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26153301 No.26153301 [Reply] [Original]

The Gura killer is no more

>> No.26153407

assuming the turnover theory is true i wonder how many people came to see and didnt stay

>> No.26153422

Cope

>> No.26153517

>>26153301
I mean her zatsudan sucks, most people would rather watch Kuzuha or Kenmochi over her right now

>> No.26153549

>>26153517
her "viewers" never go to any other nijistream after she finishes, so why would they be watching kuzuha or kenmochi?

>> No.26153551

>>26153301
How long until she gets bullied out of niji?

>> No.26153584

>>26153301
Still more views than Gura.

>> No.26153619

>>26153584
cope

>> No.26153653

>>26153301
Salome is a great commentarist but she struggles to create conversations out of nowhere, playthrougs are her Strong Point

>> No.26153663

>>26153619
it's true though.

>> No.26153664

>>26153301
her stream is obviously botted to hype up the IPO, i mean it's the most obvious thing ever and people didn't see it.

>> No.26153685
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>>26153301
The curse is real

>> No.26153693

>>26153407
Explain

>> No.26153700

>>26153619
I don't even watch niji. You numberfags are pathetic, I missed the entire thing because I was watching streams instead of discussing numbers.

>> No.26153732

>>26153653
>Salome is a great commentarist but she struggles to create conversations out of nowhere
streaming with a script will do that to you

>> No.26153753

>>26153301
40k salome. Kek

>> No.26153809

We aren't even at the end of the month yet either. Poor Salami.

>> No.26153861

we've been saying from the start that she went viral for her debut and how weird she is, now we're in the phase where her numbers stabilize and holobronies smugly shitpost about her as if they weren't crying and shitting themselves over numbers for weeks

>> No.26153884

IPO pump and dump is over I guess

>> No.26153914

>>26153861
Nijiniggers were the ones hollering and chimping out about her, though.

>> No.26153954
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>>26153301
40k today 20k tomorrow desuwa. Just a flash in the pan she was. It's truly no doubt 120% over for her. Pack it up and and watch Selen instead

>> No.26153965

Her name is one million subs. Now she has one million subs so the meme is over.

>> No.26153986

>>26153861
>Projecting this hard

>> No.26154035

>>26153884
>IPO pump and dump is over
But their price is still at an all-time high and Anycolor's market value right now is like 200B yen.

>> No.26154042

>>26153954
Imagine the deepthroats

>> No.26154048

>>26153549
I'm 'her' viewer I guess but I'm watching Kenmochi over her right now, and I can explain the reason these Nijis get these numbers
Salome - 43k, people who haven't watched all her RE streams would skip it since there'll be spoilers, and her zatsudan isn't great
Kuzuha - 35k, the usual, nothing to say here
Kenmochi - 25k, most of his loyal viewers are women so they only watch his zatsudan/drawing games/rpg maker games that are popular among women. And they aren't watching him now since he's playing a fucking Touhou, also him gushing over Salome and Hololive at the start probably pissed some people off

>> No.26154064

>>26153301
I don't understand? What happened? She was getting 100k for boring ass RE7 part4 streams and shit for almost a whole month. I don't understand how you go from 100k easy a stream to 40k here... What's going on? Something is really really fishy.

>> No.26154105

>>26154064
what i don't understand is how it took her so long to get through RE7. the game is like 4-5 hours long.

>> No.26154124

>>26154064
>peak after debut and then numbers go down
you're right, this is fishy and has never happened before ever

>> No.26154165

>>26154064
Pekora came back.

>> No.26154188
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26154188

>Shark. 2 months after debut - 50K
>Salome. 2 weeks after debut - 45K

>> No.26154222

>>26154064
It's a fucking stream where she talks about RE7, ofc people won't watch that

>> No.26154300

>>26154042
implying you or I have the dick to put that throat to the test

>> No.26154317

>>26153914
>>26153986
holofags were posting 5 thread a day crying about her success and desperately combing through stream data to convince people her views are fake but feel free to keep lying to yourself

>> No.26154458

>>26154317
Are you high? Every single one of those threads was made by someone talking about how she killed gura or how bad hololive is to lose to niji. Most of the time there was no holobronies or numbers in the thread.

>> No.26154508

>>26154300
im 20 inch - just above average, i think i have a chance

>> No.26154766

Did anyone expect her to continue having ~100k+ CCV all the time? Nowadays every corpo vtuber that debuts quickly loses their initial debut numbers and it simply took Salome longer because she was trending everywhere and everyone including various vtubers were talking about her. She fulfilled her meme purpose, some people lost interest and others will continue to support her. Time will show how low will her CCV go until it stabilizes. Heck, even if you believe it was all bots due to IPO then her losing viewers over time still makes sense and I really can't understand why would anyone continue creating multiple threads about it when everyone above 80 IQ knew it was gonna happen.

>> No.26154910

>>26154048
>most of his loyal viewers are women
Delusional if you think women are funny enough to make all those memes/edits.

>> No.26154980

>>26154064
It's a stream where she only talked about the story of RE7 and what she felt in her RE7 playthrough, combined with her low tension today makes the zatsu boring as fuck.
I don't think any other chuuba can score this number talking about the story of a fucking 5-year-old game and what she felt about the character.

>> No.26155100

>>26154064
It's a game review stream.
Have you ever seen any other chuuba do a stream like that? No you haven't, and that's because people don't watch them. Generally, anyway. It's a wonder that she got even 40K here.
She'll have her numbers back when she games again.

>> No.26155166

>>26153301
Anycolor staff forgot to activate their bot program

>> No.26155171

>>26153517
Kill yourself fujo. Kuzuha and Kenmochi are like watching paint dry.

>> No.26155241

>>26155171
>Kuzuha
>Kuzuha Rust
>fujo
Rumao

>> No.26155271

>>26153584
You mean more bots than Gura
Chumbuds may be weird losers but at least they actually exist

>> No.26155318

>>26155241
Kuzuha looks and sounds like a faggot. Only women watch him.

>> No.26155351

>>26154766
Everyone except the delusional cunts in the salami general and the chinese shills in the numbers thread knew. This was a fabricated maketing campaign to inflate nijisanjis stock price.

>> No.26155388

>>26155318
Sure dude, and only women watch xqc

>> No.26155399

>>26155171
I wonder how you people can live like this. What would your mom think?

>> No.26155409

>>26155166
No, it was still active. Her chat stats still show extremely low overlap with other Niji members.
If the viewers were real for a filter stream like this, the overlap should have been higher.

>> No.26155583

>>26155388
>>26155399
Why would a man watch boring faggots like Kuzuha and Kenmochi? That shit is for fujos and yumes.
When men watch male vtubers they watch relatable ones like Yashiro and Kanda.

>> No.26155597

>>26154188
I remember watching gura back then and waiting with anticipation for every stream. However, you can't really compare those numbers without looking into it objectively.
First of all, since those early Gura days YT has rolled out at least 2 updates (late 2020 and 2021) that more "accurately" count CCV which now results in many streams having up to 20% audience simply not appear in metrics anywhere. Are they real or are they bots is up to debate but that's not the point.
Secondly, when Myth debuted it was pretty much corona peak in the West so everyone were just...there. Moreover, first EN corpo group buff was also real.
Thirdly, sorry to say this about other EN vtubers but back then Gura had no real competition. Today's equivalent would be removing top 10-15 JP vtubers and then suddenly dropping peko out of nowhere who would mog everyone.
Finally, when you take everything into consideration their situation is just too different to compare. Salome is basically a meme while gura was jesus in EN vtubing sphere. Jesus died quickly and did nothing for 2k years still remaining popular and gura is basically enjoying the same snowball effect right now while being lazy as fuck.

>> No.26155604

>>26154222
>>26154980
>>26155100
You backwards rationalizing faggots are disgusting to listen to
If they kept the bots on and she was at 100k viewers for this stream you would be here saying
> of course everyone who watched the playthrough is going to come watch the zatsu at the end where she recaps and reviews her expirience, ITS OBVIOUS THIS STREAM WOULD GET 100K VIEWERS TOO

You've already decided what you believe and are making up "arguments" that are really just bullshit to confirm what you've already decided is true
If you're going to fucking say "this zatsu is boring, obviously no one will watch", why the fuck wernt you saying that before, because Part 6 of resident evil, a year after everyone else played it, is just as fucking boring in the first place

>> No.26155778

>>26154165
Her audience is an absolute mistery. There is little to no overlapping audience with anyone else in the industry. The most who get an increase in numbers are for some reason Holomembers but it has never reached more than 6k(out of 100k viewers for fuck's sake, what?).

>> No.26155794

>>26155604
Don't put words in my mouth, retard. I never would've expected this stream to do as good as her game streams and lo and behold, it didn't.

>> No.26155830

>>26154508
Inches are not milimeters eurofriend

>> No.26155888

>>26153301
40k zatsu
is it over?

>> No.26155904

>>26154105
She only plays 1 hour at a time, how is it confusing that it takes her 5 hours to complete a 5 hour game?

>> No.26155922

>>26155604
>You've already decided what you believe and are making up "arguments" that are really just bullshit to confirm what you've already decided is true
This line is literally describing you numberfags that are still crying about bots.
Also, there's a reason that streamers in general play those games over and over no matter how many people have played them because there will be always someone who loves to see the playthrough and the reaction, but none of them will make a stream just to talk and review the story for an hour. I never expect this to do good in the first place, blame whoever told you this kind of content won't be a debuff.

>> No.26156046

>>26155583
I just think you either haven't watched Kenmochi / Kuzuha or you don't know what good fujobait and yumebait are.

Either way, extremely retarded for speaking like you're knowledgeable.

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>>26153664
>>26153685
>>26153732
>>26153884
>>26153954
>>26154035
>>26154165
>>26154317
>>26154508
>>26155166
>>26155171
>>26155597
TAKE
YOUR
FKING
MEDS

>> No.26156243

>>26154105
The average playtime for most people is like 10 hours anonchama

>> No.26156399

>>26153301
>It's a fucking recap stream
Who would've guessed that a stream where you just listen to her recaping her experience has less view than actually playing the game

>> No.26156451

She literally had 100k yesterday, and this is a game review/recap. Please stop acting retarded about this.

>> No.26156520

The IPO is finally ending bros

>> No.26156721

>>26153301
>normal CCV still higher then pekoras
>killer no more

>> No.26156767

How many layers of falseflag is this thread on?

>> No.26156818

How is it surprising?, can't pay for bots forever

>> No.26156944 [DELETED] 

>>26156399
but dont people watch her for the larp? zatsus should be her strong point

>> No.26156994

>>26156451
so, people aren't sticking around for the tired ojou larp? did the 5 year old horror game draw in the 60k that left?

>> No.26157069

Well if this thread has revealed anything it's that there unironically are a bunch of "people" here who never watch Vtubers streams and don't know what they're like

>> No.26157116

>>26156944
>but dont people watch her for the larp? zatsus should be her strong point
the one in your head yeah

>> No.26157337

>>26154048
I don't understand kenmochis appeal for women viewers? His zatsudans are good, but isn't his biggest gimmick all about how much he loves loli's?

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>s-she's declining!
>still has more viewers than the average Niji OR Holo stream
Amazing! Even when she's losing, no one can beat her! How does she do it?

>> No.26157443

>>26156994
Exactly
If people claim that her acting skills are what are drawing viewers, then a zatsu stream should be a BUFF.
The fact that she's playing a decade old game should cause her to drop viewers no matter how good her character is.
And these viewers should come back when the stream is purely her character talking and interacting with chat.
For every big streamer, a rare zatsu after a bunch of gaming streams is a buff

>> No.26157522

>>26157411
to be fair, the average niji stream has like 300-400 CCV thanks to ID and KR.

>> No.26157733

>>26157411
> not even a month in
> already bleeding 50% of her viewers
> NGMI

>> No.26157856

>>26157443
>interacting with chat
Yeah, you don't even watch her. The whole stream is basically her using her own drawing to do an RE7 presentation with minimal interaction with chat.
>rare zatsu
Her last zatsu is literally less than a week ago.
Also, just stop pulling shit from your ass, the traffic of her recap stream is almost the same as her English learning stream, which means still a bunch of people check her up and only leave because the content itself is boring.
https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1537101492104048641
https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1534926437991391237

>> No.26157889

>>26153584
chinese doesn't count.

>> No.26157921

>>26157856
>The whole stream is basically her using her own drawing to do an RE7 presentation with minimal interaction with chat.
can she do anything that isn't heavily scripted?

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>>26157921
>can she do anything that isn't heavily scripted?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....you're serious?

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>literally just eats a burger.
Why couldn't your oshi just eat a burger and get lots of attention too?

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>>26159002
>Why couldn't your oshi just eat a burger and get lots of attention too?
Because no one wants to copy fubuki. Just like Salome is doing, leeching off of her.

>> No.26159419

Why can't vtubers fucking understand no one likes zatzudans. chat reading whatever trash.
Why would I tune in to watch to have some shitter's comment being read on a static background instead of their own content.
I don't understand why vtubers feel the need to read everything they get, some vtubers don't read SCs and no one cares.
These streams killed by hype for Ame and Kronii, and it slowly drove them out of my feed.
I still remember those Sundays with nothing to do and then check *Oh great Ame is streaming* >Zatzu, -ignore. Same with Kronii, 1 or 2 streams a week only get my hopes crushed by boring zatzus. Which might even hurt their growth considering they declined considerably unlike Gura or Ina who never read shit aside few SCs as they pop.
Salome is the one vtuber that shouldn't care about these type of streams considering her time on stream is very limited and her strength entirely comes from gathering a big live audience and viral content.

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>>26153619

>> No.26159562

>>26159419
>Why can't vtubers fucking understand no one likes zatzudans
Try asking a lot of the fans who liked them because they want to feel emotionally validated when their SCs are read like they are entitled to be heard anon.

>> No.26159573

>>26159419
>Why can't vtubers fucking understand no one likes zatzudans. chat reading whatever trash.
Source?

>> No.26159594

>>26159419
they like Subaru's and Mio's zatsudans so maybe Kronii and Ame are just kind of boring

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>>26157411
Ojou-sama SEX
Salome-sama SEX
UOOOOOOOHHHHH

>> No.26159677

>>26159419
Surprise surprise, who's the rabbit who keep taking comments from the livechat during her livestreams? Who used to be the most watched Vtuber? Stop acting retarded please.

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>>26153301
>seems to at least understand the appeal of all the fetishes
>actually understands how King Crimson works

>meanwhile, Gura didn't even know what ZR was until the past week, and still doesn't understand the appeal of thighs

Salami has only been around for like 2 weeks and I already like her way more than the shark. Gura is like an entry-level, Naruto-tier anime fan in comparison.

They don't even have the same appeal, character or design-wise.

>> No.26160784

>>26159573
Numbers? Retard? Zatzus always get 1/2-1/3rd of regular streams

>> No.26160867

>>26160201
>>seems to at least understand the appeal of all the fetishes
That's because Salome is a NEET, its not that hard to figure out that fake Ojou.

>> No.26160909

>>26153301
bot funds ran out? I thought nijizhangji was thriving?

>> No.26160962

>>26160909
Nijisanji is never thriving. They keep on spending money on making new talents and not improving their existing ones.

>> No.26161066

>>26155778
all me, sorry i only watch salome

>> No.26161106

Pekora is back. Niji's only hope now is that her new pet monkey ruins her life to such a degree that she can't stream anymore. But it was as I thought. Her rise was because Hololive's power hitters were on the bench so you had 40kish viewers wandering around with nothing to watch for a month.

It was fun while it lasted nijibros. But your reign is over.

>> No.26162014

>>26155597
>YT rolled out 2 updates that more "accurately" count CCV
Which somehow only affects EN since JP have no troubles getting big numbers

>> No.26163119

>>26161106
Why do you post like a comic book villain?

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>>26162014
>only affects EN
they affect the viewers, who can be anywhere.

>> No.26163962

Salome's viewers are a mystery. Feels like they watch just salome. Barely any funnel when her senpai's graduation was over and her viewers just disappear into thin air after she stopped streaming.

>> No.26164618

>>26154188
>minecraft
>minecraft
>minecraft
>phasmophobia
trash tier

>> No.26164873

>>26163962
All these posts about Salome's viewers describe me. Well I'm right here you can ask me anything.

>> No.26165976

>>26160201
>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ...

>> No.26166071

>>26154188
I'm gonna say it, Gura rode the pandemic to success. If it wasntnfor the quarantine and baby shark memes she would have performed worse than Salome by a landslide, no one believes Gura is where she is based on merit alone.

>> No.26166074

Told you it would take 2 more weeks for her growth to die down. Least she got Niji the IPO deal so she did her job

>> No.26166885

>>26155597
>Corona peak
I'm tired of reading this in regards to Myth. Corona peak in the west was March-June 2020. Myth didn't debut until September. By September most lockdowns were already lifted.

>> No.26167480

>>26153584
Seethe

>> No.26167669

>>26155271
Based>>

>> No.26167728

>>26153861
Yeah bruh it was the Holoniggers posting endless bait threads with her, sure.

>> No.26167749

OH NO NO VIEWFARMS DOKO

>> No.26168007

>>26163119
Nijiantis are literal cartoon villains.
These people are not functional

>> No.26168483

>>26153301
Makes sense given she already beat the game and there wasn't much to say about it.
It'll be interesting to see how many viewers she gets when playing Disaster Report.

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>> No.26169084

>>26159419
any kind of collab > zatsu > solo game (first time) > shit > solo game (routine game)
The thinking man's stream preference.

>> No.26169623

It's going to be hilarious when she's back to 80k next stream. Cope will be amazing.

>> No.26172566

>>26153301
sad

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>>26159419
>Why can't vtubers fucking understand no one likes zatzudans
shut the fuck up and go back to /v/, faggot

>> No.26173262

>>26173012
>inaturd

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There are no holofans OR nijifans in thsi thread, it's only shitposters.
And I'm no different...

>> No.26173933

>>26166071
there's no such thing as merit for vtubers and streamers in general

>> No.26174492

>>26166071
Nobody succeeds through merit alone, ever, at anything. That's retarded.
The world is so much more than just one person, there's too many things at play for your merit to ever be the only meaningful factor.

>> No.26174552

It begins
All the unattainable hype these nijichinks put on her, now she can't obviously meet them
They'll eat her alive
Poor girl

>> No.26174555

>>26173012
Stop harassing a chan to shill your stream Ina!

>> No.26174592

>>26174555
nijiseethe

>> No.26174829

>>26159419
This kill the gachi in denial. Seriously, there is zero excuse to follow a normal girl talk about her encrypted anecdotes, which is bizarre because she does not want to reveal private information but is willing to tell you her every day activity. There’s no entertainment in there, just need of gossip material and needs to feel closer with the person behind the avatar.

>> No.26175246

>>26174492
Yeah, but people like to believe that their lives are completely in their hands, especially if they started with some kind of financial and/or social safety net. Bad things only happen to bad people, so on and so forth.

>> No.26175320

>>26168557
3 months in and Kobo keeps inclining, like literally increasing in subs growth and ccv. She can be legit the Gura killer at this point.

>> No.26175420

>>26159419
That's why they do it. Viewers will eventually get bored of them, so they try to cultivate a longer-term audience with zatsudans and gfe or whatever.

>> No.26175516

>>26175320
Impossible, there's not enough total indogs.

>> No.26177645

>>26153301
>The Gura killer is no more
I will laugh if she still gets more views than the shark buff wwe stream

>> No.26177659

>>26157337
Nah the lolicon thing is just a joke, no one cares about it that much. His biggest strong point is him joking around using his viewers' comments and funny edit pics.
>>26154910
True. People who make those are male fans but the fact is half of the people in his fanbase are women and they definitely don't watch him playing games they don't understand, that's the main reason he doesn't stream mahjong or Yugioh that he loves so much.
Also about Salome, her 1M celebration talk stream sucked, her English study talk stream sucked, people would assume this RE7 talk stream would suck like other ones and skip it, her numbers are gonna go back up once she stream game.

>> No.26178495

>>26169623
The cope will just be /#/bots factory resetting their brain back to their regularly scheduled programming of shouting into the void about bots or chat activity or whatever. Then Salome will have another stream where she dips below 70-80k CCV and you will see this exact same thread all over again.

Ironically the most bot-like thing you can attribute to Salome is the average /vt/poster's general reaction to her.

>> No.26179467

Administrative division of Japan is such a snorefest that no one could make it interesting to watch

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