Why do you continue to watch corporate cancer?

[Anonymous No.]

I just can’t fathom continuing to put up with all the bullshit that both Hololard and Niggersanji have allowed to fester in the last couple of years. You have CoverCorp, which hires absolutely cancerous individuals like shit chicken, throws away a hardworking trailblazer in Rushia like she means nothing to them, and treats all their male talent like second-class citizens who never get any promotions or opportunities at all. Then you have AnyColor, who hires VShoujo-tier Twitch retards (one of them whose entire career is endorsing communism, great fucking hire there Niggersanji) that openly espouse support for literal faggotry and attack their own fans while engaging in childish high school drama, all of this taking place in only a single goddamn week.

I just don’t get it. How is continuing to give most of your support to either of these horrible, retarded companies worth it more than any of the thousands of hardworking indies out there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit and just entertain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
I like Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
if it weren't for IRyS, Mumei, Amelia, Kiara, Fauna, Ina, Gura, Kronii, Suisei, Haachama, Towa, Marine, Korone, Chloe, Azki, Fubuki, Matsuri, Nene, Polka, Laplus, Koyori, Roberu, Izuru and Astel, I would have become an indie chad

[Anonymous No.]

>one of them whose entire career is endorsing communism
Fucking based, the scene is long overdue for proper radical chuba or two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602275
You had me in the first half ngl

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>absolutely cancerous individuals like shit chicken
How can you even live with taste this atrocious?
>hardworking trailblazer Rushia
I shouldn't have asked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>I just can’t fathom continuing to put up with all the bullshit that both Hololard and Niggersanji have allowed to fester in the last couple of years. You have CoverCorp, which hires absolutely cancerous individuals like shit chicken, throws away a hardworking trailblazer in Rushia like she means nothing to them, and treats all their male talent like second-class citizens who never get any promotions or opportunities at all. Then you have AnyColor, who hires VShoujo-tier Twitch retards (one of them whose entire career is endorsing communism, great fucking hire there Niggersanji) that openly espouse support for literal faggotry and attack their own fans while engaging in childish high school drama, all of this taking place in only a single goddamn week.
>I just don’t get it. How is continuing to give most of your support to either of these horrible, retarded companies worth it more than any of the thousands of hardworking indies out there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit and just entertain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602303
anon, i just listed my oshis right there
also forgot Bae

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
Believe me, i have a hololive oshi but i want nothing more than to watch her in indie form.
I hate corporate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>thousands of hardworking indies out there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit and just entertain

[Anonymous No.]

>find chuuba i like
>inde or corpo doesnt matter
>happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602513
Spotted the sapling. I'm happy for (You). Also, corpo shouldn't matter to anyone unless they think Cover/Anykara/...VOMS? are the reason their oshi does questionable things like exist in the same reality as the opposite gender.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>throws away a hardworking trailblazer in Rushia
Lmao. How exactly is keeping a famous male contact in her work discord a trailblazer attitude?
Rushia got fired because she was retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
The strength of Corpo is that as long as you know the name of the corpo, you can find a chuuba with almost no effort. You don't have to go through the effort of searching for your favorite chuuba from more than tens of thousands of indies.
People basically don't like to put effort into things.

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>>25602139
So you don't like corpos or twitch shit - who do you watch? Give actual examples.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
Okay 2view

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>hiring shit chicken
what does she do that affects you enough to care? aren't you watching indies instead?
>throws away rushia
it seemed odd to me too, but consider what we know about the situation, which is to say a whole lot of rumors and not much concrete evidence; we don't actually have a full enough picture to conclude on why she was terminated.
>treats all the males like second class citizens
that's true, there's a definite bias here.
>anycolor hires vshoujo-tier talents
what's wrong with vshoujo? again, what have they done that upsets you this much?
>endorsing communism
who?
>support for literal faggotry
indie talents are way more likely to indulge in LGBT issues rather than tight-lipped corpos who aren't even allowed to divulge issues related to their termination.
>attacks their own fans
yes, I've seen that finana tweet too. it's dumb, and she's dumb for saying it, but it's not a corpo exclusive thing. v-tweeter is a derogatory term for a reason.
>how is supporting corpos more worth it than indies
indies have nothing to do with the issues you mentioned at all, you act as though enjoying this medium is a binary system of you either like corpo and hate indie, or love indie and hate corpo. you're mistaking apathy for malice here. most people don't support indies not because they're out to get them, but because they simply don't care.

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>>25603414
>we don't actually have a full enough picture to conclude on why she was terminated.
She broke NDA on company communications, you can't get a clearer picture than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25603414
>rushia
>dont know why she was terminated
she was fired for breaking contract. how hard is this to understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
Fine then I'll support the indies who spout overly political opinions and farm outrage nonstop on twitter instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25603414
>whats wrong with vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
Okay give me some indies so I can check them out. I won't do anything horrible to them I promise

[Anonymous No.]

>>25603546
>>25603571
I went at that topic from the wrong angle. We know why she was terminated, but we don't know the severity of the breach other than rumors and leaked screenshots that don't exactly paint the full picture. My gut feeling is telling me that it was bad enough they had to do it but not enough that they're not secretly feeling like shit about losing their biggest cash cow. But again, who other than cover knows.
>>25603722
Yeah, really, what's wrong with them? They pander to their audience with liberal use of sexual overtones, they say and do shit to appeal to horny teenagers. That's their target demographic. What's wrong with that? Watch someone else if you're not into their content. I'm certainly not into it, but theyre completely harmless.

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>>25604051
Fucking cope. Of course the Rushia fan is seething at the other girls being sexual.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>25604051
>but we don't know
We do, you don't. The guy she leaked the emails to in order to try and clear her name did a full stream about them and didn't bother to censor anything. Rushia did something unbelievably stupid and in violation of a contract she signed, doxxing a bunch of Cover employees in the process. That is why she was fired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>Then you have AnyColor, who hires VShoujo-tier Twitch retards
Anon... They hire vshojo tier retards, because that's what 99% of EN indie vtubers are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
So you watch xQc?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25603167
>>25603893
I ain’t involving my 3view oshis in this. I just wanted to make a point that they are perfect and corpos are pure AIDS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604192
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604192
Unironically this, Hololive fans are the same as Applefags, they'll support and buy anything that has the Hololive brand on it and think that anything that isn't Holollive is garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604308
Your oshi will never get more popular with fans like you. Why do you hate her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604335
Who do you watch then? I'd love to see the light

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
Towa Cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604388
Pomu

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604438
>Corpo A bad
>Corpo B good
kek

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>>25604147
first of all, not a rushia fan, not sure why you'd assume that when I wasn't defending her at all. secondly, i'm not even seething at the other girls being sexual, i'm literally suggesting that there's nothing wrong with what they do because they have their own audience that they appeal to and that's totally fine, even if it's not to my taste. what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>25604236
yes, i've seen the stream, and yes, it was extremely dumb of her, and i'm not trying to defend her at all, or even trying to be ignorant of the facts. what I am saying is that there is more to this story that we don't know, and whatever is hidden was either the final straw, or had to be big enough of a deal on its own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604438
>the one that tried to get into Hololive and has the most hololive fans that over lap
double kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604481
I didn't say Hololive was bad I said Hololive fans were bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604438
>pomukeks
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604497
I don't know bro, NDA breach is a pretty clear cut reason for termination. There definitely wasn't anything else going on behind the scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604530
You're no different faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604603
If I was the same as your average Hololive fan I would be insisting that only Nijisanji was good and nothing else is worth watching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604497
anon people just dont like vshojo. end of period. i apperciate you trying to keep a level headed discussion but maybe for another thread

and about the rushia thing. yeah it seems pretty standard firing practices. im sure they didnt want to cut one of their biggest supperchat girls but thats the way it goes.

[Anonymous No.]

Indies are just hololive members who joined hololive lol, past streaming experience is necessary to join hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604236
>doxxing employees
That part is a rrat though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>It's a Rushia tard
that explains everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>25605045
No, you just have a specific idea of what doxxing is. She did it in the more conventional sense in that she exposed the private communications, which count as personal information, of someone to a third party. It wasn't just her own emails she leaked, but the employees she was emailing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25605143
You should be more clear about that in the future then. Taken out of context, your post looks like it feeds into the general "doxx irl/address info of talents" rrat that's still running around this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25605300
I can't help that rratniggers are retarded, but I get you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
soon as u mentioned rushia I stopped taking u srsly khekh

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>Rushiamaggot
Stopped reading right there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
I'll never watch your streams. Seethe, cope, and dilate forever, 2view trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
Didn't read. Stop begging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>posts mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
Are you referring to Nina? I can't imagine she could be that blunt about it (as Nina, at least)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>Orange woman bad
>Green woman good
Opinion disregarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602398
It's hard to reveal the truth, anon, but I'll do it anyway: your oshis suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
I watched Watame's birthday live and got gifted a membership after having mostly ignored her with the exception of her live concert.
What do I do with this?
I had reached a conclusion 1 year ago after Coco retired that I couldn't continue like this and didn't want to support the suits at Hololive who hurt me so greatly.
I grew impatient at Watame's subconscious sadness as I wanted her to heal the same way I did and she was holding me back from self improvement.

But now I don't know. It's like watching the same scenery with a completely different mindset and point of view.
I can't spend hours each days to watch her, but it seems she managed to get happier.
Did she do some therapy?
I am considering watching her occasionally once in a while, and the free membership gave me the itch to use the emotes again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25611291
Anon, this post seems a bit too serious for this retarded bait thread.
Maybe you could ask around in her general to see how she's doing these day and maybe check her out again? I don't know, I'm not a Watamate so I can't really say anything more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25611291
While Watame still misses Coco, she's been happy for a while. She never needed therapy. The only time that was particularly difficult for her was after her debut and around the time she found out Coco was going to leave. Despite being a sentimental crybaby she's pretty tough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25603893
The hololive fanbase, everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25611474
I will do that.
I wanted to help her and share my discovery with her once, but if she found the same answer on her own that's a lot better and would make me happy.

>>25611827
That was the moment I lost it.
Watame was constantly sad and I didn't understand the reason why which made it a lot worse.
It was like discovering a family member hid something important for a month.
That hurt more than the announcement, but after Coco left it hurt too much to watch anything related with Hololive.

The issue which would need therapy is her mindset inherited from her childhood of being an unwanted child.
The memory of her father rejecting her and saying he didn't want her as a child was sabotaging her life, mindset and attempts at happiness.
Did she cure that?

I found the way to cure the negative effect of bad memories, and wanted her to heal by using it, but learned that it's impossible to force people to change even if it is to help them.
If she did it on her own then it would make me happy.
But if she didn't I may make an attempt to send her a letter with this method to give her a choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25612964
Why do people take this hobby so seriously?

[Anonymous No.]

Someone post the streamable of that chuuba talking about her boyfriend on stream by accident onegai

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>thousands of hardworking indies out there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit and just entertain
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHNAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>25615287
Is because vtubers are their whole life, these people change oshi as often as they do with underwear.

[Anonymous No.]

>hardworking
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>25608683
It’s not like she even wants to be in Hololive really. She sees it as more of just a stepping stone for her music career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
Indies are even shittier

[Anonymous No.]

because they employ my oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25615287
I spent 1 year watching her during the Corona times and she gave me something to look forward to.
I liked her Watame no Uta and voice training videos she put out each morning, but she also had a positive mindset despite her circumstances and had a warm personality.
Of course I would care.
How many friends do you have you can say you spent 3+ hours being with them for 1 year after becoming an adult?

It was during a time when I was recovering from the BTC market crash and was trying to recover my emotions.
Watame's stronger emotions allowed me to remember what it meant to be a human being and to recover my emotions.

As with every vtuber their viewers share a similar mindset. In this case it would be not receiving unconditional love from their parents.
If you know a friend has the same issue as you and you find a way to cure it wouldn't you want to share it?

The problem in this case is that the relation is extremely one sided making it close to impossible to send real messages to the other side.
The only solution would be to send her a letter, but then I had some personal life issues to take care of and got a bit delayed.

We may have gone different ways, but I still want to help her if I can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25619227
>It was during a time when I was recovering from the BTC market crash and was trying to recover my emotions.
You can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25615578
Not exactly.
Everyone has their preferences and will go towards more compatible people after enough time.
The difference is that Hololive recruits people they can abuse and control which make less favorable people to follow.
The viewers either accept their reality as fixed because of their past and don't change and can keep watching the same vtuber, find someone who is closer to their preferences, or go through a personal development to better themselves which changes their mindset and who they are attracted to.

Everything has a time limit in this world, but that's what makes it precious and special.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't give a shit about xorporations or /vt/ sisters insane opinions. I watch hololive, nijisanji, vshojo, small corporations, and indies because vtubers make me happy. You can belive all scitzo rrats you want but I personally find that most of you fags don't even watch vtubers, so opinions are easily discarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>25619334
Ironically I experienced the same thing again and it made me happy this time because I learned that it couldn't affect me anymore and my link to my inner child and emotions is now impossible to break.

Imagine the pain of losing all your money instantly in a few seconds because of your greed making you lose the ability to reason properly.
It's like having a knife in your heart and ego constantly and living through extreme pain.

The result of enduring that pain was that I lost my emotions in order to not feel the pain anymore, but by doing so also lost my positive emotions.
There can be no happiness without sadness. Its all the same thing. You can't have the good without the bad.

The answer to pain is to always learn from your mistakes.
This implies to bad past memories too.
You can't forget them because you need to learn an important lesson from them.
Only after learning that lesson will the bad memory disappear and will the mindset become a lot healthier.

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>>25612964
Is this a shitpost? She's not suffering, anon. She's very happy doing what she's doing and moved past the stuff with her father a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
> throws away a hardworking trailblazer in Rushia like she means nothing to them
nice take cuckbeat thank you for thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>25619802
No it's honest.
If she healed then it's good, I just wanted to be sure she was fine.
She looked happier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25620234
Well she wrote the lyrics for this, so it should give you some insight into how she's doing now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozH28qYrMy4
She's more confident and moving forward with the things she wants to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25604335
>that isn't Holollive is garbage
Wish that was antything that could prove otherwise...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
>one of them whose entire career is endorsing communism, great fucking hire there Niggersanji
Nina has never let any leftist politics leak on any of her streams. You may know this if you knew fuck all about anything besides Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25621246
Thanks.
She seems to be doing well if she can dream of a new future.
I regret not having been there to witness the moment she changed, but her finding the answer is what's important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25602139
Holofag is right. Dis is why I watch superior VOMs, no drama no twitchthot bullshit faking nothing but superior japanese quality.