/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

TICK TOCK OTAKMORI
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1536955137184645120?s=20

[Anonymous No.]

leechlive now copying vspo

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>>26136478
>we don't want free exposure!
This is how companies die.

[Anonymous No.]

Somehow I thought this was a Takamori thread. Why do you remind us of Otakmori's existence?

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>>26136571
At least they're not taking clippers to court like vshojo is doing right now.

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>>26136571
Too many people misrepresenting shit. Drama whores.

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>>26136478
No Cover, I don't think I will

[Anonymous No.]

Nasty way to address the people that's the entire backbone of your company. People don't just use clips to stay up-to-date, it's also essentially a convenient catalog for what streams to watch.

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>>26136478
Based. Fuck clippers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136542
not the same
>>26136571
if you are a normal clipper that isn't doing retarded clickbaits most likely nothing will change

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136677
And some clippers are retarded and fuck shit up.
Why do you guys act like every single clipper is in the crosshairs because of a few dipshits?

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>>26136669
>>26136677
did you retards even read what the page said?

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>>26136711
someone's mad

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>>26136716
No they didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136734
Probably.
I just don't understand why people can't read or think.
It's pretty frustrating.

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>>26136716
Yes? It said:
>Please refrain from uploading clips before the source stream ends and the VOD is made public.
And no, I'm not going to wait, suck my dick Yagoo

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>>26136701
excluding the 24h thing it's basically the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136716
No, we just want to pretend like this is a bad thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136711
It's sad that some people on this board always take the most bad faith interpretation of anything that happens in this industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136711
Nothing bad has ever happened because of some SEA clipper. Like actually bad. They don't deserve this.

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>>26136758
Stop being retarded

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>>26136758
And thus people will now have the grounds to report and flag.. waiting for the month where that happens and this board gets filled with Holo abusing its authority after saying what It can and will do...

[Anonymous No.]

>le sokovia accords

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>>26136808
PLEASE THINK OF THE SEA ;;;;;;____:;;;;;;;;;;;;

[Anonymous No.]

Can any of you fags read
>you MAY sign up for an ID, not mandatory
>sign up to be protected from Holo copyrigut claims so your channel isn't fucked
>asked to provide sauce to your clips
>blatantly say you are allowed to monetize clips
>no posting clips while stream is live
I am not even a Holofag, never once watched those bitches and yet I can respect their compant protecting clippers
>>26136758
Because it makes the ongoing stream at risk of being instantly deleted you fucking retard, it happened to Tamaki

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>>26136808
They deserve it just for being SEA alone.

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>>26136478
Based. Dramaniggers (including otakfag) hopefully finally kill themselves

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>>26136850
>Because it makes the ongoing stream at risk of being instantly deleted you fucking retard, it happened to Tamaki
Oh no
Anyway

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>>26136769
asking for permission and 24hrs, neither of which is in these guidelines...
properly source and wait till the stream ends (which was already the case)

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this is exactly like it was before except you can optionally avoid takedowns by registering, and you are now allowed to open membership on your clip channel

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>>26136897
No wonder you subhumans are so hated even on other boards.

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>>26136677
>Clippers
>Backbone of the company
That would be the talents themselves clipnigger
>Convenient catalog for what streams to watch
Instead of using each holo's actual channel? Fuck right off fron this hobby you leech enabling piece of shit

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>>26136599
>Court
>The 50 year old judge has to be told what the hell a vtuber is
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136808
SEAniggers deserve all the bs that comes their way

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
>we may cancel your registration depending on thumbnails
lmao

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>>26136599
>clippers to court like vshojo is doing right now.
If that guy is a clipper, I am a plane.

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>>26136478
This is just the same as always, only with the new registration option to avoid takedown. Seems more supportive of clippers than anything else, whats the drama here?

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>>26137215
One takes unflattering moments from vtuber streams and makes clipbait thumbnails for views. The other does "Research" into possible scandals with only sources of validation being nah senpai trust. This guy i brought in for an interview is totally the guy. I'm the only one with all the connections to make this investigation possible. I'm indifferent to the guy but how can anyone trust a word he says without searching first?? In this day and age!?

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>>26137336
No one can read and everyone just wants a shitstorm

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>>26136478
>OTAKMORI
LIVING IN YA HEAD RENT FREE

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>>26136478
I don't wanna read all of that. My only 2 questions are
>Can i blame Mori for this
>Is she a fat cow bitch?

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>>26136571
You're one of those retards who unironically believe "Any publicity if good publicity."

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>>26136478
Reminds me a little too much of Anycolor, I hope Cover doesn't enforce this too much.

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>>26137589
Anycolor literally don't have anything like that. The first one who did this was VSPO, now its cover.

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>>26136478
Will this mean that all clips from privated streams like Pekora's MGS playthroughs and moments from Korone's Pepsiman stream will be removed as well?

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>>26136850
>>sign up to be protected from Holo copyrigut claims so your channel isn't fucked
It's more like if you're signed up they'll at least warn you that they might take down your clip. Having an ID isn't that strong of a shield.

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>>26137336
Trying to regulate what must be dozens upon dozens of clipper channels seems pointless.

[Anonymous No.]

>We do not consider the use of our content as is, or with modifications lacking creative input, to be classified as derivative works. Such use does not fall within the scope of these guidelines.
What if the clippers only take part of the stream and only put subtitles for it?
And there's one chad that translate the whole Mario Kart championship and Hololive Sports Fes

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>>26137702
It gives you the opportunity to remove the video pre-emptively so you don't get a strike. Sounds like a win for me if they're gonna do it anyway. At least you don't get any bad marks on your channel.

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>>26137587
It is you dumb fuck. There's a reason so many stars deliberately spark controversy for boosting sales. It is a well established and proven marketing tool.

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Okay, so are they going to do anything about that one clipper that got 500k subs, opened membership and debuted a vtuber model?

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>>26136758
I feel sorry for your parents

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>please do these things or else we'll do nothing
Okay then.

[Anonymous No.]

>oh no otakmori is... ~le bad
>thank you kind reddit overlords
The absolute state

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>>26136478
>Not thanking clippers and watching them on stream.

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>>26136571
No, clippers have permission. But don't be a dick about it.

[Anonymous No.]

So if you were to theoretically be using Gura's PL audio lapping over one of her current stream highlights, which source would you credit?

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>>26136758
If you upload it before the original stream ends youtube may flag the clip as the original source and therefore delete the chuubas video. These ruling are also made so the clippers can avoid getting fucked in the ass by the massive corporate dick following this but hey you seem to enjoy it.

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>>26137814
allowed under these guidelines

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136571
Your reading comprehension reps...

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>>26137904
Then this whole thing is pointless to me.

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>>26137904
Even then cover holds no power over clippers if they don't break any youtube rulings. The slander or misrepresentation thing is the most they can officially go for and those are mostly up for debate.
They can, however, put you on their personal shitlist for anything regarding the future.

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>>26136701
>>26137845
this
also otakmori got better I think? So basically the entire thread is a nothingburger.

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>>26137026
It could be worse like moot explaining what a "newfag" is

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>>26138062
otakamori is marginally better but also self-promos here so fuck him forever

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>>26137755
Translation is "creative input" as long as you're actually doing some work instead of relying on a machine.

[Anonymous No.]

>people reporting and bringing attention to him and Kami
big kusa

[Anonymous No.]

This is only going to bite them in the ass. Not everyone has the time to watch a 5 hour stream. Clips are harmless and honestly better then full streams sometimes. Clips are the only reason why Hololive is where it’s at now.

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>>26136478
I honestly don't see what people are up in arms over?

1. clippers have done source in description forever
2. they accept clippers are making money, but don't claim ips or clip stuff the talents themselves don't even has in archive or have the possibility to archive.
3. voluntary register, allowing for a process were your channel wouldn't risk getting nuked since you get 7 days grace period.

[Anonymous No.]

So some poor intern is going to have to comb through the clips made by unregistered clippers? Or do they have a report system in place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26138238
Because people want something to screech at. Nothing has changed except if you are peddling rrats in clips then cover may strike you

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>>26138250
Registration is optional, nothing's changed, they're just now offering a system for clippers to register so that they can avoid being hit by copyright strikes and talk it out instead. Try reading the OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26138268
Companyfag, people should do what they want.

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>>26138312
I should be allowed to hurt other people if I want and relying on enforcement of rules to stop me from hurting people is bootlicking.

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>>26137989
Didn't Cover take down one or two clips with misleading title and contents from otakmori channel before?
The third report would make him lose his channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>26138250
its more that if they get reported a clip that's misleading, they will check their registered list before resorting to the big dick copyright strike

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>>26138345
Bro it's Youtube videos not real life, your logic is idiotic.

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>>26138062
Because his clips have been taken down before so he's currently more well behaving than before

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>>26138305
I read the OP and it just looks tedious. How frequently was Cover handing out copyright strikes? If dozens upon dozens of clips are getting dropped all the time I have my doubts that they'll even catch most offenders.

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>>26138212
Do you even read the article?

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>>26136897
Bye :)

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>>26138398
Not very often unless people were reporting the videos to cover or getting ass blasted on reddit. It only affects people uploading bad translations, clipping things out of context, or clickbait based on thumbnail line desu

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>>26138541
>clipping things out of context
but that's funny.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive copying Vsowhore. What are they worried about? As long as none of their talents come and say that they cheated on their boyfriend or husband then they should be okay. Oh, so Cover doesn't want any criticism out there or clips if the girls do something bad. What pussies

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>>26136571
Either this is Otakmori or an idiot. Either way I'm glad he's on his way out. Good riddance.

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>>26136478
It's amazing the number of people who don't realize the reddit mod (T-Chan) who started that thing about Otakmori was lying in the first place and Otakmoris translation was actually accurate. It just painted a talent in a bad light

Of course most people here are from Reddit and never did their reps so they blindly take the word of a reddit mod as gospel truth and don't bother watching the clip.

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>>26138305
Why do this now though? It makes it seem like it will change and that they are going to be issuing takedowns a lot more now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26137484
> yes
> and yes

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>>26138640
Baffling post

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>>26138640
Are you really shilling fucking Otakmori? Who the fuck are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26138640
DYRBI

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>>26138656
Probably in preparation a big push with EN3

[Anonymous No.]

>>26138640
(You)

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>>26138656
To retarded subhumans like you, it does.
To clippers, it is simply a reposting of rules plus a club you can join to be notified that Cover-san dislikes your shit clip and that you should delete it, instead of them permanently striking your channel.

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>>26138663
>>26138678
>>26138682
>>26138704
Bunch of globalfags getting on their knees to suck that sweet redditmod dick. Too deep in the hole to recognize you got tricked by a tranny.

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>>26138611
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: Retards can't read.

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>>26138640
t. Otakmori

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>>26136591
maybe thats part of how he became one of the biggest clipping channels people googled him by accident

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is solid proof that most of /vt/ can't read or have any reading comprehension at all and just parrot buzzwords from twitter and reddit.

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>>26139089
seethe

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>>26139089

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>>26139109
>>26139110
I'm sorry that the poor education your parent gave you isn't enough to teach you how to talk. I can't imagine being only able to parrot other people

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>>26139233

[Anonymous No.]

ITT retards defending a million dollar corporation and shitting on free clips made for fans

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>>26136478
Soda bros...

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>>26139322

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>>26136758
Your loss btw

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>>26139322
This is only bad news for dramaniggers who make and spread deliberately misleading rrat clips
I guess that explains why there's seething about it on this board actually

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>>26137589
Rent fucking free

[Anonymous No.]

I would rather they request to know which country the said clipper is from and if they are from SEA then ban them entirely from creating any hololive based content. Theirs is by far the worst, most clickbaity, dishonest and poor quality. I'm serious, the sooner those reprobates and their clipping sweatshops are banned from making their easy meal tickets, the quicker things like this will drastically improve.

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>>26136478
>Going the full corpo way
Glad I dropped this shit with Rushia.

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>>26136571
Did you even read the post ?

[Anonymous No.]

Otakmori and Kami Clips get the Holorope. Finally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26139740
but dramafags like otakmori were part of the reason why things got bad in the first place

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>>26136478
>the registration forms specifically asks for your monetization status
This sounds like the prelude to something.
The only stated purpose of registering is being told in advance if your videos are gonna get taken down, based on that they have no use for this information.
Either they're gonna crack down harder on monetized channels, or they're planning to just straight up hit them all later down the line.

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>>26139568
This doesn't change anything for anyone.
Their rules are essentially the same, Cover is just lazy about enforcing them. The only big difference is that monetization is now explicitly permitted, instead of being iffy.
Only way this changes anything is if the fact that they're doing it at all means they're actually hiring someone to review fan content.

[Anonymous No.]

How much cash do the big clippers make anyway?
I see some channels that put up like 3 clips a day, each with 100k+ views. For something so quick to produce, that isn't even your own content, clipping seems like a pretty efficient way to earn some income. Even if it's a side hobby next to another job. I mean you don't even need to watch the streams at all, just go to any large streamer's vod and take your pick from one of the timestamp monkeys in the comments.

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>>26141323
Isn't ad revenue a joke nowadays?

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>>26136897
At best you're just gonna cause the vod to be down for a day, meanwhile they can strike you back and take you to court. This is for your own good retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26141323
most clippers are seanigs so its a decent amount when it gets converted to their currency

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>>26137989
>if they don't break any youtube rulings.
Cover can still strike you down for using images/sound from the streams that they own, they just rather would let most of them go since they understand how much it helps them in the long run.

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>>26141323
Not a fuckton but enough to treat it as a full time job with a good salary.
Ad revenue varies wildly based on video length and a bunch of seemingly random and arbitrary factors, and the CPM to RPM conversion also has a lot of variance based on who-the-actual-fuck-knows, so I can't speak for Vtuber clippers, but based on ad revenue for other short videos, a 100k view clip should net you between 70~100 bucks.
if it's 3 a day, and it's every day of the month, you're looking at 6300 to 9000 bucks a month. This could even end up being worth significantly more depending on their country and currency (or less), but other countries also pay double taxation for US views so I'd imagine the net income is generally equal or less.

By the way anyone who uploads exactly 30 second videos that seem to have filler is a faggot. It seems like not everyone got the memo since it's changed a few times, but 30 seconds is what you need to make money of off of a video. Shorter videos CAN be monetized, but usually get something stupid like 1/10th or 1/20th of the amount. I pray to god animators get better ads or some sort of benefit that lets them get more money than that.

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>>26142122
Isn't that why they put intros and outros on them? To pad them out to reach the magic number.

[Anonymous No.]

Red letters with black outlining, strike it.

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>>26142252
Not necessarily, outros serve to put end-screen elements and basically advertise yourself and your other clips, which actually matters a lot.
Intros though... I don't fucking know, never used them, don't get them. Could be just for padding, but the only channels I follow that have intros do longer clips anyways, guess it's just for fun or brand recognition.

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>>26142252
You need an outro if you have those ending cards suggesting other videos, because otherwise they overlap the end of the actual content and there's no way to hide them

[Anonymous No.]

lol just make your own clips cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136758
Seething leech

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>>26137685
Not enough people is paying attention to this.
While I don't think things will change at all, it feels like both parties might have to walk on eggshells. Cover could very well go on a crusade to take down clips from deleted/privated vods for example, some girls might request the staff to go after certain clips, etc. Again, I don't think anything will change but at the same time it won't take much to make things go south and trigger clipniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

Otakmori says fuck you to YAGOO
continues to clip but add commentary to it, so it falls under fair-use
Yeah Hololive don't bite the clippers hand that gives you free exposure

[Anonymous No.]

CLIPPER GENOCIDE LETS FUCKING GO

[Anonymous No.]

>this company news
>people are already whining about specific clippers
>they will inevitably approach holos about it
>hols will be forced to take a stance against or in favor of clippers
>certain holos already have a clear seething hate for clippers
>some other holos openly appreciate them
>this will lead to instances of more menhara members shitting or wanking clippers too hard
>the community starts witch hunts or whines about special treatment respectively
>supporters and fans of the clippers (they exist, somehow) will retaliate the only way they know how, seething and shit flinging
>this leads to an all out clipper civil war

[Anonymous No.]

>>26142506
>>26142520
>ending cards for video suggestions
Yeah that makes sense now. Pretty simple, but I never thought about it that way before. These clippers really do use every trick available.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26142738
>continues to clip but add commentary to it, so it falls under fair-use
Hey, guess what doesn't exist in Japanese law

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136808
You waste of fucking oxygen. It's because of colossal cum guzzling cliptards like you that I have to suffer
>loooool peko war crimmee
>ppeeekoo comdiaan
>waw cwime wabbit
in everyone one of her stream chats, youtube comments, social media. You pagpag eating, dumpster bathing, mudhut living motherfucker. Yes I'm fucking seething.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26142901
that actually would mean something if YouTubes were a Japanese company that has comply to Japanese laws

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136571
Anon...you better read it first before post

[Anonymous No.]

For me, it's when they use that annoying front in the title and end it in "...." or use an ambigious statement such as "NO X DON'T DO THAT!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>26143036
Youtube does whatever creates the least work for them anon, if some nip company says a video is illegal under local law they will remove it regardless
It's literally how cover managed to do a coordinated copyright strike with kson to get that one dramatuber banned

[Anonymous No.]

>>26142122
>I pray to god animators get better ads or some sort of benefit that lets them get more money than that
>on Youtube
I think we already know the answer

[Anonymous No.]

>>26143141
I don't know the content of that video, but if was harmful/malicious YouTube would take it down just for that and not copyright

[Anonymous No.]

>>26143269
The videos literally said
>This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by カバー株式会社

[Anonymous No.]

>>26143141
>if some nip company says a video is illegal under local law they will remove it regardless
No, they'll just region lock it. There IS precedent for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26143448
That's for content where the copyright holder is different in different regions, you don't even get a strike if they do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>26142122
>I pray to god animators get better ads or some sort of benefit that lets them get more money than that
Youtube hates animators, especially high effort ones. The ones that are essentially clippers but with an extra coat of paint can still get by because of how fast they can churn out uploads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26143141
>It's literally how cover managed to do a coordinated copyright strike with kson to get that one dramatuber banned
It wasn't coordinated, the guy had one strike from Cover from months earlier
>>26143269
If you DMCA a video, and you are persistent (you have lawyers), it will stay down until it goes to court and a judge orders it back up.
>>26143448
That's a Content ID feature, that's completely different from copyright claims.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
Is this the start of hololive decline and the beginning of nijisanji reign?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26143821
Start of the decline of mainstream vtubing and everything will return back to a niche....like the old days...I hope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26138640
>>26138724
hlg has always been the reddit reject general. those fags only post there because they got heccin downboated on reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
Based. Was about time they did something about the clipper problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26143971
Vtubers (and streaming) have actually been in a large-scale decline for many months due to the end of coof lockdowns
If someone has numbers that are steady or growing right now they're massively outperforming the market

[Anonymous No.]

>>26144337
/hlgg/. /hlg/ is on /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>26144536
Who cares? Same shithole, just with people who prefer listening to japs instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26143787
When he says coordinated he means that the strike from Cover landed the same time as Kson's to shut down his channel, which basically gave him no time to push out another bullshit video like the one where he claimed to have talked to Kson privately, resolved everything, and would have an interview with her soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>26144665
Newfag, learn the differences before giving your opinion

[Anonymous No.]

looks like the only thing that clippers have to change now is add in the actual stream title to the description

[Anonymous No.]

>>26144763
That is not correct, the claim from Cover was filed long before Kson's like I said already. He had time to make that video because Kson's two claims had about a day or two in between them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
They will not strike any clippers on the platform but this will be the tool to get rid off all the "black background, red letters and yellow border" contents

[Anonymous No.]

>Content that damages our image, or that of our talents or our content
We will finally know if Omega got fired or not. If they're still working they'll absoultely use this to take down every clip of a holo shitting on him and claim it was out of context slander.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn no one here actually even mentioned how JP had recently passed a law on slander? That's probably the main reason why they are only updating the terms and rules for clipping now instead of before, its to help alleviate concerns of the clippers that they would get easily sued for slander cause they titled a video with clickbait stuff like "Irys saying a sensitive word" when she's just saying she likes whipped cream on her banana. Heck they are also giving them even more incentive by explicitly allowing monetization where before it was muddled whether its fine for clippers to put ads or give early access to their clips for members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
The community has became so shit that Cover now have to make what used to be common sense into guideline.
EN is a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136571
Get fucked Otakmori!

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
>this link
Cyber security 101 tells me to never click that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26137587
salome got real views doing that
the botfags screamed so much that real people went to check her streams lmao

also, there are studies around this subject that prooves that more exposure/publicity really works regardless if good or bad
people would basically vote for the most famous criminal than vote for some unkown innocentfag if given a chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136677
Shutup Otakmori. The backbone of Cover are the clippers who they AREN'T talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26144665
/hlg/ doesn't watch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26146688
>EN is a mistake
Bruh, ID and JP would have done the same thing the moment you can monetize clips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26148051
Those clippers already existed prior to even Kizuna AI days, EOP faggot. The problem is LITERALLY EN community, AS ALWAYS. For some reason EN people seem to lack common sense.

[Anonymous No.]

You realize this is mainly targeted towards Asian and SEA clippers, right? And that EU and North American clippers are still protected by fair use?

If there's enough transformative elements in the 'clip' then cover can't do anything unless it actually breaks youtube ToS. Don't know where dudes like Otakmori live, but if they're in a place where Fair Use is implemented, then Cover can't do shit. A translation of a video is transformative enough to be protected by fair use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26149327
>You realize this is mainly targeted towards Asian and SEA clippers
No it's not, otakmori. Your time is up, start making actual quality clips or shut up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26149327
transformation alone is absolutely not sufficient to meet the requirements for fair use. read the statute, 17 USC 107. translating an entire work and hosting it on a monetized channel for profit is just commercial copyright infringement, and a US federal judge will unceremoniously hand over all your revenue to the owner of the original work every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26148641
>For some reason EN people seem to lack common sense
Then you haven't been looking into the JP and especially ID communities such as facebook. So your argument as about as retarded as the statement you are presenting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
Jesus fucking Christmas, even clippers are not being spared from being dominated by power-hungry corporates.
You might as well be paying the jizya at this rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26137814
Why should they care about that?

[Anonymous No.]

Based, as someone who actually clicks on the stream source lots of these clip nigs aren’t even doing that anymore or it’s to a different stream all together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26137744
They won't, but if something comes up they'll have a registry and away to contact the clipper, instead of just big dicking them with a takedown as step one. It's more community friendly.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if this is a reaction from that gura clip that didnt even involve gura but the clipper put her pic on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>26138346
Strikes fall off with time, and he may have even voluntarily removed them before taking the strike, so no a 3rd one wouldn't necessarily doom him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136571
Hello otakmori. Get fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>refrain from uploading clips before the source stream ends and the VOD is made public
Isn't that the whole point of Twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26138640
She's a Cover employee and not just a reddit mod, you stupid ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>clipniggers seething ITT
Cry more, squeal for me.

[Anonymous No.]

Clippers thinking they are anything other than SEAfaggots trying to leech of holos is peak comedy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26151623
more likely they are dramacucks from the farms that are malding

[Anonymous No.]

>>26149327
it's the other way around.
You think you're protected by fair use but Japanese company don't care about your fair use and this is them telling you that.

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>>26152071
That's not how laws work. I suggest you go read up on them.

>>26150826
Clips aren't the entire work though. They're only snippets, often times not even a solid block of consecutive time.

And it's easy enough to get around it. Just start doing compilations.

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>>26147933
Holy shit I hate non-educated people like you.
There are studies for EVERYTHING out there you retard.
There's studies about how using toilet paper makes your asshole grow hair.
Just because something has been "studied" doesn't mean it's going to be true or founded.

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>>26136571
These retards you're trying to defned, ,95% of the times, never put the original link nor the title of the stream in the description. If they don't comply to something that simple we don't need these retards in the community. These fuckers need to die and nothing else

[Anonymous No.]

>>26137083
Careful with that word anon, some SEA"friends" can report you rightfully and you can take a 1 to 3 days vacation due to that. Happened to me and other people already, just for mentioning that specific word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26141102
N-Nousagi TL is pretty cute though... Wouldn't want her to disappear like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26152558
>There's studies about how using toilet paper makes your asshole grow hair.
yeah but does it confirms anything?
the ones that confirms that shit I said is not just one study, it's an amalgam of knowledge of various fields that together can get that conclusion
anyway I won't even bother using google translate for a bait thread to reply someone who don't even read 4chan faq to know about sage

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>>26138640
Shut the fuck up Otakmori

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>>26147933
>the botfags screamed so much that real people went to check her streams lmao
no, /vt/ doesn't have that much influence. Numbers bring numbers, that's why people got curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26153103
you must be malicious or a retard to say such thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>26153281
what does that have to do with anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
>OTAKMORI
Why do people keep bullying this guy when he is not nowhere near the worst clipper out there

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
GET FUCKED SEAFAGS clippers!

[Anonymous No.]

>>26153389
Just because he's not the worst doesnt mean he's better.
Plus he's baiting a lot and doesn't give a fuck about many things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26153389
Because of precedence. He literally spread so much misinformation Cover shit on him once before and told him to stop when the hololive girls in particular started wondering why western people were talking about shit that didn't happen or make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26137812
That comes from the fact that what is controversial to one person is a selling point for another. But if Hololive has no interest in selling what people are being attracted to, then it's no loss to get rid of it. Clipfags aren't even real customers most of the time.

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>>26139322
well you said so yourself they are retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>26154853
Just because idiots like you, otakmori, have to actually be considerate of the shit you upload doesn't mean it's people defending companies.

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>>26136478
This is honestly a brilliant move:
> legitimize and reward good clippers
> drama clippers and shit clippers have to leave Holo or else
> drama and shit moves elsewhere
I see this as an absolute win

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
Why are people making a big deal out of this? 99% of Hololive clips don't violate these guidelines. Almost nothing will change, you'll still have shitty SEAsubs with shitty SEAtranslations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26157075
>99% of Hololive clips don't violate these guidelines.
The issue is, the ones that are most watched/circulated do violate it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26152287
>>26149327
you're talking about legal shit, which is besides the point because youtube is not a court of law and if Cover says that your video violates their copyright youtube will just take it down without a second glance. You CAN fight the decision in court, but good luck paying for the legal fees, and even if you do in the 6 months to years it takes for the stuff to shake out in the courts that video is going to stay off youtube.

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>>26157513
no they actually don't, nothing has changed content wise other than explicitly allow monetization and explicitly requesting for a link to the original stream. This shit doesn't even affect otakumori because apart from the clipper registration stuff the only thing that this document changes is make explicit what cover will do if you fall out of these guidelines

[Anonymous No.]

all holoclipper channels should be culled tbqh

[Anonymous No.]

>>26149327
You know fair use has to be established in a court of law, right? IP owners still retain the right to claim infringement on their works and if you have no money or time for a court case to establish a fair use defense of your work, you're out of luck.

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>>26152780
If find baffling how in this trash dump of a board you can aggressively attack, spam, trash, harass, raid vtubers and vtuber companies (the actual main focus of the board) but a mild insult to these people gets instant banned, all while they spam the catalog everyday with the same anti and bait posts, of which faggot mods are fully aware considering they get (rarely) deleted.

/vt/ mods are fucking trash and need to be replaced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26159933
Not your hugbox, don't like it? Then fuck off to reddit and trannycord if you want a safe space

[Anonymous No.]

>>26138557
There's the funny kind of out-of-context, and there's the kind that starts drama. This is about the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26137702
>3 strikes in the same 90-day period results in your channel being permanently removed from YouTube

[Anonymous No.]

>>26137840
Try watching streams. They do.
And Kiara even commisioned one for her outfit reveal just four days ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26136478
What I'm curious about this is whether after this Hololive will spam clips takedown to channels that are not registered to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>26137812
Hololive is talent centric, as has been shown with Coco and Rushia controversies can lead to major repercussions for the talent and the company as a whole, so the more they avoid those controversies the better.

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>>26152558
I love watching retards like you pretend to be smart