Was Hololive right in isolating themselves?

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I think it's no secret that Holomems tend to only collab with other Holomems, and are more or less quarantined from every other Vtuber company. Nijifags often portray this as a negative, saying that Hololive lacks "variety" and "chemistry".

But ever since NijiENs started mingling with Vshojos and Twitch indies, they've acted a lot more like Twitch streamers, and have gained significantly more drama as a result.

Meanwhile, you go to a Hololive stream, and it's like night and day. They swear way less, they don't talk about dicks and cum all the time, and they don't get into drama nearly as often because they're raised in a culture that discourages drama.

TL;DR: More out-of-company collabs does not mean more better

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datamining thread
do not reply

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Guinea pig anon. We need your help.

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WARNING, DATAMINING THREAD FROM BRITISH SCUM

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>>25385368
>They swear way less, they don't talk about dicks and cum all the time, and they don't get into drama nearly as often because they're raised in a culture that discourages drama.

and they have become so damn boring and fake because of it
i dont watch hol-en anymore, xcept for Bae they have become a sleeping pill

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I don’t give a single fuck about whatever you typed here but dang Enna is super cute.

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>>25385368

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>>25385368
>But ever since NijiENs started mingling with Vshojos and Twitch indies
False, it started when Ethyria rolled in and worsened with Luxiem.

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>>25385368
I almost unsubbed from every single Prism Project chuuba just because of Luto's shitpost tweet about PSRs, so yes they're right to isolate themselves.

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>>25386383
>shitpost
so she's not serious? it was a joke?

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>>25386727
did you see the number of emojis? and you still took it seriously?

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>>25386383
>>25386727
Yes, Luto was literally messing around. I swear /vt/ can’t comprehend a woman having a sense of humor and some dignity.

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>>25385368
>Nijifags often portray this as a negative, saying that Hololive lacks "variety" and "chemistry"
They're fucking wrong. It's not just NijiEN, NijiJP is also a shit show with 95% of them being Apexfags and only play with streamers and shit. This isn't vtuber, it's just normalfags putting on cartoon mask to play with other normalfags while acting like normalfags despite the cartoon mask. It's disgusting. Meanwhile Holo is just a group of girls being idol, like it or not, they're more vtuber than anyone else and that's an undeniable fact.

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>>25385368
>Was Hololive right in isolating themselves?
Obviously. The last thing I'd want is for Hololive to become the same shit as all the western trash out there, so there being a wall between them is good

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Yes, after the discord leak I don’t trust any nijis beyond Pomu to try to trick one of the Hololive girls into a major yab should they collab. Also EN could’ve become some eceleb dating series like vshojo if they had kept branching out to tt and their ilk

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>>25387051
well she did it while every other vtuber outside Hololive was unironically tweeting the same shit, but yo why don’t luto and non interact more? Prism has less chemistry than myth

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Hololive EN and Nijisanji equally collab with vshitshow, nijisanji is not particularly likely to collab with non-nijis. I don't know why this narrative exists.

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>>25385368
I have no idea what you just wrote I just came to say that I would fill Enna with semen.
Also, reddit spacing, kys.

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>>25387233
The utter delusion when Hololive is known for dyke behavior and same shit you suppose that they oppose. You bury Matsuri and hope no one mentions her. No forgot that washed up menhera, Mel, Choco, and Haachama are literal whores in plain daylight. Not that you deny they are, yellow fever is just intense for you that it's fine in those cases. There's E-girl behaviors there as well, guys I have huge breasts Noel, I'm not like other girls Towa. There's also the washed up old ladies but that's fine, they obviously haven't slept around, Koyori, Lamy, and Chloe. This is the main branch and if you think these rotten roots can produce any good offshoots then you have successfully deluded yourself into total psychosis.

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>>25387554
Luto hates pretty much everyone and has constantly shown signs of depression.

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>>25387656
NijiEN collabs with people outside of Nijisanji multiple times a week. How often does that happen with HoloEN?

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>>25386316
>Ollie
>Mori
>Kiara
Nothing of value was lost.

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>>25387820
They don't though, you're literally lying.

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>>25387233
>western trash
>the same company that popularized it in the first place with Coco
Lmao

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>>25387727
Did you call Lamy and Chloe old ladies?

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>>25387867
Let's look at last week:
NijiEN vocal training collab with Shxtou (indie)
NijiEN Valorant collab with Gumi (indie)
Reimu Keep Talking collab with Misora (WACTOR)
Vox Keep Talking collab with Shxtou (indie)
NijiEN Friday the 13th collab with Noah (VSPO)
NijiEN Valoran collab with GirlDM (indie)

What about this week?
Alban Vocal training collab with Shxtou and Bao (indies)
Millie Tagalog slang with Kaheru (indie)
Pomu Clubhouse collab with Ayamy (A HOLO MAMA)

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>>25385368
Ironically NijiEN went to shit when they started to isolate themselves more. It's introduction of Luxiem that put them where they are now.

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>>25387992
Yes, I called them hags!

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>>25388176
Lamy is 23...

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>>25388075
Selen had an APEX collab with an indie named Hiiro this week as well

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>>25388201
source?

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>>25385368
>nijinigs finally realizing that the whole stream invasion thing is a bad thing
Maybe you can be saved after all

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>>25388201
Hag territory. I will finish my point here by pointing out that early on Holo sluts live were known for hag's sweet nothings ASMR sessions and even the young 'idol-lite' Akai Haato sold her voice to give sex SFX for her viewers. This only got worse with time. This entire console war like conversation on 'purity' is stupid.

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>>25385368
I mean you could idk, watch some nijiEN streams before posting this thread.

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>>25388467
They're still pure because they're acting like sluts to me(the viewer), if they do this to other male vtubers/streamers then they're whores

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>>25388075
>Pomu Clubhouse collab with Ayamy (A HOLO MAMA)
You've won ENkeks, I'll watch this one.

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>>25388871
It's better to make the viewers happy, yeah.

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Its funny to me cause an enormous chunk of vtubers that the hivemind here calls whores, where ALL inspired by Coco, so what does that make Coco exactly? Slut prime?
As for your datamining question, the answer is no, Hololive is stale and boring as all fuck and its been getting worse, especially on the EN side, contrary to the stupidity in this place, a collab doesn't mean they'll start talking about dicks all of a sudden, people know how to behave if they are told to.

Hopefully Hololive keeps declining and they're forced to change things up a bit.

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>>25388467
Anonchama, hag territory is 30 and above..

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>>25385368
>and have gained significantly more drama as a result.
any nijiEN drama that happened in this 1 year of the branch existence is either
>Finana being dumb/womanchild
>Female fans of the males being unhinged

Vshojo as never really part of any niji drama, unless you consider the infamous prophunt the zentranny organized before even obysidia debuted

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>>25388467
The difference is that they're doing it for the viewers, its not them talking about their boyfriends and sex experience. It's just them doing gfe.

There's a huge difference between that and flirting with people on stream.

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>>25386316
>unityfag
>only cares about people collabing with vshojo, gives no shits about other corpros or indies
every time

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>>25388467
>23 is hag territory
Not even a cake
She's literally a zoomer

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>>25391745
If a chuuba flirts with one, it's TERRIBLE. If a chubba gives the teasing experience to the entire audience they're not promiscuous. If you buy a prostitute before they've slept with anyone else, they're pure by this logic. Just keep giving them money. The most respectable industry in the world

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>>25392059
She's not sleeping with anyone. She's pandering for views. And while I dislike it and wouldn't watch it there's a world of difference between the two. 1 is just them role-playing with the audience. The other is them going out and bragging about their normalfag tier bullshit lives.

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>>25385368
>they've acted a lot more like Twitch streamers
But there are Twitch indies like Dutch Nina, Fallenshadow and Pikamee nowadays who act way better than most of HoloEN? Why do people keep trying to generalize all of the vtubers on a website that they'll then proceed to admit they don't actually watch?

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>>25392119
Same with Onlyfans accounts. They're not sleeping with anyone, they're pandering for views. Now with an anime filter thrown on. Following this thought means a Vtuber avatar could run an Onlyfans without the stigma.

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>>25389939
It was charming when Coco was vulgar and she was a good contrast to the idol image.

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>>25392265
It would be better sure.
But its still them whoring themselves out with their actual body instead of just roleplaying on stream.

You have to be actually brain damaged to not understand the difference between roleplaying and actually doing something.

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>>25392355
Roleplay does not dismiss the fact that the girls are marketing themselves as partners to thousands of men. In several 3D scenarios, they have even shown panties to the audience.

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>>25392582
>roleplay doesn't dismiss
yes it does. because they're playing it up for fun and as a character.

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>>25392697
There's no difference between a coat of makeup and tossing an anime character over a person. As there's no divorce between individuals and their personas. This could be argued or overlooked were they writing or acting as a character in a fictional environment. Though these are real people, taking real money, for fulfilling the role of a significant other.

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>>25385368
Sorry fag, still not watching Holo "2 stream per week is peak" EN.

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>>25386381
that's false, Elira and Pomu already collab with vshoujo and indies before Ethyria, STFU newfag

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>>25392059
No, dumbass, that’s the wrong metaphor. The real metaphor is that the unicorns don’t want to fuck a prostitute who’s fucked other clients before, and they delude themselves into thinking she hasn’t. People who like seeing all these dudes around are like clients who pay a prostitute for the cuck experience—literally fucking another dude while they pay.

Most of us are like normal clients—we know she’s slept with other guys before, we don’t care as long as she has common sense and spend our time talking about those other clients.

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Hololive EN was isolationist because they were top dogs by a huge margin. No one would benefit them thus they didn't want to give others exposure. There is a problem with this on the other hand, if the outside beings to flourish without you then how willing will they be to accept you in? What will viewers think of this sudden change of heart? If you begin to diminish how would you maintain relevance as an isolationist?

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>>25385368
>I think it's no secret that Holomems tend to only collab with other Holomems, and are more or less quarantined from every other Vtuber company.
t. EOP
They have constant collabs with 774, Nijisanji & Noriopro.