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>>25773453*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp/>https://vtuber-ch.com/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>>25773453Source?
It rebounded really hard, lmao
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>114,132: Salome (Nijisanji)>108,308: Salome (Nijisanji)>71,446: Miko (Hololive)>63,628: Masaru (Nijisanji)>33,418: Watame (Hololive)>23,162: Gura (Hololive)>22,659: Shion (Hololive)>16,839: Ange (Nijisanji)>16,305: Ayame (Hololive)>14,703: Haneru (774 Inc.)>14,182: Koyori (Hololive)>12,567: Met (774 Inc.)>12,557: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>12,355: Hololive (Hololive)>12,275: Kanae (Nijisanji)>12,081: Fauna (Hololive)>11,766: Fubuki (Hololive)>11,521: Subaru (Hololive)>10,647: Kronii (Hololive)>10,541: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>>25773547>JUNE 2022 GOLD1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 72) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 75) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 76) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku>PER COMPANY5x: Nijisanji3x: Hololive>PER STREAMER5x: Salome1x: Haachama, Mio, Watame2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY106x: Hololive44x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER17x: Pekora16x: Aqua12x: Miko11x: Kuzuha9x: Salome7x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>25773547>JUNE 2022 GOLD1) Aki (Hololive) - 72,2512) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,6963) Fubuki (Hololive) - 48,4854) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 56,6075) Miko (Hololive) - 98,8586) Watame (Hololive) - 77,7937) Miko (Hololive) - 71,446>PER COMPANY6x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER2x: Miko1x: Aki, Haachama, Fubuki, Kuzuha, Watame2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY108x: Hololive40x: Nijisanji7x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER17x: Pekora16x: Aqua14x: Miko12x: Kuzuha7x: Subaru, Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Salome, Suisei, Toya3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu2x: Aki, Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Fubuki, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta.
>>25773512What the hell.I don't understand /biz/ at all...
>>25773512>Deadcat bounceKek
>>25773453that's one long filename
Nijisanji literally cannot stop winning.
>>25773608Based>>25773600IPO scam
>>25773512botted stocks
>>25773678If it's an IPO scam you are going to have to get used to her dominating CCV for at least the next half a year considering none of the major shareholders are allowed to sell until then.
>>25773512>literally just starts going up in a straight linesus
>>25773512Looks like a worm
>>25773512hey, it's just like their streams!
>>25773512I cant /biz/. Tell me what this mean anon?
>>25773512it rebounded to no trade volumes people realized wtf they were doing after lunch and a wank
>>25773321Man, you're fucking dumb. You really think that these people will blatantly cash out on an IPO right away without so much as anyone that's not retarded looking at it launching an investigation?
>>25773851Nijisanji will collapse in 2 weeks
>>25773995Fuck off to the catalog with your retarded /k/ tier posts, faggot.
>>25774066nijiseething
>>25773932This is the thread that said Salome would only get botted until the IPO and that she would graduate after a million because it was all just a ruse to pump the stock price. But they aren't even going to be able to sell for six months so unless they keep going strong none of that value will be realized.
>>25773321that's not bad for lock-out period for major holders. what about the rest of the insiders though? it would take a while for major holders to unload considering the size of the public offering anyway.it still helps that they had a strong open on the IPO but that should normalize in a month or so. they just need to sustain the hype until nijifes
>>25774131of course this thread doesn't know shit
>>25773504Search salome fgo
Salome confirmed to dominate Holo for the next half a year at least. 2022 is looking like a free win for Niji.
>>25774394salami who?
>>25774131Blatant pump and dumps are illegal. To get away with it, you need plausible deniability if a court case comes your way, or at least follow the rules. Right now AnyColor is massively overvalued for the type of business and the revenue that it generates. The people that are calling it an IPO scam say it is a scam because they're massaging the numbers and giving a bunch of people that put money in an exit strategy on a relative short term... just not instant like you and the delusional retards make it out to be.
>>25774372So that's the real salome? The Whore of Babylon?
>>25774504https://grandorder.wiki/Salome#4th
>>25774489>they're not doing X becuase its illegal>but they're doing thing Y that would also be illegalHow does this shit make sense to you? Being intentionally misleading about the value of your company to potential investors would also be illegal you know...
>>25774504You're quite confused. This is the whore of babylon
>>25773504https://grandorder.wiki/Salome#4th
>>25773512Would it actually be a good idea to buy this?
>>25773851It's going too high. They will be forced to terminate low performing livers to increase the P/A ratio, otherwise investors will be turned off.
>>25774131>>25774489I mean, I've already told people that they'll sell at least after Nijifest. We got a whole summer of surprises from them to drive the numbers high, wave 6 and new JP gen, Koshien, ROFMAO. Even if they don't sell it, a gacha game is the best thing that they could do to pump massive numbers out.
>>25774882Just buy the index. You are not good enough to beat the market.
>>25775010>terminate streamer>Lower asset>Increase P/APut some brain into your shitpost please.
>>25774768Yes, and they basically did that. But they are legally correct since they used statistics to "prove" their statements until courts state the opposite. Scams don't stop being scams because they're legal. Otherwise, there wouldn't be such things as predatory lending, high frequency trading or dumb shit like insurance premiums at excessively high values.Welcome to the financial world. The economy is the gambling house.
>>25773453TWITCH TALLY OF 07 June: >>25743352 TWITCH TALLY OF 08 June: >>25743417 JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD: >>25743472
>>25775113180 days is nearly next year.
Were there any close examples of an entertainment company going IPO with a market evaluation of more than $300M that succeeded? Other requirements would include that it started as a small start-up with a few millions as investment, or earning net profits of a few million every year. I'd want to look up K-pop idol or JP idol companies that blew up later after work.
>>25775312Jesus, wait at least a 3 days for it to stabilizeThis is still too early
>>25775140What you mean is they showed their company in the best light possible while not actually misrepresenting anything or misleading anyone. The entire balance sheet is there for people to see. If this problem was so blatant you don't think that anyone outside of a few nerds that hate the company on an anonymous imageboard would have pointed it out by now with the shockingly high valuation the company currently has?
>>25775433Nah, I'm just trying to find examples for later. A quick search showed me that ATM with 5.5k yen, Anycolor's shares is worth the same as YG entertainment, black pink's company.
This is just pathetic.
>>25775502yes I'm smarter than investors cause im not buying Riku's bags
>>25775502Yes, because investors are fucking retarded. They lose money on bad investments all the time for exactly these reasons. Their balance sheet blatantly contradicts their presentation because they hid all the numbers and adjusted all the graphs with creative interpretations of the dataSome of us actually have an education in business, all but lying to your investors so you can take their money and run away with it is normal
>>25775602Dude needed a raid and a Z to reach 9k then the retention falls off kek
She's gonna beat Gura to 4M, right?
>>25774882If you are asking you shouldn't be trading. One jap shill on twitter was saying it will be bigger than Toyota. If that doesn't tell you about psychopathic NFT/scamcoin-tier traders who are trying to cash in on naïve, deluded fans, then I don't know what will.Look at the past EPS and look at some other companies EPS, look around the neighbourhood and compare to UUUM's EPS, and decide for yourself.The wise among us will be shorting at anything above 4500, but there's still trading restrictions keeping things pants only for now. The seed rounds bought for approx 200 Yen and will be aiming for probably above 2000, and their volume (currently restricted from trading) when it comes online will be bigger than the IPO itself. They will drip stock in to avoid crashing the price with no survivors but currently they are slated to make almost 30x profit on initial investment. roru. rumao.
>>25775644they mistimed the Z bump, woopsie
>>25775644Get raid and get "Z"ed?
>>25775644Did he get a raid?
>>25775659>Some of us actually have an education in businessSo it is just you and a few people that hate Nijisanji that happen to have this business education and nobody else? Where are all the other people calling this stuff out? Surely it can't just be you that has a business education.
>>25775602I do not like this man but the title is clearly a jokeAlso I'll give him credit for playing a "game" instead of finding a number to celebrate
>>25775676What's the % of stocks owned by foreign investors or non JP investors for Anycolor?
>>25775745yeah from shu's 4k stream
what does it even mean to get "Z"ed? Is it a new kind of botting that briefly removes viewers after a spike?
>>25775763I was shitposting about it but it looks scummy without any business education so it was honest shitposting
>>25775845it's a new bug that results in a Z shape on the graph
>>25775763The Nijisanji fans on this board (who were already a minority and were pushed out by Luxiem/Noctyx fans, mostly young women) probably avoid this thread like the plague
>>25775763Man, why is it always tribalism with you idiots? Nijisanji has an IPO, nijisanji is pumping their stock price up by showing obviously manipulated graphs like this one, and you're saying we don't know shit because we're not investors when we have fucking eyes and so do you.
>>25775763Have you heard about The Wolf of Wall Street right?The movie may had over exaggerated the vices but the scams were real. Granted, I doubt Rikku is some japanese Jordan Belfort and more like investors autism play part on this.
>>25775780It's not a joke. "First time streamer" would be a joke. That's just begging.
>>25775796~18.5% Chinese (inclusive 1% HK)~6.2% Singaporean~0.6% US (they paid MOI Inc, the office / studio fitout company, partly in shares which MOI hold under a Micronesian shell company. US company offshoring profits? ANBARIBABOO!!!)
>>25776005What was manipulated here? I'm retarded
>>25776102Do we have Cover's version of this?
Has any jp used the raiding feature yet? All I'm seeing is the ENs using it, both niji and holo
>>25776065It just looks like he's channelling a desperate 1view, the real funny shit is any of Mysta's titles
>>25776102>~18.5% Chinese (inclusive 1% HK)never deal with the chinese
>>25775763I'm not a vet but I know what a dog is
>>25776114operating margin, they show a very short line and then a tall line and say it multiplied by x30, when if you had the full picture you'd be able to see it was a small bump and they're mostly making as much money as they spend
>>25775799How the fuck did he lose 2/3rds of the raid in 30 minutes? Even a HoloEN to HoloID raid held at 50% after over an hour.
>>25776171We have Cover's list of major investors by their own admission on their website, but how much they own is an unknown afaik.
>>25776263HoloBox is powerful. Also, NijiEN burns so much audience good will trying to exploit their box that it actually undermines it and causes the box to weaken
Have you guys even heard of fiduciary duty? The major shareholders are legally obliged to make anycolor look as good as possible and those slides are just that. Open ANY companys' slides and you'd see equally manipulated data. Can't wait to grudgepost when cover does theirs.
>>25776263because they're retards with the raid. shu was playing valorant with other nijien. his audience is mostly en/jp. they don't watch vox, luca & mysta.
>>25775678no, but gura would have loved it if she did
>>25776350You'll be waiting for a years lol
>>25776350You seem to be thinking that we're not aware of this.I still value cover at $500M USD
>>25776346I remember a raid onto Reimu held a good amount and Uki onto Millie today stuck but I have no idea what's going on with Elira and Luca. The raids are about as impactful as an average Twitch raid with those two
>>25776350I doubt Cover will ever go publicand that's a good thing
>>25776350we've seen last year's report for cover. waiting for the new fy to drop.
>>25775845The new pattern for Niji where the stream bursts up high and immediately sheds like 80% of that growth
>>25776173the nijis are being retarded about it, sending people into completely unrelated streams/content. not surprising jps aren't using it
>>25775644so NijiEN is just Vox and Mysta, even with a Shu raid into a Z jump Luca didnt pass Kronii
does anyone have the link to the thread with all of the superchat combine for this year so far?
>>25776513>jps aren't using itit's culturalthey's think it's bothersome or rude or something
>>25776572>rudethey're right
>>25776350don't expect schizo neets here to know anything about business
I'm enjoying Melissa's cover of Hysteric Night Girl quite a bit. Thanks to whichever anon it was that recommended the songs to get before her channel got wiped.
>>25776350cover will never go public so long as yagoo is a part of the company, so at least that'll never happen
>>25776171https://thebridge.jp/en/2020/05/cover-jpy700m-fundinghttps://www.crunchbase.com/organization/cover-corporation/company_financialsno, no actual breakdown of share ownership. Basically all jap company names though. >The funding comes from Hakuhodo DY Ventures, i-nest capital, Chiba Dojo, Dimension, SMBC Venture Capital, angel investors in addition to existing investors including Strive (previously known as GREE Ventures). The amount also includes loans from Mizuho Bank.>For the startup, this follows their seed round funding back in August of 2017 (approx. 30 million yen from Mizuho Capital, TLM, and angel investors) and their series A round back in June of 2018 (approx. 200 million yen from GREE Ventures, OLM Ventures, and Mizuho Capital)We know cover has had 3 funding rounds. Covers third round was 700,000,000 JPY which is coincidentally the same as Niji's second round.Cover has funded by externals to about 1 billion yen so far, whereas niji pre-IPO was funded to about 3 billion yen.
>>25776572>>25776591desu I don't think it should be in certain contexts. Like for example, Fubuki shilling a concert on the main hololive channel on her stream, she could just raid into it instead of telling her chat to go and check it out
speaking of zedthe spike does not seem to go beyond the local tabbed-in maximum
>>25776518Mysta is barely able to keep it up, and has to pull every numberfag trick in the book to get a good median. His real numbers (what he historically gets without clickbait titles/celebration shit) are around Luca's Vox's audience is almost all Chinese and don't really care about any of his streams that aren't BFE. Outside of the superchat tally NijiEN were never a real threat, just material for SEAfriends to shitpost with. Pomu is still the leader in my heart
>>25776741This looks like it was drawn, what the absolute fuck where did you find this? This is absurdly terrible
>>25776777>Mysta is barely able to keep it up, and has to pull every numberfag trick in the book to get a good median. His real numbers (what he historically gets without clickbait titles/celebration shit) are around Luca'if all of his streams are click bait numberfag then that's his real numbers.His audience love these kind of content
>>257768265+ hour Apex graph
>>25776826nah that's typical apex graph. people tab-out between game. most apex watcher try to join the game. so they tab out of the stream into apex to join the lobby.
>>25776741lulls in activity when he's in/out of game?
>>25776826holy newfaggtfo
>>25775602>This is just patheticUnpog*
Samurai hasn't put her waiting room yet. dumb bitch.
> there's actually a /biz/ threadlmao
>>25777027
What if the real technology they're selling is the undetectable viewbots and sub bots they're using on Salome
>>25777027I don't really use cringe in my vocabulary but this is worthy of it
>>25777027Have you ever heard of pekofy?
>>25777270you just go to some poor place, bring a bunch of cheap-ass phones, and hand them out to all the starving people, telling them they have to watch this anime girl for an hour if they want food
>>25777320but imagine the potential in using Anycolor's shadow technology to make any streamer an instant success, promoted by youtube's twitter account itself
>>25776777shut the fuck up Pomu
>>25777270It's not even hard to dodge the botting issue. People talk about it as if youtube bot detection is fucking magic, all you have to do is have the bot view a few other videos at random, make a comment on a different random stream, and then have them show up to that stream without entering from off site, and the youtube algorithm will think they're organicBot detection is fucking hard
>>25777378it would be hilarious if they kept doing solo debuts where every single one hit 100k+ viewers and managed to retain those numbers for the follow-up streams, but salami is probably unique sadly
>>25777468I feel bad for whoever has to debut next in niji
>>25777532who's still in VTA?
>>25776409You might need an actual EN to dethrone her, JP or ID doesn't mean much.
>>25777572The dudes and maybe the one girl that got left out.
>>25777532I honestly feel bad for the Nijis in general. They don't deserve the unfathomable amount of shitposting those normie tourists are going to spread around to the rest of them
>>25777572A bunch of unremarkable dudes, a gay shotacon 5ch liked, and Roco who was basically Nene from what I saw of her
>>25776350Cover has no need to go public though. You go public for 1 of 2 reasons. Either you’re raising money for expansion or the private owners want to cash out your stock. Cover has by Yagoos words enough cash to pay for 10 years without going bankrupt and Yagoos shown no interest in going public. Massaging the numbers is absolutely something everyone does at their IPO though
>>25777646i hope sora will still be in holo in 10 years
>>25777696That's kind of the beauty of Vtubing. You can more or less outlast flesh and bone talent, especially the idol ones that normally fail to go mainstream.
>>25777696Everyone will be a hag by then
>>25777646Agreed.It's very, very, VERY, VERY, EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to be an honest man in a land of crooks, and the financial world is so crooked one would be forgiven for thinking it was a tesseract. It's why going public is such a horrid idea unless you're planning cashing out or truly have no other option to get money, as the tentacles of the financial world will utterly rape you in ways unknown to you until years down the line.
>>25777468would be hard to recreate since she filled the ojou-like type niche. Although still hoping for more kinds from AnyColor
>>25777799Sounds amazing.
And the articles are out: OVERBLOWN IPO, DUMP IMMEDIATELYhttps://gamebiz.jp/news/350798>market cap is 165.2bn>UUUM was 30.3 bn, Amuse was 38.5 bn, Avex was ~53 bn>ah, but you see, nijisanji is unique, they are taking this magical experience worldwide!So true, so true, I just invested my life savings. Sayonara to wageslavery and shalom to Salomecoin... witness me
>>25777799That’s the best part
>>25777799Anon you just said something good, just like wine it gets better with time
>>25777910>anon discovers trending topics
>>25777902Both a public and private company bow to shareholders and investors. I dont see why the internet has this fear of public companies.Bethesda and Epica were private companies and they still wanted to make a ton of money. it really doesnt matter
>>>/biz/49474455Insider trading is apparently locked to 6 months, so I don't think they'll be able to dump it.Unless the stock remains that high for the next 6 months.
>>25777532>>25777572Next are likely to be voltage. something like this that was trademarked. Maybe in 2 months or more. There's still 6 on the current VTA so they can debut a few of those if they dont find something out of nowhere like salome
>>25777944If was feeling like a gambling man, I'd set up a heavy short for say.....6 months down the line. You know, around the time when those who are currently in the locked out period are allowed to sell their shares. Of course, I am but a humble wagecuck and have no savings to my name, otherwise I'd throw a few thousand dollars at it just to prove a point.
https://youtu.be/0Mjf67V-_5QHagsmith opening membership.
>>25777944anon...
>>25778130Wait she hasn't yet? I would've thought they'd all have membership by now
>>25777944Still dk why they were overevaluated this much as compared to many other companies, even more so, when the competitor is much more bigger than them. They might've earned 12billion this year, but Hololive already earned more than that last year with less members.
>>25778025It really comes down to who's investing and who's at the head of the company. Its just going public magnifies the potential for problems, but you're right in that private companies fuck around and find out all the time.
>>25778223The probably could of open it earlier, but choose to wait.
>>25778261hypethe day traders don't care about fundamentals. you ride the daily volatility on both sides.
>>25778223Delays tend to be for one or two reasons1. Waiting for all 3 to be ready together2. Not 1, but emotes and such that were commissioned not ready yet. Since Kobo opened hers a while ago, it definitely looks like Zeta and Kaela were just waiting on their commissions to finish.
why hasn't iroha open her 3d debut waiting room yet?
>>25778342I wonder where the price will settle in 6 months, that's when the fireworks start as the big shareholders will be free to unload.
>>25778508Niji has to keep their numbers up and avoid any yabs for the next 6 months. Tell me how the second part is gonna go for them
>>25778562Judging by their past record... poorly.
>>25778084I kind of doubt that the plan was to dump it as soon as they could anyway.It kind of looks to me like they are making a play to appear like a bigger dog than they are until that becomes the reality.Salome is pretty much the embodiment of this gambit.Boost her CCV and sub count right from the start to absurd levels to keep people talking about her and potentially bring in new people.The bandwagon effect takes over and people start to gravitate towards her because they see big numbers.Big numbers bring in bigger numbers until they've successfully manufactured a breakout star.
>>25778025Going public increases the risk by 100x you get someone that has no business in the field getting into a position of power and removing the competent people.
>>25778508Is this a common occurrence in the business world? When the company you've invested grown big, you force them to go IPO where you'll sell your shares later ten folds. I'd want to believe that anycolor could do big projects with the money, but they're so top heavy and JP tourist dependent that it looks hard.
>>25778592qrd please
>>25778562Kazuha will graduate, Mito will die and Tamaki will be arrested for manslaughter.
>>25778636Investors cashing out is basically the entire purpose of Venture capitalists. What, you think someone giving you 5m when you're starting your business is doing it out of the goodness of their heart?
>>25778637There's at least 1 niji yabe/graduations every month for the past year. Prove me wrong.
>>25778637>Handling of the nipple issue causing problems with sponsors>Plagiarism of a fashion brand forcing them to cancel a planned merch lineAre the recent issues
>>25777320Bruh just view farm bro , gmail and IP changers
>>25777646going public would destroy the current cover's ways of doing business and replace it with greedier and more calculated ways of wringing in every pinch of pennies from fans to appease the investors who demands growth every fucking quarter. it would suck out every SOVL left inside of hololive
>>25778261I think because their numbers were THAT good. 30% profit margin is insane. UUUM has a profit margin of 3.5%https://note.com/kojiro001/n/n43706ace6bdawriter-san does well to note the big risk to nijishares: yab machines.>[regarding the luca bgm yab]>if you read the back a little, you can guess that the reason why it occurs so often even though it is such a dangerous part is that the final liability part and damages are in the contract to go to the liver.Oh shit, the liver has to pay any damages? Luca... your liability insurance reps... not pog....>>25778636yes and no. as soon as you don't have a majority holding you lose total control, and the investors can apply more pressure for you to take it public. But you could buy them out with profits, or they can sell to other investors in the private equity market. Several early Nijisanji investors did the latter.
>>25778657And hoshikawa will join hololive
>>25776572you kinda need both parties to be REALLY good friends, and have some level of audience overlap for it to work in Japan.Okayu raiding Korone or vice versa could work.Fubuki raiding Mio or vice versa could work.Pekora raiding Azki... would be weird since there's very little audience overlap (and Peko would probably get JP flame).
>Salome's viewers doesn't match with both niji and holo's viewers >they're botted>Holo's views increases after Salome's streams >her viewers are just holo viewers explaining the high viewsWhat's our next reason holobros?
>>25778637For every single YAB hololive has suffered, and there were many, there were at least 3 YABs for Nijisanji
>>25778970>Holo's views increases after Salome's streamsby like 5k....
>>25778992>3x the members>3x the yabs
>>25778970Salome's viewers do not go to holos though, we have proof they just disappear
>>25778970a very minimal funnel, you retard
>>25778970>less than 10% of watchers move from Salome to other streams>"H-HOLOBROS?!"
>>25778025Private companies in the west that fail to go public (or are competing with something that the powers that be are in control of) will quickly find themselves deluged in false accusations to ruin their reputation (the thing that happened to MySpace, just as DARPA Lifelog/Facebook was expanding).It's akin to what happened to Japan with the Black Ships. They corner you and say "make your company not be private". And so they get IPO and they're bought up and ruined from within.Pretty sure it was something similar for Anycolor as well.
>>25777572iirc there was a leak about some new group in the works called "VOLTRON" or something equally chuuni.Pretty sure Salami caused them to get delayed so that they don't kill her hype.
>>25779026Yeah. And they all went to Watame, because she's similar to Salome in that she has very few casual viewer filters besides the fact that she does constant zatsudans and superchat reading. In 6 months, I wonder what numbers will look like if half of Salome's audience become converted into watamates
>>25776350Look at what he did to China, I think he probably doesn't care anymore, How many companies in the world dare to cut with China. Apple Microsoft ?
>>25778970>Holobros, holobronies, broniesAt least change it up schizo tranny, go back to your /mlp/
>>25778261>already earned more than that last year with less members.What? They earn 3 billion yen this year while cover only earn 1.7 billion yen last year iirc. And their total sale this year is 10 billion.
>>25778785yeahthey would kill Hololive longterm by squeezing it dry short termlike every gaming company that gets bought lately
>>25779076>Valve Corp. still standing
>>25779147>go back to your /mlp/But I'm already here at /vt/
>>25778637Just from the JP side -> Lulu graduation circumstances.> Roa still MIA after Meiro.> DLsite yab --> Overpriced ASMR.> Nippleman and the Lost Sponsorships.> Nijifest cancelled due to mass COVID outbreak among staff.> Monetized Elden Ring streams, violating FromSoft rules.> The above, but restreamed on Bilibili with monetization on.> Design for merch copied from existing fashion brands.> Merch quality degrading over time.> Melissa graduation circumstances + Instant Youtube + Twitter account nuking.From EN -> Vox's audience in general.> NijiEN discord leak.> Pufferfish off-cuck-collab.> Nina forcing the boys to be sexual "for the camera".> Luca vs Towa/Okayu copyright yab.> Vox audience stopping him from having ASMR collabs.> Death threats from Vox audience to Reimu.> Finana generalizing and shitting on her own audience.There's a reason nijiniggers latched on to Salome like a drowning man clawing at something to hold on to.
>>25778970>Holo's views increases after Salome's streamsnatural growth retard, the growth before her stream ended was just continuing as normal.
Predictions?
>>2577952570
>>25779252Believe it or not they had to play ball early on, before the control was shifted.And consoles were what mostly thrived during the early days, which is why they were mostly focussed on getting the foreign audience rather than the US based one.You see a push for PC gaming now, which coincides with the removal of that exclusivity power.
noel focused clipper turned into salome clipper nowhttps://youtu.be/Bik4bZ9us3Ihow long till sushi?
>Coco blowing up back 2020 gaining a lot of numbers while people not knowing vtubers>it's totally understandable and nothing sussy about it>Salome blowing up gaining a lot of numbers while vtubers already being a popular thing>it's sussy, IPO scam, bots and the zhangs>both of them blowing up was because of a crazy debut and continuous crazy streams What's the difference aside one being from holo and one being from nijisanji?
>>25779558Oh I believe it, any and all companies need revenue and since the console market was where it was they had to play ball until they found ground and was able to grow through their steam store.
>>25779525dumb bitch still no waiting room, 80k
>>25779617the difference is that you haven't an hero'd yet
>>25779597Sushi was a subaru main clipper then changed to miko.With miko having clippable content from WWE I doubt they will change in the near future.
>>25779617what's crazy about salome's streams?
>>25779617>Coco blowing up back 2020 gaining a lot of numbers while people not knowing vtubersI'll humor you since no one's taking your bait, d pray tell, can you please let us know how much did she "blow up", can you provide numbers?
>>25779617Salome just played RE 7 you retard. Her numbers have always been higher than everything else in the entire industry by an order of magnitude for what they should rightfully be compared to, and they don't make sense unless you make assumptions like 'there was just 100k people waiting for the 1 Vtuber to pull them in, they all go to sleep when she ends her stream, and also none of them use chat'
>>2577952565k
>>25779617Aside from you being a retard, Coco didn't blew up, her numbers were on the high side, but compared to other niji members, they were low. Coco only became big in Hololive, not the entire vtubersphere.
>>25779597>45k in 2 daysNGMI
>>25778992It's all relative though. The last two major yab cost hololive two of their biggest SC earners
>>25779107It was VOLTACTIONhttps://patent-i.com/tm/applicant/%EF%BC%A1%EF%BC%AE%EF%BC%B9%EF%BC%A3%EF%BC%AF%EF%BC%AC%EF%BC%AF%EF%BC%B2%E6%A0%AA%E5%BC%8F%E4%BC%9A%E7%A4%BE/
>>25779729>her numbers were on the high side, but compared to other niji members, they were low. Coco only became big in Hololive, not the entire vtubersphere.Found the loser nijinigger. You just can't lie like that
>>25779671https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQveWRj0u5E she heard you annon.
>>25779786And? Gachifarming has been honed to a science now, as can be seen from how Chloe had immediately used all the tricks in the book to convert Orca into her paypig.
I don't really give a shit about numbers but I do love some misery, so I hope that Salome gets into a yab and her numbers tank hard. Not because I want her to fail but because I want to see the reactions here.
>>25779820rightfully deserved for all those ffxiv streams
>>25779811Found the larping schizo, not providing numbers when asked for
>>25779846Literally no one here cares even a little bit about Salome. Anyone pretending to be invested in her success or failure is larping, the only real posters in this thread are the ones ignoring her
>>25779890Just when did I get asked for numbers
>>25779846that's the most important thing anon.
>>25779863salome would be at 1k waiting at this pointsub 50k for gozaru
>>25779932>Coco blowing up back 2020 gaining a lot of numbers while people not knowing vtubersProvide us a metric and not your anecdotes schizo tranny, this is the /#/ thread after all
>>25779827at least she was honest about what she wanted from day 1
Another Crane Game collab for hololive with SubaLunahttps://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000703.000030268.html
>>25779525200k
>>25780051should've used salome instead of these literal who
>>25780008>everyone who goes against me is the same person!!!Holy shit
>>25779157>>25779157Anon Net profits from offical goods go to pocket virtaul no Cover , if holomem want to make a goods, the agency would find market and promoting them goods. and ofc most of the merch cost product isp from holomem pocket. and the most profit would go to them.Such as Net profit pack set Akirose 4Th anv = 300,000$Cut 10-15% for marketing cover30,000-45,000$ > to Cover 255,0000-270,000$ > to AKI(investment)Net profit Vox half anv = 300,000$90% to anycolor (investment) = 270,000 $Share 10% for employee (Vox) = 30,000$
>>25779617> Comparing the timeless kino of Asacoco> to fucking RE7retard
>>25780051I cant believe the baby managed to groom shuba so quickly
>>25780161I can, she started out by walking into Subaru's house and demanding a bubblebath. Luna does not fuck around with the grooming
>>25780160>timeless kino
>>25779793
Salome spammer, I know you have a twitter post of Salome saved somewhere on your phone or something, post it for me please.
>>25779525120k
Checks time, oh it's the afternoon in SEA that explains the samefagging schizo tranny here, unfortunately no one seems to be biting, you going to ban people for being "off topic" again?
>>25780293t. self race hating seamonkey
how many gold holo can get this month? at least 3 from Holox 3D debut ( Laplus, Chloe, and Iroha )is there any upcoming event / celebration?
>>25779711>>491k
>>25780346Come again? Did your mind spaz out there? Are you okay? Need some meds?
>>25780327Wwe miko Pekora comebackMarine comebackSuisei comebackKorone comebackLui HBDGura HBDGura 4M SubIroha HBDETCSana HBD ( not confirm)
>>25775581YG is known for collapsing lately, their only biggest income is from blackpink, bigbang is on hiatus, ikon and winner is not giving good numbers, and their newest boygroup, treasure, is a total flop, so yea that company is as good as dead without blackpink
>>25780499>Suisei comebackwait this month?
>>25780499Aqua ?
>>25775581Hololive = Big Hit
>>25780499>Gura HBD>Gura 4M Subanon... those will be on the same stream. she's not going to do two celebrations
>>25780293>it's the afternoon in SEAit's 3pm and you already complained that it's sea hours? check your head
>>25780604with sub 40k ccv
>>25780499which of those will even reach 90k?
>>25780698all of them? Hololive isn't a one talent company unlike niji
What were the Holo ENs that streamed today ccv?I know Amelia and Fauna were streaming
>>25780698Definitely not Mito's
3D chibi is unironically a debuff or neutral for myth
>>25781010novelty has long worn away.
>>25779729Dude what, she was top chuuba by pretty much every metric for a good few months there. Asacoco especially was a consistent 20K every morning at a time when 10K was still huge. There was nothing comparable at the time. You even had Nijisanji members ending their own streams to watch Asacoco as well as several Asacoco-inspired shows like Utako's thing and Debi's ARK News (another Coco influence right there). For a period it was like everything in the whole scene revolved around her and we haven't really had a comparable thing happen since.
>>25780895here's all the streams from HoloEN
>>25779423A lot of those aren't "yab". Melissa graduation is her own choice, including youtube and twitter account. We also know the reason she did, which is stupid as she never would own any music as Melissa.anyway, most of what you mentioned aren't relevant, even more for EN with the exception of Vox/Reimu thing
>>25781159>irys didnt make the tally
>>25781159Did Kronii decide to unnerf herself? She's hitting 10k more often than not
>>25781186because shes moving in like a week, enjoy seeing her vanish for awhile.
>>25781177Wrong. Cope.
So many of the original holofags just do NOT care for the ENs haha.
>>25779729> Coco_first_monetization_stream.mp4
>>25781200Sigh...I will miss her voice.Any info about how long will it take?I think the most unfortunate news for HoloEN is Mumei getting covid (possibly), so no off-collab kino, and no idea when she can be back to NA.
>>25781336unsure i just know its soon, you can probably ask infinity or global for how long move will be as they might have someone who keeps closer tabs on that.
>>25781306Glad we found the representative of all Hololive fans, some random guy from a comments section with not even 200 likes.
>>25779786rushia is now replaced by chloe as the sc queen (chloe's birthday sc this year is higher than rushia's last year), most of the holox are "sc queen potential" too (mainly chloe, iroha, and koyori). That's what happen when the popularity between the talents in your company are spread out and not focusing one or two high performing talents only
>>25781306You know you're free to go back to /jp/ at any time yea? You don't even contribute anything number related, you just spew garbage everywhere.
>>25778855for real tho, what's with hoshikawa collabing with a lot of holomembs lately? from apex collab until song covers?
>>25781406he's not the only one kek
>>25781186>>25781200, and her usual "competitors" in this timeslot (IRyS and Mumei mainly) haven't streamed on their channels for a while (IRyS had to prepare for Dokomi, plus collab on Baelz and Kiara channel, followed by recording and today vaccine jab, Mumei has been travelling) so Kronii has been having the timeslot for herself recently (with occasional Baelz and / or Fauna overlap, but it isn't their usual timeslot).
Think there will be a shitstorm tomorrow after the ironmouse haachama collab?
>>25779617provide me with a proof of how coco's number blowing up unnaturally with dead chat like salome. oh no, you can't.
>>25781585That would implying anyone cares about Haachama other than the loving Haaton of hersThis thread will get mildly amused by whatever number it might generate but I doubt anyone will care at all 3 seconds after it ends
>>25781585...I completely forgot that exists. How the hell would that collab even work, I wonder? Though I'd expect most of the shit will be contained in /hlgg/, with a few bait threads here and there. It's not like Haachama is as big as her 2020-2021 days.
>>25781585c*nnor joins half way
Ah trying to pit EN vs JP, attempting different materials I see, did someone bite schizo?
>>25779729without coco, none of the nijien will exist, without coco none of your nijijps would be known outside jp. humble yourself.
>>25781585Inb4 she calls mouse nyanners
>>25781617>>25781625Good.>>25781627Not good.
Fauna is stronger than 3/5 of Luxiem. True or false?
>>25781585I kind of actually look forward to it, nothing seems to be egregious about it considering how the others before it have been, might actually even be entertaining and adorable.
>>25781482Networking.
>>25779423> Nippleman and the Lost Sponsorshipsdelayed, nippleman swapped with other edengumi> Nijifest cancelled due to mass COVID outbreak among staffagain, delayed> Monetized Elden Ring streams, violating FromSoft rulesI don't remember something happen from this
>>25781482She only collabs with festival, shion and haato.Her three very close friends, nothing to do with hololive really.
>>25781694Fauna never fucking does buff content and if she did she would mog Luxiem.
>>25780988>Niji vs Niji timeloopskeksalome really mindbroke you faggot
>Chloe's english karaoke at a time when most westies are still asleep or already at work>Salome's english stream at a time when most westies are already deep on wage slave hoursThey are pandering to SEA with these forsaken hours of "English" streams, aren't they?
>>25781772Ans what exactly is her "buff" content?
>>25781747>I don't remember something happen from thisYou didn't notice all of Nijisanji stopped playing Elden Ring around the same time?
>>25781585>>25781663>>25781719Wasn’t the Calli-Mouse collab a lovefest full of “moe moe kyun”?
>>25781770she did vsaikyou with matsuri right
>>25781694If Fauna keeps streaming at her own 7AM jst timeslot, she'll be a 10k streamer in no time. But she takes frequent breaks.
>>25781498>SEA>not even 2500 followersTruly the beating heart of Hololives fanbase
>>25781796yuropoor maybe?
>>25781803Tier-list/horror/cooking etcJust not debuff games. If we started listing buff games here, nijiEN would just steal it. I've been dropping slay the spire, bioshock, risk of rain etc games and the next day or week, one of those nijiENs are playing it.
>>25781806Mashiro just started it before he ate a banAmamya is still playing it, and she's the one who restreamed in on bilibili
>>25781806no one follow niji that close anon, maybe if you like the game they play but I never liked elden ring
>>25781694According to March, April and May medians:>March: 3 Luxiem members had higher CCV than her.>April: 2 Luxiem members had higher CCV than her.>May: 5 Luxiem members had higher CCV than her.I'd say that, in general, she's stronger than Shu and Ike, weaker than Vox and Mysta and around Luca's level.
Hololive streams powerpros and elden rings more than Nijis. Is this true? [\spoiler] Konami and Fromsoft done goof'ed in the past, they should've been neutral [\spoiler]
https://twitter.com/hololiveALT/status/1534815122203766784?t=4g-4_StozAXksayu42mlIA&s=19
>>25781920pff
>>25781811Well yes, but this is haachama.Someone who is not a native enfoih speaker, who's much younger than mouse and someone who even holos find hard to collab withYou think mouse will be comfortable enough interacting with her as she was interacting with baelz and mori?
>>25781917anon your spoiler reps...
>>25781811That was pretty much it, and as far as I've seen, her interviews with other holos have been pretty much the same, her being giddy and throwing praises and such, and we already know she adores holo, she's alright.
>>25781920I wonder if investors sees this and think if anycolor will do any multimedia project in the future. Sure, the boys from niji sells more albums than holos but in terms of career prospects, calli and suisei is above them, being popular generally and not to a fujo/gachi audience.
>>25781920
>>25781848Only Salami's is close to most yuropoor pirme time.Chloe on the other hand only screams SEA with that time.
>>25781948Isn’t it a talk show similar to HoloTalk? If Ironmouse isn’t dumb she’ll have the questions sent in advance to Haachama
>>25781860desu you can make good numbers with kusoge if you just vary it up and do long streams with them, consistent schedule and long streams are pretty much the only true buff content that never fucks you over in the long run, it builds up your foundation
>>25781952Teach me
wait how tf does stars has propnight perms?
>>25781962wrong angle, Anykara is probably gaslighting their investors into thinking multimedia is a spook and not to worry about it
>>25781836this is the guy who made korone depressed right?
>>25781962I think Cover is smart to diversify their assets, see what works and sticks then invest more into it, it also helps that some talents are into those which makes it more easier to prop up, I love the girls but having to solely rely on your talents which are volatile is not good for business in the long run
>>25781972While true, I think this is a bit different.Because Kiara at the end of the day is in hololive, while mori and baelz do know what to say and not to say.I obviously don't think mouse has any malicious intentions of course, but haachama is very much retarded
>>25782013Anon, Shinove is a god-tier manager. Most of the “difficult” permissions that eluded JP and EN for years got unclogged when stars asked and Shinove provided.
>>25781159>Ame has less CCV than both Kronii and Fauna>Yet has higher VOD views on her stream than both of themnaruhodo
>>25781962Does anyone have sales numbers for Shinigami Note or do we need to wait until the actual release date?
>>25782216anon, it's apex. tab-in/tab-out makes a lot of vod views but terrible ccv.
>>25782145I'm curious if Anykara has some projects to diversify their assets
>>25781811Yes, IronMouse is very much a dream interviewer for people in the sense of unrelenting positivity and not asking hard questions.
>>25782247makes sense, you're a smart anon.
>>25782145It's better for the talents anyway, it gives them more opportunities and places to be involved. More projects, more variety in content, more room for the talent to grow which is part of the appeal of the idol journey
>>25782167If you follow Haachama EN collabs, Haachama becomes even more of a sweetball when having to collab in English, she almost goes full Haato. For as much as I would love to see full blown chaos Haachama going>yeah, then I said “fuck you too, nigger elf” and then she started crying and ran to Noel to tattle…I don’t think that’s what’s going to happen
>>25782013Shinove got Atlus permissions. The Stars have the best manager in Hololive
>>25781920https://alt.hololive.tv/news/243/I'm guessing the Rushia yab delayed the PV then
Who does Watame pay to make her shorts?
>>25781920neat
>Roberu plays the yakiniku kusoge>Immediately after, Salome plays it as well I can't believe my son is the Niji's guinea pig as well...
>>25782328>cover was retarded to not just include her in as an NPC since Rushia character is their IP
>>25780394this is the first link from google search"coco graduation live stream"https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/oc0m8h/cocos_graduation_stream_broke_multiple_records_1/
>>25782403Cover has a weirdly high level of 'honor' about this kind of thing
>>25773512So should /#/ pool our money and put one of us on the board of directors?
>>25781920>english messageHoloEN
>>25782467No, just short it
>>25781982You see the little tickbox beside the post button?The one that says [Spoiler?]Yea. You're supposed to make sure it's marked so that the spoiler tags work.
>>25782403>>25782429It is less about honor and more about knowing the fucking history of the industry and what happened with every attempt to separate the "character" from the "spirit" that animated it.
>>25782403The backlash from the general fanbase would be far worse for them than delaying it. Part of Hollives success is the almost family businessesque our employees are our family reputation they’ve built. It’s the same reason they aren’t going to shit can a chuuba for underperforming.
>>25781962I don't know about that, ALT still feels like empty hype at this point. The flashy trailers themselves create buzz but how much interest is there actually in the manga and whatever else the main thing is going to be? I'm not sure if they're playing to their strengths.
Let the operation "rrat breeding" begin!>short stock>spread rrats>buy the dip>spread counter rrats>sell high
>>25782417>Coco blowing up back 2020>"coco graduation live stream"You do need some meds
https://youtu.be/6yakWmCJtykSad....
>>25782599translate onegai
>>25782504>>25782505>>25782429Still, it's their IP. Isn't it better to just include her as a background character than not? For the HoloAlt world, you're removing a literal necromancer with a deep background from the story. I could make up different variations of short stories on how gen 3 was formed and how they all met up together. That story could then be used for an anime. The spirit and personality for the person behind them stays. Heck I would put aloe and HoloCN into HoloAlt too, then they'll die in the story or go missing. For example, gen 5 wasn't always 4 person, there was a fifth person who died protecting the other 4 or HoloCN was trapped in a conspiracy and the main protagonists trapped all 6 in another dimension or Rushia killing herself after being brainwashed to destroy kingdoms with her necromancy skills.
>>25782599>>saku chan whyyy TT
>>25782549>Second biggest investor is located in the cayman islandsThe okane is sentaku
>>25782504> Lulu merch is still being sold by NijiIt's only because nijiniggers would spam their talents again if they did the same thing.
>>25782622are you fucking retarded lmao, they wont use rushia for this. they remove all of her content from youtube and you think they will include her for the sake of story? they wont take penny of a terminated chara, yagoo has pride
>>25782599Good luck...>You will always be in my mind
>>25782622>Isn't it better to just include her as a background character than not?No you dumb fuck. That's why I mentioned previous attempts by other companies to do just that and the backlash was big enough in one of the cases to destroy their biggest money maker.In your retarded mind there is a distinction between "Uruha Rushia", the intellectual property and "Uruha Rushia", the retarded menhera that got herself fired.But fhe difference from vtubers and, let's say, Looney Tunes is that you can carry on with Bugs Bunny after Mel Blanc dies or gets sacked but, for vtubers, there is an inherent attachment to the voice actress as much as there is to the character with neither half being the whole thing by itself
>>25782622Omega, fuck off. This is why nobody likes you.
>>25782519The point is to shore of their weaknesses. Multimedia creates additional vectors for expansion of the franchise to new potential audiences and a higher diversity of content to sell to the core audience. It's a kind of security to have many different ways of achieving the same result, the delivery of content, in ways that can cover more bases and keeps the core audience from getting exhausted. This allows for a more flexible and robust hype cycle, since there's always something new to announce that will target a more specific element of the fanbase while giving the rest something to talk or think about so its always occupying mindshare, and finally if they aren't interested in a manga or whatever, they it gives them a break so they can rebuild their excitement for when the next thing that targets them comes around.This is the reason why multimedia franchise and Metaverse are so fucking powerful, they spread and mitigate risk and stabilize your returns
>>25782622The only way I can see Rushia to still be a part of HoloAlt is a small non-speaking cameo. But she was essentially erased so I really doubt that.
>>25782620She's dying, this is her last will and testament.
>>25782519Anon, pokemon became even more popular with an anime attached to it in the 00s. Pokemon is one of those IPs you grow to remember all the characters and the 151 first pokedex. Now look at Hololive, everyone knows their names, history, memes etc. Now, look at nijisanji, who would remember all 150+ livers?
>>25782620saying goodbye. she's going to the dentistdoesn't want to end up like irys after going to the dentist
>>25782761The only way I can see Rushia appearing again in any holo related projects is if the talents themselves requested for it, like Marine's MV.
>>25782733Hololive is slow on this just because they get delayed whenever a graduation/termination comes up just because they dont want to use the character in the projects. Just fucking use it.
>>25782786With her last breath, she uttered these final words>Luna-tan, Luna-tan>I bullied you incessantly, hid your sneakers in the locker room, poured water inside them for you to wet your socks, pushed you from the beach ball, swapped your model brightness to a slightly darker hue, farted on your backpack >In life we all do things that we regret dearly Luna-tan, and with my dying words I would like to say >I regret .... I regret ......>I REGRET NOT HAVING DONE IT MORE OFTEN!
>>25782761https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xenG9OdpMcgAt least she still exists on hologra
>>25782824I know both are soulless dogshit franchises with no substance, but comparing hololive to pokemon is incredibly delusional.
>>25782897>both are soulless dogshit franchises with no substanceNijiseethe
>>25782897What is a soulful franchise?
>>25782786puta ang nanay mo. pinoy ka no
>>25782504Oyabun ...
>>25782897Mario, hello kitty, digimon, pokemon, YGO all started small, they didn't accelerate like niji did and hololive will become successful just as them. Only, their that afraid of using terminated characters. You don't see pikachu's og VA dying then Ash's partner gets replaced by raichu.
Nobody owned Rushia Slot, so the best ongoing stream right now is>the KR better Nyanners drawing and being cute
>>25782824>Now look at Hololive, everyone knows their names, history, memes etc.But these are "alternate" versions that aren't guaranteed to have much in common with them beyond the surface. I suppose everyone is already pretty out of character in Hologura too but that at least has the girls doing the voices. Is this just something for the fans or is it going to attempt to appeal at all to anyone not already familiar with them as streamers? This is a pretty pessimistic way of looking at it but the more I think about it the more it gives me Virtual-san flashbacks.
>>25782145you sound like a nijinigger talking about anykara diverifying their assets to yumenographia and such
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1534822616829001730?t=vwaRnmPP-LMqDYIH6QXeVg&s=19
>>25783009You are fucking delusional. Mario and Pokemon literally accelerated when they became successful retard. There's a reason those had games per year and would have even more if development time was possible.
>>25783047all hags, why cover forced hags to work like this
So, I assume we as the fans are gonna create our metaverse characters on our phone/pc then join in a virtual world. If the server gets busted due to overall positive response, wouldn't it be good for Cover to announce their IPO then? They could sell cosmetics or do a Holo gacha in their app.
>>25783173>to announce their IPOI don't think Cover would cease to be a privately held company anytime soon. There is no upside for them right now
>>25783173they will not IPO for the foreseeable future
>>25783035>Expanding to anime/manga/video games, a thing every successful Japanese IP holder does>A literal hostess clubTotally the same thing
>>25780542yeah, may is over anon
>>25783203>>25783249I mean, after their projects blew up, they're gonna need additional funds to accelerate it further. If they don't, it's okay I guess.
>>25783035>>25783265Funny thing about Yumenographia was not that it wouldn't turn a profit (it did) but that it wouldn't scale.One Chloe (or one Vox) can do the same as the Yume girls do, except they do it to multiple patrons at once.Restricting the interactions to one-on-one was a silly gimmick that limited their growth-(And, of course, the whole "girls taking the patrons home after their shift" thingy)
>>25783295you are retarded
>>25783295>they're gonna need additional fundsThey wouldn't and even if they did, there are a lot of alternative ways to raise funds that don't involve selling your company control in the open market
>>25783295Anon, Yagoo has said they have enough in the bank to run their current projects for 10 years even if they stop making money tomorrow
>>25783295If they play it right, invest smartly, gain a steady stream of revenue while growing then they have no need to go IPO.
>>25783035is that supposed to be a bad thing? yumenographia worked well and made good money for them as far as we know.
>>25778719Did Cover get big funding from any venture capitalist firms? I know Niji made the news for it a year or two ago because they did receive investments.
>>25783343Yea. Like, if they wanted to say....make an Anime, all they would need to do is partner with say...Shueisha and so a manga+anime push for Holoalt. Just as an example.
>>25783394Nene provides cheaper and better services than a virtual brothel
>>25783394vox in one month probably made more than them in years
>>25783413>all they would need to do is partner with say...ShueishaI maintain that if anime is moving Holos into an anime it would be>CyGamesThey already have a very popular anime (which many in their audience doesn't even know comes from a mobile gacha) with two seasons already, and in a style that could easily have cameo by Holos at no significant additional cost to what they already spent doing it.
I just realized we're going to be at a point soon where Salome has higher subs than any Vtuber in the world aside from Gura.
Do you guys really think they will suceed just because of mixed media? mixed media is normal in japan, its done daily in the animes you watch. Love Live, Bang Dream, everything that goes out with manga, anime, mobile games, etc at the same time or around a similar timeframe. theres many success but a lot of failures as well..
>>25783394The problem with Yumenographia is not from the monetary side but from what kind of business is it.
>>25783506The power of national pride.
>>25783506Its kinda crazy how Gura has like double the amount of subs of the next highest vtuber
>>25783073Nijiseethe
>>25783519>western ojousama character >national pride
>>257736081M buff stream should get gold. If not why give Salome any golds at all? Just erase her name.>4x: Salome
>>25783511Nope but diversifying your business is good. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
>>25783512which as another anon pointed out is not a problem for the content hololive has planed so far? which makes the take i respondent to retarded then
>>25783549Please stop replying to cheap and retarded bait.
>>25783511Yes, because mixed media is inherently a risk mitigating strategy. It's quite literally designed as a safe and steady way to generate sustainable revenue.
>Lui 10k
>>25783604I LOVE HAGS
>>25783604Not to disparage her, but there is literally no other Holomem streaming right now and won't be until the next hour (Mio, Kanata, Noel).
>>25783660Going for less populated slots is a smart strategy
>>25783570Cope
>>25783511When you have a good core product then mixed media is a slam dunk. I actually have zero fucking idea why Hololive hasn't done a gacha game yet.
>>25783547>She's Japanese, from a country that popularize vtuber, on her way to beat the shit out of the current two biggest vtuber, which are not Japanese.
>>25783718>EOP Pandering
>>25783717They're actually not that easy to do, they require constant heavy investment and plenty of them failThey're also sort of a grubby business model with negative connotations overseas and a lot of countries are looking to regulate them out of existence
Eh, Hololive already did collectable cards, which is basically the original form of Gacha
>>25783850This. I have already seen so many good IPs from japan that has bad gacha games
>>25783717From Yagoo's interviews, they seem to be adopting Valve's approach of selling in-game cosmetics for their games to get revenue.
>>25783850It doesn't help that many Gacha games are complete garbage on rates, and the models for the games ARE predatory. The fact that titty-boat game(Azur Lane) manages to avoid this DESPITE being a chink game surprises me to this day. See with Arknights.
Song numbers for one of the Korean girls and her keyfab managerLILPA & Roentgenium - cover of Last Reunion>1 million getin little over 3 dayshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-5WdjbCYnk220609 1855 JST(3 Days 4 Hours 10 Minutes)Haven't caught any of their other songs, but these are basically Suisei numbers.
>>25776005>axed Niji IN>axed yumenographia>axed Niji ID and KR>axed melissa>just so this red bar looks taller than the previous oneHow much blood must be spilled until the IPO gods are satisfied?
>>25783978>DESPITE being a chink gameAre they even chink anymore? I thought the CCP fucked them so hard they had to relocate to Singapore or something
>>25783978- They're not P2W, for starter, despite having PvP- The rate, while not "Good", is actually decent- They do give out rolls alot- Most of their earning is from Skins rather than the unit themselvest.Playing the game for 2 years
>>25783978Chink games do better internationally than jap games, this has been the case since FGO. The jap gacha market is more predatory and it is also stagnant as all fuck.
>>25783506KIZUNA..
>>25784038That's MihoyoDifferent company ...The only reason for Yostar to consider moving out is having Hololive collab again lol
>>25783975That and, you know, using it as a platform for their events and stuff probably
>>25783978There's literally only two ways for gacha games to provide enough content to keep people spending money>Garbage rates so you can release 8 cards a month and whales still never run out of things to chase >Have 300 artists slaving away in a sweatshop pumping out assetsObviously it's a lot easier for China to do the latter
>>25783295They are already in preparation for an IPO since last year and have been actively hiring staff to work on it. Expect it within the next year.
>>25784171They simply hired people to tell them if it was a good idea or not. It's not so they won't.
>>25784053How about gook gacha?
>>25784171It's not unusual for a large private company to want an accountant to have IPO prep experience even if they have no current plans to do oneOtherwise you just have to hire a second accountant a few years later
>>25783363Too strong... hololive >i kneel
>>25784253Heavily depends, some games are alright and others are an absolute hot mess. Let's not get into gacha in their MMOs either.
>>25784296It's not asking for IPO prep-experience its describing the company as having an IPO in preparation
>>25784253NTA but gook gacha lives inside a bubble and is predatory too but blue archive is good. If it weren't for holo collabs, they wouldn't have a big mindshare across anime fans. nijiEN did nothing to them though. Other than that, NA gacha games does better than asia. Look at Apex.
How long before someone starts doing high quality vtuber documentaries? People love youtube documentaries.
Why didn't both niji and holo do their 3D debuts in the weekends or friday primetime? Is there a holiday or a national event tomorrow?
>>25784349On Holo side at least they'll have to spread 5 3D debuts around
>>25784317The post literally says they want a general accountant with IPO experience, not an IPO specialist
>>25783363Anon yagoo salary less than Coco....
>>25784373The headline literally describes the company as having an entertainment venture with an IPO in preparation
>>25784253The worst of the 3. Take the bad part of chink and jap, and add the typical gook pvp hyperfocus but extremely p2w due to the nature of gacha
>>25779125Welcome to membersheep.
>>25783363Why is Hololive such a better run company than Nijisanji? Is it because Yagoo is an actual businessman and Riku is just some tech kiddy who uses daddy's money?
>>25784409blue archive is good though, gameplay is bad
>>25784311Pattern and skill like Summoner war
Y’all realize that with the investment, Anykara can branch out in multimedia projects like Cover right?They can attach Salome in said project and it would sell better than whatever Cover can bring out.
>>25784453Blue archive is shit though, only good part is the girls and in that situation just checking the porn is objectively superior to bothering to "play" it.
btw, here is proof that companies shouldn't take decision based on meme popularity. Some execs REALLY thought people making morb memes meant they would watch it at the theathers.
>>25784445Hololive and Nijisanji aren't companies.
>>25781779Nijiseethe
TakoTori I~ya cover crossed 4M.
>now the retard is back, samefagging points on both sidesIt was a nice couple of hours
>only 7k waiting for gozaruthank god salome isnt streaming today
>>25784473I like how you assume Salome will continue as she has forever when she has only existed for 2 weeks. Give her at least two months to see how her popularity and content settle down.
>>25784445>>Yagoo salary less than holomem... Cover has employee only 20% of anycolor anon
>>25784533Please stop replying to shitty bait thank you
>>25784533>the two more weeks meme evolved to two more months nowssg
>>25784489Morb bros...
>>25784403It just says IPO prep is an expected part of the role, which doesn't imply any sort of timeframe. That screenshot is so old that if they were seriously working on it at the time, they'd have gone public before Anycolor did
>>25784473rather they invest in ROFMAO type JP reality style content than branching to multimedia projects with no goals in mind
>>25784391And?
>>25784514Everyone is a falseflagger huh, take your meds
>>25784510It’s one of the best covers in hololive. Deserves all the views it gets
>>25784489>Sony also has stakes in AnycolorUh oh
>>25784489>85k people went to watch this garbage despite the memes explicitly making fun of it for being bad.
>>25784555Making more profit with a smaller headcount while giving the CEO less compensation sounds excellent to me
>>25784630>85k peopleAnon, read again.
>>25784630It's 85k burgerdollars, not 85k burgersIt averages to about 6 people per theatre
>>25784606NTA, but it's pretty obvious when it's the same ESL retard replying to themselves for hours. When they have the language skills of a child they just repeat the same mistakes and phrases over and over.
>>25784576Anycolor was working on theirs even before that though.
MY WIFE GOTALU 3D LATER !!!!! SHE WILL BE EXTREMELY CUTE AHHHHHHHHH NINNIN THIGHSS AHHHH
>>25784645>>25784665Wait, going to the movies costs more than a dollar in burgerland?
>>25784717yeah, assuming a 12 dollar ticket that'd be about 7k people, give or take a few
>>25784687How did it take so long? Their prospects have only got worse over the last few monthsI don't mean this as bait, the end of coof lockdown & the recession is hammering earnings for the streaming and entertainment industries and it's going to get worse before it gets better
>>25784717From which multiverse are you from anon?Even in SEA movie ticket costs at least 3 usd
>>25784685you are very not smart aren't you
>>25784687Yeah, no shitAnycolor has held at least 3 funding round compared to Cover's 2
>>25784775You got a chuckle out of me
>>25784768IPOs take a long time to prepare? It literally happened the exact same way with Ancolor. Near the end of 2020 there were a couple of accounting based job advertisements mentioning IPO prep leading up until now. So Cover is around 6 months behind them on the same thing.
>>25784639Yeah , That’s so true. That's mean expenses will be less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgfHpxxvPqoOh, just realized that the gaming series is back
It's been a week but my Robot wife still hasn't crossed 50k...It's such a fun song too.
>>25784851At least this time they didn't put it head to head with the special event heh
Speaking of jobs at Coverhttps://hrmos.co/pages/cover-corp/jobs/0000029>運営ディレクター(英語圏男性タレント担当)
>>25784914ABE LET ME IN, I'LL CHANGE PROFESSION FOR THE GIRLS
>11k waiting room in 19 mins leftpredictions?
>>25784962It literally says they are hiring managers for English speaking male talents.
>>25784878That's the usual MGS time slot anon
>>25784984around 0.95 salome
>>25784914>English-speaking talent director>Requirements: Native Japanese, business EnglishThis explains a lot about HoloEN's management issues
Nino is back with a shill stream in 12 hours btw
>>25784984120k
>>25784985Oh, apologies, I misread, then I shall recant my statement anon
>>2578498480-90k is possibleWaiting room is coin toss with holomen, Suzie's last 3D concert also got in 11-14k range yet she broke ROF-MAO concert number
>>25784914Anyone think StarsEN can succeed against NijiEN males?
>Kanata with a meat grilling stream after Salome does itSomewhere there’s a leeching joke that can be made out of this…
>13k 13min to go70k?
>>25785028>NinoWho?
>>25784503holocope
>>25785065I mean, NijiEN males right now are at the absolute lowest point of their career so far, so who knows?
>>25785094Ninomae Inanis...
>>25785078She's playing a game though..
>>25785078A bad "rushia pettan / cat not fox / where is haato" reddit tier beaten down joke, given that lots of streamers played it before and after
>>25784984100k, I beleeb
>>25785078Bessan did it days ago retard
>>25785065It depends on how you define success Can they be successful in their own right as an EN equivalent of Homostars? Yes, I'm sure there's enough HoloEN viewers willing to tune in for a fun stream with the ladsCan they surpass NijiEN in siphoning money from thirsty women in North America (China)? Probably not
how many JPY for Iroha today lads?
> 15k waiting100k stream?iirc almost all the gokisei 3D streams got 100k right?
>>25785157What about being as successful as the NijiEN girls? 2-3k viewership or something like that.
>>257851771,1m already, so I guess about 8.61m.
The number of EN clips for Salome is rising in views. Is she starting to blow up?
Reminder
>>25785157>I'm sure there's enough HoloEN viewers willing to tune in for a fun stream with the ladsyeah like 40 people
Quick quiz for you before the stream starts /#/, without looking it up name the SEVEN 3D debuts to break the 100k barrierNo, P-Maru sama doesn't count
>>25785117I’m surprised it’s not talked about much here. The first day or two this month was okay but they’ve been in a freefall for like a week now. Half the time they need a raid just to meet the ccv they’d use to get regularly and they bleed it out almost instantly nowadays. Also Mysta barely breaking 10k on buff content while Vox is out of commission is just laughable. Even Vox was doing horribly. It’s like everyone just got dumped once June hit
>>25784914Oh boy... guess they found enough "stars" to put out a StarsEN gen...Probably 3 talents like usual? Or would they go with five? I can't see them doing five considering the weak Holostars brand, so it'll probably be 3 to start.Wonder what niches they found. I can't really see cock carousel-riding western females ever being interested in chuubas...
>>25785246Kinda unfair that Mori gets a 3D concert but the rest of Myth doesn't
>>25784914>>25785290They announced that on twitter months agohttps://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1506187912077258752
>>25785254Just look at Uproar number anon, hell will freezes over sooner than the day Holos, stars or otherwise, reach 2view, not in todays chuuba climate
>>25785276I only remembe 2: Kanata and Coco
>>25785294Mori is in Japan. This shit will be easier when travel restrictions lighten up
>>25785195If they're good and they go with a fun bro-streamer angle and don't try to play into being male idols then it's possible>>25785254More of them than that watch Roberu while having no clue what he's saying anon
>21k waiting roomthis is 100k+ territory
>>25785284As soon as Salome rises, Luxiem drops. Isn’t it coincidental?
>>25785284It doesn't help that salami's absolutely breaking all kinds of records
Starting early
>>25785294What >>25785338 said and one more thing: concerts are usually done at the personal initiative of each talent. Taken Botan 3D debut: it was that fun thing with kidnappers and using Yagoo as a shield.I'm not seeing any of the other Myth girls except Kiara putting together a concert
>>25785338How can she travel back and forth from Japan if she isn't Japanese?
>>25785177probably more than 2
>>25785338I can’t wait for Irys’ 3d live too!! Haha… it’s happening right.. right..?
>>25785284That's what happens when you spam 'buff' content. There are certain forms of content which burn your credibility and reputation for short term gain, and while it worked for Luxium it pretty much destroyed their foundation and now when the momentum is gone they're actually fucked
>>25785343I'll bet anything it won't break 100k
How many sc she got in waiting room ?? >iroha
>>25785359Yes. Mostly because NijiEN just had an offcollab month basically, is it a surprise that they drop off a bit from that? They would've slowed down last month instead, but offcollab streams.
>>25785284NijiEN males were mostly used for shitposting, and maybe 1-2 anons occasionally watched them to verify their graphs.They don't really have any actual fans. Vox is probably the only one that MAYBE has a holo-level fanbase (assuming he didn't filter them with the recent drama). Rest of them are all the same types of flesh streamers that the chuuba audience fled from. If they do the same shenanigans here, their audience will naturally leave as well.
>>25785342>watch RoberuRoberu current audience is 100% from outside the HoloBox, and mostly from Tamaki box
>>257854101.5M yen
>>25785390Redjuice hate!
>>25785390Don't worry anon, Omega has already been fired. It's only a matter of time until Cover sorts out her management issues and then she'll be right back on track
>>25785276ibrahim, fuwa, tomoe are the other 3. Furen almost got 100k.
>>25785425MeaBox and AnimareBox as well
>>25785359Probably not? Looking at Salome's chat crossover the third biggest org after NijiJP and Hololive is NijiEN. A lot of the guys fans are JP to begin with. I mean holy shit look at this guyhttps://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/channel/UCQ1zGxHrfEmmW4CPpBx9-qw.html#gjhMme-yZV81.3m yen of his birthday stream comes from yen with the next biggest being USD at 350k.
>>25785425Stars got their own box anon, albeit small
>>257853362/7>>25785452Also 2/7, Tomoe didn't make it
the fucking laggggg
LOOK AT HER, LOOK HOW ADORABLE SHE IS
50k from the first frame
>>25785425Somehow I don't buy that Tamaki and Mea of all people are the ones leading to EOPs still showing up in his chat
Gozaru 63kShe's rising fast!
goddamn Iroha's cute.
>>25785276KanaCoco 3D debut, only Botan crossed 100k from Gokisei iirc, and maybe a few nijis.
SEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
100k definitely possible
Coco 107,020Kanata 109,528Watamage 105,716Luna 84,780Towa 68,466Omarun 95,732Botan 99,112Wamy 94,391Nene 92,919Calliope 79,495
SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX GOZARUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 150K IKUZOOOOOOOOOO
>>25785555>>2578555583k
>>25785500They do but Roberu opted out of it, hence his current 1.3k+ floor / median>>25785535Nah, he got some EOP for himself from 2020 but that is not the bulk of his current audience for quite some time now
Does this look better than recent 3d debuts or am I crazy
https://youtube.com/channel/UC4pRflMbspg-5JMMRWWu-9gThis EN clipper has been spamming Salome shorts and it’s working rather well.
i FUCKING hate spats
GOZARU 80K AT 3 MINUTES INTO THE STREAM
>>25785627What recent ones?
>>25785627holoX models are both more recent than anything else and have had a good amount of time to have adjustments made to them.Throw that in top of the the fact that everyone is upping their 3d game in Hololive and I'm not too surprised.
>>25785659Mori's and the other VR ones from the ENs
c-cute
>>25785600I forgot Towa used to be a shitter. Can't believe none of Gokisei broke 100k. All of HoloX will break 100k.
>>25785635Blame susan who okay with niji has lesbian orgy live and ban holo when show as much as a cleavage
>>25779671KNEEL
>>25785684the vr ones arent real
LOOK AT THE MID SECTION JEEZUS
>>25785627If you're comparing it to Gaku or Nagao 3D it has lost by default lol
>>25785684Yea, I don't know who they contracted out for the HoloMyth 3ds, but they really need to touch those up because they're kinda a bit jank (except Kiara)
THE SPEED OF THIS NINJA
>>25785627It's 1:1 with her 2D design just like ID1's 3D
GOZARU 90K
>>25785715
> that sleeve clippinggod fucking damnit Cover, it's been 2 years, what are you doing.
Watch as salome get 5k more than whatever ninin got for peak later
>>25785724The 3Ds were there and they were shown to non paying viewers so they were real debuts
Jesus fuck the lighting I thought that was a real room
>>25785619>that is not the bulk of his current audienceThat's not what I was saying, I was just saying there's people in the EN Holo fanbase invested enough to watch JP Stars, so clearly they can convince people to watch dudes if they're good
>>25785630The successful ones seems to be the ones involving english swear words. If Salome focuses on learning english swear words on her stream she will definitely get the EOP crowd to latch on.
92k getto, I expect it to reach 110k or 120k at most if some miracle happen, very good numbers overall de gozaru.
the floor really high quality
>>25785738I don't think that's a model issue, it's more of an equipment issue because they are stuck trying to do it with with vive
so this girl will lose to salome right?
>>25785812This looks like easy 110-113k
Who is controlling Pokobe?
>>25785736Is this a joke? Their models look straight out a ps2 game
pokobe cute
>>25785878That's me
>>25785825>this floor
>>25785878Me
What's this fucker's problem?
>>25785878I am
>>25785945FAT FUCK!
de gozaru 100k
>180k debut>sub 100k 3d debut
OH NO NO NO POKOBE IS GOING TO RAPE KAZAMA!
>>25785857the bots always set to higher 2-3k with the highest numbers of the day
>>25785736Gaku 3D model look like shit, wtf are you talking about?It doesn't help that most male chuuba has that ugly sharp chin that looks horrible in 3D
Orphan is guaranteed silver then?
>>25785799>I was just saying there's people in the EN Holo fanbase invested enough to watch JP StarsI understood that. My point is that, despite said segment existing, it is not big enough to be the sustainable source of audience even to Roberu, an EOP champion, to the point he had to pivot all the way away from it and back into the JP audience to get numbers.It's not a safe bet to believe there are enough boy watchers among the girl watchers to sustain even a single streamer, let alone a full gen
>>25785975Those debuts were botted and Gen 7 will not do 150k+ debuts again.
>>257859753D debuts usually get less, yeah
Pokobe 3D 100kgood for degozaru though
>copying shien big cats gimmickfuck u holo girls
Look at this, anontachis. Between her room and iroha's...https://youtu.be/EY62MO3bOPE?t=1491
>>25785857Salome doesn't have a slot today, stream starts at midnight
Move away ninja, we want more pokobe
>>25785857Salome is starting at midnightAlso it's an English learning stream, that will give Salome either her worst or best numbers yet.
>>25786042Nijisanji shits out 3Ds like once a week and Hololive does like 10 a year max.
-100k--101k- -103k->105k
>>25786042better cloth physics at least, we can see where the budget went
>>25786042AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SUTOPU!!!!!!!!!
>>25786042Iroha's floor is better,,,
Good numbers progression
Will she take off her hakama or whatever it's called?
>>25785707Gen4 was before the 2020 cull
She's not gonna hit 112k
My dick isn't going to survive the Koyori 3D
salome is so nice, starting her stream at midnight so holobros can get their win...
There's no way it beats 110k
>107Salome... it's better if you don't stream today.
>>25786042Diligent ninja does the scrubbing reps.Be like Iroha.
FOOT FAGS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>25786042It clipped as well
>>25785827Mori's shouldn't be an equipment issue, her face is just wack..
>>25786128Coward
>>25786128She would lose a gold if she streamed today
I WANNA MY HEAD CRUSHED BY IROHA'S THIGHS
CAMERAMAN STOP SHOOTING MY WIFE IN WIERD ANGLE!!!
>>25786132kneel
Who cares. Salome will beat the peak by 3k like she always does.
>>25786144If Salome breaks 110k on an English studying stream and beats Gozaru I'm never coming back to this thread.
how many members was that?any numbers?
Honestly, it's absurd to see Salmon's normal streams at the same level with Hololive 3d debuts
What's current 3D reveal record?
>>25786042why is her model jittering and lagging so much? i only checked the room part at around 8-9 minutes in and every time she is moving it seems to lag out a bit
god shes way too cute
112k get
Iroha's 3D is quite crisp for 6 months. Expecting the other Holox to have nice ones. What the fuck happened with Mori if they can make 3D this good.
>>25786249Iroha
I forgot 3D debuts always trigger some stupid slapfight over which big corp's tech is better when they're both using the same hardware now and the differences in rendering and physics are infinitesimally smallThe one noticeable difference is Cover spends more of their own money on sets nowadays while Niji will only spot you for a flat textured cube with some unity store furniture thrown in
shes so happy brosaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
how high will the view count go up if she takes the coat off?
So salome getting 100k+ raises suspicion but when a holo does, it's legit?
>>25786266cheaped out on the EN 2nd class citizens
>>25786249You're looking at it.
>that one parrot repeating the one word of the week post after postGood for you numberfags, ignoring the basic bitch bait
>>25786128open your hands anons
>>25786125Kneel
>>25786249Fuwa minato with 140k iirc
>>25786293Based and ayame pilled.
>>25786144reminder that only retards here care about ccv
Aki...
>>25786279>>25786294How about the last record before this?
Yang Nari now have 7000 viewAnyone know why she have this high number?
>>25786291always has been
>>25786291yes anon, a holo getting a 100k a couple of times a year for big events is the same that a rando suddenly getting 100k on every part of fucking RE7, that's a totally not retarded comparison
It's already slowing down, no 120k
150k serious
3d Saber
>>25786340Nijibot
>>25786281Well that's got a lot to do with the fact that Holomem are more invested in these things no? Given what Roboco said about putting down money, it's just simply that the Holomem have more money to work with, and so are more willing to put down the cash for better assets and extras.
>>25786291>salome gaming streams >3d debutsyou couldn't be more retarded
>>25786339See >>25785600
>>25786279>>25786294I believe Fuwa is higher unless Iroha reached 140K+.
>>25786291It’s a special stream and it’s not everyday. Nobody blinks at the numbers of a niji3D debut too
>>25779556>>25779671>>25779727KNEEL
>>25786340She has been inclining for weeks
>>25786340She's cute, for starters. And she's drawing every Niji, meaning she has the eyes of many fanbases over herself
>>25786374We aren't counting botted streams
>>25786340>>25785219>>25785293
>$15k nowWhat's the current record?
Will Chloe, Koyori, or Laplus hit 150k?
>>25786336retard
>>25786266They fixed her didn't they? Sh'es looking less flat at least.
If salome 3D Debut got 100-112k ccv>that's mean.......
>>25786398Pink equal leech indeed
>>25786362Hololive is just a company people go to if they want to chase their dreams, I guess
>>25786404Hayato made $110k on his 3D.
>>25784028>think those aren't in the balancesstop being a retarded, the money suddenly doesn't vanish from a spreadsheet because branches were terminatedalso melissa offed herself because she thinks she's too good for the company which may or may not be true and we will find out eventually
>>25786404For 3D debut? I say it's Fuwa too, with ¥16,358,272
I dont think iroha could beat fuwa. Laplus could reach 150k tho
>>25786291Now you understanding how this thread works.Hololive success = good and legitimateNijisanji success = bad and fakeAny excuse to discredit Nijisanji success will be clung onto until completely untenable.
>>25785600>none of them even managed to break 100kAnd people wonder why gokisei are called gokishit
OHNONONONONOONO ITS RIKU
>>25786291Anyone that pretending to be retarded should be punished with death sentence
SWORD
>115k WHAT
>>25786463Please stop replying to cheap hours old bait thank you
ENTER YAGOO
Funny how the second least subbed Holo X can beat Botan's 3d debut numbers easily.
>>25786459Jesas.. you are kidding me right..
>>25786127I stopped thinking about it because I would get hard every time.
>>25786438That certainly looks better. It might also have to do with how she moves, she was spastic AF in her 3d so that could've thrown the tracking off a bit.
>>25786416Chloe sure Laplus 70%
>>25786496Yeah, Laplus and the orca can get into the 130k~150k crazy numbers range.
>Niji lost again*dabs*
>>25786563The industry is still growing after all
>>25786569I don't know why this thread still doubt the power of thirsty yumejo
>>25786500Fuck off, this thread has bowed to niji3D debuts — even with holo bias.
does iroha number beat nijisanji jp female 3D debut number?
>>25786563Vtuber industry is growing
>>25786563Holo inclining
>>25786445>1 million sub stream 110k
>>25786569Here anonTop 3 most superchats for 3D in Nijisanji:1. Gaku ¥23,764,7522. Fuwa Minato ¥16,358,2723. Ibrahim ¥14,074,222
>>25786485Fuwa isn't even a top 3 male niji how the fuck did he get 140k ccv/120k USD
>>25786362I forget who it was but someone at NijiJP explained how theirs work: they get themselves in a big cube with some stock furniture for an hour, and can pay out of pocket for more sets/assetsCover seems to be basically the same arrangement except the baseline set is fancier and they throw in some custom assets
>>25786500Wtf niji3D kino Even holofag approveBut not salome
>>25786611>>25786632>>25786639>>25786639Funny how Botan couldn't even beat gen 4's 3D debuts despite debuting to a much larger audience
this is just okita
>>25786281Eh, I'll bet you the highest spec 3d debut of the month in terms of tech will be indie anyway.
>>25786500>Now you understanding Where did you learning English, here?
>>25786563Botted so they don't get shown up by Salome obviously.
>>25786569Anon, the normal for Nijis is that they barely get any SC for normal streams, but the(of both genders) paypigs make it fucking RAIN on things like 3d debuts and special events. On this front, NijiEN are quite different from the rest of Nijisanji.
>>25786626>beating nijifems 3d numbersI think even tower did that.
>>25786563Gen5 had to compete with peak Myth and Taiwan yab
>>25786691>Not knowing about the numbers cullNewfagchama......
>>25786691I genuinely believe the cull memes after Gen 5 debuts. Maybe they just chose a bad time goo.
>>25786681See >>25786619
So will anyakara accelerate Salome 3D debut? Or will she have to join the waiting list until her turn?
>>25786619Some retards here think StarsEN would fare better without pandering to yumejos, they are just dumb
>>25786500Your 3rd world English is leaking Flipbros
>>25786681Lonely women with lots of disposable income. Think about it: women that can spend 5k on a handbag on a whim can spend a tenth of that value sending a fat red supa to have some attention from her virtual host
>>25786739You can discuss that in the other thread, not here
>>25786689That sounds about right from what I saw. It also minimizes claims of favoritism, since how much fancier things get come down to how much you're willing to push staff/put down cash.
>>25786667wtf, literally how, gaku is literally a 3 digit streamer.
What the fuck
>>25786716>>25786721JP is culled maybe 10% at best.
>sword fightHoly KINOOOOO
Iroha is so cute. Please, botters, let her have gold. I want Iroha lewds. Don't bot salome today.
How many 3D reveals are solo?Bringing guests might get higher number.
NIJI ASSASSIN
UOOOOOOH KINO
Don't reply to that gokisei schizo you dumbfucks
>>25786739She will get a preferential treatment and skipped most of her seniors
OH SHIET
Her grunting like anime fighting
>>25786721>cull memesmy man we literally have 2 gen5 streams being live when the fucking cull happened
It's RIKU, trying an assassination on livestream
this is absolutely kino
KKKIIINNNNOOOOOOOOOO
ENTER ASSASSIN
Iroha 116k view nowI dont expected she have this high
>iroha’s tits were jiggling slightly>furen’s and hayase sou’s tits were static as fuck during their debutsHolo 3D > Niji 3D
Iroha's 3d sure looks good.
>>25786843Something that has literally never happened before will definitely happen this time.
>>25786777His fans has been waiting for 3 years for his 3D anon, they got a lot of time to save moneyAlso, he's close to chinman
that was fucking kino
>>25786785I mean, if wasn't difficult to compare when gen 5's vod numbers after debut easily matched gen 4's debut vod number after a day. Despite the live number difference.
Yo that segment was pretty good
>winks at you
>>25786885>Some stupid faggot will now claim JP wasn't culled or something retardedI hate that fucker so much, it makes having actual discussion about the 2020 culls impossible as it devovles into mass shitposting. Lamy's graph from the same day also shows this stupid cull LIVE.
>>25786912There was a brief window where they intentionally disabled the jiggle physics for holos due to concerns about Susan swinging the hammerSince they became an MCN they've reinstated it
>120k rangestill a slippage zone. Can we get another 10k?
>>25781860>slay the spire, bioshock, risk of rainbut.. none of those are buffgames. And no one in Luxiem would play those games
aight who was that? must be some salty romunculus member trying to assassinate iroha
118k nowIs it possible for 120-125k?And if Salome streaming today will she have more than iroha today???
>female using eggplant
OH NO WHAT THE FUCK COVER THAT'S A BIG VEGE
>an eggplant
>>25787021Nah it was one of riku's assasin
Sorry gozaru, but 120k is for grown ups
>>25786563 The industry is still growing after all.Roboco 60k ccv in her birthday 3D>she has ccv lowest in jp>this is hololive everyone can get gold niji
120k get
>>25786690>>25786623It's the same shit with anything and its hilarious to watch you holofags try and pretend its not everytime its pointed out. Anything from Niji that does good in comparison to Hololive this thread is looking for any kind of excuse to tear it down, discount it entirely, lessen the achievement, or ignore it entirely.
>>25787041If she sings again, for sure
Sorry Iroha 120k is for big kids only
>raw eggplantYou STUPID SAMURAI YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO COOK THOSE.
>>25786948Probably will get 200K CCV too I bet
>Sorry Iroha, 120k is for grownupsAlso, what' with this salacious display of eggplant eating?
>>25787041i dont want to just shout bots at everything but if salome beats iroha i will join the ipo scam believers
>>25787063retard
>>25786820All of them IIRC. At most they have their genmates call in.
>>25786912Counterpoint:
b-bros what she doing?
One of the best 3D reveals to date.Not because of the program or anyting but because of sheer Iroha cuteness. What a great design.
>>25787001That's entirely wrong. They never got rid of it.
>>25787115No wonder Niji 3D debuts are better, they're packed with guests unless you're Ibrahim and just want to play pachinko.
>>25787137being cute!
What's Salomes highest recorded ccv again? 122k?
No way this is getting 120k
>>25786993he went with the >the cull for jp is smallinstead. posted it even before my post. and yeah Lamys graph is the second one i meant.
>>25787063Ok she grown up niji kun
>>25787072Shut the fuck, nijifag. You're literally the worst thing about nijisanji and the reason so many people hate it. It's literally because you're such a cunt, people treat you like shit because you are shit.
OH!
>>25787137don't worry about it
>>25787126Nyui's a slut tho
>>25787126Based Nui enjoyer.
>>25787126Camera shot screams look I'm a whore.
>>25787171
>>25787188>point out blatant bias of this thread>s-shut the f-fuck up nijifagOk
>>25787126How did they get away with this
>119,987FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Lize Helesta 6800 view nowI remember in 2021 her number always 15k-30kWonder why now her view this low...
>>25786710>On this front, NijiEN are quite different from the rest of NijisanjiThat's because NijiEN don't get 3D rumao
>>25787171Lol idiot.
>>25787199Yeah but she’s my slut
>>25787077120k got lol
>>25787245natural recline
>>25787166Not even hiding that you don't watch streams.
>>25787195AIEEEEEEE MAGIC ISNT REALL!!!!!
>>25787245She need more collab
no totsu?
I hope they get a 3D setup for taiko drums so she can jam out.
>>25787245She still averages 10k, I think of all Nijis her overlap with the Holobox is the highest since Lulu killed herself.
There is zero chance this is beating 125k
Cripple tallies make even less of a point now that all nijien does is raid each other and still somehow lose to Fauna of all people
>>25786820It's always been solo no? Why would they bring guest in? It's their special day.
>>25786437How? Iroha's reveal is barebone and yet she almost has twice the amount of Aki's viewers despite all the effort put into it
>>25787171...
>>25787199>>25787270EOPs
>>25787171Hi
Pokobe fuck off
>>25787246Nijisanji can get away with anything with no consequences.
>>25787339Your mum isn't barebones, she's fat
lol I saw some Lize viewers watching Iroha right now
>pokobe solo>gets more viewersyou can't make this shit up
tf are you doing you fat fuck
pokobe provoking me bros wtf
>>25787337>lost half the raid viewers in just under 20 minutesthats just... sad...
122 k for pokobe!!!
Youtube's counter is choking again, it's taking like 30 seconds to refresh. Also 122k yo
POKOBE 122K GET
>>25787339Mentioning that effort and quality don't correspond directly to results in the numbers thread is heresy anon
>>25787326no that's probably Hoshikawa
>>25787337Another example of thread bias, Nijisanji implements something that improves their performance in a numberfag stat therefore that makes the metric worth less.
>>25787337Mysta will win cripple gold
>>25787391>+3k for pokobe alonecan't make this shit up
She's singing again, easy 125k
>>25787395Seethe niggeyaaa
>>25786623Are we talking about the same 3D debuts that were accused of botting and ridiculed after Miko's WWE streams achieved better numbers?Those 3D debut streams?
Pekobe > salome Naniiiii
>>25787409>>25787425Pokobe I kneel...
THIS IS POKOBE'S GOLD
Luck favors the bold, doesn't it? Most people avoided overlapping this 3D and Nari Yang is thriving almost without competition for the NIji audience looking for cute girls doing cute things other than the 3D debut
POKOBE GOLD!
More new stage
>>25780282>>25779556>>25779671>>25779727KNEEL
how does this singing stage compared to niji female 3D?
>>25787441>improves performance>still loses to the runt of council, sana not withstanding because she doesn't even stream anymore
>>25787337That's not very pog of him
>>25787334anon..... are you sweating?
>>25787326it is a shame thoughin 2021 she have really big number even if streaming boring game
>>25787438True I forgot how much she collabs with Gen 1 and 2
>>25787455Fuck you pokobeeIt should've been me!ME!!!
>>25787245She was busy all the time and did a lot of special streams in 2021. I'm pretty sure she has been around 10k+-20% on normal streams ever since Sanbaka inclined in 2019.
watching this debut is making me look forward to vspo debuts so much
>>25787488nijifemales only get the absolute basic so get an idea
>>25787466Please... anyone... save Itsuki...
>>25787501Yeah I remember she used to average like 20k doing random shit. Such is the fate of the Niji female.
she loves mesee ya /#/ bros
>>25787245Dont worry. She just needs to spam genshin every now and then to get numbers>>25787438Or Toko.
Is it me or is the camera work really good?
>pokobe inclining numbersHow does this even work? Did everyone just spread guys pokobe is doing something and everyone just decided to watch?
>>25787457What the fuck are you talking about retard? People ridiculed those 3D for losing to migo's wwe, not one sane person would accuse them of bottingAlso /#/ bowed to fucking Gaku of all people
>>25787560Pokobe is cuter than Iroha.
>>25787441did you forget to read the spoiler
>viewers decliningQUICK BRING BACK POKOBE
>>25787560yes
>>25787492If Hololive started doing the same shit and getting much higher peaks out of it nobody is going to be complaining that it makes CCV worthless.
>>25787555thanks, me very good at it
130k>i will kill myself
>>25787452Oh she's not very good.
>>25787534im watching her rn + iroha on the side
SOMEONE BRING BACK POKOBE I WANT 130k
>Number decliningAIEEEEEE POKOBECHAMA TASUKETE!!!
>>25787560>see people posting about pokobe skit>I tune in>hear girl singing>I'm out
she cant sing bros...
>>25787404I mean if you are watching for example Elira, and she raids Luca, why would you keep watching?
Who is the best HoloX singer? Chloe? They all kinda suck at singing.
kek her singing is a debuff
>>25787584You mean salome?
Pekobe was better!
>>25787555Their camera work quality has improved a lot in the last year.
Sorry ninja125K is for a true samurai
>>25787560Then numbers start to recline while Iroha is singing. Looks like we can see which is the real draw here.
>>25786291Are you saying a 3D debut should be expected the get the same viewership as Resident Evil part 7?
>>25787441This thread doesn't fucking care about your numbers if your content is bad. We talk a ton about ways to improve CCV, but we don't want Vtubers to actually do them
pokobe had the peak number, should he get the gold?
>>25787646Are you perhaps deaf? Chloe and Laplus are great singers. Lui is an underrated singer.
>>25787488
>>25787646Lapchan and orca
Mina san desu....>stfu ur bitch and kneel gozaru
>$16k getto!
>>25787236>>25787261>>25787353>>25787365>>25787654Jokes on you, it was all part of my master plan. You were all masterfully baited
>>25787701Ouch.
>>25787681What you mean to say is this thread only likes to masturbate over Hololive getting good numbers and if you are Nijisanji it finds any way it can to shit on the numbers and make them not count like I was originally pointing out.
>>25787701ayame dabbed at the big holo 3D
>>25787701Lize doesn't count that was Like 3 years ago
>>25787513Yeah when Lize streaming pokemon & genshin in 2021 i remember the view more than 20kI though she will be rivaled pekora in 2022 if she can continue thisit such a shame...
>>25787728Truly, a Master Baiter(heh)
>>25787732>>25787744I'm just joking
>>25787326>>25787438>>25787549You made me curious so I checked some recent streams for who has the most chat overlap with HololiveToko ~30%Hoshikawa ~29%Lize ~22% (actually lower than Ange at ~24%)
>>25787488Go watch Sanbaka concert and compare that to fucking Kanda 3D
>>25787492>Fauna>RuntShe's ahead of the rat too.
>>25787701you could get better backgrounds in koikatsu what the fuck
>>25787488>still thinking 3D stages are worth anything when AR stages are the futureas usual Cover is 5 years behind Nijisanji
歌で下山どりゃあああああああああああああああああああああああああ
>>25787707Salome kneel....
>>25787492>runt of council, sana not withstanding>FaunaHuh?
What the fuck, is she actually trying this time? She sounded better just now than in the previous song
sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
AAAAHHHHHHHHHH NO JACKET YES YES YES
Anyway
>>25787701This is too funny
>>25787774Anon, this is dog shit
> lose her kimono> minus 2kCULTURELESS SWINES
>>25787819AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>25787806AR stages are fucking dumb and ruin the whole point of 3D.
>>25787646Laplus, Orca and Lui are great singers
Pokobe leaves. RECLINES
>>25785600Jesas... Towa really used to be the runt huh...
>>25787778>Toko ~30%it's the suisei effect
>>25787806Anon, you missed this year HoloFes? Or that VR thingy they did every other week last year?
why did she have to have spats man
>>25787875>hololive doesn't have it so its bad
Laplus is getting over 150k for sure.
>>25786775how about you neck yourself, retard?
I kneel to the camera man, he was great.
>>25787854How many n1 Solome got?
>>25787488You tell mehttps://youtu.be/8bV_fLqdlbE?t=1692
>cover is dying>Iroha is a flop>holox is... le bad>muh only 1 chuuba doing good in Niji>muh best youtubing company in the stocks market (there isn't another relevant one)Let's see how the niggers will cope today, mods please kick Nijisanji to /trash/ already
Will StarsEN be as hated as NijiEN males in here when they debut?
>>257879540
Iroha doesn't has senpai guestIf she has senpai guest 160k+
>>25787806AR can only be done if the live is on the physical stage.
This reminds me of an MMD
>>25787774lmao the people in the background is just a fucking screen
>>25787912That's outsourced/3rd party, I remember niji also worked with the same guys for a couple paid concerts.
Why does this thread have so many unironic nijishill shitposters?
SSSEEEGGGSSSSSSSSS
>>25787964>Salome streams>gets 100klove those tears anon
Oh Lize get 7300 nowGenshin is her buff game so it is still possible to get 10k
Wouldn't it be something if Laplus finish her 3D debut in less than 30 minutes
>>25787778Tokoyomis strong. Although I think Toko’s morning streams help with the overlap since there’s a morning JP audience begun by Coco
>>257879542nd is the highest I've seen her get.
>>25787961That was 6 months ago even its definitely improved since then.
>>25787897Unironically, I'm glad unicorn left her after the yab or else she wouldn't have those devil may care attitude that led her to today
>>25787964agree nijicopers deserve the rope
>>25787964Rent free, shut up and enjoy the samurai
>>25787990They dont watch streams
>>25787977UOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>25787964>believing this shitAnon, Salome can beat any holo everydayAs much as I hate to admit it as a holofag, holo is literally dying
>>25787986That's the whole point: both companies clearly realized it would be a waste of their effort to try to develop in house what they can rent for the event
>>25787921laplus beats gawr record i call it now
>>25787986And? That's way smarter and more financially sound than trying to develop your own house tech
>>25788050Iroha isn't a loli retard
>>25788052>cover is dying>Iroha is a flop>holox is... le bad>muh only 1 chuuba doing good in Niji>muh best youtubing company in the stocks market (there isn't another relevant one)Let's see how the niggers will cope today, mods please kick Nijisanji to /trash/ already.
>>25787990Were have you been this past year? half of nijiantis here are nijishills falseflagging.
SPATS CLOSE UP
>>25787774i kneel
>>25786948Cope, she's the only relevant Nijimember now
SEXXXXXXX
Her waist is so fucking erotic
Do we have pokobe lewds if iroha wins?
>>25788068UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>25788052>holoEN is literally dyingthere, I fixed it for youand this is a good thing
>>25787964This is exactly the same kind of coping Nijisanji fans used to do when one of their 3D debuts would occasionally beat the top Holo stream that day by the way.
>>25787971huh, really. I guess, mostly Jop audience is the reason.
>stops singing>get 5klmao
Iroha is a great opener for the 3D debuts. I'm expecting high numbers for the rest of Holox
>singing stops>numbers go up
If you only use the AR for like once or twice per year it's better to just rent it from people who specialize in it.
>>25788052>t. nijinigger
>>25788052>If you don't take gold in /#/ retarded little contest, your company is doomed
>>25787774WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT .... ANGE IS THIS THICC!?
>>25788037ALL OUT WAR
When's salome streaming? Midnight?
Well, not exactly unexpected, but still.
>>25788093Blind-chama, fucking Kanda 3D is better than Sanbaka concertLook at that wall of chat behind them, what a retard of a producer
I know the day isn't over but fuck it, Iroha won Gold. Get in here bros.
No dont sing!
>holo big number = twitter trendhow come salome rarely trending bros?
>Nijisanji is dying> NO! hololive is dyingBoth are breaking record numbers, you tribal fags are retarded.
>>25787912hideous backstage holy fuck, why is yagoo such a jew?
>>25788171That's what you guys always says tho?Nijisanji is dying the past few months right?
>>25788176hips? yeschest? looks too large
>>25788167IMAGINE!
>>25788197Because her popularity is fake, how many times do we have to tell you?
is Niji ever get twitter trend when do 3d?
Sorry Iroha, 125k is for grownups.
>124,627This is probably the peak since it's the singing debuff again
Cant wait for Salome to inexplicably beat Iroha's peak for just a couple minutes
So Holox will hold the record for highest CCV for 3d debuts. Imagine thinking they are failures right now.
>>25787986This tech argument is always retardedBoth companies just buy the same tracking hardware everyone uses then write some glue code to send the tracking into Unity to renderAR is the exact same except the backdrop is replaced with a video feed from a camera that can sync the 3D environment to its movement, which they also buy from someone else
>Dropping again on karaokeKEKMY SIDES
>>25788199That's a third party company, doofus
>>25788201Why else do you think they're scrambling for IPO money? They want to dump their hot potatoes into someone else's hand
>singing>numbers downholy kek
>>25788201Of course its dying. It just went public, that's death to any company's future. 6 months from now the shareholders will dump it and the company will collapse into obscurity
>>25788189worldwide trending too. Pretty good
>>25788068EOP retard
>>25785409YOUR FUCKING DICKNOW
>>25787964>/#/ is 99% pro Hololive every single day>Zoom in on the few anti hololive posts a day>"Fuck you /#/ is so against hololive, Hololive against the world Fuck YEAH lets show them"brainworms
>>25788199>yagoo>>25788221Yes but depends on whose 3D
>>25788201>the past few monthsHow fucking new
salome 127k today boisits so easy to predict her number nowadays
alt tabbing game too strong
>>25788221yes, plenty of times
Her voice is not good lol. She losees viewers singing. kek
kek everytime she sings the number drops. You can't make this shit up
>>25788201Nijisanji wasn't dying because they weren't getting GOLD.They were dying because the no. of 10k streams they could put up was dwarfed by what Holo could do.
>>25788286Is there something specific that you'd call Iroha's inner wear? Specifically the top one, not the sarashi
>>25787977>>25788167did yagoo skimp out money on the water graphics? this looks awful.
When's the next 3D debut?
>>25788296That will literally make my day kek
>>25788194salome is starting a minute early just to grudgepost you
>>25788335Chloe next week
>>25787969Of course not you moron. Astel and Roberu are loved more than HoloEN in these threads
>>25787126>100kHoly fuck Niji I kneel, Hololive would never
>>25788296It's just a matter of when, huh?
>>25788274hory sheet.Then I guess this is expected from a holo.Salome still hasn't crossed #6 in the world iirc?
it's because you stop counting as a viewer if your volume is too low or muted
>>25787954Zero worldwide. Really makes you think huh.
>>25788319>>25788320well she has never been the best singer in hololive. I'm surrpised she went for singing at all. Probably management forced it.
>>25788319>>25788320I know we laugh and all but it's still only 5k-ish out of 124k.
>>25788271niceunlike holobronies i like some of the vtubers and not the company
>>2578833513th
>>25788333At this point, I think Cover can do water graphics, since that shit was bad as far back as the Sankisei 3D
>>25788201Granted people say that not because of gold but because niji has many days with less than 5 entries on the tally at all.
>>25788053>>25788064No, both companies still work on their own house tech which btw is way better (both holo and niji) than the vr cheap shit that company offered. It was mostly an experiment thing to try work with them coz after those I think 3 holo and 4 niji concerts (honestly I just remember the marine&kanata and deron&mikoto concerts) they haven't work with them again.
>Sing>Number immediately dropKek
song is over, better open her stream again boys
>>25788242>>25788296she's starting at midnight you dumb fucking mongoloids, now go back to your discord instead of embarrassing yourselves trying to shitstir here
>>25788368maybe one day hololive can get 100K too. don't underestimate them like this anon
>>25788381Sadly the character are tied to the company
>>25788357are those supposed to be leaves?
>>25788384They better not do Lui dirty and leave her last.
>>25788380SEEEEEEEXXXXXXX!!!!
>stops singing>+2kKek
>>25788378Her roomate is a singer you fuck
>>25788445Laplus will be last
As a burger /#/ is hilarious during asian hours. It is literally a /sp/ thread on /vt/I love it
>>25788445Laplus will be last for sure.
>>25788470?????no she is not????wtf is this all about?
>>25788380japanese women are incapable of dancing, please hire choreographers.
Why doesnt she sing sobakasu or 1/2 bro?
>>25788403Anonchama, Cinderella Switch is not Cover's project. That's third-party's project. Also it's going to start again next month https://twitter.com/VarkOfficial/status/1527590549854638081
chloe gold for the month
>>25788484enjoy the horse racing
Chloe next, predict numbers.
>>25788467maybe it's because people tab out at that moment since they can still listen to the singing? that's what I did
>funnelling for next weekyou fags doubted THE numbers generation?
>>25788517...Japanese choreographers?
>chloeforget predict the viewer numbers, just predict the SC
Sex model
>>25788547Big CCV but even bigger SCs
>>25788547170K
>>25788557LMAONo way it will funnel into next week
>>25788547180k
>>25788568There's no way she breaks Fuwas 16M. I'm thinking 12 or 13M.
>>25788403You don't know what you're talking about huh?Cover has only ever used Crypton AR tech and that's because they're buddy-buddy with bushiroad
>>25788589I should have bought
Will they bot Salome to 125K?
>>25788559Korean ones obviously
>>25788547150k ccv and 100k sc
MOTTO
>>25788329This. And no real second liner behind Kuzuha, except chinman who barely streams. Cover has how many top tier on break now? And they still have holos that could grab the audience easily. Niji has Salome now I guess. But depending on a few for numbers isnt good for a company
FANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>2578860220M
Every time
>>25788623No, you shouldn't have. Short it 6 months from now, it'll be dumped
>>25788526desu, This company almost bankrupt but it was revived by Cover put their chuuba in and fully bloom when MiComet's Cinderella Switch happened.
>FANSAMUTED
>numbers going down againrumaobut she's actually butchering the song
>>25788568If it wasnt so relatively close to her birthday I would say she would get the second highest SC ever after Coco's grad. But atleast some of her paypigs are probably still a bit spent, so "only" a top 5 SC stream all time
> Singing> Numbers go downthis seems to confirm the tab-out cull more than a judgement of her singing.
>>25788638wtf
>>25788638kimoi
>>25788189Trending #1Salome gonna die for #6 in trending
Someone clip her bouncing. It's cute asf
>>25788547Probably around 100k. Won't cross 120k.
>>25788638Kimoi
>>25788375>>Salome #6 ahhh nijisanji no1
>english study 97 waitingReclining desuwa~
>>25788739>>25788746>>25788799
>>25788201Who will save over half of nijisanji?
Is Salome is below 80k holofags are gonna nut
No merch? I'm pretty sure all the old debuts have merch
>>25788638get this IRL 3D shit out of my sight!
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>>25788861I hope she's under 50k so she never panders to EOPs again
>>25788857What do they need saving from?
>>25788861Salome's probably gonna hold 100k average for all of June.
>>25788864No they don't
>>25774882no, this is an actual IPO Scam that will crash hard
>>25788910Being fired after Salome mogs 90% of the company
I wanna see Chloe's end card with her handwriting.
Is anyone keeping an eye for the funnel?
watch as no funnel from iroha just like salome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdo-GkPAaRcFor fucks this this is so blatant and shameless. You want the EOP audience too? YOU CANT HAVE IT ALL.
>>25788910Anon, their only income is from ticket/merch sales and YT so low number correlates to low salary and they don;t even get monthly salary like holos
>>25788910their shareholder
If Salome hits 100k there's definitely something shady going on with her numbers
>>25789011No one cares about Salome except you, and you only care because you can use her to shitpost.
anyone keeping tabs on kaela membership?
>>25789010Retard
>>25788861>>25788823It's an english learning stream.It's going to get her lowest CCV just because of that.Of course, holofags are so mindbroken that will cope about anything.>>25788983Prime example of holotrannies coping.
>>25788861Hilarious how this thread always said >We respect numbers, big numbers = good, quality doesnt matter, no matter what, no matter whoAnd then Salome comes around and anons are busting their pants about her "only" teaching 80k CCV
>>25789047Has she dipped below 100K yet?Except from her first few streams of course
>>25789100its a jork
>>25775678The Japanese vtuber market doesn't even have 4 million people in it
Iroha's still getting akas
>>25789011if she breaks 127k on english study stream, i call bullshit
>>25789063She only changed her posts from Vox to Salome lmao. What a simpleton
>>25789115because salome's numbers are fishy as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XChUTud4fDshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XChUTud4fDshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XChUTud4fDsGAIIIIIISSSSSS ORCA ON THE TERRY, PREASE SUBSCAIBU
Salome will start 1 minute before midnight and reach 126k