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25998079 No.25998079 [Reply] [Original]

What do you think? Is it because japanese people are more passionate about idol culture and the seiso image?

>> No.25998541

yeah

>> No.25998711

>>25998079
>Moona survives religion yab
>ollie survives many yabs
>gura survives boyfriend yab
>mori survives lean yab
Yeah

>> No.25998827

>>25998079
>more passionate about idol culture and the seiso image?
Irrelevant. EN and ID aren't (as far as we know) breaking NDAs like Mike did

>> No.25998918

>>25998827
Oh I forgot about this
>iofi survives NDA yab

>> No.25998928

>>25998079
the real question is: are HoloID and HoloJP resistant to cancel culture?

Im not talking about an n-word slip but like if Moona just started chucking gays off of a rooftop or some JP kept calling Biden an old pedo retard, would Cover graduate them?

>> No.25998951

>>25998079
No, it's because the Japanese are extremely autistic and have a shame culture that doesn't exist in either Indonesia or the West. Japanese people get fired for the stupidest shit and they just take it like bitch ass niggas

>> No.25999049

>>25998928
No, but
They will be forced to apologize

>> No.25999144

>>25998951
Why doesn't the idol industry unionize?
Actually, do japs even have unions?

>> No.25999221

>>25998079
Holos make a ton of money and have no real reason to want to leave
Hololive wants to promote a family feeling among the talents for the benefit of their audience, and has no incentive to graduate anyone

>> No.25999229

>>25999049
ok what if a dono goes "X says trans rights!" and the holo flat-out says "no i dont support that"?

Theres no way they should have to apologize for something so inoffensive, but i feel like cover would make them do it idk

>> No.25999302

>>25998928
Yes. Take Coco and HoloCN as an example.

>> No.25999310

>>25998928
Reine would cover up anything for Moona. JP would have to apologize. If they did something worse like insult the Japanese Emperor they would have to retire and commit ritual suicide or flee the country.

>> No.25999364

>>25999229
2 week suspension for anyone dumb enough to do that.

>> No.25999443

>>25999221
So if Rushia didn't leak her company to her boyfriend but the discord yab happened anyway she wouldn't graduate is what you are saying?

>> No.25999449

>>25999364
How is that dumb? Especially if they are religious, you shouldnt be forced to be silent about your beliefs and allow weird people on the internet to make degen rumors about you.

>> No.25999511

>>25999229
Well, try to make a more realistic situation first off. There's no way a holo would handle it like that. See Gura for example.

>> No.25999546

>>25999443
People forgot really quickly that Cover's first move was to release a statement that was effectively defending her, throwing themselves on the fire to say that their talents were free to their own lives. This isn't the first boyfriend yab either, the company is incompetent as fuck but all signs have always pointed to them doing right by their girls, even the Mel shit.

But the leaks were a huge danger to their other talents.

>> No.25999609

>>25999546
I did forgot about that.

>> No.25999844

>>25999511
We arent talking about Westerners, people brainwashed since birth to believe in freedom and trained to keep our mouths shut about the homo state.

Lets keep it simple for you and imagine a Saudi branch of Hololive. Would cover graduate them for saying something normal, even required, according to their culture? All because homos in the US get mad?

>> No.25999933

>>25999449
Is she also allowed to talk about her 50 year old husband that she's had since she was a teenager?

>> No.26000049

>>25999229
They would just not read the SC or not address the part that says that, obviously.

>>25999844
I'll let you know my opinion once the idol company opens up an Arabian branch

>> No.26000086

>>25999933
Lets say she does. Would Cover fold to Western feminist pressure and graduate her?

>> No.26000165

>more passionate about idol culture and seiso image.
You won the biggest cope award. They'll leave once they a nice nest egg.

>> No.26000201

>>25999844
>Saudi
How retarded are you lmao

>> No.26000273

>>25999546
It was not remotely "throwing themselves on the fire" to make a basic statement saying it wasn't their business, and knowing anything about Rushia will tell you that if anything it made the situation worse because she felt like the company wouldn't vouch for her not having a boyfriend. I don't know how anyone outside Reddit still thinks this.

>> No.26000727

>>25999546
>People forgot really quickly that Cover's first move was to release a statement that was effectively defending her
Are you retarded
Nobody thought that statement was helpful
Here's what Rushia wanted:
>to keep her gachikoi
Here's what gachikoi wanted
>to know she was faithful
Here's what that statement did
>directly state, that they WON'T tell you
They could have stayed quiet
Instead, they went out of their way to say something opposed to people caring about her IRL status
But that was never what fucking mattered

>> No.26000819

>>26000727
Not just that but Cover was threatening to sue her if she said anything more, when they sent out that PR statement

>> No.26000995

>>25999229
look up coco, newfag
they have new rules since then

>> No.26001139

>>26000727
>Here's what Rushia wanted:
>>to keep her gachikoi
Here's what Rushia did:
>talked to korekore
Here's what talking to him did:
>absolutely fucking nothing
She could have just tweeted from any of her accounts right away but she was more concerned with talking to korekore since she had been consulting with him about both mafumafu and her strife against some people inside hololive.
Addressing her gachikoi was never her priority. They never fucking mattered.

>> No.26001174

>>25998079

idol culture and seiso image? Bitch the only graduation JP actually ever had was because of fucking politics and Coco taking a noble dive for everyone else's sake. The rest just got fired because they violated their contracts.

>> No.26001288

>>25998079
Can't say about EN, but ID scene in general has a very low rate of graduation. Even after Nijisanji axed the Niji ID, NONE of their 19 livers decided to graduate.

It might be tied to the very low cost of living. Even if you're just a 2views vtuber with an average donations of less than $100 per month, you can still survive in ID. So there's no point in graduation because it can be your easy source of side income.

>> No.26001505

>>26001288 (me)
oh and about dramas and idol culture, dramas in ID happens rarely too. Even if they heppens, things will cool down by itself in a few days. Indonesian never take things too seriously.
And idol culture doesn't really exists in ID, only hardcore weebs believes in idol culture.

>> No.26001948

>>26001174
Yeah I'm retarded, didn't know the truth

>> No.26002238

>>25998918
qrd on this? What NDA?

>> No.26002686

>>25998711
>>Moona survives religion yab
Never happened

>> No.26003066

>>25998079
Anon, Rushia was fired, because she violated her NDA. Cover would've been sued by advertisers and other companies they have close business relationships with, if they kept her.

>> No.26003157

>>25999443
Yes. There would have been no reason. She didn't graduate anyway she got fired for breaching her contract.

>> No.26003210

>>25999449
You just ignore it. If you respond to every provocative message you see as an entertainer you're a fucking idiot.

>> No.26003360

>>25998079
Cover refuses to hold them to the same standard as as the japanese branch and it makes me seethe. I find it to be a very unfair rules for thee but not for me type situation like they all got the thumbs up to play the cringe gaijin card or some shit.

>> No.26003683

>>26001505
Kinda reminded how Haruka Nakagawa Ex-JKT48 said that she prefer the Entertainment culture in Indonesia compared to Japan because Indonesian actually more forgiving to Entertainer who had Scandals compared to Japan who literally witchhunt/bully the Entertainer to irrelevancy or suicide.

>> No.26003928

>>26003360
You're mad that Cover doesn't care about their side branches?

>> No.26004063

>>26003360
Anon, if you go to a McDonalds in different countries the food will be different. It's the same damn thing. If you expected the same exact product in different places that's foolish of you.

>> No.26007507
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>>26002686
Newfag.....
Lurk her old tweets

>> No.26008114

>>26003066
Nope she was fired because it was her third strike.

First she leaked coco graduation.
Second she gave access to the girls private discord to one of her friend
Third breaking NDA.

The shit with Rushia been brewing a while.

>> No.26008425

>>25998711
>bigmac nothingburgers
kektardfagcuck

>> No.26009161

>>26004063
Ether enforce the rules fairly or make new rules everyone can fallow don't baby the foreigners don't give them special treatment. They know what they signed up for when they signed the contracts japan is about the group over the individual. Always has been that way with the work culture no special snowflakes period why cover pussies out and uses fuzzy cuffs is beyond me.

>> No.26009258

>>26009161
>If you expected the same exact product in different places that's foolish of you
Didn't even read it, of course there are double standards that's called catering to different sensibilities

>> No.26009650

>>26009258
That's such horseshit you have to be a EOP nigger to think like this i except your concession nigger.

>> No.26009708

>>26009650
>wah nigger nigger
Nice counterargument anon

>> No.26010060

>>26009708
>EOP gonna EOP thinking japan gives a shit about catering to different cultural sensibilities oh wait they don't its called cultural assimilation and its all japan wants from foreigners so assimilate EOP

>> No.26011712

What IS idle culture?

>> No.26011763

>>26009650
>i except your concession
He may be EOP, but you are ESL

>> No.26011831

>>25998711
>gura and ame survive boyfriend yabs
>meanwhile rushia gets murdered for a boyfriend yab
yes ENs and IDs are def graduation immune

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26013068

>>26011763
I will ponder this while i am busy crushing marines plump badonker later tonight anon kek

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