I didnt sign up for this... :'c

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking management is forcing me to occasionally switch from my rm Twitter account to my Hololive one to post something. I can't stand this treatment for much longer.

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>>25145050
Qrd on her rm Twitter?

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>>25145050
the whole of EN is the most disrespectful and disgusting thing in the industry.
Much more talented people would kill for a free corpo piggyback ticket and these girls just waste it like it's nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145050
what happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145199
Check out the recent archived /nasa/ thread. There's something pretty annoying she's anounced (elsewhere) which isn't a good sign for the Sanallites, as well as being an insult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145050
i always enjoy this Sana larper split threads when they pop up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145199
I bet rm post schedule for some kind live events, despite saying Sana can't stream because her back hurt or her dog died or whatever,
Or maybe she post proof of her allegiances to West Taiwan.

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>>25145199
Besides whatever >>25145357 is referring to, she had an old schedule as her pinned tweet for like a month and all the while her roommate account was salivating over bug man gacha shit. Eventually she did a short stream where she gave the Togashi "ow my back" excuse, when she could have just informed people of that on Twitter the whole time

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145050
She’s just taking it easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145970
It was way longer than a month, more like 2-3. She's been using Twitter for years and is tech-savvy. The only explanation was she just simply never cared to login or look. The dog arc really turned her into a pitiful cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

And yet Cover gives her more outfits and support than IRyS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25146437
I love Irys but that is not Cover's fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>25146222
>April 2022
You can't make this shit up what the actual fuck. She celebrates pissing away the hololive reputation others built up over years, fuck this piece of shit seriously. I was indifferent but honestly now I just want her fired.

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>>25145180
Kill yourself, my oshi is from EN and she streams way more frequently than the average JP chuuba. Seriously if you think that EN vtubers are bad or cringe just fucking go to watch HoloJP homostars or whatever you wanna do with your pathetic and disgraceful existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25147342
Go to bed, Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25146732
Honestly, i despise people like Santa. She is just leeching from all the people who has put an effort to make Hololive bigger all this time and she barely tries despite it hasn't been even a fucking year since Council debut. Heck, even Mori who usually gets the bigger part of the hate is always doing some shit for Holo while still being active in her roomate. It's painful to think that we could've got Pomu or Seen in Hololive, not a fucking dead weight like Santa who is so fucking entitled despite being as lazy as Ayame. And yes, Ina has part of the fault here too for recommending such an unprofessional person to management just because is her friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>25147720
I'm just as angry as you are but personally I blame the people who hired her in the first place. It's their responsibility to filter this garbage out instead of selecting for nepotism.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks to not-Sana I now know how to get a hold of this coat (and who it even is in the first place!)
https://twitter.com/Korizato_orenji/status/1516950895442817024

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>>25147959
Please understand that Hololive is built on nepotism. Most of the JP girls also knew eachother and or a connection to cover before joining. This is more just a difference in culture. In japan work culture is so different that even in nepotism hires for the most part the girls actually try and work hard to accomplish things.
The nepotism isn't any different, the work culture is.

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>>25147959
Someone higher up gave the green light to give her a contract with no minimum streaming hours, whoever that was is at fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>25147720
>i despise people like Santa.
Claus yo...

[Anonymous No.]

there's no reason to hate her, just focus on things you like

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>>25147342

Typical amerifat caring more about quantity over quality.

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>>25149345
When is Sen going to stream again?

[Anonymous No.]

Just to keep things fair I decided to compare Sana's streaming hours to some other hololive girls, from Jul 25, 2021 to May 29, 2022. This puts Sana at a slight disadvantage since she debuted on August 23, 2021. Any value 30min or more will get rounded up to the next hour. This is streaming on their channel and does not count collabs on other channels or special events.

Tsukumo Sana 330 hours

Houshou Marine 228 hours

Minato Aqua 238 hours

Uruha Rushia(graduated) 349 hours

Hoshimachi Suisei 228 hours

Akai Haato 308 hours

Nakiri Ayame 67 hours

Murasaki Shion 213 hours

Ookami Mio 311 hours

Tokino Sora 341 hours

Ayunda Risu 254 hours

AZKi 44 hours

Airani Iofifteen 309 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>25150109
You people are retarded.
People don't give a fuck if you do a 12 hour stream if you're going to fuck off for 2 weeks after. That's basically what it amounts to. People would rather a 3 hour stream every day then a 1 hour stream and then nothing.

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>>25150303
12 hour stream*

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>>25150109
>Nakiri Ayame 67 hours
Jesus Christ how embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25150303

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>>25148105
The world is built on connections. It's only a problem when you hire dead weight (and keep them around). That's the difference between a good reference (good nuance) and a nepotism hire (bad nuance).
No one complains about Korone being hired because of her connections.

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>>25149345
It's unfortunate that Sana has neither of these things. At least Ayame has a cute voice and face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25150109
numberfaggots should be executed by the state

[Anonymous No.]

>>25151179
Or even better, sent to an Indonesian slum

[Anonymous No.]

gachashit ruins lives

[Anonymous No.]

>roommate is doing a sponsored Genshin stream
lol

[Anonymous No.]

The entire thread is against the rules.

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>>25150109
>Sana streams more than most
>managed to play the least amount of games
>lost permissions for Pokemon before even getting through the story
>still hasn't finished Kirby 64, one of the shortest and easiest games in the series
>trailing in subs
>no member content
how
no, seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>25151733
I'd wager most numberfags already reside in Indonesian slums.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25151733
Or even better, sent to Delaware

[Anonymous No.]

>>25151863
Roru, Romao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>25147720
shut the fuck up nijinigger sana isn't nearly as bad as mori. better to do nothing than do a lot of things wrong like fucking trash taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25151956
Complaining about not streaming isn't against the rules, retard.
>>25151994
Does she really not have any members content?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25152643
Her Members content is in a playlist visible for everyone. As in you can see what and how many streams even without being a member.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25151863
>roommate
>sponsored
it's not just fair use
you know the thing that not exist in japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>25150967
Numberfagging and nepotism rrats aside, the fact that two Council members out of five clearly have major issues with work ethic and commitment is kind of a bad look for EN management. I think EN3 will go in a different direction, mostly pro streamers who can actually be bothered to have a regular schedule at the very least.

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>>25147342
kys Fulgur

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>>25147959
The JP nepotism hires are some of their hardest workers and best earners. Koyori is literally a machine.
It's Ina's fault for recommending her, I'd be assblasted if I recommended some guy to my boss and he then lazed around and made me look like a dipshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25153187
EN3 is going to be worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25151956
So report it, you little bitch faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25153616
At this point EN managment needs to save face with Cover. One very succesful gen won't excuse two failures in a row, which is why either they're going to get their shit together or Cover is directly going to step in and take over the hiring process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25153187
Inb4 more students and part-timers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25153859
I literally don't understand this decision.
Why hire people with full time jobs that they're unwilling to put aside and people in the middle of college? And on top of that they're fucking mid at best. Literally the worst fucking hiring manager i've ever heard of.

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>>25154057
Kronii and Mumei only got in because they had over a million subs.

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>>25154057
Because they're generally the ones willing to accept terrible deals like the ones offered by Cover and other JP agencies. I don't know the exact number, but they take at the very least a 30% cut from superchats and ad revenues. If you're accepting this deal you either:
1) are broke
2) absoultely love the agency and JP idol culture
3) just don't care enough and treat it as a side gig
4) understand that a corporation like Cover might help you to reach a bigger audience and be financially rewarding in the long run, if you can actually put in some work.
The types that you described (which are basically most EN members) generally fall in categories 2 and 3, JP talents mostly in 1 and 4. It's no coincidence that you see so many poorfags in the JP branch.

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>>25154057
Because people with talent aren't likely to be living stagnant lives.

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>>25155085
>talent
>council
lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145357
how far back we talking, struggling to find it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25152643
The last member post/content was unarchived karaoke 4 months ago
Never used it to say anything about her condition

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>>25154823
Are you genuinely retarded? Even with Cover taking a 30% cut they make a fuckload of money, way more than any normal or even qualified job, plus lots of opportunities like Mori's universal contract. I doubt whatever shitty college Mumei is attending is gonna bring her more cash than this unless she's manages to snatch an upper management position in some big corporation.

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>>25156077
>Cover dies
>welp guess I'll just join IT with all my experience from coll... OH NYO
You'd be delusional to think Cover are guaranteed to survive just because they are on top. They almost ended up in Shits Creek because of the China mess, but they managed to recover from it and make new connections. (admittedly even better connections, so I guess that minor shiftest was a good thing overall even if it still causes them some issues today)

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>>25156077
You also have to add yt's cut which is another 30%. Streamers are left with about 30-40% of the SC revenue. That works if you manage to get a massive audience, but for most streamers that's kind of pitiful. Which is why this deal can be beneficial only in some cirumstances, and smaller streamers are still wagies by necessity. If you stopped to think for a second before calling me a retard, you'd realize that in most work environments giving up 60-70% of your revenue is a terrible fucking deal.

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>>25156077
>they make a fuckload of money, way more than any normal or even qualified job

Since their contracts aren't public and none of the girls have posted their tax returns, what are you basing this assumption on?

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>>25154823
Are you really suggesting EN loves JP idol culture? Holy shit, ENsharts never cease to amaze me.

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>>25156435
Didn't Coco say that 30% went to youtube right off the bat and then 50% of what's remaining went to Hololive? Should be an exact 35% barring sponsorships which I assume are also going to be 50% cut from hololive.

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>>25145180
>more talented people
Like who lmao

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>>25156457
NTA but some of us watch streams. Members have said they get about 1/3 of superchat money (unless they have a special deal like Pekora) but make more from merch. Add in YouTube ad revenue, sponsorships, memberships and their actual base contract pay. Even with just the stuff we know about they are doing well for themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>25150909
>OwO Tranii

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>>25145180
The worst part is that there's two generations of them now, any and all new generations we get are going to be pressured at the very least to be like this as well.
The likelyhood of a new generation coming out to "fix" things is 100-1, they'll just be shamed and ostracized by the other 15 girls to be a worthless lazy slut.

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>>25156618
Kiara is literally a former IRL idol, albeit a smaller one. Gura is a turbo-weeb who loves vocaloid and idolshit. Various EN members are obviously familiar with that world. And btw, I'm not an EN apologist, it just means that the EN branch attracts college weebs instead of pro streamers, which is what I was discussing with the other anon.

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>>25149583
she just streamed WWE last night wdym retard

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus Christ I just want to see those huge brown knockers again. Is that too much to ask? Fuck the kimono.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156826
Because it's so hard for western women to be worthless lazy sluts lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25151994
She only streams more than most in the sense that she kept doing endurance streams early on. She literally has had months where she didn't stream AT ALL. That's why looking at JUST stream time is retarded .

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>>25156845
Outside of Kiara the rest are larpers. Kiara is the only idol otaku. The rest are lazy xqc larping with live2d.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156648
She was probably joking, a 50% cut would be too much. A more realistic estimate would be around 30%

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>>25156826
Especially since the whole "generation" thing is no longer a thing in EN. If they were all introduced in their own vacuum like in JP then there would be a chance, they would grow close with their genmates and could motivate and grow off each other.
Imagine how depressing and unmotivating the discord is when the new hires are added? Literally no one enthusiastic about anything and everyone barely talking to each other, immediately gonna limit any hope we have of a savior generation.

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>>25156698
Like Nina but she’s a 500 view now and is inclining every month so she’ll never join

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156376
>>25156435
>>25156457
> what are you basing this assumption on?
the fact that I personally know some Twitch streamers and at 10k average CCV they are absolutely loaded, 3K viewers also pay you way more than the average white collar job and that's not counting shit like merch and all the other benefits working for a company like Cover gives them.
>what is Cover fails
They can either try to form some connections and side gigs like Mori or simply keep streaming as indies like Kson. Wasting this opportunity on some shitty college seems like the worst way to completely waste this opportunity.

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>>25156845
>instead of pro streamers
I’m pretty sure a shit ton of experienced streamers applied. Management was too retarded and pick college girls for the roles.

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>>25156919
I don't care if they're ACTUALLY a worthless lazy slut, I just want them to make good streams and actually fucking try. None of this fucking "yass queen do what you want don't let the haters keep you down" bullshit.

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>>25157087
You're in the wrong fucking community/hobby/whatever then lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157187
No, I'm in the correct community.
Most vtuber enjoyers at this point only fucking want someone who is a good streamer, has a cute avatar and voice and doesn't openly talk about their sexual exploits/bf.
Feel free to pull an Ayame and go to the nearest ally and get fucked by all the fat balding japanese business men you want, but at least make it to your 5 streams a week afterward and not bring it up.

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>>25157078
Going indie isn't a guarantee you will retain even close to the viewership you once had.
Many examples of this have happened with various companies of varying sizes that have had people leave.
Nor is it a guarantee you will be picked up by some future company.
This entire industry, streaming in general, is incredibly volatile. Hell, digital content creation in general, not just streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157333
>it's fine if you cuck me, just don't tell me about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156991
>Like Nina
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25147342
Based KFP

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157453
She isn't real to me. If no one ever finds out and it doesn't affect content it's literally the same as if she was a fucking virgin.
If something leaks though she's dropped immediately get fucked you whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156618
ever watch Bae stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157078
>Twitch streamers
Yeah, people who don't give a big chunk of their earnings away to an agency.
>3K viewers
That's actually a considerable amount, not a lot of vtubers can actually reach this number, not even in mainstream agencies. You're just considering the very top earners of vtubing, while ignoring the fact that most of them would kill to have 3k CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>To people who said "I shouldn't be on break", fuck you teehee!
>proceeds to cancel one of her original ideas that she really liked due to people taking it too seriously
>not allowed to do the telescope stream
>Pokemon permissions ran out before she could finish
>fucked up her back

[Anonymous No.]

Sana graduating would be a bless for HoloEN desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157649
Doesn’t twitch now take almost as much as YouTube and Cover combined?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157788
>a bless
Sana graduating wouldn't affect anything in any way. She has incredibly weak chemistry with both gens and doesn't even collab with Ina anymore.

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>>25156077
Buddy, if you think all chuubas make a shitload of money like Coco, Gura or Mori you're in for a bad surprise. Most of them are going to be 2views for eternity, that's just the reality of the business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157909
>She has incredibly weak chemistry with both gens
When you don't care about your job, why would you care about your co-workers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157427
Everything is volatile nowadays, I know a few people with degrees who ended up flipping burgers. Being a chuuba for Hololive is an extremely rare and valuable opportunity that very few people have, they earn a lot more than the average person and with a lot of room to transition into other entertainment careers.
>>25157649
>people who don't give a big chunk of their earnings away to an agency
also people who don't have merch and company managers doing most of the work.
>You're just considering the very top earners of vtubing
the original post was talking about Hololive, almost every single one of them except for IDs easily have more than 3K viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157788
It wouldn't change much though. All it means is that HoloEN has one less streamer. I like the streamers but there is a ton of downtime now.

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>>25145050
Pretty sure she just gave up after some initial hurdles with lower subs on top of getting culled like crazy and her holoscope idea getting poor numbers, she didn't care to fight for her channel because she have other things to do and doesn't need this streaming gig for money, that's the danger with hiring pros I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>fire everyone from EN with exception of Kiara, Ina and Fauna
>call them Gen 0
>pretends that the past never happened
>open auditions for HololiveEN Gen 1
>hire hags with a lot of free time like Koyori

And this is the beginning of a boom in popularity for the HololiveEN.
Give me credits later Omega, I know you are reading this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158111
>Ina and Fauna
What do they contribute?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157788
You can nuke Council and nothing changes. They didn't fill up empty time slots, their numbers are nothing compared to Myth..

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158154
Nepotism and making fallenshadow seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158111
Gura is probably all applicant's oshi though, and Ame likely does more behind-the-scenes stuff than every single manager put together. Losing those two would be a massive fucking hit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157799
The baseline was always 50/50 for subs but big streamers got 70/30 deals but twitch doesnt want to do them anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158154
Ina is "the girl who draw things and have both a decent amount of followers and viewers". She isn't a star but she is above average in the EN standards. She is a better version of Iofi at least.
Fauna is just my personal taste since i'm a RPGfag and she plays lots of them. Judge me.

[Anonymous No.]

What did she announce elsewhere that is looking bad for sanalites?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158310 (me)
Ina's only sin was recommending Sana. She should have just stay put on her place like always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158154
Ina can contribute merch. No idea why he listed Fauna, she's just a worse Noel.
>botched ASMR
>even worse singing

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158365
>>25151863

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158365
>back hort too much to use main twitter
>roommate twitter exploding for months
>back hort too much to stream as Sana
>starting to stream on roommate account
>maybe going to some event next month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156742
Oh, cool, you watch streams. So lets do some really simple math. Everyone likes to look at a top earner like Coco or Rushia in this industry but lets take a more modest earner like Watson. She's made 653k in superchats over the course of about 1.5 years.

So (653k x 0.35) / 1.5 = 152k in superchats per year. Oh, thats a lot you say.
Then she has to pay income tax on all that stuff, local taxes, state taxes. I don't know how superchats are taxed but we'll just treat it as income and not a bonus check for simplicity.

The US tax bracket for that income range is 24%. (86k-164k) and her effective tax rate would be around 18%.

So 152K x 18% = 27K owed in fed tax

Now lets say she's living in California, she'll get nailed for another 10% on that 152k.
So she'd owe them 15K in state tax.

152K - 27K - 15K = 110K left over. Is that good money? Yes, but it's hardly rich. Basically just middle class job at best, and really depends where you live on what your cost of living is.

For a sportsball reference, the minimum pay for an NFL player is 660K, MLB is 570K.
You can search these yourself, but the average annual pay in California is around 80k a year.

So to make the best of their pay, these girls would be best served by moving to a very low cost of living state since all they need is an internet connection to do their job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158310
>a better version of Iofi
She rivals Aki in terms of irrelevancy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158463
Who is the roommate im confused lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158520
>vacation bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>25154767
Mumei is actually using her personality and talent to do something interesting with this cursed art stuff etc. Kronii is a waste on the other hand, she doesn't even try other than by making her voice sound sexy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158520
His name is Robert Paulson.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158489
Do you really want to compare the amount of numbers ina makes, be it viewers or money though merch, with fricking Aki who took me 10 long seconds to remember who you were talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158111
>fire gura and mori
that will be a brach killer

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158004
she wouldn't be there to drag the others down during council meetings

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158604
>Do you really want to compare the amount of numbers ina makes
Sure why not. I was talking about Iofi though. You know, like the post said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158608
Just like Steven Armstrong once said, only by burning it down can a new, more powerful America be born.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158608
he's a deranged takodachi don't expect reason from him

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that she's actually going to travel while still telling the Sanallites she can't stream and needs to recover is fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156991
you mean that SJW niji male/chink fujo leech? It's like the last person we would want kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158660
Oh, that's fine then. Thought you were talking about Aki. My comparison was about "the girl who draw things". They both take this role but Ina is obviously more successful

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158716
>leaves two
Then burn all of them, you pussy. Don't play favorites.

[Anonymous No.]

What was sana PL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158237
>The numbers
You seriously are fucking mentally THE NUMBERS ill. I don't even watch em but every fucking one knows that muimei is only surpassed by Gura nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158716
Or America would die right then and there because he's just a video game character

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158785
Nevermind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158310
Saying she is better than Iofi is falling short, Ina is a professional and reliable artist who can always deliver some art without breaking a sweat. And before you call me falseflagger or whatever I fucking hate that Korean dog and i hate even more her hive mind cesspool of a fandom

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158716
And he was wrong. Shut up, /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145050
take. your. meds.
>>25145199
fat load of nothing, schizos are just schizoing because they hate her for having a tan.
>>25154823
>t-t-terrible deals!
>oh my god they take a cut of the superchats!
>ignore that cover pays their talents a salary, clearly only superchat funds count!
this isn't your shitty sub-minimum-wage job waiting tables, anon. they don't go bankrupt over getting less tips.
>>25157788
>losing a good and enjoyable-to-watch talent would be a bless
did you mean "blessing", ESL-kun? you'd still be wrong. off yourself.
>>25157970
>DUDE SHE DOESN'T CARE TRUST ME
meds. and then leads.
>>25158370
>continuing to imply that sana only got her job because of ina
meds
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>>25157938
>m-muh t-twoviews!
>context of hololive
just how retarded are you, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157909
She hardly collabed with Ina from the start despite being friends before holo, also refused to do art streams that play into her main talent... People meme about this kind of stuff but it feels like Sana is really debuffing herself on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158237
Nuke ANY member of Council for 'muh numbers', and I can guarantee you'll lose Gura in the process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159085
this response is sex. sane anon finally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159085
Sana Knight arrived and he'll execute anyone who dares criticize his oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159220
The sad thing is that she isn't even his oshi. He's just bored.

[Anonymous No.]

What is sanas rm account I've never seen it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159135
Sana is beyond redemption at this point, she is not gonna change clearly so either she will become the real EN ayame (who doesn't even know who her kouhais are) or she will graduate at some point in 2023. She seems more like a pushover and simpbux is always well received so expect the former

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159218
At least change your writing style, fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159302
@ANGELAWHITE

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157909
It would let Council do full collabs without feeling awkward about leaving Sana out. They could even bring in IRyS. and honestly they should get rid of Mumei and Kronii for their unprofessional behavior on twitter. Fauna is sort of involved and is a weak streamer, so kick her out too. and Bae is well... honestly she should focus on school.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159135
>it feels like Sana is really debuffing herself on purpose
Which is retarded because her drawing style is unique enough, people like zatsudans, and she has an interesting perspective on things due to being an oddball. But whatever, she can keep shooting herself in the foot until she bleeds out now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159341
you're shitting me write? that'd be hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159375
>Unprofessional behavior in Twitter
Kek, it's the first time I read something like that. Don't tell me that both Kroninin and Moomers have been hitting the lean lately too

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159452
yea bro its 69/10 legit frfr no cap its bussin

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159505
Not on Ollie's level but they are not so far behind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159547
In all seriousness though what is it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158111
Did you stole those from Niji strategy book?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159604
he told you bro its angela white

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159604
Man, do your reps. She's one of the easiest ENs to find and has her face plastered all over social media.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159505
airing out their drama after Fauna cucked Mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159743
I dislike both for other reasons, but how is this different from when the JPs do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159604
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159604
Dude stop being so lazy. You can LITERALLY just search on youtube for the real face and name of holomembers and it will be in the first page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159743
You're autistic as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159434
Well it does feel like she uses hololive as a hobby rather than career so she doesn't want it to feel like her job. I wouldn't say she doesn't care about the numbers though, I bet she would stream more if her sub count was higher it does feel like she just gave up on hololive/Vtubing after her initial reception wasn't so great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159872
I don't actually think this matters or that all of Council should be graduated. is jork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159743
Honestly those two have a great chemistry

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156991
>Nijinigger don't consider his own corpo as a boost
ķek

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158466
110K in superchats is pretty fucking great considering the fact that it's only one of her income sources idk what you're on about

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159604
@RAZ0RFIST

[Anonymous No.]

>>25155706

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159838
Don't listen to this anon he's lying to you
the real way to find out the holomembers is by going on xvideos

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160019
He's probably talking about the indie Nina. She streams on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

I like Sana

[Anonymous No.]

Why doesn't she do drawing livestreams? What is she doing besides retweeting that arknights shota

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160226
please andastd she had a huge project where she did two birthday skins and nothing else

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160226
Playing Genshin all day and being an art slave for chinks.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Ina a West Taiwanfag too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160294
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159302
i'll prob get banned but here, i'll spoon feed you
@DEEZ_NUTS_HA_GOTTEM

[Anonymous No.]

I don't watch her or EN, but I don't get why people are finding her shilling some popular gacha game an "offense". Plus this girl barely streams from what I've seen here, so who cares if she is still taking a break.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160294
>gacha artist
mainland taiwan has a lot of popular ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160392
prob cause its a chinese game and china is pretty anti hololive

[Anonymous No.]

God I hate Sana so much. The Ayame of EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156991
Nina is a talentless whore who relies on a shitty gimmick that appeals to pathetic mommyfags, spams collabs and hogs all the attention to stay relevant and gets dicked by the entire male branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159604
dude, these jannies has been banning me for literally posting "n" for racism reason. there is no way in fuck my ip would survive the reckoning after spoonfeeding a newfag abt rm shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160462
Hololive shills a bunch of chink games every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160462
So?
90% of HoloJP would stream Genshin or whatever chink game is popular currently if given permission.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160294
Lots of SFW artist sold their soul to the chink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160294
Did you really think she 'forgot' to draw Coco? Gacha has been her paycheck for decades.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160392
Because she's already the least consistent Holo member and the one who streams the least, her prioritizing some shitty chink gacha feels like a dick move and a complete betrayal towards her holo fans.

[Anonymous No.]

CCP sluts belong in the fucking trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160392
The "offense" is her saying she's in too much pain to stream, scheduling a gacha stream which she notoriously played for hours on her roommate account, and booking a fucking event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160535
giwtwm

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160392
Just like how some people love hardworker like Koyori, Pekora, or Coco...
some people just hate lazy lying cunts like Sana.
And unlike Ayame, she doesn't have any cuteness buff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160611
She never promised to do so
Why do nijiniggers keep bringing this up like it's some sort of crime?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160039
>110K in superchats is pretty fucking great
Maybe to welfare niggas and 2 view trannies, but it's not retire in 5 years kinda money. Most people here are under the impression these girls are rich.

>that it's only one of her income sources
Do you have additional information on how much they earn and what those additional incomes are? I'd like some actual figures, not some "I just feel they make X amount cuz I say so."

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160392
People are just mad that a HoloEN slot got wasted on "Ina's friend who never streams" instead of their favorite indie/minor corpo

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160392
>creates 1001 reasons to not work in her hololive persona
>VERY active in her roommate account

She is not taking a break. She doesn't want to work as a vtuber but at the same time wants to keep this "extra cash" called Sana around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159743
this is kayfabe for the audience they don't actually care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158466
>cherry picking the worst state in the entire country and one of the places with the highest rate of taxation in the world
epic example

[Anonymous No.]

>>25161045
This really seems like it. Sana is just easy extra money to her, she has no real love or passion for it.
At the very least she is still responsible enough to stream tho. Unlike Ayame who doesn't care about her fans or her company and peers and shamelessly logs in just to get her money and leaves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158466
>Merch doesn't exist
>Special event stream where you basically triple your SC amount doesn't exist
>Sponsor stream doesn't exist
>Member doesn't exist
>Ad revenue doesn't exist
It has been said again and again, but SC is far from their unique source of income

[Anonymous No.]

>see anons mention she started a roomate yt channel
>took less than a minute to find roomate
>isreal
at this point i can't even hate anymore. to her the whole hololive thing really is just a side gig, and as someone who has worked in gig economy shit, i cared about it just as much as her. hustler world

[Anonymous No.]

>>25161151
There are at least 8 states higher and I don't see Ame living in one of the lowest states. Using 10% is very reasonable.

>>25161440
again, you provided zero information on what they are actually taking home in pay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25153407
No kidding. Ina is probably too timid to say something, or council management doesn't care. Not like they are losing money on her at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>When you compare their rm accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>25161825
>we don't know the exact numbers so they don't exist
why are you being so willfully retarded? SC alone makes them more than the average person and we know it's just one of their income sources, sponsorships usually pay very well too and I wouldn't be surprised if memberships and merchandise double or even triple that number. They obviously aren't billionaires but they are upper middle class at worst and they just have to play vidya a few hours every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25162253
>Sana
>no schedule, irregular hours
>puts up stream, no member post, no tweets about upcoming streams until like an hour before despite retweeting fanart
>rm
>set up a channel a month ago
>made an announcement about the stream three days early
You CANNOT make this up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156893
You will get a face covering up the screen and all gameplay and you will like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156966
Why would 50% be too much? That's super generous in the idol industry. Not sure about the average cut in the vtuber industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25162508
I thought you were exaggerating but...holy shit. I wonder if someone is going to troll her chat in that stream. She deserves it and will have no one looking over her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158466
Wow nice math, did you go to retard school?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25162508
It's part of a bigger event and she's advertising for it, no shit retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25162866
Why didn't she use her Twitch account then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157788
>>25157909
>>25158004
Sana being graduated would send a message that if you are lazy and have no drive, don't apply

[Anonymous No.]

>>25161334
Why is Sanalites is like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25162779
>Sanallites replying to tweets
She's going to slip like Kiara's roommate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25162779
I'm going to ask her how her back is doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25161039
She's also lying about why she can't stream, which makes her a dishonest disgusting piece of trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160392
She's lying about why she can't stream while brazenly bragging on her RM account that she just wants to play chinkshit
It wouldn't be as big of an issue if she didn't do this all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>25162788
Yes, your mom was the teacher, we did the mating press, and now you know why you are on this earth anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163080
>I hurt my back walking my dog, but I'm happy I can catch this stream! :D

[Anonymous No.]

>>25149583
Never, she's in Corpo prison, you WILL watch the Shark.

[Anonymous No.]

Good news for the Sanallites, tho. Sana is finally going to stream. Not in the usual account however.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163154
Why do coomers always make everything about sex when they're called out? Is this why people hate incels?

[Anonymous No.]

Sana is literally the textbook case of "Thought she wanted it".

What actually ended up happening is in late 2021 she approached management saying she wanted to graduate and just go back to focusing on her art because she found streaming way more stressful than she anticipated. Since it would be a very bad look for Cover to have a talent graduate so soon, especially with Nijisanji gaining clout in the EN V-tuber sphere, they offered her a new contract. She doesn't get a salary anymore and a lower cut of her SCs and YT memberships but doesn't have a requirement on how often she streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25162921
Sana isn't lazy, she's distracted and self-aware enough to know where her priorities truly lie. There's no problem in that if you just admit you made a mistake and left as gracefully as you can. She hasn't. She keeps her memberships turned on whilst providing absolutely nothing for them, to the point where they're complaining on nearly every video's comment section about it. She keeps her SC on. She retweets Sana art as if she gives a shit when in reality it's the lowest effort way of providing content on her Sana Twitter account.

She's a disarming cunt, really. She's very cute and sweet when you watch her, it's actually quite addictive just listening to her and watching her mess around with games she enjoys and this is what the remaining Sanallites have latched on to, but you just cannot justify her behaviour anymore. It's so so bad and she needs to go with Mori. This will haunt her for a long time online if she doesn't exit as gracefully as she can. It will 100% spill into her rm shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25161825
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$176,267.00

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163129
>She's lying about why she can't stream
how do you know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25155706
You are blind

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163385
read the thread you lazy cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163385
Retards.
Just look at her rm

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163301
Good rrat I will believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163129
>brazenly bragging
What part of this is bragging?

[Anonymous No.]

>apparently has severe back pain
>instead of making a community post or tweet saying this, she decides to stay silent for more than two months
>not only that, but she would later reveal she told the rest of council to keep her condition a secret for some fucking reason
>this comes out in a really short and abrupt chat stream where it turns out she hadn't even fully recovered (and still hasn't to this day)
>also says she's been working on a time-consuming Cover project that will be shown soon
>this turns out to be the simplistic chibi mascot doodles used for two pieces of Council merch (no, she didn't do the MV)
>her back pain suddenly starts getting worse
>roommate starts a YouTube channel

[Anonymous No.]

It looks like she wants to have a whole new vtuber identity on her rm youtube?

Okay, lets give Sana the benefit of the doubt, even if she doesn't really deserve it.
>she came into hololive without having streamer experience
I think it's reasonable for someone off the street who is picked to be in a movie/tv show to get some acting classes
Sana probably thought she could do without it for awhile, but constantly comparing herself to other girls probably made her feel insecure

Making her own youtube channel to stream games "might be" her attempting to learn how to be a streamer from the ground up
I think that's probably the best thing to do, as she's most likely been dealing with imposter syndrome for the last half year
The other reason why she could be doing this is;
>the other council girls have been telling her that they blow off steam on their rm accounts/friend streams
Which is, fine? I won't say seeing kronii having fun doing rl shit with her friends doesn't juxtapose a fabricated image for her hololive stuff, but it really does seem that council had zero interest in actually growing their hololive identity outside what they are contractually/financially obligated to do

All in all, I do think cover should hold a lot of these girls to some kind of standard, because I don't want another EN gen if it's just going to be more of the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163548
She can stream, she just does it in small chunks
Don't see how her doing some sponsors genchink stream disproves that

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163385
Go to her rm twitter, her youtube is linked there.
She's lying on her hololive account.
Doesn't care anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163374
whoa anon nice numbers you got there, here are some of mine: 54, 776676, 19, 341

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163621
Sana is 100% going to graduate around September and this is just preparation for it. If any Sanallites are reading this, backup as much shit as you can. Unless you were a fan before she joined Hololive, try your best to not support her when she leaves.

[Anonymous No.]

ENsharts in shambles
Roru
>Rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163621
Anon, this isn't cake slut or devil gamble who have had channels for years.
This is a new channel she created april 11th.

Sana has a twitch, she isn't using it.
This means she specifically wants to siphon her hololive fanbase and funnel it into her NEW youtube channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163989
>This means she specifically wants to siphon her hololive fanbase and funnel it into her NEW youtube channel.
She's being sponsored to do a stream in relation to something she works on as her roommate
That's the opposite of what you're saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163891
>corpo slut
Why are you guys like this? I get liking yagoo but do you really wanna support the corp who made a generation as trash as council?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163385
>back hort, I don't know how to do Twitter spaces
>back hort, I could barely go to the nearby supermarket to get stuff
>back hort, I don't think I can stream games for long

[Anonymous No.]

>>25147720
>Ina has part of the fault here too for recommending such an unprofessional person to management just because is her friend
I mean, ina is basically the same, just less severe. They don't want to actually stream, or interact with their fans, they just wanted to talk to their oshi's personally. Gura is the same way, hell most of EN are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163989
The way you put it really feels like she is preparing for a future graduation and wants to bring in as many sanallites as she can.
Which I wouldn't be surprise to be the case.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, someone convince me to not start sending emails.
I really don't give a 2 shits about sana, I care about cover making sure next gen isn't stacked with more girls like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163888
>asks for proof of takings
>gets it
>oh cool here are some random numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145357
>>25161045
>>25162508
>>25163714
>>25163879
etc

It's obvious that she's doing it because it's part of her contract. Drawfest is sponsored by Genshin Impact. Why do you think she created a new YT account just to do the upcoming stream instead of using her existing Twitch account?

This isn't exactly irregular activity either. Sana *has* been streaming semi-regularly for the past month or so, you know, plus appearing in VC in other members' MC streams too.

And being able to tweet random shit on her roommate Twitter account somehow implies she's exaggerating about her condition?

This whole thing has been a huge nothingburger. Be better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159743
Ah so you are the guy who forces kronii to explain that shit isn't real after every minecraft stream...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164096
If she was contracted to stream at least 3 times per week as we thought, then she definitely violated her contract by now. She will be lucky if Cover doesn't sue her for damaging the brand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164185
>Be better.
Sana should take this advice

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163301
I believe this rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>Starting to set up streaming infrastructure on her roommate account just a few months before contract expires
>Clearly too demotivated to do the bare minimum as Sana and makes excuses as to why she can't
>Roommate is as chipper and active as ever
Really makes you wonder what her plan might be

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164185
This
People are posting bullshit in this thread trying to stir up drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164085
Unironically it seems that only Kiara and Mori had strong reasons to become member of HoloEN. Although of course, one is a idolfag and the other saw a good oportunity to raise in musical career, not "being a vtuber" by itself, but it's still strong wills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164185
>it's part of her contract
Meanwhile her Cover contract...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164038
Why make a new youtube channel?
She has a twitch where she can stream it.
Genshin does a lot of their partnerships on twitch.
This was specifically planned for awhile, since at least april 11th(the yt account creation date).

Why would miHoYo have Sana from hololive english make a new account on youtube in order to do sponsored streams?
This whole thing smells like thick shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164296
they didn't have "sana from hololive english" do anything
it's a sponsored stream from something she has a prior connection to
that tells you all you need to know

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164185
>Why do you think she created a new YT account just to do the upcoming stream instead of using her existing Twitch account?
Why did she make a YouTube channel when Mihoyo has plenty of people advertising on Twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164361
Cucklites, You didn't answered the question

>Why make a new youtube channel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164287

Meanwhile Cover is much more reasonable than a Chinese company about her current circumstances. Wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164362
Maybe so the stupid faggots that support her currently on youtube can easily transition when she graduates?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164414
WHo knows? Making a new Youtube channel doesn't suggest anything in any direction

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164362
Probably preparing an easy way out as coco did

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164296
>>25164362

My implication was that she doesn't want corporate-sponsored stuff to be associated with her other activities. Or Genshin wanted her to create a new account to do streaming activities on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164071
>can't sit down to play Kirby for more than 2-3 hours
>content sitting somewhere else for 2-6

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164266

Honestly, I'm sure they know this too. They just don't care and see it as an easy way to stir up drama. And people fall for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164471
Hard to believe she even has fans that would follow her out. Would she even have a graduation concert when no one gives a shit and she has no songs to sing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164478
Isn't Genshin like the absolute worst when it comes to their content creator programs?
Like they're paying absolutely fucking nothing basically and require a LOT in return.
What stupid bitch would allow chinkshin impact dictate their life for almost nothing in return.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164361
You aren't understanding.
Why would miHoYo do a sponsorship with someone with a fresh channel?

Don't give me the artist excuse.
This is a company, they aren't going to waste $2000+ in sponsorship money on a literal 2 view.
There are artists included in the promotional event that are doing it on twitch/non youtube platforms, so that narrative of yours is also dead.

So why exactly, did Sana of Hololive EN Council, get contracted to make a new youtube account on april 11th, have zero content on it for 45+ days, and then just instantly have a sponsored Genshin Impact stream?

You are being obtuse on purpose because this stinks hard, something isn't right

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164478
Genshin didn't asked her to create a new acount because it was created Apr 11, 2022, a month and half ago. Clearly playing Genshin
almost 2 months later was not the main reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164621
They are sponsoring her because she already works with them. They will funnel people onto the stream whenever she streams. She made a Youtube account for this purpose. Not very hard to understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164585
Imagine how embarrassing it would be trying to get people to come on and say what they will remember about her "legacy" and pretend they're sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164478
>she doesn't want corporate-sponsored stuff to be associated with her other activities
She had sponsored Arknights streams on there too though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164631

That doesn't mean much. Hololive YT channels are also created months before their debuts. Getting everything set up with contracts and whatnot probably takes time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164585
I'm surprised she even has fans desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164709
her legacy is a dead dog and nintendofag

[Anonymous No.]

Nice unsubtle dox thread full of underage niggers manufacturing drama out of doing nothing

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait for her Birthday stream. I just know one of you fuckers is going to post something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164818
Speaking of lazy members taking breaks to focus on chink shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164849
It will be bad enough without any intervention. Assuming she does one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164894
How about you get off 4chan and focus on your studies little Abdul
Maybe you'll grow to be a successful business man who can escape your third world authoritarian shithole

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164918
I meant this little nigger discord nigger >>25164872

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164621

She wasn't necessarily contracted to make it, but she's probably required to do a stream for them and she wanted to do it on a fresh YT account instead of her Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164918
>so angry he doesn't even reply to the right post
get off 4chan yourself anon, take 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158760
>>25160535
you idiots, not that Nina

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164979
I don't get angry telling zoomers to off themselves, it gives me pleasure to try and save the future and tell third world zoomers they're a cancer on the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158760
>>25160019
>>25160535
Retards

[Anonymous No.]

>Sana is gonna quit she hates streaming!
>Sana is gonna start streaming on her rm account actually
Aren't these narratives contradicting each other a little?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165089
She hate streaming as Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165089
First statement and second statement aren't from same schizo sources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164621

>Why would miHoYo do a sponsorship with someone with a fresh channel?

Her roommate has followers too. It doesn't really matter where she streams. Her fans will be there either way.

>So why exactly, did Sana of Hololive EN Council,

Also, Sana wasn't contracted to do anything for miHoYo. This is an important distinction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165089
Catalogue fags
1. Don't watch streams
2. Don't watch clips (barely)
3. Sit in discord/facebook groups all day
4. Also are likely /#/ ESL subhumans
5. Contradict themselves because they only speak in doxniggery and have no semblance of reality

>>25165136
Learn english

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164478
>Or Genshin wanted her to create a new account to do streaming activities on
This^, this is the fat stinky shit
Why the fuck is miYoHo having people create entirely new accounts for advertising their games?

I'm starting to think Sana might actually be a deeper, contractually obligated employee than we originally thought

Now, this is just me spitballing.
What if the only reason Sana joined cover corp, was as a miHoYo spy, so that Sana can tell them about all upcoming partnerships cover corp has with japanese game companies before they become official?
Think about it.
Sana has never specifically cared about streaming, but apparently she talks to all the girls behind the scenes enough to do collabs with a lot of the jp girls.

What if this has all been a cover, that she is a corporate spy that is feeding competitor info to miHoYo about their japanese gacha gaming competition?

[Anonymous No.]

The only one who should graduate is this pink bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165160
>Why the fuck is miYoHo having people create entirely new accounts for advertising their games?
nothing unusual about that
stop speculating about things you dont understand you stupid child

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164211
>Sana is going to be sued by Cover for not streaming!
I refuse to believe anybody could be this stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU CAN'T DO OTHER ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF HOLOLIVE
NO NO NO NO NO NO *SHITS PANTS* YOU ONLY LIVE TO SERVE ME I DONT CARE WHAT YOU DO OUTSIDE OF HOLOLIVE
STREAM FOR ME I NEED TO BE BABYSAT NOW
MOMMYYYYYYYYYY YOU DON'T DESERVE A LIVING YOU NEED TO SERVE MEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165160
or what if Sana just realized she hasn't done shit on Twitch for a whole year so she made a shiny new YouTube to attract her new Twitter followers after the gacha events

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165154
Cucklities...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165160
I believe this rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165089
>quit working at a fast food place because you hate it
>WHAT!? YOU STILL EAT FAST FOOD????!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165160
This. This is the kind of conspiracy theory we should have more of in /vt/ and not this dramabait of a thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165235
It says a lot when Sanallites come off as more pathetic than Nakiris, Deadbeats, and Fandead

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165310
Funny since all 4 of those groups of people are leagues above any subhuman dramanigger who only posts in the /vt/ catalogue

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165310
Fans reflect the streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165329
So you are saying cucks are better than incels?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165329
>leagues above
>members of all four literally post here
Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165329
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>300 posts
>89 unique IPs
Yeah tell me now this isn't some discord just having a fucking jerk off session
Get a job you fucking losers, also go learn the english language while you're at it since most of you are probably some underage SEA retards on your little holiday

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165216
>nothing unusual about a company having people make fresh accounts to advertise their game
It is when that account in question has a low amount of engagement on their artist accounts.
>>25165242
She can do exactly the same thing with advertising her twitch.
No, she made this naked account almost 2 months ago and sat on it with nothing on it until the promotional event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165391
>tell me now this isn't some discord just having a fucking jerk off session
It's okay when the generals do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145180
Tbf vtubing isn't a very respectable industry. It deserves people that exploit it. Maybe some day corp will raise their bars. Both talent and production wise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165438
So you admit this is just 10 people from some LE FORBIBBEN KNOWLEDGE discord being niggers? How does that make this any better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165160
>miHoYo spy
Sana is in the bed with Yostar, not miYoho
Her roomate youtube channel even use for profile picture the Arknights character she designed

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165391
>>25165235
>>25165154
Samefagging Cucklites

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165391
Cope you pitiful Sanallite. Go post the same low quality art in another pathetic /nasa/ thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165490
How about you go sleep in bed with an english textbook Muhammed

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165235
>YOU CAN'T DO OTHER ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF HOLOLIVE
The problem here she does not do any activity in Hololive, just outside

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165391
>Sana gets criticized
>screech about SEA and Discord raid
>Sana's fan Discords are heavily made up of them and they contribute most of her art

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163301
>especially with Nijisanji gaining clout in the EN V-tuber sphere
Nice rrat until this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165543
Catalogue doxniggers are all SEAcord faggots, you're literally just trying to draw a connection there that doesn't exist
Wow someone from SEA can not be a subhuman but also a decent person? Say it isn't so, but then there's (you) who is a subhuman who gives your own kin a shitty reputation

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165543
>Sanallites on this board
>knowing ANYTHING about what goes on with their oshi
Her valentine cards and upcoming birthday art space launch is literally made up of sea discorders

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165618
>you made me angry enough to froth at the mouth, you're from the SEA
No, Anon. That's not how it works. I could call you a worthless bugman, but we both know you're not one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165677
It's not "the SEA" if you're gonna play this game, don't slip up, pendejo, I know spics are just as dogshit on this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165618
>Catalogue doxniggers are all SEAcord faggots
>b-but these SEAcord faggots are different
Uh huh
That's some weird shit to get defensive over

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165532

>The problem here she does not do any activity in Hololive, just outside

How to tell someone doesn't actually watch Sana and only gains "knowledge" from drama threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>25145180
>waste it
My beloved shark daughter gura doesnt

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165701
Oh look, it's flustered and spinning the roulette. Tell you what, I'll make it easy and save you the trouble. I'm white. I'm better than you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25147959
>>25147720
>>25146732
Is this the same guy

[Anonymous No.]

It's a known fact that this board is infested with retards who are literally just here to shit on vtubers and cause drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165621

Considering the only one who has seen the submissions for the birthday project is the organizer, you're full of shit lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165720
Go ahead and walk up to a vtuber fan at a convention then talk like a retarded /vt/ nigger, you fags live in a bubble, even worse, you live in the /vt/ catalogue and then assume the entirety of millions of vtuber fans are just as subhuman as you

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165753
who could forget her heavy, several months long workload?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165866
>All of her projects are hidden from me so I must assume these doodles took 4 months to make
You got anymore weak in bad faith bait dude?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25162788
Please show us all the correct math. I've always wanted to see a 3rd world educated SEAbrain figure out the income tax rate for a vtuber living in California.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165823
It's a pretty safe bet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165849
>you fags live in a bubble, even worse, you live in the /vt/ catalogue
Ironic coming from someone obsessed with it and the supposed types of people who are in it
Just say you got mad because someone lumped your kind together

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164262
>One month break
>Come back
>Find it impossible to catch up with everyone now
>Decided starting over would be easier
It’s that simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165931
Who are you even talking to? Do you even know how to talk on this board you have literally 0 business even being on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165823
Who knows, but I just realized he called her Santa. Fitting considering she isn't around most of the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165827
True but there shouldnt be any drama over this. Sana was a bad hire. End of story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164282
Even funnier is that Kiara DID have an Oshi in Hololive and she grappled with her fanboying at the start. It mellowed out over the last year for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165866
I know these look simple, but I don't think you realize how hard it is to illustrate something like this, especially when factoring in manufacturing and different merch products. Physically it's easy but you need a very skilled illustrator to pull it off. One of those 'it took me 10 years to get good enough to do it in 10 minutes' kind of deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164621
Holy fuck you have some serious brain problems.
And reading problems.
Are all Sana antis this retarded? Or is this retard just a special case?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165843
>the only one who has seen the submissions for the birthday project is the organizer
...he literally provided the hashtag on twitter and submissions aren't private
not only are they on his project page, they're visible on twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165958

The only person who cares about "catching up", aka numberfagging, is you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166035
>>/vt/image/WZ0gtQDG-0uHluf7-gqVvA
This thread is a literal discord nigger raid, just look how many times this catalogue fag has sent the signal, and how many times his own thread has conveniently made it to 300 posts
>le schizo meds etc
Yeah okay, maybe next time change your OP image retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166039

What product page, exactly? Submissions were done through Google Forms. Nobody posted them on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166017
Yes and? Why did she use this as her excuse for why she was so busy?

[Anonymous No.]

The sad part is plenty of others can handle being a vtuber and whatever they do on their rm. But somehow she can't even do that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165543
at this point I'd say that the people DEFENDING her are the actual discord raid. too many chinks in this thread trying to defend her genshin sponsor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166181
Nobody plays Genshin anymore based retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166117
Many many revisions. They look so simple and quickly done because it's a pro that did it. They probably took a long time to get right. Also what >>25165906 said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166129
Its very reasonable that she just doesn't have time to be s regulat streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164266
Some retards went nuts and decided to anti HoloEN, but all they do is lie and gaslight, so they're unwittingly boosting HoloEN by inoculating the fans against shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159604
Look
“Artist for FGO NA 4th anniversary art”
Ezpz, that actually was why I followed her years ago. Was surprised to see she actually chit in Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166057
Retard it’s not just about number. By the time she come back everyone already found their niche except her. No one know what she is like or what they should talk with her about, neither does she

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166202

[Anonymous No.]

>DISCORD DISCORD DISCORD SEARAID
I wish you'd all shut the fuck up.
>BUT THE ANTIS YOU MUST BE ONE OF THEM
The reason everyone appears to be against you is because you're an easily riled up autist. You know who you are. You feed them bait to keep going. This thread has survived longer than many /nasa/ ones because you'd rather 'defend' Sana from the Discord raid on this isolated board ahe doesn't even visit than contribute to fan discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166248
Now look at who did the year prior

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166205
you have to be a falseflagger, right? nobody actually believes this, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166337
Kronii and Fauna have both said they talk with her a lot off stream especially Kronii
Based retarded numbernigger who hasn't watched a single stream in his life and recycles 2021 dogshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166202
Sana does, hahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165823
>>25165929
take your meds
I posted >>25147959 and >>25166181

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166386
>Kronii and Fauna have both said they talk with her a lot off
This
They even kept her back problems a secret per her retarded request that just confused the Sanallites

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166202
I do
Im just chillin waitin for content, saving primos for yoimiya

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160875
she's not lazy, thing is she's busy with non-holo stuff and approached it 100% as a side-gig.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166354
You're cute cataloguefag, maybe try changing your frequent images used, it's pretty sad to see your filename in these threads over and over again

[Anonymous No.]

>Kirby 64 is a 4 hour game
>Sana hasn't beat it normally yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166337
>when they don't stream they cease to exist
What did he mean by this? This in a thread talking about her activities outside of Hololive.
Watch. Streams. They talk to each other all the fucking time off-stream. They even play games with each other off-stream. This applies to the entire company. Aqua played LoL off-stream for a while and probably still does because it "fell out of fashion" in regards to streaming it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166392
>Take your meds
Listen retard, it's not unusual that people come here and false flag then pretend to be a different person and agree with themselves
It even happens on boards with IDs which is extra hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166386
Nigga the last minecraft collab was physically painful
Everyone talked over Sana and was having a fun time without including her

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166520
The day this board gets forced IDs would be a god-send.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166469
Too busy drawing gachashit

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163301
0/10 rrat why don't you retards hang out on an actual writing forum or fucking kiwifarms or some shit if you like making up drama so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166574
Man you even recycle posts from retards to, go put your skills to cleaning up the beach or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166463
>try changing your frequent images used, it's pretty sad to see your filename in these threads over and over again
Humor me, you fucking schizo. You have access to the archive. Show me all the Sana threads I've supposedly shitposted in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25159135
She is, her artist career is her money maker, hololive is just a side gig for when she wants to stream a Nintendo game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166587
they would just vpn it on a different browser

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166723
It still eliminates most of them, and that's worth it.
Don't be naive enough to think most of this site are smart, that's far from true. Just see /g/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164615
she's an artist anon and gacha shit is her main source of work.

[Anonymous No.]

It's hilarious that a chuuba who barely streams has so many fans defending her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164114
your best bet is to troon out and be the streamer you want to see

[Anonymous No.]

It's hilarious that a chuuba who barely streams has so many retards who literally manufacture drama out of thin air about her

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166877
>>25166939
Both are pathetic and neither is funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166877
>>25166939
See Delta. For both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166386
>Kronii
Kronii is guilty about her numbers and is probably trying to talk Sana up to give her a boost. She only bothered confirming she talks to Sana because Sana is trying to shipbait with her now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166984
>They care about numbers because I say so
I say you're a brown ladyboy who takes it up the ass, because I said so, so it's true

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167020
I could be for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166984
In a thread where some Anon believes the catalogue is controlled by Discord and another thinks Sana is playing 4D chess by having her roommate stream Genshin THIS has to be the dumbest post

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167070
>In a thread where some Anon believes the catalogue is controlled by Discord

>he thinks /qa/ trannycords don't literally manufacture raids on boards
Sweet summer child, it's gotten even worse this year

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166984
>Sana is trying to shipbait with her now
I've noticed that too. Sanallites eat is up as 'Auzzie bantz' and 'savage' when it's just desperation to be liked and Kronii feeling sorry for her. She needs to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167115
did you notice it too because you're replying to yourself schizo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167102
Okay dude
You keep monitoring that suspicious look at my cute wife thread in preparation for the all out war

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167148


Yeah bro, the /qa/ discords are just a myth, this dead /int/ board >>>/bant/ just looks like this because everyone is just having a goof

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166877
Same people are Aloefags probably. Someone that wasnt really around long enough to form an opinion of yet they wont shut the fuck up about how wronged she was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167195
>please play hangman with me
>My French classes just ended today
Oh man you'd better have backup because this could get messy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167230
Literally no one says Sana was wronged, in fact most people say she's just extremely unlucky. You know, people with a clear conscious

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167132

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167247
just say /vt/ is your homeboard or something tourist

[Anonymous No.]

>>25166574
You do realize that doesn't actually discount the point he made, right? Stick Ame in a collab with more than 2 people, and she'll disappear into the background, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167284
>those pixels
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167289
It's just an image board, I'm not going to have a paranoid fixation on who is making threads because I'm paranoid of some cyber coup

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167414
there's "disappear" and then there's "getting ignored'

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167102
>he replies to all threads he considers /qa/ trannycord raids thinking this will make them stop

[Anonymous No.]

400

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167474
Not really, usually they filter themselves through the few filters I've set since tourists only speak in post-2016 buzzwords like a bunch of robots

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167555
>Not really
The answer should have been no. This means you're aware you deliberately contribute to the issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25165146
so she would rather stream on a brand new account than to her hololive fans

[Anonymous No.]

I'm looking forward to the Genshin stream tonight!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164038
Then she should of done it on her Twitch channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167648
I'm here calling you a faggot, so saying "no" would've been dishonest

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167939
how do I make these scary discord people leave?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163385
>>25163621
>>25163869
>>25164055
>>25164185
>>25164266
>>25164361
>>25164534
>>25164818
>>25165089
>>25165146
>>25165216
>>25165235
>>25165484
>>25165823
>>25165929
>>25166035
>>25166202
>>25166520
>>25166625
>>25167070
>>25167132
>>25167420
newfags, lurk more
schizos, take meds
reddit fags, go back
discord tranies, kys

and specifically to the guy who is accusing people of samefagging, I know that it happens, but if you get it wrong that makes you a schizo. just stop. I genuinely believe that some of the people defending Sana here are samefagging but you don't see me pointing fingers either.

[Anonymous No.]

Based hate thread, fuck nepotism and entitled people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25168098
All me btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>25168222
lol. and nice get, btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156077
And that's not counting the VAT that takes away it's own lion's share before the money is split between Susan and Yagoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25156435
Most work environments just give you a salary, not any direct revenue. If you honestly think you can make more without joining holo then by all means, go indie.
The fact is that you WILL make more money in hololive than a random struggling indie. If you've already hit it big as a streamer then by all means keep doing what you are doing.

[Anonymous No.]

now I understand why yagoo number one criteria to be in hololive is "to like streaming and stream a lot"
these lazy whores are just too damn infuriating

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167115
Kronii made one joke about Sana's 'back hort' and Sana left like 5 minutes later. Sana can dish 'the bantz', but can't take it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25158565
>cover flopped hard
Only cucks like you like that unfunny bitch you fag
>>25168219

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164185
this bait is pasta worthy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25168734
how few (You)s did you get on that thread to need to crosspost it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25167414
Kronii is a lot closer with Mumei and Fauna. Sana became a background character after they joined and it was kind of awkward.

The best part of the mc stream was after Sana left, unsurprisingly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25168895
lol seethe and dilate you tranny cuck your whore is bad singer and you love NTR

[Anonymous No.]

>>25168939
Are you learning English entirely from /vt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25160976
Nene sold 6000-7000 sets of her original birthday merchandise, we knows this as they had numbered member cards. The sets cost 10000 yen. If we say exactly 6000, that's 60M yen revenue. Now we don't know the exact split, but let's say its between 70/30 and 50/50. So that's 30M-42M yen, or ~235k-330k USD income.
And that's one merch set. They do 2+ per year in addition to that superchat money. There's also memberships, which we have some hard numbers for (based on chat logs). Now unfortunately the currency can change for memberships, but most are going to be using yen. But even assuming half the yen price, that's another 30M yen revenue or ~10M (78k usd) for the talent. And that's only counting the members that type in chat, it could be higher.
So you have superchat money, member money, and lots of merch money adding up to at least lower-mid hundreds of thousands of USD. There are other income sources like sponsored streams, but we don't have any public numbers for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25163356
Graduation would only inflict PR demage to Cover, I bet they would begg her to stay even if she actually asked for it (possibly it already happened during the dog arc). Also it's not like you have to pay her, the only shady thing about the whole thing would be if she's lying, because excuses like "love to stream but I'm actually very sick guys" would obviously manipulate people into concernfagging and donating her more so it's shady in this context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25157453
This unironically

[Anonymous No.]

that was a fun thread bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>25169373
Honestly, yeah.
For PR it's better to have her on life support and still show up at some collabs to show she's alive than have a gen break down and lose a member.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25169510
To be fair, Council as a concept is more or less dead and buried. They don't even have their regular Council meeting collabs anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25164709
I'm sadder about Aloe leaving just because that design was so fucking good. I feel so bad for Guchico too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25169553
They probably could if Sana graduated and Kronii got on lithium