[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers


View post   

File: 27 KB, 603x228, 6027C62B-6A3B-4126-A80F-77D552DEFA77.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26833567 No.26833567 [Reply] [Original]

>Main income is literally donation tips
>Travel to America
>"WTF WHY AM I BEING FORCED TO TIP???"

>> No.26833599

Kiara antis running out of ammunition

>> No.26833610 [DELETED] 
File: 36 KB, 588x242, 1656177903896.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26833610

What did Uki mean by this?

>> No.26833612

just the tip

>> No.26833636
File: 497 KB, 900x900, 1649581728564.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26833636

A tip should be something you do as a gesture.

>> No.26833688

>>26833567
Euro here, I am the same kek.

>> No.26833742

>>26833567
Why would you stay at a hotel that forces you to pay for breakfast? That shit is usually complimentary.

>> No.26833763

>>26833567
>ITT: Hypocrite vtubers
I didn't knew that you were forced to tip in Kiara's streams.
>Main income is literally donation tips
Not for most holomems.

>> No.26833766
File: 35 KB, 923x600, Mr-Pink.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26833766

Tipping is retarded from a non american standpoint, and an American standpoint.
Don't tell me you haven't seen Resevoir Dogs...

>> No.26833770

>>26833742
She went to the hotel for their breakfast buffet and she didn't stay there.

>> No.26833793

>>26833567
>Kiara
I mean, this is too easy, might as well posted the Nyanners is a hypocrite copypasta from god knows how many years ago.

>> No.26833818

>>26833610
Guess the higher ups already forced him to delete it, cause I can't find it now

>> No.26833837

>>26833610
We need another great war. We really do.

>> No.26833855

>>26833567
>owner of a fast food joint
>doesn't like to tip
what a whore.

>> No.26833869

>>26833610
probably bitching about the us supreme court thing

>> No.26833894

>>26833855
what fast food places ask you to tip?

>> No.26833895

>>26833855
fast food joints in america don't run on tips for the most part, only actual restaurants and even the more high-end restaurants have the tips in the bill.

>> No.26833899

>>26833818
It's deleted, but you can find tweets replying to it like:
https://twitter.com/CHARLOT52730572/status/1540663287020367872
https://twitter.com/KiKi_Letitia/status/1540640343263432704
https://twitter.com/voxlzy/status/1540652879454711809

>> No.26833973

>>26833610
Are there any redpilled nijjers or are they all faggots and whores?

>> No.26834004
File: 144 KB, 215x400, 1638388586319.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26834004

>>26833567
Wait wait wait.

I get that "tipping as culture" part of America, but IN THE BILL, like the actual place telling you that you have to tip and how much? That's just lying about how much you will have to pay for something, that's not how I heard it works. and with how companies are, they're 100% exploiting this for super profiting and their workes aren't even really seeing that cash.

>> No.26834021
File: 24 KB, 290x164, 1652754611770.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26834021

Fucking hell.

>> No.26834045

why is tipping american service workers a thing? are they not being paid a fair wage?

>> No.26834061
File: 82 KB, 1200x675, B889F6D2-8C26-4F6B-91DD-1A4EC96F50AA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26834061

>>26833567

>> No.26834080

>>26834045
>are they not being paid a fair wage?
Waiters live off tips, the actually get paid below minimum wage somehow and it's still considered legal

>> No.26834094

>>26833567
Tipping is a Jewish trick, based Kiara not falling for it

>> No.26834110

>>26833973
Uki id the last one id look to, to be redpilled

>> No.26834152

>>26834004
It's real, but I don't remember if you are forced to pay that tipping amount.

>> No.26834161

>>26834004
I see so that's the trick, other countries:
>you have a proper salary for your work
in America:
>you have a shitty salary that you won't even be able to survive on but also gets a fixed % of every sale
It makes so workers have to work extra hard for the tips to please the customers, and demonizes customers that are not satisfied with the service. Win Win for the company.

>> No.26834168

>>26834004
I wish it was only for America. I once entered a place like that and later found out in the bill was something like 10% as forced tip.

>> No.26834174

>>26833567
Is there really a need for this thread?

>> No.26834209

>>26833567
tipping is the most Jewish thing ever

>> No.26834289

Burgers are butt hurt that a euro is trashing their tipping culture.

>> No.26834288

>>26833567
Becasue in civilised countries waiters are paid a proper wage and they are not relaiant on tips.

>> No.26834305

>>26833763
Kiara literally starts crying if you don't tip at least $5

>> No.26834325

>>26833567
this is the reason I'll never superchat a vtuber. Kiara gets paid a salary by Cover to do her job, if she has to rely on tips maybe Cover should look towards the European companies and pay their employees a fair living wage

>> No.26834353

>>26834045
They literally get like 2$ an hour plus whatever they can from tips, which are often pooled together with tips other servers bring in. It's absolutely fucked.

>> No.26834359

>>26833567
If they force me to tip, I'm not going to tip.

>> No.26834364
File: 178 KB, 406x430, 1649092633398.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26834364

>>26833567
I can't believe she doesn't tip. I'm going to tell all my American friends about this, and we are going to get her canceled. Say good-bye to your oshi, KFP.

>> No.26834375

>>26833567
america is one of the only 'civilized' countries with tipping

>> No.26834420

>>26833855
Do americans tip at fast food joints?

>> No.26834427

>>26834004
Some places even take a cut out of their employee's tips.

>> No.26834444

Tip culture is a scam implemented by the hospitality industry so they can avoid paying a living wage.

A meme so strong that when you point out how stupid it is americans get mad.

>> No.26834457

Do americans tip even at buffets? What the hell?

>> No.26834458

>>26834305
So does your mom when I'm done with her.

>> No.26834465

take a note from Steve Buscemi's role in Resevoir Dogs
never tip the fuckers.
ever.
and if they get in your face about it you clock them unless theres a number of them in which case you put your hand in your pocket and pretend you have a gun

>> No.26834468

>>26834444
checked

>> No.26834495
File: 38 KB, 250x248, 1655059253975.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26834495

>>26834427
that's downright immoral

>> No.26834513

>>26834444
Quads have spoken. Like always, Burguers are retarded.

>> No.26834517

>>26833567
Anon her main income is ad revenue. Supahs are just side money for her.

>> No.26834559

>>26834045
They get paid $2.13/hr but by federal law they can't get paid less than minimum wage. What people who work tipping jobs don't tell you is that not a single one would want tipping to go away. They do a monkeys job for way way more pay than they deserve.

>> No.26834568

>>26834444
featuring Steve Buscemi as Mr. Pink

>> No.26834596

Even pushing aside how retarded american tipping scams are, you have to understand that the civilized world genuinely doesn't know the intricate details. That's genuinely someone that doesn't know how to act in a place that's used to see people from abroad, not someone complaining she has to.

Like, it's so assbackwards it's genuinely baffling. It's the equivalent of someone asking "so you have to do the unga bunga dance for breakfast and not just after meals when eating at [third world country]? Oh, nevermind, the bill says what dance steps to make to not have the food shaman piss in my drink"

>> No.26834608

>>26833837
>another
next one is the last one

>> No.26834628

If you get the bill after eating, don't tip

>> No.26834685

>>26834559
This right here. I worked as a line cook and had to spell it out one time. Servers will always bitch about slow days where they made less then minimum wage but leave out they made 3 times the cooks working Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

>> No.26834704

>>26834444
Holy shit this it's amazing how many people don't know this. Outside of the US waiters get paid a normal wage so tipping is actually entirely complimentary or not done at all because it's not needed. Wait staff in the US can get as little as like 1/3 the minimum wage so those tips are unironically required for their survival.

>> No.26834747

>>26833567
The tipping system is just a way to bypass laws to pay under minimal wage. Tipping should be something you do for someone if you feel like it not mandatory.

>> No.26834770

>>26833567
No, you don't tip when there isn't a server to give you service.

>> No.26834787

>tweet merely asking if she has to tip in specific situations in America
>retards somehow misinterpret it as complaining about tipping culture
it may not be SEA hours but it sure feels like they're still out to play.

>> No.26834806

>>26833567
Tipping is a cancer and there is literally nothing wrong with bitching about it.
t.American
Also that bullshit where they have the tablet screens you pay on even if it isn't a sitdown restaurant that ask for tips. What the hell am I tipping for in that scenario? Extortion so they won't spit in my food? Total fucking bullshit.
>>26834704
everyone knows they get paid like shit you fucking faggot why the hell should it be my problem

>> No.26834868

I don't like Kiara but I can't fault her here. I wondered why all waitress/bartenders were cunts to me in America before somebody told about tipping.
It does baffle me why tipping is a thing when they have a 15/hr wage.
America is fucking weird.

>> No.26834943

>>26834420
lol no

>> No.26834963

>>26834868
>when they have a 15/hr wage.

>> No.26835027

>>26834868
Most places here don't have $15/hr. Federal minimum is $7.25... but if you're in a tipped position, it's actually $2.13 and they just expect you to make basically all your money from tips. It's fucked.

>> No.26835044

>>26834444
Retard. Waiters and waitresses make more with tips then if they got paid minimum wage. Being a waiter is not a job you are supposed to live off of or own a fucking house. They'll just fire employees or hike up their prices. That's how it works

>> No.26835095

>>26834868
They make more with tips than minimum wage + no tips. You euro fucks are retarded

>> No.26835104

>>26833610
This reminds me of the hopeful message at the end of Wicked World.

>> No.26835129

>>26834685
>but leave out they made 3 times the cooks working Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
wtf they don't split the tips with the cooks? the ones that do most of the job?

>> No.26835181

>>26835044
>Being a waiter is not a job you are supposed to live off of or own a fucking house.
>This is your brain on burgers

>> No.26835187

>>26834770
Because fuck the people who actually made the food I guess.

>> No.26835189

>>26833599
I'm usually a kiara-anti cause she always seems a single step away from going full karen, but I gotta agree. If anything, it'd be based if she was anti-tipping.

>> No.26835206

>>26834495
It's still legal until you can prove they're doing wage theft (which is quite illegal). And even then the amount of money used to so the lawsuit will be less than what you win even if it's a class action lawsuit.

>>26834704
People want and need to ensure that the US doesn't look outside to see how backwards fucked up their systems are. Ensure that they think the whatever shit goes on the US is how it is in the rest of the world and they can continue get screwed over by corporations.

Of course say you want them to have a livable wage and then you'll get "BuT wHaT aBoUt TiPs" when they don't realize that wouldn't be needed if they actually got paid properly

>> No.26835268

>>26835095
>You euro fucks are retarded
Sorry we don't tip because our employers aren't greedy Jews and pay proper living wage instead of having employees depend on handouts.

>> No.26835291

>>26834704
Topping is still done is most countries, WHILE having a living wage. It is much more compulsory and not baited by pitying of the worker's job.

No EU countries I have been to ever impose or highly suggest tipping, but everytime I've been somewhere with a big party (more than 6 people) if we are well taken care of and service is nice we tend to tip.

>> No.26835292

>>26835189
>if she was anti-tipping.
She is not. She’s just a lost tourist in a foreign county asking about what’s normal to do. She already tipped generously even for people who absolutely didn’t deserve it.

This thread is absolutely retarded. I mean even by /vt/ standards.

>> No.26835319

>>26833567
Fat greasy Burgermutt fingers typed this post.

>> No.26835362
File: 40 KB, 510x624, 1642266280918.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26835362

>it's another 300 post episode of non-Americans discussing American politics like they know about it

>> No.26835406

>>26835187
Cooks don't get tips 95% of the time

>> No.26835413

>>26835292
Agreed. She was just asking cause she's unsure. Not surprising, given how weird american tipping culture is and how risky it can be to get it wrong. I'm from her corner of the globe and I'd feel the same way if I ever visited there. There's reasons to dislike Kiara, but this isn't one of them.

>> No.26835464

>>26835362
>it's another 300 post episode of Americans expecting the rest of the world to adhere to their retarded standards

>> No.26835491

>>26835362
We are so forced to know about it it's exhausting.
An Austrian problem is an Austrian problem that'll have a few Austrian people bitching. An Americal problem is everyone's problem

>> No.26835490

>>26835187
They get paid proper wages unlike the servers retard.

>> No.26835503

>>26833567
So after mooching free 3D off of Ame and not paying for an EU studio, saving $1,000s, she's asking her followers if she should put an extra$2-$5 down on a bill as a tip, when most of her income comes from tips?

>> No.26835506 [DELETED] 

>>26834161
American salaries are on average 1.5-2x higher than in Europe. Waitressing is not a salaried job. Waitressing is also not a commission-based job. Your knowledge about america comes entirely from misconceptions from the internet.

>> No.26835570

>>26835503
I like this shitpost

>> No.26835573

>>26833567
Man you guys really reaching for this one. You’re gonna sob over everything, huh?

>> No.26835602

>>26833567
>be american
>watch stream
>forget to tip the streamer
>she bans me

>> No.26835618

>>26833567
Are you actually forced to tip, like they'll act like you didn't pay the full amount if you don't, or will they just give you the stinkeye but let you go if you don't?

>> No.26835636

>>26835503
>when most of her income comes from tips?
it doesn't

>> No.26835648

>>26835362
I wish I could live in a world where I’m not informed 24/7 about what’s happening in the US.
I feel like I know more about that shithole that my own country because of how much we’re swarm with US information and news.

>> No.26835653

>>26835044
>Retard. Waiters and waitresses make more with tips then if they got paid minimum wage. Being a waiter is not a job you are supposed to live off of or own a fucking house.

Burger level brain.
Its a gamble, and these people don't have the money nor qualifications to gamble away the little they can get.
I also see you are a fan of the jew narrative that those are transitional jobs so we shouldn't give a fuck and treat those workers like shit.
It could be (and it is in the rest of the world) a job that people can live off and build a life.

>They'll just fire employees or hike up their prices. That's how it works
That's why civilized countries have laws that prevent firing people for no reason and provide job security regardless of your profession.

>> No.26835711

>>26834004
Okay, so here's how it works: in America, if a place accepts tips, when you get the bill there will be a blank line labeled "tip". If you're paying with a card you write in the amount you want to tip, or you can simply give the server your tip in cash. That's it. That's what Kiara is talking about.

>> No.26835725 [DELETED] 

>>26835464
99% of these kinds of threads are europeans seething americans don't use metric daily or shit like that, no american has ever said "laugh at these europeans for not using feet and yards". We literally don't care what you do.

>> No.26835764

>>26835490
Actually, they make jack shit. Often the wait staff will make more.
t. former line cook

>> No.26835766

>>26835618
You aren't actually forced

>> No.26835785

>>26835464
You do you. I don't care how you pay for food in your country

>>26835491
>>26835648
Nigga just turn off your TV and quit paying the license lmao

>> No.26835790

>>26835503
She’s asking where and when she should tip. Different countries tip differently for different services and 90% of the replies were "lolno you don’t tip for hotel breakfast".
Not a burger tho, so I have no idea if she should tip or not.

>> No.26835812

American tipping culture is cancer

>> No.26835831

>>26835785
More like cut my internet connection and live under a rock.
There is no escape.

>> No.26835869

>>26835044
third world mentality

>> No.26835896

>>26835648
Its okay anon, by the looks of how things are going there, it will be 10 years until they all go full Amish and we won't have to hear about them anymore.

>> No.26835898

>>26834420
the only places i can think of that you might tip are like... sit down restaurants (aka NOT FAST FOOD) and like... bars. and getting food delivery, like a pizza or something.

>> No.26835913

>>26833567
>Is friends with "ALL OUT WHORE"
>People are somehow surprised she acts like a cunt

>> No.26835916
File: 181 KB, 1138x1138, ac4fc945af02bc0ddae3a8ac5002e610.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26835916

>>26833567
>unfamiliar with American tipping habits
>asks if she's supposed to tip at a breakfast buffet
>HOW DARE SHE!?
The absolute fucking state of Kiara antis

>> No.26835962

>>26833610
He likes killing babies

>> No.26835971

>>26835618
No, not at all. If you don't tip and go to the same restaurant repeatedly, you might get bad service, but it shouldn't matter for a tourist.
Of course it's very rude, since servers make less than minimum wage and are expected to make up the difference with tips, so unless you get terrible service it's accepted that you give something.

>> No.26836028

>>26835971
>servers make less than minimum wage
How is this even legal?

>> No.26836110

>>26833610
>be american
>get a back alley abortion
>don't have enough money to tip
>abortion doctor rapes and cums in me

>> No.26836124

>>26834353
>which are often pooled together with tips other servers bring in. It's absolutely fucked.
servers frequently make more than BOH. why do you think women line cooks so rare? or even one working the fryers at chain restaurants and shit? because they can sit at the front, no matter how dumpy looking, say a few sweet words and get a bunch of tips from some retard boomer that can barely get their dick up, and then sit in front of the window complaining about how annoying the customers are to the guys sweating their brains out in the kitchen that have to process whatever retarded shit order gets sent there
>HEY 86 THE CHEESE, ALL GONE
>hey guys so i know you said no more cheese but this guy said he wants the extra cheesy cheese supreme with extra cheese on top
>bitch are you for real
>>26835971
>>26836028
if they dont make enough to cover minimum wage the employer has to make up the difference. we have laws for this shit.

>> No.26836201

>>26836028
I'm not saying it's moral or anything. The entire US legislature is essentially owned by businessmen so we have a bunch of laws that fuck over regular people in favor of them. It's still nice to tip the guy making two bucks an hour, though.

>> No.26836225
File: 558 KB, 400x300, 016A9C64-4381-4A59-8258-96030986E63E.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26836225

>>26833567

>> No.26836253

>>26835506
Americans end up spending much more on most products and services since they can't fathom market regulations or state sponsorship.
How's the Myth of companies competing gets you lower prices going for you? Cellphone companies, energy companies, healthcare, all orchestrated monopolies that fuck you over constantly and you cheer for their freedom to keep fucking you.
That is why a waiter in Europe can earn less than in America and live a better life.

I care for America. Some of my favorite things are from America (music, shows, technology, science). It just feels weird seeing people work way too hard and get too little, and being treated like shit and still thinking they have and are the best there is.

>> No.26836272
File: 205 KB, 791x814, Tips.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26836272

>>26835790
You can literally ask Google while Anne Frank stares at you. You don't need to tweet that out to thousands of people.

>> No.26836283

>>26835044
>Being a waiter is not a job you are supposed to live off
Every job is something you should be able to live off, because every job is something someone has to do, and by definition, they must be able to live to continue doing it.
You do this shit but also complain that illegals keep taking your jerbs.

>> No.26836297
File: 192 KB, 1080x520, 1636539687157.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26836297

>>26835916
>The absolute fucking state of Kiara antis
Reminder that pic related is the mental state of kirara schizos.
They should absolutely keep doing it so that every /here/chuuba can see how low and how retarded they can go and give their full support to Kiara and make fun of antis. Just like Mori did with Mousey.

>> No.26836296
File: 38 KB, 478x463, 1654977963400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26836296

>>26833567
>Bill at a hotel breakfast bar
What the fuck? Every hotel I've ever stayed at with breakfast like that has had it included with the cost of the room. You just walk in and grab whatever you want, no bill or tip.
Methinks Kiara is staying at some luxury five star hotel and being surprised it's expensive.

>> No.26836303

>>26835785
>American threaten your country because of its policy without acknowledge its unique problem
>Re structure part of economy to accommodate for US capitalist
>Causing local company to falling and bought them, effectively colonizing the country

"Just ignore US bro. It's just that easy."

>> No.26836306
File: 212 KB, 1057x592, 1656184653312.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26836306

>>26833610
Finana liked Melody's tweet. I knew the dumb feesh wouldn't be able to help herself.

>> No.26836345

>>26836306
It's the Current Thing, how could you NOT!?

>> No.26836347

>>26836272
>You can literally ask Google while Anne Frank stares at you. You don't need to tweet that out to thousands of people.
KFP is about ten time faster than google and she already admitted that she was using them just like you would normally use google.

>> No.26836362

>>26836306
>be American
>forget to tip after liking tweet
>you have been blocked

>> No.26836380

>>26836345
>current thing
go back

>> No.26836390

Everyone introduced tipping at some point over the hysteria these past couple years and it has confused me. Like why the fuck would I tip people who are doing what they are paid to do, what the fuck is the logic there? What about when multiple people helped make my food or one did good and the other bad? Who is getting that tip? Sometimes they get you to pay before they've even done the service, if you are preemptively tipping then it's not based on merit at all. If I have to wait in a line for fifteen minutes to get my food, then it doesn't matter how good you did it, I've spent more in time then the tip is worth already.

>> No.26836409
File: 169 KB, 850x857, 1638769531931.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26836409

>>26833567
normal countries have wages.
retarded countries have to resolve to tipping.

>> No.26836444

>>26836380
seethe

>> No.26836447

>>26835971
I see.
So it's like a Mafia fee. Either pay the good treatment fee or else.
That's great.

Burgerchamma why...

>> No.26836452

>>26833567
Americans are so retarded

>> No.26836462

>>26833837
>be american
>get captured as a POW
>tip captors

>> No.26836466

>>26836296
yeah definitely think its that. no one is going to come stop you for making waffles with whipped cream and toppings and cereal and fruit and coffee and whatever other shit they have for you to take. she's probably at some higher class place because she thought the general area was "dirty" or something or she saw a homeless person and got scared

>> No.26836478

>>26836253
You say it like the average American doesn't realize they're being screwed over. Our political system is fucked, only two parties and neither of them care about normal people. It would take some kind of violent revolution for things to change in any meaningful way, which isn't very likely unless things go even further downhill than they already are.

>> No.26836487
File: 657 KB, 360x203, 3700E101-D592-45C8-AA23-3831EA8A18AE.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26836487

>>26833567

>> No.26836490

>No no no, you HAVE to tip ogey??
Fucking mutts I swear to Christ.

>> No.26836500

itt:thin skinned mutt pussies

>> No.26836502

>>26835913
Pomu isn't a cunt. Leave her alone you psychos.

>> No.26836531

>>26836478
>be american
>riot in the streets
>get tear gassed
>tip the police

>> No.26836575

>>26836390
You tip because the people who you tip (waiters, delivery drivers, etc.) are basically unpaid, they get $2.13 an hour.

>> No.26836588

>>26836390
In theory, it gives the waiters an incentive to do a good job since no one will tip them if they're dogshit at serving you. It's actually just an excuse to pay them less but y'know

>> No.26836592

>>26836466
I think most hotels also serve as restaurants for people who are not checked in. She might be just stopping by for breakfast since she woke up quite late and had to check out or it's a completely new place.

>> No.26836600

>>26835971
You know, people like you are why tipping culture will never go away. Your country normalizes the bad behavior of the people who get the tip but then claims the fault lies with the employer. Servers have no fear of ever making less than minimum wage, if they don't make enough in tips, the employer has to pay them the rest. They want tips so they can go past minimum wage. But the fact that pop culture has always portrayed it as a positive that they give bad service, piss in your food or whatever else just because you don't tip them means that even if the employers were required to pay minimum wage even if they get tips, tipping culture would still not go away and they'd be just as mad at you for not tipping them as before.

>> No.26836620

>>26836303
>"Just ignore US bro. It's just that easy."
But it is. Just like you ignored your English reps

>> No.26836634

>>26834004
>>26834045
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q_vivC7c_1k

>> No.26836752
File: 1.05 MB, 1080x1025, 1656179149526.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26836752

>>26833567
I never tip and they can't do anything about it because it's not illegal to not tip. Besides, the restaurant will just pay the server more if you don't tip so it's all fine.

>> No.26836764

>>26836600
I'm not saying it's a good thing, dumbass. I'm saying that you personally not tipping isn't gonna make a difference, and it's kinda mean to fuck over the waiter because you don't like tipping culture.
>muh minimum wage
$7.25 an hour is not enough to live on in most places.

>> No.26836778

>>26836531
Kek

>> No.26836780

>>26836575
>>26836588
I don't live in the US, this is a new phenomenon. So they are already making more money then their job is worth. I don't understand how the logic works here. They just expect people to be brainwashed enough by American media that they will just pay the tip anyway. Even shit like pizza delivery, it's like they already charge a fucking huge-ass delivery fee and then they expect me to also tip the person? It just discourages me from ever buying the food to begin with.

>> No.26836783

>>26833567
fucking kiara, always forcing me to superchat she... wait, she doesn't do that,

>> No.26836840

>>26836764
If you know you won't make enough money with the job, you don't accept the job. If it was actually not enough money rather than not as much as you want, nobody would take the job and they'd have to pay more.

>> No.26836940

>>26836592
I probably don't stay at the same hotels Kiara does, but most US hotels do not have food service beyond breakfast and a few vending machines. If you're staying in some resort town or a very expensive place, sure, but then we're talking like $300+ a night when the average place is half that or less.

>> No.26836947

>>26836600
>They want tips so they can go past minimum wage. But the fact that pop culture has always portrayed it as a positive that they give bad service, piss in your food or whatever else just because you don't tip
This has literally never happened you schizo eurofag. Name one piece of popular media that implies it's a good thing for employees to fuck with your food because you don't tip, you can't, it doesn't exist.
You're confusing this with jokes about fast food workers spitting on your burger but fast food workers aren't even tipped.

>> No.26836983

In my country, tipping is something the rich ojisan do to flex on their friends when the waiter do an exceptionally good job and being extra friendly. So, i found it weird when i went to US and my friends was telling me to tip when we were just students. Like wtf!? I aint got that kinda money just throwing at your mid ass service. Bitch didnt even smile while serving us

>> No.26837072

>>26835362
yeah america lives so rent free in other countries media it's hilarious
imagine how little some people in america understand about the country they fucking live in and then imagine that filtered through the lens of an entire other country and then filtered again through the brain of a moron from that country
image if you asked some retard from the appalachian mountains about japanese politics. why would you expect them to know anything even remotely accurate about it?
>>26836390
in america the only places you tip in food are at sit down restaurants and during delivery and it is OPTIONAL. there are LAWS that require the employer to MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE if the server does not make enough in tips to cover minimum wage. servers frequently make more than minimum wage, the people that actually made the food will see NONE OF IT. if you are at a place that lets you tip the kitchen workers please do so instead of the servers, their job is shittier, hotter, more stressful and the demographics and turnover of kitchen staff represent that.

>> No.26837184

>>26834045
Good service workers usually love the tipping system because it means they can get paid a shitload more than they would if they were just on a minimum wage salary. The only people who actually dislike the system are the loser workers who don't do much work and introverted twitter users who hate having to give more money to poor people. Either way it's good manners to tip a good server in any country which focuses on services - Euros are just anti-social and hate having to be personally nice to others.

>> No.26837213

>>26836947
There was a whole popular movie about it when I was a teenager called Waiting..., I guess in other movies it generally is fast food but it still gives you the impression your food should be ruined if you aren't the one going in there as if it's your job and you are doing customer service for them.

>> No.26837217
File: 1.67 MB, 1256x979, 1635658026136.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26837217

>>26833837
So you're saying we need to go... all out?

>> No.26837289
File: 255 KB, 500x374, retard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26837289

>26833837
>"We need another great war. We really do."

>> No.26837363

>>26833766

It’s common here too, I just leave like 5$ if I’m not forced to take a % cut.

>> No.26837459

>>26837184
>Either way it's good manners to tip a good server
Nigga every server are SUPPOSED to be good.

>> No.26837516

>>26837184
sounds like a burgers cope

>> No.26837532
File: 652 KB, 700x600, ridiculous.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26837532

>> No.26837606

>>26837217
yeah, we all need to go outside

>> No.26837688

>>26833567
fuck burgerland, you fucks don't even have the taxes on the price tag.
backwater ahh country

>> No.26838191

>>26833567
>doesn´t know shit about austrian culture
>makes fun of them anyway when they ask for help how to act appropriate when visiting another country
Did you ever leave your shitty country? There are many places where tipping is an insult, like in fucking Japan, the country she lived before and which might have made her aware to ask those things first to not come off as rude

>> No.26838320

Every time I hear anything new - hell, even something old that I have just not heard in a while - from the US, it brings my mood down hard. I am incredibly thankful that I have to just hear about these things instead of actually having to deal with them.

Anyways, Kiara is not in the wrong, and even if she was saying what OP thinks she was saying she'd still not be that bad.

>> No.26838376

>>26835095
because your minimum wage is a joke aswell
how come you guys always claim to be so rich but can´t even afford to pay a living wage to the weakest people in your society? Why are over 500k people in USA homeless? Get your fucking country back on track before you turn into a 3rd world shithole

>> No.26838708

>>26833567
>foreigner calling out on Merica's bullshit
a tip should be an optional gesture and only complimentary to the worker's income like with the chuubas, not forced while being 80% of the worker's income like on your burger shithole, that's straight out jewish nigger behaviour, and it makes you a kike for defending it

>> No.26838917
File: 153 KB, 330x327, 03a5fa063ca0d8bafbc7f2e4419b87a4a967bf36a0cc637bbf23c57a65572c15.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26838917

>>26833567
Delusional Americans still think his/her country is the best even when servants are relying on tips rather than proper wage and gas price is now $7 per gallon and rising.

NGMI

>> No.26838967

>>26833855
>Thinking that fast food joint need tip
You're not American aren't you

>> No.26839008

>>26833855
Pretty sure KFP locks up employees who accept tips in the usual room

>> No.26839009

>>26837184
>Either way it's good manners to tip a good server in any country which focuses on services
It's literally not

>> No.26839024

>>26833567
>>Main income is literally donation tips
Not even reading the rest of this thread. Take your bait and return to where you came from.

>> No.26839027

>>26835095
So you retards are just making customers to pay what is supposed to be paid by their bosses...

>> No.26839048

>>26837184
You are neither a Burger nor an Euro. And if you are you have neither worked as a server in either country nor tipped anyone in EU beyond spare change.

>> No.26839049

I don't tip. It's employer duty to pay worker not mine.

>> No.26839160

>>26839027
If the bosses have to pay more they'll just make you pay more for the food. Honestly, tipping culture is mostly a rich people thing. Yes I'm annoyed when I have to not give a tip because it seems presumed I will give one but I feel this same nonsense over when a store has suggested donations for charity. Like, if I was willing to accept charity, those sorts of donations would be going to me half the time, so the implication I should be giving to them and I'm a bad person if I don't is retarded. But people who actually tip are generally rich and they famously overtip because they like to show how rich they are, it's a way for them to jack off in public.

>> No.26839173

>>26838376
This is what baffle me. USA has pretty much one of the biggest land ever, and yet some people are forced to live in tents, homeless shelters, cars, even in some extreme case, in the woods. How hard it is to build affordable apartments and giving proper wage.

Hell, I remember reading a news article that some politicians are taking down homeless shelters. This is so fucked.

>> No.26839216

also why the hell is a buffet asking for tips? Every person serves themselves at buffets. Fucking scam

>> No.26839264
File: 218 KB, 1708x1466, 1653756965437.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26839264

>>26833567
The absolute social ineptitude of you people. She is asking if you are supposed to tip as a courtesy, not if the food she's eating will be more expensive than what it says on the card - which she just acknowledges to be the case without a complaint.

>> No.26839277

>>26839173
Those homeless people want to live there. Nobody wants to live in the empty parts of the country. Most homeless people are mentally ill so they survive off things available to them in those major cities that they couldn't get in some empty field in Montana.

>> No.26839312

>>26839216
Someone gave her an orange juice, please understand.
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1540754053390823424

>> No.26839337

>>26833567
why is she tweeting about this?
what an attention whore

>> No.26839389

>>26839337
This thread has been up for more 2 hours, asking google would take 10 minutes, she got an answer from KFP in less than 10seconds.

>> No.26839443

>>26839160
I felt that donation is no longer about helping someone/something in USA but more like another virtue signaling. I saw a lot of awful American Youtubers did donations just after they did some fucked up things. And the sad part is that it actually worked.
Make mistake - "Tearful apology" video - Make event and claim that 10% of said money will be donated to charity - fans cheered and forgive him/her - status quo

Even DSP did this trick

>> No.26839455

>>26839173
How hard it is to build affordable apartments and giving proper wage.
the cars are part of the problem, zoning laws forces most of the land to be used for parking.
and the government doesnt like investing in actual solutions and would prefer to do literally anything other then the easy solution.

>> No.26839470

>>26833567
Tipping people that aren't supposed to be tipped is awkward and strange. People who are FROM here find it baffling. Like, you almost always tip waiters at a restaurant where you sit down and eat. At drive-in restaurants, you typically tip the person who brings your food out to you, although only a token tip (like $1, or the change from your bill); whereas you wouldn't do that at a drive-through in pretty much any circumstances. If you're going to pick up food from a restaurant, you probably still put a tip on the bill because they still had to prepare your food and bag it up, and they are still paid tip wages, but some people argue this isn't the case, so they are less offended if they get a smaller tip. However, if the restaurant's main business is take-out, you likely DON'T tip unless you get it delivered (e.g., you don't usually tip for pizza you pick up yourself).

Outside of food, there's no real rules. You tip the guy that cuts your hair, but not the one that changes your oil. You tip the guy who opens the door for you in a fancy building, but not the guy who greets you at the door at Wal-Mart.


Some of this probably feels intuitive for some of us. I'm sure people will argue against some of these points ("yeah, well in my home town of Assfuck West Virginia, we...").

But if you're not from the US, you probably know fuck all about tipping culture.

>> No.26839477

>>26839027
According to /vt/ tips are deducted from salery, so in this one case you could remove the words "supposed to be". Of course /vt/ could be lying and I never cared to find out so make of that what you want.
Can you imagine superchats being deducted from a corpo's salary?

>> No.26839506

>>26833636
This. If your service was good you get a tip, if not you get nothing
>but people need tips to survive
Then improve your service

>> No.26839510

>>26839277
>Most homeless people are mentally ill
A good country help their mentally ill. Not left them in the cold fending for themselves.

>> No.26839554

>>26839337
>A woman tweet something
Anon: "ATTENTION WHORE!"
Shut up anti

>> No.26839592

>>26839470
>Outside of food, there's no real rules. You tip the guy that cuts your hair, but not the one that changes your oil. You tip the guy who opens the door for you in a fancy building, but not the guy who greets you at the door at Wal-Mart.
This is spot on. This is exactly the kind of retarded rules that change in every country you go.

I asked Kiara if she tips hairdressers in her German learning member stream and I was surprised to learn that in Austria they don’t. Because even in my non-tipping culture country, we still tip hairdressers.

>> No.26839594

as expected from first world country!

>> No.26839678

>>26839592
>Paid $80 to $200 for hair treatment
>Still giving tip

>> No.26839696

>>26834685
line cook as well, yeah servers are almost always the biggest divas and complain about the stupidest things

>> No.26839791

>>26833567
>reading comprehension: non-existent

>> No.26839805

>>26839510
They literally don't want to live in flyover states. Even when you give them a sort of basic income to live in those low population states they refuse just to live on the streets if LA or NY

>> No.26839877

>>26837184
>200 shekels has been deposited into your account

>> No.26839918

why does every 3rd Kiara related thread diverge into /pol/ 2.0?

>> No.26839919
File: 157 KB, 600x444, homestead.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26839919

>>26839455
no one wants to build affordable living.
unless the government subsidizes costs or incentivizes it, or an extremely wealthy person eager to reform their image as they get into old age starts doing it, it will not happen.
also, america has lots of space but it's just that, space with a lot of space around it. maybe euros dont get it but there is honest to god wilderness in america to this day.
you cant just build some houses, they have to be within reasonable distance to actual society and services like doctors and banks and places to work and eat and do business.
there's no incentive nor the financial means for the average person to go out and pretend like its the wild west and there's acres of free land and a burgeoning society that is going to pop up around you if you go and live out there.
also you have to consider that a lot of homeless are not simply homeless because theres nowhere cheap to live, a lot of homeless people have untreated mental illness and simply cannot hold a job or take care of themselves
my source: the entire history of america

>> No.26839927

>>26839470
I don't think it's too different in Europe, just that the social pressure behind tipping isn't as high. In Germany you also tip waiters in restaurants and bars and delivery guys. I tip for every alcoholic beverage I get, each time I am getting one, regardless if the barkeep or a waiter hands it to me. But if you hand them cash and don't say that "this is the correct amount", you will get change back down to the cent, and if you pay by card you have to specify how much you pay them.
I don't know about drivethroughs because I never went to one.

>> No.26839955

>>26837184
USA is not a service country. You guys literally treat waiter/tresses like shit and their job is considered a joke. You know what a truly service based country? Japan. Their price might be a bit more expensive but it's for giving their employees proper wage and make them proud worker.

Meanwhile in to good ol US of A the 1%er are employing illegal immigrants because they can just paying them peanuts while crying on Fox News and CNN about how immigrants ruining the country.

>> No.26839957

>>26839918
Americans are annoying

>> No.26839972

>>26833567
america so free they don't pay staff lol

>> No.26839988
File: 38 KB, 186x113, 1642195644394.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26839988

As an American, I never tip unless you're actually good and also I'm racist.

Didn't bring me water on a near constant basis during my dining? No tip.
Didn't clean my neck fully and prevent bad cowlick with my haircut? Be surprised if you get $1-2 bucks.
I take all my luggage etc into a hotel, I'm not fucking tipping you
Anything other than that is too bougie for my regular personal life, so I'm not going to know, therefore no tip.

>> No.26840108

>>26839805
Helping the mentally ill here doesn't mean giving them money and tell them to go away. Build facilities to help them heal. Or if they can't heal, at least they have a bed and warm food and not be a danger to society and themselves.

>> No.26840126
File: 11 KB, 300x300, our gang alfalfa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26840126

>>26839988
>Didn't clean my neck fully and prevent bad cowlick with my haircut
this you? lmao
"Our Gang" lookin ass
alfalfa, little rascals lookin ass lmao sit down brother

>> No.26840192

>>26840126
Speak English

>> No.26840206

>>26836306
contact ninji to get her to unlike it

>> No.26840284

of all things, I hoped this schizo shithole of a board would be safe from tipping threads, but not even that

>> No.26840300

>>26840206
I thought about it. The dumb bitch has the impulse control of a 5 year-old

>> No.26840306

>>26833567
America's obsession with tips is retarded. You tip exceptional service, not people fulfilling the basic requirements of their jobs.

>> No.26840379
File: 22 KB, 487x648, dandy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26840379

>>26840192
Is this, perchance, you in this daguerreotype? I find the situation you describe quite risible.
It appears as though you are from the video plays known as "Our Gang".
Specifically, you resemble one of the Little Rascals known as "Alfalfa Switzer"
I and others find your situation so humorous, and believe, surely, that no one could take what you have posted seriously.
Humble yourself, sir.

>> No.26840396

>>26840192
You mean "Speak American!"

>> No.26840440

>>26833567
A tip should never be forced though
America is weird

>> No.26840775

>>26839477
i mean even if the holos got their salary deducted based on donos, nothing would really have changed other then like cover getting to keep an extra 10 bucks per hour streamed.
>>26839592
in canada we sorta have a rule of paying about the same as we would in taxes (13%) for a tip if were going to tip.
yes this means were paying taxes and then tipping but tips are bonuses.
though apparently tim hortons doesnt even let employees take tips, source being a friend whose told me she wasnt allowed, much to the annoyance of the customer.
>>26839919
anon i live in canada, im well aware of how building in the middle of nowhere isnt helpful and is a pain.
my point is if there were less parking and more public transit, they could build houses where the parking lots are now, allow for them to have housing in society and not needing to expand out as much that you need to build newer facilities as often.
also while some homeless people prefer living homeless, most would rather not and not giving them a choice in the matter doesnt help.

>> No.26840863

>>26836947
What part of it is a joke? We know this happening since 2012.
https://archived.moe/_/search/text/this%20is%20the%20lettuce%20you%20eat%20at%20burger%20king/page/18/

>> No.26840920

>tips
DO AMERICANS REALLY?!
I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO PAY YOUR SALARY.
I AM NOT LEAVING A TIP FOR ....YOU DO WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSEDELY ALTEADY PAID FOR BY YOUR EMPLOYER

>> No.26840938

>>26833567
A tip is voluntary for a good service and shouldn't be a thing anyway because it's stupid. If I'm going to a place and buying food, I'm already fucking paying you by giving you money for the food.

>> No.26840942

>>26839506
The real redpill here is that tips are an excuse service companies use to pay the empolyees shitty, sub-minimum wages and we all just let it slide because "tipping is normal lmao"

>> No.26840952

>>26839477
I mean the majority of money in superchats is not going to the streamer, so if you see it as a tip or even the best way to spend your money supporting them you are retarded.

>> No.26840984

>>26833855
Fast food doesn't have a tip culture, you are thinking of diners/restaurants

>> No.26840997

>>26834444
Amerimutts are so defensive of the retarded shit they are used to, like using Fahrenheit for temperature.

>> No.26841071

>>26834045
100 year old culture that stemmed from a law during the great depression, allows restaurants to pay lower than minimum wage so many workers are directly working for tips as their primary source of income

>> No.26841175

How tipping starting
>"Oh this waitress at my local diner looks like she's having a rough day but is still working hard, I think I'll give her a little extra to help make her day."

How tipping is now
>"What?! You don't want to tip for our exemplary sandwich making here at Subway? Why do you even bother going out to eat if you can't afford to tip! People are starving because of you!"

>> No.26841252
File: 9 KB, 533x125, seething metric janny.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26841252

>>26840997
lol

>> No.26841367

>>26833636
This

>> No.26841387

>>26834787
All hours is SEA(Noirs d'SEA Sans Frontières) hours

>> No.26841503

>>26834444
Based

>> No.26841521

>>26840108
Look, as one of those people at different points in my life. Those people are not going to be fixed by "building them a facility". You need mental health facilities to keep them in check, and those sorts of things are impractical because they will always become prisons and thus unethical when they actually need to be people working overtime to manage the specific issues of each individual. Mental health resources are never actually designed for the type of mentally ill person that is a problem, they are designed for normal people who go through a bit of a rough period. So a homeless shelter is not for the mentally ill person who has issues interacting with other humans, it's for the teenager who got kicked out of their home and needs a place to stay while they reorient themselves. Suicide centers aren't made for people with chronic mental illness but for people who had a rough week at work and need to talk it out.

Think about the sort of mentally ill people who are hoarders or live in their own garbage. Building a home for those people isn't a long-term solution because their illness will ultimately result in destroying that home or possibly making it worse than living outside. So the solution isn't to give them a house, it's to let them live in your facility. But those types of people aren't likely to tolerate being forced to live in an environment they can't control and so they will leave unless you keep them their against their will. And the cost to actually manage each individual with respect is far more than anyone is able to pay.

The type of people who can be helped by the services the government is willing to provide are already being helped by those. But those sorts of services can't help everyone the people with serious problems. You can't give money to a poor person who is not healthy enough to make good financial decisions and expect to make any progress.

Realistically you have to catch these people before they fall through the cracks rather than complaining about them after the fact but with the disgusting ways the government treats kids already, it produces more of those people then it saves.

>> No.26841541
File: 1.78 MB, 396x292, egg.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26841541

>>26833567
Didn't realize you were forced to tip chuubas. Thanks for clearing that up faggot OP

>> No.26841597

>>26841252
unironically this seeing EU faggots seethe over the most mundane shit about America is my favorite past time.

>> No.26841606

>>26833567
you know that everywhere else in the normal world, the waiters have a stable salary?

>> No.26841703

>>26839988
based

>> No.26841788

>>26834004
Was pretty much normal in Italy as well when I was there
12% just added to the total no matter what

>> No.26841896

>>26840997
fahrenheit is easily the superior way to measure temperature over celsius for a variety of reasons. first of all, the degrees themselves are a smaller, and a much more reasonable size. you can feel the difference between each individual degree in fahrenheit, so in celsius you can feel the difference between the same degree. the only way to get around this is to use decimals, which just makes things more complicated than nessisary and also looks worse. there's also that celsiusfags say that fahrenheit is more arbitrary than celsius, which i guess is kind of true but in the least important way possible and in a way that actually makes fahrenheit better. celsius is defined by the melting and boiling point of water, which isn't actually all that practical. half the double digits are unliveable temperatures and you half to use negatives a lot. 0 degrees is quite chilly and 100 degrees is lethal. fahrenheit on the other hand has degrees that are more loosly defined, but more useful. 0 is very cold, and 100 is very hot. the degrees from 0 to 100 roughly make up "normal" temperature. which is much more useful for your average person than the boiling point of water. genuinely the only thing celsius has going for it is easier conversions with metric units. for actually telling temperature it's terrible.

>> No.26842036

>>26841896
nope

>> No.26842186

>>26841597
knowing that people have to live in that bizzaro world parody of a country really is just unsettling, ya know?
Especially since the US gov spends millions on exporting their rotten culture to the rest of the world, not including non-state actors seeking to spread it.

>>26841896
tbf Fahrenheit is easily the most reasonable unit of the imperial system.
The rest is just a random assortment of different systems thrown together without rhyme or reason.
Celsius is still slightly better than Fahrenheit though.

>> No.26842337
File: 39 KB, 602x415, 1632934412738.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26842337

>>26833610
>vtuber
>gay
>uses twitter outside purely professional schedule posting or engaging in kayfabe with others
What is it with this genre of entertainment that attracts the hyperfaggots?

>> No.26842463

>>26840997
Honestly, I have never understood Fahrenheit and I don't care about it and I hate Americans but the metric people are far worse on this debate due to the total dishonesty. One of the most common myths you always hear is that the United States is the one country that doesn't use metric exclusively but this was never true. Countries with history generally did not just throw out their units for metric which is why you hear people in media of other countries talking about all sorts of units you have no reference for. The defense is that those units are officially defined by their relation to the metric standard but Burger units do that as well. And the idea that destroying a place's local culture to replace it with a new one is always retarded and destructive, if you actually see the way pro-metric people feel in countries where they were brainwashed to believe in it as a moral good, they actively support the idea of just killing off all the pre-metric people. I grew up thinking I was in a metric society and never thought anything was weird about the mixing of units for different things and that we weren't really metric with everything but now people younger than me in my own country think I'm some burden to be disposed of and I'm not even 30. Like most areas where you use metric there's no actual advantage to changing it. You just need consistency within a field. It doesn't matter if your home is measured in inches, your weight is measured in stone, your stove in Kelvin and your speedometer in metric. The actual fields where they need to convert between these things aren't full of retards and they've already got the formulas to convert everything just fine. It doesn't affect the layperson. The rant is always, "but they shouldn't have to check their work, people die because they got units wrong". People get things wrong no matter what, you can't let them think they are free to not check their work anymore even if all the units are standardized. As long as the speedometer and the road signs are using the same unit, it doesn't matter what that unit is. As long as the shoe itself and the device to measure your foot are using the same units, it doesn't matter what that is. As long as the blueprint for your house and the materials to build it are using the same units, it doesn't matter what they are. Expecting people to just suddenly be able to think about basic concepts like length, weight, speed, temperature, etc. in different units is the sort of thing only "utopian" dictators believe. Those same people want all languages destroyed and cultures erased.

>> No.26842618

>>26838376
>before you turn into a 3rd world shithole
It already is.

>> No.26842719

>>26841896
anon, if fahrenheit was better why do only 3 countries officially use it?
more countries would use it if it was better or equal to Celsius because it came first so it wouldve been the default for most countries that are now using celsius.
and dont blame every other country pressuring eachother because the US still has the most influence over every country in one way or another.
>>26842463
>And the idea that destroying a place's local culture to replace it with a new one is always retarded and destructive
but anon, dont you know thats part of american history and culture, invading other cultures and replacing it with your own through various means, along side other classics such as doing literally anything other than the solution to a problem and letting kids be shot in school.
according to the usa's politicians if its part of the history and culture of america that means its okay even if its agreed that its morally wrong by most people.

>> No.26842768

I'd rather leave a small tip than have my food be 50% more expensive thank you very much.

>> No.26842783

fuck tipping, if restaurant can't pay for their employee then there business model isn't working

>> No.26842846

>>26834444
im guessing they don't get taxed on tips

>> No.26842918

>>26833567
But she doesn't seem mad about it or anything.

>> No.26843060

>>26842719
>but anon, dont you know thats part of american history and culture
Yes, that is why I hate Americans. That doesn't mean that every person who at first glance seems to oppose them is automatically right if they are just trying to do the same thing I hate Americans for. Not that there is any real fight on this issue between the US and everyone else, that part is all staged which was my point. It's always a fight in each individual culture between people who have been brainwashed to think this is an issue worth dying over and people who haven't.

>> No.26843090

>>26842846
technically they don't have employees just "volunteers" so less tax for sure.

america is weird.

>> No.26843113

>>26839510
but they encourage mental illness in "first world" countries

>> No.26843132

>>26843060
oh i wasnt arguing against your point, i was just being snarky and adding to that particular point.

>> No.26843340

>>26840379
You are a dastard and a rapscallion. I shan't take such humiliation. Your craven daunt has left me inconsolable, you rapacious dewdropper. I'll go on a toot to assuage this foul mood, good day.

>> No.26843432

>>26833567
>tipping at a buffet
only tip if you've been served by wait staff

>> No.26844353

Where the hypocrisy lies anon I can't mad without that

>> No.26844358

>>26835292
>slide thread posted by SEAgroid is absolutely retarded
and water is wet

>> No.26844703

>>26840108
Asylums were taken down because of Geraldo Rivera doing a TV special on them once and picked the worst one and it caused outpour to shut down all of them.

>> No.26844723

>>26836306
They’re gonna regret this when their country gets flooded by niggers and rednecks who don’t know how to wrap it up, but do know how to use social security money. Just an economically stupid decision overall, a lot of red states are gonna get fucked even harder in the coming years.

>> No.26844807

>>26844723
You say this like that isn't already the situation. Their failed state shithole has much bigger problems.

>> No.26845282

>>26833567
she definitely shouldn't be tipping at a buffet, lol

>> No.26845405

>>26842463
>destroying a place's local culture to replace it with a new one is always retarded and destructive
no it's not, superior solutions should replace inferior ones, why should local culture mater?

>> No.26845697

>Hating on Kiara with something flimsy
>Crying about Nijisanji AND Vshojo
This thread is hyper advanced cancer.

>> No.26846993

>>26845405
I mean, you bugs will never understand because your brains are broken. You will always believe utopia is possible no matter how much reality tells you otherwise and so in the end all you create is a world that still sucks ass but now we have to pretend it doesn't as well.

>> No.26847325

>>26833636
fucking this! jewmericans are mentally ill

>> No.26847391

>>26840997
And don't forget their retarded date formatting of month/day/year, of which there is no good reason for.

>> No.26847723

>>26847391
The Gregorian Calendar was a mistake.

>> No.26848118
File: 2.42 MB, 2628x5547, a12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26848118

>>26833567

>> No.26848555

Donating to the streamer is a voluntary donation to otherwise free service.
Tipping is adding extra money to something I already paid for and the retarded tipping culture and staff that can poison your food if you don't tip makes it seem mandatory.

>> No.26848974

>>26833567
i don't tip at buffets, i served myself. fuck i should be getting paid

>> No.26849167

>>26833567
im american and have never known of a hotel that tells you to tip in a bill. I also don't tip at all, and it being seen as bad or something is retarded. I'm not giving out more of my money than I need to
>inb4 poorfag
literally don't care

>> No.26850085

>>26847391
year/month/day or bust. day/month/year is even worse than month/day/year.

>> No.26850299

>>26834444
obsessed lol

>> No.26850516

>>26839173
>>26839455
Hard to keep up with 1 million people moving to the country every year

>> No.26850561

There are only three situations in which you should tip
>if the waiter was exceptionally good
>if you liked the food and are thinking of coming back
>if you the change is good enough for it and you can't bother coming back for it after you put down the money
That's it. Anything else is nonsense.

>> No.26852324

>>26834080
Yeah, capitalism where the boss always get away with this shit

>> No.26852497

>>26833855
Uh, which fast food joint do you go to that asks for tips? That's for restaurants that have a waiter in it like a diner, a bar or maybe a steakhouse.

>> No.26852660

Why is tipping even a thing in Austria? Like, in America workers have few rights so they're paid less than minimum wage and get a living wage through tips, but wages are plenty high in Austria. So why is it still expected to tip like 10%?

>> No.26852858

>>26833567
nothing hypocritical there if tipping is compulsory that means that the place doesn't pay enough for a normal wage which is probably as American as it gets

>> No.26853206
File: 1.89 MB, 1920x3493, 1654360833959.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26853206

>> No.26853406

>>26833567
american tipping system always amaze me, it can bring really nice server or the hostile one, depending the amount your tip

>> No.26855385

>>26833567
They're not gonna fucking stop you at the door if you cross off the tip section. Tipping is a courtesy gesture.

>> No.26855441

>>26833567
"why does the US not pay real wages to their service workers" IS a valid question.

>> No.26855524

>>26852660
>Why is tipping even a thing in Austria?
Because I'm too lazy to carry a bunch of small coins, just round it up to the next decently large denomination for things above 10 euros

>> No.26855545

>>26833567
meds.

>> No.26855744

>>26842337
Ah I remember the fall of Zentreya.
She's having a lot of steam, tons of new followers every months and raining money.
Then she went full retard with being political and face change. Not even her old clippers gave a fuck for her now.

>> No.26855887

>>26842463
It's a measuring system and not culture you moron.
In my country our old measuring systems are so fucked we actually accept the metric system to stop the insanity.
As business owner, I remember when someone offered me a land in a rural area and they use "A spear throw" measurement.
I was like "Wtf, speak metric you moron"

>> No.26856046

>>26842768
Americans don't have ability to give proper excuse.
>50% more expensive
Fun fact: food industry tend to profit 300% to 1000% per plate/drink.
Giving 15% from profit to the waiter/ess will not give that much ding toward their profit. It's just plain greed.

>> No.26856260

>>26850516
You guys have tons of land to locate.
Hell, most people flock to Florida and California.

And Texas

>> No.26856328

>>26856260
? We're talking about housing and decent jobs, not land.

>> No.26856346

>>26853206
Nijisanji casting crew love to pick hypocritical sluts huh

>> No.26856402

>>26833567
Reminder: Americans are the only ones that think tipping for everything is normal. You don't tip in Japan.

>> No.26856456

>>26850516
You need them in case the cities got nuked, are you even taking WW3 seriously?

>> No.26856505

>>26835189
>it'd be based if she was anti-tipping.
It literally wouldn't. This is the most reddit take there is. The based thing to do is not pay the bill but tip the server 100% of the bill in cash.

>> No.26856589

>>26833567
Only amerimutts chimp out when people don't tip

>> No.26856673

>>26833770
Based. I should do that next time I'm on the road. Just stop at a motel for their complimentary continental breakfast without staying there.

>>26834305
kek

>> No.26856755

>>26845282
If someone is serving you drinks and clearing your table while and after you eat then yes, you're supposed to tip. America has buffets where you get your food but there's no drink bar so the servers refill/switch beverages. Those servers usually make like under $4 and hour so tipping is expected. You get the $13 all you can eat buffet because those servers make so little in wages but they do make good money via tipping. When asked, most tipped employees prefer the tipping model over set hourly pay because they know the set hourly wage will be less income on the vast majority of shifts.

>> No.26856786

>>26833567
FUCK tipping culture
t.american who never tips

>> No.26856830

>>26856589
No shit. It's not like bonus money, it's expected. Only niggers and asshole kids don't tip.
>>26856786
Fuck you.

>> No.26856905 [DELETED] 

>>26834353
>>26834045
You tard. Even with the low pay they make more with tips than your average person making minimum wage with no tips. Are people so retarded that they don't know how this works? Are Euros this clueless?

>> No.26856993

>>26856905
you can still tip even if they got paid minimum wage

>> No.26857097

>>26834004
Yes, it's been like that as long back as I can remember.
https://streamable.com/r7xm5q

>> No.26857174

American culture strikes me as odd.
mori has to pay taxes to the US even though she doesn't live in the US.
this is the most ridiculous country I've ever heard of.

>> No.26857265

>>26856830
Even when they give shitty service?

>> No.26857326

>>26857174
Someone need to tell Mori that there's Foreign worker tax exemption. IRS is cruel but not that cruel.

>> No.26857361

>>26857174
Europe doesn't do that? t. Clueless American

>> No.26857455

>>26857361
lolno. They tax workers not citizens. Any work done outside of the country isn’t taxed.

>> No.26857528

>>26834444
>>26834704
>>26835044
Even the tipped employees HAVE TO earn 7.25/hr. The whole "tipped minimum wage is 2.13/hr" just means that even if you earn 100/hr in tips, the employer is still obliged to give you another 2.13 from their pocket.
But if you only earn 1/hr in tips, the employer is obliged to give you 6.25/hr to make you hit the "Basic Combined Cash & Tip Minimum Wage Rate". So the amount they pay a tipped employee out of their own cash scales down from 7.25/hr to 2.13/hr and then stops there, and all tips go to the employee.
Of course shit is different with contractors/delivery services. Also if you're bringing in less than 7.25-2.13=5.12/hr in tips they'll probably just find some excuse to fire you because America.
So if you want to "support workers" or whatever but not get scammed, tip an amount proportional to time divided by service load, not based on total value of services acquired.
Also, unlike supacha, managers are not legally allowed to take a cut (but some places might share tips among the other service workers as well as non-tipped service employees such as cooks and busboys).

>> No.26857795

>>26857361
most places only tax the stuff you own thats in the country like land or storage or what not.
americans pay existence tax as long as theyre american.
>>26857528
okay but whats with americans needing to complicate simple systems just to save a few bucks, when they could just do all that shit and save everyone the hassle and probably allow for the economy to be better with more money floating around for free use

>> No.26857959

>>26833567
Based.
I’m not tipping a mutt unless i get a blowjob or something. Go take it out with your corpo overlords instead of encouraging begging culture.

>> No.26858023

>>26833567
>>26833636
>>26834444
>>26834513
>>26834596
>>26856505
>>26856830
>Be amerimutt
>Take waiter job
>Jew boss pays below minimum wage
>Don't blame Jew boss for kiking you out of money
>Instead shame the customer for not paying you the rest of your check in addition to their food
Shekelburg has his cattle trained well.

>> No.26858358

>>26837184
The value of the tip is more often based on the value of the bill, not on the service provided.
For example, if you got a $2000 bottle of champagne, you're obligated to tip at least 15% of that even if the waiter just brought the bottle to your table.
If you ordered a $20 bottle, and the waiter took the time to pour it for you and asked if you needed anything else would only get a small tip. Even if you're a nice guy and want to make a point of giving him a great tip, you would not give him more than $20.

>> No.26858418

>>26837213
NTA but I remember that movie. They only fucked with the food if the customer was a huge asshole to the waiter or dined in near closing so that the workers had to stay in longer than usual.

>> No.26858460

>>26833567
You're getting scammed, Chicken.

>> No.26858499

>>26833636
/thread

>> No.26858658
File: 54 KB, 640x480, 595e664ad084cc28008b7b7c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
26858658

>Mailman brings me my 20kg box of pussy and ass I ordered flown from japan
>Don't tip

>Guy drives a few blocks to hand me my mcdonalds hamburger
>Tip

Why?

>> No.26859088

>>26855887
Of course a rootless cosmopolitan like you, exploiting the locals for your own benefit, would think this. They may be retarded but you are evil.

>> No.26859361

>>26835044
Do you WANT to live in a world where every restaurant you go to exclusively hires children?

>> No.26859598

>>26859361
Uooooooooh, a restaurant of loli vtubers!

>> No.26859605

>>26842463
>equates measuring system is about culture
Kek, retarded mutt

>> No.26859752

>>26859361
>restaurant that exclusively hires children
I would love it, but sadly world isn't that based and will trun into a shithole ToT

>> No.26860266

>>26839592
You got it right. I have to tip the pizza delivery driver. But I'm not expected to tip the UPS driver carrying my 60" tv. It's all completely arbitrary.

>> No.26860509

>>26860266
>You got it right. I have to tip the pizza delivery driver
That’s so retarded.
Where I live it used to be a fee for food delivery (just like any shipping fee, you know the price in advance and you pay the exact amount, it’s not a tip, the delivery guy is just paid a normal salary)
But they even forbid that. Now it’s included in the price and you get a "reduction" if you pick up the food yourself.

>> No.26860592

>>26856505
>le corporations are evil
>give money to the little man

Yeah and then the company goes out of business and the employee is now unemployed with nothing to his name except money you tipped him. Smart move sherlock.

>> No.26860659

>>26860509
Funny thing is we gotta pay the delivery fee AND we have to tip. Apparently the delivery fee doesn't pay the driver.

>> No.26861764

>>26833567
In Europe they actually pay their servers decent wages so tipping is unnecessary. In America it's a way to pay servers less (and then managers steal from the tip jar anyway)

>> No.26862784

>>26834596
This. She wasn't even complaining about tip culture (she should be because the US is a third world country) She's genuinely uncertain what you do and don't have to tip for in the US, and it's a pretty stereotypical American thing to expect everyone to know how they do everything.

>> No.26863996

>>26833567
Maybe don't judge an Austrian for how your American system works. In many countries waiters are paid enough to make a living as opposed to the US where they get paid pennies and desperately need tips to make ends meet.

>> No.26864924

American culture is just stupid
>use the more inefficient imperial system and Fahrenheit
>tip are obligatory
>gun ownership to defend from other gun owners

>> No.26866284

>>26834458
KEK

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action