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>> No.25754233
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>>25754221
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.25754241
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.25754279

A reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.

>> No.25754283

hey rannianon you're back!

>> No.25754325
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>114,132: Salome (Nijisanji)
>108,308: Salome (Nijisanji)
>71,446: Miko (Hololive)
>63,628: Masaru (Nijisanji)
>33,418: Watame (Hololive)
>23,162: Gura (Hololive)
>22,659: Shion (Hololive)
>16,839: Ange (Nijisanji)
>16,305: Ayame (Hololive)
>14,703: Haneru (774 Inc.)
>14,182: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,567: Met (774 Inc.)
>12,557: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,355: Hololive (Hololive)
>12,275: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,081: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,766: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,521: Subaru (Hololive)
>10,647: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,541: Mysta (Nijisanji)

>> No.25754367
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>>25754325
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku

>PER COMPANY
5x: Nijisanji
3x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
5x: Salome
1x: Haachama, Mio, Watame

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
106x: Hololive
44x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
9x: Salome
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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>>25754221
TWITCH TALLY OF 07 June: >>25743352
TWITCH TALLY OF 08 June: >>25743417
JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD: >>25743472

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/dsw/ thread?

>> No.25755277

>>25754325
>>25754367
How long do you guys think it'll take her to become the new top subbed chuuba?

Or will her growth slow down before it happens like Chloe's did?

>> No.25755554

Do you guys remember Pekora?

>> No.25755611

>>25755554
didn't she retire?

>> No.25755632

>>25755277
1 month

>> No.25755763

>>25755277
It might never happen. The pace is looking pretty good for the moment but it can't last forever. Will be interesting to see how much more fresh blood Salome can find and convert to numbers.

>> No.25755854

>>25755277
Her growth is very linear. They'll just keep on adding 50k-60k subs until whatever. So at this rate, it's two months.

>> No.25755903

>>25755763
so what will happen when neew blood stops?

>> No.25756047

>>25755277
I say this as someone that finds her growth wildly amusing.
It's probably going to start slowing down once she hits 1.5m+.
Unless she starts getting shoutouts from big JP names or hits national news media, I don't think it will continue to go upwards.
That or she somehow captivates the EN audience (Eng learning streams anyone?) which are probably destined to fail by design since no real chuuba has stuck to doing EN reps.

>> No.25756123

Imagine salome ccv is
Pekora ccv + marine ccv + korone ccv +aqua ccv (when they rest)

>> No.25756140

>>25755554
I would be very concerned if the first stream after the break her voice is still bad.

>> No.25756217

>>25756123
Umm...Let's see when they come back.

>> No.25756232

>>25756047
I don't think she can attract EN viewers to watch her but at least she can attract them to subscribe her

>> No.25756299

>>25756047
Nobody sticks to doing EN reps because you lose JP viewers faster than you pick up EN ones by spamming English streams, and there's currently still more people on the JP side who'll watch vtubers and give them money

>> No.25756390

>>25756299
Such as Lui holox

>> No.25756799

So why salome 1 mil celebration is the same number as her regular streams? Normally event is around 1.5-3x the normal stream.

>> No.25756853

Did Gura's VODs unfuck themselves? 400k for a minecra stream within 24 hours on the last two is much more in line with her old numbers than the eyebrow raising VOD growth the last two minecra streams had (they only have half decent numbers now, weeks later0

>> No.25756943

>>25756853
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxCtO5sjXSqTwmgfStIhAg12hpvXCk6zi0
got posted on lsf and hit front page. 40k views off it so thats why. but 360k and more to come it still great regardless

>> No.25757095

I highly doubt she will ever get to four mil, the fact that she's basically monolingual makes that a certainty.

However, she's basically the epitome of vtubing as her personality is literally that of an anime character. The market got too oversaturated with all kinds of vtubers, many who were no different from regular streamers apart from their avatar. Having someone go back to the basics and doing it well is really refreshing for a lot of people.

As such I do hope she does well. Records are meant to be broken and we know Gura doesn't even enjoy being the most subscribed vtuber

>> No.25757121

>>25754367
>5x: Nijisanji
>5x: Salome
No wonder Nijimembers are seething. She is more popular and successful than everyone else in their company which is something they hate seeing.
Salome is forcing the Nijiniggers to recognise that there hasn't ever been anything like a Hololive bias that they have insisted exists and that anyone in Nijisanji can be successful if they are actually good streamers who people want to watch and paints all the Nijis before Salome as abject failures

>> No.25757169

En3 doko?

>> No.25757208

>>25757169
cancelled for good after salami appeared

>> No.25757234

I've updated the all time highest SC streams list with three major changes, one is that this list will be kept in yen from now on, I prefer to work in USD but the conversion rate has gotten so ridiculous that it's incredibly misleading for the recent streams, two is that this is now cross-checked between all reliable sources of SC data to make sure nothing was missed, and three it's expanded from top 25 to top 50.
>1. Kiryu Coco graduation - ¥34,189,734 (21/07/01)
>2. Fushimi Gaku 3D reveal - ¥23,764,752 (22/03/18)
>3. Fuwa Minato 3D reveal - ¥17,815,097 (21/06/04)
>4. Ibrahim 3D reveal - ¥15,956,288 (21/07/02)
>5. Kaida Haru 3D reveal - ¥15,615,000 (22/05/06)
>6. Fuwa Minato 3D live w/Akina - ¥15,385,090 (22/05/08)
>7. Shirayuki Tomoe 3D reveal - ¥14,682,563 (21/06/25)
>8. Rindou Mikoto NJU 2021 Part 2 - ¥11,751,677 (21/12/31)
>9. Nagao Kei 3D reveal - ¥11,607,000 (22/04/30)
>10. Suzuhara Lulu graduation - ¥10,705,523 (21/06/30)
>11. Sakamata Chloe monetization - ¥10,554,070 (21/12/10)
>12. Kagami Hayato 3D reveal - ¥10,269,624 (20/08/10)
>13. Kanae birthday 2021 - ¥9,052,379 (21/07/07)
>14. Kiryu Coco last zatsudan - ¥8,373,448 (21/06/30)
>15. Kizuna AI Last Live - ¥8,150,621 (22/02/26)
>16. Leos Vincent birthday 2022 - ¥7,611,916 (22/03/08)
>17. Saegusa Akina 3D reveal - ¥7,523,937 (20/12/25)
>18. Genzuki Tojiro 3D reveal - ¥7,246,996 (22/05/13)
>19. Fuwa Minato birthday 2022 - ¥7,086,001 (22/04/18)
>20. Ookami Mio 1 million subs - ¥7,075,682 (22/06/07)
>21. Kuzuha birthday 2020 - ¥6,893,265 (20/11/10)
>22. Uruha Rushia 1 million subs - ¥6,769,995 (21/03/02)
>23. Melissa Kinrenka graduation - ¥6,768,508 (22/05/31)
>24. Houshou Marine 1 million subs - ¥6,649,270 (21/01/18)
>25. Kusunoki Sio 3D reveal - ¥6,609,505 (20/06/20)
>26. Lauren Iroas monetization - ¥6,585,865 (21/08/06)
>27. Nun Bora graduation - ¥6,404,286 (21/11/30)
>28. Kagami Hayato birthday 2021 - ¥6,253,439 (21/12/01)
>29. Kazama Iroha monetization - ¥6,207,438 (21/12/09)
>30. Mori Calliope birthday 2021 - ¥6,138,607 (21/04/04)
>31. Leos Vincent monetization - ¥6,113,279 (21/08/13)
>32. Sakamata Chloe birthday 2022 - ¥6,092,408 (22/05/18)
>33. Furen E Lustario 3D reveal - ¥5,977,503 (21/08/28)
>34. Laplus Darknesss monetization - ¥5,938,711 (21/12/08)
>35. Yukihana Lamy 1 million subs - ¥5,731,365 (22/05/21)
>36. Kiryu Coco monetization - ¥5,723,819 (20/02/11)
>37. Gawr Gura birthday 2021 - ¥5,658,118 (21/06/21)
>38. Vox Akuma birthday 2022 - ¥5,641,998 (22/04/25)
>39. Momosuzu Nene 3D reveal - ¥5,637,726 (21/04/18)
>40. Rindou Mikoto NJU 2021 Part 1 - ¥5,557,971 (21/12/31)
>41. Sakamata Chloe birthday countdown 2022 - ¥5,556,941 (22/05/17)
>42. Amane Kanata 2nd anniversary - ¥5,487,266 (21/12/27)
>43. Kuzuha Vsaikyou 4 win - ¥5,484,039 (22/04/17)
>44. Hyakumantenbara Salome monetization - ¥5,445,262 (22/06/01)
>45. Otogibara Era graduation - ¥5,380,891 (21/03/10)
>46. Kiryu Coco 3D reveal - ¥5,358,071 (20/06/27)
>47. Saegusa Akina birthday 2021 - ¥5,352,842 (21/09/01)
>48. Fuwa Minato birthday 2021 - ¥5,352,028 (21/04/17)
>49. Ange Katrina Sanbaka 3rd anniversary - ¥5,299,803 (22/03/26)
>50. Usada Pekora new outfit reveal - ¥5,282,097 (21/12/19)
I highly suspect this will need updating a lot over the next week or so with holoX 3D finally happening, also Mio at #20 is still just blowing my mind...

>> No.25757282

Also probably way too early but
June superchats so far
>Salome - $91,520
>Mio - $54,308
>Watame - $40,174
>Masaru - $35,615

>> No.25757422

>>25757095
ARASHI is Japan's nation wide male idol group, the current fastest 1M sub record in Japan. They are around 3.25M subs in their official channel, Salome can set that as a goal.
And Gura doesn't have the same push in medias like what Ai or Salome has.

>> No.25757621

>>25757422
It's not impossible, just highly unlikely. There's only around 20 japanese youtubers who have managed to get over 4 million subscribers.

>> No.25757856

Is this fucking miitopia going to do better than the goddamn first

>> No.25757945

>>25757856
GREEN LAMY SLOT

>> No.25758094

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGSyM2Dcv7M
>karaoke offcollab
>on Mori's channel
This one will get much better numbers

>> No.25758155

>>25758094
yeah I'm thinking 11k

>> No.25758195

>>25756943
Why is there so many Forsen jokes whenever Gura has a post in LSF?

>> No.25758244

>>25756799
Silly anon. Bots don't multiply on celebration streams.

>> No.25758263

>>25758195
she mentioned him once during her Minecraft speedrun stream last year and that somehow evolved into a joke with his fans that she is forsen

>> No.25758467

>>25756799
Nijisanji forgot to increase the view farm plan.

>> No.25758568

Faunaschizo doko

>> No.25758595

Fauna 9k. Actually higher CCV on this second one in a shorter amount of time. I'm shocked.

>> No.25758624
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>see nicer and nicer NijiEN female peaks
>wow an incline?
>bitches are just spam raiding each other
pathetic, can't want to see nijis claim this is definitive proof of an incline just look at these higher peaks! But then again Niji themselves cook numbers in the IPO, why would I expect more from their fans

>> No.25758636

>>25756799
https://vrabi.net/channel/UCgIfLpQvelloDi8I0Ycbwpg
Her streams were usually 90k. 100k during weekends.

>> No.25758666

>>25758624
>get raids
>still doesnt get into wheelchair tally

>> No.25758671
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The final yab

>> No.25758677

>>25758094
Maybe 20k, yeah. Timeslot is still dogshit

>> No.25758719
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Current streams.

>> No.25758723

>>25758624
At this point they are just $11'ing each other with the raids

>> No.25758779

>>25758666
When a midget raids a midget nothing changes because they're still both midgets.

>> No.25758819

>>25758719
What the hell is going on with Shu?

>> No.25758859

>>25758624
>lost all of the audience in under 20 minutes
What is wrong with Niji's box?

>> No.25758877

>>25758719
NijiEN girls are actually inclining

>> No.25758897

>>25758819
Finana

>> No.25759230

>>25758859
There were 4 other streams starting, so she went from the only one streaming to overlapping with Pomubuff content and a big Valorant collab

>> No.25759270
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anykara 6100JPY ikuzo!!!
>200billion yen market cap
Why didn't you invest, anon... why didn't you listen???
It could've been YOU eating ramen with CEO Riku four years ago, investing in the second Anycolor seed round.
Ah... you missed out, and now you are paying the price... the share price.
It's not too late, this is bitcoin at $100 moment. You think "it's over". This is just the beginning.

>> No.25759274

Fauna, please reach over 10k

>> No.25759312

>>25759270
oh how are they doing so far? i havent checked the threads for almost 24 hours

>> No.25759323

>>25758624
>oh noooo why are they taking advantage of a new youtube function why can't they just get numbers by existing like Hololive? this is basically botting

>> No.25759341

>>25759270
NIJI DORYAAAAAAAA

>> No.25759390

>>25758719
>it's high number for pomu
let me guess there is some boy in her stream or she got a Z

>> No.25759392

>>25758719
Fauna still going up, might touch 10k on fucking Miitopia
Is it her consistent time slot like Ina or what

>> No.25759417

>>25759274
>>25759392
Ame decided she was going to guerilla in 30 minutes, not gonna happen

>>25759390
Nah it's just buff content.

>> No.25759438

>>25758719
The ruin of Niji En

>> No.25759442

>>25758819
I had no idea why he was getting in the 7k range in the first place considering Valorant sucks and he was sitting at 2k-3k CCV for a good while after his debut

>> No.25759478

>>25759390
Tomodachi life is her biggest buff content
She got 5k last sunday with it.
It is just very popular with girls so she has a bunch of tourists from luxiem watching those streams that never would watch her otherwise

>> No.25759516

>>25756232
Im sure she will get a lot of LiveTL.

>> No.25759530

>>25759390
Pomu doesn't use men to incline

>> No.25759534

https://www.pcgamer.com/hp-omen-27u-gaming-monitor-review/
Nice

>> No.25759573

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY68nX8OolU

Debuffson is coming

>> No.25759615

>>25759312
https://twitter.com/michsuzu/status/1534677662287151104
I think this sums it up
>At the time of the final sign yesterday, the market capitalization was 105.5 billion yen, which is the highest among listed Japanese entertainment
I'm sorry I want to believe in Nijisanji but this has overpumped IPO written all over it

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her highest like on membership post.

>> No.25759707
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>>25759573

>> No.25759721
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>>25759534
kek

>> No.25759765

If Salome gets anything above 90k for an English learning stream I'll probably join the "this is bullshit" camp simply because Hololive which is EOP central gets dogshit numbers for English learning streams

>> No.25759810

>>25759621
>SEAnig leaking membership content

You're not welcome here

>> No.25759809

>>25759615
idk a shit about /biz/ or moonrunes is the pic any good? I look a lot of red numbers

>> No.25759861

>>25759765
Retard

>> No.25759873

>>25759615
Surely someone will turn Tazumi in to the authorities for fraud!

>> No.25759898

Fauna 9.7k

>> No.25759920

>>25759898
she has 20 mins to get 10k before ame

>> No.25759922
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Late, but still wanted to post for
>>25743514
She was U-uohh no more... for 1 stream.

Funniest part was, she's so short irl that the model's hips were bending very hard to try and match proportions.

>>25759621
re-release when?

>> No.25759957

>>25759615
is this Taco Bell marketing strategy again or something ?

>> No.25759963

>>25759920
She dropped because people keep alt tabbing when she stops doing fights lmao.

>> No.25760004

>>25759920

50/50

>> No.25760033

>>25759392
Fauna is positioning herself as one of the top council girls:

She's consistent on her timeslot.
She's relatively yab free.
She's mostly harmless.
Blends well in collabs.
Somedays she's the only one streaming.
She often plays unique games so people tired of FOTM cana go to her.

And last but not least: Saplings might be crybabies but they're very harmless and rarely if ever pick a fight with others. Maybe they're too busy missing Fauna and being self absorbed to cause trouble.

>> No.25760062

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb4Nn2jqg_I

EN gold

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>>25759810
>reddit spacing
take a good look in the mirror

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this is legitimately not explainable without bots

>> No.25760146

>>25760062
faming gold

>> No.25760164

>>25760062
>5k

>> No.25760202

>>25760033
is it her age?

>> No.25760217

>>25760105
Find where the bots are and report her to Susan then lol I'm sure you can do it since there's literally no other explanation

>> No.25760218

>>25760062
Mysta finally panicked and is pulling ideias for streams, Gotta save the numbers until Vox returns

>> No.25760264

>>25760218
What if the peak is lower than Fauna's first tier list stream?

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>>25760105
This is a nip streamer with far fewer foreigners watching

>> No.25760320

>>25760264
What if it peaks lower than Fauna's current stream?

>> No.25760325

>>25760218
He has done this shit since his debut

>> No.25760430

>>25759810
membership content not allowed in /vt/?

>> No.25760452

>>25760264
>>25760320
a sweet meltdown and menhera attack on social media

>> No.25760456

>>25760317
>1 stream a week for 5 years
Which video game company, TV channel, or rotating idol group is this

>> No.25760491

>>25757282
SC tally seems kind of worthless for some members. Watame has been getting hundreds of memberships per stream. Easily over 2000 in the last few days.

>> No.25760511

>>25759809
it means nijisanjification is accelerating at an unprecedented pace.
>/biz/ crap incoming
It's a table for the bookmaking. Think an auction, but people are putting up bids to buy fractions of nijisanji. It marks shares as being sold to crazy people that are going to buy at most expensive price, then goes down the list until finished matching sales for all IPO shares. If the matching runs through and it indicates price can be hiked while still selling the available shares, the price raises and the matching process runs through again. This happens in 10 minute intervals at 180 yen per increase. Once shit gets too expensive and people fold, the trading begins for real.

>> No.25760542

>>25758595
She's a consistent streamer and is reaping the benefits.

>> No.25760592

my fauna is inclining.....

>> No.25760629

>>25760542
If only bae learned to do this to save her floor.

>> No.25760644

>>25760105
Viewfarm can
But it's not illegal. You can do it if u have money.

>> No.25760714

>>25760542
FAUNA THE SAVING GRACE OF COUNCIL

>> No.25760717

>>25760491
So another $7.5k given current exchange rates? It's a nice addition but it certainly doesn't render $40k SC worthless

>> No.25760754

>>25760452
He's never melted down about not winning EN Gold
he melts down about more important things like people making fun of League of Legends players, and women calling Mika a whore

>> No.25760769

>>25760456
nta but pretty sure it's korekore

>> No.25760794
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25760794

>Both 1M celebration stream
>Superstreamer Salami lost to Hagwolf
Totally not bots btw

>> No.25760820

>>25760794
see >>25757282

>> No.25760876

Did Fauna schizo off himself already?

>> No.25760897

>>25760820
>Monetization month

>> No.25760913

>>25760876
Anon why do you care? It's a good thing he's fucking gone.

>> No.25760915

>>25760820
Salami can't get Chloe's old SC numbers?

>> No.25760948

>>25759920
get fucked anon
debuffson comes to the building

>> No.25760991

>>25760820
is ok for monetization but wihtout SC readings or any kind of fanabse interaction she wont be a SC contender.

>> No.25761019

>>25760915
You have to hardcore pander to your fanbase for those kinds of numbers, Rushia, Vox, Chloe, etc.

>> No.25761023

>>25760876
He will start screeching the moment Ame starts and Fauna is "overlapping" her.

>> No.25761032

>>25760754
yeah sure ,he never panicked when he can't hit 10K

>> No.25761034

>>25760717
Sure, but I imagine you see the problem with ignoring them when a number of her normal streams have gone along the lines of 50/50 SC/membership.

>> No.25761143

Legit question, /#/ has all this evidence stating reasons why Salome is botted.
Why has no one submitted it to someone that can be the judge of foul play or not?
Are people scared to find out the actual truth or something? Is it going to suddenly make things worse if whoever judges her channel finds that there's no foul play at work whatsoever?

>> No.25761293

>>25761143
You larping tourists need to fuck off.

>> No.25761325

>>25761143
Why would you need to report botted streams? They don't hurt anyone anyway. The general consensus for botted streams are just let it slide anyway. This seems to be the truth even in Twitch

>> No.25761349

>>25761019
It's kinda early, but did she beat any HoloX members SC from monetization.

>> No.25761361

>>25761143
No one has any evidence and anyone who claims to have evidence is 90% a false flagger setting up a slam dunk for themselves so they can post funny screencaps on discord or Twitter. We already know what botted streams look like from Luxiem and this ain't it.
Also concern trolls like you should be banned but I'll be nice and give a proper response just this once.

>> No.25761397
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literally what the fuck happened, she's still playing the game

>> No.25761409

>>25760915

No way chole got 104,000 $ in her first sc day

1chloe sc = 180 nijisanjijp sc

>> No.25761423

>>25761325
>botted chubbas will became the new meta
well shit....

>> No.25761473

>>25761325
To get undeniable proof backed by an actual authority that "this channel is being botted", purge said bots and suddenly her subcount drops below 200k.
>>25761361
I was actually being serious given how many anons /here/ have various pictures and graphs such as the unique chatters one. I legit wanted to know why no one is doing anything with it, but thanks for answering at least with a serious answer.

>> No.25761491

>>25761397
no luxiem on chat
sorry pomu but 4.5K it's just for males accessories

>> No.25761537

>>25761349
Only Koyori and Lui.
For monetization month, Lui has the lowest with 75k and the second lowest is Laplus with 135k.
Koyori has 143k, Iroha has 201k and Chloe has 277k. I doubt she beats even Iroha for monetization month.

>> No.25761597

>>25761473
Unique chatters proves nothing and it's all you niggers have, now off yourself or fuck off back to your discord instead of shitstirring here

>> No.25761706

>>25761397
weirdest drop i've seen. Her 3DS crashed again near that point

>> No.25761718

>>25761473
Even legit subs get culled. Do you think sub cull would be undeniable proof of botting?

>> No.25761762

>>25761397
lazu actually shares fanabse with noctyx or rather the viceversa.
so they cant stand overlapping them nowdays.
specially uki/shu that has all those new women that started watching the girls.

>> No.25761768

>>25760794
This is a worse comparison than the number of unique chatter. Unlike chatting, SC is not free, I will not spend my money on someone who I know very little about. Mio has been here for a while now, while Salome is very new.

>> No.25761775

>>25759765
English learning streams are 90% Japanese and 10% haha cute funny English words, the majority of viewers are still Japanese, Koyori did it with a chat full of japs and her number are still the same as always

>> No.25761835

>>25760991
If compare with holox monetization month
1.chloe
2.laplus
3.iroha
4.koyori = salome
5.lui

>> No.25761837

Anyone have a plan to present all the evidence of her botting to YouTube?

>> No.25761901

Reminder that Ouma Kirara (median CCV ~200) has made more SC than Gura this year, anyone trying to imply the two stats correlate is clinically braindead

>> No.25761912

>>25761775
She had like 2k viewers

>> No.25761972

this what /#/ should watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8NiK0Fv9nM

>> No.25762013

>>25761537
Huh, didn't expect Iroha to be second in SC for monetization month, all I ever see about her is doomposting. Did she drop off recently or something?

>> No.25762061

>>25761325
so if there is nothing anyone can do against
What stop riku and every unscrupulous vtuber agents boted their chubbas to get sponsorship money?
that's look too easy to cheats

>> No.25762070

>>25762013
Iroha was a contender for Holox #2.

>> No.25762099

>>25758595
Who knew when you actually stream interesting and unique games, you get viewers.

>> No.25762102

>>25760754
Just loser . That all

>> No.25762244

>>25760754
But Mika is a whore

>> No.25762258

>>25761537
She can't passed koyori , cuz she not read sc .

>> No.25762320

>>25762061
Sponsors don't just believe numbers at face value. Why do you think it took a year until Holo sponsors showed up even though 2020 was the peak of Hololive.

>> No.25762330

>>25762013
SC-wise she's still 4th in Holo for the year behind Chloe, Koyori and Lamy, and unlike the other two holoXs she hasn't had her birthday yet

>> No.25762363

>>25762258
>right , she got 10k $ in 1mill celebrate stream

>> No.25762453
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the samefagging is more blatant when the english is atrocious in both posts

>> No.25762462

>>25762363
>Salami can't even beat the Luxfaggots with all buffs
Pump and dump incoming

>> No.25762480
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25762480

I rest my case.

>> No.25762518

>>25762480
Where are the males?

>> No.25762525

>>25762480
Pomu's been reading superchats for the past 20 minutes

>> No.25762542

>>25761912
I remember it was her normal 7k-8k ccv tho, she also have more than 12k or something in the collab with Bae

>> No.25762579

>>25761972
suzuki has better numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWa6atKYwoI
>tfw numberfagging on jp /biz/ numberfags
we need to go deeper

>> No.25762592

>>25754325
06/08
>Hololive 11 (HoloEN 3 / HoloID 0)
>Nijisanji 7 (NijiEN 1)
>774 2
>NoriPro 0
>Indies 0

June total
>Hololive 104 (HoloEN 10 / HoloID 7)
>Nijisanji 58 (NijiEN 8)
>Indies 6
>Neoporte 5
>774 5
>NoriPro 2
>VSPO! 1

>> No.25762694

>>25757169
wav 6 first

>> No.25762701
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looks like some of the early watchers/tourists came back for the 1m celebration. also starting to see the split between zatsudan watcher and regular game watcher. like others have said, the english stream will be the real test

>> No.25762719

>>25762363
10k in 1 million stream...don't lie holo

>> No.25762781
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and miko wwe
towa luna debuff is strong

>> No.25762801

>>25761397
First her 3DS died
Then she spent like 10 min just typing something boring
Then she said that she was ending way before she actually ended the stream

>> No.25762805

>>25761972
Actually considering moving some of my IRA into this if I can figure out how to trade on the Tokyo stock exchange. Expecting the IPO price to crash and stabilize at a lower price kinda like the Facebook IPO though, so I'll wait a little for that to happen.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Zeroblade/status/1534360516273242112
Btw here's a translated summary of some of the slides that got posted yesterday. Mostly not very interesting stuff, they project a year over year growth of 20% which is decent if they can actually do it. Also apparently they've noted a risk in overdependence on top talents but apparently they have systems in place to make sure livers don't try and leave, this is probably addressing all the high profile retirements.

>> No.25762819

>>25762579
>あとりっくんに株主総会でロアちゃんの今後について聞くとか
this nipple guy still not forgiven ?

>> No.25762831

>>25762592
>>hololive 11
Bots 10
Real 1

>> No.25762859

>>25762805
>apparently they have systems in place to make sure livers don't try and leave
that sounds scary as hell. wouldn't wish niji on the worst liver

>> No.25762982

>>25762701
>>25762781
Source your data

>> No.25763064

>>25762579
>read chat with mtl
>talking about scam
are they coping?

>> No.25763102

>>25762805
So the recent graduations was probably because the Nijis got forced to sign contracts with monetary stipulations regarding leaving. Smells like black company

>> No.25763107

>>25761901
>anyone trying to imply the two stats correlate is clinically braindead
Of course they correlate you moron.
Do you actually think if you randomly pick a hundred 4k vtubers and a hundred 2view vtubers the 4k ones wont have way more superchats on average?
It just isnt directly correlated in that 5k always gets more than 3k that always gets more than 1k etc.
But to say there is no correlation between CCV and SC at all is "clinically braindead"

>> No.25763215

https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1534696795422330880?s=21&t=3BSIUyqiPIwUz79Gs66opA
If it wasn’t obvious with Laplus and Gura before, something tells me that Duolingo is becoming a giant headache to deal with permission wise.

>> No.25763315

>>25763215
They should do what Bae, Sora and some of the stars did. Actually study on stream.

>> No.25763318

>>25761901
You should probably learn what correlation means..

>> No.25763337

>>25762982
i shared my method last time
video ids are on the chart
download yt chat log, count unique author.id between streams
the numbers will be lower than what vrabi tracks since they use live chat data. that's hard to replicate unless you setup your own system to capture the chat while streams are live. my method is replicable by anyone

>> No.25763340

>>25762819
In the news about anycolor I saw some speculation that punishments would be more severe for that sort of thing in the future. But I think nipplekun is going to be OK because it is in the past, all is forgiven

>> No.25763349

>>25762859
>>25763102

>nijisanji is freedom lol

>Hololive is literally the dream company

>> No.25763383

>>25759721
LOL

>> No.25763387

>>25762805
>if I can figure out how to trade on the Tokyo stock exchange
IBKR let you trade on nip but you have to enable in account permissions

>> No.25763466

>People are legit comparing Hololive-brand 1 million celebration stream which are carefully crafted to maximize superchat with Salome eating one package of microwaved sausage now.

>> No.25763504

>>25761325
They hurt people who want someone else to win the CCV competition of course.

>> No.25763576

Fauna hasn't dipped under 9k even with Ame slowly increasing CCV. It's so weird.

>> No.25763600

>>25760511
I'm gonna do the oldest trick in the book, don't invest in stocks.

>> No.25763654

>>25763576
fauna's floor is around 7k. her main overlap is with gura not ame

>> No.25763756

>>25763466
I know right, people are so dumb.

>> No.25763789

>>25763466
This thread's relationship with SC numbers is fucking hilarious, if it proves what they want it to they're vitaly important but as soon as it doesn't they don't matter at all

>> No.25763816

>>25763756
Don't reply to yourself, it's kinda sad.

>> No.25763825

when new sell bid entered the IPO, price dropped to 3500. now it's back up at 4700.
Will it reach double 2434 (4868)? Probably lol

>> No.25763908

>>25763466
lolling

>> No.25763937
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25763937

how many for her tonight?

>> No.25763941

>>25763337
Without sources your pictures doesn't make any sense

>> No.25763969

>>25763937
uh...

>> No.25763981

>>25760511
are /nasfaq/ residents actually putting real money on 5032?

>> No.25764027

>>25761901
Astel holostar has made more SC than kuzuha nijisanji in 30 days ago

>> No.25764048

>>25762805
Why would Kuzuha/Kanae stay in Niji if they can do better outside of it? They're both saviour and unityfags, they'll do well becoming someone like Kson. They'll earn a steady amount of money even after being an indie. Is it because they were signed to a label now that they have an obligation for Niji?

>> No.25764069

any nijisenpai fans bashing salome? i want drama

>> No.25764132
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25764132

STARTING PRICE REACHED: 4810
LET THE TRADES BEGIN!!

>> No.25764147

>>25763941
what to source? all 50k unique ids?

>> No.25764157

>>25762781
I assume going up against Subaru and Bakatare Circus probably didn't help much either.

>> No.25764246

>>25763215
No idea why they'd be having trouble with it. Some of the best advertisement Duolingo has ever gotten.

>> No.25764248

>>25764048
they're probably locked into 5 year contracts with penalties if they try to leave

>> No.25764288

>>25764027
And thanks to who ever posted his 3D here, it got me to give stars a go.

>> No.25764347

>>25764248
>5 years
That'd be absolutely atrocious and people would be stupid to sign.

>> No.25764357

I read that Anykara has a large market evaluation, even more than other Japanese entertainment companies here but I'm too lazy to reply to that post since I'm on mobile. Did nips really think that it'd be a good idea to pump money into Niji or do they like playing with stocks? They have a VTA but Salome appeared out of nowhere with big numbers, even bigger than ranunculus. Do they not question that?

>> No.25764416

>>25764048
You have to cut your little finger and give it to riku if you want to leave nijisanji.Of course, now melissa only has one little finger. That sad bro that sad TT

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25764440

>>25764248

>> No.25764456

>>25764347
5 years ago, the only real Vtuber company someone could join.

>> No.25764466

>>25764048
Well the label part probably factors in yeah, since they're signed as the character which is 100% owned by Niji. Similar situation as for why I don't think Mori leaves Hololive as long as she still has her Universal music deal. Actually I dunno how royalties and payments would work if you decided to go indie and retire your character. Does the corpo just take everything?
As for other reasons, I imagine it has to do with the incentives they hint at. I guess it's a similar question re why kson left cover while other talents decided to stay. Don't think Anycolor will say much about that publically so you'd need people like Melissa or Lulu to spill.

>> No.25764474

>>25764357
abenomics is still in play
why did softbank invest in things that were clearly scams? how much did they lose this past two years?

>> No.25764480

>>25764440
i did say probably you retard

>> No.25764552

>>25764048
Didn’t they both sign another contract to stay in Niji in exchange for doing more “idol”/performer activities?

>> No.25764664

>>25764357
Look at how many people fall for the most basic crypto pump and dump scams every day. Or how many people put their life savings into GameStop because they saw big numbers and expected the numbers to keep going up.
Anyway I doubt most people are looking too hard into Salome numbers and even if the numbers are a little sus, YouTube has said nothing about it so there's no reason for the average investor to suspect anything.
Also comparing to ranunculus is unfair, they flopped hard.

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25764767

Watching Fauna on a big TV screen in the morning while it's raining outside is nice but I'm getting horny because of her right now.

Also, the retention is good for her.

>> No.25764768

>>25763576
Too strong HoloEN

>> No.25764770

>>25764357
>IPO Scam?
IPO SCAM!
Shitposting aside, there's a lot of people watching this and probably throwing their 2cents into it. It's going to need time to reach an actual stable price that makes sense given their financials and income model (mostly) but there's likely to be some overvaluation imo.

>> No.25764887

nips buyer just neet doing daytrading

>> No.25764891

>>25764770
Because it is. I could place money in a tech company hoping it'll blow up someday, but not to an entertainment one which is rife with yabes and an autistic fanbase, even if that fanbase gives you lots of money.

>> No.25764899

>>25760794
>Both 1M celebration stream
KEK they are just a regular biohazard streams

>> No.25764904

>>25764357
Not a single soul outside of this thread thinks Salome's numbers aren't real, make of that what you will, maybe they're all wrong and the schizos /here/ are actually onto something, but that's what the situation is

>> No.25764906
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25764906

repost: IPO listing of significant shareholders. Not sure on who is subject to sale restrictions and when they lift, but expect Venture Capital fund holdings to decrease.
As for some speculation, I think Bilibili and Sony will buy more.
The price has raised to 5300. This makes me think that these shareholders haven't / can't sell yet because it's too high and you'd expect supply to push the price downward, to more like 3500 if they started to sell.
Nijisanji is $500 million company.

>> No.25764986

>>25761423
Just like Youtube itself then

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25765036

best 1st collab partner for Salome? I know King would be the best for numbers but any other thought /#/ bros?

>> No.25765090

>>25765036
Debi.

>> No.25765103

>>25765036
Iinchou of course

>> No.25765118

so will Salome's numbers plummet now or does she just stop streaming?

>> No.25765158

>>25765036
play apex with Debi

>> No.25765176

>>25764906
>$500 m company
>Net profits of 12B this year
>Hololive already got $15M in net profit last year
Sigh, I don't see Anycolor making a lot of profits unless they make a predatory gacha with their money. If they did that, Vtubing could well be called dead.

>> No.25765204

>Fauna end
>Ame end
What the fu-

>> No.25765206
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25765206

This counts as numbers, right?

>> No.25765253

>>25765036
Mito to finally get her to 1M
Feels like king's audience is just too different

>> No.25765252

Nijisanji strategy
>increase only 1 vtuber (salome) has cvv peak highest for build an IPO base .

Hololive stategy
>Make all members have avg ccv 10k+ starting from JP first. (Grn0-holox)

Idk which one is better

>> No.25765262

>>25765206
Yes.
Now someone needs to go to /biz/ and make a thread since trading has started.

>> No.25765275

>>25764899
ESL retard.

>> No.25765291

>>25765206
it only counts when its hololive that is doing well

>> No.25765321

Thinking about it Salome really is admirable, she's a proud and talented numberfag and isn't ashamed about wanting them 4 millions subscribers.
Sad that we probably arent gonna get a numberfag in HoloEN anytime soon since chasing numbers is seen more scorn here.

>> No.25765323

>>25765118
It'll take a while for it to plummet to keep the facade going. They have new funds now so they can keep the facade going for as long as they can for Salome then move on to the new male gen debut.

>> No.25765343
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>makes it into the tally because of a fucking retarded Z

nothing personnel

>> No.25765365

>>25765036
Salome vs Mito.
In with the new
Out with the old

>> No.25765368

Cover IPO so we can compare their financials when?

>> No.25765385

>>25765036
elira daisenpai, English study stream

>> No.25765387

>>25765206
We did it Anycolor bros, we made it onto the EN tally!
>inb4 Z

>> No.25765421

>>25762805
>they have systems in place to make sure livers don't try and leave
This sounds like a scary system but isn't it something like "you sign a contract to not leave for a couple of years, but you get the following benefit"?

>> No.25765423

>>25765343
Riku is good businessman

>> No.25765429

>>25765321
Does HoloEN not have members that literally cried because of numbers?

>> No.25765434
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25765434

Did some changes for the chat/CCV chart that I posted a few days ago. Changed to average CCV instead of peak CCV and I inverted the last column because "chat rate per viewer" is a lot easier to understand than "average ccv to chat rate ratio". So needless to be said, since it's inverted now a low number is 'bad' whereas a higher number is 'good' in terms of chatting activity. Here are the 10 highest viewed streams ranked by average viewers and the corresponding chatting stats. I also included the Error 1-16 watchalong since I see a lot of people say that Salome has low activity chat because she doesn't have membership so people can't spam her emotes. Well, the Hololive main channel has no membership either and it seems to do very well.

>> No.25765438

>>25765206
Arguably the most important number
Now let see if Riku try to maximize that shit at the detriment of everything else

>> No.25765465

>>25765252
I just want to say that putting all your eggs in one basket isn't a good idea

>> No.25765468

>>25765368
that would be a disaster, no one wants to invest in a company that throws money at multiple vaporwares

>> No.25765531

>>25765343
I'm afraid that someday he will get banned from YouTube.

>> No.25765547

>>25765434
Theoretically, without slow mode, Salome should've gotten bigger chat numbers since Miko or other Holos's viewers are nerfed by it.

>> No.25765554

>>25765421
In practice probably yeah, I assume they tout industry connections they have and whatnot.

>> No.25765556

>>25765468
I think you underestimate the craziness of investing world

>> No.25765596

>>25765343
>>GAS GAS GAS LMAO

>> No.25765604

>>25765468
No one cares as long as you keep printing money. Google starts a bunch of random garbage all the time and they just kill them a few years later if they fail.

>> No.25765610

I'm so fucking glad that the green whore didn't get 10k. Thank you Ame for overlapping that stupid bitch and giving her the same treatment she gave Bae. Unreal that she even got 9k on that garbage rpg bullshit

>> No.25765647

>>25757095
Someone post that pasta

>> No.25765705

>>25759270
>This is bitcoin
Nope . This is Bitconnect

>> No.25765718

>>25758671
OH NO NO JUN GANG!? NOT LIKE THIS

>> No.25765733

>>25765252
>Riku's approach is making a lot of money in the short term and cash out as soon as he can because he doesn't believe in long-term Vtubing
>Yagoo wants to be a saviourfag and actually build a steady company thinking about a future in which Vtubers are established and part of normie's tendencies
Which one is better?
There is no answer and it doesn't matter, both of them are rich, it reminds me to Twitterfags arguing about:
>le Elon Musk good
>le Elon Musk bad

>> No.25765785

>>25765733
Well there's basically two reasons to IPO, 1 of them is cashing out like that, 2 is to get a lot of investor money to expand the business.

So either Riku dumps it and peaces out or Niji is about to try to take over.

>> No.25765793

>>25765429
Yes and they were met with annoyment.
The greater Community just doesn't like when the talent talk about numbers.
All the comment are always the same she should be Grateful and not focus too much on growth and other stupid thing they tell themselves.

>> No.25765804

>>25765343
How come NijiEN gets such a disproportionate amount of Z bugs? Like, Vox gets them in nearly half his streams.

>> No.25765825

>>25765429
I'm pretty sure Kiara has repeatedly been a numberfag, especially in her early days. Instead of that being a buff that ended up being a debuff for her and she was the most reviled HoloEN on here until Calli and Council came along.

>> No.25765842

>overlaps another streamer for a short 2 hour guerilla she had a dead time slot for
what is Debuffson's major malfunction?

>> No.25765916

>>25765785
I'm convinced that it's the first one because the whole "ACCELERATE" strat is based on not giving a fuck about nobody

>> No.25765934

>>25765842
She always does a practice stream ebfore a collab when it's apex

>> No.25765946

>>25765842
Ame is completely fucking retarded. Like, dumber than bricks.

>> No.25765959

>>25765842
she is saving her branch mates to become mysta

>> No.25765984

>>25765733
Guess we'll know if Riku sells his stock and makes 300m+ USD or not.

>> No.25766057

>>25765984
anyone know the lock-out period for insiders?

>> No.25766067

>>25763937
moot tasukete

>> No.25766075

>>25765959
What the fuck did he mean by this

>> No.25766117

>>25765733
>because he doesn't believe in long-term Vtubing
>umm difficult to say

>> No.25766131

>>25766075
He is saying that fauna will have sex with ame

>> No.25766195

>>25762805
The slides directly state that their "system" is to own the IP so that the talents can't leave without giving up the IP.
Plus all the incentives like revenue sharing and the brand as a whole. But their first point on the slides was likely holding hostage IP rights. Which is true of all companies in this industry but pointing it out like that was pretty funny.

>> No.25766271

>>25756299
It still seems to be worth it to attain minimal eigo jozu in Hololive so you can maximize box factor, but that doesn't exist outside the holosphere

>> No.25766338

>>25766117
I hope he doesn't leave nijisanji soon.

>> No.25766351

>>25766195
That system doesn't really work if your talents get to big and you don't support them.

>> No.25766412

>>25765733
I mean, how long is "Long terms" really?
10 years? 20? 50?

>> No.25766431

>>25762480
Fauna is gonna Pomu's VOD anyway so unity wins.

>> No.25766448
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25766448

What exactly is stopping him from buying 51% of Anycolor?

>> No.25766482

>>25765804
didn't he get it more than once on some streams even?

>> No.25766521

>>25766482
That was Luca

>> No.25766553

>>25766448
Sony will beat him to it

>> No.25766622

>>25766448
He doesn't have that much money

>> No.25766671

>>25765916
Every time niji vt talks about them money . they seem to cry every time when talks about lot income share to company and employee.

>> No.25766747

>>25765825
The issue is that Kiara was being obnoxious about it. Keep caring and harping about numbers will turn people off even if you are a JP.
It's a matter of showing that you are after self-improvement even though you are being grateful enough as you are, and numbers are just part of it instead of having numbers and popularity being the main focus (or a matter of being able to convince your viewers that).

>> No.25766846

>>25766448
Same reason why Musk is trying to take his hand off the pump and dump scheme Twitter deal - he doesn't have enough money to do it comfortably

>> No.25766879

>>25766448

ANS : https://youtu.be/K8ISWLo27v0

Fact yagoo salary less than his employee.

>> No.25766886

>>25766448
he's too busy saving homos

>> No.25766956
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25766956

https://twitter.com/tsubasamizuguch/status/1534717923272847360
>wow, big market cap! I must watch a niji to find out more! I will watch this new Salome!
Salami wasn't to boost the IPO... The IPO was to boost Salami... What will happen when cashed up investorfags find this new oshi which they associate with financial success and buy her merch in droves.. Riku, I am in awe of your tactical brilliance...

>> No.25767055

>>25766412
idk, all this is just me theorizing, I don't actually know what are their intentions and I can only judge based on what I see, but all Yagoo's moves like keeping Holostars and even IDs back then, giving big sponsors to ALL the members, rotating all the members hosting programs in the main channel, spacing debuts and the collab ban so that members can build their fanbase without being overshadowed (they fucked it up with Gen5 and Myth debut being so close and I hope they won't do it again, but they probably didn't expect Myth to gain so much popularity in their early days), leaving the talents slack as much as they want, hiring people that usually nobody would hire just because he believed all the "I will save her" he read here and unironically even completely leaving zhang market destroying all relationship just to keep 2 members and make all the other members happy show that he isn't doing it just for the money. Ofc he isn't a charity and still wants to be successful and earn more money, but if all he wanted to do is just become even more rich, he would work in a very different way

>> No.25767119

>>25766956
I-I kneel, AnyKara...

>> No.25767219

>>25765733
Riku's is better in bussines perspective. Vtuber is really an unstable market that rely to heavily on a private platform (youtube). If youtube goes down, the whole industry went down with it

>> No.25767375

>>25767055
I mean we are talking about a guy who used his own pocket to saviorfag a bunch of homeless/menhera dude despite the strong opposition from the fanbase and the company (i assume). Dude just want to saviorfag and make money while at it

>> No.25767406

When will Nijisanji collapse?
This thread has been doomposting about them since forever

>> No.25767426

Since it's slow rn, look who just released a new song!
https://youtu.be/djsKV6IFDHo
>Tittle : Crash
Kek

>> No.25767436

>>25767219
youtube would literally never go down.

>> No.25767481

>>25767219
>youtube going down
rumao
>suggesting youtube is the only place for streaming
rumao rumao

>> No.25767517

>>25767426
she has absolutely no chill

>> No.25767521

>>25767055
Being a nice guy and not trying to gain more money at all cost doesn't mean having some sort of long term vision / plan, though
Heck, if you want to talk about "VTubers are established as part of normie's tendencies" (>>25765733), Salome has been doing better in that aspect than every other VTubers in history, Holo included.

>> No.25767526

>>25767055
>being this naive
lmao are you serious?
CEO of a millions dollars company isn't in it just for the money

>> No.25767633

>>25767375
Yagoo wants an IDOL company. I believe an idol saved him before so he wants to save us by giving us idols.

>> No.25767657

>>25767219
>If youtube goes down
Anon, as much as people /here/ seeth on whatever Susan does/does not do, for YT to go down would take a fucking ton of bad luck/management and/or outside forces

>> No.25767779

>>25766448

Hololive

>Money
CEO or Exclusive < Holomem

They have profit from marketing goods , Most of the revenue from goods will go to holomem.

Fact for Holo business

if holomem want to make a merch, the agency would find market and promoting them merch. and ofc most of the merch cost product isp from holomem pocket. and the most profit would go to them.

>hololive only has 100 employees

>> No.25767823

>>25767219
Well, if we are talking about just making money, it is indeed, in fact accelerating as much as you can is the best you can do, you pay 5k or so for a model+rigging, let the chuuba use it, forget about that talent forever and collect the cash he'll be earning.
However, maybe as long as the company is successful and he keeps earning money, Yagoo doesn't care about becoming billionaire but building the place he wants to see.
It's like those high executives in Wall Street who make hundreds of millions a year, dedicate their whole life to it and live stressed 24/7 without even enjoy all their money they earn when they could pull out any moment and enjoy their live in a tropical island. Why are they still at it? Because they fucking love it and want to keep the legacy and relevance they have built
>>25767521
With normie I was refering to appearing in daily life, television and those things. XQC and Ibai have the biggest numbers and they appeal to normie Internet audience but not outside the Internet
>>25767526
Anon, you don't start an "Idol vtubing company" back in 2017 and act they way he has if you are just in it for the money, I know he isn't giving away money to all the people he meets on the street, but his plans seems to make money meanwhile he builds his dream company and not the other way

>> No.25767833

>>25767779
and yet Irys still hasn't gotten a second outfit and her 3D is no where in sight

>> No.25767879

When both companis become Public Trade Stock will we be like Yahoo finance tracking their shares and using them as the ultimate horse race?

>> No.25767878
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25767878

>Anycolor stock already going down

>> No.25767931

>>25767878
> the only recline that actually matters

>> No.25767941

>>25767833

Senpai system

JP-EN-ID

>> No.25767965

>>25767823
>It's like those high executives in Wall Street who make hundreds of millions a year, dedicate their whole life to it and live stressed 24/7 without even enjoy all their money they earn when they could pull out any moment and enjoy their live in a tropical island
because they want to make more money you stupid shit
stop liking millionaires asses

>> No.25767972
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25767972

Literally what the fuck is this

>> No.25768001

>>25767833

She is solo debut

>> No.25768007

>>25767972
NijiEN female gold!

>> No.25768030

>>25767941
what does that have anything to with a second outfit?
also
>racism in a le family

>> No.25768098

>>25767972
la creatividad

>> No.25768105

>>25767779

It's so warm , yagoo's not a businessman, he's more like father.

>> No.25768112

>>25768098
I'm not talking about the content I'm talking about the fucking graph

>> No.25768141

>>25767965
I was having a nice conversation with some anons but someone like you had to come to ruin it
If you had actually read any of the messages I've posted you would have realised that I have been saying literally the opposite the whole time, but I guess that it's too much for a tourist like you. Come back in around 12h to spam during JP prime time things like: "HOLOBRONIES STATUS?, IPO SCAM, NIJIBOTS, HOLOCOPE"

>> No.25768151

>>25768105
I can't tell if this is serious or just shitposting

>> No.25768171

>>25768112
Stream was choppy on that recline

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>>25768112
Uki raid it looks like.

>> No.25768226

>>25767833
Well, not to defend Cover - I'd love to see IRyS new outfit soon (3D is...uh, to be seen, since it looks like not even she knows if one is being worked on right now yet) - but technically she could have gotten a new outfit if not for whatever reason it was that cancelled it.
>>25767779
>if holomem want to make a merch, the agency would find market and promoting them merch. and ofc most of the merch cost product isp from holomem pocket. and the most profit would go to them.
This is only true for merchs that Holos thought of themselves (basically personal projects in form of merchs) - i.e: Lamy's wine. Some other kinds of merchs - i.e Birthday merchs or nendos - are dealt with normally with Cover taking care of most of the funding (and, understandably, take a bigger cut from profits)

>> No.25768284

>>25768141
I was literally one of the people you were replying to. You have never worked for a company in your life, especially a Japanese company
It's fine, you can live in your delusion

>> No.25768302

>>25767972
what she doin?

>> No.25768315

>>25768112
Raid + stream pretty much died

>> No.25768324

>>25767833
uhh she got a special cardboard. stop being greedy

>> No.25768380

>>25768302
Roleplay 5 person comedy collab

>> No.25768418

>>25768380
it's a collab? oh.....

>> No.25768421

Salome BTFO! THE NEW QUEEN IS IN TOWN! https://youtu.be/xYGNqYeRP2I

>> No.25768445

>>25768226
Irys' second outfit got canned because her demands were being ignored IIRC

>> No.25768470

>>25766956
>IPO scam?
IPO scam

>> No.25768522

I hope Shu also raids Millie so she can beat that retarded green whore.

>> No.25768549

>>25768030

> nijisanji has 3d model every one if can 100k sub

>> No.25768620

Confirmed iroha gold tonight?

>> No.25768655

>>25768226

Nijinig

https://youtu.be/KwYsDj3SASw

>> No.25768696

>>25768620
is it matter? she will slip to salome everyone does it

>> No.25768720

>>25768549
Don't care about Nijishit they're the worst company in the world, ok now?
But after hearing Irys saying this about her 3D
>I'm sure it will happen one day. I at least hope that it will happen one day. That it's not gonna be something that will never happen I'm assuming hopefully
The dick sucking ITT is unbearable to me. Sometimes I wonder if this is a cult

>> No.25768842
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25768842

>>25768470
>IPO scam
Yep I can confirm, just ran the numbers:
>>>/biz/49471541
TLDR I calculated the approximate price per share for previous investment rounds. The VCs got in for approx 175 Yen per share.
They now could sell for 5000Yen per share AHAHAHA CAPITALISM HOOOOOOOOOOOO
> the company’s major shareholders include LC Fund (a fund of China’s Legend Capital, 10.29%)
ZHANGS' COLLECTIVE FACE, MAKING 28 TIMES PROFIT AHAHAHAHAHAHA OH NO NO NO NOOOOO

>> No.25768848

>>25768549
>nijisanji has 3d model every one if can 100k sub
> 50 member waiting for them model

>> No.25768876

On an unrelated note, Ame was supposed to collab with Zeta but it seems Zeta just full on ghosted Ame to the point where Ame thought she got the date wrong

>> No.25768889

>>25767878
Going down, or normalizing?

>> No.25768899

>>25768720
>sometimes I wonder if this is a cult
Did you try reading this thread.

>> No.25768928

>>25768848
so basically a permanent backlog and since they don't get them by seniority you can have members that have been there for years and is still missing 3d? that's nice

>> No.25768979

>>25767878
Welp it was fun while it lasted bros.
Who will be first out now that it is crashing down?

>> No.25768991

>>25768445
Nobody knows shit about what's going on with IRyS and her outfit/3D, which is a bad thing because if their was anything they felt was acceptable to say then corporate probably would have at least made a twitter statement about it or let IRyS make an announcement

Furthermore, from what little we've been told, even IRyS doesn't know what the hell is wrong exactly and management were miscommunicating with her on top of all the previous bad signs.

Everything points to a management conflict where the bureaucracy can't tell their heads from their asses, which causes delays that lead to further delays as the causes for all the problems are dealt with behind the scenes. If I were to speculate, I'd say that she told what she wanted to her personal manager, he was supposed to communicate it to someone else to have those demands checked through and forgot, and then what Redjuice was asked to make was completely different from what was intended because he heard something different from what IRyS asked for.

This isn't even a rrat, it's just Occam's Razor. In every operation where middle management exists this shit happens, so that's probably what's happening here.

>> No.25768994

>>25768876
Zeta schedule is 10.00 on her time, Ame stream 2 hours earlier...
seem just time zone miscommunication

>> No.25769044

>>25768655
Oopss good bait

>> No.25769046

>>25768994
No, that guerilla she did earlier was a practice stream. She always does it before an apex collab. So it was supposed to still happen after Ame ended and it just hasn't because Zeta is MIA

>> No.25769061

>>25767833
>her model is so cursed than they have to redesign it
>his papa is a lazy bitch who cares more about desuwa than her
>side branch preasu undeltando
>all previous options
choose your poison

>> No.25769065

>>25768655
Yes, that's Lamy's wine project - the "personal project" part I was talking about. Not sure if you are trying to disagree with what I said by calling me a "nijinig", but that clip doesn't go against what I said.

>> No.25769070

>>25768991
the real reason is that the original omega left the company and now it's all fucked for her

>> No.25769100

>>25768991
When other members talk about their outfit it seems like they're able to communicate directly with their artist but for some reason she can't. I guess her image has to be more curated according to the will of the Project: HOPE management

>> No.25769101

>>25768842
nothing against salami but if this is whole thing is a straight up chinese pump and dump I'm going to laugh my ass off

>> No.25769103

>>25768994
then this guy >>25768876 just being retard

>> No.25769126

>>25766956
Salome wasnt the IPO Scam...the IPO was a Scam for Salome...

>> No.25769173

>>25769103
read >>25769046
Retard. She literally made a member post saying she's wondering if she got the date wrong

>> No.25769212

>>25769061
>his papa is a lazy bitch who cares more about desuwa than her
Redjuice drew a New Year outfit for her in one of his streams in just two hours to show that it wouldn't take him much time before. Thus, I'm pretty sure whatever the issue(s) was, it wasn't a matter of laziness at the very least.

>> No.25769229

>>25768899
yeah I thought 4chan users are better but maybe most fags here were from reddit
actually maybe not since reddit nowadays really hates rich people

>> No.25769233

>>25768421
RIKU WATCH OUT
...
Seriously tho, this is probably the most realistic application of VTuber techs outside of Vtuber
Gacha games already did this (FGO and all the Yostar games comes to mind). Anime studio surely have the capacity to do so as well

>> No.25769236

>>25769070
That too. If a middle manager anywhere between her and Redjuice quit(or was fired) before or during the process of handling her outfit/3D it would probably lead to this disaster. Project HOPE is probably a fucking bureaucratic nightmare right now, there's no way corporate isn't breathing down their necks over why the fuck they're not doing anything.

>> No.25769364

>>25769046
Zeta's last tweet is this
https://twitter.com/vestiazeta/status/1534553445440831490

So I think she used her membership money to purchase a ton of condoms and got a bit too into it (or she just got totally wasted)

>> No.25769367

>>25769101
I have no idea about stock market, what if the stock price goes down to being literally worthless,, would it make them go bankrupt and have to nuke all the chuubas or this was made with "extra money" and it would just be a loss for the investors and the company would go back to the way it was before going IPO?

>> No.25769421

>>25769212
do you have any link?

>> No.25769437

>>25769367
this is all extra money

>> No.25769477

>>25769364
Well she's just late
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISoaBOgOW2A

>> No.25769496

>>25768876
Zeta woke up.
2 min frame I guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaMlYvg6DRA

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>>25769212
>>25769421
He streamed the process on stream but he makes them unlisted after he's done. Only available on his fanbox. It's a bit generic but with some IRyS specific touches it wouldn't have looked bad

>> No.25769524

>>25769367
overpriced stocks are just overpriced stocks, just like Tesla, it's worst for the investors than the company

>> No.25769533

>>25769421
Gimme 30' or so, then. I will need to dig through the archive since I'm pretty sure /hirys/ posted about it several times before

>> No.25769594

>>25769496
>Fucking NOON
>Can't wake up in time

>> No.25769667

>>25769100
> it seems like they're able to communicate directly with their artist but for some reason she can't
Why seeking narrative where there might not be one. redjuice just don't obviously doesn't give a fuck.

>> No.25769700

>>25769508
such an ugly monster

>> No.25769713

>>25769236
I imagine that the way Hololive's management structure works is like

Upper Management
Various technical staff, Branch managers
EN talent and Management, ID Talent and Management, JP Talent and Management

Where do you think Project HOPE is in here? It's either below or stuck between JP and EN management. There might very well be actual confusion who is even in charge of IRyS right now, especially if the manager in charge of her quit or got fired. It's probable that IRyS management is JP speakers only and they have to go through EN management and JP Branch management to get anything done, which seems like enough of a shitshow for this situation to have occured

>> No.25769720

>>25769061
Either way this is absolutely horrible, I'm surprised no one ok /vt/ is shitting on Cover over this. /hlg/ used to be really critical of the company

>> No.25769866

>>25769713
The requirements for the homoEN manager is business level English and native level Japanese.
That's all you need to know about them

>> No.25770018

>>25769594
I think ID is an hour earlier than Japan.

>> No.25770019

>>25769421
Not Redjuice's stream, but IRyS also said that it was "a lot of checks, a lot of circumstances", so it lends some creditability to the speculations about possible management issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auxs7PgQeaA

>> No.25770055

>>25769713
Just fucking delete Project HOPE and merge Irys into a normal generation

>> No.25770058

>>25769061
#save_IRYS

>> No.25770064

>>25769508
>some irys features are missing
I am pretty sure I watched this first in some FGO arts before
you will need better proofs

>> No.25770092

>>25770055
Merge IRyS to JP0

>> No.25770278

Cover should really make an announcement about irys' outfit being in progress to calm people down just like what they did with pekora. The fact that they didn't makes me wonder if it is artist and contract problems.

>> No.25770311
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>>25770064
It's not an IRyS kimono, it's something he did on January 10 in an 8 hour stream. The other anon was speculating that he did this so people wouldn't think he was the one holding the outfit back

>> No.25770405

>>25769720
Probably because nobody cares about the speculations of some retards in these threads.

>> No.25770483

>>25769065

>exam my birthday goods
0:24 0:24 0:24

>> No.25770567

>>25769065
>personal project
>You didn't even watch the clip.

>> No.25770649

https://twitter.com/yamanta_15/status/1534514871525552128

KSon 3D on the 26th

>> No.25770886
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25770886

Who would win?
>A multi person collab bolstered by a redirect and a handful of fanbases gathering together to support the self proclaimed number 1 vtuber agency in the world
Or
>One green Lamy
The results may shock you!

>> No.25770909

>>25770019
Here's my rrat
>IRyS says she wants the outfit to be a different color palate from her original outfit, and actually gives details on her preferences(details aren't relevant here, just assume she had suggestions)
>She tells this to her manager, who communicates with Project HOPE management to confirm that these are alright, but somewhere along the way the suggestions got thrown out or ignored, or the manager forgets to do this part entirely
>Project HOPE either doesn't talk to EN and JP management, or does and this creates another layer of obfuscation which makes the situation even harder to resolve. Either way, there was either no communication or miscommunication at this level.
>Either Project HOPE takes this to Redjuice or another intermediary from another department does, and they need to figure out his contract with them. Eventually, potentially not even from her own managers, IRyS learns that her suggestions were completely retracted and no one told her before they went ahead on their own, and this causes problems with Redjuice because the contract is already signed
>Que everyone in three branches running around trying to figure out who to blame for this mess, possibly to fire them if it's figured out that anyone is disproportionately responsible, Omega either quits or is canned due to this, or some other fuck up, and no one even knows what do do anymore besides maybe just deleting project hope and transferring IRyS to the JP Branch.

>> No.25770921

>>25770483
>>25770567
I stand corrected...

>> No.25771098

>>25770649
she was always great at moving around in 3d

>> No.25771131

>>25770483

Finally
>Hololive
Member got 90% Cover got 10%
>Nijisanji
Member got 10% Any got 90%

End ...

>> No.25771176

>>25770909
it's all on Omegay, i fucking hate that tranny so much.

>> No.25771204

>>25770092
This. It’s where all the one-offs go and it has the most singer support with Sora, Azki, and Suisei. Only Mori has equal or better and her future is now in a record deal

>> No.25771274

>>25770886
>1 hour stream vs 3 hour stream
Fuck off. Millie had less time for people to passively join and her stream was much more creative than game number 40

>> No.25771376

>>25771274
>millie
>creative
one of the worst memes on this board

>> No.25771437

Kronii about to hit 10k overlapping with the Ame collab. I swear she’s starting to become like a second Korone. If she just swaps kusoges with retro games she’s right there

>> No.25771462

>>25771376
Watch the stream you fucking retard

>> No.25771529
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>>25771176
Rrat
>what if the trannie discord raid was omega seething all along cause he got fired from cover

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>>25771462
watching nijiCN

>> No.25771579

>>25771529
anyone checked on l*serbait lately?

>> No.25771619

>>25769367
If the stock went down to penny stock level unless they’ve used stock as collateral they should be fine but rhe biggest impact would be both investors being less willing ro give money and the board clearing out the executives

>> No.25771636

>>25771098
Wasnt the Shakira shaking ass partially integrated in the Coco model? I hope this one has something similar

>> No.25771651

>>25771437
more like rage games. People want to see her confident persona get bent.

>> No.25771669

Kronii goldddd 10k

>> No.25771706

>>25770886
These kinds of posts have been happening since NijiEN started. And NijiEN collabs used to get 2k viewers. Then 4k. Then 6k. And now they only get 9k. Soon they will only get 12k etc. You only have a few more months you can post this.
Tic tic tic

>> No.25771726
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25771726

>>25771462
you think i'd hand out a view for free just like that?

>> No.25771752

>>25771706
>needing men to get views

>> No.25771802

>>25771669
sorry anon but now with the international tally it's kobo gold every time gura isn't streaming

>> No.25771835

>>25771669
Damnn I'm tired losing again. I am bored , please comeback vox

>> No.25771900

Mysta is going to win with his tier list anyway

>> No.25771937

>>25771752
If that's all it takes, maybe it would be good for HoloEN to get some men too, so that we can really see their numbers skyrocket to the moon

>> No.25771955

>>25771619
Before that happens, investors has the power to force the company to make sell out decisions, right? Just to increase profits.

>> No.25771980

>>25771706
nijiEN got 9k on a 5 person collab since april my dude. It's actually underperforming a bit. wtf you talking about.

>> No.25771998

>>25771437
Why does it seem like HoloEN constantly sets themselves up to overlap for not real reason? I thought it was normal for people to move their streams so they didn't overlap?

>> No.25772037

>>25771998
only mumei is considerate of when others stream. guess they don't talk much behind the scenes

>> No.25772036

>>25771900
shu is still big when he streams on chink hours yeah. Probably 15k.

>> No.25772042

>>25771998
>I thought it was normal for people to move their streams so they didn't overlap?
No? Only for special events.

>> No.25772047

>>25771980
He's shitposting. Are you really falling for NijiEN baits again?

>> No.25772096

>>25771998
Look at the numbers you pull when you go to the Kiara timeslot. Even with overlap most of EN still gets better views at NA primerime than other hours and you have to fuck your sleep schedule

>> No.25772101

>>25771998
maybe they don't communicate much, or they just want a solid fanbase on their own.

>> No.25772218

>>25772036
that's make sense

>> No.25772258

>>25772096
Fauna has streamed at 4pm est and still get like 8k though

>> No.25772360

>>25771669
Kiara was at 15.6k earlier anon

>> No.25772423

>>25772360
was it watchable?

>> No.25772531

>>25772423
Shit games, Mori was clearly tired, and they didn't really talk much about anything. The times they did were nice but they were too few and far in between

>> No.25772608

>>25758263
technically true but it's mostly a LSF thing

>> No.25772764

>>25771131
i dont think we know how this works for merchandise. we know for YT rates and Voice pack rates, but merchandise numbers never have been shared for Nijisanji

>> No.25772799

Is there a website that tracks historical golds somewhere?

>> No.25773204

>>25766448
really, nobody is going to mention that Anycolor only has about 5% of thier stock available to the public?

>> No.25773302

>>25765825
>>25766747
There's that, but she's a numberfag of the "I wish I had bigger numbers" and then she just plays 12 straight streams of fire emblem where she refuses to engage with the mechanics and just facerolls through everything and then wonders why nobody wants to watch her

>> No.25773321

https://www.businessinsider.jp/post-255195
>なお上場時、大株主に定められているロックアップ期間は180日間。
So no major shareholder is allowed to sell for half a year after this listing? What about the IPO scam and everyone immediately cashing out...

>> No.25773344

>If roboco and mel are in nijisanji, Are they in the top 20? or not

>them median is 3-4k ccv

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