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NEENA GRADUATION
Fuck HATERS
https://youtu.be/gz6UAPg2Ye8

>> No.25024977

If what she said about the promotion at her job is true, then she's stupidly based for leaving the chuuba world for actual work, dont feel sad, be happy unlike 90% of chuubas she doesnt have to rely on coomers for money.

>> No.25025084

>>25024977
Fake news
haters Won
I'm SAD

>> No.25025224

>>25025084
Arr they really an idol company? And if so what was neena like to be so hated?

>> No.25025301

>>25024656
>>25025084
>>25025224
qrd why was she hated?

>> No.25025388

>>25025224
>>25025301
she talked about dicks and sex, she pressed those issues on the other girls, she practically looked like a Vshojo girl

>> No.25025506

>>25025388
Did it make the other girls uncomfortable? And what generation/wave was she?

>> No.25025630

>>25024656
who?

>> No.25025631

>>25025506
First gen.
She was just really different in style from her coworkers, probably alienated her

>> No.25025755

>>25025631
So i get the other girls wanted to play idol but neena was crashing it down constantly by acting like a vshojo? I'd like a greentext of her story if someone could be so kind.

>> No.25026319

>>25025755
She wasn't that unseiso. Just look at the title of this stream, and you'll get an idea, I think.
youtube.com/watch?v=w9sCM1LB-Gc&list=PLMRQxggOSqcloH8kGhLCcxNkl9ck_rBKn&index=7

>> No.25026563

owning the haters by.... graduating? literally who and why should i care?

>> No.25027080

>>25024656
BASED
Neena HATE

>> No.25027184

>>25026319
No matter what, I'll always hate these bitches who talk about parasocial stuff when they play a huge part on it, like a casino owner talking about gambling effects. So far they sound like your typical irl streamer so idk why the uproar about neena in specific.

>> No.25027306

>>25026319
Vivi has a boyfriend too right?

>> No.25028100

>>25025506
They would band together to show her support when she gets attacked for it. But on the other hand, which girl wants to be known as the coworker that agrees with “trolls” that she should shut up and now you’re stuck having deal with this permanent friction in the group with the one that’s especially outspoken.
This is why it was stupid whenever she gets called out for things and said “oh ya m8 I spoke to The Girls in proivate and they all agreed what I did was totally foine and you’re a dickless loser if you agree”

>> No.25028248

jesus, fuck holobronies forcing idolshit, pieces of shit

>> No.25028249

>>25025301
She talks about sex a lot which bothers people. If you like her content and member you can see a few member streams she did talking about kinks and this dude that used to dom her in a dom/sub relationship. She's super sex positive to a weird level.

>> No.25028420

>>25028100
If you *disagree”

>> No.25028546

>>25027306
yep

>> No.25028615

>>25024656
good riddance, now she can go back to being a cam streamer where she belongs

>> No.25028648

>>25028249
>>25024656
She is non-virgin huh

>> No.25028767

>failing company
>vtubers go full gachikoi milking mode
>chat's are 90%+ green, content is beyond pandering
>fanbases (aka. cults) hate the other members because their god is the bestest
I love a good death spiral

>> No.25028857

I can't believe people seethe at Mori so hard they started bitching at her to other companies

>> No.25028862

>>25025506
>started off relatively fine
>mentioned she had applied to vshojo and kawaii at the same time
>but got a reply from kawaii first and shojo soon after she had accepted the offer
>this was pretty much the first red flag
>also learned her PL was an irl twitch streamer which was cause for concern
>called her fans incels on twitter, a major red flag, then tried to feign ignorance thinking it was a foreign word and meant something else
>tried to 'reform' herself which amounted to doing nude streams but with some sort prop cover to hide her tits and starting a lackluster podcast that saw her inviting either twitch randos or members of kawaii on

>> No.25028976

neena is not a virgin she had a lot of sex, she told that to the chat and the girls

>> No.25029106

>>25028976
disgusting

>> No.25029163

>>25028767
And people still pretend idol culture is okay and there's nothing wrong with it. This is why companies like Hololive and Kawaii will always have the most problematic fans.

>> No.25029213

>>25028862
and why is this a problem, holoturd?

>> No.25029221

>>25029163
Success breeds jealousy

>> No.25029226

>>25029163
Cope and seethe.

>> No.25029250

>>25028862
Good fucking riddance.

>> No.25029258
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>> No.25029301

Her model has a nice fucking rack.

>> No.25029305

>>25024656
>see Nina graduating
>get excited
>wrong nina
Damnit...

>> No.25029333

>>25029305
this one was a shitposting aussie if that makes you feel any better

>> No.25029383

>>25028248
>it's holobronies fault
>holobronies don't watch anything other than Hololive
At least pick one
t. indie enjoyer

>> No.25029384

>>25029226
please take a shower

>> No.25029406

>>25028862
holy kek fucking deserved

>> No.25029417

>>25029221
>3 members graduated in the span of a year
>Success
I don't know man, I enjoy actually having talents to watch

>> No.25029451

>>25024656
She might be a whore but directly attacking her like that will always end with the fans looking like they're in the wrong. Why haven't people understood that as yet?

>> No.25029501

>shitposter who watch 0 streams shitposting in this thread
sucks to hear. at least if what >>25024977 said is true then she has a new gig lined up anyway. best of luck to her. if there are any actual fans of her here, i wish you guys the best of luck

>> No.25029567

>>25029163
There is this thing called DO NOT APPLY FOR THE ROLE IF YOU AINT WILLING TO FOLLOW THE RULES. It's a simple trick and really efective.
Blame holo or any other "idol company" as much as you want, but remember the chuubas who apply to those without liking what they do cause of money ain't sweet angels either.
Read the contract, see the culture inside and nope thw fuck away if you don't like it, bitches aint at gunpoint to sign.

>> No.25029578

>>25024656
>heh, your hatred actually just strenghtens my resolve to stay
>proceeds to graduate
I fucking despise retards who act tough and then fail to deliver. That's a trait which seems to be pretty common among EN vtubers.
Either be honest about being a sensitive person or actually be tough and pay no mind to bad criticism.

>> No.25029600

>>25028862
glad she's found something else to do, and I wish her success far away from vtubing.

>> No.25029612

> holobronies sperging ITT already
fucking parasites

>> No.25029634

>>25029417
>NijiKR
>NijiIN
>Niji in general

>> No.25029667

>>25029417
Kawaii lost 3 members in a year? man that got to suck

>> No.25029702

>>25025388
Based, hope these whores realize vtubing is not a place for them

>> No.25029712

>>25029612
GPTchama...
Also, I like Shylily too.

>> No.25029723

>>25029333
She was in kawaii so she might as well had been nonexistent for 99.9% of us.

>> No.25029731

>>25029634
Not a single soul even mentioned Niji until now. What is this next level of rent free? Holobrony is that you?

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>> No.25029776

>>25029751
me on the right

>> No.25029876

>shitposter deralining a thread and making it about hololive
i fucking hate you faggs so much. you stink of curry even on the internet. fucking mudhut dwellers

>> No.25029887

>>25029578
Or she was just fired with a hefty amount of money to shut up? If you see her reincarnation soon that means the "I don't have time for vtubing was bs"

>> No.25029914

>>25029876
>making it about hololive
The retard posting >>25029751 didn't clue you in? It's a lost kwaychama.

>> No.25029950

>>25029751
Didn't Nijinigers harrased Aloe for "having bf" so hard that the even went and harrased her family in home?
And you fuckers dare to talk shit about "unicorms".
Taking indie pill year ago was a good fucking choice

>> No.25030043

Jannies delete this thread please, shitposters ruined it
>H-holobron-
>Nijinigg-
Both of you who shitpost and engage, my god vtuber fans truly are annoying in this board

>> No.25030050

>>25029950
Either a falseflagger or GPTchama. Regardless, begone.

>> No.25030081

>>25029600
I'm sure there were alot of factors that went into her decision such as the idol project, she'd likely have to start practicing singing and dancing before it launched, that combined with her regular streaming plus a full time job cant imagine what kind of stress that can put on someone.

>> No.25030131

>>25029501
Fake news

>> No.25030151

>>25030043
>vtuber fans truly are annoying in this board
False. It's the posters on this board that are annoying. Most vtuber fans (read, not hololive fans) aren't like that.

>> No.25030153

>>25028862
>tried to 'reform' herself which amounted to doing nude streams but with some sort prop cover to hide her tits
Is this the roommate or do this corp give them a nude version of their model?

>> No.25030158

Do Kawaii girls all pander for gachi? I watch Isla sometimes and she seems to dislike playing the GFE role. She doesn't even like it when viewers say she's cute or say they love her.

>> No.25030191

>>25029950
> revisionism
fuck off

>> No.25030201

>>25030151
Anon why the fuck do you think Neena is graduating?

>> No.25030221

NEENA WAS A VSHOJO LEVEL WHORE
NEENA HATE

>> No.25030238

>>25025631
neena was 2nd gen

>> No.25030252

>>25030201
Because of idolfags. Same shit as holofags really.

>> No.25030266

>>25030153
nude version of the model https://youtu.be/jwLWykgiV-4?t=3332

>> No.25030275

>>25028857
Will Mori next since antis went after the wrong pink woman?

>> No.25030301

>>25030252
Kawaii is a idol company
You do know this right? Or are you just here to shitpost

>> No.25030313

>>25030201
idolshitters, probably from hololive

>> No.25030337

>>25030158
only Nene and Lua, and most of Lua's GFE is scripted ASMR stuff. Neena was just an average twitch streamer who didn't know anything about vtubing or weeb culture.

>> No.25030369

>>25029163
You think of idol culture as some rigid patriarchal structure when it's really just a code of conduct with very simple and easy to follow guidelines. When you have a job you dress and act appropriately. If you don't want to wear the uniform and follow the conduct then go indie. Don't hold corpos to your low, "walking into a store with no shirt and shoes", indie standards.

>> No.25030382

>>25029751
This would have been a good picture for argument if it didn't have wojacks on it

>> No.25030425

>>25030301
>Kawaii is a idol company
I know, that's why they have idolfags as their main audiences, which is why the graduation(s) even happened in the first place.

>> No.25030439

>>25029163
it's not fucking idol culture retard. I would react the same way if I was watching a male streamer and he talked about sex and pussies. She was just an obnoxious retard.

>> No.25030460

>>25030252
>>25030313
What did holo do to you flipnigger-kun? why so mad?

>> No.25030467

>>25030151
You just proved my point that you are a tribalistic shitposting faggot.... at least pretend you have an opinion.

>> No.25030492

>>25030266
Fucking hot

>> No.25030507

for a sec i was happy until i realized it wasn't nina from niji but a random indie fuck her

>> No.25030521

people who complain about idol culture are americans

>> No.25030536

Forgot Kawaii was still alive.

>> No.25030541

>>25030439
sure, holoturd

>> No.25030597

>>25030541
small corpo fans don't watch hololive or niji tribalfags.

>> No.25030609

>>25024656
always sucks to see a graduation. before i was all to deep into chuubas i stumbled on a clip from Nonono graduating and that broke my heart.
at least its not health related but her getting a promotion. i wish her the best of luck at her job, and a good recovery to any of her fans

>> No.25030634

I find it endlessly hilarious that the staunch attacker against idol culture or whatever the fuck he is sperging about has made it all about that, instead of a chuuba he supposedly gives a fuck about.

>> No.25030653

>>25024656
Since VShojo was her second option, you think she got there now in their 2nd wave?

>> No.25030666

>>25030266
Hah that seems a really creative/fun way to do new cameo outfits.

>> No.25030674

NEENA TALKED ABOUT SEX AND COCKS

>> No.25030692

>>25030634
>he supposedly gives a fuck about
That's the thing, anon. he doesn't give a fuck about chuubas, just about "muh idol culture!"

>> No.25030720

>biggest cock she ever took was like 6 inches
imagine thinking she's actually a whore, her body count is probably lower than 15

>> No.25030741

>Based unicornchads strike again
>harlot gets rightfully BTFO’ed
>niceguy yesmen seething,
pretty good day for Vtubing

>> No.25030750
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>>25030597
Imagine only watching one company, and not hololive, nijisanji, and small corpos at the same time. Cannae be me.

>> No.25030805

>>25030750
Small corpo chads watch almost all small corpos. It's impossible to watch all of them and also holo and nijis unless you have time control powers.

>> No.25030807

>>25030653
she talks at the start of the stream that the reason is that she got a promotion at her other job and it would just be not worth it for her to keep on doing the chuuba stuff
so unless she lied for some reason there is about 0 reason for her to join up or keep being a chuuba

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what do we have here?

>> No.25030821

>>25024656
This board will probably just turn this into another pointless thread about muh idol culture or whatever but I have to wonder why Kawaii Pro even hired her if she was so different from the direction the group wanted to go in? Then again from some of the replies in the thread it seems like the girls don't even farm gachi-fans that hard, so is there even a direction other than the vague term "idol"? Either way statements like
>you single handily ruined kawaii's chance of being idols
Is just really fucking dumb.

>> No.25030865

>>25024656
So much for "I'm in Kawaii to stay." KEK

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>>25030805
>unless you have time control powers
You know too much...

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>op is about a literally who
>retarded unicorn discorse
>muh holobronies
>muh yesmen
>muh harlots
>muh /vt/sisters
And I'm the bad guy for enjoying streams I guess.

>> No.25030909

>>25028976
absolutely despicable, they should lock her up

>> No.25030932

>>25030821
it's unicorn brain, they've convinced themselves that female vtuber = GFE with not exceptions

>> No.25030940

>>25030821
It's not as dumb as you'd think. The other girls wanted to be full-time streamers and Neena was making that impossible.

>> No.25030941

>>25024656
And nothing of value was lost

>> No.25031024

>>25030821
no one but cucks wants to hear girls talking about cocks and sex, it's not a gachi pandering thing. It's not even a "nooo they should stay pure and seiso" thing, Neena swore all the time since she's an aussie and people didn't have a problem with that. No one had a problem with her until she talked about the biggest dick she took then called her chat incels then doubled down on that and insisted on being a whore and implied she's going to make other girls act like her too.

>> No.25031036

>>25030805
You can do it if you only watch a couple of chuubas from each company. Just watch who you like, no need for "brand loyalty" or hakoshi-ing

>> No.25031065

>>25030932
>idol company
>calls all of their vtubers idols (I'll pay if you can find me where they dont)
>the vtubers themselves call themselves idols
>anonymous person on 4chan: they're not idols

Why do I even bother coming here its rotting my brain

>> No.25031067

>>25030895
just another day on /vt/

>> No.25031076

>>25029600
>>25030609
same

>> No.25031079

>>25028248
Kawaii is a Japanese idol entertainment company, holobronies didn't force shit.

>> No.25031080

>>25030940
I'm pretty sure one person wasn't stopping what, six or seven others from going full time.

>> No.25031160

>>25031080
She insisted that the others liked it and wanted to act like that too. She was scaring off the gachis and it was fucking up their revenue.

>> No.25031165

>>25031024
So it's a Mori situation where people think one bad apple is going to spoil the whole bunch?

>> No.25031175

>>25024977
She said her new salary will be twice what she earns vtubing now. She'd be stupid to pass on it and go full time chuuba instead.

>> No.25031283

>>25029451
It's on her for joining kawaii. She would've been great in Vshojo.

>> No.25031328

>>25024656
well since i am seemingly one of 2-3 anons who actually watched the video op posted some pointers
-> retiring because she got a promotion which would make it hard to stream and keep working
->as far as she knows all vods will stay
->she will keep on streaming for about 2 more months

>> No.25031394

>>25031328
Good riddance, hopefully Kawaii can grow with her gone.

>> No.25031406

>>25031065
it's just schizos

>> No.25031445

>>25031394
I'll save my grudgeposting for when Kawaii unironically inclines.

>> No.25031460

>>25031283
Nobody is joining vshojo after they had their doxxing incident

>> No.25031475

>>25024656
weird how those samefag mallow messages are being repeated as opinions in this thread. really makes ya think

>> No.25031512

>>25031328
Sounds like a win-win to me.

>> No.25031519

>>25031165
it's a Mori situation where she didn't care about vtubers and only became one because it's the trend and it's easy money. She used to be a literally who twitch streamer before joining Kawaii. She's graduating because her actual job pays more so she doesn't need to pander to incels anymore.

>> No.25031523

>>25024656
it's literally one schizo sending all of those

>> No.25031547

>>25031519
you tell em sister

>> No.25031596

>>25031519
Based but what does that have to do with mori

>> No.25031627

>>25031596
I don't know I don't watch hololive

>> No.25031646

>>25031165
Yes.

>> No.25031651

>>25031460
This is so much copium is insane, you think a woman would waste the opportunity of free money and flexible hours? Watching memes while eating making as much as a fucking doctor? Seriously?

>> No.25031710 [DELETED] 

>>25031651
you don't know shit holobronie

>> No.25031715

>>25031596
It's similar issues people had with Mori earlier on. Most noticeably when she tried to mix her HoloEN and Vshoujo/3DPD friends. The idea that the bad habits of one streamer will spread to the others.

>> No.25031752

>>25031024
OH SHIT THATS HOT
Clips anyone?

>> No.25031769

>>25031651
You would have to be a complete imbecile to join a company that gives no shit about your safety and would willingly dox you without a second thought
>whorejo shill
>twitchfag
Nevermind I am talking to a clinically diagnosed retard

>> No.25031828

>>25031460
she already got doxxed lmao

>> No.25031830

>>25025301
She's Strayan.

>> No.25031886

>>25031710
What the.... oh true, seanigs are on holidays, no wonder the board is so shitty.

>> No.25031914

>>25030439
>male idols don't exist

>> No.25031951

>>25031715
I too remember when Nyanners fucking raped Kiara's asshole on their collab.

>> No.25031957

>>25031914
notice how no one is complaining about her swearing in every sentence and they're only focusing on her being a whore, that's because they're just jealous incels and not idolfags

>> No.25031962

>>25031914
Shut up Starstard

>> No.25031965

Be a slut if you want and enjoy your fanbase of coomers, that's fine, but don't force it on other people. That's not Vjosho tier, it's way worse, it's just being a terrible coworker, friend and all around annoying person.

Melody is a slut, but as far I know super respectful to others and never forced anything on anyone.

>> No.25031987

>>25031957
Jealous of what? They're begging elon musk on twitter spamming @ on him praying he responds so he can fund their scam kickstarter project

>> No.25032012

>>25031715
Have you considered that people might just not want to see whores when they watch idols?

>> No.25032013

>>25031987
they're jealous because she has sex and they don't

>> No.25032024

>>25028862
>Liliana
>Random Twitch streamer

>> No.25032038

>>25028862
You got most things wrong.

>> No.25032054

>>25030807
Or she's just a stuck up arrogant shit who can't admit she was a dumbass for attacking groups of fans and responding to criticism with taunts.

Indies can do whatever they want because they're their own agents, but when you're part of a group your actions reflect on all of them. A shitter with a bad attitude can wreck the image of a small company single-handedly as it shows they tolerate utterly sub-par people and sets the bottom of the barrel.

It's easy to be an edgy stupid asshole online, to say and act in ways more amplified than you are in-person - everyone can do that, fuck basically everyone does that in fact - but, it's harder to uphold a good ideal image of yourself successfully, indefinitely, and do it in an authentic/genuine-feeling way. This is why the latter is more valued to people here. Children and casuals who either are new to the internet or don't use it that much still find the former "lol she's edgy wow!" attitude appealing but when you've been using the internet for 10-20+ years and have seen it all, you know it's nothing special.

>> No.25032086

>>25032013
Right.

>> No.25032098

>>25032054
>It's easy to be an edgy stupid asshole online, to say and act in ways more amplified than you are in-person - everyone can do that, fuck basically everyone does that in fact - but, it's harder to uphold a good ideal image of yourself successfully, indefinitely, and do it in an authentic/genuine-feeling way. This is why the latter is more valued to people here. Children and casuals who either are new to the internet or don't use it that much still find the former "lol she's edgy wow!" attitude appealing but when you've been using the internet for 10-20+ years and have seen it all, you know it's nothing special.
this is really well put

>> No.25032179

>>25024656
This was a message from heavens regarding Haachama x Vshojo collabs.
God is telling us to act, NOW.

>> No.25032181

>>25031024
>No one had a problem with her until she talked about the biggest dick she took then called her chat incels then doubled down on that and insisted on being a whore and implied she's going to make other girls act like her too.
What if I'm into Corruption and I enjoy these tags? Or if I'm actually mentally sound and don't think of these girls as my girlfriend(s)?

>> No.25032185

>>25029163
Take “idol culture” out of your vocabulary you fucking secondary retard. Nobody likes whores, vulgarity in streams is just the refuge of the ignorant lacking talent, not something to be boastful of.

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a 2view I never knew existed is graduating, that sucks

>> No.25032250

>>25031627
Based.

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> Or she's just a stuck up arrogant shit who can't admit she was a dumbass for attacking groups of fans and responding to criticism with taunts.

> Indies can do whatever they want because they're their own agents, but when you're part of a group your actions reflect on all of them. A shitter with a bad attitude can wreck the image of a small company single-handedly as it shows they tolerate utterly sub-par people and sets the bottom of the barrel.

> It's easy to be an edgy stupid asshole online, to say and act in ways more amplified than you are in-person - everyone can do that, fuck basically everyone does that in fact - but, it's harder to uphold a good ideal image of yourself successfully, indefinitely, and do it in an authentic/genuine-feeling way. This is why the latter is more valued to people here. Children and casuals who either are new to the internet or don't use it that much still find the former "lol she's edgy wow!" attitude appealing but when you've been using the internet for 10-20+ years and have seen it all, you know it's nothing special.

>> No.25032331

>>25031519
So it's a Nina situation instead of a Mori sit

>> No.25032334

I'm sure all 15 of her members are really beat up over this.

>> No.25032350

>>25030741
based

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> Take “idol culture” out of your vocabulary you fucking secondary retard. Nobody likes whores, vulgarity in streams is just the refuge of the ignorant lacking talent, not something to be boastful of.

>> No.25032393

>>25032012
I didn't realize this whore was in every other stream constantly and was simultaneously brainwashing every member to act exactly like her. My bad. Jesus Christ the rest of the girls are also people they can freely choose to NOT act like the whore, and I'm willing to bet they don't.

>> No.25032418

>>25032328
>>25032369
and the mask finally slipped
you can go back now

>> No.25032442

>>25032393
why do you think it's about how the other girls act? what if it's just that idol fans don't want to watch whores?

>> No.25032452

>>25032328
>>25032369
>I have no argument and am acting like a 12 year old in real-time

>> No.25032479

>>25032393
>I didn't realize this whore was in every other stream constantly and was simultaneously brainwashing every member to act exactly like her.
This is what schizos and purists unironically think Mori and Nina are doing to their respective branch.

>> No.25032515

>>25032479
They literally are and have

>> No.25032531

>>25032054
cool point
what the fuck does it have to do with my post tho?

>> No.25032534

>>25032393
>brainwashing every member to act exactly like her
yes, she actually said she would do that

>> No.25032621

lmao this isn't even about her being a whore
even /pkg/ didn't care when she made fun of incels, it's literally one schizo sending her hate messages and she got over that. She was in it for money and she's graduating because she gets more money from her real job now. If you watch her streams it's obvious that she never cared about vtubing or anything japanese related.

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>>25032515
See? They're just a couple of levels below conspiracy theorists.

>> No.25032701

>>25032531
Basically I'm saying "no shit she lied, because she's arrogant and clearly didn't respect viewers" so it's just saving face.

>> No.25032709

>>25029667
Have you seen Wactor or Tsunderia though.

>> No.25032757

>>25032452
lol hes literally having a tantrum

>> No.25032769

>>25032621
That's the thing about these threads, they tend to attract tourists who don't even watch anyone from Kawaii

>> No.25032783

holobronies...

>> No.25032970

>>25032701
look man the only video of hers i watched was the one op posted. the only Kawaii i gave a shot was Nene for a while so i really don't know how Neena is as a person. we can theory craft all we want but unless she reincarnates down the line it will all just be speculations

>> No.25032999 [DELETED] 

>>25024977
Weird way to blame men for women choosing to leech from them but okay.

>> No.25033009

Holobronies, protect kawaii
Once HolostarEN debuts the fall of Hololive will come, and you will need somewhere else to run to

>> No.25033019

>>25032621
>she never cared about vtubing or anything japanese related

Tons of indies and small corpos are exactly like that, WHY do these shitters get hired? The odds of randos off the street turning out to be a gem like Subaru in Holo (who knew nothing of the culture) is near-zero these days, because subaru was hired back when Holo was small time well before the scene blew up to today's scale. You won't generally find naive nice people anymore applying, these types are gonna be normalfag girls who googled "how much can a vtuber make", saw the income of the top 0.1%, their eyes bulge and they apply with a cutthroat me-me-me attitude.

>> No.25033025

>>25032783
cuckshojos...

>> No.25033034

>>25033009
Holostars isnt hololive though

>> No.25033099

>>25033009
Only two or three Kawaii girls would even appeal to them desu.

>> No.25033136

>>25033099
And who would they be?

>> No.25033165

>>25033019
she was scouted by kawaii, clearly had enough numbers in her PL to be appealing

>> No.25033239

>>25033136
do your reps holonigger

>> No.25033315

>>25033136
Tenshi comes to mind first for obvious reasons, Charzu will probably get some fans too since she plays a good brat. Her content is a bit weak to me though.

>> No.25033492

>>25033034
Holo isn't anywhere as strict as Kawaii when it comes to male interactions. It cannot be a one on one collab, it has to be a big one like something Crab Game can support. Not only that most aren't willing to collaborate with men. So far I think only one is willing to do so, but you can see her everywhere in a multitude of vtuber chats.

>> No.25034034

Nijifags trying so hard. So sad. Got skunked by numbers today and need a place to vent, huh?

>> No.25034445

>>25030266
That's fucking hot, did we ever get to see her nude model uncensored? Or was she forced to keep it censored?

>> No.25034601

Neena BTFO

>> No.25035245

>>25030425
If Kawaii is an idol company then the blame lies in the one going against that.

>> No.25035585

>>25035245
This

>> No.25035855

>>25034445
member streams. She doesn't have nipples if that is what you are after.

>> No.25036031

>>25035245
Kawaii isn't even an idol company, none of the girls were hired to be an idol and the only restrictive rule is the no male rule. In fact the management is encouraging them to post coomerbait shorts.

>> No.25036240

It's been mentioned elsewhere, but I don't understand how people take these companies seriously. What does it mean for an agency to be for "idols" when
>not japanese or korean, so the concept culturally ingrained by members
>no infrastructure to speak of for concerts, skits, events, anything
>no contacts with real media or real companies for partnerships
You niggas are debating over a glorified "entertainment company" run by what might as well be some random Discord mods lol. This is such a massive LARP it's kinda sad

>> No.25036364

>>25036240
Kawaii is Japanese

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>>25036240
>>no infrastructure to speak of for concerts, skits, events, anything
That is what the kickstarter is for.

Make the VTuber group "kawaii" a 3D idol!
Creation of 8 3D models for kawaii Idol Project 1st 3D live stage

>> No.25036510

>>25036240
Then what was Sora expecting?

>> No.25036680

>>25036031
>Kawaii isn't even an idol company
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/productionkawaii/make-the-vtuber-group-kawaii-a-3d-idol

>> No.25036731

>>25036680
that literally doesn't mean shit, and it wasn't even a thing when the Neena drama happened.

>> No.25037335

>>25033492
A reminder that Cover put restrictions on JPs from outside male chuuba collabs to the point that they broke up the Oozora family unit but a lot of you faggots who are yelling about the male collab future have memoryholed this or are so fucking new as to have never known

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>>25036510
Sora IS an idol you colossal faggot

>> No.25037412

>>25037335
meanwhile Towa and Matsuri playing Apex with men regularly. hmmm

>> No.25037424

Rope

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THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE

>> No.25037474

>>25036240
>It can't be idol shit because I'm retarded and don't understand idol shit at all.
You'rer like one of these fucking no neck mouth breathers that thinks the word "otaku" only applies to anime shit.

>> No.25037540

>>25037437
Neena, Nina, Neener

>> No.25037574

>>25037412
And? Matsuri streamed with a porn chuuba and Towa is a man doing a womans voice pick two actual female none slut chuubas

>> No.25037787

>>25037574
>Towa is a man doing a womans voice pick two actual female none slut chuubas
lel

>> No.25037788

A lot of ugly women in this thread. No Luxium stream today? Is milord not on? lmao

>> No.25037811

>>25037386
Reading comprehension you nigger faggot.

>> No.25037812

>>25037437
Neena-nina-neener...

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>>25037412
Unicorn-chan dont look...

>> No.25038038

>>25036364
If that's the case, the fact it all comes off as blatantly fake and forced is even sillier then
>>25036510
No idea what you're talking about
>>25036680
Having to crowdfund your basic setup makes the whole venture less serious, not more
>>25037474
?

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>>25033019
>You won't generally find naive nice people anymore applying
Have you heard of this retro game-playing spider?

>> No.25038181

>>25037574
how about Sora ?

>> No.25038293

>>25038038
>YOU CAN'T DO THAT, YOU'RE NOT EVEN JAPANESE
>they are a Japanese company
>W-WELL, IT'S FORCED
Fucking pathetic.

>> No.25038302

>>25038038
>I didn't know a basic fact about the company but my opinion matters
You don't know shit about idols, its culture or companies. Fuck off you third worlder.

>> No.25038430

>>25038093
based amiya shill

>> No.25038851

>>25038093
Hey I said -generally-, not that it's 100% impossible. Just probably like 9/10 odds it's gonna be someone who just would get asspained at the entire thing and only hang on jadedly to try to milk money.

>> No.25039560

>>25028248
>holobronies
>Kawaii is literally trying to become an idol company
Stupid nipplenig

>> No.25039723

>>25024656
>Neena's making more money now and no one has to put up with her anymore
Sounds like a win win situation to me.

>> No.25039756

>>25025224
my only impression of her (and reason I hate her) is that she no-showed to a collab with my oshi and then tweeted out something like "sleeping in is the best, how are you guys doing?".

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>>25038038
>Holodrone makes more excuses because their ignorance has been exposed about vtubers once again

>> No.25039923

>>25036731
Watch streams SEAincel, they have planning this for months now

>> No.25040508

>>25033019
she is a real gamer

>> No.25040582

>>25032621
Its funny because the actual backlash was from one SEAschizochristcuck attacking her for making a bible joke lmao

>> No.25041276

>>25040582
It really felt like she was doing this as an experiment
>I did cam streaming but vtubers seem to be making more and these guys will give me a free model
>plus $100 monthly for art and probably thumbnails for streams

>> No.25041916

>>25024656
good riddance, she was a fucking whore and didn't fit kawaii

>> No.25041970

>>25041276
she was using a model even before getting into kawaii

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>>25029163
Success breeds jealously

>> No.25042205

>>25028249
She was so open about sex that I felt a little uncomfortable watching her streams lmao. Like that time she was talking about cum on her face in a GTAV stream. Sure as hell ain't no idol, that's for sure.

>> No.25042209

NEENA LOVE

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>>25042199
>>25029221

>>25029417
It's funny how the same statement pretty much fits perfectly for both companies, don't you agree?

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>>25042199
>>25029221

>>25029417
It's funny how the same post works pretty much perfectly for both companies, don't you agree?

>> No.25042865

>>25042468
A shame they didn’t graduate her for being a whore too instead of waiting to find out she broke NDA.

>> No.25042926

Based, always hated this bitch.
Haters we won!

>> No.25045126 [DELETED] 

>>25037437
Satome for EN3

>> No.25045222

>using fake controversy to boost your fame.
Will last for only a blip.

>> No.25045474

>>25032185
Married with Children had a 14 year run and a massive audience despite vulgarity in sitcoms being seen exactly as you see it in vtubing.
Nothing wrong with serving that market. Just don't do it when you're part of a company that has different goals.

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Hahahaha btfo by unicorns

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>>25024656
what a waste of a good design

>> No.25045998

>>25045853
always has been. not the first time and won't be the last

>> No.25046068

>>25028249
>a few member streams she did talking about kinks and this dude that used to dom her in a dom/sub relationship.
go on...

>> No.25046324

>>25041916
>she was a fucking whore
All of them are whores save for like 2 autists from the gen1, maybe. Cant describe my disappointment after I checked on their 2nd gen.

>> No.25046576

>>25045853
>looks like a sexy onee-chan
>is actually an aussie slut

>> No.25046878

>>25046576
Looks like a prostitute from an eroge set in medieval Japan to me.

>> No.25047145

>>25029258
>gets graduated for being a whore

>> No.25047159

>>25028248
kawaii is an idol company, just don't watch idolshit if you hate idolshit, retard.

>> No.25047202

>>25024656
I have no idea who this is but by her voice she sounds like a huge bitch, so good riddance.

>> No.25047217

>>25045474
no, you don't understand, it's not good enough that I have a wide range of sex obsessed vtubers who cater to my tastes. Everyone else must be denied the vtubers who cater to their tastes, because I have decided that is "problematic".

>> No.25047246

>>25024656
>Opts into being an idol
>Pisses and cries when people won't put up with her subverting idol culture
What the fuck did she expect

>> No.25047282

>>25047202
She talked about her sexual experiences and the biggest dick she's taken

>> No.25047294

>>25047159
They might call themselves an idol company but the talents sure as fuck dont fall into the idol category.

>> No.25047297

>>25045853
made for paizuri and throat-fucking

>> No.25047430

>>25047246
False premise, when did she opt to be an idol?

>> No.25047590

>>25030634
These people don't even watch chubas, they are tw*tter parasites who live simply to subvert anything and everything good in this world. Vtubing is simply another avenue for their culture war.

>> No.25047608

>>25024656
That is a nice model. I will have to look up her mama

>> No.25047625

This thread is exactly why you should not accept holofags into your fanbase.
Gen 3 ruined vtubing for nearly half a decade.

>> No.25047669

>>25047625
I agree, my fellow Kindred.

>> No.25047725 [DELETED] 

POMU ANAL
Talking about enemas

>> No.25048128

>>25030151
ah the classic non holo=good guys
you only proved that anon you replied right
how about you actually start streaming you ngmi 1view

>> No.25048134

Can't you work your full time job and stream for like 2-3 hours every couple of days? Seems like it's good pocket money, It's stupid to just leave it all behind unless kawaii forces a 5 day schedule every week.

>> No.25048178

>Kawaii is collapsing now
Well then.

>> No.25048244

>>25048134
She's gonna go indie when she leaves, and then she doesn't have to pretend to give a shit about idol stuff anymore

>> No.25048265

>>25048178
that's right, it's collapsing, so don't watch them. in fact, none of you in here should watch them. stay out.

>> No.25048307

>>25047430
When she agreed that she wanted to take part months ago you dipshit

>> No.25048360

>>25048265
Gatekeeping kills the company

>> No.25048367

>>25048134
People get into it because they think they can make it and make big money. When you realize it's just not gonna pan out for you keeping it as a part time job making pennies doing it just isn't appealing anymore.

>> No.25048396

>>25032185
>nobody likes whores
>the porn industry is the reason certain media won the media format wars
>is one of the biggest bandwidth generators on the internet next to cat videos.
Okay fuckwit. Go inhale your daily dose of morality in the church.

>> No.25048403

>>25048360
and not gatekeeping invites a bunch of bottom-feeding parasites.

>> No.25048470

>>25048134
reeeeeeeee shutup incel!

>> No.25048512

>>25048360
Gatekeeping keeps it as a small corpo that flies below the notice of human garbage, which is fine by me.

>> No.25048592

>>25048512
Congrats, all the girls suffer and graduate but at least you got o keep your sekrit club!!

>> No.25048644

>>25048592
You are the exact type of person I hope to keep out, so I don't really care what you have to say.

>> No.25048706

>>25048367
Sucks for them, if I'm in their position I'd be happy to withdraw $100 every couple of months for beer/new game money.

>> No.25048840

>>25048396
He's not completely wrong. To be precise it's not about people not liking whores because that's stupid, most would definitely want having a whore in their bed, but it's about the type of content they can produce.
Just have a look at Project Melody, most Vshojos or any of the Milftubers currently on the rise. Their stream can all be resumed to "hornymode" and "wholesomemode". But then what? We could start arguing about what everyone's definition of "content" is but it won't change the fact that the streams are literally just highschool-tier-banter-from-that-hot-girl. That's not the person you're going to call whenever you actually want to do something new, interesting or different. Unless it's about sex.

>> No.25048945

>>25047294
What's important isn't the 'idol' descriptor but rather what it entails - no politics or MALES. That's the important part, not pre-recorded dancing and singing on a virtual stage.

>> No.25049117

>>25048840
And? It's not like you need to watch 100% of everything ever.
I don't even watch half the streams of people I watch regularly. If I miss a stream and it isn't significant, I simply don't care.
Same thing applies.
Vtubing got latched on to by the most autistic fuckwits imaginable - obsessives with a serious case of FOMO that replaced anime with vtubing.

>> No.25049156

>>25048134
Funny enough it's what the Indie Nina does and works perfectly foe her.

>> No.25049172

>>25049117
>latched on to
They're the starting audience.

>> No.25049177

>>25033019
>Subaru in Holo (who knew nothing of the culture)
lmao Subaru was exposed to being a failed idol like Nene.

>> No.25049235

so some whore is claiming to be an "idol" when she's just an estreamer??

>> No.25049287

>>25049156
Saotome? She's living the dream if that's the case. 400-500 CCV with a stable job on the side.

>> No.25049360

>>25049172
Far from it. Vtuber fans have been massive normalfags for its entire lifetime, and even before it was named.
Kayfabe-seeking fans are a minority.

>> No.25049402

>>25048396
People like porn or getting their dick sucked, not the porn stars or whores, in fact, hatred and violence against """sex workers""" is so common that it's almost unversal.

>> No.25049541

>>25049117
>And? It's not like you need to watch 100% of everything ever.
Then you're not the main audience, simple as that. Since you're the don't-care type I'm also going to assume you're not the type to support them or send SC and stuff, which means you're just a neutral viewer. Nothing wrong with that I'm just making a point. The ones that gets angry are the ones who have enough time to watch them, regardless of their intention behind it.

>>25049360
>Far from it.
No, not really. Claiming that normalfags are the first who were watching the "anime girl doing annoying sound" is just complete bs and you know it.
They came in exactly when companies out there noticed it could be lucrative, normalized it and then suddenly being a vtuber was the next cool thing to do. For history purpose, reminder that the same happened to comics, animes, video games, etc.

>> No.25049543

>>25027306
Married.

>> No.25049558

>>25029258
>its a fucking shipfag on the right

lower than niggers

>> No.25049567

>>25049287
It proves you don't need a huge amount of stream time to succeed.

>> No.25049604

>>25028248
>holobronies
are we just having words mean whatever we want them to mean now

>> No.25049688

>>25049541
>No, not really. Claiming that normalfags are the first who were watching the "anime girl doing annoying sound" is just complete bs and you know it.
You're the one saying that's what always happened. Sorry, you are wrong.
People replaced their cams with a 3D model, and later down the line L2D when it became easier to use for the average person.
Companies weren't even involved in this shit back then. Fuck off. No, SHE never even existed either.
Stop pushing your shit "no, vtubing is SUPPOSED TO BE THIS, IT'S A SERIOUS CAREER" nonsense revisionist crap.

>> No.25049778

>>25049688
>Companies weren't even involved in this shit back then.
>They came in exactly when companies out there noticed it could be lucrative, normalized it and then suddenly being a vtuber was the next cool thing to do.

>> No.25049856

>>25049778
Yeah fuck off. Learn to read before you try push your revisionist crap. Go back to /a/ and stay there with your shit SoL.
You newfags stick out like a sore thumb.

>> No.25049938

>>25049856
You're trying too hard.

>> No.25049999

>>25049688
You only read what you wanted to read.
I'm talking about vtubing, not facecams. We can go full autism and I can start to lecture you about how this literally was used first by Japanese recluses but what'd be the point? Besides yes, sorry but the real root of the current vtubers IS the anime girl yelling at shit or making weird noises. Of course it has evolved, just like anything in that field.

>"vtubing is SUPPOSED TO BE THIS"
I never said nor even implied this. Stop arguing with the narrative in your head and try to read my points.

>> No.25050216

>>25049999
And that is exactly where it stemmed from. People replacing their webcam feeds with a model, be it 3D or 2D.
Some others caught on to it, "I'm shy / ugly", they started using it as well.
It quickly blew up and gained traction.
Then the Kiz came around.
What, do you think only the west facecams or some shit? What the fuck is your argument?

>evolved
So, it changed? Really gets the noggin joggin.
What was that argument you were going on about again? About how the "normalfags ruined it"? lmafo, don't make me laugh kid, it's the weirdos and actors that "ruined" if anything.
Fact is - the majority of streamers in general are average cunts streaming to a handful of people at best, most of them their friends.

>> No.25050246

Normalfags coopting a formerly niche interest and then telling everyone else they're the problem, no better duo.

>> No.25050367

>>25050246
>being niche means it is excluded from normalfaggotry.
Someone doesn't know what normalfaggotry means.
Protip - it has nothing to do with being "normalized", or whatever this retarded argument is. Hilariously, that's the newfags meaning. Poetic if you ask me.
Normalfaggotry is a mentality. Lurk for a million years.

>> No.25050427

Keep alluding to your status as an oldfag, it does a really good job of making you look secure and not at all like you're lying to give your opinion a higher perceived value.

>> No.25050554

>>25050427
Keep having no argument, my time being here doesn't change that fact.
This sub-category of streaming has always majority been normalfags simply substituting a camera feed for an avatar. Youtube wasn't even on the radar when this was a thing. (and this is why a large chunk of NND despises vtubers now)
Try again kiddo.

>> No.25050776

>>25050246
And the joke being that I literally pointed to him earlier that it happened in other fields too, that's hilarious.
Nvm, if anything he's perfectly proving my point. I think I'm done, it's obviously not going to go anywhere. You go try to reason with him if you want.

>> No.25050878

>>25048134
>Seems like it's good pocket money
It's not worth it. Stream for the attention, maybe, not for money. as 2view indie
As said above Neena will be streaming for another 2 months.

>> No.25050913

>>25050776
No, you only proved how new you are twice as hard as you did before by using a newfag meaning of a term you know nothing about, about an industry you know nothing about.
The fact you think "superchats" are a facet of the industry was enough alone. kek

>> No.25051070

>>25050367
Nta but don't normals ruin everything they touch?

>> No.25051073

>>25050367
You're not half as smart as you think you are, anon. You can't even understand a simple post.

>> No.25051159

>>25051070
That's my point. Vtubing was already "ruined" before it even had a name.
>>25051073
Okay alientard. Stay on your site and take the rest of your kind back with you.

>> No.25051178

>>25028862
what's a PL

>> No.25051274

>>25048307
oh oh oh big yikes, HOLY SHIT take your meds Holobronie

>> No.25051314

>>25050913
Are you really arguing that normals didn't take over vtubing? Top tier bait. Too bad not many are biting. Try making a thread next time.

>> No.25051392

>>25051314
No, I am stating that they were always here in the first place, long before you ever heard of them, and probably longer than you've been on this fucking site.
Corporate is a minority of a minority of vtubing. And ones that aim specifically at otakus are an even smaller minority. (although, as with any otaku hobby, also make the most money)

>> No.25051827

>>25050878
Yeah, that's what I meant. I usually stream for fun and in a couple of months I might get $100 from it so it's all good for me. Making it a full time job is pretty hard and you'll just burn yourself out.

>> No.25051926

>>25036420
>8
Someone should fix that

>> No.25052199

>>25051392
So you're that type. Carry on.

>> No.25052275

>>25051827
It's nice when a hobby can make any amount of money. It's like someone else is saying, "it's ok to do this." It's great.

>> No.25052428

>>25030151
Rent free

>> No.25052434

It's a shock to me why people liked her. She seems really off putting.

>> No.25052468

>>25037335
>Subaru asking for more gachikoi in a stream
>It's cover's fault cause yes
Nigga she wants them mentally ill faggots, I love my shuba but she did this to herself. Many holos know what could happen with the gachis and refrain from doing that stuff, they can easily not give a fuck like matsuri, Towa, fubuki, etc.

>> No.25052904

>>25052468
Yeah, I'm sure Matsuri and Towa are lacking gachis because they want to and not because they repeatedly turned people off. The goal is to make less money, after all.

>> No.25052935

>>25037437
I hate n-word women

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