/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>muh parasocial bad!
>proceeds to make content that encourages parasocial behavior
the absolute state of NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
she's a two faced bitch, what else is new?

[Anonymous No.]

And her 3 retarded gachis will eat it right up. Unbelievably based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
Everyone already knows that Nijisanji En are hypocrites.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
She has no viewers so not like she is losing anything, if anything by attacking Vox' fujos she intends to actively hurt him. What a jealous bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

Must suck being holofag the drama of other companies is more interesting than your own streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
based

[Anonymous No.]

Holo cope thread? Holo cope thread.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck her fuck whores fuck all these bad people doing good in life, why the fuck is it like this? Only cause they have nice voices???!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
>>25259883
>>25259886
>>25259902
>>25259912
>>25259929
>>25259940
>>25259941
>>25259946
Wow, who else knew that Nijikeks are just like their livers (human organs) shocking revelations!

Ban Nijikeks, truly the blight of of Vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

Her tub farting introduction was enough to know she's got not talent other than pandering

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
https://twitter.com/Ionized_Odds/status/1531594488866562049?t=-tC7ZJeNwT8NazlOzSBxWg&s=19

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259941
This has nothing to do with Hololive. I watch Niji EN since Lazulight debut and I agree.
The fact some of them still do GFE/BFE and keep saying "parasocial bad" is the summum of hypocrisy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
>>muh parasocial bad!
Not that I'm disagree'ing with your point that Finana is hypocritical - but yes the definition of parasocial is literally a one sided relationship which IS bad and isnt a real replacement for your primal human needs for friendship

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259978
English is hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25260264

ok falseflagger

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259929
actual holofag here. Currently we're in a big EN stream drought. Ina and Mumei are on break, and 3 others are basically permanently on vacation mode

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
>the gta strip club incident
>the cake incident
>the entitled bitch incident
>the recorder incident
she's the only one i want found dead by ""suicide"" (two shots to the back of the head)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25260396
>gta strip club incident
Spoonfeed me anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25260396
>>the gta strip club incident
qrd?
>the cake incident
qrd?
>the entitled bitch incident
qrd?
>the recorder incident
qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

Nah don't blame all NijiEN because of that bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
Parasocial good when make money but... le bad when consequences. The factory I work at drops metric tons of waste into the ocean, but people killing fish are cringe and should touch some grass

[Anonymous No.]

>>25260479
she stuck her sister's recorder in her vagina and didn't wash it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
She gets a passed for her yummy thighs

[Anonymous No.]

>>25260582
unironically, where did the didn't wash it part come from? she spent more time talking about how she washed it than she did fucking herself with it

[Anonymous No.]

Why are there so many threads about Finana?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
>goes into fan discord servers and ERPs with them
she does so much stupid shit and gets away with it
far worse than anything Reimu did
how do you kill a fish most efficiently?
poison the water?

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>>25260906
she already farted in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25260112
What's going on in Minnesota?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25261174
Nothing. It's Minnesota.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
Nevermind the fact that she's only really calling out Vox's crazy Chink Fujos for taking it too far in this case I guess...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25260309
It's not supposed to be a replacement for one-to-one friendship, it's just another form of social interaction. The strength of someone's parasocial attachment to media figures in their life often has no relevance to things like lacking traditional social relationships. Assuming all parasocial relationships are obsessive and pathological is exactly the mistake she's making by saying that, even if it was unintentional and she was short-handing "parasocial" to mean "toxic parasocial relationships". Everyone has parasocial interactions and relationships in their lives, you don't even need to stretch as far as GFE content to reach "parasocial". Even you do, though you might not admit it.

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>>25261344
Parasocial relationships are only healthy if the agent participating uses it for positive purposes, so at the end of the day it degrades to "parasocial relationships are fine as long as you aren't a piece of shit"

[Anonymous No.]

>>25261407
... Normal relationship are also like that... We have healthy and unhealthy relationship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25261344
so true

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>>25261525
At the end of the day, the focus on a relationship's parasociality is misdirection. It's down to the quality of the audience, and the quality of audience a streamer cultivates. The relationship could not be parasocial at all, and the problem would still simply be down to low quality participants.

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>>25259886
Meanwhile her biggest paypig is a cunnychad that is working on other girls and discouraged parasocial behaviors
Do you really believe they are in it to be Finana’s boyfried considering what a slut she is?

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>>25261709
>working on other girls
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>25261766
They think if you have an oshi you can't like any other femoid vtuber or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>25261709
https://twitter.com/chris_flandre/status/1531406440329621508

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259929
Streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259929
what streams

[Anonymous No.]

Finana is dumb. Colour me shocked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259929
It unironically does suck, thanks for caring anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259929
imagine being this retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
That's literally 99% of VTubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
you really saw the 5 other threads about this and thought, "yeah, one more for good measure". kys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25262560
this will go on until next week

[Anonymous No.]

>>25262678
Nope, Desuwa will hit 1 mil in two days and this drama will be entirely forgotten about.

[Anonymous No.]

Never watched her, but she seems like an ironic weeb, only able to replicate, never actually produce thoughts. The reason why it doesn't register as hypocritical for the people who do picrel is because there is no conflict of intention, in both cases they're simply replicating what their peers are doing.
Vtubers do this kind of stream, so we'll do it, only with a veil of irony on top to show how we're only ironically enjoying this. Vtubers on twitter talk shit about "parasocial relationships" (no I will not look it up what it actually means), so I'll do it too!
They're insincere automatons, that's why I can never really enjoy western vtubers for the most part. It rarely feels like watching people excitedly talk about their passion, it more often than not seems like people shitting on the things they enjoy to look "cool". I don't know if it's an age thing, maybe JP just has a bigger prevalence of hags my age? Could be.

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>>25260582
>>25260881
So should I assume she wasn't a virgin when that happened? Also, to be using a recorder, she would've been underage no?

[Anonymous No.]

Setting aside her hypocrisy, what the hell is that superchat reading thing? So its explicitly set up just to get superchats for that reason alone and not just going off backlogged SCs? That's pretty screwed up if so. Most other vtubers would do this sort of thing with chat or on twitter, so at least in theory everyone has a chance to participate even if you don't shell out a single cent.

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>>25264442
>So its explicitly set up just to get superchats for that reason alone and not just going off backlogged SCs?
A handful of beta faggots send her pick up lines every stream. So she's created a culture of "cheesy supas" where she milks them for money and pretends to be flustered from chat's pick up lines stolen from google.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
>make content that encourages parasocial behavior
I-i-i-it's not MY fault I'm parasocial, baka! The live-action chinese cartoon made me do it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25265398
Jesus Christ, I'd rather be a pathetic idolfag. There is at least something aesthetically pleasing about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
Yes, being parasocial is bad. It's almost as if when the stream ends, that's when the roleplay ends. Just because you're mentally ill doesn't mean everyone else is. Learn to enjoy a fantasy for what it is and then go back to real life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25265705
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25265705
NijiEN should learn not to attract mentally ill people to extract their money. Somehow my oshi never has problems with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25265949
If they didn't want to attract mentally ill people as fans, they wouldn't be a streamer LARPing as an anime character for a day job

[Anonymous No.]

>The whole drama was about vox
>Bronies keep making finana threads because of a single tweet
Milord really is untouchable

[Anonymous No.]

>>25266019
My oshi LARPs as an anime character and she doesn't attract more mentally ill people than your average singer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25260191
>chuuba thinks fans shouldn't act like they're in a one-on-one relationship with the chuuba
>tens of thousands of fans see it, and everyone watching is automatically reminded of this by the platform
>RP content with a Live2D avatar is somehow "encouraging" people to disregard the blatantly obvious reality of the situation

>chuuba sells a voice pack
>fan has literally no involvement in this besides opening his wallet
>it's sold to a general audience and everyone can see that it is
>somehow, it's HER fault that he thinks she cares about him personally

>other chuubas literally do porn
>this is just business, and obviously nobody would ever get parasocial about it

do /vt/cels really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25265949
What kind of fans they attract is not the fault of the streamer, shifting blame to them just because of the actions of a retarded person who can't tell the difference between fiction and reality is avoiding responsibility. Strangers aren't responsible for your mental illness when everyone else knows how to fucking behave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25266269
>chuuba knows for a fact that gachikoi bait content will attract schizos
>chuuba does it anyway for the money because they don't have much else to offer
>chuuba says "gachikoi must die" because they doesn't want to deal with consequences of their actions
>gachikoi in denial enable them becuase they are brainless suckers for mediocre pussy
>some of the retards go ballistic over nonsense and start a flamewar aka Tuesday in GFE space
>chuubas who don't do GFE and their fans have to deal with being surronded by this burning trashheap 24/7 because someone likes extracting money from mentally ill people too much

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>>25266349
All right, you can sit there and wring your hands about who bears the moral responsibility while the 'retarded' and 'mentally ill' people continue to not give a shit about opposing opinions and harass the streamer. This is like screaming in the face of a natural disaster that it's not fair instead of packing up your bags and running.

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>>25266043
Nah, people are still making fun of him for pandering to chinks and parasocial shit.
He's still a hypocrite and money grubbing shill like the rest of chinksanji.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Finana a pick me girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25261794
And they would be right, if you have a oshi, and watch other streamers of the same gender, you're whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>25266349
>>25266632
i just like to send death threats lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25266632
This is how nu westerners operate, when yet another tornado hits the US this month, I fully expect all the mutts to line up in protest in the hopes of dissuading mother nature from compromising democracy or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>25266349
It is absolutely the fault of the streamer if they do things that encourage parasocial attachment, they never had any intention of taking that seriously and just want to collect money, and the fans go berserk as a result. If you don't want people to get attached, don't pretend to be their girlfriend/boyfriend even in a "roleplay", simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25268682
>my retardation is everyone else's fault and not my responsibility!!!! I can't just be expected to take accountability for my own feelings and actions, everyone else has to solve my problems!!!
Burger hands typed this, and I hate how much I can recognize it as a burger myself.

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>>25261709
Nyanners still has unicorns despite literally right now riding her boyfriends dick
They are beyond lost

[Anonymous No.]

should i belieb some anti thread on veetee that cant get 300 of the same response or finaurnar's tweet with 10k likes

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>>25265705
Why doesnt she put her fuck off parasocial comment on her chat rules? Or better yet just come out and say she has a boyfriend? Those things can be done off screen, after the fantasy is over, right faggot? Or maybe she likes to keep the fantasy alive after the stream is over so she can keep taking paypig money

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>>25271018
>I can't just be expected to take accountability for my own feelings and actions, everyone else has to solve my problems!!!
Right back at you, directed at the streamers absolving themselves of responsibility

[Anonymous No.]

>>25271018
This has nothing to do with me though? I'm not parasocial for Finana or any chuuba. I'm just pointing out they're hypocrites for enabling this shit for their own benefit and then playing the victim when it blows up in their faces.

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>>25271555
You don't need to believe anything here or there. In fact they're pretty much seperate issues. That's the beauty of this affair in particular, all of us are just armchair generals commenting on something we can't directly affect.

The first discussion is a mechanical one. All people are saying is that it's simple cause and effect; you do more parasocial pandering, you get more crazy people. Do you believe this is true?

If you do, then obviously it follows that if you do less parasocial pandering, you get less crazy people. Yay.

If you don't, then carry on. If it turns out this theory is wrong, you, too, get less crazy people. Yay.

But in the event the theory is correct, and you carry on pandering, then you get more crazy people. Oh no.

For some reason that is most likely partially due to the confusion of 'responsibility', 'moral agency', 'fault' and other such terms in English being used interchangeably, other people are carrying on a completely seperate argument as to who is to 'blame'. But the fact is that it doesn't really matter, because the issue at hand for the former argument is reducing harassment, stalking, murderous instincts, et cetera. And deciding who bears moral responsibility does not alter this problem in the slightest. Let us say the streamer is 100% to blame. Okay, then they have to change their behavior. Let us decide the crazy people are 100% to blame. Okay, then surely they will change - hahahahahahahaha.

So either the crazy, irrational, emotionally immature, gullible schizos can spontaneously see the light, or the vtuber can do things - or not do things - to bleed them off them. Which side do you think is more likely to move first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
She's just being tsundere

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>>25259860
you can also be a porn actor, do rape porn fantasies/vids, and also be against actual rape. or you can be an artist that makes loli hentai but think that actual child porn is fucked up.
there's a difference between entertainment and irl

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259929
Kek

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>>25273274
none of these comparisons add up at all, but you know that well enough. Try instead: being an actual rapist while stating how much against rape you are or being an actual child molester and thinking child porn is fucked up. Then the analogy would fit, and you would have to see how stupid you sound.

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>>25261709
Chris is a pedophile but also wants to be famous on Twitter

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>>25264442
>>25265398
That’s actually sad and more pathetic than any holofag shit I’ve seen. Holy shit her fans are massive losers, and she still will tweet that. At the very least she could make it obvious that she’s talking about Vox’s fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25265398
I sincerely hope they're no one is taking them seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>25265398
I sincerely hope no one takes them seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>25274851
It’s unfortunately way too late for that. Those some fags are creating a visual novel where they self insert their oc to “date” Finana

[Anonymous No.]

Please understand Finana is an idiot and probably thinks "parasocial" means "when viewers are creepy and possessive"

[Anonymous No.]

>>25259860
>literal dumpster whore continues to be a dumpster whore