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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>>25138499
This picture perfectly catches the mood of posting about vtuber numbers with my number bros in the evening

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To anon who made this - can you post an updated version with Salome's recent stream that had 113k peak CCV?

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>>25138521
based numberbro

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You think any corpos use the graphs and charts from here in their meetings?

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Vtubers like shigure ui and chihiro are trash
Watch hagtubers instead

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>>25138575
Weekend slot power is still active

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Should "researching numberfagging methods on vt" be mandated for new vtuber companies?
Nijisanji does it and it's gaining rapid success while Cover doesn't.

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>>25138575
>ars
based

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>>25138574
I'm pretty sure Hololive and Nijisanji have their own analysts who are far more competent than local autists

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>>25138610
>pointing out Ars
Well, looks like the Gen 5 schizo is here

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>>25138574
>From here
If they're resorting to using public data, they're doing it because they're trying to glean something from data of their competitors. If that's what they're trying, then compiling their OWN data from the publicly available sources would be better.

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>>25138574
Anykara probably does it but Cover is too prideful to care.

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>>25138608
if they did that no corpo would survive the 1st month especially with /vt/ retarded hardon with brotubers

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>>25138608
they have their own numberfagging crunchers

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>>25138574
they have access to the unculled data why would they come here for some fake shit?

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>>25138629
wait what? i just pointed out ars since i just recently discovered her and im liking her a lot because of her autism streams

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don't unironically buy the "/#/ is the most influential thread" narrative

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>>25138578
>F A K E
>A
>K
>E

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>>25138608
anon NijiEN has been trying to implement the shit we talk about here and it didn't really work, turns out most of the stuff we talk about here is helpful for getting an existing audience to notice your streams but it shit for actually getting a new audiene

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>>25138674
>he wasnt here when there were time travelling anons

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MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD

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>>25138574
LMAO
Why would they use number and graph from a bunch of anonymous autist who doesn't even have access to real number of the talents channel? Some of our numbers are literally made up based on made up number

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>>25138409
I've always advocated on gentleman/high ranking lore vtubers for Cover. Please fucking do that. Literal kings and emperors lore for starsEN1. Not the kind of good looking kpop manhwa isekai MC boys, or whatever nijiEN cooks up. Just look at my boi arthur, gilgamesh and ozymandias. Get their fgo artist for EN 1, like right now.

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>Council, NijiEN, and HoloX subs get culled
>Salome's don't
The only unbotted vtuber...
I kneel...

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>>25138574
if you think this you are the most delusional poster in all of /vt/

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>>25138643
They have unculled data, but they need culled data to see if they are doing better than the competition

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>>25138657
Gen 5 schizo is the only Ars fan around that hangs out in /#/. It's not hard to put the pieces together gen 5 schizo.

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This place is not influential. This thread is boring. Go to bed, nothing is happening

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>>25138752
ID3 hasn't been culled

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>>25138762
dang i should be silent about ars then dont want to be mistaken for the schizo

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She's actually gainng (very slightly) faster than the same time yesterday, this is lunacy

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What are the chances Salome passes Gura's 1M record?

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>>25138757
>They have unculled data, but they need culled data to see if they are doing better than the competition
Why? Culled data literally doesn't matter to anyone. It's just retards on /vt/ who think it means anything.

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>>25138784
Did it beat Chloe's record to 500k

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>>25138789
80% pass - 20% doesnt

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>>25138796
yes by half a day, she is officially the fastest vtuber to 500k

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>>25138757
>but they need culled data
lmao

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>>25138824
I see, cool

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>>25138795
Because they don't have access to the unculled data of their competition.
Plus, if they have a rough idea what the culled numbers vs unculled internal numbers look like, they can (*very roughly) guesstimate (better than anyone here) what kind of numbers their competition actually have.

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>>25138762
false, i'm an ars fan and gen 5 are okay
also our gen 5 schizo is just a larper, his posting style is totally different from the original

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>>25138849
>Because they don't have access to the unculled data of their competition.
dyrbi

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>>25138575
>another powergap
And nijinigger dare say they beat holo

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>>25138806
I'm more on the 40-60 side. From 0-500k, she gets that easy in 5 days, but now it's slowing down to 50-60k subs a day by the first week. The same for Laplus and Chloe's trajectory. It'll slow down below 20k subs per day to 10k by third week, but it still gonna be a feat for niji to get 1M in like 3-4 months.

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>>25138774
They were but by ~5k.
Same with Salome, the cull was too small to notice.

Which means the YT cull bot gets to work when it's 3+ channels taking the same subs at the same time.
Was Uproar culled?

Anyway, Cover knows this already so get ready for surprise debuts in 1-2 days apart.

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>>25138833
Let's say talent from company A has 10k culled, 20k unculled. How would the company compare to company B that got 15k according to external sites (culled)? They can't just call company B and ask them for their unculled numbers
A) We got 20k unculled, so we beat them!
B) We got 20k unculled, but 10k culled, a 50% cull, so the competition must've gotten 30k unculled to get 15k culled

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>>25138892
uh oh, don't make me post yesterday's numbers

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>>25138789
Does "Nijisanji" even have 1 million active fans?

Or is she ACTUALLY doing the Gura thing where it is a much bigger outside audience than the current one.

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>>25138938
see
>>25138880

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>>25138958
>Or is she ACTUALLY doing the Gura thing where it is a much bigger outside audience than the current one.
that seems to be the common sentiment, if you ignore all the "bot/viewfarm" accusations.

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>>25138938
why would they use the autistic unculled data that we have when they have access to professionals who do this for a living

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>>25138958
yeah but no traction in the eop sphere yet as far as i can tell

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>>25138958
Even fucking Mito isn't at 1 million yet after years. Just adds more fuel to the fire of this being suspicious as shit.

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>>25138880
It is unlikely there is significant data sharing outside of "Hey, are you getting weird live numbers too?" or maybe some light amount of back and forth that goes on between rivals, hardly large swaths of data that you'd need to do a good amount of analysis.

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>>25138958
>>25138976
It's already hard for nijis to reach 1M and Kuzuha/Kanae got 1M in like 3-4 years. They've had a good run for those years, so I doubt Salome could pass Gura in 1 month. The thing about Gura was that she literally captured the global sphere. KR, TW, NA, SEA which uses Youtube often.

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>>25139053
Maybe he’s implying companies have spies working for each other, which is not impossible

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>>25139053
corporate espionage is a must if your a big company anon

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>>25138958
This thread has discussed many times the enormous army of Niji tourists, yes those fans exist but they're casual as fuck so she needs to turn as many of them as possible into diehards

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>>25138880
>>25138962
>moshi moshi? Konnichiwa Yagoo-san, Riku desu. Can you provide us the unculled viewership data from your holo 肝臓? Arigato gozaimasu
>>25138991
Where do you think the professionals get their data? From culled data because youtube only provides their analytics to the channel owner. I'm not saying they are getting them from /#/ or matome, but they probably use culled data from the sites we use, or they decided to build their own tools to compile that culled data to justify their salaries for cross company comparisons,

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Another Salome thread? u guys really love her huh

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>>25139072
yeah but now that vtubing has been a lot more mainstream in Japan compared to 2 years ago, I honestly don't know if getting to 1m in record time is such a stretch.

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>>25139116
No, quite the opposite actually

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Kobo 2k in 1min

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>>25139019
Anon, she's the most clipped Niji JP vtuber in a while, plus, have you checked the Niji reddit?
NijiEN and Luxiem debut didn't get this much overall engagement.
She's making waves at least for Niji EN fans. Not yet for the overall Vtuber EN sphere.

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>>25139083
I suppose, not hard to pay someone in a company to leak stuff secretly to a competitor. Nijisanji had good timings on most of their debuts, some scheduled in competitive weeks like ranunculus for holofest or selejo for gen 5.

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Seems like this game could be good collab or tournament game
https://youtu.be/9P0kFjQqo80

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>>25139109
That's the weird part.
Normal Niji Tourists are Japanese that watch and don't sub. Same people that watch KoreKore or jun.

As if they're scrolling through TV stations.

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>>25138574
>I'm not saying they are getting them from /#/ or matome
>You think any corpos use the graphs and charts from here in their meetings
I agree that they are getting/using culled data but they might have their own app/program for that since the sites we use arent exactly professional tier when it comes to accuracy

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>>25139139
numbers don't lie anon, even chloe/laplus slowed down passed 7k and they're the biggest thing at the time

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>>25139116
Some of us are actually /here/ for numbers. While she continues to get big numbers, she will be talked about.

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>>25139149
Salome is the key that will rope EOPs in with NijiJP

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>>25139193
>chloe/laplus
they never really broke into a new audience though, did they?

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Gura WWE 1m views

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>>25139193
700k*

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>>25139103
>>25139083
Fair enough. They're probably at a big enough size now that that's starting to be a thing, I forget about just how many people Cover has hired recently.

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>>25139149
>She's making waves at least for Niji EN fans
yeah thats a given but in the vtubing eop clips in general she hasnt made any waves yet and it might be hard if she sticks with the japanese puns since those are poison when it comes to translating it to english

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>>25139217
Maybe in the future, it's only at 595k right now, but it's definitely going to be one of her biggest VODs in recent memory.

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>>25139186
>>25139114

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Cover managment is probably studying Salome and seeing if they can replicate it.

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>>25138499
God damn you guys have either caused Vshojo and nijichangs to go full schizo mode you can't even make a post about a chuuba and mention their numbers without this general getting spam linked lmao good job

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>>25139116
She's not my favorite of the recent debuts, but she's pretty great.

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>>25139217
it'll probably be 700k after processing, might reach 1m in a week or so though

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>>25139277
I'm sure they can use bots, but they don't feel the need to

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>>25139277
If the va rrats are true it might not just be clover looking at it

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>>25139278
MOST
INFLUENTIAL

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>>25139217
thanks to migo's success of it rumao

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nyanners flopping? Why did the thread get insta deleted while nijibait threads gets free loose

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>>25139277
>studying a botted vtuber
Sure they are chief

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>>25139318
one of the meidos is a vshojo fan

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>>25139276
I'm not the first guy, I'm just replying to those who think the companies don't use culled data for cross company comparisons because they have unculled data from their talents, because they don't have access to unculled data from the competition and it would be dumb to compare unculled data with culled data from the competition

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>>25138904
>now it's slowing down
From the start of Friday's stream to 6pm (18 hours later) she gained 60k, from the start of yesterday's stream to 5pm (18 hours later) she gained 69k. She isn't slowing down at all yet

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>>25139278
MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD

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>>25139318
What thread even, about her nendroid or something no one knows about?

Of course she's flopping, I'm the Twitch tally anon and even i know next to nothing about Nyanners lately, because she doesn't fucking stream.

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>bots bots bots
go eat your pagpag before it gets cold faggot, you'll need the energy for when you spend next thread larping as a nijinigger instead

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>>25139331
>>25139318
The complain thread touched on it, this board has NO standardized moderation, so what moderation you get depends entirely on which meido happens to be awake at that hour and what kind of threads he particularly dislikes. I gurantee you that if you make that thread again in two hours it's going to stay up way longer

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>>25139395
>>25138886
I just saw it in the catalog

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Chammers doesn't care

Everyone just hinting and dancing around it

Haachama: "It's almost Hololive summer anyway"

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>>25139329
but desuwa have 2x more vod compared to miko"s 3d live

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>>25139371
This is Japan alone, if EoPs discover her, it's probably over for Cover.

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hololive summer confirmed by haachama

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From what >>25139335 said it really does look like Salome are just pulling all of the people that were fans of Chuubas at some point but got burned out.

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>>25139461
Goddamnit chammers.

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>>25139479
?? That doesn't even say anything. Do they become fans again? Unlikely. Salome's content is no different than other vtubers.

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>>25139422
>>25139329
To you (and all other "kek bots cope" anons) - explain why her chat is so slow then. The amount of comments she gets during her streams (not VODs comments) is typical for someone with 10k CCV, not 90k+

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Don't mind me just dropping this here

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>>25139549
because you had it set to top chat instead of live chat retard

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>>25139549
Anon, just do a full chat scrape (live, apparently there are some issues with archived chat scrape).
The best way to be sure is to collect the damned data and present it yourself.

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>>25139576
At the turn of the month, that should be halved again.

Gifted subs expire and Only hardcore fans would stay subbed to an inactive account.

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>>25139576
bf yabs are brutal...

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>>25139576
jesas that's brutal

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>>25139576
>-3777
ayyy what the fuck

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>>25139576
Tale as old as time. Reminder that Idol posting was always the correct choice and that unicorns were right all along.

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>>25139601
I think this also another strength of the box, if you are in the box, your members will have a bigger chance to stay and wait for your return.

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>>25139600
C'mon, you know most EN Vtuber fans outside of /here/ don't care about that.
Plus, we've seen their relationship start over the months since Mousey's subathon, no real fan was surprised.

Look lower though.
11 may was the last time she streamed.

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>>25139576
How often does she stream with her boyfriend? I wouldn't mind if she talked about him sometimes but watching them all the time would be weird.

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>>25139686
she only really streams with him on his channel, but she's kind of stopped streaming on her own channel entirely

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>>25139653
But the box can't get you to 100k each time though

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>>25139576
Do note, subs (so monthly thing like memberships), not viewership.

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>supposedly the best singer of her gen
>10k karaoke
Holox is a fucking joke lmao. Not even Mumei got it this bad.

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>>25139669
>C'mon, you know most EN Vtuber fans outside of /here/ don't care about that.
the image that spawned this comment chain proves otherwise.
Also just like on youtube you can't cancel a sub once you've paid for the entire month, you can only let it expire, so what we are actually seeing is just bought it during last month and are letting it expire this month, or to put it another way this is just the tip of the iceberg, it's going to get alot worse in a couple of weeks

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>>25139713
nothing can get you to 100k each time, Salome is an anomaly and I'm still not convinced that she isn't botted

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>>25139724
all numbers are pretty horrible right now though, don't know why

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>>25139560
vpn working again anon?

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>>25139757
Mio is singing as well

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>>25139576
>>25139643
>Idol posting
>unicorns
It’s *not* that. That bloke that sent a very well written complaint to Veibae (which she promptly made fun *on stream* with sodapopping) addressed the problem correctly
>bitch, nobody cares if you have a bf
>just keep that shit off stream

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>>25139757
>Haachama x Kanata - 11646
On Haachama's number-addled channel
>Mio and Chloe - 10k, 11k
Both are doing Karaoke, and karaoke overlaps kill each person that is overlapping
>Choco freetalk, 4k
Normal
>Roboco IB, 2.7k
Also expected

On the Nijisanji side, there's nothing unusual about their numbers from what I can tell, but I also don't follow NijiJP a ton.

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>>25139593

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>>25139724
It doesn't seem worrying for Hololive as a whole. New gens can't carry the load and old gens are taking breaks all the time.
Cover is falling into the same trap as Anykara last year, but Anykara managed to get out so I believe Cover can do it too.

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>>25139827
日本語分かりません

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>>25139707
Think they appeared together on Irnomouse's and Connor's streams more than their own this month.
Sometimes together but they're just bros in those streams.

I think it's timing too. This is not just the least she's streamed in a month, it's also the earliest she stopped streaming.
Gives people more time to cancel subscriptions, as opposed to when she stopped on the 18th in March.

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>>25139820
mio is lower than chloe? I'm surprised
mio's waiting room had more

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>>25139757
all the numbers are normal, what are you talking about? only low or mid tier members are streaming right now

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>>25139811
>Slippery slope
Those people are just trying to save face without embarrassing themselves, they true intentions are pretty obvious.

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I remember when only the top vtubers broke 5 digits

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>>25139845
>日本語分かりません
Motherfucker, why are you posting in moonrunes then?!

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>>25139438
>this board has NO standardized moderation,
thats a site wide problem though like how there was a time where storytime prunning was enforced by a global mod on /a/ and /co/ because of his autism on copyright

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>>25139855
The age of hag is over

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>>25139883
Because fuck you, that's why
Anyway, I tried my best to translate >>25139827 and it says that Salome had 21743 comments in Japanese and 559 comments in English in her chat, while that other holostream had 19318 comments in Japanese and 1295 comments in English in the chat.

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>>25139827
Why isn't Niji monetizing this shit? She could get Coco level SC.

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>>25139799
Mio is singing ballads, they seem less popular then usual stuff.

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Most Holo JP streams now passed 10k.
Runnonculus is doing pretty well at this hour.

Also, Kobo ->Sc reading, 7k.

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>>25139954
Why would they monetize a temporary vtuber who is going to be gone next month?

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>>25139945
Look at the number ABOVE 19318 or 21743, or did you think it was for decoration?

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>>25139975
Imageeeee

what
>>25139820
said about the karaoke

Haachama's kaigai viewers should still be culled pretty hard, but she did immensely well to re-establish her JP audience. Even if many will be tourists.

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>>25139945
That pic doesn't really mean anything other than niji has a lot of unique chatters. Her chat total is the same as other niji3D debuts while miko is flooded with member chat.

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Management is probably telling NijiEN to push Salome as much as possible because I've seen a few clips of NijiEN, like Elira and Pomu shilling Salome's Desuwa already.

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>>25139975
kobo first donation reading after debut vs current donation reading
the incline is real

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>>25139724
Chloe went the discount Lamy/Rushia route instead of trying to be entertaining and improve on her singing. Seriously her high pitch "singing" sounds so ungodly bad it baffles me that she still prefers it over singing in her deep sex voice. I've gotten over the fact that she was exceptionally retarded ever since the SC reading spam and moved on.

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>>25139887
It's always been a problem on this site, on the one hand you have the n/a/zis and what /jp/ used to have where mods rigidly enforced their own personal unwritten rules to preserve "board culture", so you have the minefield problem where you don't really know what the rules are until you see someone blindly stumble onto it and get blown up, and on the other hand you have /vpol/ where unless something obviously breaks the rules or US law nobody gives a shit, and the two are forever in conflict.
/vt/ has the worst of both worlds because we have a number of n/a/zi style mods trying to enforce board culture, but they aren't numerous enough to actually enforce it, and more importantly they seem to have their own vision of what board culture should be like and nobody seems to be sharing their notes, which is why you get shit like accusations of the deadbeat meido or nijimeido protecting their pet topic and as a result generate more shitposters who deliberately post about that topic just to stick it to that meido whom they perceive to abusing their power

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>>25140044
>Management is probably telling NijiEN to push Salome as much as possible
yeah but the desu wa thing is just nijien females burning another meme to the ground instead of taking advantage of it
fucking hate that branch and now their dragging salome down with that shit

[Anonymous No.]

Kobo Valorant collab with Ame next week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140044
I saw one from Elira as well. Though I don't know how effective it might be since most big translators are Holo-adjacents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139979
Free money?

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>>25140070
But she doesn't get 90k despite Indonesia having more people than Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140044
Not a fan of Salome but her desuwa does seem to be an interesting catchphrase. I'd say their shilling is unintentional and is simply out of interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25138575

Normally for nijisanji, this is very high view , most of them (about 80% member) are less than 1k view .

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140037
I thought Chihiro died

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ1HfU0z-RQ
Possible Luigold tomorrow since desuwa won't have a stream that counts for that day

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140124
And Gura doesn't get 90k despite the fact that 400 million people speak English as their first language and 1 BILLION people speak English as their second language, what's your point retard?

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>>25140044
Yeah, as opposed to all the 100s of clips Niji JP and non-Niji people talking about Salome,
Those 3 NijiEN clips show a huge push from management...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtdRbewMgoc
the JP sub clip still has the most views btw.

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>>25140174
how do you know desuwa isn't streaming tomorrow?

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>>25139277
They've fulled committed to senpai friendliness after kicking Coco out (except Haachama somehow), so I don't think they're gonna be getting the "wilder" types in new debuts anytime soon.

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>>25140124
retard

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>>25140174
>Possible Luigold tomorrow since desuwa won't have a stream
>desuwa won't have a stream

we might be getting a new schedule anytime soon anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140174
Is this the two big collabs she's planning? The one with Pekora is still waiting for her return.

[Anonymous No.]

Leona's having a live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArBr-Bx1cdU

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139278
we are the (0,0,0) of the multiverse.

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>>25140124
Vtuber is less mainstream in ID compared to JP

[Anonymous No.]

>FLopRyS
>Reaching 100k views in month.
Such a shame, it's pretty good one too. FlopRys just cant stop floping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140255
sell me this oshi anon? whats her thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140124
based on her growth, someday it could probably will
first, she need to defeat every luxiem first, then gura, then her jp senpais
after that, she could reach that level, it's possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139545
>Salome's content is no different than other vtubers.
EOP cope never ceases to be funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139252
she doesn't really need it considering kuzuha and many other jp that dont have majority overseas audience and still are extremely successful. her audience for overseas probably isn't even 5% and it doesnt matter.

[Anonymous No.]

Numbers

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>>25140160
>213 hours streamed on Twitch
>77 hours streamed on YouTube

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52563OjVB-8
Her schedule anon, today's stream is at 23:00 but Monday's is at 24:00 so counts for Tuesday's tally

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139576
I wonder if the ironmouse janny is the one that deleted this

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140315
>kuzuha
doesnt he have the apex tourist though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140098
>nijien females burning another meme to the ground
desu wa will be the next hi honey?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139043
I mean, neither is Sora. It just shows that Sora and Mito are outdated relics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140305
>topic channel
god I hate niggers like you so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140329
oh ok, Lui getting a gold will be nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140343
if they dont slow down then yeah

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>>25140307
Pff, i dunno, Towa likes her.
She plays Apex, is good at singing and looks permanent annoyed in her Live2D.
tits are big in 3D

My re:act oshii was Qu-chan.

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>>25140044
Pretty sure it's just the way their retarded branch works.
"desuwa" is just the most basic of her characteristics, so of course these twitch wannabes flanderize and reduce her into this one thing, which will obviously filter EOPs.

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>>25140324
LOL. Also: lrn2crop

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139945
>MIko 27330 comments
>Salami 22527 comments

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140236
I don't remember if it's cancelled or delayed

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140328
Some of her streams on Twitch last for 14 fucking hours
14 hours of Apex, jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140328
I dont know why but that image will never be not funny to me for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140314
NTA but it's true. She's no different than pekora. Desu wa isn't that unique unlike Peko.

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>>25140343
Outside of Salome, sure.
Outside of her first gaming stream where she almost overused it, she has found the perfect balance between using and not using desuwa.
And of course, that's not her only phrase, plenty of other stuff which appeals to JPfags.

[Anonymous No.]

haachama is about to finish, who will catch the funnel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140329
>All midnight schedule on weekdays
>One hour before midnight for weekends
Does she have another job?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140382
i'll give her a shot then since 90% of # recs have been a bullseye for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140305
That one is about as good as most of her songs but at least it's all in Japanese. They botched the release and should forget about it now that they released the MV to a better song anyway

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>>25140044
you are retarded. they are talking about it because a lot of them are nijisanji fans.
You won't hear this from Mysta, Vox and the others who dont watch JP or know shit about anything outside of EN. But Elira? Pomu? Petra? Millie? Alban? All of those watch jp members and watched her debut.

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>>25140309
>defeat every luxiem
she's done , vox can't higher view than her

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140412
mio/chloe

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>>25140423
chocosen...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140389
Miko wasn't botted while the Niji bitch was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139669
there's a big difference between a bf rrat and a bf that actively shows up on the stream and turns the content into shit

[Anonymous No.]

It's almost hilarious now that everyone is avoiding Salome stream at this point. Nijisanji is the master at creating stars, from Mito to Kuzuha and now Salome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139576
>all the retarded people thinking this is because of the boyfriend
no, dumbfucks, it's because she's not fucking streaming. most twitch subs are gifted subs, and no one is going to gift if they aren't streaming.

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>>25140444
>Nijisanji is the master at creating stars
Just because they are lucky this time doesn't mean their failure is forgotten

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140336
sure but my point is that most of the jp vtubers dont have that big of an audience overseas. Ako said on reddit that she has 30% overseas audience and idk how so maybe others more popular than her like kanae and kuzuha have more than that

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>>25140467
And why exactly do you think she isn't streaming? Don't be retarded anon.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sOOAMp4lwI
Today's gold is up

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140382
Holo already has a lot of big tits and singing.
NO APEX.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140346
Mito is one of the most popular female vtubers. Her median is over 10k. Despite slower sub growth shes not comparable to Sora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140444
3 stars compared to how many in Hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140502
Because she's moving. With her boyfriend, yes, but she's moving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139945
Other stats.

> Miko's unique chatters : 5098 (1690 unique member comments)
> Salome's unique chatters : 7543

She has less comments total because of no membership + heavy tourist numbers (most of whom won't comment).

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140444
I have literally never see Mito talked about here. How big is his/her number?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140444
>Nijisanji is the master at creating stars
>10-15 popular vtubers
>200+ shitters

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140525
>moving
dyrbi

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>>25139811
nyanners isn't the type of vtuber to put on a keyfabe persona and keep all real life strictly off stream, she's the type to talk about stuff like going on trips with family or dumb shit she did as a kid or whatever real life shit she's been up to lately

her getting a bf was never going to be a down-low thing, it would just make her streams awkward as she can't talk about anything she's actually been doing in real life

sadly that also means all her streams are now about her boyfriend

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>>25140421
>You won't hear this from Mysta, Vox and the others who dont watch JP or know shit about anything outside of EN. But Elira? Pomu? Petra? Millie? Alban? All of those watch jp members and watched her debut.
So what's the deal with people like Mysta and Vox then? Are they like Mori, just number chasers who joined not as fans but to promote their own careers?

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>>25140394
> Desu wa isn't that unique unlike Peko.
Once again, desuwa chuubas already existed (Hirasawa Mei).
Salome is much more into the roleplay, so it's a much better experience.
> inb4 schizo or w/e
point me to another ojousama chuuba that's as much involved in the roleplay as Salome, I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139252
No JP vtuber will ever blow up among EOPs again because EOPs now have plenty of EN vtubers to choose from. The reason the HoloJP blew up with EOPs is because that was before the opening of EN branches.

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>>25140421
yup. only the niji fans on nijien talk about it. the others never even mentioned her like the ones you mentioned. fuck, vox is so retarded that he called chihiro as chihiro-san instead of senpai when he was in that collab wih selen

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140536
Among those 10-15 popular vtuber only like 4-5 of them can be considered exceptional
If they have that many superstar we would see more of them in the tally

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140532
11k

[Anonymous No.]

i miss this cute retard bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140444
really?
iirc most of her streams had some Niji overlap, and zero funnels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140546
are their roommates singer also? genuinely curious since i dont know anything about their roommates activities

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140389

everyone knows and youtube can't ban , cuz it's not illegal , if you have a lot money for buy view

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140578
Get out

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140444
Nijisanji gets one break out successes and suddenly nijiniggers expect us to forget about the hundred or so forgotten chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

kobo WILL peg your male, voxsis.
and you're going to like it.

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>>25140382
Speaking of Qu chans
Kaminari Qpi - 3.5k for her singing stream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70BayjU0qvE

Peak medians since her new outfit: 3,074
Peak median April:1,895

This was the case for Beni, Hinano and Mimi too.
VSPO seems to be the most buffed by new outfits this year.

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Which VTuber has ever had a 90k+ MEDIAN after crossing the Ayame line?
Salome might be the first, assuming her viewership remains the same for the next 3 days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140575
Pretty good for a girl in Niji

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>>25140532
Mito was relevant ages ago, she's the one who made Nijisanji transition from "short pre-recorded videos" meta to "livestream" meta. Most people don't realize how important Mito was. But yeah, these days she's just a relic of the past, she usually gets like 10k CCV and she couldn't reach 1 million subscribers despite being literally the first niji chuuba.

>>25140575
>Sex
>Corporate
I keked

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>>25140635
well, she is the most watched girl in niji so yeah I'd say so

[Anonymous No.]

is there anyone gonna make a niji's number comparison chart without Salome to see rest of the niji livers are inclining or stay the same after Salome's debut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140532
> board full of EOPs
> watching a JP-humor oriented chuuba
what did you expect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140532
Nowadays IIRC she gets 7-10k on average? But she has legendary status among VTubers in JP due to her influence (particularly in her earlier days) in the industry.

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>>25140546
They do like NijiEN ofc but they are in there to be vtubers. They dont really care about other branches and don't interact much.
The ones in NijiEN that are Nijisanji fans are Elira, Pomu, Rosemi, Selen, Petra, Reimu, Enna, Millie, Shu, Ike, Luca, Fulgur and Alban. Some of those are also holo fans, some are only niji fans, but all of those I mentioned are fans of other branches. The others aren't really fans and are more in there for nijien itself I would say.

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>>25140609
Nijisanji gets one success in the newest addition. Hololive doesn't have any from Gen 5 onwards, remember that.
Salome takes over the entire streaming sphere, none of HoloX can. It's almost like idol stuff is not exactly good after all.

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>>25140625
Not even XQC can compete

[Anonymous No.]

Surprised about Haachama here. Collab or not she struggled for months to beat 10k with all sorts of strats.
JP nikis coming home?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140575
>Maru Nanamona

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140324
Why isn't there a big league vtuber streamer yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140603
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140674
too early to say

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140546
That's all of them. Some of them watched clips after joining and now pretend to be fans to get some of the perks, see >>25140663

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140688
because vtubing is still a niche thing in the bigger picture

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140641
Mito still is relevant. She's the most popular girl in Nijisanji, most popular non-holo girl in Japan, etc. I would agree with you if she was like Honhima who was a 8k-6k vtuber but since last year is a 2k vtuber. but thats not the case.

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>>25140688
Kuzuha but he spams other games too

[Anonymous No.]

Salome 550k, will she achieve 600k today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140416
Not this stream though, it's apparently just a concert chat streamed aside the Live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140578
stay desuwa

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140601
Someday you'll know English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140682
she's the one that turned down the offer from the other corpos because sony promised her full support right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140712
Isn't Lize more popular than Mito now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140682
for me its Kashi Otoha

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140669

[Anonymous No.]

Do people here genuinely think Salome is viewbotted or are they just taking the piss? I know we have an influx of low-IQ kobokers from facebook but I'm hoping it's not that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140688
There's Tyler1, he is easily the most well known League streamer around
But streamers avoid MOBA game for a reason, they make everyone toxic. Even XQC moved away from Overwatch eventually

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140705
That's not really all of them desu. When you look at their past lives, the ones I mentioned have been talking about nijisanji for years. Except for Selen, Enna, Alban and Millie who became fans after being accepted and began watching streams, clips and related things. But then there's Vox, Mysta, Finana, Nina and the rest who clearly don't watch and know much or anything. Not like there's obligation after all, not always youll find fans into agencies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140646
some are probably inclining.
I really can't tell

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140382
>>25140617

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140754
Depends on the month. Mito and Lize alternate between first and second in ccv iirc but for the first 5 months, Mito is more popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140689

You talk solo debut niji ??? , u know 80% of them have avg 20-500 viewer / stream

Who do you remember? in niji ?? Kazuha salome Kanae Mito Hoshikawa Fuwa luxiem noctyx ??

Why you don't talk about

Yaguruma Rine
So Nagi
Seffyna
Ban Hada
Layla Alstroemeria
Nara Haramaung
Reza AvanlunaReza
Azura Cecillia
Riksa Dhirendra
Etna Crimson
Akira Ray
Rai Galilei
Ha Yun
Oh Jiyu
Derem Kado
Xia Ekavira
Nagisa Arcinia
Gaon
ETC < 100 name

They gona die

Mel has 4k+ view / steam
Roboco has 3k+ / steam and least in holomemjp


But that lot when you compared with Honma Himawari she is top 10 in all nijisanji(JP EN ID KR) and she has 1k view / live stream

Save it for reply nijisanji :P

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140546
Mysta is a number chaser but Vox is an attention seeker. It literally makes him hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140772
some are dont think so while others are cautious and there are some that think that there might be shenanigans but the majority of the posts whether its pro or anti salome/niji/holo are shitposts from schizos wanting yous

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140646
it's a bit early no? I think only after collabs this should be something to be seen. There's pretty much nothing from other nijisanji members in her channel, as it is in most cases anyway, and nothing in her profile shows shes part of nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140811
lol ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140646
I can't be fucking bothered to follow ALL of Niji talents. Maybe when they graduate more talents to make my job easier

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140811
Holocope

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140558
>roleplay
It's only been like 5 days, koyori and laplus had been keeping their act far longer than her. Roleplay does shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140782
>Vox, Mysta, Nina
3 huge numberfags, makes sense
and then you have Finana with her mobile game streams...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140855
are you the median chart anon? could you just follow the top 10 nijis then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140542
>nyanners isn't the type of vtuber to put on a keyfabe persona and keep all real life strictly off stream
Which is something that baffles me to no end: most twitch streamers are like that (and it’s a valid strat as any other) so
>why the fuck Vshojo invested all that money in foundational lore for their redebuts?

It makes no sense, everybody sees Nyanners as Natasha (or whatever her name is), why invest in lore this late in the game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140811
I'm a niji fag, but if I had to name every single niji chuuba I would commit sewerslide. Most of them are literal nobodies, and Nijisanji seems to think that "carpet bomb the market" is a viable strategy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140646
from the graph some anon posted yesterday the increase was small enough that it might be an error range

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140646
It’s too early for it to be felt

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140811
LOL

This thread is over

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2RKbXITgI
>Kinako talking about how fun Salome's streams are
I guess Anycolor paid CR too...
Shameless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140646
Im not the main chart anon but i would like to do a chart comparison but they just have to many vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140888
to be fair, even on youtube for most vtubers lore is just something their refer to once every three streams and primarily use as fanart bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140893
to be fair, carpet bombing didn't work until it worked and they won the lottery with desuwa, I'm sure her median will settle but she'll still be a vtuber xqc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140928
My daughter Luna is literally a princess tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140772
All speculation in the end. Numbers are just weird and the company has a motive. Other than that, no hard evidence and shitposters uses it as bait. There's a chance that actual nijiworkers are astroturfing and deflecting viewfarm posts since numbers were okay in march but starting april, the numbers got too suspicious and only nijis has the worm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140811

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140878
Nah but I did think of trying my hand with it
Until I realize how many fucking Niji there are and most of their number are not worth mentioning

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140811

Yaguruma Rine
So Nagi
Seffyna
Ban Hada
Layla Alstroemeria
Nara Haramaung
Reza AvanlunaReza
Azura Cecillia
Riksa Dhirendra
Etna Crimson
Akira Ray
Rai Galilei
Ha Yun
Oh Jiyu
Derem Kado
Xia Ekavira
Nagisa Arcinia Gaon

WHO WHO WHO ??? and WHO ???

[Anonymous No.]

Numbers prediction?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mEJh8DBgTE

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140688
You would need a master or pro level player at lol
Those are mostly awkward autistic koreans and people who have no communicational skills

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140795
Oh yeah, RPR's debut was today. Weird hour.
Shouldn't be long for dtto too, if she feels she needs it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140920
I mean she can keep her ccv number around 90k in her every single stream.
that should at least bring some change to other niji livers's number though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140976
30k

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140772
To me, all number are legit until proven otherwise, with concrete evidences

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140976
40K

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140772
Her stream graph in her last stream was a bit erratic but other than that I don't believe she is being viewbotted.

Besides, she is really popular in JP spaces: just look at the numbers on her account and fanart on Twitter. Coupled with the fact that Niji is tourist central then it wouldn't be farfetched to say that we are really witnessing the birth of a superstar.

Although, just like other anons, I am still suspicious of her numbers due to the circumstances surrounding her debut and her anomalous growth. I recognize that this also comes from my lack of understanding of the Japanese language, hence I refuse to further make conclusions unless we gather more data from here future streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140928
I agree but VShojo is some 24 months old at the latest debut, creating foundational lore now serves no purpose.

It might have to do with their new gen tho, maybe they’re setting the field for them to have it from the start

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140976
Less than 90k

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140976
30-35k

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140979
Selen used to be in the top 500 in Overwatch, and the in Apex too, but she said that she doesn't want to be a competitive player anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140776
from my experience the fps scene was always more toxic than the moba scene and yet there are a lot of streamers in the fps genre

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140980
I wonder if the Twitch tally anon will count him

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141014
at least in nyanners' case the "secret eldritch being disguised as a catgirl" thing has been there from the start though, i don't know about the others

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140976
probably 30k
too many singing streams today and she is overlapping with Ayame

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140811
Stop replying to obvious bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141023
I've played both fps and moba and they're both incredibly toxic, the reason why fps streamers are more popular is just because there's a lot more people who are good at fps compared to being good at mobas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141021
>memewatch
Nobody really gives a fuck about that game, which would explain how a woman managed to get into the top 500

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141023
My point still stand, it make people toxic
Also a lot of big streamer only stream fps occasionally. Now making it 80% of your content, that is different

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139217

>Gets 30K live
>Almost immiedatley at 500K

Yeah fuck you Susan

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140811
just post this chart next time, there's a lot of nijis in the 3view tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140772
I don't think she is viewbotted or something similar but I believe that Anycolor debuted her because they try to get good attention from the public before IPO

[Anonymous No.]

So does anyone believe Salome's numbers are legitimate? With how easy botting is on youtube? that small company girl a few weeks back was botted by 40K. I think there is some hype behind salome but no way she had a legitimate 113K viewers on her Biohazard stream. there are at least 20-40K bots on her streams. It's so obvious.
nijisanji IPO comming soon btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140811
At least update the copypasta
So Nagi > 505
Seffyna > 588

Btw, pff.
>Nijisanji 40,250,300 subscribers
Did Salome actually add more subs to the Niji whole than NijiKR did when it got added? (sans Bora)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140976

> 15K if more than 15K , u can cut my head

[Anonymous No.]

Oh shit choco just said that she might take a break from streaming cause she's getting married
with me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141053
>4chanel
>not replying to bait since inception.
KUSA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141043
>overlapping with Ayame
i don't think nakirigumis and ichimis overlap much

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141079
All proofs so far point toward it being legit. Even the VOD number check out
So I believe it is legit, no one have been able to prove otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141043
isnt that a member only stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141108
if someone bots ccv what's stopping them from botting vod?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141004
That's a sane take, but say it in 4 hours and you'll get 10 different shitposting assfaggots on you for daring to suggest a measured approach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141122
anon, click on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141136
i meant the ayame stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140185
wow elira's voice sounds really bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141037
yeah, debuts get counted even if from non vtubers.

If he goes back to facecam or no model for x number of shreams, then he's out, like Natsumii and Bahooey and "maybe" only vtuber streams count.
Most Twitch streams would fall under "convert" according to /here/ anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-hgfjVN7BM

[Anonymous No.]

did miko really catch everything haachama spilled out after she was done?
none of the other streams inclined

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140976
Less than Salome

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141075
I wish there was someone autistic enough to make a similar chart, but count every single stream since the beginning of times, since Sora's and Mito's debut
Btw, are you that anon who made picrel? can you update it to include Salome's recent stream, the one with 113k peak CCV?

[Anonymous No.]

It's coincidental that vtuber reigns always last two years
Kizuna Ai: 16-18
Nijisanji: 18-20
Hololive: 20-22
Nijisanji: 2022-now

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141130
Like I said
No one can prove the VOD view are botted yet so for now it is legit in my eyes
Is there even a way to prove VOD views are legit or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141147
Chat is member's only due to her getting harassment in chat in yesterday's stream (apparently).
The stream itself will be public.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139576
She really fell off

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141130
I guess all the fanart she's getting is AI-generated, too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141130
Stupid reasoning

>>25141108
Viewer churn. Need the numbers after processing, not hours after it. Those are not stream watchers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140893
I can name every single one of them except for VirtuaReal. doesnt mean i watch all but at this point i had contact with all of them from collabs even between the ones i dont follow

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141147
>Sponsored
Use your brain anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141179
Only Youtube can decide. If youtube thinks its funky, it'll toss em out, otherwise you'll just need to accept that if viewfarms are good enough to count as legit viewers, there's nothing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141170
who cares? she's botted anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141004
I believe she can be Pekora level streamer or even much better but I don't believe she is 100k viewers level stream so I can see recline sooner or later

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140776
The thing about MOBAs/LoL is that the audience will expect the streamer to play that same game for 10h+ every day. And they need to be at pro level to keep the audience, or be a literal clown like tyler1
There's also an oversaturation of LoL streamers, mostly pros, former pros or high mastery champion mains

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141175
Nijisanji still has 0 monthly gold this year, even cripple gold (maybe this month)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141175
I got my money on Isegye releasing a rock group for their 1 year anniversary and their 3D group live passing 100k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141004
I could see her staying in the 20-30k area especially if she can keep up the kayfabe and also if she is not fed to the luxiem group

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141175
I agree anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141219
A lot of Twitch streamer are former pros
XQC was a pro as well. The meta have always been go pro > join big tournament > cultivate your own fanbase > become streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141203
cope
every sing directs towards obvious botting. only little brown men would deny it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140811
jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141271
post hand

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141205
I mean, I watch some of the more obscure nijis, like Hyona, she gives off cool aunty vibes without being annoying like Nina. I also like Levi Elipha because of her weird voice that sounds like she's a 12 yo loli and a 40 yo smoker simultaneously, her singing is cute. But I still sometimes stumble across nijis whom I don't recognize

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141202
she doesn't even get that much fanart that's the thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141175
This thread is shitty because of faggots like you

[Anonymous No.]

Chloe had a new cover released btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI8TNKPuk3w

Same song Lui coverd 2 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t60NWXXkQI

... have there really been no HoloX duets or group songs outside of Ochame Kinou?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141302
Yes...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141202
I'll say it again

Aside from that one piece that has like 200k likes, pretty much all of her fanart has less likes than the usual Gura fanart.

[Anonymous No.]

/vt/ should have flags. Sora has a monthly median of 9.4k btw. Birthday was huge for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141004
I think she's going to be a 100k/90k vtuber for at least this month and then stabilize at maybe 30k-20k. I would be surprised if she stabilizes higher than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140688
MOBAs only attract MOBA audience.
With most other games, if you explain the concept well enough, your audience can follow along.
But MOBAs need like 100+ hours of knowledge to even have a BASIC idea of wtf is going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141169
I'm not that chart anon, but I could copy that one and add in Salome if chart anon is away

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141246
fed to the luxiem group? wdym? They barely have any contact with JP outside of Shu and Ike.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140893
holofags ITT can usually name more nijis than actual nijifags somehow

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141327
Considering previous Niji debut buffs, that seems to be the timeline.
Then again, not a single recent debut has had the upward trajectory she's had.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140772
Some EOPs are apparently serious about it and breaking containment with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141346
it might just be the schizo in me but im afraid those numberfaggots might try to drag her to collabs in order to leech

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141179
no evidence, no point. Anykara could artificially engineer their numbers and people wouldn't know. They're also affliated to bili2, that's been known to have underground viewfarm services/facilities. Nowadays, you can pay for likes/subs/views etc on tiktok/twitter/youtube.

>>25141202
I've seen more holox fanarts than her in the first week. She also gets boosted by topics such as "popular images" that keeps popping on my twitter, I don't even follow that topic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141004
Based take, being suspicious is natural considering the closeness of the IPO, but her numbers so far haven't showed any particularly bot-like anomalies just yet.
VODs are all 1M as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Kuzuha no1 , go to hell salome

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141079
Current info. seems to point towards her numbers being legit. In particular, this is supported by:
>relatively smooth stream graphs (commonly assumed evidence for viewbotting by folks here)
>past observations on Niji debuts/events (it is common for special Niji events to blow up, but this is the first time a debut got this amount of sustained hype)
>Twitter data (she has a lot of engagements in her account and has a ton of fanarts, some of which are garnering over 100k likes)
Just like you anon, I also find it hard to believe that Salome's situation is purely due to sheer luck and talent. And it is also easy to believe that things are getting weird due to the IPO thing. But without hard evidence, we cannot reasonably conclude her numbers are legitimate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141388
>but her numbers so far haven't showed any particularly bot-like anomalies just yet
Did you miss the graph from yesterday?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141393
Dont worry anon king will regain his rightful place again someday

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140862
Laplus broke character on her fucking debut dude, she was bullied by chat with YMD and Yamada almost immediately, are you a newfag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141409
that graph is unusual but not as weird as Luxiem graphs and could still be explained by connection issues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141366
Ah yes, that entire comment chain got nuked from orbit and is now [deleted] except for one or two posts that are funny now that the rest of the context is gone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141108
VOD can be botted as well (or view farm or whatever you like to call it)
one of the hot topics by the nips at matome earlier this month was that one of Subaru's old VOD goes from like 200k to 500k views in a day for no reason
someone was probably using her as test subject

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140772
I'm pretty sure it's just the one flipnigger artificially building a consensus so the retards here give him more (You)s when he larps as a Niji fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141381
If her number was botted with this big of a scale then Youtube AI would already picked something up. It's 60k bot at least assuming her "real" number are on par with HoloX debut
We already see how strongly Youtube AI reacted to small amount of sus number, it won't let that many bots slide

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141419
that's part of her character

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141419
Her being a bullied/bully kusogaki is part of her character anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141418

KING

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140928
I don't think it's purely because of the lore, although her in-depth ojousama impressions are top seiyuu-tier (which is probably why a lot of people think she was a hired VA).
She's also naturally entertaining, all the while including her ojousama "lore" so to speak. She's made it pretty clear that she's a normal girl trying to become an ojousama, but her perfect roleplay kinda makes people think she already IS one, but at the same time her clumsy side also allows her to mess up without much of the audience leaving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140646
Too early.
And Kuzuha had a similar incline back when he came into the scene, it did absolutely nothing for anyone else (other than maybe those he collabed with).

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141463
Why are you still here? Nobody likes you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140923
She's an absolute treasure for JPfags, it's fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

just a heads up for anons
the flip schizo might come back here around 8-10pm JST along with some new friends he found on another group so be on the lookout

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140558
>> Original

https://youtu.be/XnhTp3qbG7Q

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140923
>Kinako
Literally who?
>CR
Literally who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141494
we should have /#/ in /bant/

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140923
monstrous

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141487
Just another reason why JP fags and their associates should have been bullied out of this thread. JOPs have shit taste in entertainment as if you couldn't already tell from those popular variety shows that are absolute trash.

[Anonymous No.]

If Salome is legit and all future Nijis hit 75k+ ccv are we gonna become a Niji board?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141023
The FPS scene is not more toxic than the moba scene unless you're playing overwatch, which has the same issue most mobas have where the entire team needs to work together as a unit in order to do anything and as such it's extremely easy to blame any failures on someone else

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRzvQuVpa0
CocoTsuki's last live

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141079
>hat small company girl a few weeks back was botted by 40k
and her VODs are now 12k or something.
While Salome's VODs are all over 1M.
Cope more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141494
Pretty sure he's already here pushing the bot shit to make people even more mad when he spams shit about Holo dying later

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141130
Burden of proof.
If you're saying it's THAT easy to bot someone, then all the Holo numbers also become suspect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141175
Sorry, 2022 is the year of sony

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141513
If that happens Hololive will shift focus to EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141527
who the fuck is cocotsuki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141513
>all future Nijis hit 75k+ ccv
that would be unbelievable and the board would probably implode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141496

DESUWAAAAA~

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141203
>Need the numbers after processing
I've got numbers for her EU truck stream for about the first 12 or so hours (only missing the initial 1.5 hr mark).
Looks legit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141513
That’s a big if

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141513
>all future Nijis hit 75k+ ccv
Anon, you don't believe it even for a second and we both know it, here's your (You), now go make a better bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141513
Even if Salome had 100k ccv for a year, she's still only 1 streamer and her audience would be autistic jpfags who stick to their split. They'd be more likely to get into fights with NijiEN if the HoloEN/HoloJP relationship on here is any indication.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141401
>But without hard evidence, we cannot reasonably conclude her numbers are legitimate.
*illegitimate you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141565
part of upd8 same group as kizuna

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141295
Have you tried actually looking at Pixiv or Twitter to find an estimate number of fanart, though?

>>25141381
>I've seen more holox fanarts than her in the first week.
I take it that you might be a hololive fan. Have you not considered that the app/site you are using is already curated to your tastes, hence why you got more holox fanart than Salome's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141175
One monster won't be enough to push Nijisanji as a whole forward.
She's not on Coco's level yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141565
A group of two vsinger, Cocone and Kasane. Well the group will disband today anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141534
its a different person since he hasnt gone home yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141409
I was literally watching the stream and several chat comments mentioned heavy lag, after which she herself referenced it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141636
Hey having the biggest Vtuber benefit your company a lot. They don’t have to push other talents
Just the line “We own the biggest Vtuber on the market” would make every sponsor drool

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141479
You liked the post enough to reply, so thanks :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141636
honestly it could be though, having a monster of that level is enough to say that you dominate the market. Lots of media/entertainment companies focus on having one huge breakout success because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141494
> 10 more minutes of peace
I'll take it

Anons, remember to do your
> spamming/flooding
reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141653
wonder what they will do with the channel
will the remaining one still use it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141452
Anons, viewfarm=/=bots. I could have a new cheap phone watching one stream with no account on it and it'll count as 1 view since it's 1 device. 1000 cheap phones are 1000 views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141039
Not the point, the point is the tie in with >>25140542, what good is creating such an elaborate lore for the streamer to fall immediately out of it by reverting to Natasha, the boyfriend having shopping going regular ass girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141509

[Anonymous No.]

shit i thought ayame gonna stream some game
but yeah, sponsored game lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141169
>>25141344
I’ll update both later today

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141707
Kasane will go indie so no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141513
Not enough EOP nijifans.
I'm still firmly on the holo camp despite watching her, Salome has not magically made the other nijis any more appealing than they already were.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141336
MOBA streamers also only enjoy MOBA. Look at Ayame, she spams LoL when she's not streaming and never shows real interest in other games

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141634
I browse the hashtags

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141625
Oops yeah, thanks for correcting me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141673
From the sponsor perspective, sure.
But unlike Cover, they can't exactly bait the sponsors with her and then give it to Hajime or something.
If they actually do that it could unironically tank her numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141513
Im a nijifag and I doubt they will be able to replicate that, at least until a while. Salome is a unique vtuber, those dont appear all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

so what is today gold /#/ bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141452
>Youtube AI
dude just look at the ranking list of scam sites
it can't catch everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141791
desuwa obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141791
Salami

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141791
Desuwa, there is no other contestant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141705
is pic related going to make a comeback then?

[Anonymous No.]

lamo, the japs now measure holo stream with Salome unit.
one Salome unit = 100k
brutal
wwwwww

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141791
everyday is default Salome unless theres holo graduation or Salome isn't streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141823
maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141710
If the phones are all from approximately the same geographical location, or from the same local Internet node, it's very easy to check with their database and flag it as a viewfarm.
I mean some random Shengchan village's internet node isn't going to suddenly have 70,000 people watching some new JP VTuber without raising the eyebrows of the bot running Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141823
No unless the whole Nijisanji incline

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141636
Unless all these new viewers don't accidentally end up at Hololive after, like they did with Lulu and Ange in 2020, then it might begin a small domino effect.

Expecting NijiEN to benefit the most, Elira and Petra should have their collabs lined up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141836
kek, poor king, being demoted from 2 skewers to 0.2 salomes

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141823
That's just asking for Karma to strike them down twice as hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141836
what about niji stream with Salome unit.
just curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141823
Nijisanji's official website is numberfagging hard even without it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141887
oof any collab she does will TANK her numbers.
Her viewers are pure tourists and there for only her.
I hope she goes at least 2 weeks with Solo streams before deciding to collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141906
More like karma for Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

What's the biggest ever Nijisanji Collab? Have they ever had one with more than 100 livers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141823
Most likely, they got more total subs and their views rprobably surpassed hololive's thanks to all those accelerate debuts + salome

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140324
Can jap have decent ping for ko league server? It is even ok if they play there? The jap server is small and useless, japs do not play league.

But for the korea one you need to be REALLY good, good luck finding a wannabechuuba with the skills

EuW server is the most populated, but then you have the timezone problem
I guess a girl wannabeproleague for the usa is the best chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141513
it took 5 years for them to have another sensation after mito, it will probably take them another 5 years to find another salome

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141823
>Melissa
>Lulu
>Warabe
>Roa
+Gil and Ghost girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141922
>nijien all luxiem
lazulig bros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141924
believe, she will get special treatment as they will careful plan her partner. Probadly with pair with Lize for a unit

[Anonymous No.]

Salome should collab with vox, this board would explode

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141927
I don't see Cover parading around something as utterly arrogant as >>25141823 on their public website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141924
Just like 2020 Gura!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142008
en had collab right after their debut anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142008
who

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141936
nju had 58 livers
gathering all 104 of them is impossible because there are people who literally never show up like kataribe

[Anonymous No.]

I'm honestly surprised nobody here seems to have picked up on Aruran's attempts to replicate Roberu's success by replicating his talk host thing, and also streaming insane hours and imitating Coco's meme review back in the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141791
Today it will be Salome, tomorrow she doesn't have a stream that will enter the tally unless she starts early (which only happened the first day and by mistake)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140124
What a retarded take. I don't remember seeing non Indonesian singing Dangdut music and getting 200M views like Indonesian did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141908
Kuzuha is 0.2 Salome. The other is less than 0.1 Salome. Ridonkulous is about 0.02 Salome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142026
I mean in how we were seeing her numbers drop in collab streams.

and game streams for that matter.
Viewers just wanted to hang out and chat with Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>Mori Bae IRyS
>MorBaeRyS
>Morbius

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140124
I wonder why NijiIN didn't one ONE BILLION viewers watching...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141944
Kuzuha plays on JP server and doesn't seem to have any problems with matchmaking. The server is not as big but they do have a grass roots scene that does fine.

[Anonymous No.]

I find it funny how
> subs
used to be completely disregarded during discussions until a few months back since Holo pretty much dominated those stats.
It's nice to see some competition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142002
Doesnt matter what cover does on their website, they get the fans to do it for them. It's part of the business strategy and then they can just point at it and pretend it's all organic

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141908
holoshin totally gave up and doesn't fight back lol
they don't care about other niji and have a field day with holofags kek

[Anonymous No.]

Seeing this place talk about bots and viewfarming reminds me of Sajaegi
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/21/808049441/inside-sajaegi-k-pops-open-secret

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142103
as always things don't get talked about if they make nijisanji look bad, but the moment it makes nijisanji look good suddenly it's all nijiniggers can talk about

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141868
Which company would even put 70k phones in one place? Of course they would have other locations. At most, there are 1-2k phones in one office, that's where you get your usual luxiem numbers (business). The YT AI won't notice 1-2k phones watching the same stream in a big city or a moderately sized city in china. 2 million users watched a vietnam football match like a few weeks ago doesn't mean that they're going to flag them all. I'd assume they operate and communicate the same way indian scammers do, if they have a big catch, they'll share the wealth among others facilities or just pay ordinary people to watch a stream. People gets paid cents by clicking on 30 second ads nowadays. I don't think it's impossible if it's china.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142136
just like holokeks then

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142156
>Which company would even put 70k phones in one place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142028
>kataribe
>last stream 3 years ago
>still is officially considered a member of Nijisanji, no statements regarding graduation or anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142117
enjoy your niji livers with 0.02 Salome then kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142103
>>25142136
The opposite actually, numbers only get pushed here if they make Hololive look good and any number that makes Nijisanji look good is instantly dismissed as botted, fake, or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

Kobo already passed AZKi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142002
I think most commercial product do that.
You can ask about my toothpaste - 9 out of 10 dentists approved it, its literally NUMBER ONE toothpaste product

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142107
> fan content
made me check whether those old Asascoco websites were still up.

https://store.asacoco.moe/

The store is still alive, but the University website is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140124
Really anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142200
except if that was true people would've been talking about subs non stop since it's still the only metric where hololive dominates without question but "dead subs" is a common nijicope

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142186
That big of a platform can only hold 100 phones at most with one person operating. 10 of that could fit a small office.

[Anonymous No.]

>only a few of them are eating good.
>the rest of them starve to death.
niji looks like China to me.

[Anonymous No.]

So at this very moment Gura’s WWE vod is getting around 4-5k views an hour. This typically does increase over time from what I’ve seen but if it keeps up a 4k/hr pace, and we see no knockoffs from youtube or extra chunks of verified views pour in, and only take into account the hourly views, she will be hitting close to 670k views in 24 hours time. This could possibly be less, this could possibly be more. Given enough traction there’s absolutely a world in which she could hit close to 700k in the full 24 hours of processing.
It’s important to note that Miko’s WWE streams actually do have high levels of replays/people watching the VODs. I know many see 800-900k but truthfully, the VODs usually ended up around 700-770k after a day of processing. So it’s going to be really damn interesting to see where this VOD ends up even within a couple days time. This screams 800k+ to me right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142278
Bait dayo

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142156
So... this theoretical botting company has
> office buildings all around the country
> has thousands of phones in each of these offices
> has at least 2-3 or more people in each of these offices operating these phones individually
> pays for all of this

And charges like 11$ for 1000 viewers?
Doesn't really seem that profitable to me.

Also viewfarms are counterproductive to Youtube's business model, because if they are selling to advertisers that these 70k people watched their ad and they see absolutely zero return from it, Susan would be liable to get sued.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142188
sticking to her lore as the Ghost member I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142278
I mean...

[Anonymous No.]

Marine is about to break 30k

[Anonymous No.]

Manjisanji bros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142322
the $11 company is a botting company, what you're describing is a viewfarm company. They are not the same

[Anonymous No.]

New NegiU cover just dropped on the official channel.
Did any of them announce this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142351
wait what the fuck, what happened to those 100k viewers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142366
well the botting company's public website screenshots have already been posted.
If they're REALLY that easy, can you find some of them? (don't post the URL obviously, but the buy page screenshots).

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142351
B-but nijisanji number one, they said. They could get 100k viewers for every stream they said

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142322
You're saying as if there weren't already attempts of crypto streams over the past few months with 20k+ ccv but a slow chat. Other than that, there's also pajeet streams which gets 30k+ but slow chats too. Those looks like cult scams to me.

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>>25142351
kanda's not really that popular, he's just a kamen rider/toku and im@s autist and gunkan killed all his yumejoshis

[Anonymous No.]

Nice trips

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>>25142369
>Cover
It's an orisong you dunce.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142322
>Doesn't really seem that profitable to me.
anon, it's extremely profitable to do that for multiple videos a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142351
0.1 Salome

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0.3 Salami for Marine

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>>25142418
does she accelerate at this hour again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142427
is that bilibili anon still around? maybe they can get the screenshots for how much the bigger ones are charging.

[Anonymous No.]

ummm Salomekeks?

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>>25142392
Online ones are obviously different to what they offer in china. Like why would they promote a botting service in an english site?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142418
Jesus fuck she's not slowing down, should hit 600k by the early hours of tomorrow (JST)

[Anonymous No.]

not the hecking pre-recorded live from niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142417
What happens to be male in the main branch = success cope from Nijiniggers? Are they fake?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142492
HORSE LEWDS?!

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>>25142028
well 111 now with just jp anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142492
nice 3d tech there KMR

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142492
Up to 103k now

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142492
GolShip made appearance as guest star at vtuber festival. Is she counts as chuuba?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142079
damn..

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142558
Yes

Salomekeks, I don't feel so good

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142509
>male in the main branch = success cope from Nijiniggers
It's only ever been Holofags who say that shit while the actual Nijifags know there's plenty of male shitters and decently successful females

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142032
really, nobody?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142558
While she is, the High CCV streams on her channel are all fleshbag streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142509
You fags are the ones pushing manjisanji. we actual nijisanji fans always said that niji have male and female with different levels of popularity, including males.

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>>25142492

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>>25142509
everyone who says that are holoretards, every single nijisanjifag knows there are men who are literal whos in JP branch, like do you even know who harusaki air is? yeah, most people don't either

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>>25142247

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>>25142581
>>25142599
I consider her in cookieswirlc tier but okay

Lets put her in horserace kek

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>>25142625
Salome fans out in the wild

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142590
Nobody care about the Italian

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142590
nobody watch homosh@rts

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142590
Aruran has a charisma problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142705
You seem lost, jptard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142032
>nobody
"we" arent chuuba, maybe talking about chuuba instead

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>>25142427
>>25142406
NTA, but just saying: there is a reason why they are called *view* farm and not "live viewers farm". It's just unlikely that they have several dozens different office all over the place, even if those "offices" were all mud hut style house in rural places.
View farms obviously exist, as can be seen in those pictures you can find everywhere on the Internet. However, they are meant to farm views (which is much easier than boosting CCV since you can just keeping refreshing and changing IPs with a script), not to boost a stream by as many as several dozens thousands viewers - that's bots' territory.

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>>25142580
>>25142602
>>25142614
Wtf happen to you guys when this rrat is spreading like wildfire?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142733
>complaining about homoshits
>in holoen board

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>>25142640
paka tube/goldship is daisenpai
debuted around the same time as mito and robocosan

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140518
Mito has an iron grip on her "core" that will literally follow her every stream. This core is very big (6-8k) but her cap is low outside that.

[Anonymous No.]

I just think
Imagine big gacha debut Vtuber that will be used for their news stream
Big gacha news stream are always on another league

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142774
holomouthbreathers only believe what they want to believe, they won't listen even if you explain

[Anonymous No.]

AYAME DONO is streaming.

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>>25142780
Nobody uses homosh@rts outside jp/hlg because they spammed that so much it actually got onto the wordfilter there, now go back and jerk yourself off over how the holos definitely think like you

[Anonymous No.]

I know its reddit but subscription increase before and 1 month after the merger of kr/id with jp
https://www.reddit.com/r/NijiForums/comments/usqv2n/was_the_22_merger_a_success/

[Anonymous No.]

Less bait. more discussion, anontachi

[Anonymous No.]

If Nijisanji has the funds to increase viewership, more power to them. Why is it a bad thing? Just fake it til you make it.

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>>25142774
For whatever reason nijifags have this weird thing where they'll let a narrative spread and gain steam and then suddenly sperg out months later about how people believe all kinds of wierd shit about nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>25139043
an anon explained why she has a ton of debuffs few threads ago >>25111183, if she didn't sabotage her own growth she'd be at 1M now

[Anonymous No.]

Marine just took the current top spot/eventual silver off Subaru

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142840
And like clockwork, the nijinigger argument shifts from
>it didn't happen
to
>it doesn't matter
remember this formula, you'll see it time and time again

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>>25142827
A lot of Nijisanji success lately is due to the managemenr, aka CEO, actually acting as CEO and not a wannabe model.

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>>25142846
more like nobody has the fucking time to monitor all bait threads on this board because they actually watch streams

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>>25142625
how much do you think that particular farm costs to set up?
Each of those smartphones is at least 800RMB, totaling to at least 1000 phones per office.
Grand total of about 120k Dollars just for the phones alone.
Not to mention the costs of the building etc.
I dunno man, I don't buy that these are just for one chuuba in Japan.

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>>25142814
unironically cope and seethe beggar, this the only reply you will get from here because you're a pathetic homostan and nobody watches them aside from faggot like you, do us a favor and go back to your homohugbox because nobody even wanted you here, you pathetic flaming homo beggar.

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>>25142351
17k now that he has female guests

but sorry, marine, horses AND Ayame are streaming.

Not to mention all the NijiJP overlap

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>>25142890
You seem lost jpnigger, this ain't /jp/ no more

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>>25142774
there are no nijifans on this board, those three are holofags larping.

[Anonymous No.]

How rare is a Marine and Ayame stream at the same time?

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>>25142865
Good to see the power order is still the same
Would be embarrassing if she lose to Subaru

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>>25142827
Interesting graphics anon.
So the ones who grew the most in subs since then are:
Mika
Suha
Nari
Reza
Seffyna
Hayun
Hada
Nara
Bobon
Roha
Pretty much all of the ones who have been doing collabs with EN or JP

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>>25142886
yeah which would be true if it was in bait threads and not in /#/, the most influential thread where all of you evidently still lurk but don't say shit, and then get angry when rrats spread because you don't say shit

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>>25142864
Look, I highly doubt it was fake, because Salome is the talk of a whole nation now. But it is helping the entire vtuber industry incline so why is the number number a bad thing? The more the industry grows, the more your oshi grows

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142917
I'm a nijifan, fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142912
>the level of intellect of homobeggarsherts

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142917
there are like 5 niji generals on this board

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>>25142917
your ass you motherfucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142203
Still decent, what's her sub before this stream?

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>>25142247
https://youtu.be/W8KG9nOPdOo

They almost always have these farms in a single location, which is how they get caught.
Spreading out to multiple locations with smaller scale numbers just isn't possible unless you have HUGE capital.

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dumb question but does Niji have the most graduations or is there another corpo that has 51+ graduations

[Anonymous No.]

looks like that flip already here

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>>25142906
The horse stream isn't even a vtuber streaming, its a bunch of the VAs shilling the game. Gold ship isn't even streaming lmao.

but it would be funny to include it on the race, even when its literally not a vtuber streaming.

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>>25142933
do you think i monitor these threads 24/7, i can only refute if i'm around, and there's only a handful of nijisanji watchers would step foot in this godforsaken place to actually kill narratives

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>>25142757
>However, they are meant to farm views
Douyin (tiktok) has a big problem with viewfarms in the livestreams, where literal shitters can get tens of thousands of ccv though viewfarms in order to sell products
>>25142887
They are there for hire, dumbass. And $120k in equipment is fucking nothing

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>>25142944
For one thing, it's not a good look for anyone to go "Yeah, I'm cheating, who cares?"
For another if it ever gets revealed that niji has been paying for bots it'll irreparably damage the vtuber industry in such a way that no one will ever trust them. "Fake it until you make it" is meant to be used on personal, internal stuff, not to justify blatant fraud

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142952
All me

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>>25142989
yeah i can tell by some of the syntax of the baits

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>>25142996
No, we never include it in the race.
I just wanted to post horse lewds while staying "on topic"
getting back to Nijisanji merger

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>>25142996
Pakatube is technically Uma Musume official channel

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>>25142707
Explain, because from what I've seen there's nothing particularly uncharismatic about him unlike, say, Miyabi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142310
This is the fastest Gura VOD I've seen in a while.

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>>25143055
oh, good man. Horse lewds away.

[Anonymous No.]

Ayame 30k get

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>>25143055
aren't horse lewds illegal?

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>>25143055
>horse lewds
Watch out anon or the yakuza will get you

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143023
>it'll irreparably damage the vtuber industry
lol

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>>25143106
you are the one making the argument that it's helping the entire vtuber industry incline, now stick to it

[Anonymous No.]

why do people still think salome is botted when twitter has been trending with salome's tags the whole day every single day

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>>25143120
I'm not him, I just found it hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

These number are quite disappointing for Marine. Now just need to wait for Pekora and we will know if Salome actually eat into Holobox
If yes then no one would dare to take a break from now on

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143126
because see pic related

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>>25143126
One or two retards, plus some falseflaggers

[Anonymous No.]

4 streams over 30k for holo today so far
but they are only 0.3 Salome so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>25143126
Because when you get big numbers real people tune in too, retard.
You don't have to be fully botted. If just 50k views per day are botted, she's still a freakish monster who's VODs and engagement are huge. But those extra 50k skew the stats and make tourists keep coming to see what the fuck is so amazing about her.
To be clear I'm not giving some sort of estimate of how much is botted or whether its botted, just an example.

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>>25143126
It's one retard samefagging to make the lurkers think we actually believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143155
>no one would dare to take a break from now on

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143126
Because holoniggers are seething their miniscule peepees off.

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>29,962 Aqua
If Susan would have allowed it, there would have been 5 Hololive 30k+ streams today, with the 2 current ones.

apart from Salome's any other 30k+ contenders today.
Note that yes, Salome's will be the gold.

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>>25143222
>0.29 Salome
>niji killer
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143126
It would be funny if she keeps the daily 1 hour streams for June and win every day. this thread would meltdown even more

[Anonymous No.]

yea yagoo should just bot homosh@rts to put them on the map, unfortunately fujobeggars are poor as fuck and can't affort 1000 bots per hour.

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>>25141302
>duet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7l_TTDZBuk

apparently Lui and Chloe are doing something.

[Anonymous No.]

man the cocotsuki is depressing

[Anonymous No.]

Wow we already import matome memes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143081
On the other hand, Ame's creative stream, which happened at the same time, is one of her weakest ones. The pool of HoloEN watchers is small to the point that anything significant happening on Gura's channel overshadows anything else, cause clippers are hyperfocused on her.

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>>25143066
Hmm... not sure how to pinpoint it, but from what little I've seen, he has issues with matching the vibe of his collab partners. Matsuri for example has her common "thing" where she spouts extremely lewd jokes and expects the other party to tsukkomi her to keep the dynamic going, but Aruran just went with it, but also in a way that was confusing and hard to give a reverse tsukkomi to.
I don't know his solo streams, but I watched some of his UPLP streams, and there was a lot of dead air while he was doing minecraft shit.
These two instances kinda filtered me from him, and of course even before all that his design itself might not be appealing to everyone compared to Roberu.
In comparison, Roberu's dynamic with the other girls is a very common setup in anime so it's doubly hilarious when they port it to VTubers.

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>>25143178
Yeah, it's just like when that vtuber got 43k botted stream and people went there to check her to see what was her deal

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143249
>Salome
>niji
dyrbl?

[Anonymous No.]

If Salome manages to tap into the Holobox, can Riku use this loophole to debut more people like her?

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>>25143081
Yeah. It’s even picking up the pace last I spoke. It’s gained 6k views in 45 mins so it shows that this is a super popular VOD right now. Elden ring is probably the best comparison since that one just blew the fuck up and had a similar stream length. This just has that vintage mid 2021 Gura vibes all over it though. Big CCV, a fuck ton of likes (had 35k when stream ended), hilarious as hell and gave people something to look forward to. And she has a thumbnail set for Minecraft this week (likely) so Gura’s really getting back into form right now… well, when she streams at least lmao

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>>25143296
Cover can't catch a break with these Ls.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>25143276
Seems that cocone might reincarnate thats why she is graduating

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142977
smaller businesses could. That's why I said that they may operate the same way indian scammers does. Indian scammers hides behind a real company.They operate in the same building, but they are just gonna show the legit business side to the police not the illegal ones. Plus, the legit ones aren't gonna sell their services online or publicly. The ones online are probably from other countries.

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>Vampire Survivors
https://youtu.be/Y4TfsoNI73k

Sumire had a lackluster month, with almost 1/2 the meadian peak of her other VSPO members in the same sub group, at 3.5k.
Started VS today and is already at 6k.
Still a buff game.

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Weird, Shalom's Twitter bio has no links to Nijisanji, Niji's website has no links to her as well. Normally that's the first thing you prepare before a debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143173
> cherrypicking 1(one) stream which had noticeable lag

[Anonymous No.]

Eyyy holobroni
Another knee reps for you tonight
https://youtu.be/8sOOAMp4lwI

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143305
In that case though, the VOD views don't come close to aligning to the 40k and it doesn't look like she, or her company, inclined after that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143377
Hm? If they want to do IPO scam then shouldn’t she be closely associated with Niji?
What is our businessman Ricky pulling here? I feel like number is not what he is after

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143362
i wonder which corpo got her

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143392
>Noticable lag results in sudden 15k viewer jumps
only nijiniggers high on nijicope can believe this

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143296
It was done on a whim, and I'll be honest that stream has minimal replay value due to the chat interaction of polling for answers as to whats happening next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143413
I mean Riku

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143377
her entire existence is a mystery, she doesn't follow anyone asides from the nijisanji twitter either

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143423
project hope vsinger 2
you didn't hear it from me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143423
of course she will go to niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143296
>one of her weakest ones
Umm? Numbers?
11.k seems pretty good for a random La creatividad stream. Even the 7.5k before the "raid" looks ok.

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>>25143126
> only the jobless/retarded/those with a lot of free time stay here 24x7
> saneposters only post during maybe 1-2 hours a day, and different sane people post at different times
> retards and schizos outnumber saneposters for most of the thread's lifetime
> samefagging and posting on cooldown
> lurkers thing think is what (this thread) thinks

[Anonymous No.]

>>25140874
Mysta is a fan of kanda and specifically GunKan kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143394
no gold for salome today sadly

[Anonymous No.]

hello /x/, is this thread worth going through or should I wait?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143394
Smart of her picking a series game rather than one off game for your debut buff like Rat simulator lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143447

[Anonymous No.]

Everybody overperforming their medians today. The bounty of numbers is spreading around

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143480
you seem lost friend. the mole people discussion thread is 2 floors down

[Anonymous No.]

Salome is in so
Who holding the silver?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143413
She's on their website, and they're selling her merch, so in JP legal terms, she's under their umbrella.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143514
YOU KNOW IT'S SUNDAY RIGHT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143515
woops! meant /#/ dont know how that x got there. So is the thread worth checking out or should I come back later?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143377
Having links to Nijisanji might unironically lose her viewers.
I wonder how many of her current viewers even know she's from Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143497
At this point we should retire daily gold since no one can beat her, even the combination of HoloFantasy might fail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143527
salome

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143527
Marine

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143549
come back at desuwa hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143527
I keep telling you fags, add a platinum medal

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143430
> ignores the other 4 streams
concession accepted

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143527
Marine at 37k

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143514
Salami aside, lots of 30k streams on the holo side today, very strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143560
Wait for 2 weeks to see her numbers normalize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143564
is the horse mafia gonna get me if I post the secret lewds

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143296
https://youtu.be/hHedZeTsBBU
>14k peak, 12k avg
>119k in 20 hours
https://youtu.be/nODK-xr0zJw
>17k peak, 15k avg
>107k in 20 hours
Those 2 happened yesterday and have pretty similar views to this stream which many are probably not too aware and was a very “in the moment” stream.

Any stream that gets 100k views in 1hr stream time is a success so I don’t really know what you’re getting at there

[Anonymous No.]

So what was about this Met stream that got such high numbers?

Even 9.5k seems like a lot for a chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143593
Doesn't really matter when the top vtuber is on Nijisanji side. And she is new too unlike the Holo side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143394
Good. Keep this going Salome-sama!!! We can finally divert those schizos and SEAniggers to Nijisanji's side

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143593
>Salami aside,
See holobros ready to ignore her number
Kek so sad so sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143564
salome = 0.9 horse power

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143626
What's with the EKG looking spikes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143549
Come back in 8 hours. Salome streaming is just going ot be another absolute shitfest of a thread in which nothing of value is discussed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143377
>Niji's website has no links to her as well
Wdym?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143560
We have seen Sankisei at their full power with Rushia Smash stream
Damn I really miss them, not only their number…

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143560
That would be the dream honestly, baitposters would leave and we would finally discuss trends and medians rather than horses

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143593
Keep pat yourself in the back holokeks hahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143445
anon some niji jp dont even follow anyone, not even the official niji account. just look at rindou's twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143643
z bug

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143628
not really how the world works but ok you do you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143593
the doomposting is literally only happening in this thread.
Salome has very little overlap with the holo audience, and demand for the entertainment that holo provides isn't going to suddenly die down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143377
Rindou Mikoto doesnt even follow the niji account nor does she have links to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25141527
peaked at the end 2.2k

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143750
RIP. It's unfortunate that this stream had to overlap with Leona's live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143750
0.022 Salome

[Anonymous No.]

Does the horse girl count in the tally?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143744
Are you sure she doesn't steal the Holobox audience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143744
well that's obvious, hololive is still growing so things are fine.

[Anonymous No.]

Hmm, there's actually been an awlful lot of karaoke streams lately, is something happening?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143560
This is the actual reason why this thread doesn't really talk about subs outside of rate of change anymore btw. Not because it makes holo/niji look good/bad or whatever the earlier retards were saying. No one is catching Gura for a long while so there's no fun/point in horseracing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143817
casual clipfags and some tourists maybe.
hardcore streamwatchers? hell naw.

[Anonymous No.]

Ichinose on Twitch

She's getting Sumire Twitch numbers while Sumire is getting Nose YT numbers on YT.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like any EN clippers might strike gold if they can clip Salome. No one is doing it right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143814
no
its just the VAs shilling/giving info about the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>25142418
Another 5k in under an hour

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143855
You can't grow with just "hardcore streamwatchers", though

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143750
Really sad but im glad that she is gonna be back in some form

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143628
They certainly will get more big sponsor and opportunity with that but still, I don’t think it will affect other company too much. I think only this thread act like other company revenue will become 0 just because a big talent enter the market

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143870
en clippers did and they get shit numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143870
? anon salome rt'd an english clip just the other day, and there's a handful of niji clippers subbing her stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143850
Salome might have the chance to get to 3M faster than Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143817
She won't steal it.

Unless Nijisanji excessively integrates her in the """NijiBox"""", she'll be treated like Lulu, Toko or Ange.
Where Holofans just watch their solo streams, sometimes not even knowing she's actually from Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143870
we tried but jap puns are hard and only the desu wa thing is working

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143814
No, because it's a fleshbag stream. (It's basically their Patch notes stream iirc? Point being is that it doesn't count towards the tallies)

[Anonymous No.]

NIJI KR & ID .. plz graduation ..

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143870
There are a few EN clippers who clip salome
https://youtu.be/FStuZoce2b4
https://youtu.be/NW0HHPR87KQ
https://youtu.be/SOBceGD-QQw
https://youtu.be/o4hFuIeoP8w
https://youtu.be/JmkAFQ-mcsI

[Anonymous No.]

marine now 37k
it seem the sc also very big

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143936
These clips will blow up soon, I can feel it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143923
unsurprising.
Subbing and TL groups have had to deal with this issue for years, and it's always been a thorny issue.

[Anonymous No.]

Do we remove salami for her obvious bots yet or are we still in denial?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143956
Waiting room for Salome I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143870
same problem with the rest of nijisanji, japanese word humor doesn't translate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143870
Salome already has EN clips, but her appeal is in JP wordplay and word choices, which is VERY hard to translate into English.
I can see EOPs seeing just "desuwa" in everything and getting confused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143959
So did the clippers, that's why they jumped on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143995
But if Hololive can blow up, surely someone more entertaining like Salome can do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25143889
This isn't the hololive newfag season though, most of them are on break.
They already had their current newfag season during holofes, and got a ton of boost from that.

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>miko 5 days ago WWE
>4 hours 43 minutes
>87k peak
>853k vod
>gura 8 hours ago WWE
>3 hours 50 minutes
>33k peak
>622k vod
cant wait for chumkeks to come in and use this ammo

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>>25143992
Really? This is what shitposter resort to now?

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>>25143964
the tl could always change it to the closest English joke equivalent they could find but apparently they are hesitant since in their last gig they were harassed by last samurais when they did that

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>>25143956
0.3 Salome

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>>25144011
If only Vtuber Tengoku and Sushi hasn't switch to HoloJP, now I feel bad for them.

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>>25143817
evidence seems to be 'no' so far, but you can check to see how holo numbers do again when she streams today. But they haven't lost audience whenever she's on. Seems to be a kuzuha style black hole for the rest of nijisanji though.

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>>25144069
Bots don't matter

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>>25144032
hololive doesn't need high level comprehension for jokes to come across, this is exactly the biggest reason why nijisanji never made it big overseas until the foreign branches.

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>>25144032
She can with desu wa but only if her other co workers dont run it to the ground like hi honey

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>>25143904
I've been disappointed before with HoloX and I'm not optimistic with Salome either. Think no one is likely to get Gura's crazy sub count with a majority JP audience. Not a tribalfag though so I've got no horse in the race really, but it's just disappointing to see contenders peter out before reaching 1mil. I just want a good horse race.

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>>25144032
remember all that "you don't understand her greatness because you're an EOP" thing?

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>>25144079
This makes me want to see prime Pekora, Miko and Marine vs Salome. At least the handicap will be easier fpr Hololive.

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>>25144032
Hololive humor tends to be more physical and less word based, thus it can translate. Its been the main reason Hololive has flourished overseas while Nijisanji has been stuck to Japan prior to Luxiem, who opened a rode to China.

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>>25144164
Now thanks to Luxiem and Salome, Nijisanji dominates both domestic and overseas markets.

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty boy kaida haru stream minecraft now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5T37NN4mF4

Currently 3900 view

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>>25144104
adding to this, mito also said recently that only 3% of her viewers are from overseas, it's probably just the popular boys that has the most overseas fans in nijisanji.

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>>25144055
Milking her until her inevitable recline

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>>25144198
*shrug* you can believe that if you wish.

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>>25142887
The cheapest android phone goes below 500 RMB
800 would get you something like Xiaomi 10

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>>25144046
ammo for what? proofs the numbers are real?

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I just got reminded that I been following an amateur animator who stream him animating EVERY SINGLE DAY
His consistency would put even Pekora or Koyori to shame. Not gonna shill him though, just realize how awesome that is

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>>25144109
Just you wait. Salome will break Gura's record to 4m and you'll look like a faggot

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>>25144164
>Luxiem, who opened a rode to China.
you mean vox and mystia right? the chinks barely know who the other three are

[Anonymous No.]

Does Riku even need this injection of cash? Only 19% of companies who went public succeeded. This move is mind boggling.

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Sumire (VSPO) playing Vampire Survivors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4TfsoNI73k

6000 view now

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>>25144144
Prime Pekora with MGS can only pull 60k consistently. She never been able to pull such a feat since then

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>>25144276
Salome could get to 40m and it wouldn't matter. Bots are irrelevant.

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>>25126790
You can be sure, its probably more important than even viewer numbers considering the context. These are people you can reasonably expect will buy merch if they are willing to go to the extent of download an app and put in even a little time.

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>>25144293
There is a chance that he just wants to cash out

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>>25144293
anon going public isn't for the company's good, it's so the CEO can cash out his shares and go retire in a beachfront mansion

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>>25144271
sounds kind of like Telepurte except he doesn't stream.

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>>25144288
whatever you say, I don't watch them so I just lumped them all together.

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>>25144315
That is kind of an asshole move

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>>25144046
>y-you can't point out that at the end of the day Gura gets views
ogey.

But no really, big thanks to Miko for masterfully setting up this numbers arc and let's hope both of them continue it and culminate in some EN vs JP collab to truly push the kino to the limit.

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>>25144352
it's kind of the end goal of most startups, anon, either find someone rich enough to sell your company too or go public so you can sell it to investors

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>>25144032
Nijisanji humor is fucking hilarious, but it kinda relies on a lot of JP cultural references, local memes, in-jokes, and jokes that spawned out of other jokes.

I mean, just try to imagine a JOP in the chat of Ame's recent stream, trying to understand why the heck everyone is spamming "morb".
How many layers of translation would you need to make a cliip of that stream in Japanese?

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>>25144276
Man, I can't wait to see your reaction comes June 3rd
Enjoy your salami while you still can

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>>25144293
they probably need more money to do experimental things like the light up tones AR concert, vicons aren't free and they want to make more 3d studios

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>>25144066
Changing jokes is always an issue, and when it comes to subbing what someone has said, that's a big risk. At least with Manga and anime, there's the option to consult the original authors to see if such actions are a-okay (They usually are).
Of course,you don't want the TLs to get too much leeway, otherwise you end up with absolutely retarded dubshit like random gamergate quips and other nonsense where it doesn't belong.

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>>25144271
How long per day?

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>>25144365
>>25144267
Keep vod coping

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>>25144079
Current holos aren't losing audience to her, but solo watchers of Peko/Marine/Aqua/Korone etc might be checking her out purely due to the hype.
Not sure if they'll stay though.

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>>25143936

honestly , I don't understand her joke , it's not funny .

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>>25144407
I accept your concession

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>>25143936
oboretai writing ch this is your chance!!
also sushi cmon!

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>>25144387
Just do like the fansub of 30 years ago, translate straight and then
>TL NOTE: keikakku means plan

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>>25144414
its like morbing but jp

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There are too many Two-faced anons in this thread...

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>>25144271
That's a surefire way to get burnout holy shit
Even weekly mangakas don't do that

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>>25144407
I will lol. Keep clinging to youtube's magic numbers.

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>>25144066
the thing is with vtubers you're dealing with someone's public image, it's not like anime or manga where you can just freely twist the words to localize the work. also, if they do that, the people who view their clip will eventually be confused if they watch the streamer and find out the joke is somewhat different that what they knew, especially if its a running joke.

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>>25144276
Not optimistic doesn't mean I think it's impossible... I'd get a good chuckle if she broke that record actually because again I'm not a retarded tribalfag.

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>>25144263
that's still around 100k$ in investment.
And from what i've seen, most of these sites are focussed on Amazon reviews and Chinese site views, since they don't have any protections against this kind of thing.
Youtube might not be that easy.

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>>25144293
Pretty sure he cashed out half his shares with this decision.
He's got less than 43% share, so if this move succeeds he will still be successful, but even if it doesn't he can always sell the rest of his stock and cash out.

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>>25144441
To be honest, I don't understand morb too

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>>25144434
morbing means ?

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It seem if VSPO girl streaming Apex or Valorant the number guaranteed more than 5000

Especially Nose, Sumire, Hinano, and Ema (who sometimes reach 10k view)

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>>25144456
Anon, china's been in economic bubble for 10+ years now
100k burgerdollars is unironically nothing since it's guaranteed to pay you back at least double
It's showing signs of bursting tho

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>>25144445
You would be surprised
The dude been doing it for 5-10 viewer for YEARS. He is popular among Touhou artist for pulling such a feats. He slowed down these day but still at Pekora level
He pump out a 2hu animation every 3 day or so

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>>25144414

DESUWA DESUWA DESUWA x 99

> Shut up bitch it's annoying

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>90 min to go
>5k waiting

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>>25144527
hololive owakon

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>>25144515
Either they're a mega autist, or burning their literal lifeforce
dunno which one is sadder

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>>25144509
It’s a recurring topic of talk here, even the nips on Matome already acknowledged that VSPO is the third force in JP now

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>>25144387
yeah i agree
>>25144434
they did something like that apparently and got harrassed by ken-sama's
though im not sure if the vtuber community is just as harsh as in tl manga
>>25144451
yeah thats another thing that you have to consider cause your clip might gain traction and even go viral but it would not help the chuuba if you modified it so hard that its different from the actual experience

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>>25144434
Ah yes, and
"People die when they're killed"
Classic.
>>25144451
Agreed, which makes translating jokes a massive fucking pain for those trying to sub JP stuff for any livestreams.
>>25144490
It's purely off of the movie Morbius and how silly sounding the word Morb is.

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4 million is surprisingly being a huge hurdle for Gura. Is this gonna be the vtuber limit?

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>>25144377
Now that you've mentioned it, it's quite impressive that Coco managed to gain a lot of JP viewers and a lot of EN viewers as well, all while maintaining balance and without letting her audience turn into 95% JP/5% EN or the inverse of that

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Ayame is winning left and right. That girl not only has max charisma but even luck.

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>>25144565
>they did something like that apparently and got harrassed by ken-sama's
They who, clippers?

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>>25144562
Who's the 4th? and where is Verse ;_; in that ranking

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>>25144451
and that's why I never got into vtuber clipping even thought I used to translate LNs back in the day

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>>25144075

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>>25144599
Ayame came to this world with maxed out stats except stamina
>drinks vegemite

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>>25144387
>t. last samurai
it's called localization and only retards trying to be japanese think that modernizing and localizing a script to be more accessible to a western audience is bad

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>>25144607
no our translators since they worked in a scanlation group previously

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>>25144200
Better numbers, Ange giving Belmondo 8.5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZktnZYSDAB8

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>>25144562
Yeah hinano when collab with kamito always have 5000+ view

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>>25144527
she will beat golshi holy shit

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>>25144621
yeah, i want to boost my oshi so much, but most of her appeal is literally untranslatable so i just wish she finds a genie in a lamp so she can finally hit 1M

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>>25144606
774 Inc. >>25144653

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Who is sapping Marine's numbers? Its weird seeing Karaokes go down in views

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>>25144686
timeslots are a thing anon

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>>25144686
natural recline

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>>25144653
Translating serious business is different from clipniggertry

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>>25144593
She knew a large part of the game culture of JP and the general EN culture, and made full use of it, which is why she was a once in a lifetime phenomenon.

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>>25144686
>Who is sapping Marine's numbers
Father Time
>Its weird seeing Karaokes go down in views
It’s not, except for short under 1hr karaokes

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>>25144686
marine's utawaku aren't usually forever-incliners, she's not that good

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>>25144686
Matsuri

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>>25144480
so lets say riku did cash out, in this thread that focuses on numbers, losing the guy who is apparently a meme, is that considered nijisanji's 'defeat', or is it pointless and the tribalfagging continues?

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>>25144606
Hal's Neo Porte.

At least on YT. Isegye's "average" on Twitch is insane since all members are permanently buffed
And Vshojo should be around NP level in a bad month.

April average, peaks +2k
Gosegu 6,108
Ine 12,336
Jingburger 6,777
Jururu 6,811
Lilpa 9,076
VIichan 8,390

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>>25144686
Take a look at who else is streaming anon.
hint: It's Matsuri

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>>25144686

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>>25144686
salome waiting room

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>>25144752
Right, Botan also started. Looks like she also sapped some of Marine's numbers.

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>>25144432
his clip is right there
he even said on the Niji subreddit that he would sub her to farm some upboats

[Anonymous No.]

how long is salome going to pull off this insanity? will she break a new record again today or will she be back below 100k?

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>>25144740
I need to see who owns Anycolor first

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>>25144740
Anon, for the most part this thread is
>big number > small number
Some retards latch on who is getting the numbers or the context but for the most part it’s
>tally and kneel, tally and kneel

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>>25144740
depends on who gets control on anykara

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>>25144775
nice try neko mikuri
still not watching your clip

[Anonymous No.]

hey numberfags, do you have any statistics whether vtubing is declining/stagnating in the west?

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>>25144787
Goddamnit anon, that sort of mindless bullshit is why /#/ gets progressively worse week by week.

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>>25144702
but with the audience overlap between vtubers and anime/fans theres still that hesitation

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>>25144776
For as long as Niji is willing to buy her bots
So probably until right after the IPO

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>>25144740
> losing the guy who is apparently a meme
He's really not, it's a forced thing where the entire appeal is "oh it's Riku LMAO *it's your cue to laugh btw*" social pressure within the nijicult.
It hasn't been THAT effective among JPs as far as I can tell since they can smell forced bullshit a lot faster than EOPs for some reason. But NijiEN is running with it.

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>>25144746
Nah, that’s the thing, Neo Porte has too little members for it to be compared head to head

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>>25144776
back to 70k since there is no big stream to beat today

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>>25144776
June 3rd 24.00 JST
Mark this post

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>>25144811
>hey numberfags, do you have any statistics whether vtubing is declining/stagnating in the west?
all of it since it has hit the niche hobby ceiling

[Anonymous No.]

Feel good to know you oshi have a clipper that will never switch to Salome

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>>25144776
I expect her to float between 90k and 110k today.

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>>25144836
Even his predecessor is much more negatively memed than him

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>>25144776
there's nothing particularly different about today from yesterday, so if she is below 100k today I'd be seriously suspicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25144776
90-100k

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>>25144868
feels good to know I never need to rely on clipfags for anything ever again

[Anonymous No.]

>>25144776
june 6th

[Anonymous No.]

Niji nurse sukoya play minecraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odBt7nd-YBM

Now 1900 view

Hmm it seem her lack of collab with tomoe drain her number

[Anonymous No.]

>Youtube is now recommending me 2view-3view chuubas that play retro games
you know susan sometimes youre alright

[Anonymous No.]

Another cute nurse (sana-chan) play horror game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4q7zOUMKw

Now 5000 view