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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711286
Then the management is fucking retarded. Between not talking about it on stream or graduating, I doubt anyone would pick graduating

[Anonymous No.]

I had a dream Kiara's 3D birthday only got 23k wtf

[Anonymous No.]

just be yourself bro

[Anonymous No.]

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *


>44,230: Salome (Nijisanji)
>37,807: Miko (Hololive)
>30,935: Toya (Nijisanji)
>29,291: VSPO (VSPO)
>24,075: Choco (Hololive)
>20,712: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>19,735: Shion (Hololive)
>18,658: Hal (Neo Porte)
>15,499: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>14,840: Lize (Nijisanji)
>14,212: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,495: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,558: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,732: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,573: Reid (Neo Porte)
>10,438: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,339: Baelz (Hololive)

[Anonymous No.]

Meds
NOW

[Anonymous No.]

>The last thread got archived without deleting the porn posted 1 hour ago
Jannies are declining

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711387
Accurate

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711402
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Salome (Nijisanji) - 71,690 - English study
11) Salome (Nijisanji) - 78,179 - Resident Evil 7
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 88,559 - Resident Evil 7
13) Chloe (Hololive) - 137,594 - 3D debut
14) Salome (Nijisanji) - 99,770 - Resident Evil 7
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,188 - Rust
16) Koyori (Hololive) - 105,030 - 3D debut
17) Salome (Nijisanji) - 80,943 - Disaster Report 2
18) Debi (Nijisanji) - 54,133 - Response battle tournament
19) Flare (Hololive) - 86,846 - 3D birthday live
20) Gura (Hololive) - 52,614 - Unarchived karaoke w/Amelia
21) Lui (Hololive) - 100,833 - 3D debut
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 40,612 - Super Smash Bros.
23) Salome (Nijisanji) - 44,230 - Disaster Report 2

>PER COMPANY
13x: Nijisanji
10x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
11x: Salome
1x: Chloe, Debi, Flare, Gura, Haachama, Iroha, Koyori, Kuzuha, Lui, Mio, Subaru, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
113x: Hololive
52x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
15x: Salome
12x: Kuzuha, Miko
8x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

[Anonymous No.]

Verse Gold?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711387
25k
Take it or leave it

[Anonymous No.]

>>26710761
I think what that anon is trying to say is...
> Mori knows that there's a high likelyhood of Japan randomly closing the borders again for whatever reason
> She plans to stay in US until that happens under the pretext of AX, offcollab etc.

When the borders inevitably close, she can use that excuse to be a lot more lazy. Neither Cover nor her Label can "force" her to go to professional places to do recordings and stuff (covid hurr durr etc.) so she will be stuck at home with somewhat mediocre recording equipment which her Label might not accept.

With that she'll have a lot more time to dedicate to her roommate work.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>26711444
>13x: Nijisanji
>10x: Hololive
Imagine if Hololive wins the month despite this

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711430
They had a lot of work to do yesterday with the double Nijibait in the catalog. They are taking an early weekend.

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>>26711454
not until they merge Verse and Prism into one

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>>26711155
Like I said, Anycolor were trying to show that her income stream and work was "damaged" by the stalkers and get laws passed against them.

Once she left, they used the same tactic with poor Roa, but she never had stalkers, so it became pretty obvious that they were simply targeting people who spoke badly of them.

Maybe Riku has an ego and wants to be known as the guy who permanently btfo V-antis or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711497
Yeah, imagine a musician signed to Universal trying to record music in the US, can you imagine something more impossible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711338
Bum bum cha.

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>>26711387
Her party outfit reveal is around 48k, so maybe somewhere around this number i guess, or I'm too optimistic?

[Anonymous No.]

So what did we learn from the previous thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711387
>>26711709
In b4 she shills the stream everywhere, asks for JP prime time free slot and peaks higher than Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711871
and that'd be a good thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711430
schizo anti's spam was deleted but jannies decided to fap to desuwa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711835
I learned that reading this thread is a waste of time and I'd like to not come here again, but I can't stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711929

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>>26711640
nta but is mori signed under umj or umg since I remember Hikaru Utada having problems since due to universal music japanese corporate bullshitry but this was way back in 06-07 that prevented her from recording using their us counterparts studio I admit that they might have changed things from back then but with how stubborn japanese corpos are with change i wonder if it would be a potential problem

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>>26712041
Unlike 3D studios, recording studios are a dime a dozen SPECIALLY if she's in California

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>>26711835
The verse is enemy along with bird, school and hotdog

[Anonymous No.]

This guy's channel was banned on the 8th of juned
It's still banned
Say something nice to him

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712119
Why would you stream Gore on your corpo channel you dumb fuck.
Oh i guess the shovel looks nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712119
Shouldnt have streamed moisac gore considering that susan wants vtubers gone since its mogging her pet projects

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711366
Anycolor needed to prove to the courts that the stalking thing was financially and emotionally hurting Lulu so they would take the case seriously.
Lulu didn't give a shit, she just wanted to stream so she quit.

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>>26712076
Well, she's in Dallas for sure, but no idea what will be her new location.

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>>26712181
She'll be in Calli for Anime Expo, she can go there a week early and rent one of the thousands professional grade music studios in LA

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711387
Yep weird dream anon, her performance in Holofest proves that she is the best dancer in Hololive, realistically 70k

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711835
That it was good i took a 2 hour walk instead of reading it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712076
>cali
is that stupid covid law still being inacted there? the one where cant be forced to work if there are active covid cases no matter how small?

[Anonymous No.]

finana gold this month, i can feel it

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712333
fuck off

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>her performance in Holofest proves that she is the best dancer in Hololive
Bold statement you got there anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712119
>draw it like a girl
>call it a guy
but why he looks like he could have been a decent tomboy character

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>>26712463
he's what we call a shota, anon

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>>26712279
>Calli
the roomate will be in the Anime Expo with Gikkuk and Trashtaste. Thats why she will stay in US for 2 week and then return to JP for Calli Concert.

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>>26712483
that looks more like a reverse trap than a shota

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* FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY *

- 23-Jun
> 15,928 : Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
> 14,923 : Jururu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 8,859 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 7,646 : Shylily (EN Indie)
> 6,492 : Zentreya (EN VShojo)
> 6,176 : Kaga Sumire (JP VSPO)
> 5,299 : ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)

Another skinny day, only 3 entries between 3 and 4k even.
1. Lilpa streamed again after 5 days just catching up on Isegye clips and won.
2. Ruru's the biggest loser, had a good 8k watching, got the raid/funnel when Lilpa ended and still didn't beat her
3. Sumire played Valorant, the age of Rust is slowly fading
4. Kson also streamed a MC collab but only got a consistent 3.4k
6k difference between 2nd and 3rd place is pretty big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26707314
>"What's the one problem right now that's not going to be around 2024? "
>"Nijiniggers and homobeggars."
>"'cause we're just gonna kill 'em."

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712489
thats what anon said she'll be in cali for the expo

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712548
>JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 15,498 - Vocaloid WC React
2) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,571 - VR Chat - tween model showcase
3) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 14,343 - Zatsu, React
4) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 16,556 - Zatsu, React
5) Kris Yim (Board of Trustees) - 19,915 - Black Mesa (Twitch main page)
6) Jingburger (Isegye Idol) - 15,804 - Voting in anime OST championship
7) Shoto (Indie) - 12,513 - Playing Unpacking
8) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 22,248 - Zatsu, React + The Spike
9) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,832 - Poolside VR Chat
10) Nimu (Indie) - 21,050 - Among Us, Zatsu (7,501 before Raid)
11) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 20,477 - Zatsu, React
12) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 14,668 - Butter cover MV in VRChat
13) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 20,357 - Zatsu - model expressions update
14) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 15,177 - 20 Minutes Till Dawn + Zatsu, Naver catchup
15) Jururu (Isegye Idol) - 16,361 - Artery Gear: Fusion + Watching Waktaverse MVs
16) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 13,021 - Continued Naver and clips catchup
17) Shoto (Indie) - 15,555 - Valorant with Vox
18) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 15,717 - Zatsu after group song recording
19) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 18,622 - Zatsu after group song recording
20) Jingburger (Isegye Idol) - 12,455 - Expressions update + Valorant + Poopy Parker
21) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 11,037 - Zatsu, React + Chivalry 2
22) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 14,031 - Zatsu, VR Chat React
23) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 15,928 - Return, React - Naver and clips catchup

>PER COMPANY
19x: Isegye Idol
3x: Indie
1x: Board of Trustees

>PER STREAMER
7x: Ine
4x: Lilpa
3x: VIichan
2x: Gosegu, Jingburger, Shoto
1x: Jururu, Kris Yim, Nimu

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712548
>Kson also streamed a MC collab but only got a consistent 3.4k
100k 3D debut this month though, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712615
twitch /=/ YT audience
so 25-35k

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712615
wonder if kanata will stealth shill it or if any of the holo talents will be able to

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>>26712119
Why don't we know anything about their mama?

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>>26712601
Then why people are doomposting about Calli graduating again?? becuase she 's moving for 2 weeks??? can they just graduate and kill themselves already.

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>>26711569
Who do you think would benefit more?
>VERSEn joining Prism Project
>Prism Project joining VERSEn

And what about Project Vee?

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Honestly with Laplus recent scandals and lost of popularity I'm wondering if she can even get 120k

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712790
the scandals gave her more popularity, not less

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>>26712119
Mashiro looks perfectly foldable.

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>>26712818
True, her clips about the roommate stuff gt lots eyeballs over her

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>>26712489
Somehow I wish that means we will have Gura personally be in Japan for the concert though that’s unlikely

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>>26712728
>>26711497

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>>26712858
Gura won't be able to enter Japan since work visas are not applicable to Cover talents and the only alternative to that is to go on an on-rails trip to tour Japan, which is going to make her studio time effectively zero.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711835
Qrd?

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>>26712744
Maru not playing zelda since its a debuff game for her and instead focus on block autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712952
nijiniggers are pure cancer

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>>26712716
>same artist
>ones channel is terminated and another graduated

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>>26711402

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712834
kek
https://youtu.be/Hp131qWtr0I?t=560

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>>26712864
>https://www.japan-guide.com/news/alerts.html
>The outbreak of the coronavirus is having a big impact on tourism in Japan, and the country's borders remain closed to foreign individual travelers.
so it isn't closed at the end. Doomposting always talk shit about craps and /vt/ hate Mori more than Nyanners, they shoudl kill themselves already

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>>26712968
Less quick

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>>26713178
Previous: >>26700839

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>>26713126
>and the country's borders remain closed to foreign individual travelers
so she's staying longer in the states then? wouldnt that make the she's gonna stay in the us and be more lazy and instead focus on her roommate rrat even more plausible?

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>>26713230
rrats as always talk shit while eat shit in their miserable patehtic lives

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713254
you said japan is closed so mori will have to stay in the us and she's gonna use that opportunity to boost her roommates career

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1539865845517750274

130k likes

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713299
Nah she's gonna stream but she's more likely to show up more in vshojo and trashtalk collabs in order to hang out with them more

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713336
>https://twitter.com/Puyiu6Puyiu/status/1539886293689270273
lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713299
>boost her roommates career
just a concert on aniexpo with gikku and the others woahhhhh, what a boost.
doomposting is doomposting, shits like you won't change anything about her and you will always trying to make rrats to make your feeling better instead killing yourself from yourmiserable lives.

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We're really going to get 3 Mori streams in a row before any other HoloEN streams aren't we?

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>>26713336
>https://twitter.com/shxtou
Huh
So Shoto is actually the 4th most popular NijiEN on Twitter
After Vox, Mysta and Ike, but ahead of Shu and Luka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713436
so whats she doing after?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713450
How did he do it? How did he get Luxiem level success as an indie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713336
they didn't know that their song sucks ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713336
>>26713409
https://twitter.com/wuyuton67133203/status/1539898042525945856
Who is this guy even? Is the other one the black company guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713525
Sex with me

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713527
Doesn't matter, this will break Gura's record anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713526
He's a Luxiem leech who also heavily panders to fujos like them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713589
That's the sad part

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713525
collab with ironmouse if im not mistaken and knowing calli she's gonna try and leech of some other youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713527
I don't think their fangirls will care, their first song is by far the worst debut song and girls still ate it up. Will probably pass Diamond City Lights in a couple weeks

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>>26713589
I'm genuinely impressed how such bad music can still do so well. I mean I know people like to shit on BTS, 1D, the Biebs, whatever, but the fact is all their music was catchy and they could sing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713589
so you need the offical NijiEN channel with 5 manwhores to fight against 1 little shark saying hello on twitter in her own channel. This is sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713651
>I'm genuinely impressed how such bad music can still do so well.
You forgetting about stuff like friday and the island boys

[Anonymous No.]

>26713589
>group song
>totally different market (the zhangs)
i'm not seeing the connection here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713609
Off-line with Ironmouse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713696
Friday was genuinely catchy, same with Island Boys, same with Mia Khalifa

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>>26713589

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>>26713651
You dont need to have good music to be succesfull all you need is a loyal fanbase that will eat any shit up and boost your popularity and once you popular enough the normies will buy any shit you produce
Good examples are Kanye, Eminem, hannah montana, slpiknot and biggie smalls

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[Anonymous No.]

>>26713762
catchy is purely subjective same as what you consider good music is

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>>26713906

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>>26713906
what happened with enna?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713920
If it wasn't catchy it wouldn't have gotten popular to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713865
You could have just "I'm racist" and saved us some time

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713906
Top 10
5 luxiem members
2 ID
2 council
1 myth

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713966
same with luxiem song

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714017
>Top 10
>Hours watched
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713991
where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713991
baffling post'
how is that racist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713906
>Fauna above 10k median peak CCV
Go Fauna Go!

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713962
On break she'll be back tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714017
>Hours watched
>Top 10
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713962
3 week vacation around the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712728
>Calli
don’t >we usually call her mori around here

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714017
..

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714176
>>26714158
>>26714056
Nijinnigers need something to feel important, pls understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714056
>>26714158
>>26714176
what happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714017
>Hololive is not declining they said
Only proves what that anon was saying in the last thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714158
>>26714056
What's wrong with it? I don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714228
You made hololive look bad which is a huge sin in this thread
Your talents would honestly be more appreciated in other threads especially niji ones

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>>26714261
Anon look at this post >>26713906 that doesn't use a meme stat like average watch time,
and then say that again without crying.

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>>26714261
>Hours watched
this is pathetic. You are acting like Snoys when they won a Month on dollars only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714299
Average watch time is an important metric since it shows people are checking you out because of interest and not due to fomo

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714261
>Meme that Myth and Coucil barely stream for months
>Their hour watched metric is meh
Oh wow, who would have possibly guessed?
Must be a sudden recline eh anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714284
You can get in the top 5 if you stream 8 hours every day to like 1500 people
It is NOT a good way to measure popularity or basically anything other than maybe commitment to streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714333
No that would be VOD views. Watchtime just show who streams a shit ton which is why Kaela is in the top 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714341
If they don't have the motivation to stream anymore that is some kind of recline, yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714341
Now say it without crying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26713527
I recommend you look at the accounts of the fangirls, they love it

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714341
They do have any motivation so it is a recline

[Anonymous No.]

yesterday was busy, today was slow.

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>>26713906
Lofi.... 12 streams....

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714298
To be fair, many people here don't like hours watched because stream spammers like Koyori will be among top 5 or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714397
oh those people who asked Vox to never sing again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714228
it's a number made by multiplying 2 metrics together, heavily favouring people that do nothing but stream. it's basically just a slightly more ordered hours streamed

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714419
>>26714395
Did people not understand sarcasm?
>They barely stream all year
>anon says it's a sudden recline as if these are new values we're seeing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714453
If your streamers are not streaming then that is a huge red flag and is honestly a more important metric since it shows talent fatigue

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714483
Anon they barely understand english.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714512
or that they have other work to do outside of streaming

[Anonymous No.]

/#/ has drained away any remaining goodwill that I had towards nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714532
Or it shows they do stuff behind the scenes and are financially stable enough not to feel pressured to always stream like some of their competitors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714544
So does every streamer else in the other company but you dont see them slacking
Face it covers management needs restructuring

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714544
>not doing the job they were hired to do
>somehow a good thing
I really cant understand how holofans come up with this mental gymnastics

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714579
like who? i don't know of any other company that balences between on and off stream stuff to the extent of hololive

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>>26714458
anon, i was just now looking at actual luxim fans on twitter and they are calling this a banger song. otehrs are even telling them to not hear it outside of official sources to benefit luxiem. you can bet this song will break records because they have kpop mentality

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714579
Oboretai is that you?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714547

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>>26714429
Just look how much she collabed with homos, not to mention all the debuff games

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714547
Its not real fans though its holo fans larping as one nijifans would never do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714512
That's why when presenting ranking by avg hours watched or peak CCV median, usually, a vtuber with less than X hours or X number of streams will be excluded (or at least, that's the better way of presenting ranking, rather than include all).

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714636
Nijisanji for one

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>>26714547
and # drained any goodwill i had with this thread besides looking at numbers because its more apparent every day how much its anti nijisanji thread

[Anonymous No.]

just when you think that retard has left he starts flooding the thread with garbage again

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>>26714729
Of course its an anti nijisanji thread they were mad at the poor tally anon since he showed hololive in a bad light. Not even nijisanji threads stoop to the level of shitting on your contributors just beecause it makes them look bad. Nijifans actually accept criticism

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714759
I miss the comfy EU hours after the tally that we used to have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714720
Nice joke you got there
Tell me how is this still an issue >>26712119
Or how incompetent you are as a company just by looking at Ranunculus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714696
Nijicope

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714784
Maybe you should stop making false accusations like bots and fake discord screenshots then

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714797
>Ranunculus
Isn't that a pokemon

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714797
Talents fault for streaming gore even though the management warned them to but since nijsanji actually follows rules and protocols they decided to let youtube handle it

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714811
which discord screenshots?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714759
I mean holofans started it you cant blame them for trying to defend their company from lies coming out of this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714797
NTA but I can respond you easily.
Mashiro still isn't out because his ban as a channel isn't an error like the others, so of course it will take more time than usual because they need to negotiate with yotuube.
Ranunculus is one of the most retarded arguments of this thread because its overall a successful group, with 2 out of 3 already over 100k subs and 2 out of 3 having 2k-1.5k as median. Muyu is the one lagging behind but not by much. For the purposes of this thread hey arent superstars, but they aren't doing bad either.
I wish it was a less disingenuous thread to recognize things but unfortunately its not the case.

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>>26714882
Niji thriving

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714882
He's talking about all of the discord leaks that basically proved that the venn diagram for a Nijitalent and a Nijinigger is infinitely close to being a full circle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714547
I actually like Salome a lot.

Once she does something else, i'll even watch her again.

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>>26714851
And isn't their responsibility as a company to manage these talents in order to prevent this issues from happening and to resolve said issues in part of the talent? They're just going to throw him under the rug just like what they did to nippleboy? Nice company you got there bud.

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>>26714928
>I wish it was a less disingenuous thread to recognize things but unfortunately its not the case.
Its hard with their tribalist mentality I honestly wish they were more open to others like nijifans

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[Anonymous No.]

>>26714811
>fake discord screenshots
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712119
Is he at least streaming on twitch or mildom while his yt is nuked or is he just gone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26708588
Roa thing happened much before Lulu and her lawyer is actually winning the cases to the point where it might change how digital harassement works in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715010
nice kaela is more popular than the whole of nijien and holoen

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715010
What's up with Ina?

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>>26714928
I don't know if it's apparent, but people just bring up Ranunculous because it was the latest in Nijisanji JP's series of "Just ok" waves, which lasted 2 years between MeiFu and Salome.
This while HoloJP, EN and even NijiEN managed to produce superstars, or at least 10k+ chuubas pretty frequently.

[Anonymous No.]

Im honestly glad there are more nijifans here now that are trying to correct the false narratives that this thread tries to produce

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715079
she's on a break

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715099
A break from what? She plays video games every day

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714928
You said it yourself, anon.
>they aren't superstars
For the purposes of this thread, they're worthless. Unless something unusual is happening, bringing anyone that's not at least half-way to approaching one of the tallies, bringing people up in here is going to make posters shit on them (especially during horse race hours). I should know since I am one of the people people that actually discusses midgets and 2views in this thread.

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>>26715010
Really shows how hardworking the nijien girls are

[Anonymous No.]

Numbers!

Has Nene finally broken the bad streak?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715128
work smarter not harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715108
Hololive management is incompetent when it comes managing their talent thats why you see a lot of them slack off especially on the EN side compared to other companies

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715108
Her day job

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>>26715147
Oh nice to see. Bit sad about Polka but oh well.
Isn't Nene also one of the first big tubers to cover that song?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715158
more streaming hours is smarter since it will only make you incline while less hours mean less exposure which will lead to decline

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715128
Why yes, it's like they're proper streamers or something, used to frequent and long streams.

While in EN you have Kiara.... and Callie when she isn't busy with singing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715108
a break from streaming

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>>26715236
Hololive management really dropped the ball on picking their talents but its expected since its the same on the jp side

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715223
Yeah anon, tell that to the thousands of 1views streaming 12h a day to know what they think about that

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715204
yes.
"Includes paid promotion"

I guess it being a promo song had a lot of restrictions for corpos that we didn't know about.

Unless you count the Project Sekai version, 4.3 million views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=babaG-xuBQM

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>>26715147
Im glad nene is getting good numbers due to the box even though she's a mediocre singer but still its numbers and its good

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715338
She should do more dance MVs
Play to her strenghts

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715379
Agree

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>>26715204
I think Nissin might own the song or something. They've paid Nene to cover it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715280
>Nijisanji management really dropped the ball on picking their talents but its expected since its the same on the jp side

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715421
>>26715336
Cool, nice to see that Nissin and Cover still got a good relationship these days, though not suprising given the succes of the first campaign.

[Anonymous No.]

/#/ is declining.

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>>26715436
Niji talents are actually streaming and even take advantage of offcollabs while Holo talents are just doing nothing while the other one is more interested in her roommates career than her vtuber one

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>>26715490
Unironically agree anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715490
https://youtu.be/uB1D9wWxd2w

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715516
For the love of god, please use some punctuation you fucking ESL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715204
>Bit sad about Polka but oh well.
I dont know why she used such a deep voice
Pretty sad that she was once one of the great ones who changed the vtuber landscape but is now reduced to this

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715579
wait what happened to polka

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715490
>/#/ is declining because we cant spew our bullshit against nijisanji anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715614
Nijisanji is a black company

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>>26715516

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>>26715579
the voice didn't work for me, but it was more how monotone the whole thing sounded.

On the other hand, her Animal, Vampire, etc covers have that good spice.

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>>26715612
nta but before she was polka she used to be a great vtuber who did things the pushed the boundaries of being a vtuber but ever since she joined hollow it feels like she got a little restricted in doing stuff

[Anonymous No.]

the ban is over? haven’t seen baits this bad for a while now

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715703
Stopping numbers from spewing bullshit is not bait anon especially when said bs are spreading to different sites

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715684
so nothing happened just shitposting, gotcha

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715726
the baits are the bullshit, so that makes no sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715726
What is with this delusions of persecution, those talents brought it upon themselves.
And now we have you historical revisionist saying the discord leaks were edited, cry my a river nijitranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715785
pretty sure making those fake bot graphs and shouting bots bots bots are the bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715822
It was edited and every real nijifan knows it but since it gets posted everywhere without a disclaimer that its edited a lot of people think its real

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715890
It's not our fault that we actually managed to prove how bots work and can for the most part figure who is obviously using bots. Be glad that it is us and not YouTube that's pointing it out.

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck is Mori able to stream as much as she does? Already almost 6 hours streamed in the past 12 hours and she's got another stream at noon JST. You wouldn't think she had a 3D live concert and her major record debut album next month with how much she streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715939
link the unedited version, then you can prove they were faked

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716002
YEAH BOI, THAT'S YOUR 5% MORI FOR YOU

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, thread's pretty dead so here's a random Isegye trivia i found.

Isegye Idol is an actual vtuber group, but part of the bigger WAKTAVERSE group along other projects and streamers, which has its roots in the VRChat community.
One of the other WAK members is a character called Mitsune Haku - actually vocaloid synth Vsinger.

And for the numbers part, here's how WAK makes content:
Dreamin' Chuchu synth and MMD duet between Mitsune and the founder's vocaloid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZtskWzmpXs
>982k views
Isedol and the founder reacting to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqtMSSf31P0
>773k views

[Anonymous No.]

Who's currently the most cursed chuuba in terms of having all the tools to become a big star but being trapped in a string of totally arbitrary setbacks like injuries, illnesses, house being destroyed in an earthquake, corpo going bankrupt etc.?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26715961
You proved nothing since there is no hard evidence just assumptions without any basis and whos only goal is to put nijisanji in a bad light which was ok then but now it isnt because vtubers jobs and livelihood might get affected by the lies

[Anonymous No.]

All this Nijifag larping. Sugoi.

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>>26715939
The mental gymnastics is outstanding, the selective memory to filter out certain events to fit to your narrative is mind boggling. I applaud your delusions nijitranny.
As another anon has suggested, why not post the unedited version so we can scrutinize it again.

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>>26716091
I give it 70/30 odds on it being an actual pajeet intern (Noor, probably).

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716091
There is one person that have been posting on cooldown for hours. It is pretty impressive, even more so with all the BS they are spouting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716091
Its holofans trying to paint us nijifans in a bad light

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716091
>26716131
Oh look there he is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714368
Hours watched has always been an important metric here, newfag. And the fact it takes into account stream time is a feature, it means vtubers get penalized for laziness and rewarded for consistency.

For example Ayame is almost always near the top on Median CCV but mid tier on hours watched because she only streams 5 times a month max.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716076
Polka

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>>26714547
Not just /#/ I hate how Enna, Pomu and Selen posters keep shitting the global.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716159
>laziness

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>>26716159
But it shows how lazy holo talents are and shows how management dropped the ball on hiring them so its bad and wrong for /#/

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>>26716176

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>>26716273
you sure told roboco, reine, irys, mel, mumei, aqua, anya, risu, nene, ina and iofi. better encourage them to not be so lazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716159
>important metric
>here
So, irrelevant.
>vtubers get penalized for laziness and rewarded for consistency
This makes no sense. I would say an 8 hour "reacting to youtube" stream is lazy
At the same time, if someone made high quality streams only once a week, and they commissioned assets and managed to make it special every time I would consider that the opposite of laziness.

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>>26716304
If they streamed more they'd be higher on the list, yes. Note Aki is much higher than Roboco despite having 2k less average CCV

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>>26716159
It never is. It’s the most meme metric in existence.

Laplus and Suisei were in the 30’s last month or the month before that. Does that mean they’re middle of the pack-low tier holos? Of course not. Neither is Marine, neither is Gura (of the past), neither is anyone who appears on it. NO ONE in this fucking thread considers Flare and Watame the top of the top. The only thing it shows is that X holo streams a lot. That should be the fucking stat and that’s it: who streams the most hours. Trying to make a number out of it is just retarded and ranking them gets even more retarded

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>>26716398
>NO ONE in this fucking thread considers Flare the top of the top
tally anon pls your bias and beard is showing

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716336
>So, irrelevant.
Stream hatchet uses it and so does HoloData. It's not irrelevant. Where do you newfags pop out from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716398
It's OK to use multiple metrics to assess a vtuber's performance. They're all valuable in some way

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716372
might as well sort by hours streamed then and as you can see kaela is infact the most popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716336
I like how it's assumed that these talents are "lazy" without knowing what other work they do besides when they stream as if they know their whole schedules and the effort that they put in other works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716449
Its not newfags its the holo defense force panicking because they are getting called out for disingenuous numbers

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>>26716398
>That should be the fucking stat and that’s it: who streams the most hours.
It's not though. Higher CCV is extremely advantageous. Pekora DOUBLED Mikos watch time in 2021 despite them both having similar stream hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716449
They fake the data though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716449
Ah yes, the one that "streams" herself sleeping is on top. You're REALLY not making a good case for this with that picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716449
Okay then tell me what did Amouranth stream over and over again to gain those hours watched.

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>>26714544
literally irrelevant to this discussion

[Anonymous No.]

Reimu and now Finana… anything happening to NijiEN girls to make them relapse into 3 views?
It truly looks like there is a general recline for them except maybe Selen and Pomu

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716449
Also giken access

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>>26716534
Since when does /#/ care about how streamers get their numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26711338
Thought this was Watame in a bunny suit. I'm disappointed that its not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716590
Since always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716590
We dont but we care when hololive "dominance" is threatened in the not holo circlejerk thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716398
Absolute retard. Off yourself right this instant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716573
>if your employees aren't streaming but instead doing other company work that is also in their contracts it is a red flag
ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716582
I remember this site being used throughout 2021. Why are there suddenly people saying that we shouldn't care about watch hours when it's been a standard metric to track streamers since forever

[Anonymous No.]

this dude will do anything to make nijien looks good. you are 3 months late to the party dude... are you getting paid for this ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26712602
Not a single Vshojo gold? Ugh Vshojokeks want to explain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716577
>part 4
>yakuza

no idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716637
I forgot how dominant Pekora was in 2021. That's a complete smashing, Miko didn't even come close. Will be a different story this year of course after Pekos break and Miko getting mid to high 20k for every single stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716648
I mean if your STREAMERS are doing anything else but STREAMING then it is a huge red flag since it shows mismanagement, laziness or talent fatigue

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716577
No that is just unironically what Finana's yakuza streams usually gets. It jumps up a bit when she gets to big moments but they have always been her lowest watched streams.
Her last two got raided and that is why they had the "massive" 1.8k instead of 1k

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>>26716657
Even twitch kiddies stopped paying that much attention to it since the sleep stream meta became popular.
You can blame Ludwig's month long stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716577
Ya草 is a debuff for ENfags and a buff for JPs.

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>>26716696
Doesn't almost all of vshojo get shit for numbers?

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>>26716081
Yeah, yeah. We've all heard it all before: "The Elite Strike Force of /hlg/ is out to kill the oh-so-venerable and reputable Nijisanji and make Riku go back home crying to his mommy".

If it walks like a duck... it's not a horse.

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>26716723
so, niji is going to kill all of their units and stop hosting nijifes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716737
Nah, it's a debuff for everybody except Subaru

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716723
ok? but they aren't just streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716717
Nah even with a month less in the stats Pekora will still beat Miko effortlessly. Maybe with only 4 or 5M ahead but that'd still be a wonderful achievement coming from her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26714544
Koyori practiced for her 3D live, recorded an original song and a cover, signed merch and still streamed over 100 hours last month

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716790
Koyori's getting decent numbers too
i'm sure it's a decent game but there's just something about it that makes me not want to watch it, ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716790
And Pekora. And Mito. And other JPs.

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>>26716590
When it comes to hololive it is always "Numbers are Numbers sweetie, we only care about Numbers here"
When it comes to literally every other streamer this thread turns into massive moralfags and talks about the ethics of streaming and the "correct" ways to get Numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716830
She'll burn out
The Japanese are notoriously frail

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716775
>>26716794
see
>>26716803
Holo has some talent that actually works hard but a lot of them have either been lazy or complacent due to the box

[Anonymous No.]

>26716847
>When it comes to literally every other streamer this thread turns into massive moralfags and talks about the ethics of streaming and the "correct" ways to get Numbers
nijiniggers should start acting ethically then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716723
When your "streamers" have live concerts, music making, sponsor meetings, etc.. you can't expect them to stream all day.
>But koyori / watame
Yes, those two, no one else. It's not the norm and you can't make it the norm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716866
Not the dreaded cough of death...

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716891
>It's not the norm and you can't make it the norm.
seems more like a management problem to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716790
Lize is getting 14-18k per stream for Kiwami and 0, better than her Genshin streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716869
so every streamer that streams less than koyori is lazy or complacent, you do release that includes a lot of people outside of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716847
They have to make holo look good hell i would not be surprised if hololive is the one with interns in this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716636
>>26716847
nijinipples and their persecution complex
truly a sad sight

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716956
realise*

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716934
But that's not "laziness" is it?
Which was the entire argument for using watch hours as a metric.
Them having responsibilities they shouldn't have due to bad management or whatever does not make them lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716891
Mori has way more music making and meetings and live concert planning than anybody else in HoloEN right now, and she's literally about to have 3 consecutive streams in a row where nobody else in HoloEN has streamed, despite 4 of them being together in person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717000
prove >>26716847 wrong though? since every stream outside holo gets called bots or doesnt count because of z or they won but its not the right way

[Anonymous No.]

can you guys stop using koyo for baits please, it's really annoying getting often posts about her derailed because numberfags who don't watch her can't stop using her to bash other chuubas despite the fact that she's clearly an outlier
you're the numbers thread, just get the average of hours streamed and bash the people below it or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716986
NIJICOEP LIST
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717083
based. keep up the good work, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717025
them not streaming is lazines but its ultimately managements fault for not incentivizing them to stream more

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717069
>since every stream outside holo gets called bots or doesnt count because of z or they won but its not the right way
complete lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717083
Keep up the good job anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>26717121
literal sweatshop mentality. i'm on to you, mr xiao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717061
She also has a lot of long breaks, specifically due to all of those external responsabilities
"Mori hasn't streamed in 8 days she's lazy"

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717094

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>>26717069
NijiEN numbers are getting counted and recorded in the tally despite all the Zs and bot allegations. Cry more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717135
>muh bots muh raiding doesnt count when niji does it just because
Or do we just forget about those?

[Anonymous No.]

Surprised this catalog post didn't make the rounds here
>>26716340
About Callie paying ~80% in double taxes and it being a big reason why she wants to make a studio and permanently move back to the US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkjWTZaapQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717208
has a stream ever been removed from the tally because of this? even 100% confirmed ones remained on the tally

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717208

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717182
I don't know what you're bitching about when it gets counted on the tally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717242
No. Not from the OG tally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717182
>When it comes to literally every other streamer this thread turns into massive moralfags and talks about the ethics of streaming and the "correct" ways to get Numbers
But its the holos who usually cry bots or raids when it does win the tally though but when holo does it its suddenly ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717267
so what's the issue,
by
>doesn't count
do you mean people give context to the numbers and you don't like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717263 (Me)
Intended for >>26717069

[Anonymous No.]

>26717318
literal whataboutism. go jump down an elevator shaft, zhang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717242
only from the shitpost tally

[Anonymous No.]

>Holofans getting uppity and defensive now that they are being called out by actual nijifans and not their larps
Huh so thats why they dont like niji in here, not because they shit up the thread but because they actually call them out on their double standards and bs

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716590
I understand that you are a newfag and all that, but you should be at least aware that this place has always looked down on the Twitch streaming meta exactly because of the way that they rack up the "watched hours" meme metric. It is literally a metric that you can game by simply never shutting down the stream and that twitch considers anyone irrespective of status as a legitimate viewer. YouTube on the other hand is very particular about what is acceptable as a streamer and what is considered a legitimate viewer.

[Anonymous No.]

>26717318
>26717458
Nijitrannies and their persecution complex
Everybody is counted on the tally whether botted or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717318
And? You have no argument here, nijiEN numbers get recorded as they are just like everybody else. What do you want here exactly? You want people to stop saying mean things that hurt you? Well too fucking bad but this isn't leddit, take it or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>penalizes the lazy streamers
>top of the list is the laziest one with half the total hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717601
>>26716637
For sure retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717083
Why are you using the old list?

[Anonymous No.]

The luxiem song already has 100k on the topic version and it hasn't even been out for 6 hours. The actual youtube version is definitely going to break the fastest to 1M record.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26716590
If no one considered what the numbers actually meant everyone here would be fawning over magic bilibili numbers. This has never been about mindless worship off big numbers absent of any context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717083
>>only the west speaks english
I dont get how this is a cope? Can anyone explain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717723
Topics do better than real versions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717723
Not surprising since their management is good at handling things like this and It actually might break thee fastest to 1m at this rate

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717881
Noor your ESL is showing, just go to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717723
Only 100k? Huh, fairly low initial views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717934
stop replying to it. it's just looping the exact same bait over and over again.

[Anonymous No.]

The morning stream slot is getting pretty crowded.

Other than NijiEN and Ohayama, all of these are supposed to be reoccurring morning streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718021
I wonder if a company will start just straight up doing morning shows like traditional telly, like news at 7-8 and then just variety shit until noon

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>722,829 views in 1 day
https://youtu.be/E8Bke4RbSqE

What were he previous "fastest song to 1 million" Nijisanji records?
Since this is very much a Orisong with MV and will make the list.

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>>26717230
>There's no tax treaty.
There's no way she doesn't know that there IS a US-Japan tax treaty.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>26718114
Is there even a list?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718114
kuzuha king 12h

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718173
Dont nips charge you with resident tax (forgot if it was 30 or 40) along with local tax 10? Im curious how the american treaty would work

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717723
huh, pretty low actually. Don't think it'll beat any of the singing holos.

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck does Mori have 110k viewers for a superchat reading with like, 3k ccv?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26717986
>>26718472
it also has 81k views on bilibili (video views are actual views and not the live magical numbers)

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718566
UMG pumps her numbers after. Much much harder to detect than live viewbots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718622
die in a fire, chink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718566
stop botting your chuubas, at least the live counter is good at catching them, it explains the weird holoen graphs

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>>26717723
>The actual youtube version is definitely going to break the fastest to 1M record.
Roru. Rumao. Luxiem gets nice CCV but sorry to say, they don't actually have that massive a fanbase at the end of the day. This is one of the odd things to try and challenge. Will it even be on like, Vox or Mysta's channel for the buff?

Ah well, if Anykara buys ads for it, sure.

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>>26718566
Don't question anything, ENgoy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718675
>>26718634
>exactly 1 minute apart
lol

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>>26718676
nah, it's going to be on the main channel. Though that's true, if it's going to be ad buffed, then it hitting 1M doesn't matter because it wouldn't count regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718722
Pure concidence

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>>26718566
Did she have an announcement or something that would explain a lot of short time viewers?
Very strange otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718634
>>26718675
>>26718688
You made me chuckle with your jokes, have some yous

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718722
i'm slow at typing (80)
fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718828
>>26718769
No one but a samefag ever desperately cares this hard to inspect element edit a screenshot. Fuck off retard.

[Anonymous No.]

/news/

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>>26718776
isn't that the one with that SC asking why she's not at the off collab?

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>>26718409
If you file your taxes correctly, you shouldn't be double-taxed in the US-Japan tax treaty convention for any income except for income that may itself be double-taxed due to the mechanisms of the tax laws that apply to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718933
kek

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>>26718998
Huh interesting
I wonder if japs treat income from her streaming work and income from merch sales differently

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718933
Holy shit, Koyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718933
Hit me with a clip

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718933
>actually writing cuckolded
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718933
kek, the closest thing to the mind of shenanigans Coco pulled on her morning show

[Anonymous No.]

>>26719210
im gonna try clipping it an hour after the stream ends

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https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1539896044099698690
3 blondes + Matsuri + real people
Could this be the most debuffed stream ever? I think it could literally get negative numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>26719224
It's the actual translation, innit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26719224
>>26719312
At least she didn’t write “cucked”

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718776
It's probably a combination of the complete lack of HoloEN streams since everyone except Bae decided to stop streaming at the same time as Myth's offcollab along with checking to see if she said anything about the offcollab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26719224
Blessed art thee Hag

[Anonymous No.]

Cover needs to hurry the fuck up with EN3, they badly need to take the crown back from Luxiem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26719457
>thread is fast enough
>there are only 60ish IPs
Samefagging? Two-three people reply each other?
Somehow the thread is shittier when on Ruski timezone

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718622
> bilibili
Are you yellow?

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>>26719591
I thought it starts getting shittier on EU prime time now

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>>26719591
>Two-three people reply each other?
Huh might explain the there are only 3 nijisanji fan thing that intern kun was talking about

[Anonymous No.]

Why is the thread particularly bad today? Nothing even happened, it's slow as fuck. Are people going stir crazy from lack of big streams?

[Anonymous No.]

Newest 1M view vod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTbvDqCYID8

[Anonymous No.]

>>26719749
Pretty much. Plus Salome winning gold on 44k when she was very beatable riled up some Holofags.

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>>26719269
ah, it's another of these fan club ones, it's paid content iirc, i don't think anyone in any thread ever discusses the FC streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>26719749
combination of salome riling up some holos and 1 possibly 2 niji interns

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>>26719390
>cucked
That probably counts as jargon or as an abbreviation.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=injd7gHrIGU
2M

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>>26719153
You'd have to see how the money transfers from the patrons to Mori. But even then, there are provisions for all kinds of things in the tax treaty. So either Cover is being inflexible with their tax structure or Mori is getting scammed by a middleman somewhere.

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>>26719785
>ah, it's another of these fan club ones
So youre telling me that those two are what the average hachaama fan looks like?

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>>26719779
??

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>>26719779
That was kind of annoying but it just goes like that sometimes. Didn't Gura win with like 29k or something? Shit happens. People probably feel worse since it looked like Holos could turn it around and win the month and now it's probably less than a 50% chance to do it. Would be easier to get blown out than almost make a comeback but fail.

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>>26719903
no, the holo website for this is called the fan club
the FC streams are typically they inviting someone semi famous like an actual idol, a VA, professional comedians or whatever and getting some holos to "learn" from them or interview them

[Anonymous No.]

>>26719863
Good ol' Stable Octopus Tip, it still impresses me how well her songs do despite her mediocre at best singing.

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>>26719866
> there are provisions for all kinds of things in the tax treaty
Thats why im curious since the country im in also has a tax treaty with the us and they consider income from work and income from business as separate things

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>>26719989
Thats interesting might actually check that stream out its on the main channel right?

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>>26720047
They are, functionally different things. Hell, entertainment work is treated separately from most general labor.

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>>26720084
nope, it's on their website
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1539896044099698690
and it's usually paid, however sometimes an edited version of the fan club website streams will trickle down to the main channel

[Anonymous No.]

Is Watame the weakest music focused holo? Her biggest song is at 3 million

[Anonymous No.]

>>26719957
Are there even events that could make Niji win the remaining two days over the four or five that Holos have?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26719756
Hey man, fuck you, I was gonna post this at 999,999. Way to blow the load early.

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It's stupid that Cover won't let the Holo girls collab with Niji EN for fear of giving them some incidental exposure that might steal a handful of fans but they'll give them unlimited free reign in NA primetime, completely unopposed, multiple days a week for months. All of them have climbed 1k or more on average CCV, with very little overlap from Luxiem fans, and large overlap from Hololive fans.

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>>26720189
Isn't Mel the weakest music Holo? Isn't she working towards a solo live?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26720239
NijiCN*

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>>26720239
ogey rrat

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>>26720191
They don't need events they just need basic Salome streams and for Hololive not to do anything special that day. Holos get a free win with Laplus but that's all. If both companies have slow days, Niji will win.

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>>26720239
>[unsupported headcanon]
>[retarded implication that Cover ever bothers to control or assist when holos stream]
Both are more likely to apply to NijiEn lmao

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>>26720239
>for fear of giving them some incidental exposure that might steal a handful of fans
ogey

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>>26720239
I am pretty sure it was Nijisanji that blocked the collabs because their Chinese investors chimped out over Holos that supported Coco.

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>>26720239
>Cover won't let the Holo girls
verifiably wrong

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>>26720258
I don't think anybody considers Mel a music Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26720392
She's an ASMR Holo like Noel and Choch she just happens to not be comically tone deaf so she can competently do some music stuff.

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>>26720239
>le completely unrelated to Luxiem's success whopping 1k incline
lmao. lol even. raids and zs may inflate your peaks, but fans will never be gained

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>>26720189
No, irys is

[Anonymous No.]

>>26720239
Niji EN (China)

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>>26720329
But HoloJP isnt blocket from collabing with NijiJP? HoloID wasnt blocked from collabing with NijiID?
And the HoloEN NijiEN collabs were blocked before Luxiem debuted, and back then NijiEN didnt have any chinese viewers at all

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>>26720507
>NijiID
They don't exist retardo niggero

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>>26720507
Tell that to AnyColor's Chinese investors, not me.

[Anonymous No.]

I see a lot of potential racism against China in this thread. I would advise against this kind of posting in the future, you never know what the new mods might think about it.

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>>26720239
there's like 5 fucking assumptions necessary to make your fanfiction work

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>>26720441
Do you believe raids has been a thing for many months or something? You can check NijiENs CCV over several months time and they have steadily been climbing far before raids ever were enabled.
And you can literally look up NijiEN streams on Vrabi and check the viewer overlaps. For the NijiEN girls (exception Nina and Reimu) they all have greater overlap with HoloEN than the male NijiENs

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https://youtu.be/kFaie-Tp1Jw
Numbers?

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>>26720525
>wasnt
Even put that in because I knew some retard like you would reply otherwise. Didnt expect you to be retarded enought not even read the post, so you got me there I guess

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>>26720616
I don't really have a good grasp on what her baseline is, but she's popular on her own, so I'd just say +50% bigger MV growth with the Mori buff.

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>>26720616
I'll say about the same as her usual, but we don't have a way to check the overlap between AmaLee and Holos audience...
Do we?

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>>26720611
Dont bother holofans will just resort to bot posting even though nijifans know that the incline is the result of the management, talent and the fans working together to promote nijisanji even with all the lies

[Anonymous No.]

That's some good retention. Anyone know who raided her?

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>>26720869
>Anyone know who raided her?
/b/

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>>26720869
From checking Vrabi, I believe the raid came from Nina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26720869
3k playing Santae....people are bored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26720611
>>26720839
>For the NijiEN girls (exception Nina and Reimu) they all have greater overlap with HoloEN than the male NijiENs
i just checked the last couple of days and this is a lie for all of them, the closest was pomu who seems to have the most overlap

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>>26720611
I honestly don't care, dude. Your inclines are minimal and caused by male collabs, raids and Zs. Its pathetic to brag about them and even more pathetic to use them as an argument for why Cover needs to....let Kiara (the only one who cares) collab with Pomu. Not like EN has been spamming Vshojo collabs and they're much more popular than NijiEN. Face it, no one actually cares, Gura isn't about to go chasing collabs with them, Mori woulda voiced a desire for it if she cared (she's been whining about Charlie for a year+) and the only other theoretically interested person (no evidence, just based on behavior) is fucking Bae.

[Anonymous No.]

>418 posts
> 70IPs
>Probably 200 of them are from the same person
See you tomorrow guys! <3

[Anonymous No.]

>>26718933
kys cumshart

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>>26721209
wtf

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>>26721086
Yeah some NijiEN girls are strongly overlapping with other female watchers but most of them have like 30% overlap with the males and way less with HoloEN. It's like someone is trying to bullshit exclusively with Pomu's numbers.

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>>26721190
Hopefully no so this place can die along with the lies and retardation it brings