/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Half a year already passed
>No announcements or closing of the auditions
Gee, are westerners really that fucking bad? I thought Cover was embracing that not every male has to be gay so we wouldn't have that many fujoshit pandering males in the EN generation.

[Anonymous No.]

He's in,have faith, quality over quantity

[Anonymous No.]

Well to be fair, I still haven't applied yet

[Anonymous No.]

I actually expected this to be over already since the rumors of Mumei and Faunra's IRL boyfriends shut down all their social media and streaming around the middle of this.
But is finding the last 2 to 3 guys really that hard?

[Anonymous No.]

I wouldn't be able to do this. I don't want to feign being a flaming fag for clout, my pride simply does not allow it. Plus I'd get fired quick for cursing out the nepotism hires should they piss me off I'm cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
It's not going to happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313545
me too

[Anonymous No.]

Every dumbass applying must probably be talking about want to do collabs with girls making it easy to kick them out.
They gotta keep their shitty idol image after all unless it's the ID girls who for some reason are allowed to do more collabs with the guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
They should hire Gura's bf. We know the Welsh are great pussy magnets, and he does voice acting like Vox used to do. I believe he also sings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
No surprise if only 1 person debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
Still waiting for Sseth and/or Chris Voiceman to save HoloPro

[Anonymous No.]

It's either the lack of support for stars that makes people hesitate to apply in the first place because why would you deliberately want to be treated as a secondary. Or that cover really want to force a certain mold onto the applicants that clashes hard with what they would want out of this and it makes them drop it.
What cover offers them may simply not be good enough. Maybe give them their rights to the character after 2-3 years of service or something. Would be good for the girls as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314009
Stars get an extremely disproportionate level of corpo support relative to their success, they're the CEO's pet project
They're also clearly not required to keep up an image like hololive given 50% of Roberu's streams are him fending off thirsty women from other agencies

[Anonymous No.]

I'm just hoping the new Gen has Shirow Miwa and Yuji Himukai as their artists.

[Anonymous No.]

>one of the largest female fanbases
>recently moved to YouTube
>unironically more seiso than most corpos
>likes blue cunny
It's obvious who their next pick is

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314009
Unless one of the EN Stars manages to be a huge hit the branch will always be secondary for obvious reasons, but they do receive almost the same amount of support compared to Hololive. The only thing they lack is the big sponsorship deals, but that is less on Cover and more on the companies hiring them. So as long as you don't value interacting with the female talents so much (and you're fucking weird if you do) then the worst part about the Stars is how being "Holo" doesn't help then in anything since their fanbase and Hololive's have almost no overlap. With NijiEN you're already guaranteed a good sized following from the get go, while right now a StarsEN is just a concept that we don't know how well it'll do, and using any of the current Stars as a comparison then there's not a lot of hope.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijimale 2 flopped so Hololive is probably rethinking if they want to debut males, they don't have the chink market and they have seen that the males turbodebuff the females if they collab so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314274
would be a downgrade for sykkuno, dude is already massive

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
>no closing of the auditions
isn't that the whole idea of open auditions? the form is always available now for both girls and guys. i doubt they even have plans for a specific gen release, they're just waiting for the best applicants to trickle in and be kept on standby until they have enough to release them as a group. hopefully that means we'll get one male gen and one female gen, both of top quality, after a full year or two, rather than the nijisanji approach of just pumping out everything under the sun. not that either approach is naturally better, but it's a good way to differentiate from the competition. nijisanji is already the "we have something for everyone" company, so hololive should strive to be the "we have the prestigious, top-class, best of the best entertainers" company instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
>Open audition
Anon, it'll never close.

[Anonymous No.]

>He is in

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
YAGOO PLEASE DON'T BE A HACK AND POACH LIMIT BREAKERS I NEED MY GRANDPA IN HOLOLIVE AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN FORCE AT LEAST ONE MIRACLE BUILD
He does great fanservice, waifu abuse and bfe too
Ps: Not the useless grandson, I want grandpa limits with the kino voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314377
I imagine he'd be the type Cover is looking for with their stringent scouting but anyone that meets that standard would be taking a downgrade as you said

[Anonymous No.]

Oh boy, I can't wait to be Astel 2.0 but in english.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314554
>hololive tts chuuba
is it even possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
Well take your pick. You have guys that might actually want to be idols, like and follow holostars but have no experience in creating content, or you have people that don't give a single fuck that are only in for the girls even though they are content creators already.
You also have established content creators that simply don't see any point into tying themselves to a company.
Of course the first gen needs to start off strong too, so I think it's fairly normal for Cover to be picky.
I still think we'll see an announcement in a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314618
I would kill for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314554
Are you this guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314634
Am I allowed if I want to be an idol but don't speak Japanese and as such don't really follow the JP stars too closely

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314744
oh my god that rocks
my dad wants me to join starsEN

[Anonymous No.]

You also haven't heard anything about the closing of auditions saying that "we've already picked Hololive EN3" on the girls' side now haven't you? Can we assume they're not coming as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314783
ayo supportive family gang
my dad’s way more supportive of my goal of being a vtuber than he probably should be

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
>Gee, are westerners really that fucking bad?

Look at the Niji EN dudes for the answer. They either are that bad or they're pretty boring and untalented. There is not a good pool of male vtuber talents to recruit from and traditional streamers with any degree of success are going to be highly skeptical about becoming vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

En3 auditions were opened first and will come out first. Stop shitposting, hololive had never rushed new branches, it took this long after EN auditions to launch EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314744
>>25314783
>>25314812
God I wish my family was this supportive of me. I stopped streaming because of how much they feel the need to talk down to me about it. Not even a vtuber, just a normal streamer

[Anonymous No.]

With the switch to open auditions you're never actually going to get any advance warning of a holo(live/stars) gen again, they'll just show up out of nowhere like HoloX did

[Anonymous No.]

I would try out but I only ever streamed once and the only presence I have is annoying people on wrestling discussions and with how high their expectations are for first gen I will probably wait till 2nd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314996
nice marketing

[Anonymous No.]

They were artificially hyped up during the time of their concert, cover already took over the reddit board getting management as mods. It was all fake and they waited to long getting the new guys out causing them to flop, this is all good though because with nijien becoming some weird group where everyone’s dating eachother and yelling at their fans it might make cover rethink starsen. Vshojo not helping things either with their new eceleb dating culture that will surely end in disaster and shitflinging by the end of the year. The worse things get hopefully the more Hololive sticks to what got them here, although they’re dropping the ball lately too considering half the company is phoning it in at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314377
I'm already in but I guess you guys wont believe me. Announcement is coming soon for Holostars EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313632
if they hired their talents spouses that would be branch suicide

[Anonymous No.]

>>25314996
>wrestling holostar
pls
i believe in you
teach them all the meaning of kayfabe

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315049
I'm in too tho? wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313789
Good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315049
>>25315098
wtf guys are all of us /here/??

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
They canned the idea. It was an impulse decision when they saw Luxiem but when their 2nd generation flopped they realised the market isn't worth it. They also realised that the vast majority of Luxiem's fanbase is made up of chink fujos.

[Anonymous No.]

Starsfag here. I sincerely hope that StarsEN will never become a thing. I cannot begin to imagine what kind of people they could potentially hire that wouldn't be a ticking yab bomb. I'm sure they've filtered out most of the trash already, but I can't help but feel worried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
No one applied because they realised there's no future in holostars. They'd be left to dry by Cover with their 3view stream forever. Unironically a better idea to go indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315126
https://voca.ro/11rE1UT0Zqvu

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
>Gee, are westerners really that fucking bad?
That's not a problem. Cover would gladly take even worst ones. Problem is that no-one wants to apply to ShartsEN, even the bad ones. They literally had to create a teaser trailer and remind people that they have an audition.

[Anonymous No.]

>He is in

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315201
I promise I'm normal anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
they probably have a hard time combing through all the retards that only apply to get into contact with the female chuubas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
It was probably canceled due to lack of interest or once they got hired on, they were told various restrictions and decided that it wasn't worth it. Besides, being a NijiManji is way more lucrative than HoloStars

[Anonymous No.]

How many dudes do you think send our applications and in their videos they just talk about all the sexual stuff they want to do with the chuubas? like these dudes know they are not winning and they are doi2ng it to fuck with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
Thank Uproar for putting fear into cover about males again.

[Anonymous No.]

If I made it in, I would do nothing but play KOF 2002 and shit on everyone that plays Apex.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll laugh if mumei fauna and gura boyfriend join and mori start sending them nudes while drunk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315706
yeah but all ur viewers will be mexican

[Anonymous No.]

The streamers that are auditioning are probably cod warzone streamers having 0-2 viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315730
Money still money.. Even if Mexican

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315722
She has a bf? When did this happen?

[Anonymous No.]

Future of Holostar group
Amazing atheist wings of redemption T-Martn Tyler1 and boogie

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315880
I want Amazing Atheist and Linkara in so I can hear them have a conversation

[Anonymous No.]

at the end for the day, hololive/holostar are idols. u either gotta be good at music or have a strong past life. streaming isnt even needed

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315956
If they hire me, I'll do a cover of "Noche de Sexo" by Wisin and Yandel while looking at Reine

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313632
Eddy is a fking chad, shame I can't find him

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316016
u and reine wont ever be int he same room, just how iti s

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316016
I heard that song somewhere... The mouse and i share the same raise. I'd sing "maldita puta" by las guanabana looking at mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315956
i feel like even music guys are kinda turned off by the permissions hell of working for a japanese company. karaoke streams and covers are so sorely limited by it, and i feel like anyone who wants to make original songs would rather do so outside holo where they won't be pushed to shoehorn in japanese lyrics or use shitty english lyrics given to them by jp writers

[Anonymous No.]

>Holostars EN
>Mostly everyone applying are beaners and wetbacks who speak Spanish
there is your answer

[Anonymous No.]

I would apply if I had 3 months of creator experience, but I currently only have 2.

[Anonymous No.]

i would apply, i can dance but that doesnt really help me a lot

[Anonymous No.]

I gave up my role because my Genmates are 4 black niggers and I refuse to collab with them or act like best buddies.

[Anonymous No.]

I cant see why anyone would want to join en homos honestly
Jp Homos probably don't want you, you're hyper restricted on the content you can stream and you probably aren't even allowed to initiate conversation with any of the female members
It's a so close yet too far job for the people who are fans and not good enough of an upgrade for those who aren't

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316508
think about the end of year christmas parties. you get invited to cover company hq to get drunk with everyoen

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316508
Seems like a fun job that could probably also land me a Japanese visa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316508
They get a salary which would put you somewhere above wagie without having to wage. Not nearly as bad as you think.
>JP homos probably wouldn't want you
>the female members
Not a problem. It's their loss. The real meat is collabing OUTSIDE the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316557
I guess so, can be a nice chance to make some good friends too

[Anonymous No.]

anons intensively submitting their resume because they think they'll get access to the girls. While in reality you'll be stuck in a sausage fest and have dick measuring contest ASMR instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
The thing is: Talented men doesn't need to hide their face behind an anime character to make success no matter how ugly they are, so for what reason would any of them want to join Hololive aside from getting closer to the girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316617
I mean at most you are probably gonna be in a group chat or discord with some of them to ask questions and shit so I think that's a win, plus the ID girls always do collabs with guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316236
If they write their own material they won't have to deal with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331

Considering how holo en turned out id rather not have this hapeen at all. But i guess cover needs to compete in the western femcel market because Niji Riku is a cumguzzling faggot loving homo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
>interested in anime culture enough to larp as anime boy
>not being a massive weeb sperg
>interesting enough to carry the channel without react content, politics or profanities
>singing skills
>hard to fully dox and no yabe stuff if someone were to dox them
>no ugly roommate in case they get doxed
>didn't just apply to meet their hololive oshis
It's pretty hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316567
>get a salary that is way above wagie
Source? Is it from the voice in your head?
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpw7b1qV3qw
They will get only like 20,000 yen a month which is far lower than the lowest salary in Tokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
The ones that are good, would never be vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317126
That's from Feb 2020, before she got monetized, when her only income was from people buying the meme PPT t-shirt
mid-tier holos currently make 30-40x that amount a month just from memberships

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317073
>no ugly roommate in case they get doxed
This one does not exist. Otherwise not a single HoloshartJP would pass auditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313882
>We know the Welsh are great pussy magnets
Do sheep really post on /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317263
NTA, but the topic was clearly about salary and not about yt monetization.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317126
That equals to 154 USD
They better be off working at McDonald's

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316676
This, if they were entertaining they would already be big by themselves. And if they were already big, why would they join a corpo with restrictive content creation rules and sacrifice 50% of the revenue they generate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317483
Women. Who doesn't want to fuck kiara?

[Anonymous No.]

You can’t convince me that the people on this board that ritualpost about how it’s never gonna happen and even if it did why would any man bother to apply are anything but bitter losers and unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317126
>way above wagie
Now you made that up. I wrote "somewhere above". Learn to read, Steve. They essentially get some money just for existing.
>video
That's old. They can get around just fine with membership money by itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317384
JPs are good at hiding their faces on social media since the Hasekara Calamity
The west loves uploading pics of their unfiltered faces on social media

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317530
Kiara is a dime a dozen. You can check just chatting and find a bunch of more attractive e-thots

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317530
me, she isnt my type

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlaelMQlUy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5lv79B2mA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjnuRy-quI8

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317721
No e-hoe has as much grit, determination, vigor, fun, and charisma as Kiara does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318014
nene?

[Anonymous No.]

>No sseth
Dropped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313391
would be extremely based desu

[Anonymous No.]

Sseth is too autistic to be in Holostars and I really mean that

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317424
I would not be surprised if Vox turned out to be Welsh too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317073
>tfw meet every criteria except being interesting (ie. probably the most important one)
so close yet so very very far

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317073
I unironically meet all of these requirements. I think I’m gonna finally apply this month

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317530
Me. I really do not find her attractive in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318280
Which country are you from? Just wondering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318280
gl anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318361
I’m from the southern United States.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316508
>Jp Homos probably don't want you, you're hyper restricted
Why? They've said they hate foreigners or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318700
You’re replying to someone who is repulsive and thinks everybody else gets treated the same way as him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318700
Jp fags lying to themselves they know they love gay gaijin

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318700
Oga seems like he would be a Japanese nationalist to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
As for "why is it taking so long?", you have to consider what Cover is IDEALLY looking for. They're probably holding out for / expecting their highest aim to get the magical can-do-it-all superman:

>someone with a well-documented public track record of professional content-creation experience, ideally going back years so they can see you're "serious" and yes they will also take into account how high your previous subcount is and rank people accordingly
>who also has outstanding qualities in some creative or performance field (singing, voice acting, illustration, editing, music production, dancing, etc.). And no, they probably don't consider your amazing elite gAmINg sKiLlz on which you built your whole personality or identity around to rank as highly as you think. It doesn't matter how many sick headshots you can do, if you have no other redeeming qualities and are just a boring husk with a shit voice you'll always lose to someone who's maybe a worse gamer but actually entertaining and sounds better.
>since you'll be mainly doing livestreaming, you'll need to have an engaging, entertaining, likeable personality that can captivate audiences for hours on end (also the main target audience is FEmales, as confirmed by the job description of the new EN males manager, so what YOU (male) consider entertaining will probably differ from what they're looking for)
>ideally you're also already fluent in japanese, for easier collab integration with JP Stars etc. So... have you done your reps?
>your past is free from any yabs, controversies, and you're mentally stable enough that you won't cause them any trouble down the line
>and last but not least, you're actually serious about Holostars itself, you are familiar with them and know what to expect (for example, you know and are ok with the limited "segregation" from the girls, and aren't going to throw a fit over it or try to subvert it) so you don't have to be told everything but can be trusted to actually want to grow Holostars and are not just looking (yes, not even as a sneaky side "benefit", but rather not at all) to just get closer to the girls.

Now, whether they actually FIND enough of these superpeople that check all the boxes, to actually fill a whole gen with, is another discussion. Probably not, and that's part of the holdup that's taking them so much time. Either they wait in the hopes that enough of such superskilled unicorns do eventually still come around, or they will have to lower their standards one by one (if they're not outright postponing or cancelling the project altogether) to find enough "least worst / best of the rest" people to get a gen filled.

But it stands to reason, that if you are such an amazing super man that you check all the boxes, why the fuck would you even consider applying for Stars in the first place? Most likely you're already a successful streamer / content creator (if you really have all those skills and talents, and you're not, there's likely something rather wrong with you), and Stars would probably only be a downgrade.
(And then it always circles back to the last thing on the list, you actually just want to get closer to the girls, and that is exactly the shit they probably want to avoid as much as possible, and the motivation of at least 90 percent of the shitters that are applying and need to have their garbage applications filtered out)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318875
>Black Japanese nationalist

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318955
oga is black?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318955
He is an Ainu

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318769
Wasn't meant to be an insult to anyone, just assuming the jealousy factor of newfags showing up and instantly getting x2 your success by just speaking english.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25319153
Yeah, and Robel is Ethiopian, keep up Anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25319201
I really think you’re assuming the worst of those guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25318905
Also take into account that anything close to said superman would be applying for Nijisanji instead which means that Cover will eventually have to lower the standards and basically just hope they get someone with thick skin enough to become their first StarsEN and hope for the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25319312
Yeah that's true, I'm pretty unfamiliar with them, just basing it off of past experiences with my workplace which obviously isn't everywhere. Sorry

[Anonymous No.]

It's time for the weekly HoloStarsEN thread, so that one anon can vent he got rejected and project

[Anonymous No.]

>>25319473
Yeah, I can't believe my video detailing all the sexual acts I would perform on Ina and Sana didn't get me the job

[Anonymous No.]

>>25319984
Of course it didn't. The person who checked your application had no idea who the hell is Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25319984
Ina probably the only virgin in holoEn which makes her perfect. Her pussy still got a hymen and she's most likely faithful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25320202
Her rm had a bf

[Anonymous No.]

>>25320358
So fucking what?

[Anonymous No.]

Prob waiting for the NijiEN rejects

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a starsfag and I never liked the idea of an EN branch but if (You) get in please find out what the fuck happened to the Guilty Gear Strive permissions and get them back so I can watch Oga and Shien playing it again. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25320564
Not a virgin

[Anonymous No.]

>>25320699
I’ll do my best. What floor were they on?
And if I can’t make it happen will you at least watch me play Vampire Savior once the new port comes out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
I can only hope they are not as annoying as nijiEN males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
forsen

[Anonymous No.]

Hire me Yagster and I will sing an amazing cover in Spanish of Pegasus fantasy and Soldier Dream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25321295
They only got the early access to the beta so there weren't any floors yet. Rikka got a round off Kizzie tho, so that was kinda funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25321058
Just because someone had a boyfriend/girlfriend, do you automatically assume they've had sex? She could've been saving it for marriage.

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>>25313331
Why do you guys care if they do fujo pandering? None of you will watch or support the males if they get in anyway? Since you guys care so much about numbers they won't do any better than Uproar if they rely on a male audience support so why do you care if they're gay or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25322437
I have a really deep voice, if I got into homos EN I would go full Cox Akuma and extract money from their purses while shittalking the fujos in the Holostars discord channel

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>>25313331
With how much of a success the English Niji Gays were, I don't think Cover wants to rush this. If their first generation bombs, it will mean their other generations will suffer, too. Just like how NijiEN (Women) can't really compete with Hololive at all because they went from debuff squad to debuff squad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
That's because auditions are always open now, like the jp ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>25316617
>dick measuring contest ASMR
Fuck yes I've always wanted this

[Anonymous No.]

>>25317073
>not being a massive weeb sperg
But women enjoy those kinds of men....

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
as someone who watches the jp Stars, this shit is absolutely terrifying to think about and i would prefer Stars EN to never become a thing, i don't want EN drama and shitty tribalfags going after the Holostars if Cover decides to bite the bullet and actually make this happen, i just want to watch the boys sing and play games with each other in peace, the Stars fanbase is so quite right now and i don't want whatever cancer is going on with the Nijimale's fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>25323802
Would your opinion change if Cover didn't have them collab with the JP guys or no?
I really think Cover is going to do a good job with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25323961
At most they are probably just gonna become Calli, Irys and Bae's gimps that they will walk all over anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25324113
I really don't see that happening.

[Anonymous No.]

Joining holostars is career suicide. No wonder no one wants to fucking join that shithole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25323961
honestly, no.
the ENchuuba scene is an absolute mess and if Cover does get EN boys their collab pool would be limited to either just their own group or with their senpais at JPstars

>>25324113
why would they? the Stars in general almost never interact with any of the Hologirls outside of ID and a few exceptions, their fanbase has almost no overlap with the girls so collabs with them would be pointless since most Holokeks don't watch males.
they'd be better off building their own fanbase and making their own audience since Holostars at least in JP have said and emphasized multiple times they don't want to be accessories for the girls, they built their own fanbase because of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>25315706
based af

[Anonymous No.]

>>25324469
>honestly, no.
Bummer man. I’ll do my best to exceed your expectations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25313331
They probably want guys who would be professional and stay away from the girls, but in EN side I assume it's hard thing to find.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25322762
Why shittalk behind their backs when you could just do it right in front of us?
https://youtu.be/WkZvtHQ9rxA?t=2970

[Anonymous No.]

you have to consider that finding a good male vtuber is kinda harder than a female one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25323519
Based watch the sc rack in with all the dick talk.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope I make it into holostars if only so I can free myself from reading this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25325719
That's probably a huge factor. I don't think a lot of people understand the girls and guys are kept separate for a reason. They have a brand and an image to keep up that benefits them and interacting with each other isn't really why audiences for either watch any of them. Hologirls and Stars have their own fanbases and they don't work the same way as Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25325848
>in front of us?
Fujo-chan... you're kimoi...

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>>25324469
You may want to add part of the old guard from Holo JP as well since some of them don’t mind collabing with males. Add Nijisanji EN and the main Nijisanji branch (since KR and ID are part of JP now) to their possible collab pool . In any case, Cover just has to look for strong solo streamers and those willing to network outside the company.

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>>25313331
This was a reactionary response to NijiEN, so hopefully they took a step back and realized that Niji has a fundamentally different setting and fanbase compared to hololive.

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>>25326479
They can get some decent males but it’ll involve getting a lot of diamonds in the rough that Nijisanji overlooked.

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>>25318875
Are you saying that for his age?

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>>25325719
Why would anyone risk collabing with the EN girls when you could get all the indie and small corpo pussy you could want? The only risk is Mori and Ollie annoying the shit out of you.

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>>25326438
>Add Nijisanji EN and the main Nijisanji branch (since KR and ID are part of JP now) to their possible collab pool .
Not likely since Selen still hasn't been allowed to collab with Ollie despite both of them loudly wanting to for months. Same for Pomu and Kiara.

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>>25326098
>Hologirls and Stars have their own fanbases and they don't work the same way as Nijisanji.
Which is exactly why I think the people who post in these threads about how the EN Stars are going to ruin their GFE are complete morons. That just isn't going to happen.

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i just don't really see the need for a holostarsEN

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>>25326438
niji jp maybe since the Stars are on good terms with them and they collab with them the most, niji en though....probably not a good idea until they've built their own audiences and established themselves since niji en right now is drama central

>>25326479
Cover has been mulling over an EN branch for Stars since last year since they figured out the boys have a lot of english fans, they've also been asking for males since last year too but probably don't have any solid plans on what the group should be like so of course it'll take forever, honestly i think they should consider it even more carefully since ENvchuubas are like playing with dynamite

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>>25318905
To add on to point #2, if your creative skill isn't already singing/dancing, you have to understand and accept the fact that one day you will preform on stage.

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>>25326760
That’s the girls which is a completely different playfield. Who knows how the men would be handled.

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>>25327004
If Ollie can collab with mika/bobon/siska/hana/gundou/dola but not with Selen then it's not a girls thing, it's an EN thing.

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>>25326791
Neither do Starsfags apparently. Most of them from what I've seen on their thoughts on an EN branch are:
>they don't want english vchuuba drama bleeding into their currently quiet fanbase
>some want to have an EN branch but only because they want new boys in their own language and for collabing with their senpais
>some who don't want an EN branch because of the risk they'd be making by having ENchuubas with the Holostars brand doing something that could cause a stir with how Holostars is seen as

Starsfags sound pretty against this but there have been some that want it just so they can communicate with a new Star more affectively since most of them don't want to annoy any of the JPstars by spamming english in their chats.

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>>25327094
Then it’s on NijiEN management being silly. Then again, they’ve been clearly favoring their males, especially Luxiem even over Lazulight.

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>>25317073
Singing is my barrier to entry and what's kept me from applying. I wish I could sing but I've never practiced or taken any training. Are people just born with talent that is polished? Otherwise I meet those conditions but also it is just better to apply to Nijisanji once I get my streaming experience to more than a couple of months.

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>>25327178
I've seen at least one post saying Astel doesn't want EN stars because he's afraid he'll lose EN fans to them, but I don't know how true that is.

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>>25327289
Haven't heard about that one but this is also one of the reasons why Cover didn't push out an EN branch for Stars after so long apparently, since from what I heard they didn't want the current boys losing any of their ENfans at the time since the Stars have a relatively small fanbase but they have been doing better now especially compared to their first year, with Astel who was originally the lowest in subs becoming one of the highest with ties in the Apex scene and great karaoke streams, Roberu becoming pretty well-known in the JPchuuba sphere with all his collabs, Rikka's music streams and their concerts plus cafes and fan meet ups.

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Realistically?
Most men who are of a quality that they want are probably more than capable of making it on their own and so because of Covers reputation in regards to men? They opt to do that.

There's also a lot less new blood among male streamers these days in a general sense as the ones who exist have pretty aggressively carved out every niche going.

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Holostars EN shit makes me depressed, I really want to be a chuuba but I have no chance getting into any corpos since my past experience with making content is basically nill. Hope the dudes that do get in actually appreciate the spot they have and aren't just one off hires like Mori and Ina who don't really give a shit about the community or the job itself :/

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>>25327807
So at this point just give it another month and Cover will have to lower their expectation and then whoever is the lucky guy who gets to send an application where they show they know how to set up a stream, have a separate talent like drawing or knowledge of some kind of hobby and can at least sing decently and they are good, at this point I'd say fuck it. give them a webcam interview to see if they are mentally stable and done.
You can't expect to get a Pewdiepie level person who will want to become a Fujobait that will play nothing but Apex and the new hit indie game of the time to appear out of nowhere.

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>>25328081
I doubt Cover would do that to be honest.
They seem more like the sorts to just sit and wait until someone who meets their criteria shows up.
Unless someone like Yagoo gets involved personally which at this point I suspect they're too big to have happen.

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>>25328081
>just give it another month and Cover will have to lower their expectation
Or they'll just decide to not do it, like they have before.
https://twitter.com/hololive_kr
https://twitter.com/hololive_in

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>>25328235
I mean those two are the most extreme examples of failure to spread a market but that's really cause both those countries have no interest in chuubas. EN male market still has space it can carve out despite NijiEN taking the spotlight.

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>>25328235
Yagoo didn't gave up on Holostars when Suzaku, Kaoru and Kira all graduated within a year

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>>25325719
I've always wondered, is it really that hard to keep it professional?

I know I'm a weird person that is able to just disconnect personal feelings, but I kind of expected for at least a few talented people to be able to hold back being horny.

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>>25328514
It cant be that hard to just agree to not engage with any of the holoEN women

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>>25313331
>>25314009
Some guy made a youtube video about the interview process and basically said cover prefer people who have idol aspirations, in which modern male streamers don't want to touch with a 10ft pole

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>>25328386
It's not failure, it's just a decision not to. If you want to see real failure then look at niji india.

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>>25328582
I think at this point even mentioning them in a non sexual way can get you dq'd, like saying "my inspiration is Ina because she is an artist like me" will probably get them to think you want to fuck her.

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>>25328221
>They seem more like the sorts to just sit and wait until someone who meets their criteria shows up
Mostly likely this. Cover has been on the fence about a male EN branch for over a year now and the ENchuuba scene is pretty risky right now.
I doubt they'd recruit anyone for a gen1 branch that would cause any kind of trouble.

>>25328386
EN male market could work out or something could go wrong since unlike the NijiEN males the StarsEN boys would have the "idol" brand on them and there are a lot of beggars that don't seem to understand the guys and girls in Holo are separated for a reason. Mix gender collabs within the company are unlikely and the boys themselves will probably refuse and stick to solo streams or collabs among themselves.

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If I "sneak" a Golden Boy quote into my audition video am I doomed

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>>25328749
If you manage to make it as inconspicuous as possible you should be fine. Cover is probably looking for weebs too since you'll have to keep up the character you'll be given.

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>>25328667
That wold be pretty extreme, but I can see it happening if most of the people they've interviewed so far were found to have ulterior motives.

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>>25327649
>becoming pretty well-known in the JPchuuba sphere with all his collabs
95% of Robe collabs are him getting invited by other vtubers. Even RoberuNightMea collab happened because Mea asked him for 10 collabs in a year. Winning son is just very desirable

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>>25328599
Well it is an idol company so of course they'd want guys who actually are ok with being referred to and seen as "idols".
Most of the JP stars from what i've seen of them don't really act like idols either but they do have to perform on stages, dance and keep up an image where they don't cause yab. Other then that though some of the shit they do is pretty nuts.

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>>25329183
>Other then that though some of the shit they do is pretty nuts.
Like what exactly?

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>>25328599
>Idol aspirations
Yeah, I really want to meet Chainsaw man

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>>25329183
This is frankly what I find so appealing about the prospects of joining Holostars. It seems like I would get the best parts of being an idol while also just potentially getting to be a variety streamer. And maybe a Japanese visa.

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>>25329250
Latest one was with the new boys doing a 34 hour long endurance Cuphead stream because they wanted to beat the game.

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>>25328386
Problem is that for EN the USA is a big chunk of the market so you have to tailor to them.
Which means you can't take a lot of English speakers since people from the USA can't understand them.
You also need someone who isn't going to offend their sensibilities. Which means a lot of English speakers are out. Good lord could you imagine how much the yanks would start screaming if a Frenchman made sex jokes?

So your options are either to recruit yanks. Which Cover is shying away from now because they've realised that doing so comes with a lot of annoying complications especially for bringing them to events. Since the USA is one of two nations to tax its citizens globally. Calli already had that shit squared away. But for Gura? Ame? Its going to be a frustration that they can avoid.
EN gen 2? Not a single yank. Closest they'll take to Americans is Canadians.

OR you recruit Brits.
But you run into multiple problems there.
First you got sensibilities. British humour is quite unique and often vulgar by American standards, not as horny as French humour but certainly enough to make the yanks reach for their pearls.
Second is the problem that modern bongs are extremely conformist normies. You go out on the streets and almost all young brits have the same handful of hairstyles and behave exactly the same.
And anime, vidya, etc? Are not considered "cool" in Britain.
Those trying to get into streaming are generally talentless or trying to do something retarded and focused more on something normie tier like tiktok.

You get the right Brit however and the american fujos will be dripping wet and throwing all their money at them.
Problem is the right Brits are either already doing something independent and profitable like Connor. OR they're just not going to try and apply in the first place.

You do also have the bonus options of Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Which Cover have dipped into heavily for Gen 2
New Zealand is immediately out due to internet issues.
Australia. Frankly Cover has been very lucky to avoid a "g'day cunt" from the ozzies they've got so far. To an extent they have the same problem with Australian men they do with British men. Normius maximus.
Canada. A good option overall to be honest. North American so relatable and comprehensible to yanks. Similar sensibilities. But like in the USA you got the problem of those who could are going to do it independently.

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>>25323636
I don’t know man.
Women like what they like, guys like what they like.
Some women dislike weebs, some are okay with them.

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>>25329371
I'd say do a 100% Dead Rising run, that means doing infinity mode too which will fuck them up.

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>>25329391
Do you think we don't have the internet here in the United States or something?
The Americans that post on this website about not being able to understand certain ESLs that are fluent in English are just racist larpers, anon. The average American Hololive fan is already engaging with the brand while being well-aware that it's a product of a foreign country, and as such I doubt they would expect Holostars to be as Americanized as you're insisting they might want it to be.

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>>25329630
Thought it would be great if they got a Terry Bogard like vtuber

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>>25329391
That's a lot of risk, yeah, but Cover recruiting someone French that can speak at least good english would be interesting. I'd like to see if they'd find any talents outside of the US or Brits that would be interested in applying.

>>25329511
Bro, they'd die. I don't think anyone in their right mind would do that even the streaming monsters in Holostars probably wouldn't make it.

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>>25329630
You're not thinking about this like a corporate entity AND you're not really aware of how difficult to understand some accents can be.
Even some English ones can be impossible for Americans to understand.

Cover will be looking for someone with a voice that would be considered "charming" or "attractive" by American standards.
So all those bitches who go "Oh I loooove British accents" are not talking about scousers, highlanders or the valleys. They're talking about a stereotypical accent that exists primarily as a media contrivance courtesy of the BBC literally MAKING an accent and training a lot of its staff to speak that way.

>>25329936
Nah French are too horny. There'd be too much culture shock for it to work out.
He'd unironically have an easier time as a Japanese only streamer than an English one.

But I don't think we'll ever see anymore holos from the USA.
They're just too much hassle in terms of book keeping.

[Anonymous No.]

He's in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv-Fh7-QwU4

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>>25329936
Maybe they should attempt it.

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>>25313545
same desu

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>>25328514
That's the thing. A vast majority of the applicants are probably applying with no intention of being professional. They see free easy access to their Oshi's private DMs with faint hopes of sparking something, playing together, or meeting up. Those who can act professional and coexist without being a sexual harasser will surely get it, but Cover still has to sift through the thousands of degens to get to goods ones first.

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>>25331145
>but Cover still has to sift through the thousands of degens to get to goods ones first.
lol
lmao
cover sets up a number filter to auto reject anyone below twitch partner or youtube partner status. simple as. you think they're going to give your 5 minute audition tape a listen when you haven't even streamed more than twice?

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>>25331208
If thats the case then Cover is unlikely to get anyone.
Since any male streamer who makes it to that point is going to have little need for Cover

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>>25331368
Uproar boys are all very high specs and no corpo will refuse Fuma application
>but muh numbers
holostars debuff is just that bad

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>>25331432
What I mean is that any male who gets to partner status has no reason to work for Cover.
Getting to that point as a male streamer is hard. But if you manage it then you're probably going to do well solo.
At that point why accept external management of your channel?
Why submit to Cover when you have no reason to? Why split the money when you gain very little for it?

In regards to its girls Cover has mainly profited by picking over those that traditional media wouldn't touch. Girls with physical defects, severe illness, psych issues and personality flaws that would fuck them in the public eye.
How often are they talking about going to the hospital? A lot. Theres a reason for that.
Its the same with stars. At least one member of holostars was a homeless bum living on the streets when he started.

EN was weird in that it got a lot of fairly stable and well adjusted girls.
With the exception of Gura of course. But even then its clear WHY they've been struggling prior in their attempts to get anywhere in music or as an idol/entertainer.

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>>25313331
It's an open audition you dumb fuck. You guys clearly don't research the stuff you complain about.

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>>25331643
So what you're saying is that I'm a shoe-in.

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>>25331643
how many male vtubers even have twitch partner when it's filled with ethots?

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>>25331707
I don't just mean vtubers I mean ANY male streamer.

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>>25331208
Yeah, people overestimate how long it takes to "go through thousands of applications". (especially now with the "always open" rolling audition process, where you don't get flooded by all the applications in a short period at once, but they trickle in more spread out over time)
You can assume Cover, like any other business really, doesn't spend the same time carefully looking over each application individually. Like in every other business, it's probably a semi-automated proess and a majority of applications can be more or less instantly filtered and thrown into the garbage because of some obvious glaring fault or other lack, cutting down the number of chaff quite significantly because you can often determine in mere seconds if someone is or isn't worthwhile enough to take to the next process step. Wouldn't surprise me if the final breakdown looks something like 80% of all applications can be instantly dismissed in under 5 seconds of looking at it, the rest take under 5 minutes of thinking about what to do with it, and only an elusive 1% or so of the applications keep them occupied for longer than that.

>if they find something in your written app that they don't like / find not enough of the stuff they do like, they will not watch your video. Could be as harsh as you didn't check some arbitrary box or made a typo somewhere, well too bad, insta-filtered.
>and you can bet your ass they do take your previous subcounts into account, and if it doesn't meet their arbitrary standards, they don't consider you further.
>if they watch your video, they will close it at any time if they find something they dislike. They simply don't have the time or need to suffer through substandard garbage when they have mountains of (probably also garbage) other applications to review. Could be as harsh as even just three seconds in when they first heard your shitty voice they immediately nope out and chuck you in the bin
>only if you passed all the initial screening filters they would even think about putting you on an actual interview list, where you have only more opportunities to embarass yourself and flunk out because you couldn't hold a conversation or didn't have the particular skills or vibe they're going for

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>>25331804
this. there's plenty of males talking about how their videos only got 2-5 seconds of view time. barely anyone got more than 30 seconds viewed. /vt/ likes to cope by saying watching the full 5 minutes would take weeks but the reality is that no one ever gets their videos viewed for the full 5 minutes.

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>>25331643
Oga wasn't a streamer you know

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>>25331643
Calli and Kiara are not stable so add them with Gura

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Hard to tell how things will work out for HomoEN but I think Cover's making a mistake with their current business model aimed at Stars specifically.
If I were Yagoo I'd consider trying to lure in at least 3-5 already established or fast-growing vtubers (or streamers who are willing to continue streaming as vtubers) with their whole fanbase. That would most likely boost current Stars and create a better environment for future talents who would continue to debut under currently existing framework. Basically, do what VShojo did by recruiting top indie female streamers. Of course, that would mean they'd have to offer fair contracts just like VShojo did and I'm not sure if JP company is flexible enough to do something like that. The only time something similar happened was when indie Suisei joined but she had to give away any rights to her model/name which is not something any established streamer would ever do.

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OP is a faggot

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>>25327289
He never said anything like that. It's a misinterpretation of him saying if people want EN they have to support JP first.

In fact a while back he mentioned how he's noticed he had less kaigai viewers and "he knew why" (NijiEN) but he wasn't upset and said it's only natural people will go to where it's easier for them.

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>>25313632
Since Mori's boyfriend's career has been tanking lately he has also applied.

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>>25331999
Doesn't work, Fuma previous life was number 1 male vtuber

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>>25332107
>another faggot brings up jp as if it'll matter in the west with an en male

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>>25332130
You bring up Suisei first, bitch

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>>25327287
people have "better" or "worse" natural voices, but most of it is proper vocal training and experience. just start doing your reps now

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>>25327287
Oga, Robert and Pizza dad can't sing for shit when they first join Holostars

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>>25331963
Compared to Gura? Calli and Kiara are bastions of normality and stability.
I don't think people really appreciate or understand just how lucky Cover got with Gura.
She claims she wasn't approached by Cover but if she wasn't? Then Covers really dropping the ball.
With badly done and inconsistent content she managed to hit 1 million subs with barely any effort. A natural knack for comedy and a pleasing voice.
But literally zero ability to actually understand how to monetise that and no possibility of breaking into normal media talent pipelines.
She was literally the perfect girl for Cover.

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>>25323636
>But women enjoy those kinds of men....

No they don't. This is one of those "things that women only like on the internet but actually finds it disgusting"

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>>25332107
Yeah but probably most of his (casual) viewers have no idea where PL Fuma went because they don't lurk in dox sites or places like 4chan. The point I was trying to make is that it would be more beneficial to allow them to join with their current channels instead of trying to play that "this is a completely new person" card and hope some of their PL fans find out. If you have a well-known person joining your agency what's the point of trying to completely disassociate his current fanbase and make him/her build it from zero? Sure, if you want to debut 5 new faces as generation then having 1 or 2 known people with hundreds of thousands of subs would be weird but why not just allow them to simply join as solo vtubers? Top talents in music industry constantly change their labels and no one asks them to erase their names prior to joining.
Cover wants to have full control of everything and it seems they're not ready to deal with individuals who don't want to give up their rights to a corporation. Kson talked about this recently. Maybe one day Cover will function as an actual talent management company willing to take in indies or talents from other corpos but it doesn't seem to be coming soon.

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>>25332525
Vtubers in this sense are the wet dream of corps since they get to own the entire identity

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>>25331963
Calli despite being a fucking sperg with a considerable ego and her own issues is highly functional, remainder that she was living in Japan by herself despite having the level of Japanese we already know. Kiara is a similar case but even more accentuated, she went to live in Japan at the time she should have been finishing highschool, and after returning to her country she started living on her own while still being a fucking teenager. We know that neither Kiara and Mori are the sanest people on earth by I wonder how many of you would be able to pull out something similar to what this two bitches did kek

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>>25332243
Not sure how they got recruited but they got pretty lucky with Roberu having insane charisma. His singing has gotten better but he definitely can't match up with Astel, Rikka or Izuru.

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>>25313331
Arent those permanent auditions? They might never close them. Having said that it's extremely hard to find EN males that would fit with the Stars and know how to behave in relation to girls.

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>>25327287
If the hired Ame of all people you are not doomed anon kun. Don't get me wrong i don't wanna belittle her but how are you supposed to show "la creatividad" while passing the auditions? Did she taught Bubba to bark Hororaibu or some shit like that?

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>>25329299
Most anons in these threads don't watch the Stars and believe they're just like the NijiEN males, when in reality they're pretty normal guys who do stupid shit and even Oga and Shien who give the most fanservice aren't like that 24/7. You'll have to start your idol reps at some point, but other than that you can chill with the other boys and play games for as long as you want.

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>>25327943
If you want it that much start now anon, maybe it's too late for you to make it in this auditions but anything great enough requires time. See Mori for example, the person who had zero knowledge neither interest in chuubas and she is now the 2nd most subscribed Holo, and everything cuz her obsession with J rap and nipponland (i don't understand yet what J rap is supposed to be)

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>>25332751
>you can chill with the other boys
Or you can go collab outside and automatically surrounded by bunch of cute female chuuba like Son, Seaweed and Arupapa

[Anonymous No.]

Instead holostar EN just give latinos HoloEs spanish women are slutty and know how to milk money from desperate men plus it keeps the fucking retards from writing translated walls of texts in holoEn.

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>>25332973
Like that one Argentinian chick that pretended to be a loli vtuber but her IRL self was a woman with big tits and a fat ass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25333048
Nimu concha de tu madre?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25332525
Your new is showing. Companies have adopted established talents in the past and it literally never works. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how numbers work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25332973
I could have sworn we had this discussion before were central and south America don't pay for anime shit unless its dragon ball related or something like. Those people ain't got the money to superchat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25332973
Reimu has the lowest views and SC of all NijiEN and she's spic.

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>>25333184
>superchat
And in Holostars case it's merchandise. They're super predatory and I swear there's almost always new plastics every week for the past year. And they only got 9 members (uproar boys are too recent)

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>>25333124
Susei worked pretty well

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>>25333184
Bullshit.

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>>25333515
Have you seen Mexico and their draonball super fandom? They once held soccer stadium viewings for dragon ball super. I shit you not anon. You think Mexico or anywhere below America can actually provide an audience good enough for hololive?

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>>25333602
Then just have a vtuber that looks like a Saint Seiya character, plays KOF and does the Goku spanish voice impressions and done, Holostars EN helped COVER tap into the LATAM market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25333124
Hello? Suisei?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25333948
>Saint Seiya
Yeah ok, if Cover can cover all those bases to get these countries to pay attention. Imagine getting the Saint Seiya artists actually involved.

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>>25333213
She also rarely speaks Spanish. What is your point?

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>>25333124
What established talents did vtuber companies take in and it didn't work out? If anything, isn't VShojo a prime example how taking in established talents can work out well? Sure, many of them may be twitch thots but that's just them doing their thing. From business point of view it clearly paid off cuz they're now looking to debut new talents and getting investments.

[Anonymous No.]

You guys talking about the possible success or failure of Holostars EN, but forgetting that the bigger issue is simply the YouTube algorithm. Just see that members like Astel and Roberu, with their exploding clips, have grown absurdly

Even Rikka at the time Sushi made a clip of him saying simp showed that the power of the algorithm is an important factor. And for some reason, the boys have no luck with the algorithm, apart from Roberu

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>>25333213
She got a buff on debut and she straight up said that she would never pander to spanish people and went into irrelevancy

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>>25335610
Astel has numbers only if he's singing or playing Apex which language barrier doesn't affect that much. Meanwhile Robe got big because he often appear on Tamaki and Haneru streams which easily can reach 3k viewers minimum.

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Before the clips of Astel playing Apex went viral, especially the one of him tilding people using Mad Maggie, he was the channel with the fewest subscribers. Roberu, long before he became a frequent guest on Tamaki's or Haneru's channel, was known for the clips of "I'm Winning Son" and the clip where he talks about the URL of his channel which is "YOUCANDOIYT".

After these clips went viral, Roberu went on to average 1,000 viewers daily on almost every stream. Astel became popular in the Apex sphere, which contributed to him having numbers in these streams and as a result of the clips attracting an initial curiosity, people also checked out his Karaoke streams.

Speaking again about Rikka's clip, after that he had a good boom in views, but with the lack of new clips of him going viral... He went back to having a low viewer rate even in Karaoke streams. So in fact, clips are essential... And because of this, the YouTube algorithm needs to boost and recommend said clips to reach people. There are clip channels dedicated to Holostars members, for example Reigan and Takamura-kun, the latter making more Roberu-focused videos, both still translating the content into English. Which increases accessibility for people who don't speak Japanese

Now, if the anon above still disagrees with that. Again, just see and search on your own that most starsfags joined this fandom because of clips and that membership numbers go up as long as they have clips that go viral, but again speaking... For some reason, YouTube's algorithm hardly recommends clips from them often. 2021 was when they had the most clips being recommended, and as a result, they all reached 100k subscribers and had very good average numbers. Now the algorithm has gone cold again when it comes to recommending clips, except for Astel and Roberu that almost every clip about the two of them gets an average of 10k views or more in a matter of a few days

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>>25336976
I think this is one reason they should rebrand holostars as hololive

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>>25336976
Astel already has 2k viewers when singing/apex on vsaikyou S3 (choco + roboco team) before Mad Maggie isn't a thing. His actual incline actually begin with Ollie collab.
Meanwhile Robe viewers was around 500-700 for several months and then steadily increasing after "fucked all animare" moment that led him to become Haneru & Tamaki regular collab guest. In a sense clip do help Robe but it's not English clip that help him the most. It's Haneru's clip that keep bringing new viewers to this very day

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>>25325719
The issue is....if you cant promote your channel with the girls why would you pay hololive their cut of your superchat money?
If the girls dont even mention your channel, you have to pay for doing a cover of a song, and your content is restricted I prefer being an Indie.

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>>25331999
>but she had to give away any rights to her model/name
No

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>>25337785
This is a major issue for stars.
The value of being in the holo ecosystem is cut dramatically if you're unable to do any cross promotion with the much more popular live

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>>25337785
You get salary, costumes, 3D, participate in concerts. Seems to me like a very good deal instead of trying your luck with being an indie.

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>>25337785
>>25337943
Holostars is corpo hard mode. Even cover still sabotaged Holostars time to time like when ID3 overshadowed uproar debut

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>>25337785
That's nothing compared to how EN branch is getting robbed. They still have the same default 50/50 SCs split contracts as JP senpai do but they can't use any studio facilities for recording/singing/dancing lessons, can't record 3D concerts for anniversaries, can't have live 3D collabs, can't have streams involving offline staff (such as Aqua's sushi eating stream) and they still don't have their own Hologra. The only exceptions to this rule are Mori and IRyS (in part). Mind you, once StarsEN debut they'll be in the same boat as HoloEN but they won't get any of that big shared viewers pool Hololive has. Knowing what hell awaits them, people joining StarsEN have my admiration and I hope at least some of them will make it in this industry.

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>>25313331
There are multiple things to consider:
>You have to be talented in multiple areas
>You have to dance
>You have to somehow entertain an audience that has a high chance of not being interested in you at all
>You have to be interested or you're immediately dead in the water
>All while roleplaying as a pretty anime boy
>No doubt that you have to not be fat or horribly ugly and can prove to staff that you can actually take care of yourself
>And also there's 98% chance your Holostar design will look like DOG SHIT as you look like the most overdesigned pretty boy faggot imaginable

Really, think about that. Even if you get past all the requirements and you're one of a kind, do you realize what a fucking bummer it would be if you didn't get a design like Roberu's and Aruran's and instead you get some ultra fag shit like Izuru, Astel, Shien, or the clown fiesta that the entirety of Uproar's designs are? Jesus Christ it's such a hard position to fill because there's so much involved with taking up the role and actually being happy.

I have no doubt there's anons HERE right fucking now that could do the role but chose not to apply because fuck that shit dude.

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>>25338224
Stars is basically the vtubing equivalent of playing dark souls but your only weapons are your fist and your completely naked. You gotta be a special kind of crazy to survive and keep going.

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>>25337931
What do you mean no? I only saw 1 video of Suisei talking about it and she said she basically had to beg them to keep her model because they wanted to get her a completely new avatar. I don't watch Suisei that often so if you know a video/clip where she mentions that she gets to keep all the rights to her own name/model then please kindly share it. Otherwise, it can be safely assumed she's in the same boat as other members and would get removed from existence if Rushia level yab happened without any chances of Cover ever letting her go solo again as Suisei.

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>>25313331
I still dont see the appeal of male vtubers

There are literealy thousands of male youtubers/streamers in every single niche so whats the point in having a virtual avatar?

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>>25338306
I feel like you'd have to be made of literal steel to be able to even make it through Holostars especially considering in EN they'll have to deal with not just having basically no audience but have beggars swarming them for collabs with the girls, people comparing them to nijimales and not considering they'll have nothing in common most likely and be completely different, and probably get treated even worse compared to the girls. So, yeah, StarsEN sounds terrifying.

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>>25338766
why can’t male vtubers be a niche then?

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>>25329486
You.....you're not targeting the women who dislike weebs, otherwise why are you applying to be an anime man streamer?

>>25332295
You sound like you've been hurt or been wrongly influenced to think women are a certain way. Women do love weeb spergs, you've just been exposed to the ones who don't and think all women are like that for some reason.

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>>25338886
Most of them can be solved by speaking Japanese. There are tons of small to middle sized vtuber that will gladly collab with a Holostars.
Since only nijiEN is no go, there's still former Niji ID and KR that can speak english. Or if you brave enough you can target English speaking Japanese vtuber like Pika, Shirayuri and Oliver which all already friendly with Holostars.

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Man, the way I look at it StarsEN would be "Dante must die" levels of difficulty.

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>>25338766
There are many twitch thots and yet VShojo still pulls good numbers. There are many idol groups in Japan and yet many still want to watch vtuber girls and men sing karaokes and do 3D concerts. There are also good/popular FPS streamers in Japan such as Shaka but FPS-oriented vtubers are still way more popular. Heck, you could argue why watch anime when you have so many movies/TV series with real people? People like their content presented in a certain way and it just so happens that many prefer anime style avatars to real people. Actually, Kson (Coco) talked about this how some people feel even disgusted by fleshtubers so there's that.
As for males specifically, men are looking for cool "brotubers" and women are looking for...Vox.

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>>25339459
Can't be worse than the hell Miyabi experienced

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>>25338698
It's possible that Suisei kept the rights to the name, character and old model, since it was all self-made and, according to Japanese law, you can't renounce to the rights of whatever you make. The new model belongs to Cover though, if she left hololive, she would have to make a new one.
Robocosan is more or less the same, the original author made Robocosan's model long before hololive, but it doesn't belong to Cover now, it belongs to the original author.
Hoshimachi Suisei and Robocosan aren't in the list of IPs owned by Cover. Unfortunately, I can't find the list. It must be somewhere in the archives.

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>>25339824
Don't remind me. He had to endure that shit ALONE.

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>>25339870
In all probability there's a licensing agreement with very sweetheart terms for Cover.
Something like exclusive rights to monetise it in the form of merchandise and such. No actual licensing fee.

>>25339476
Personally I think in the west at least a male vtuber trying to do something along the lines of "supportive father experience" could do very well.
But in a way it'd be even scummier than girlfriend experience

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Want to be a chuuba
>Enjoys factory games or any games that make numbers go brrr
>Sings along to Gregorian hymms
>Appreciates a good whiskey but doesn't pass on buying pitchers of beer at the bar
>Gravelly voice
>Shit luck in games
>Looked but no Dorf chuuba anywhere
>also can't spoilertag to save a life....

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I got in. I'll mention something about chocolate when I debut. Remember this

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At this point if there's ever a holostarEN i can see a few nepotic hires such as Mori BF only for his shitty music. HoloEN doesn't need a male branch. In fact i think the branch is over saturated and there's need to be some culling done. And then unified myth with what's left of council.

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>>25340290
That's vague as fuck, be more specific like saying Oga's horn is chocolate candy or something

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>>25313632
>gen full of boyfriends
God this sounds like such a funny idea, too bad it'll never happen

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>>25313331

What the 1st EN MenGen SHOULD BE!!!!

>Connor
as some dude, maybe a kemonomimi.
>Joji
the emo funny guy, not supernatural
>J.T Sexkik
the living embodiment of meme energy, personified
>Tex
a terminator
>the guy from Dark Docs
HP Lovecraft /Fox Mulder clone

you know it.

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>>25314294
this is because

....Unironically...

Vtubing really is a Woman's Job.

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>>25338348
>like Izuru, Astel, Shien, or the clown fiesta that the entirety of Uproar's designs are

Always funny to me that anons are so oblivious to the fact those twinks are exactly what women love.

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>>25333048
Who?

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>can interact with hololive behind the scene
>can freely collab with female chuuba from other company (except NijiEN)
As long as you're not chasing big money, being a Stars EN might not be that bad

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>>25338348

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>>25342146
Except that cover is looking for westerner versions of mafumafu which means they want the guys committed to the idol image meaning no interaction with the chicks unless approved by management breaks those rules and you'll graduate within your first 10 minutes.

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>>25342815
>cover is looking for westerner versions of mafumafu
So they are looking for a guy that will play Apex with girls.

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>>25342815
>no interaction with the chicks unless approved by management

This is not a thing.

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I'm sure your typical anisinger that has low sub-count and is able to sing, play several instruments and make his own mixing has applied. The problem arrives when in this already small pool of people you look for someone who's entertaining enough and isn't an ESL. Then of course you'll have to get wannabe VA's to fill the rest of the gen and maybe try to compete with NijiEN for the audience that consumes that type of content.
So yeah, Cover has a tough job, and like many anons said, if you're what they're looking for chances are you're already better off without joining Holostars.

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>>25341483
what we really need is Zyzz.
>we're all gonna make it bros

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>>25344444
>checked
quintuples of basedness

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>>25343050
Sure, but not the hololive girls, any other girl is OK, and maybe Ollie as pity

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I'm waiting for Pako to make a handsome chubby wizard before applying.

[Anonymous No.]

Collab beggars and StarsEN doomposters should kiss. Both talk extensively about Holostars but don't watch them.

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>>Half a year already passed
You DO KNOW that ALL debuts happen 8-9 months after auditions open, right?

Nevermind this board is full of fucking newfags

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>>25346224
>You DO KNOW that ALL debuts happen 8-9 months after auditions open, right?
>not a single noteable content creator has announced a hiatus or graduation

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>>25346282
>Not all Holos have been vtubers or even well known content creators
>They don't HAVE to go on break when they're chosen, many have done it halfway through their incubation and some even a fucking month before their debut
Thanks for proving that this board is full of newfags anon

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>>25342241
I don't know what this means.

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>>25346374
>make up random shit
>other anons don't believe the same thing that i just made up on my own
>lol newfag
>gottem

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>>25346573
>>>>>>>>>>>>>make up random shit

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>>25346604
source: trust me bro

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>>25346573
>doubling down
Stop anon

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>>25346604
>>25346650
>those timestamp
cringe. took you a while to find that picture didn't it?

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>>25346224
>You DO KNOW that ALL debuts
t. HoloEN newfag

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>>25326438
>Nijisanji EN
His point was that the en sphere is filled with shit, why are you recommending him even more shit?

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>>25333048
Source?

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>>25314996
fucking based

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>>25315201
Maybe this is why it's taken so long to debut Stars-EN?
Sure they could hire a few dudes off the streets and some ex-indies to try replicating Vox 5 times over.
Or, they take their time to develop a group of cool dudes with good chemistry and fun interests.
At that point, you wouldn't have to do BFE, ASMR, shirtless pics, or Chink Pandering (not that they could in the first place). Heck, if done right, you wouldn't even need collabs with the females!

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>>25314996
There's no way that's real...

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>>25333602
>>25333948
>>25334172
Someone hire these guys. They'll make Cover Corp a billion dollar franchise.

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You know, I saw some anons saying that maybe now in June we would have more news about it, and I stopped to think... In fact, that may occur. All the big Holostars announcements have occurred at big events, Uproar!! was announced at the time of the first concert and then unveiled at HoloExpo. And now in June. You have their third anniversary, it's the perfect opportunity for them to announce the EN branch and a sneak peek teaser of the members