start vlogging to escape your misery. See ad recruiting content creators to be a part of a new method of distribution.
> Looks interesting. You apply and gets accepted.
> Suddenly you're no longer alone. You have friends who want to collaborate with you. Juniors who look up to you. Hundreds of thousands of people who love you.
> And you're making a boatload of money as well!
> You no longer have to worry about starving or eating just once a day.
> and soon enough you'll be home, in Japan, closer to your new friends.
> Soon enough that day comes. But everything isn't fine...
>Your parents don't understand what you are doing. They want you to go to College.
>You don't want to. You've just spent several YEARS in shithole foreign countries, in deplorable conditions, going to school with people who hated you. Why would you want to extend that experience?
> You live at home so you can't stream long sessions, you can't stream during the day when your family is awake, you can't be loud or scream because you'll wake them, you can't do your signature program because it makes a mess and smells.
> You can't move out because your income isn't traditional and your age excludes you from renting.
> Rentals in Japan won't let you be loud or cook stuff that might smell.
>Your most ambitious project got halted halfway through because it might upset the sensibilities of some.
> New rules were put into place to halt you from persuing other dark topics.

It's all too much...

>> No.2692016

I don’t watch her, but I hope that she’s okay and that the doom posting stops.
Stay strong everyone!

>> No.2692073

The antis coming in to dab on us doesn't help

>> No.2692098

Shion is younger than Haato and lives alone in Tokyo.

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You guys need to stop worrying so much, I'm sure it'll be fine in the end.

>> No.2692290

and she could easily live in the holohouse

though she might actually be moving atm

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Probably. I'm just overly empathetic to people who I like even if they're a celebrity who will never know that I exist

>> No.2692381

haachama.. come backk.. pllis.
plis plis..
.haachama cum countdown asmr....
plis lady

>> No.2692486

Chammers, I know I said I was starting to hate you because you didn't stream and because your nasfaq coins were dropping in value, but please don't go

>> No.2693013

stay strong Chama

>> No.2693128

Coco isn't known for being a great singer, and this is a concert. She and Kanata will most likely do irl stuff together instead

>> No.2693166

I don't want her to go. I don't want to say goodbye...

>> No.2693258

Hopefully the doomposting will stop in the coming days. She hasn't streamed in over a week already and we just waited almost a mouth for her initial return anyway. Take the time to do your reps or watch someone else. She'll come back sooner or later, just be patient.

>> No.2693330

It will only grow stronger. Haatons were unmedicated for over a month, and they didn't really recover yet we've got this situation now. Oh well, at least it will be amusing, that I can guarantee

>> No.2693432

>Haachama liked this before leaving Twitter
Translates to "me in life"
What did she mean by this?

>> No.2693538

> One parent is a believer in actual death cult.
source on this rrat?

>> No.2693657

obviously a collaboration with watame

>> No.2693669 [DELETED] 

Brace for hilarious rrat swarms and doomer despair, bring popcorn

>> No.2693758

Just move with some other Holo?

>> No.2693780

That this is her dream job

>> No.2693791

it's a massively viral tweet that everyone is liking, including tons of other vtubers.

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If you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

>> No.2694080

It's so funny that she had to post it in the middle of depressed twitter radio silence.

>> No.2694110

Do not let people like >>2693791 make you take meds

>> No.2694229

>she had to post it
Anon I'm officially more worried about your mental state than I am about Haachama's

>> No.2694264

Keep in mind that we're dealing with a teenage girl here

>> No.2694287

It has already started >>2693432
Man, I really like Haachama, but those threads are quite nice substitute of her content

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Haatons, what the fuck is going on

>> No.2694922

Looking forward to Haachama have a mental breakdown on Kanata's 3d stream.

>> No.2695023

it should read

>> No.2695234

Kanata has been going several times a week to the studio with other members to record stuff lately (see the Ayame/Marine off-collab which was done just because they happened to be together after the recording, or the Towa/Haachama short videos, which are just outtakes), so I assume her birthday guests are not going to be live, but just pre-recorded footage. Maybe some of them will be live at the stream, but definitely not all of them. And of course they won't, with the current 'rona situation it wouldn't even be possible or prudent to put so many talents in the same studio. My point is, just because Haachama is a guest, I wouldn't keep my hopes up for her actually being there on the day of the stream. On a more positive I'm almost certain Kanata will at least try to give Haachama some support. They talk a lot behind the scenes apparently and Kanata is known for having a bit of a savior complex.

>> No.2695368

Looking forward? That's the understatement, I'm literally engorged with anticipation, tumescent even.

I haven't been this erect since Pekora broke down on stream

>> No.2695400

What a cool!

>> No.2695428

Haachama was raped by cover staff

>> No.2695459
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I want the best for this menhera

>> No.2695491

cute feet

>> No.2695500

Cover executives are a bunch of fat ugly bastard monsters

>> No.2695671

Her mom's a Christian. Zombie Jesus and you get your ultimate reward only after you die and all that Jazz.

Isn't Hacchama still under 20? That's usually the cultural "Age of Adulthood" in Japan.

Plus, you think the parents who decided to send her from possibly the safest country in the world to the Philippines while she was a teenager will willingly let her do whatever she wants?

>> No.2696013

So Shion isn't a hag?

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>I will give you my big red heart

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Hopebros, how do you do it?

>> No.2696214

Shion and Hacchama were both scouted while they were in High School, before Cover added age minimums.

>> No.2696246

anyone can live anywhere alone at any age with actual support from their family

>> No.2696282

>and you get your ultimate reward only after you die
Not if you're Kierkegaard's Knight of Faith.

>> No.2696376

Shion is literally the youngest member, she’s 18, turning 19 in June.

>> No.2696427

Maybe If I write her name on the walls she'll stream again

>> No.2696471

Hacchama isn't my oshi, she's not in my top 10, she's not even in the top half of all the Holos for me.
I should be in the Nene threads gushing about Nene's 3D debut last night...

But I still can't help reading each and everyone of these threads and feeling sad that Hacchama is in such a place. I wouldn't wish this on anyone and I hope she's okay. I really don't want her to leave.

>> No.2696485

based saviorfag

>> No.2696626

Same. I'm getting bad vibes from this and I don't like it

>> No.2696738

Thank you for your kind words. Haatons appreciate that.

>> No.2696743

I just hope she is alrigth

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>> No.2697729

We're going scorched earth if she goes, right?

>> No.2697754

This doesn’t seem like it has anything to do with Cover though.

>> No.2697884

Her english is so bad, did she even learn anything in australia?

>> No.2697910

Either she's pretending me no speak english or she literally didn't study at all

>> No.2697974

>learning english from australians

Struth! Me and me mate Bazza were drivin in the ute when some flamin galah cut us off in some dodgy holden commo. we got out and had a bit of a blue or a bit of a dist up if you will but talked it out over a slab of tinnies we picked up at a bottlo nearby. we're goin to bonnydoon next week. Reckon it'll go off like a frog in a sock.

>> No.2697992

More bullshit from people who obviously don't watch her

>> No.2698174

Sadly, people, probably mostly people who are holo-antis are already trying to fuel the rrat that Cover drove her into this state by denying her the right to produce the content she wanted. I mean, of course, she's a teenage girl who suddenly gained a huge rise in fame, just graduated high school and suffered a radical change to her living environment, but it's the people telling her to go easy on the gore, sex and suicide content who are responsible for her feeling unstable.

>> No.2698284

Any substitution for haachama? I haven't been watching as much hololive in general ever since she went missing

>> No.2698314

Why do content creators in general seem to have such abnormally high rates of mental illness?

>> No.2698332

What do you eat to produce this much bullshit?

>> No.2698421

Akirose or Mel

Art is a perfect escapism for real world shit. Easy to imagine a world where life is perfect as you barely hold on to existence with 1 fast food meal a day and showering every 6-7 days.
Get payed to do art and be a female, without remedying the mental factor (JP side seems to encourage the girls to go to dance lessons, singing lessons, and do either "Gen" outtings or work outtings at least) and all you've done is corner the girl into a place where they think what they're doing is okay, since finances are good, and they have fear of trying to change the equation

>> No.2698462

Creativity and art requires that you let your emotions flourish, you feel the world rather than analyze it. It just so happens mental illness can leave you out of control of many of your emotions and many people with mental illness use the creative outlet as a release for their troubles. I'm not saying Haachama is sick but those are my unqualified observations in general.

>> No.2698504

The pressures of constantly exposing your creation to be judged and interpreted by the general public, the effects those judgements and interpretations can have on your perception of your creation and yourself, as well as the pressure to respond to this public's constant and increasingly demanding expectations. Or maybe only mental ill people become creators in the first place.

>> No.2698537


probably many reasons but i can imagine one reason (at least for popular content creators) is that so many eyes are on you, analyzing every tweet you make and obsessing over every piece of content you put out there, and there's this expectation that you'll continue to put out content regularly that is good and fresh and always evolving instead of just being the same thing over and over.

it's extremely stressful for some people.

>> No.2698756

>weird that Coco isn't singing

>> No.2698830
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Incredibly based and Kierkegaard pilled, rrats are truly the sickness unto death.

>> No.2698858

Chammers is not the studious type. Most of her learning would probably have to happen through conversation. It's likely part of the reason why she dedicated so many streams to English, apart from the audience boost.

>> No.2698859

Most exchange students are like that honestly.

>> No.2698917

Hope is dead and buried, lets hold hands and sing or cry

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>> No.2698975

Learned how to get a train ran on her at parties

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I really hope she's ok and her friends are able to talk to her and help her through this.

>> No.2699012

How do you guys cope with her absence?

>> No.2699064


>> No.2699094

Go about my day and maintain a healthy social and work related environment, fully aware this is entertainment so as to keep parasocialism at bay

>> No.2699191

have you ever heard her speak English without playing up her fake voice?
she's better at it than Shartia which you zoomers praise for her engrish

>> No.2699464

Anyone has a link to the bit in the 1st gen collab where Chammers said she didn't like her new manager?

>> No.2699491 [DELETED] 

an speak from experience. When I developed my rapid cycling my bipolar type schizoaffective 2-÷ years ago, a lot of "creative" stuff I had zero interest in before began to absorb my attsntion/interest and also come more naturally to me

Haato isn't at the age bipolar usually manifests though, that's eay 20s.

>> No.2699510

Might need a bit more specificity, she has gone through at least 3 managers and her most recent one was an Otaku who might have been trying to perv on her

>> No.2699625

They same way I cope with any shitty thing in life: work and not think about it.

>> No.2699641

As I am reading this post, and then remembering Haachama's Twitter post regarding her state of mental health, I was thinking along the lines of "Goddamnit, I hope it does not descend to another Roro-chan incident again."

>> No.2699660

Wtf I need source on this rrat

>> No.2699738

How are people saying that Antis? I think it's probably true look at how bland and boring the other holos content is.

>> No.2699759

This art was definitely made before any of this Haachama shit went down. Unfortunate but for now I project a 70% chance we will not see Haachama.
Anyway I'm not going to try and read the mind of a 19 year old teenage girl and being a concernfriend 24/7 is exhausting so I am just going to be a leaf in the wind and fall wherever it takes me

>> No.2699807 [DELETED] 

cringy as fuck man ngl
Dissociation, lack of commitment, and surface level attachment are agents of soul destruction and make for vapid, hollow creatures unfit to be called man because of their over reliance on a socially acceptable scripted set of behaviours instead of steering righteous emotionally driven tempestuous madness through zealous stength of will
Being nothing is easy, just like your whore of a mother

>> No.2699824

You say the exact same shit as that obviously fake haaton twitter schizo who's also pushing this same narrative, the same narrative that retards try to push on matome blogs and a few schizos try to push on 5ch. Are you people part of an organized group or something?

>> No.2699858

Shouldn't a pic of Anya with weird eyes be attached to this post

>> No.2699878

Not much of a haaton and my only interaction with her was catching the occasional stream before the schizo arc and her liking my fan art of it, but I really feel for her, whatever the fuck is happening with her. I know I'd be crushed if it was my oshi feeling like that.

>> No.2699879 [DELETED] 

>Australia is a 2nd world country
Good one
>Relatives hate you
She was living with a white family that her dad knew, at his expense, and they treated her like shit because she was an ESL chuuni, basically neglecting her while leeching off her dad's money.

>> No.2699910

Im not that's just my opinion. Why do people think any criticism of hololive makes somebody chinese or a schizo? Why are so many people so sensitive in this fanbase?

>> No.2699920

She moved with "grandma" later on in her Australia arc. Never watched enough to tell if it was her biological grandma or not or if that's just what she called the old lady of the white family.

>> No.2699968

>2nd world
The 2nd world doesn't exist anymore dumbass.

>> No.2699972

it's actually not that weird at all

>> No.2699994 [DELETED] 

No, that was her actual grandma as far as we know and she treated Chammers well, far better than the bogans did.

>> No.2700077

actually 'rona is quite fine in Japan for some reason (border control and being a goddamn island) so they can just waltz into the studio with 20 people in theory.

>> No.2700190

How are Indogs able to go to Japland then if the gates are permaclosed?

>> No.2700207

>How do you guys cope with her absence?
I'm not a haaton but all the ones I know either fucked off and became a twitchtuber or moved on to nijisanji

>> No.2700210

bidnis, nigga

>> No.2700233

Test before plane trip, 6 day quarantine after, test after quarantine.

>> No.2700326

Well fuckin a, i cancelled my trip to japland because i was told pools closed. Now i guess i can take a 2k gamble to see if i can go or get told to GTFO filthy americuck

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Just your average 35P having seen enough of this shit in his life to make this call better early


If you don't have the time/means/can't be assed, spread this message every thread.

Prepare for the worst case at least physically if not mentally. You'll pat yourself on the back when it's too late. You'll hate yourself forever if you didn't do it and she's gone for good now. Other Haatons may be on the case already but it's just as probable they burn their houses down randomly while "cooking", who will be the hero to seed the big red heart collection then?

>> No.2700405

the only thing you should look for is official papers online. Right now a toilet paper roll list of countries is shut out for good, yours might not be on that list. In doubt, email your embassy what your possibilities are right now.

>> No.2700673

If the embassy says go and japan says no, do i get some form of compensation? friend of a friend is there literally right now enjoying sakura blossom shit, and she won't tell me how she got in without a cheap "work" story

>> No.2700691


>> No.2700738

>If the embassy says go and japan says no, do i get some form of compensation?
No the risk is on you at all times.

>> No.2700861

>Go back home
>Sit in this hotel for 2 weeks while we test you until you leave

>> No.2700912

Based schizo

>> No.2700939

Japan just got out of a state of emergency after an outbreak of the wuflu over the new years, I'm pretty sure if they do that they'll get thrown in prison

>> No.2700942

Well I mean if your country isn't straight up blacklisted all you have to do is get a negative test (most countries ask for one done up to 72h before the flight but it can vary) and then suffer through the mandatory quarantine period if applicable. Usually the quarantine is prohibitive for most travellers since it eats up far more time than they can take off their work but if for some reason that's not a factor for you then go ahead.

>> No.2700992

I downloaded Haachama's archive current as of like July or August. It was a 800+gig torrent which took me about a month to download. All her more recent vids I used youtube-dl and/or other random torrents.

I'll be seeding this until I hit a 1:1 ratio which will probably take me until the Summer so to all my Haatons who are interested in it I will be seeding. Probably not 24/7 but at least a few times a week.


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"Please wait while we lobotomize and chip the sockpup- err, Haachama before she tweets again."

>> No.2701144

>"Please wait while we lobotomize and chip the sockpup- err, Haachama before she tweets again."
so you will post this as much as you did last month?

>> No.2701201

What is this from?

>> No.2701219

I'm not whoever you think I am. I just expect a very sanitized tweet considering the potential impact on the company.

>> No.2701228

Not a full on rabid cover hater, but after all the stupid shit they pulled last year I don't trust their meddling to just be "telling her to go easy."

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>> No.2701366

There are the 2 things I think contributed to Haachama’s current depression, and ultimately caused her to question her entire identity.
I will never forgive l*eddit for asking “did Haachama kill Haato?” a million fucking times in every way possible until it lost all meaning and she forgot who she was. It’s referred to as ‘Flanderization’ and it’s essentially character death, you become a caricature of yourself.
Nor will I forgive EnMa for preventing a lonely Haachama from maintaining the friendships she had developed during her time in Australia. When she returned to Japan she must have felt like a visitor in her own home having been gone for so long. The friendships she had formed with HoloEN would have been completely unchanged whether she was in Japan or Australia, but EnMa cut her off from that relationship. When she needed a friend the most they taunted her identity and left her completely isolated.

>> No.2701407

bless you haaton

>> No.2701429

I've got 4TB spare and gigabit fiber, so I'll get working on this as well. If there are other torrents like this, I'm happy to seed those as well.

>> No.2701463

Fucking this.
I put more blame on EnMa than Reddit because it seems like HoloEN shot down every chance she had to be remotely creative with the HoloENs. It's absurd how they treat people in their own company like outside contractors.

>> No.2701535

Check out the Hololive thread on /t/ for any more files and uploads. Might have to check the archives depending on how helpful they want to be.
I've got a members-only torrent of hers but never checked to see if any of it overlaps with the channel rip

>> No.2701546

Same for Subaru. I think the age minimums came in with Gen 3 which all were mid 20s or older at debut.

>> No.2701628

i can't believe cover executives mindbroke her

>> No.2701652

well, let's take this time to get PoPiPo to 1M now that Red Heart is at 3


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>One parent is a believer in actual death cult.
Stopped reading there

>> No.2701873

Japs love that shit though

>> No.2702268

So what is the consensus rrat here?

>> No.2702270

Do you know anything about the members only Ban RTA from August 19? I am having a lot of trouble finding it.

>> No.2702359

If it's the video I'm thinking of then I couldn't find it either but I'm pretty sure all she did was look at H-artwork of herself except she did a piss poor job of censoring and most likely deleted the video because of it.

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I just think she's having an extended depressive episode right now, whether that is due to depression/bipolar or if something drastic happened to make her feel like shit who knows.

>> No.2702425

Yes, it had actual nudity in it.

>> No.2702468

Yea the most I've been able to find of the vid were screencaps which showed her looking at a nude image of herself with a nipple in plain sight

>> No.2702470

Think this time it actually is of her own accord, obviously compounding on the shenanigans cover pulled with last hiatus along with prepping for the gen 1 concert and kanata concert at the same time

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Please remember that chammers is at a turning point for her life. She's in front of that crossroad we al go through before choosing our careers or even going to college. It's just a lot harder for her because she has an extra option due to her already active career as an entertainer. The best thing you can do if you care about her is to simply give her time and support. Chill the fuck out with the rrats and archive what you can in case the worst happens.

>> No.2702493

Just like Americans love fire and brimstone church preachers.

>> No.2702525

The worst is just beginning, its bad enough the entertainer is not doing content but seems to be not in the mental state to be doing content.

>> No.2702817

she was sexualy abused by cover

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>> No.2702858

its the most believable rrat at least.

>> No.2702910

>not a single evidence
>"the most believable rrat"

>> No.2702966

The other rrats have more evidence?

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>> No.2703170

She's a teen who hasn't even gone to college yet so she'd be worried about her future

>> No.2703259

A girl her age with all the stress and responsibilities she has to deal with causing mental health issues is the most believable, since she tells us all the evidence supporting it.

>> No.2703339

Hardly counts as evidence to me but fair enough.
I guess we'll see what happens pretty soon

>> No.2703418

If you want a fair and medicated answer, there's so little information about what's going on with her that it's near impossible to form any sort of narrative. Just wait for a statement from her, which isn't going to happen, or from Cover. If it's a Cover statement, assume the worse.

>> No.2703465

If this is the title, it is privated.

【赤井はあと】究極のBAN RTA[Member only]過激すぎてみせられないよ><

>> No.2703491

It's basically the Occam's razor default rrat, to the point it could barely even be called a rrat

>> No.2703633
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The DeepL translation makes me even sadder. I will miss you forever bromie.

>> No.2703732

Are you cucks really coddling her after a bad breakup?

>> No.2703785

i dont get the people saying "she will be better if she goes to nijisanji". Her 'lore' videos will get overshadowed by Mayuzumi's, her English streams are inferior to Noraneko and she'll be robbed in short clips by Mito or Kenmochi. Haachama can only shine in Hololive where others are normal

>> No.2703846

You're so close to admitting that your oshi is only relevant by piggybacking off her coworkers and the Hololive name.

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This doesn’t look like she was planning an apology. Something is really bothering her and there is nothing we can do. I can’t even remember a time I have ever seen her get angry.

>> No.2703903

That's true for like 95% of Hololive vtubers

>> No.2704032

at least she pays the brand back instead of just leeching off it like shion

>> No.2704070

Regarding the apology, it could have been frustration at herself for not being to keep her streaming promises. Regarding her mental state, rrats were being spun every which way, but ultimately we can be sure of nothing.

>> No.2704379

It’s not really like her to plan a stream 12 hours in advance, and then change her mind 30 mins before live. Then to leave with such a strongly worded goodbye makes me very worried. The image only adds to the confusion, especially for an apology. It’s not even what the image is, it the fact that she chose it. A rage fueled apology is usually a very bad sign. Be well Haachama.

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Keep your chin up Haatons, your oshi just needs some time.

>> No.2704431

She hates us, isn't that the case?

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>> No.2704659
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I remember trying to kill myself at her age, in hindsight those were the best days of my life.

>> No.2704909
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don't say that I'm worrying

>> No.2705804

Is it weird to cry about a vtuber?

>> No.2705876

How much ever time she needs. What's important for her is that she feels comfortable and stable, same for every other streamer. A long time away is better than a permanent breakdown or worse.

>> No.2705925

I really hope Haachama actually kills herself on Kanata's birthday livestream

>> No.2705950

Yeah, but suicide excludes you so it's not technical a death cult...however, her mom would definitely be a very angry over the ecchi haachama streams.

>> No.2706075

I believe her: unstable mental state. She is menhera. The first step to getting better is admitting you have a problem so saying it publically like that is a positive first step.

>> No.2706087

Haachama commiting suicide on live stream is a necessary sacrifice that will cause a big yab and force Cover Corp to close down and Haachama will be known as the martyr freeing the Holo's from Cover's authoritarianism

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The only word from a cover employee we've gotten is this comment on a reddit post about it. Not much to go off of but I am not super worried, if she skips the Kanata Concert then I will be.


>> No.2706139

Good news incoming! I just confirmed that she is currently moving into Holohouse, and will resume regular streaming once she's settled.

>> No.2706278

I have also heard that Haato has recited the Shahada and has begun making preparations for her Hajj. Truly there is no God but God and Muhammed is his prophet.

>> No.2706314

rrat is chronologically wrong my dude

>> No.2706325

source: your ass

>> No.2706356

Is there any possibility of saving her developments with HoloEN? She had nice streams with Ame and Ina as far as I can remember, and it's not like the others of then gen hated her. It could've been great for all of them, and I wanna believe it still can be

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>> No.2706426

so the death cult is basically just catharism?
time to purge the heretics

>> No.2706475

HoloEN will have their wings clipped until EnMa is out of the picture

>> No.2706487

Coco broke the lid on the great EN firewall recently so maybe they'll get their heads on straight if reddit pushes them

>> No.2706505

its easier to type

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Would meds save her?

>> No.2706686

The lack of meds is why we love her
Nobody wants a lobotomized ark apex chama

>> No.2706712

Really? What happened?

>> No.2706803

What will her choice of suicide be for the inevitable live stream?

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>> No.2707036

i hope chama's situation isnt s serious i dont want to chama becomes a mel 2.0 T_T

>> No.2707056

Hardly a lid breaking, that just looks like the explanation for Coco's inability to collab, which my voices have pretty much acknowledged as the consensus. Even though Haato was in a similar boat, she still got some collabs in until management/something else just decided to stop her

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>> No.2707093

based schizo

>> No.2707177

yeah but before it was rratposting from people that can actually infer things, now we've got the closest thing we're going to get to "EN managers are being fags" so the braindead youtube only watchers and reddit can join the fun

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الله أكبر يا أخي

>> No.2707290

So this is why radishfags have flooded this board recently

>> No.2707318

Ah, makes more sense looking at it that way. Here's to hoping for the best, then

>> No.2707330

oh shit the most believable rrat has arrived

>> No.2707966

These past few weeks have made me go full gosling over her and IDK how to feel about it

>> No.2708094

Most of these Haatons thought Haachama was playing 4D chess for the content even as it became increasingly obvious that she had gone insane. If anyone suggested otherwise they would jump on your back.

>> No.2708170

An immature 19/20 year old has a large fanbase and is struggling with personal issues with a spotlight on her.

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since your oshi is my oshi's oshi I am very ploud of you

>> No.2708246

she is stressed/tired and taking a break
bad machine translation sends EOPs into a frenzy of OMG SHE'S GOING INSANE AND MIGHT AN HERO

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They could've saved her. Any of the girls could have saved her.

>> No.2708315

Oh grow up. These are real people.

>> No.2708354

>bad machine translation
nigger how the fuck do you translate 精神状態が不安定 as stressed/tired and not unstable mental state

>> No.2708862

Do we even know for sure that is was EnMa who prevented her from interacting with the EN girls and it wasn't someone from JP side?

>> No.2709041

can't know for sure but haachama gets free rein as long as it's japanese content, pekora also got shut out, all the cross region collabs have been holos that are less popular with the EN audience, and they're trying to have Coco be forgotten by not even mentioning her by name so it's not looking good for the collective Enma

don't forget she's chunni as fuck and might have just stubbed her toe

>> No.2709102

>Chammers is not the studious type.
She used to be studious before the transformation, at least with her language reps. She would do them onstream but actually try instead of doing her retard act. During her gradual change to Haachama, she stopped giving a fuck about taking her reps seriously and thus her eigo got much worse over time. It's a shame...

>> No.2709153

精神状態 is for minor stuff like stress and exhaustion, you know, like she already said she was suffering from?
If it was more serious she'd use 精神疾患
tbf it's also a problem of her saying it all in a very formal way

>> No.2709501

She just needs an eigo life coach to let her be haachama full time while making sure her english doesn't slip. Maybe show her some new creepypasta too since she's been leaning hard on "who was phone"

>> No.2709601

If she cancels her appearance in Kanata's stream then it's maximum worry time

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Why doesn't Haachama feature any of the other Holo's channels?

>> No.2710835

You're twisting the translation to suit your own interpretation. Even if it is used for it typically, you can't translate it directly as stress/tired and if you do you deserve to be sacked as a shit biased translator.

This anon has the right idea because he points out it's not the wording but her intent >>2709041
that matters

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She cut ties with all of them. She will shoot Kanata in her birthday stream.

>> No.2711029

oh god oh fuck

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Welp time to pretend to be sick and call out in a couple of days

>> No.2711119

Pretty sure this happened a while ago, and it might've even been a glitch.

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>> No.2711191

stop being a retard because some sjw fags ruined your games

>> No.2711203

Seriously what the fuck is EN management doing? From now on they will be my boogeyman of choice.

>> No.2711251

I went into the web archive and it looks like it happened sometime after October 26th since they were all there previously. Still weird that she is the only account I saw that doesn't have other Holos recommended.

>> No.2711286

korone doesnt either

>> No.2711304

She's in a rough situation. Unless she appears and streams today or before Kanata's stream then anything else she does will lead to her getting a lot of attention which I imagine she doesn't want right now

>> No.2711356

Interesting. I didn't check hers before but you're right.

>> No.2711401

Here's my rrat about the stream:
>She wanted to do some fake press conference thing where she apologized for not streaming enough or whatever, meant to be mostly tongue in cheek, not really serious
>She left the preparations until the last minute as usual
>Realized she couldn't get it done in time, at least not how she had imagined the stream
>Panic, cancel stream, write something about mental health on Twitter

>> No.2711478

I thought about this being the case as well, but...idk. Don't wanna really feel like an asshole if it actually turns out to be something more. I wouldn't even care if she's simply out of ideas and doesn't know how to handle it, anything is better than her gradually getting worse mentally

>> No.2711489

Reminder to choose your backup oshi now before Haachama graduates

>> No.2711497

According to one of Matsuri's freetalks, the girls just upload their videos in private and then tell their manager who does everything else. If there are no featured channels its because Chammer's manager doesn't care enough to do it.

>> No.2711538

I can't decide. Someone recommend me a replacement, I'll go with the first reply.

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>> No.2711555

Ame obviously still cares about her because of her tweet during the last disappearance

>> No.2711572
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Disloyal haatons will be panished!

>> No.2711578

Will do.

>> No.2711648

Unironically the best voice actress and cool character design.

>> No.2711652

I'm probably going to take a break from vtubers for awhile if she graduates. I only watch a handful of other ones and I really don't want to risk this happening again since it has been making me feel much worse than something as irrelevant to my life should.

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This is going to continue to happen, over and over again, anon.

>> No.2711887

Kind of lame, last time she ended up procrastinating too hard she sent a tweet that said "going to be late sorry" or some such, not that she was unstable.
Plus, not streaming for several days because you didn't have one stream ready? That's something she would do if something were wrong and she really was mentally unwell, so it only proves the tweet is somewhat genuine, just lacking context.

>> No.2712116

The other vtubers I watch all take regular hiatuses or seem menhera so I have no confidence in just trying to kick the basket down the road. There are a few more I like the content of who seem more sane, but they usually stream while I'm sleeping so I'm SOL on that unless I start basing my entire work/sleep schedule around them which just seems even more of an unhealthy attachment than the already bad one I have to Haachama

>> No.2712337

could it be possible for Cover to be mix in within the lore.

>> No.2712616

could it be possible for you to stop being dumb

>> No.2713392
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Thinking that the person who made me feel so happy is now going trough shit is beyond depressing.

>> No.2713416

Is it possible that you are an actual retard

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>> No.2713566

Also her menhera power level is similar to Haato's

>> No.2713794

i am sorry

i can't anymore

i quit

>> No.2713823


>> No.2713871

Hachama sub channel features other holo's

>> No.2713913

>Isn't Hacchama still under 20? That's usually the cultural "Age of Adulthood" in Japan.
Not just cultural.
That's the legal definition of adult in Japan.

>> No.2713926

It may have been an apology, if we consider what the image is referencing (the "that's a lie!" scene for Higurashi no naku koro ni). So she may have been apologizing for lying when she said she was going to stream every day.
Or it may have just been a neat edit she happened to see and she set it to be the temporary thumbnail before she decided what the stream was actually about, which has happened before.
For a lot of chammer's streams we really shouldn't take the thumbnail or stream title at face title. She sometimes changes them before the stream starts, or just puts stuff in there that's entirely unrelated for no reason. We can't just assume that screaming pic = she is mad about something.

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>> No.2714382

can't what?

>> No.2714409

Google translated the description as sincere.

>> No.2714703

It feels like just yesterday we had the Unmedicated Haaton Collaboration Thread....

>> No.2714795

The description was just the start of the stock formal apology

>> No.2714799
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In orfer to appease Haachama and show her how strong her fans are, I will eat the 2 super spicy noodle bowls back-to-back without puking
Then I will send her proof, with or without puke

>> No.2714895

Is there a full version of the pic here (without the post) or is that it ?

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>> No.2715040

thanks much

>> No.2715086

this is the most reasonable post in the thread we must prove ourselves to Haachama by doing dangerous tasks like eating spicy noodles. I myself just made a cup of coffee (without milk)

>> No.2715134

She literally just got back from a mental health hiatus and now she is back on one again.
There is no way that she doesn't graduate by the end of this year.

>> No.2715613

but that's how you properly drink coffee

>> No.2715644


>> No.2715748

Everyone's having the time of their lives while Haachama's sitting in a corner suffocating in the retardation of her own making. Serves her right for getting high on fumes from the shit shoveled by EOPtards.

>> No.2715801

I really wish she never tweeted anything. What good does it do? None of us can do shit for hey and it just creates a ton of concern and rrats for no benefit. Worst of all it's put a huge damper on Nene's special day. It's like having your birthday on 9/11. I hope the best for Haato but she doesn't think enough about the repercussions of her actions.

>> No.2715813

I will fap to her until I get brain damage

>> No.2715816

Probably studying and practicing for concerts (Kanata's thing and 1st gen). Also, getting a place at Holohouse.

>> No.2715859

>thinking she'll move out after being away from her family for that long
She's super close with her sister and mother. Fucking retarded newfags keep making shit up about non-existent family problems and other retarded newfags just snarf it down.

>> No.2716280

She's graduating. Deal with it.

>> No.2716296

Haachama is still in the past right? this is basically the time where she said Taiwan

>> No.2716346

dunno about you man but that's how i drink it if it's not powdered coffee

>> No.2716362

I think she's woken up from her delusions, it's taken a big toll on her blain though, as being flung backwards and forwards through time probably would

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>> No.2716592

shame she's only repeating the hiatus and not the yab to go with it, even if it's a meme like florida independence

>> No.2717951

Ah..another day haatons, stay strong. And good day to aantichama as well. Let's hope she feels better soon. Do you reps today. Maybe, just maybe you'll be karmicly rewarded.

>> No.2718558

It's sad but Hololive can survive losing Haachama. Fubuki, Coco, and Marine however are irreplaceable.

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She's not coming back any time soon, right?

>> No.2720960

>I myself just made a cup of coffee (without milk)
Have a good time, drinking coffee like a man.

>> No.2721034

she's not coming back at all

>> No.2721065

They all come back even Ayame and Mel.

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>> No.2721164

I want to believe this rrat for the reason my oshii has not been posting

>> No.2721713

They'll survive but it'll be a pretty big hit to their reputation with the EN market and a good portion of the japanese too. Wouldn't be surprised if there were some follow on graduations if it came to it either

>> No.2721990

I'm willing to suspend my doomposting until Kanatan's birthday. If she doesn't show up there then it's time for the 3rd trumpet

>> No.2722098

I´m an poor fag with an particular bad luck with HDDs, because of that I'm only could save the shots

>> No.2722148

It'll be a month minimum, probably more. I don't think she'll be at the birthday either if she's unwell. But she'll be back.

>> No.2722234

It would hurt them a lot, especially with the big EN fanbase she has, but they'd survive. If Fubuki, Coco, Marine, Pekora, Korone or any of the ENs graduated suddenly it'd be crippling. I'm praying no one graduates anytime soon.

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Shes a burning memory...

>> No.2722562


>> No.2723769

What if it's better to move on?

>> No.2724459

Dadchama whipped out the belt the last few times he caught her streaming.

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Her return helped encourage me to get through a job interview and I can't even send her a supa to thank her

>> No.2726842

I wonder how true is the rrat of Coco giving Haachama the keys to the KanaCoco apartment.

>> No.2727287

It sounds like Haachama was Coco's oshi prior to joining Hololive. Would you give your oshi the keys to your house?

>> No.2727404

Is it a rrat if she said it blatantly on stream?

I'd give haachama the keys to my car too, I need to see where the adventure takes her

>> No.2727481

I'd give Haachama the keys to everything except the new lock on my fridge

>> No.2727844

What about the key to her cage?

>> No.2728763

house, car, heart, pants

>> No.2729603

She only gets to come out when it's streaming time so of course I keep it just out of reach silly

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