Do VTubers have any future?

[Anonymous No.]

Like 5 or 10 years down the line, do you think vtubing will still be around? Or is it just a trend for now soon to die out.

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>>2518108
ill ask my fortune teller next time i see her

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>>2518108
we will all be virtual in 10 years

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5 years? I think that's a safe bet.
10 years? That's a long time to bank on anything still being around. I'd say the chances are still high.

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As long as anime and streaming are popular vtubers will be around.

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>>2518108
I'm not very confident that even the internet as we know it will be around in 10 years.

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>>2518108
The medium has only existed for around 5 years. Only reason it didn't prior was because the technology didn't exist yet. In fact, I'd say it's a foundation for separating even further from 3D.

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>>2518108
vtubers will be around. im afraid what steps cover will take to cement themselves as the top in the industry. I can only imagine they will begin to sanitize their top earners to make them more marketable like Nintendo does with Mario. Maybe they downsize, and continue only with the technology because theres finally a bigger need for it. Who knows.

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>>2518747
Downsizing will happen by the start of next year. There’s just too many fillers, and the audience for a niche like this has basically peaked.

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>>2518108
The technology is only going to improve, and the normal courtship process between men and women will only deteriorate further.

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>>2519311
Literally WHY does Roboco still exist

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>>2519385
Because it costs near nothing to keep her around. When cover keeps expanding and spreads themselves way too thin she’ll be one of the first ones gone.

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>>2518108
The only things that would kill it are stagnation, and a lack of creativity and ambition.

- If the tech doesn't improve, its dead.

-If people are just trend hopping without improving their ability to entertain, its dead.

-If creativity remains stagnant and everyone just copies everyone else, its dead

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>>2519707
Top tier Vive Enterprise has eye, lip and tongue tracking and barely costs more than the iPhone X they stated with. We could have chuubas dancing around the room while playing games pretty soon.

https://enterprise.vive.com/us/product/vive-pro-eye-office/

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>>2519707
Top tier Vive Enterprise has eye, lip and tongue tracking and barely costs more than the iPhone X they started with. We could have chuubas dancing around the room while playing games pretty soon.

https://enterprise.vive.com/us/product/vive-pro-eye-office/

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I don't believe girls streaming for a male audience will die out unless there are major social developments (which is unlikely in the given timeframe)

so vtubing will also stay around. will it be the same streamers and will it still be as hyped as in 2020? probably not

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It's gonna stagnate if it stays stuck in the virtual streamer pit. Virtual music artist is still in its infancy, but has potential to grow bigger. There's a lot of unexplored areas for virtual beings to go.

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Vtubing will only last long enough till the 3d AI hologram technology matures. Once it happens women will finally be obsolete once and for all.

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I think there's a good chance everyone will talk through avatars but they won't likely call it vtubers unless for specific reasons. More subsections but branching off the same concept. Different name; same concept, basically.

[Anonymous No.]

Rushia is literally a millionaire. If she is smart with her money and invests wisely she can have a comfortable time for the rest of her life if she lives modestly. She will still need to work but she'd have an early retirement.

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>>2518108
Half the weebs I know want to try it at least. I know a few who are starting out as pngtubers. On a broader level It'll probably be like Anime, has a small degree of popularity but is ultimately a niche compared to the mainstream. I think anyone who thinks vtubing is some kind of mainstream thing is sniffing their own farts a bit too much.
In terms of Indies I think things might get a bit more bumpy, not going to say they'll all go corporate but true solos are probably going to decline heavily and it'll be more along the lines of teams/circles who operate as a unit who work together to build each other up.

Maybe more sponsored streams, I mean, so long as it's not too often thats fine, but it pays the bills.

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I believe questions like this are the reason Cover decided to make the Hololive Alternative project.

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No chance in hell. Vtubers became popular when the novelty of the concept took off i.e. anime girls as let's players. Once you kinda get over that concept and it just becomes commonplace, there's no other rabbit to pull out of a hat, i.e. it's not like a channel that can rebrand into doing iceberg videos or something similar, the formula pretty much stays at "make songs, play games, draw"

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I think the bubble is going to pop soon. It's getting too big, too many people are getting into it, and it's just not sustainable. The audience will get bored of it, the barrier to entry it too high for casuals, and there won't be enough of a revenue stream to make it viable outside of a couple staples that will stick around because they were big enough. You'll still have indies and hobbyists doing it for fun, but it's definitely going to be a passing fad that hopefully I look back on with fondness in another 5-10 years as just being a thing you had to be there for.

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unless variety content vtubers become more popular the hololive content loop will continue. play games -> draw -> karaoke -> occasional live concert. that's how it is. if people can tolerate just that for another 5-10 years, well, i have no idea.

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>>2518108
I think we're good.

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>>2518108
Eventually the novelty of mildly amusing women streaming behind a moving .jpeg will wear off. There's already a bit of a decline. The actually entertaining ones will survive, same as any other streamer, and the boring ones will fade into obscurity.

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>>2518108
Trends don't tend to last five years and vtubing has been around for longer than that already, is just that a lot of people got recently introduced by Hololive so they think that the industry is just starting. This board keeps claiming that it will die out when lockdowns are over but they don't realize that Japan moves on an entirely different pace than the rest of the world, let alone realize that there are so many artists and musicians who promote themselves as vtubers and will continue doing so because that's how they like it that way, not because they're aiming to be popular with gaijins.

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>>2532396
This.
Vtubing is a first, but major step towards quenching the male thirst for personal relationships and intimacy. Just look at all the people who are willing to drop hundreds of dollars just to have a few words with a girl (and i bet you they're still unsatisfied).
We will keep making strides towards further intimacy and personal interactions with vtubers, just like the hosto industry in Japan, and i don't see the trend stopping anytime soon.

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>>2541095Yeah, this is it. Imagine the technology 10 years from now... imagine holding parties with the vtuber in question, or feel like she's next to you in your room playing a game through some super advanced machinery.
In fact I'd like to be able to do just that, you know? No idol worshipping, just a small, honest conversation. It's something that still hasn't been explored much, due in part to Japan's idol worship, but it will probably change soon.

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>>2533075
>I believe questions like this are the reason Cover decided to make the Hololive Alternative project.
Pretty much

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>>2518108
VR, AR, robotics, and AI are going to change the field completely. You'll be able to have a personal copy of any Vtuber (or other anime girl) that will be intimate with you and fuckable.

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the way thing are going they will all become part of governments propaganda machines for control, that the future of mainstream net it seems.
unless criptotech and finance become the mainstream, than most governments will need to comply or crash and burn trying to be totalitarian shithole.

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I want Suisei's dream to come true

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>>2518108
vtubers as a whole have been around longer than half the people in this board realize. Kizuna Ai was just the first time the main stream heard of it, hell Hatsune Miku has been a virtual idol for almost 15 years now. Trust me when I say vtubing will be around for a LONG time. What we see now is simply another big spike in its popularity. The thing that will kill vtubing is if it all becomes too gratuitous in its purity or its edgy nature (ie EN Indytubers) or if it all just becomes stagnant both tech wise and talent wise.

tl;dr dont worry you faggots will be here for a while

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>>2518108
Unless they make smart investments, no. Online personality is not a sustainable career path.

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>>2543017
You can't just retroactively redefine VTubers like that. The different elements of VTubers existed in disparate forms pre-Ai, but Kizuna Ai was the first to bring them all together and create what we know as VTubers.

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>>2553293
My point still stands, virtual idols have been a thing for years now so anyone assuming that the wuflu "going away" is suddenly gonna kill all Vtubers is nothing more than doomsaying.

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Its ogey, VTubers are Lindy

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For vtubers to die streaming in general would need to die, they are all just streamers that for some reason or another weren't as successful as their selves, hell some are but they still took the job to have a more secure cashflow.
Also a good degree of separation for people with anxiety/autism from their viewers; and people that come from nothing like Pikamee and Roboco can live a safe life since nobody could dig anything about them to stalk

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>>2518183
Agreed, this shits just gonna get more accessible.

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>>2518108
Vtubers are the gateway to greater techologies, such as immersive VRtubing or other 3d reality format. Once we get to that point, traditional live2D vtubing will become abandoned. So maybe within 5yrs

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>>2518108
vtubers will always be around as the industry has already been establish but I bet in 10 years they will be nothing like we know it. the future could hold a streamer world where everyone is like that codemiko chic and hide behind highly attractive indistinguishable from reality faces that aren't their own

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>>2518108
You have no idea what is to come

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>>2553694
>and hide behind highly attractive indistinguishable from reality faces that aren't their own
Doesn't china already have an app like that?
https://www.boredpanda.com/chinese-streamer-your-highness-qiaobilu-exposed/

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>>2518108
Vtubers probably have the future, when you break it down to basic things: streaming, singing, amsr, gfe, podcasts etc those things existed for years and are still going strong. It's basically all down to a vtuber as a individual and what she or he has to offer without losing relevance. They are in a hard spot when it comes to that, probably the only entertainment industry where you have to deliver almost every day.

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>>2518108
the current top vtubers will move on to actual voice acting and no one will care about the ones that take their place
when we get AI waifus vtubers will be dead for good

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>>2553872
Popular rrats for Gibara is that she left exactly for that reason.

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>>2518108
Vtubing as in "streaming with a virtual avatar" will never die as a concept. It will evolve for sure, but that literally can't die.

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>>2518108
>Like 5 or 10 years down the line, do you think vtubing will still be around?
Easily yes. The real question: How much will the technology improve?

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>>2518108
The current gen will have 2 or 3 years more, and either move on to something bigger or completely disappear. I do think there will still be vtubers but the lifespan of a career will be 1 - 3 years.

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>>2533001
So it's like a mirror of the Youtube Golden Age. Like a Vutber Oil Rush first to get to it will win, and there will be some stragglers clawing at crumbs

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>>2518108
Waiting for the next global catastrophe while sitting in my relative ivory tower
2D Girls are the future

[Anonymous No.]

Like with most industries after the expansion phase comes the crash down to reality, 90% will fail or quit but the big ones will remain. Hololive is in a very stable position because it provides a unique product that cant be gotten elsewhere (vtube idol group). It costs too much money to get into that so there likely wont ever be any real competition to them.

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>>2519311
>Downsizing will happen by the start of next year. There’s just too many fillers, and the audience for a niche like this has basically peaked.
>>2519385
>Literally WHY does Roboco still exist

Each of these talents costs extremely little to keep around. Maybe 1k a year on hardware or software and then maybe 20k a year to hire a manager for them. Every single holo is likely profitable for the company but even if they weren't it wouldn't be worth the hassle to drop them.

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>>2532873
>Rushia is literally a millionaire. If she is smart with her money and invests wisely she can have a comfortable time for the rest of her life if she lives modestly. She will still need to work but she'd have an early retirement.
She is a woman. She could invest nothing and be comfortable for life by hopping on the nearest dick.

[Anonymous No.]

All industries like this work the same way.
First you have the initial stage where it's very unpopular but you have a few people chugging along trying to make it work.

Then someone gets lucky and breaks out. This causes a huge expansion. Most people succeed because there's an enormous market but not that many people doing it.

Then you get the explosion in supply. People see the huge success others are getting and now a ton of people try to get into it. Few of these people will end up succeeding, they got in too late.

Finally is the decline. The supply became too high and the hype starts to die down. Many move on and the market stabilizes.

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>>2557554
There are other VTuber idol groups though. hololive just happens to be the AKB48 among all the currently existing VTuber idol groups.

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>>2518108
it's new industry that isn't going anywhere

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>>2518108
Most likely for anonymity purposes

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When we get truly AI vtubers, we'll be able to have a vtuber that streams only for one viewer (you) because she is an AI. We're on the cusp of AI technology for having speech that sounds almost perfeclty human. The next step after that is AI that can behave and act like a human. Neither of these should take longer than 15 years imo. Given that every vtuber has 100+ hours of content on their channel, where they are usually speaking by themselves, it's also going to be really easy to feed training data to these machine learning algorithms.
I'm going to make a bold claim here.
In 15 years, we will have advanced versions of Siri, and there will be versions for normies, but also versions for weebs. The weeb ones will basically be vtubers, but it will be in your phone and she will talk to you and entertain you whenever you want her to. I fully believe that by 2035 we will have this. I'm going to train mine to be just like Gura, so I can have a pocket Gura with me wherever I go.

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>>2518201
league of legends hasnt died in 10 years, so im willing to believe vtubing can last 10 years

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>>2518108
vtubing will be around but your oshi won't. the fire burns bright and fades quickly.

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>>2570719
That shit is a religion lad. Technology is getting worse.

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>>2539929
How many voice actor will she go through?

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>>2539929
>4 years
>completely forgotten

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Look at how long the Simpsons went on for. They're tapping into the very same line.

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>>2518108
No
Once the fad dies out in 5 years they will all go back to being broke jobless average looking women now too old to get married
And they'll have deserved it after spending years leeching off lonely mentally ill men too stupid to know better
The top earners with dedicated fanbases and pay pigs like rushia will stick around and be relatively unhurt but for everyone else it's abandon ship

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>>2571125
>sour grapes: the post
They're not going anywhere. The fact you need an absurdly long timeline like "5 years" says it all.

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>>2518108
Depend on the creators. Youtuber playing as a character is not new. Some of them even make avatar. Vtuber are a off shot. Any vtuber making video essay/playthroughs without streaming? All the vtuber I get recommended see to only stream.
10 minute video of their edited gameplay off stream would be nice too.

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>>2571163
>5 years
>absurdly long timeline
you need to be 18 to post here

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>>2571210
>ha ha it's not long
Yeah, blink of an eye! It's only 1/15th of a lifetime!

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>>2553786
cant wait to get real PTSD from being inside an actual war movie

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>>2571253
maybe for you fattie

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>>2571304
>75 years
Math not your wrong suit, fuckboi?

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>>2518448
Hold this rusty bean can with a string attached to it. I’ll go to the other end and pretend to be pekora.

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>>2571644
There's more free speech in your non-existent joke scenario than the entirety of YouTube, atm.

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>>2518108
Vtuber is a form of art and art will die when freedom of speech die.

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>>2570719
the ai will be monitored by google and anything against the common opinion will be used against you

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>>2518108
well, it's somewhat have been 4 years since the first kizna ai video, and she's still making money.
my guess is we probably gonna have phases like past events, the downfall of 3 mins video and the rise of streaming as main content.

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>>2573113
This. Information and technology are now monopolize and controlled by evil corporations. Fun? Don't bet on it in the future.