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>> No.25002068
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.25002236
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>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya
20) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,561 - Unarchived karaoke w/ Luca & Vox
21) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,534 - Cooking stream w/Vox
22) Miko (Hololive) - 51,105 - Return stream + announcement
23) Miko (Hololive) - 87,507 - WWE 2K22
24) Salome (Nijisanji) - 91,135 - Debut stream
25) Salome (Nijisanji) - 84,338 - Resident Evil 7
26) Axia (Nijisanji) - 31,685 - New outfit reveal

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
10x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Mio, Mysta, Pekora, Salome
1x: Aqua, Axia, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya

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>>25002236
2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
101x: Hololive
36x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
11x: Kuzuha, Miko
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Salome, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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>MAY 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 12,742 - React, Naver catchup + Project D
2) Jingburger (Isegye Idol) - 10,760 - React, Naver catchup + Valorant
3) Veibae (VShojo) - 14,811 - Summer costume reveal + MGR: Revengeance
4) Ironmouse (VShojo) - 11,883 - Surprise model reveal + Uno & Battleship
5) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 9,661 - React, Naver catchup
6) Nyanners (VShojo) - 10,772 - Easy Bake Oven cooking
7) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 21,889 - Poppy Playtime Ch 2
8) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 38,159 - Poppy Playtime Ch 2
9) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 15,300 - Poppy Playtime Ch 2
10) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 21,521 - Combat Maid VR
11) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,742 - Poker against the CEO
12) Shoto (Indy) - 15,704 - Labyrinthine with Niji EN
13) Ironmouse (VShojo) - 11,533 - Poppy Playtime Ch 2
14) Nimu (Indy) - 26,678 - Birthday Raid (12,613 before raid)
15) Jururu (Isegye Idol) - 35,570 - "Ju. T'aime" 3D live
16) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 17,256 - React, Naver catchup + Peglin
17) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 21,994 - React, Naver catchup
18) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 17,595 - Husky Naver catchup collab + VR Chat
19) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 12,814 - JK model MMD
20) Jururu (Isegye Idol) - 14,751 - Picking best anime Openings
21) Zentreya (VShojo) - 25,817 - New model re-debut
22) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,485 - React, Naver catchup
23) Ironmouse (VShojo) - 23,660 - IRL adventures in Japan with Connor
24) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 17,728 - Karaoke and VR Singing
25) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,658 - Zatsu, Naver catchup and Instagram DMs check
26) ZilverK (LA RATIZA) - 19,965 - VR Chat Raid Spree (5,254 before raid)

>PER COMPANY
17x: Isegye Idol
6x: VShojo
2x: Indy
1x: LA RATIZA

>PER STREAMER
5x: Gosegu
4x: Ine, Lilpa
3x: Ironmouse
2x: Jururu
1x: Jingburger, Nimu, Nyanners, Shoto, Veibae, VIichan, Zentreya, ZilverK

>> No.25002644

>>25002470
Man, this aqua is pure sex.

>> No.25002736

Predictions for Miko's Holofighter stream? Do you think she'll reach the magic 100k?

>> No.25002910

>>25002736
i agree with the anon that said jp audience seems to be getting tired, so 80k

>> No.25002941
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Desuwa!!

>> No.25002944

>>25002736
94k
100k is still kinda hard unless mio is there as co-commentator

>> No.25003003

>>25002736
I think 70k

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>>25002941
Desuwa deez nuts!

>> No.25003152

>>25002736
80k to 90K for me

>> No.25003199

>>25002944
All wrestlers are getting voice over'd by the girls. It's a large collab this time.

>> No.25003212

>>25003105
1k shitters arent allowed desuwa!!!

>> No.25003241

>>25003199
The fuck? Fr fr?
Then it'd be 120k ez

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This is complete and total bullshit. So Fauna can do a boring low energy tier list and get easy views but IRyS does the same and just simply gets fucked? How the fuck are people not tired of Kirby? How the fuck is IRyS and least not passing Fauna's stupid switch sport stream number 849485995

This shit isn't fair.

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>>25003105

>> No.25003283

>>25003251
aren't those great numbers for irys?

>> No.25003288
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>>25003251
Calm your bals irystotard

>> No.25003303

>>25003241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIF1wvNxVRw
Yep. She even put it in English in the title.

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>>25003283
Average, actually.

>> No.25003335

>>25002470
Seriously, vei and ironmaus costumes reveal defeated over isegye playing valorant?

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>>25003105
based treerat poster

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>>25003303

>> No.25003394

>>25003333
Those numbers are very solid. Why do faggots doom post so much?

>> No.25003398

>>25003345
why does she look chink? Is it the consequence of using too much bilibili?

>> No.25003440

>>25003303
Please Migo, you need to save us from Nijishitty's Chinese manufactured publicity stunt!!

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>>25003251
you know you deserved that irystokek

>> No.25003484

>>25003394
Because /#/ has a collective IQ of 50 when it comes to evaluating numbers

>> No.25003503

>>25003251
As an IRyStocrat the stream is a lot of fun but I'm just wondering why she is doing animals? Soda or even anime would be much more fitting for her.

>> No.25003525

>>25003335
Why are you surprise, anon?

>> No.25003550

>>25003251
anon, one is a more entertaining tier list than the other

>> No.25003633

>>25002736
No, people are bored of WWE already

>> No.25003646

>>25003503
Hololive is afraid of offending people

>> No.25003659
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Uh oh, IRyS is going to rank us!

>> No.25003666

>>25003646
>the one Kuzukneel to the rainbow flag

>> No.25003686

>>25003646
i can see burgers cancelling their memberships if she put sugar coke in the bottom tier where it belongs

>> No.25003731

>>25003646
I'm pretty sure Fauna offended a hell of a lot of people with her tier lists

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>>25003303
>>25002944
So holo needs a big collab to bring down one niji newbie now?
Sasuga oujou-sama raid boss

>> No.25003764

>>25003731
Then Mumei has no excuse for not doing history streams.

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>>25003749

>> No.25003777

>>25003686
The vtuber world would be better off without China and America.

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>>25003251
why so angry? was a good horse race for an hour

>> No.25003798

>>25003503
I'm going to be honest, I rarely have time to watch IRyS and only caught her today because I don't have work in the morning and as an outsider the stream really isn't fun

>> No.25003835

>>25003484
To be fair, that format is a novelty for IRyS and should be a buff in general, but people don't seem to be interested, which says a lot about the kind of audience that IRyS has.

>> No.25003839

>>25003792
wow

>> No.25003859

>>25003525
First, i misread. Thats may 2022 gold not today's gold. Also, i always thought vshojo dominating vtuber twitch market

>> No.25003896

>>25003792
Because he's a schizo who hates Fauna. He was bitching when Irys' switch sports didn't do as well as Fauna's either.

>> No.25003910

What went wrong with La+ original song that it's going to do worse than Fauna's?

>> No.25003924

>>25003859
Nah.. isegye has overtaken as of 2022

>> No.25003958
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imagine how irrelevant kronii would be if she had irys tier live2d
imagine how hard irys would've inclined if she had wada's big boobas

>> No.25003989

>>25003910
This timeloop is boring now.

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>>25003770
Doesn't change the fact it's pathetic for hololive to need a collab to complete with niji stream now

>> No.25004009

>>25003910
First of all, it’s not a good song even if you compare it to other JP orisongs

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Remember this when Migo hits 100k tonight. One of the best stories in the history of vtubing and somebody who was born to be a vtuber and stuck with it like a trooper. Not some professional voice actress hired as a publicity stunt.

>> No.25004045

>>25003910
Fauna shilled hers on multiple streams and on twitter, Lap didn't. simple

>> No.25004048

>>25004005
you used this bait already

>> No.25004060
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>>25003958
cope more irystokek. Your whore will never be popular

>> No.25004074

>>25003910
Fuck you, Fauna kept hard shilling her shitty song and begging people to watch. La+ made a mistake in her release. She'll pass Fauna's garbage eventually.

>25003896
Fuck you

>> No.25004152

>>25004038
Versenbros.... There's hope

>> No.25004157

>>25004038
I hope she will fail to get 100k tonight so that I can shit up this thread

>> No.25004182

>>25004038
sasuga migo

>> No.25004191

>>25004157
>not wanting big numbers
brain damage

>> No.25004218

Niji sis if miko beat that VA tonight! I don't want to be shame day after day after day. Why we always lose? We used to be No.1....

>> No.25004253

>>25004218
Migo is the queen of slips though. She literally just slipped today and lost gold by like 100 viewers, lol.

>> No.25004267

You know, after going to ACen, I feel rather lucky that people don't do this much baiting outside of this thread.
Anyone going to Anime Boston this weekend? I hope you can take a few pics.

>> No.25004319

>>25004267
>ever leaving house

>> No.25004344

>>25004253
She got 6 gold this month the highest already sis. You say that but 90% of the time she always win.

>> No.25004415

>>25004344
I get it, its just that today's slip really pissed me off. I'm a 35p and am enjoying seeing Miko rack up golds this month and that Niji fucker peaked like 100 above Miko and then immediately crashed several thousands viewers, like immediately. It actually made me mad.

>> No.25004471

>>25004415
I don't want to lose to miko again help me.

>> No.25004478

>>25004415
If this is botting, then Nijisanji is perfecting it already. There is no way they will lose to Hololive at this point. Just get the numbers over the top Holo stream and done.

>> No.25004508

>>25004344
>>25004415
Alright stop right there before watamage hear you guys

>> No.25004522

>>25004415
This thread should tell you how desperate Nijis are to push numbers. They don't actually watch them. They just want to be able to say they're better.

>> No.25004633

>>25004415
I saw that in real time and it was fucking gay as fuck. Miko deserved gold for today.

>> No.25004643

>>25003910
because holoX is more of a failure than council

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I've been slowly hard-translating Anycolor's financial statements and I thought this was a hilarious segment proving that the Chinese and SEA audiences are worthless.
Until you realize the reason USA is so high is all YouTube revenue counts as USA because Google, likewise all merch sales count as Japan because Sony/Booth.

>> No.25004730

>>25004522
Nijimales probably wont even be top 20 in monthly vod tally. The only real health indicator outside daily ccv shitposting.

>> No.25004780

>>25004471
It's okay sis, i'm fine being no. 2 loser.

>> No.25004892

At the very least Kronii will beat that useless green bitch once IRyS ends or goes into sc reading, even

>> No.25004930

>>25004009
I don't think the thumbnail helped either, if you just scroll through it randomly you would think it's just another stream
But what do I know.

>> No.25004942

>>25004732
does virtuareal actually have good numbers on billi though?
probably won't see much change until we have the luxiem numbers

>> No.25005007

>>25004415
That's not so strange for an outfit reveal stream. People hang around to see it and thousands of tourists fuck off immediately after they see it. Happens every time, even with Holomem.

>> No.25005101

>>25004732
Link the statements?

>> No.25005163

>wants to keep abusing tier lists
Irys is retarded

>> No.25005173

>>25004415
You're not 35p if you only here for numbers, pagpagfag

>> No.25005226

>>25003251
law of the jungle

>> No.25005268

Can't wait for Salome's first song and cover to mog the shit out of music holotubers like irys and watame

>> No.25005283

>>25004633
It's understandable. It was a collab with 4 different POVs. Even Pekora lost the gold the day when she was in the EDF collab

>> No.25005321

>>25004152
Yeah, for TunaMayo

>> No.25005329

>>25004942
As I said, it's by the company that they're partnered with, so Luxiem merch bought in the official store is Japan regardless of where it's being shipped, Luxiem audience watching and SCing on YouTube is USA regardless of if they're using Taiwanese VPNs.
The "Other" area in the chart >>25004732 actually includes "overseas VTuber business" which means all of VirtuaReal, Niji ID, Niji KR since at the time of the statement those two still existed. Niji EN is managed by Anycolor and as such would be under their main sales areas.
>>25005101
ctrl+f anycolor https://www.jpx.co.jp/listing/stocks/new/
https://www.jpx.co.jp/listing/stocks/new/nlsgeu000006da6d-att/06ANYCOLOR-1s.pdf
enjoy 150 pages of moonrunes

>> No.25005344

>>25004005
Doesn't change the fact that Nijisanji need to Collab everyday to beat Hololive.

>> No.25005374

>>25005268
why are you comparing to the worst music holos instead of Suisei/Mori? Irys and Watame are weak in numbers, a very low bar

>> No.25005426

>>25005268
>Implying a professional VA who is doing this as a part time gig is going to take the time to release songs
Very optimistic

>> No.25005494

>>25005374
Stop samefagging.

>> No.25005505

>>25004267
I hate that I work weekends... I could have grabbed my bike and sped all the way there.

>> No.25005523

>>25005374
Because he wouldn't be posting anything if he did.

>> No.25005606

>>25003503
Can’t use copyrighted images it has to be stock photos

>> No.25005674

>>25003503
copyright bullshit
same reason Coco had to buy the rights to stock images redditors used in their memes and had to avoid everything that wasn't completely redrawn if it used a TV show or movie

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>>25005606
But Bae

>> No.25005693

>>25005606
This shit is why you base your entertainment businesses out in the US where fair use laws actually work.

>> No.25005712

>>25004415
most important thing is Miko inclined hard
nobody would have predicted she get 31k, that's 24k at best if it was few weeks ago
she beat Pekora's record I'm happy with it

>> No.25005783

>>25005344
>Niji need to collab to beat Holo
>Salome solo mogging Holos at 12 in the morning
Desu wa

>> No.25005896

Post better bait.

>> No.25006009

>>25005896
Why post good bait when shitty bait gets as much (You)s

>> No.25006110

>>25005691
>anime
you can find thousands if not millions of anime contents/memes on YT without the publishers taking any action

>> No.25006160 [DELETED] 

Did we just had 3 days in a row with gold and EN gold going to Nijisanji?

Is that why the threads have been relatively calm the last couple of days (except while Salome streams)?

>> No.25006199

>>25006160
Which timeline did you came from

>> No.25006220

>>25006110
Yeah but Cover is a)super paranoid after the HoloCaust and b) big enough you could sue and actually get some money out of them

>> No.25006410

>>25006160
Are you retarded, anon?

>> No.25006475

>>25000000
numbers check

>> No.25006485

>>25005329
Thanks for posting this, I'm skimming it now but have you come away with any interesting findings so far?

>> No.25006565

>>25006220
well do you wonder why she's just showing characters of an old af animes? management would have stopped her to stream that but as you see even the VOD is still up

>> No.25006612

>>25006475
/#/ gets the number, and a bunch of angry faggots saying wasted.

>> No.25006631

>>25006565
Just how long do you think copyright lasts?

>> No.25006686

>>25005329
If only I did my reps

>> No.25006694

Cannot tell who's false flagging and who's serious in this thread. Really wish mods would ban obvious bait or posters so dumb they might as well be posting bait.

>> No.25006730 [DELETED] 

>>25006199
>>25006410
are you, holoniggers, retarded?
did getting humiliated 3 days in a row fucked up your brains?

>> No.25006775

do your archive reps

>> No.25006800

Ame just said she'd be busy for a few days in mid june. Some project?

>> No.25006811

>>25006730
Holo won this month, nijiniggers

>> No.25006848

>>25006800
If anything she might be helping Gura(June 20) and Kiara(July 6) with their birthdays. Probably a 3D live

>> No.25006903 [DELETED] 

>>25006199
>>25006410
>>25006811
Here, holonigger, let me refresh your memory.

>GOLD
24) Salome (Nijisanji) - 91,135 - Debut stream
25) Salome (Nijisanji) - 84,338 - Resident Evil 7
26) Axia (Nijisanji) - 31,685 - New outfit reveal

>EN GOLD
24) Ike (Nijisanji) - 11,947 - Unpacking
25) Vox (Nijisanji) - 12,817 - Resident Evil 7
26) Vox (Nijisanji) - 16,596 - Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes w/Shoto

Is today gonna be the 4th day in a row?
Gold is secured from Nijisanji already, let's see if they can surpass Gura's stream for the EN gold, too.

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Amelia mentioned taking a couple extra days off around June 10th or so and again at the End of June/Early July. I know Ina took her 1 month break knowing she would be busier after she got back so she took the opportunity to decompress and touch grass before whatevers coming up in a month. Wonder whats going on

>> No.25006948

>>25006903
You need to jog your memory beyond 3 days.

>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya
20) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,561 - Unarchived karaoke w/ Luca & Vox
21) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,534 - Cooking stream w/Vox
22) Miko (Hololive) - 51,105 - Return stream + announcement
23) Miko (Hololive) - 87,507 - WWE 2K22
24) Salome (Nijisanji) - 91,135 - Debut stream
25) Salome (Nijisanji) - 84,338 - Resident Evil 7
26) Axia (Nijisanji) - 31,685 - New outfit reveal

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
10x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Mio, Mysta, Pekora, Salome
1x: Aqua, Axia, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya

>> No.25007061

>>25006948
AIEEE DON'T POST THAT HOLONIGGERFAGGOT THE TRUTH HURTS AIEEEEE

>> No.25007077

>>25006903
I would be genuinely shocked if it isn't Miko gold today.

>> No.25007080

>>25006936
EN3

>> No.25007100

>>25006948
Nijiniggers have short term memory pls undastan

>> No.25007116 [DELETED] 

>>25006948
>holotranny still seething

>> No.25007183

>>25006948
Holofags clinging on to past victories.
You got mogged by Desu Wa 3 days in a row. Get over it

>> No.25007222 [DELETED] 

>>25006948
don't forget:

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR MAY

1. Luca (Nijisanji) - 36,567 (Unarchived Karaoke)
2. Mori (Hololive) - 24,044 (Chat & Introduction w/Mama Mori)
3. Shu (Nijisanji) - 14,353 (Birthday Zatsu)
4. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,772 (The Closing Shift)
5. Sara (PRISM) - 43,543 (Minecraft)
6. Kiara (Hololive) - 17,514 (Fasion Design Battle w/Ina)
7. Gura (Hololive) - 21,445 (Gorn)
8. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 14 044 (Voice Training! Collab)
9. Ina (Hololive) - 13,928 (Minecraft)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 16,164 (Happy's Humble Burger Farm)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 24,414 (Minecraft)
12. Kronii (Hololive) - 20,765 (Minecraft)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 41,544 (Off-collab)
14. Vox (Nijisanji) - 19,196 (Yume Nikki collab w/Ike)
15. Uki (Nijisanji) - 25,770 (Karaoke Relay)
16. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 25,289 (Mario Party collab w/Vox, Luca, Ike)
17. Baelz (Hololive) - 17,916 (Minecraft w/Gura, Ina, Mumei, Ame)
18. Gura (Hololive) - 19,754 (Taiko No Tatsujin)
19. Gura (Hololive) - 21,035 (Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion)
20. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,641 (Unarchived Karaoke w/Vox, Luca)
21. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,591 (Handcam Cooking w/Vox)
22. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 15,249 (Voice Training w/Uki, Selen, Reimu, Shoto)
23. Fauna (Hololive) - 19,777 (ASMR w/Kronii, Mumei)
24. Ike (Nijisanji) - 11,947 (Unpacking)
25. Vox (Nijisanji) - 12,817 (RE7)
26. Vox (Nijisanji) - 16,596 (Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes w/Shoto)

Hololive EN - 11
Nijisanji EN - 14
Prism - 1

>> No.25007223

>>25006948
>"Oh wow, Niji won the past 3 days", a completely true statement
>Holofag proceeds to move goalposts to entire month
figures

>> No.25007225

>>25006948
AIIIEEEEEEE NIJI HAS YET TO WIN A MONTH DON'T SHOW THIS ANON

>> No.25007240

>>25007183
>24) Salome (Nijisanji) - 91,135 - Debut stream
>25) Salome (Nijisanji) - 84,338 - Resident Evil 7
>26) Axia (Nijisanji) - 31,685 - New outfit reveal
Is Axia a new name for Salome?

>> No.25007270

>>25007183
And Nijisanji got mogged 8 days in a row

>> No.25007274

Why are you responding to someone obviously larping as a nijifag?

>> No.25007306

>>25007274
There's nothing better to do
I doubt anyone here actually watched Salome

>> No.25007347

>>25007270
That's nice, we're talking about the past 3 days here, stop changing the subject

>> No.25007351

>>25007274
cause its 2am, niggas morbing

>> No.25007409

>>25004038
>Not some professional voice actress hired as a publicity stunt
If Hololive was the one doing it you hypocrite cucks would be celebrating it, lmao.
Honestly though, I wonder why no one is hiring celebrities. Nijisanji has a lot of connections and Hololive is also well known nowadays, they defenitely can get people that would make their popularity explode even more as long as they're permissive enough with them.

>> No.25007492

>>25007409
Yagoo wouldn't be able to saviourfag a celebrity.

>> No.25007493

>>25007274
Im bored and nijinigger need a reminder that holo win this month

>> No.25007504

>>25004522
Wow, the irony. This is a nice bait or a damn newfag.

>> No.25007558

https://www.jpx.co.jp/listing/stocks/new/nlsgeu000006da6d-att/06ANYCOLOR-1s.pdf
IPO report

>> No.25007613
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25007613

>>25007351
Kek

>> No.25007710

>>25007409
>hiring celebrities
The same reason why Sana failed in this part, they aren't committed. Sana should've been replaced by someone else, now we have a girl who only does kirby/normal gaming streams instead of drawing streams and then there's bae and kronii, who doesn't like to show their VA prowess. If I was in Bae's spot, I'd ask fans to create a 4koma scenario, and I'll voice it for weekly content.

>>25007558
>151 pages
>In JP
Summarize the important bits

>> No.25007721
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25007721

Im going to bed, hope i'll wake up right on time for migo kino. Dont shit the thread too much SEAnigtachi

>> No.25007818

MIKOELS vs SALONETTY

>> No.25007865

>>25007223
We all know thats not how it went.

>> No.25007886

>>25006485
Nothing huge. Compared to Cover, Anycolor had more sales but made less profit, due to higher cost of goods and administrative expenses. That's for year ending April 2021 for Anycolor and year ending March 2021 for Cover, so it's basically the same period.

Anycolor vs Cover
Sales:
7.6 B vs 5.8 B
Cost of Goods:
4.7 B vs 3.0 B
Gross Profit
2.9 B vs 2.8 B
General and Administrative Expenses
1.5 B vs 1.1 B
Operating Income
1.4 B vs 1.7 B

>> No.25007893

>>25003633
She pulled the Yagoo card too early

>> No.25007984

>deleted

>> No.25007992

>>25006948
Axia is botted because he's a male.
Salome is botted because she's a niji.

>> No.25008004

>>25007886
Where did you get Cover's number from?

>> No.25008010

>>25007710
VirtualReal already did that and the celebs could careless about streaming most of the times on bili

>> No.25008019

>>25007886
>Operating Income
>1.4 B vs 1.7 B
Any reason why Cover needs 3B more for operating income? This is the old one, right? Not 2021/2022?

>> No.25008036

>>25007077
Difficult, she'd have to break 95k in an hour, and whilst I'm certain she's going to get good numbers, desuwa's stream from midnight counts to today and will be hard to top. Her last WWE streams all peaked in the 2nd hour after all.

>> No.25008044

>>25007984
good riddance

>> No.25008046

>>25008019
>3B more
Anon...

>> No.25008074

>>25008019
That is from last year

>> No.25008100

>>25003633
Hahaha you sure? you already said this before her WWE stream few days ago. And yet her viewers keep getting higher and higher every stream

>> No.25008135

>>25007710
I meant actual celebs, but you're right, I guess they'd be even worse.

>> No.25008151

>>25008036
Miko is getting 3D stream numbers later. 125k minimum

>> No.25008228
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25008228

>>25008004
From JP business databases, it's paywalled for 500 yen but also was leaked for almost a year now. Due to the type of company Cover is registered as they must publish consolidated financial statements to a online database or newspaper yearly. Pic related is a rough translation.

>>25008019
Year ending March 2021 for Cover, so April 1 2020 to March 31 2021. We should expect 2022 statements at the start of June. Also, "needs"? "Has earned" would be correct.
I haven't dug into the exact reasons why Cover was able to turn 1.8 billion yen less in sales into 0.3 billion yen more in income.

>> No.25008283

>>25008151
Anon, her 3dLive isn't tonight though, it's just her WWE collab.

>> No.25008322

>>25008228
Anon, just look at the difference in costs for goods and expenses.

>> No.25008358

>>25008228
>500 yen
I'm surprised nobody here pay $4 for this year Cover financial statements

>> No.25008410

>>25008358
We've had the numbers for last year for a while now. I KNOW it's been brought up before, but we have a fuckton of newfags around, so....

>> No.25008412

>>25008322
I said I haven't dug into the specifics, not that I have no clue whatsoever. Unlike normal posting in this thread I like to back my # with solid facts.
>>25008358
It's not out yet. The law says statements yearly must be approved by the board within 3 months and then approved statements published. So there's quite a lag time from March 31 to publish date.

>> No.25008426

>>25008358
They're not published yet, anon. It's clearly someone from 5ch or here that pays and leaks.

>> No.25008448

I’m surprised this thread is so wary of WWE getting numbers today. It’s both WWE and a full scale holo collab involving some pretty big names.

>> No.25008497

>>24993412
Getting more CCV than the debut is an indication of spread by word-of-mouth, which cannot be easily measured.

I'm a holo-only guy but I've watched all 3 of her streams so far, and the only live one I missed was the debut.

Niji tourists alone won't give you these numbers, but niji tourists + V Tourists + holo tourists whose Oshis are on a break will.

The holo tourists will enjoy her and probably go back to their oshis once they come back and/or the ojousama novelty runs out.

The Niji tourists... might actually stay, since most other nijis don't compare to her level of entertainment.
She has a good chance of keeping the V Tourists as well.

Oh, and all of this only applies to JOPs since EOP retards can't understand most of her humor, and will be the first tourists to dip.

I expect her CCV to hover around 80-90k for the first week. It will eventually fall down to maybe 20k or so, but the slope of the fall can be delayed if she keeps being interesting.

>> No.25008498

>>25008358
Why? We already know are bleeding money because of Yagoo's vanity projects

>> No.25008505

>>25008448
Most of people are baiting and falseflagging, however some people really have doubts because it's going to be a 1h stream (the others peaked after 2h) and even if she's been inclining in all her streams there is always the small doubt of how high the peak is

>> No.25008514

>>25003251
These are her usual numbers. Council girls (I'm counting IRyS with them) are extremely stable.

>> No.25008518

Any interesting streams this afternoon?

>> No.25008534

>>25008412
Fair enough. There are a few things we can consider though, that are facts
1. Cover merch is Made to order, and as such excess stock isn't an issue for them
2. A lot of their extra merch stuff was done in partnership, like the Donki dolls and whatnot, which means that their cut is probably lower, but their costs are minimal as well.
3. Since that's from the year 2021, Cover was still in FULL HIRING MODE, hence the lower General and Administrative expenses. This year's report will likely show a marked increase on that front due to all the new hires they've done in the past year.

>> No.25008557

>>25008518
Migo's WWE trying to beat Salome's 94k and after that, Salome streaming again

>> No.25008561

>>25008283
Yeah I mean her WWE collab will be getting a 3D stream numbers (aka big numbers)

>> No.25008571

>>25008036
I'm thinking that because it's a Friday night and a 9 members collab that she honestly could crack the 100k mark where she couldn't crack 90k on a Monday night by herself. It also looks like she doesn't plan to spend time in character creator today which is where her numbers always dipped before. Will be very interesting to see how this horse race plays out. Never before have we had such stiff competition for such insane numbers.

>> No.25008578

>>25008534
The other part of it is Nijisanji doesn't run their own store, they buy the service from Sony Music Solutions. That could potentially cost them more than what Cover does in-house.

>> No.25008593

>>25003749
> Semen image
> shit bait post

Without fail

>> No.25008633

>>25008505
>because it's going to be a 1h stream
She never said it's going to be only a 1h stream. Her watchalong is at 23JST she could postpone it for 30 minutes to get a 2 hours collab.

>> No.25008721

>>25008557
That’s during evening in JP. I’m talking about right now from 12pm to 6pm jst

>> No.25008780

>>25007886
Thanks for sharing. At the end of the day, these are the real numbers that matter.

>> No.25008825

I hope one of you faggots is collecting all the Salome gloat posts for a massive grudgepost.
or else I will

>> No.25008916

>>25008228
>$233,000 executive pay
wow between CEO and CTO that kind of sucks honestly

>> No.25008917
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25008917

>thread peaceful after just 1 guy gets banned
mods...gods...

>> No.25008955

>>25008916
Suck as in how? Pay is bad or pay is too much?

>> No.25008976

>>25008825
>grudgepost against solo stream with a big collab
oh, how the mighty have fallen

>> No.25009021
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25009021

It's that time again

>> No.25009032

is this true? or is it bait to make me watch the cover again?
>>25008934

>> No.25009115

>>25009032
lost 3k from what i have cached 102k -> 99k
dunno if anyone else is keeping track

>> No.25009125

https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1530070557164978176
Anyone know the current number of full set sales?

>> No.25009133

>>25008955
There are kids fresh out of undergrad that make more than 116,000

>> No.25009139

>>25008976
His ego was shattered after the mogging Salome gave him for 3 consecutive days. Can't wait for the cope post when Salome inevitably gets multiple 100k+ ccv streams in a row

>> No.25009153

>>25008955
It's very low. Yagoo and his CFO are getting about 115k a piece.

>> No.25009154

>>25008036
>in an hour
Anon?

>> No.25009176
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25009176

Do you think he can pull it off?

>> No.25009221

>>25009133
Keep in mind that Yagoo is probably majority shareholder so his net worth is much higher, he only needs to draw down what he actually lives on, keeping it in the company is the smarter move anyway. It's a trap to be drawing too much of your companies capital for personal use.

>> No.25009223

>>25009176
Considering both Council's slow growth now, and Mumei herself going on break, he most definitely will

>> No.25009269

>>25009176
>Mumei on break now
Retard.

>> No.25009272

>>25008916
My guess is he has some very nice equity rewards, plus probably a good ownership % if not majority like Riku has.

>> No.25009277

>>25009133
>>25009153
YAGOO had to take a pay cut over the Taiwan yab and the closing of HoloCN.

>> No.25009282

council will be stuck at sub 1m for years unless another boom happens

>> No.25009317

>>25009133
>>25009153
The unit is in 1000yen, so it would be 233m yen or about US$1.8m

>> No.25009323

>>25009133
Man, why did I have to be born in a third world country?

>> No.25009331

>>25009221
well said.
>>25008228
paging accountant, anon—how much of Cover does Yagoo own?

>> No.25009347

>>25009125
No limiited sets so no numbers.

>> No.25009349

>>25004074
Average holooks fan unable to cope with loving the Council of japan

>> No.25009393

>>25008228
>Insurance 0
Huh?

>> No.25009404

>>25009282
deservedly so, they should work for their 1m like the JPs. Unfortunately they don't care.

>> No.25009416

>>25009317
around $900k each for both the CEO and CFO then?

>> No.25009465

>>25009317
>>25009416
to refer to the actual sheet, 23,320 times 1000 is only 23 million yen, not sure on currency conversion but in USD it's more like 200k than 2 mil

>> No.25009475

How well does Ame's BONK on TikTok perform?
As a general vtuber standard, not Hololive(they don't really care about TikTok).

>> No.25009512

>>25009317
wrong lol

>> No.25009520

>>25009465
oh I'm retarded then. Nevermind.

>> No.25009583

Whys Mumei's new song performing so poorly?

>> No.25009653

>>25009317
At 23,320 at 1000 per unit is 23,320,000 JPY or ~183,751.11 USD
They definitely have a shit ton of equity as execs, but it's worth nothing until they go public
Yagoo is living like a normal middle class salaryman with the talents making way more than him
I remember Coco confirming on stream that she makes more than Yagoo too

>> No.25009685

>>25009583
Retard.

>> No.25009694

>>25009685
>only 100k

>> No.25009725

>>25009583
I dunno how well it's doing, but I just gave it a lesson and it barely sounds like her and isn't a very interesting song, at least in my opinion.

>> No.25009731

>>25009653
lmao Yagoo giving them all the money because he's such a saviourfag, he's gonna be a homeless CEO. I bet the stars make more than him.

>> No.25009753

>>25009331
Impossible to tell. They've had 3 funding rounds with 8.7 million USD in capital raised, last one was in 2020.

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/cover-corporation/company_financials

That's peanuts compared to their revenue, which was almost 50 million USD according to those financials posted so the first investors have gotten some amazing returns, the company itself is worth at least 100 million USD right now. I don;t think it's worth it for Yagoo to even bother taking Cover public at this point, he's raking cash in hand over fist and has more than enough to fund any project he wants to undertake without diluting ownership any more.

>> No.25009756

>>25009404
Council has out streamed Myth this entire week.

>> No.25009772

Chichan gets 4k+ on Youtube while only 2-3k on twitch but still streams on twitch every once in a while. Am I missing something?

>> No.25009774

https://youtu.be/iR9xShsBK1U
>releases some teaser without prior announcement
I get that it’s just the teaser but jesus fuck kiara, why are you like this

>> No.25009834

>>25009756
>while Ina is on break and Mori is busy doing work that Council would never be able to do
nice cherrypicked timeline

>> No.25009857

>>25009834
Cope

>> No.25009909

>>25009753
When was the hiring ad for -IPO consultant- or whatever that position was that indicated that Cover was looking to go public for funding?
If it was prior to late 2020, that would have been before Cover really blew up and would thus make sense as to why they were looking at it as a possible solution for funding for future projects.

>> No.25009921

Apparently youtube's raid list is broken and anyone can raid someone else since Ame got raided by a 2 view called Aka Mana ch for..no views really.

>> No.25009958

I got bored and tried numberfagging the site's 'x' Million GETs starting from 10M just to see whether board activity has changed much.

>>9000000 Aug 31
>>10000000 Sep 19 (+19)
>>11000000 Oct 7 (+18)
>>12000000 Oct 26 (+19)
>>13000000 Nov 14 (+19)
>>14000000 Dec 3 (+19)
>>15000000 Dec 12 (+9)
>>16000000 Jan 7 (+26)
>>17000000 Jan 24 (+17)
>>18000000 Feb 9 (+16)
>>19000000 Feb 24 (+15)
>>20000000 Mar 11 (+15)
>>21000000 Mar 25 (+14)
>>22000000 Apr 8 (+14)
>>23000000 Apr 24 (+16)
>>24000000 May 10 (+17)
>>25000000 May 27 (+17)

Board activity has definitely gone up from 6 months ago.

>> No.25009967

>>25009921
that increased ame's ccv to 20 percent atleast

>> No.25010035

>>25003731
pretty sure most of them were just playing along with the joke.

>> No.25010040
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25010040

Desuwa !!

>> No.25010050

>>25009909
sept 2020 iirc. not sure if they went through with it though

>> No.25010087

Minecraft collab

Moona 4.5k
Risu 2.3k

Good?

>> No.25010124

>>25010040
jesas that abrupt increase is insane

>> No.25010155

>>25010040
Basically December Chloe but on easy mode.

>> No.25010159

>>25010040
she already passed everyone

>> No.25010173

>>25007409
remind me again what exact same action with the exact same circumstances Cover and Anycolor have both taken which Cover got praised for and Anycolor got shit on for?

>> No.25010193

>>25010040
Selejo...

>> No.25010203

>>25009958
>2 gets in a row for #
we're inclining!

>> No.25010210

>>25010040
Redpill me. Why does she have so much hype? Did Any Color snag a famous seiyuu or something?

>> No.25010213

>>25010040
How would (You) save Ridunculus?

>> No.25010247

>>25010040
Connor was 100% right but people don't want to admit it.

>> No.25010252

>>25010040
Impressive bots.

>> No.25010268

>>25010247
watch streams
she's very entertaining

>> No.25010292

>>25010040
edengumi-bros...always gives me a good laugh that oliver is last when he has easy access to en

>> No.25010321

>>25009774
when is she releasing the full song?

>> No.25010358

>>25010087
good. nothing outstanding but still good.

>> No.25010374

>>25010210
solo debut and prank got people curious. Then high ccv attracted more people to check what she's about, which triggers youtube's algorithm

>> No.25010380

>>25010087
Yes, very good. Ignore Kobo's massive tourists, this is pretty much the incline the rest of ID grinded for.

>> No.25010385

>>25008448
It's one hour, which doesn't bode well for a good peak.

>> No.25010413

>>25010040
So is 100/100Rose magic real or are we looking at another case of Edengumi here? I remember people were clamoring around Leos and Lauren first week of streams before things went back to status quo.

>> No.25010414

>>25008976
oh no, not for today.
For 3 weeks from now when she's become yet another 5k niji.

>> No.25010429

>>25010210
No one still knows who she is, but people do say she is really interesting and entertaining. Personally I find it hard to watch her because of the frequent "desuwa~" 's, but the JP people seem to love it.

>> No.25010444

>>25010040
ojamashimasu desu wa ~

>> No.25010455

This is why salary hololive mem > Ceo or exclusive i find it in reddit

I just found out about hololive goods from lamy , The money used to produce the goods (only official not collab product ) comes from the vtuber pockets , not from the investment of cover. Of course, all profits after - the cost of goods will go to vtuber. Cover may be get marketing cost about 5-10% . Ex sold Acrylic Stand 1st anniversary 15$ - |2-3$|(cost acrylic) - 1$(Marketing) - 1-2$ (wage) - 2$( idk for corp or other ?)

7-10$ to pocket vtuber

of course in case of loss or overproduction vtuber will take all of risk

and they use this system in mv or song , about them money of view in song just sent to vtuber 100%

and they can freedom choose to produce or not, ex watame does not produce opai mousepad.
I think it's very strange , corp is very kind if u controlled production amount, it is very support vtuber , if in normally corp just sale goods and give share 10-20% to vtuber this is i think , <<<< this reason why luxiem have half anvs goods

Hololive >>> member rich
Niji >>>>> ceo exclusive rich

>> No.25010495

>>25010040
RUN CHIGU-CHAN RUN
SHE’S RIGHT BEHIND YOU

>> No.25010509

>>25010247
Do you expect anyone do know what you are referring to?

>> No.25010520

>>25010455
Everyone here knew this already

>> No.25010529

>>25010455
What kind of fuck up grammar is this?

>> No.25010556

>>25010529
Reads like deepl translated japanese

>> No.25010567
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25010567

was not here for 2 weeks and just came back but why does it seem like a celebrity just became a vtuber?? whats the effect and latest news on numbers?

>> No.25010568

>>25010455
worse than ESL, is this machine translated?

>> No.25010577

>>25009774
She had the song release on her schedule
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1528603258822049793

>> No.25010600

>>25010567
nobody knows we need to wait nad see if it dissapears or not.

>> No.25010602

>>25009583
>>25009694
watch it mog lamy × okayu's cover JPfags

>> No.25010608

>>25009774
Hate the chicken but love synthwave, what do

>> No.25010618

>>25010577
i hope she setup the actual premier with the teaser correctly
do a pre-release stream and raid it instead of doing after party stream

>> No.25010621

>>25010210
The numbers are purely from the JP side. Factors which aided in her rise include -

> Sudden announcement into debut within a week (the HoloX method).
> First Niji solo debut ever (focussed debut buff).
> Rampant speculation on whether this is a joke since Kanae mentioned he wanted to do something like this for his 1M subscriber, and Joe Rikiichi did an ojousama April Fools prank this year with a complete Live2D model.
> Debut --> Bunch of Niji tourists and general V Tourists tune in.
> Proper ojousama roleplay + wacky hijinks which are supposed to be Nijisanji's strength, but which very few of their livers actually take advantage of.
> Actual anime ojousama streaming instead of a normal streamer with avatar. Keeps her kayfabe up at all times, and has not broken character yet.
> Very entertaining both inside and outside of the game (very JP focussed humor, EOPs won't get a lot of the subtleties of her jokes, very similar to Kobo's ID jokes).
> Word of mouth spreads, there's a new talent in V town.
> Tons of holoJP on break, so plenty of holofans with not much to watch tune in for the novelty.
> Numbers beget numbers, and once she crossed the 60k mark, she gets into the Youtube algorithm and trending tab, leading to more viewers.

>> No.25010625

>>25009694
>only
i mean if mera mera is anything to go by ti can keep raking in views. tough to be honest mumei did little to advertise this one in comparision to her other 2 originals.

>> No.25010627
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>>25010040
These are Chloe's sub growth numbers. When do you guys think she will flatten? Or will she fly past 1M thanks to the momentum of 100k daily sub gain?

>> No.25010628

>>25010602
Keep dreaming retard

>> No.25010637
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>>25010495
It's already over

>> No.25010659

>>25010247
This is the literal opposite.
Edengumi got numbers because of tourists and the brand, but they weren't entertaining enough to keep them and became part of the nijisanji blob.
Salome's CCV went UP after her second stream, which is usually a sign of good word of mouth spread.
This is one case where talent is getting the numbers, not the brand.

>> No.25010661

>>25010455
Overproduction desn't make sense for hololive as thier goods are made to order and are shipped months later

>> No.25010706

>>25003835
tier list is not a buff content unless your name is kiryu coco

>> No.25010720

>eikawa lesson tomorrow with mori/sana/miko and roboco
2 1M and 2 runts

>> No.25010733

>>25010637
oh no, Selen and Elira are next.

>> No.25010734

>>25010247
>Connor
>being right
Doesn't he put a foot in every time he opens his mouth about a hot take?

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>>25010173
Would you like something related to recent conversations like how some were so proud of how much they were making in China until Taiwan happened?

>> No.25010855

>>25010621
So big hype + great debut + great personality = success

>> No.25010873

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHeccTvGu2o
Salome Euro Truck Simulator 2

>> No.25010871

When Pekora and Marine come back full force, it would be interesting to see how they fare against Salome.

>> No.25010889

>>25010455
Where is Japanese perspective anon? This definitely isn't you.

>> No.25010908

>>25010621
Factors for Salome's incline
1. HOLOCOPE
2. HOLOSEETHE

>> No.25010909

>3rd stream view gain rate starts to drop
Desuwa magic is starting to fade on VoD department...

>> No.25010912

>>25010720
wrong, 2M, 1M and 2 runts

>> No.25010932

>>25010871
next month seems like a strong month.
Both holojp and holoen coming out from breaks.
and probably something planned behinnd curtains.

>> No.25010948

>>25010873
>breaking the schedule on first week
didn't end up well for IRyS

>> No.25010953

>>25007409
Doesn't VirtuaReal have a whole thing where they turn chinese celebrities into Vtubers? Afaik it's more like a publicity stunt though.

>> No.25010965

>>25010873
This could actually be amazing

>> No.25010971

>>25010413
Treat it as she's getting 5 people's worth of debuts on herself on different days. IRyS grew faster than council for example
Judging by her subs and comparing them to her vod views, she still has a lot of tourists

>> No.25010985

>>25010873
This will be going up against Miko's 3D, if it somehow wins this thread will never recover desuwa

>> No.25010993

>>25010627
No idea. Nobody has pushed a big solo debut like this on the JP side.

>> No.25010999

>>25010720
>>25010912
Rbc and Sana are also the worst runts in their respective branches. they're the worst numbers poison.

>> No.25011012

>>25010618
She’s already confirmed it’s an afterparty

>> No.25011021

>>25010871
First of all, I need to see Salome's number when in a normal condition.
I can see she is at Lize's level at worst and Pekora's level at best

>> No.25011026

>>25010873
Holy shit I hope this will break 100k ccv

>> No.25011038

>>25010948
she's not breaking it, the schedule just said "a short game" on friday

>> No.25011040

>>25010855
>Big hype
maybe
>Great Debut
It was cringe as fuck with forced memes
>Great Personality
Totally wrong. Professional VA playing a forced role
>Success
Too early to tell but we know the history of females in Manjisanji

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>>25010628
it's inevitable whether you like it or not.
oops i dropped this picture

>> No.25011051

>>25010740
At least post 2-3 people with the same opinion, jesus. Most holofags were neutral but wary about China until they collectively sperged out.
Which is why we keep making fun of Luxiem who apparently have not learned any lessons from this (or haven't bothered reading up on this issue).
the nijicope list has better sources.

>> No.25011057

>>25010999
and mori and miko are good for numebrs on collabs so it balances out.
Seriously Mori and kaira, and bae to some extent, are literally the only bridge between JP and En right now. Next En3 better have a EN-JP chuba again.

>> No.25011063

>>25010948
How is she breaking her schedule? The game for today was not decided yet.

>> No.25011066

>>25010871
It's gonna be interesting how Salome fairs again fucking Polka or some other low tier holo anon, if you really think the tourists are sticking I got a bridge to sell you.

>> No.25011079

>>25010855
pretty much, yeah

>>25011040
> t. filtered EOP

>> No.25011088

>>25010873
This is the true test for her skill as a streamer. RE7 is a big tourist game and easy to react to, but if she can create gold out of this stream I'd crown her the new queen of JP.

>> No.25011097

>>25010909
The magic is slowly wearing off. She hasn't stabilized yet. We shall see where she lands on when the buff wears off: 10k streamer, 20k streamer or 30k streamer (Pekora, Miko, Subaru, King, Chinman tier)

>> No.25011106

>>25011040
why are you so mindbroken about niji having a successful and entertaining female?

>> No.25011109

>>25011040
How to prove you don't know Japanese in one post on 4chan. Good job, you did it!

>> No.25011111

>>25011040
filtered by the desu wa

>> No.25011113

>>25011079
More like filtered person with taste. I have never and will never watch a Nijishitty stream.

>> No.25011121

>>25010871
I have predicted that she will have a 20k floor once the buff runs out, and will continue to stand by that prediction.
She's their next Kuzuha, will get a bunch of viewers tuning in purely for her, but will not spread/funnel to anyone else in niji.

>> No.25011123

>>25011079
>t.Actual EOP
Retard.

>> No.25011125

>>25011040
>Big hype
>maybe
You're really stupid if you think that point is maybe. I haven't even watch her and with a few minutes of lurking noticed this.

>> No.25011153

>>25011113
I only watch Hololive for the most part but she's one of the most interesting case of Vtuber debut in a while. I'm not surprised if she can maintain her momentum like this.

>> No.25011169

>>25011049
any reason why her songs are underperforming or it's just normal in JP?

>> No.25011170

>>25010873
This one will definitely have my view

>> No.25011195

>>25010855
>>25010965
>>25010993
>>25011079
>>25011088
>>25011106
>>25011109
>>25011111
>>25011170
Could you paid shills be anymore obvious?

>> No.25011201

>>25010873
90k tops

>> No.25011203

>>25011169
Not a good singer
Also never had a singing stream

>> No.25011202

>>25011169
Name me a asmr vtuber with a good solo song.

>> No.25011221

>>25011153
>Claims to be Hololive fan
>Says a Nijinigger is interesting
How to admit you are a falseflagger without explicitly saying you are a falseflagger

>> No.25011223

>>25010873
85k give or taketh

>> No.25011225

>>25011169
she doesn't like singing, rarely if ever does karaoke.

>> No.25011229

>25011195
I feel this person wants to gaslight this place to think holofans are deranged

>> No.25011235

>>25010873
>live in 7 hours
>504 waiting
this girl is actually unstoppable

>> No.25011234

>>25011195
try not being an EOP for once

>> No.25011255

>>25011235
paid shill

>> No.25011270

Miko vs Salome
This is like the battle of the decade since Miko is the veteran while Salome is the hot new rising star.

>> No.25011274

>>25011221
nijilivers have not been interesting in the past two years, that's true.
which is why she's such a surprise.
try actually watching streams instead of graphs for once.

>> No.25011310

>>25011274
>livers
And the mask has come off

>> No.25011320

>>25011235
Meh, this is still going to be huge, but that waiting room is pointless, when Gura schedules her streams beforehand she usually gets higher even being 12 hours away, and then the stream stays in the 17-20k range

>> No.25011322

>>25011274
>nijilivers

>> No.25011336

>>25011057
>and mori and miko are good for numebrs on collabs so it balances out.
Miko, yes
Mori, heeee
Her last Eikawa with Choco, Mel and Fauna only did 10.9K

>> No.25011338

>>25010627
If she keeps up the daily streams and hype along with maintaining the roleplay, I could see her getting 1M within a month honestly.
More likely case is that she will stall at around 600k and growth will start to slow, but she will still reach 1M within 3 months.

>> No.25011340

>>25011270
>hot new rising star
More like manufactured Chinese publicity stunt using a professional VA

>> No.25011346

Will Miko actually have 100k+ stream back to back? Can someone shopped her face to the Atlas titan?

>> No.25011359

150k - 200k viewer is normally for holox debut time idk why u excited

>> No.25011374

Being a solo debutant and having only 1-hour long streams really helps with viewer retention.

>> No.25011382

>>25011229
Possible but a small number of them actually are deranged and this place attracts those like flies unfortunately

>> No.25011393

>>25011336
>Choco, Mel and Fauna
all 3 are numbers poison.

>> No.25011399
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>>25010740
There is a nuance that makes the full difference here and it is the change in stance by China towards the west (and vice versa) that started with the Hong Kong protests and got a lot worse due to the pandemics.
For the 20 years prior China and the West were attempting a rapprochement, with the entertainment industry leading the way, first with Kung Fu (Jackie Chan and Jet Li becoming western superstars amd bringing their movie industry with them) and culminating with Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon winning the Oscar in 2000 and being a smash hit.

Even at the internet, the chinese meme culture and the western meme culture was merging and lots of chinese produced memes (and games) were making their way into the west (like that Holotaker meme video combining Helltaker and Hololive).
But from mid 2020 forward, oh boy, if things didn't deteriorate between China and the west, SPECIALLY with the accusations of China having released the pandemics on purpose.
Hating China became one of the few things that were politically acceptable for both sides of the cultural divide and, conversely, Xi hardened his stance on the relationship between china and the west after the Hong Kong protests leading to an irreconcilable divide.

tl;dr: having any relationship with China (county, market and people) before and after 2020 is analogous the same with Russia before and after 2022.
Botan (and Nina) were praised for having lots of russians (and pandering to them) in their audience back then, but a new vtuber pandering to Russia today would be criticized.
Same thing for China and Nijisanji

>> No.25011401

are holofags actually the ones coping for once? So many rrats and delusion trying to deny that nijisanji finally has a superstar after 2 years of recline.

>> No.25011408

Nijisanji comeback in 2022 is something I didn't expect. Did they gain their own Watamage?

>> No.25011413

>>25011202
mori

>> No.25011415

Good lord, all her VODs reach 1 million views.

>> No.25011423

>>25011336
>choco and mel

i mean...that is an acomplishment. Also this one is on jp primetime not midday.

>> No.25011487

>>25011401
im a kobokerz and i admit that salome is interesting , and yeah gayxiem should go to hell

>> No.25011504

>>25011487
Cringe

>> No.25011508

>>25011487
>Claim to be a Hololive fan
>Say new Niji cunt is interesting
Falseflagger alert

>> No.25011525

>>25011408
>Nijisanji comeback
1 person doesn't mean a comeback. You still have hundreds of failures in the company

>> No.25011528

>>25011221
this is what tribalfagging does to a motherfcker

>> No.25011560

>>25011393
>>25011423
To make a comparaison, holotalk with JUST choco and fucking Kiara did 10K, Holotalk with Mel did 14K, and that's with fucking Kiara, Fauna isn't number poison, she's a buff, not a big buff, but a buff too

>> No.25011562

>>25011528
>Loyalty is now a bad thing
Sorry I'm not a flip flopping fence sitter like you

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>>25011525
>You still have hundreds of failures in the company
Not a problem
>ACCELERATE their graduations + merch

>> No.25011598

>>25011528
Stop falling for cheap bait and lurk more, that's a retard playing the most retarded caricature of a tribalfag to snag people like you

>> No.25011607

>>25011525
Success is success anon. Nijisanji has the funds to keep debuting quality members, unlike the slow ass Hololive

>> No.25011615

>>25011401
We'll see how long your superstar coasting on people being confused what her deal is lasts.

>> No.25011619

>SHE'S HORIE YUI

Can Nijisanji have a single good thing without massive amounts of Holocope?? Please.

>> No.25011631

>>25011607
>Quality
top kek

>> No.25011638

https://youtu.be/-ULkl-bBA5o
Ollie peak prediction?

>> No.25011644

I wouldn't be surprised if mods ban 1 guy again and 50+ posts are suddenly gone

>> No.25011656

>>25011638
if moon finiehses 3k

>> No.25011657

>>25011644
or just range ban philippinos altogether

>> No.25011669

>>25011638
2.8-3k

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>>25011638
People really doesn't enjoy her singing

>> No.25011718

Euro truck simulator gold?

>> No.25011726

>>25011718
Nah Miko outfit reveal gold tomorrow.

>> No.25011728

>>25011718
Fake and manufactured Chinese numbers gold

>> No.25011730

>>25010909
Nah, it will get faster again after japs comeback from work.

>> No.25011746

>>25011657
include kobokeks too

>> No.25011749

Remember the last time holobronies where coping with
>i-its debut buff
And now holoEN is dead in the water
Not it's turn for holoJP

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Premieres are recorded in vrabi now?

>> No.25011767
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>>25011221
>>25011508
>>25011562
It'd be so sad if this idiot actually thinks like this and isn't just shitposting.

>> No.25011775

>>25011359

Lol Laplus got #1 and #2 trending in twitter in her debut

>> No.25011776

>>25008578
How does riku got away from sony's evil clutch and find a better partner with better profit margin? I mean just look at the "quality" of their merchs. It's all either keychains or stands 90% of the time.

>> No.25011784

>>25011607
now there's the nijicope we all know and love

>> No.25011799

>>25011673
Or maybe she has dead subs thats all

>> No.25011803

>>25011767
I do think like that. It's called loyalty and it's a good trait to have. Maybe one day you Benedict Arnolds will learn the meaning of it.

>> No.25011814

>>25011202
Noel’s Homenobi is actually pretty good
Also, non-holo example but I really like this original from Patra
https://youtu.be/uC3ORIZfxdE

>> No.25011822

>>25011615
Pretty sure the "joke" phase already ended once Kanae denied it and official merch for her came out.
> i-it's a professional VA
> i-it's a joke
sounds like cope to me.

>> No.25011847

>>25011195
>>25011234
As one of the anons responded to, she's not very impressive. You're also both retarded.

>> No.25011858

>>25011822
Are you a new fag? This isn't the first time they sell joke merch.

>> No.25011863

>>25011822
that's what I'm saying, it's not like Covers hasn't been trying to get already stablished entertainers with millions of subscribers *cof cof* Gura *cof cof*
But somehow, if niji does it, it's wrong?

>> No.25011868

>>25011270
How is she a star? She had three streams, retard.

>> No.25011869

>>25011803
holofags aren't bootlickers like you mate, we have no qualms about criticizing the company and shitting on them if we think they're not doing the right thing (see: the China issue, Coco/Haachama suspension, first 24 hours past Coco;s graduation announcement).

>> No.25011872

>>25011619
Stages of holocope:
>it's a joke debut
>she is Kanae
>it's Tazumi
>someone from Nijisanji staff
>she will graduate after debut
>she will be gone after a week
>exists only for merch
>they hired a professional VA
>it's Yui Horie
>botted views
>debut buff
(YOU ARE HERE)
>Nijisanji sacrificed a firstborn and performed dark magic

>> No.25011886

>>25011822
>1hr streams
>the name pun
also isnt the first time they sell emrch of a joke.
is a wait and see

>> No.25011904

>>25011775
Wasn't she also trending? I'm pretty sure I saw her in Japan at least.

>> No.25011907

>>25011644
Would require the mods to actually do something.

>> No.25011915

>>25011749
When?

>> No.25011918

Ollie is speaking more of that disgusting language.

>> No.25011923

>>25011858
Riku merch is a joke that's obvious to everyone, and no one expected him to become a regular streamer or something.
> inb4 Lulu
potential buyers already know she's graduated.
Neither of them are falsely advertised.

>t-the merch is a joke too
more cope

>> No.25011929

>>25011799
this time in Indonesia still at school or work you don't know ??

>> No.25011931

>>25010040
TO THE MOON DESUWA~

>> No.25011942

>>25011915
when Luxiem debuted

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I just find Pekora's absence during Niji's strongest moment yet funny

>> No.25011962

>>25011644
I think some of the holofags here unironically took the tribalposting to heart and are actually coping now.

>> No.25011972

>>25011944
Desu wa is pekora without her fake voice? Just drop the peko and insert desu wa. It all makes sense now!

>> No.25011973

>>25011869
You criticize what you love because you love it. It's like being a sports fan. I am going to criticize my team when they are playing like shit and making bad moves because I want them to be better. What I'm not going to do is start watching their rival. We call those fair weather fans and they are derided in sports communities. Always remain loyal to your team.

>> No.25011974

>>25011944
At this point I'm pretty sure they knew

>> No.25011984

>>25011918
>Kobo
Its pretty self-explanatory why she's using more indo

>> No.25012003

>>25011973
> loyalty to entertainment providers
you don't need to do oshihen or something, but it's not really a big sin to watch someone interesting, especially if your oshi isn't streaming at the same time.

>> No.25012002

So is ID the only place that Hololive dominates?

>> No.25012041

>>25011942
Luxiem debut is not that great so holofags feels needed to use debut buff cope.
They use CN or bots cope instead because Luxiem rise is one-two month after its debut
If anything it's nijifags that use debut buff cope for Kobo

>> No.25012044

>>25011918
It's always gonna be funny how she ranted about Indos spamming "speak ID please" (was a genuine request, even if they went about it like regular thirdies would) and now has to slink back to them after shitting on them.
Just imagine the humiliation, and the vindication from the indogs.

>> No.25012048

>>25011973
That's what I'm saying, pretty sure most people shitting in Council are OG fans that KNOW what is possible, people that actually watch streams and see the landscape, why would nijiniggers bother complaining that Mumei is not streaming? They would literally applaud her and push her to keep taking breaks

>> No.25012063

>>25011973
And it is a 100% fact that indogs and flips are the biggest bandwagons in the world
e.g "lebron" fans

>> No.25012081

>>25012002
16 gold > 10 gold

>> No.25012089

Imagine /vt/ having flags like /int/...
A man can only dream I guess

>> No.25012099

>>25011202
https://youtu.be/uJyr6V8W5JA

>> No.25012115

>>25012081
Hey, wait next month anon. It would be a shame if Salome gets higher CCV than Marine or Pekora.

>> No.25012119

>>25012044
I wonder how the indogs reacted to the rant, must've been rightfully pissed

>> No.25012151

>>25012115
she will since marine and pekora are not streaming next month

>> No.25012153

>>25012115
It's only going to get worse as niji enters their annual summer buff.

>> No.25012154

>>25012115
Nijicope, next month will also be hololive

>> No.25012157

>>25010873
I don't know much about this game, is it just a disguised zatsudan stream?

>> No.25012170

>>25011399
Do weebs really care about that? I think it's just normies since China's bs was already well known before that.
As a fan one should be happy for them if they get money, doesn't matter where they got it from. Botan could go and kill any of the 3 world leaders or burn my flag and I'd love her even more.

>> No.25012185

Jesus christ ollie you're bad.

>> No.25012187

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy1Z3xX07OU
Looks like there is an important announcement

>> No.25012202

>>25012170
yeah it make influence on the viewers people want it or not.

>> No.25012220

>>25012187
it's just another song nobody cares

>> No.25012256

>>25012119
reading comprehesion reps please..
illeterate fuck..

>> No.25012262

>>25012187
Major announcement at the same time as Miko. Oof, right in the numbers.

>> No.25012273

>>25011918
Karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbyQaZZMDkM

>> No.25012318

>>25012262
fatto catto, stop baiting just to shill your songs, tonight is Migo's night

>> No.25012342

>>25012256
The fucking irony of this post is off the charts

>> No.25012377

Anon, I have a question: If Nijisanji wants to build their own box, does that mean the company has to dismantle their current structure?

>> No.25012386

>>25010659
Right. She definitely would have 90k solo streams if she debuted as a totally unknown indie without corpo backing. For sure.

>> No.25012388

>>25011202
Ogayu

>> No.25012423

>>25012262
No one will watch the announcement.

>> No.25012489
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Everyone is busy with Salome and Miko but there are three debuts today from Sony's new vtuber group
20JST Ruki Otokado
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAUicVZlApAIhcdL9df3gWw
21JST Hinahoshi Airu
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJGQPbaqTY91JhVzD8gIZyw
22JST Tulsi-Nightmare Madness IV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg1vFoXAaOU

>> No.25012496

>>25012423
Exactly. Its bad for Okayu, not Miko. She chose a bad time to be shilling something.

>> No.25012524

>>25012489

Any expected reincarnations?

>> No.25012547
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25012547

How is youtube's "most replayed" feature going to affect number crunching in the future?

>> No.25012559

>>25012170
Anon, the world doesn't work the way you imagine it does. You can be part of an in or an out group depending on the actions that you take and the people you associate with. It's why corporations tend to distance themselves from controversy often, unless they are force to make public statements, and most of those are clearly released by PR after being vetted by the legal department.

Would you be okay if your chuuba was funded by drug/trafficking money from the Yakuza? Of course not, and that would be enough to sink a company (irrespective of how based you might think it is). The same can be said of associating with China and Russia who have very publicly violated other people's human rights or caused disasters (not unlike the US and the EU, but they're smarter about it), or even trivial groups like kpop stans, degenerates or even anonymous groups like 5ch and 4chan.

Any publicity might be considered good publicity, but not every success is "good success", so to speak...

>> No.25012558

>>25012524
There is quite a lot of JP indies graduation in the last year so maybe?

>> No.25012575

Will we ever get a major corpo streamer that does react content or live news content like following the Depp vs Heard trial? That kind of shit gets huge views with normalfags and is a relatively unexplored niche in the vtuber community. Basically we need a dramafag vtuber like Korekore.

>> No.25012603

Ok salome is very grown , but you know have nijisanji member morethan 150 member have view in live stream 20-500 plz support them

>> No.25012604

>>25011944
It's almost as if she was the keystone that seal Niji power all this time

>> No.25012611

>>25012489
>Sony
nobody cares
except the last one I would laugh my ass off if someone manage to bot her to 20k

>> No.25012612

>>25012119
back then there weren't that many regular indogs watching, most of them were middle class indons with good English grasp.
These guys of course hate the "street indogs" if you will, because of their behavior and because they refuse to learn English. And they were Ollies' majority audience (even if she was making rounds in ID net spheres due to her debut).
The rant was supported by these upper class indons (and EOPs), which were most of her audience. That pretty much cut her off from a large part of the ID-speaking audience, who she was sort of gaining ground with.

Ollie's problem will always be that she just can't shut her mouth when someone's trying to get a reaction from her.

>> No.25012624

>>25012575
lol
lmao no
fuck normalfags

>> No.25012641

>3.5h to go
>only 1.2k waiting
Oh no...

>> No.25012655

>>25012489
Any of their chuubas above 2view rank so far?

>> No.25012666

>>25012170
weebs and holofags didn't care, yes. And like mentioned in previous posts, chinese memes with holos were gaining a lot of ground among EOPs, like this one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLRw99YJGLQ

Until of course, they collectively decided to sperg out over Taiwan at Bilibili's behest. That and the subsequent wheelbarrows completely soured holofags (and VTuber audience in general) to the Chinese audience.

>> No.25012676

>>25012575
Biggest obstacle with those kind of content are copyrights anon. Twitch streamers were getting into a debacle with it a while ago (and got away with it)

>> No.25012680

>>25012575
VShojo?
Also, you can't have the Japanese corpos do content like that because copyright

>> No.25012685
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25012685

>>25012489
she's going to be the only success because of /vt/ memes
no one will even know the rest are debuting

>> No.25012686

>>25012386
> Edengumi
read, nigger

>> No.25012697

>>25012655
Alba (the vsinger) is 3views. The rest are 2views.

>> No.25012702

>>25012575
I want numbers, but I am not so desperate that I would want to bring the worst type of audience into the industry. It's already bad enough with normalfags in anime with their retarded takes and opinions on things they know nothing about.

>> No.25012724
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25012724

>>25012489
>sony

>> No.25012737

>>25012575
>dramafag vtuber like Korekore
it already existed and now he's getting sued by multiple parties

>> No.25012741

>>25012575
majority of the VTuber audience started watching VTubers because they were tired of political bullshit and IRL issues being popped up in every single fucking entertainment media and were running out of places that had pure escapism.

Any chuuba going back to normalfaggotry will filter both VTuber audience (who don't want to watch IRL dramashit) AND the normalfags (wtf anime weebs eww) and remain a 2view for eternity.

>> No.25012767

>>25012575
This is the same mindset that caused the NijiIN branch to open.

>> No.25012769

>>25012724
What even happened to her? She got me into vtubing and then I stopped hearing anything about her several years back.

>> No.25012777

>>25011202
Haachama

>> No.25012782

>>25012489
Why would anyone join Sony? Apply for holo/niji or go indie

>> No.25012786
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25012786

>>25012524
Bora please be >>25012685

>> No.25012792
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25012792

>>25012575
>Basically we need a dramafag vtuber like Korekore.

>> No.25012803

>>25012769
she's in a better place
despite the rrats korekore been spreading about her and kizuna ai

>> No.25012819

>>25012575
pretty sure luto (PRISM) did a deep trial stream
also plenty of them on twitch

>> No.25012827
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25012827

>>25012769
>tldr
Sony fucked her over

>> No.25012830

>>25012782
Stepping stone company

>> No.25012841

>>25012769
Fucked by Sony
https://twitter.com/p_ma_ru/status/1443557297909682182
TL https://twitter.com/8AndAHalfTails/status/1443576900895449095

>> No.25012849

>>25012830
How many sony vtubers managed to get into nijisanji, vspo or hololive so far?

>> No.25012863

>>25012603
Nijisanji = kazuha kanae mito hoshikawa saku toya toko kai

>> No.25012871

>>25012782
Backed by one of the biggest companies in the world and you own your character? I can see why people are interested.
>>25012849
-1 if you believe the narrative

>> No.25012900

https://youtu.be/3kPwET0uwzQ

Some madlad actually went and asked Noel about all the recordings n shit happening. There's a few things here that might be interesting to your guys.

> Lot of stuff is planned well in advance, even by a year.
> Stuff that they are working on now have been in the running since 6months ago.
> Noel has projects/collabs planned for 2023 that are under preparation right now.

Even with all these gens, they're super busy. I'm guessing that in the future, with more and more gens coming out, they might move to a rotating cast system.
Chuubas treaming for 9 months, then a 3 months break, while those that were on break stream for those 3 months + the next 6 months etc.

>> No.25012909

>>25012769
She went back to her pre-sony identity and is now one of the more popular utaites.

>> No.25012919

I've always wondered, why do people enjoy matuli's rm more than matuli herself?

>> No.25012920

>>25012603
but I've been watching Chichan since yesterday

>> No.25012926
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25012926

>>25012900
*forgot pic
AAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.25012928

>>25012919
Muh forbidden knowledge

>> No.25012946

>>25012928
But the numbers on her rm channel are much much better than her actual channel, is it a rarity buff since she doesn't stream that often? It really puzzles me

>> No.25012979

>>25012871
>Backed by one of the biggest companies in the world and you own your character? I can see why people are interested.
lol

>> No.25012997

>>25012946
Don't forget that all Vtubers are midgets to fleshtubers

>> No.25013017

>>25012919
Her rm rarely streams unless there's another rm channel I don't know about

>> No.25013020

>>25012946
I've seen people talking about her roommate's streams but never watch her vtuber's streams. Same thing with Noel.

>> No.25013033

>>25010953
VirtuaReal Stars, yes. They have about 6 vtubers who were content creators before and then got support to become a vtuber

>> No.25013075
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25013075

>the absolute state of the catalog
Sorted by creation date, a Sora thread died for that

>> No.25013085

>Someone in Salome's waiting room is spamming "Googleさん、この配信ツール使ってないか検証お願いします"
>"Google, please see if this stream is using tools(bots, etc?)"
lmao

>> No.25013086

>>25012900
3months is too much

>> No.25013097
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25013097

what's this shit where you can see the other members in one's channel? can someone exploit this and check the members for each channel

>> No.25013107

>>25012946
There're less EOPs to cull her ccv on rm ch.

>> No.25013111

>>25012919
??
Just out of curiosity, what kind of numbers are we talking about here?

>> No.25013133

>>25013085
Pathetic.

>> No.25013148

>>25013085
the cope is leaking to jp as well i see

>> No.25013147

>>25013097
That's the latest members

>> No.25013153

>>25012666
>That and the subsequent wheelbarrows completely soured holofags (and VTuber audience in general) to the Chinese audience.
It wasn't just that.
After the events described at >>25011399 China "uncloaked" their strategy of "cultural domination" and started leveraging their control over segments of the mainstream media in the West to make demands.
NBA got flak for kotowing to them, one competitive gamer (don't remember the name) got flak for showing support for Hong Kong at their behest, then there was Coco and Haachama, Marvel got in trouble and had to pull out movies of their markets.

As I said: hating on China ended up becoming one of the few "bipartisan" things in the west after 2020.

>> No.25013160

A bit off topic but does anyone know at what time is the final verdict for the trial today?

>> No.25013165

>>25013147
It isn't because you always appear

>> No.25013174

>>25013086
They have year long projects ongoing, they're pretty big right now.
I guess they're diversifying their portfolio so they don't live and die with streaming.

>> No.25013183

>>25013165
I just checked all vtubers that I membered and I don't appear in any of them.

>> No.25013185

>>25012900
>then a 3 months break
Yeah, nah. Unless they're out for surgery, a 3-month break would kill their channel. At best, a one-week break for every 4-5 weeks or a month break every 4-5 months if you want to remain relevant as a VTuber. Ideally, just streaming 4 days a week with 3 days off would help mitigate against fatigue to reduce extended breaks.

What Cover needs is to establish regularly scheduled programming for their talent.

>> No.25013184

>>25013020
Well Noel is something different but AFAIK matuli only does zetsudans... Can't lie she's very pretty so maybe that's why?

>> No.25013204

>>25013174
They have HoloEarth which is expected to launch un 2024 or so

>> No.25013219

>>25013153
Again, weebs watching VTubers never cared much for politics, and would've been fine with the Chinese audience (who gave them most of their initial English clips) before the spergout.

Hololive moments turning against Coco was probably the last straw.

>> No.25013242

>>25013185
That could work as well. Regularly scheduled breaks + More talents streaming would help consolidate the holobox and make fans of the individual become DDs.

>> No.25013254

what the fuck are these salome numbers, since when do people give a shit about new niji girls to this extent

>> No.25013256

>>25013185
>establish regularly scheduled programming for their talent.
Nah, that's silly. They (both companies) have a system that works now:
- some streamers are daily monsters and could do that forever if they properly took good care of their voices
- some streams are occasional streamers that put a show every time they show up (like Toya, Marine, even Ayame)
- some streamers are three times a week not daily not rare streamers that fill the schedule
Not every streamer need to have the same stream frequency

>> No.25013276

How does this manlet keep getting gigs from Laplus? What's his secret?

https://twitter.com/lilTegin

>> No.25013281

>>25013184
she's pretty cute and is always dressed up in menhera chic
also has nice tits, as a coomer id wish she'd show them off more

>> No.25013284

>>25013254
Tourists who are curious abut her like me

>> No.25013295

>>25013284
but why do they care about her and not any of the last dozen nijis

>> No.25013299

>>25013284
She is the beginning of Nijibox.

>> No.25013302

How are the jews doing? Last I checked they had 100-ish ccv

>> No.25013303

rrat: Yagoo scheduled WWE today and the 3D live tomorrow to mitigate Salome's hype and debut buff

>> No.25013304

>>25012900
>Chuubas treaming for 9 months, then a 3 months break, while those that were on break stream for those 3 months + the next 6 months etc.
Would never work. They don't have that level of control for when projects come in, for who or how long they'll take. They also would have to match the interests of everyone and frankly most of them probably don't want to take 3 months off from stream. I also agree it'd be really shit for their fans and channels. Nobody wants this.

>> No.25013310

>>25013276
Long time friend/personal connection? Just like how Holo ID always uses Redshift for their songs.

>> No.25013313

>>25013219
>weebs watching VTubers never cared much for politics
You are correct for vtubers in isolation, it was (and still is) an escapist hobby to insulate a person from the craziness of the clown world.
My point is a more general one: the thing that allowed the western and chinese communities to bond was broken in 2020 and it was not just for vtubers.
Take the many fuckups by mihoyo on the gaming side, same thing.
The relationship between china and the west at the highest level deterioritated enough to cause problems even for hobbies, it is pretty much impossible to, at the same time, cater to both markets

>> No.25013320

>>25013295
none of hte other nijis were remotely interesting

>> No.25013337

>>25013320
so having a stupid but easily understood character gimmick is necessary as a hook to garner literally any interest from casuals?

>> No.25013340

>>25013219
Nobody cared about Chinese because they weren't visible and weren't bringing their bullshit into the market. Hololive had semi-regular streams in BiliBili and in YouTube they would blend in with the Japanese (because Kanji is partially intelligible to them) or communicate in English if they can.

But once they did, they pretty much got cast off, just like how SJWs types are gatekept due to the internal culture of the fanbase and the talents distancing themselves from it as much as possible.

>> No.25013353

>>25013320
This one isn't either outside of circumstance.

>> No.25013356

>>25013295
- the circumstances behind her debut (joke debut, kanae with voice changer, solo debut)
- ojou-sama stereotype desuwa
- curious people who want to know whether she is real or just a joke
- she is actually entertaining

>> No.25013364

>>25004038
If today's WWE stream is a success, Miko might get 100k 2 days in a row.
Imagine saying that back then.

>> No.25013366

>>25013337
It was not just that. Her being a full blown vtuber (instead of a 'streamer with an avatar') helped but the solo debut, the rrats that it could be anyone and everyone (kson, Mike), or a gag (Riku himself, Kanae) and the curiosity for a punchline that still didn't land (and may not land?) is driving this forward

>> No.25013373

>>25013337
casuals are tourists mate.
They'll show up for the event, get disappointed, and go back to whatever they're doing.
Actual chuuba fans or those in the anime circle is who you want to target.
And the ojousama niche hadn't been filled by anyone just yet.
That + the other factors listed here : >>25010621 are the cause for her big numbers.

Edengumi were ALL tourist watchers, and they weren't interesting enough to keep them.
Salome is a 20k floor streamer, and this is only the beginning of her story.

>> No.25013415

>>25013256
I didn't mean force it, but incentivize it. Get more of the revenue generated for covering under-served hours regularly or filling in empty slots when one of the talents isn't available to stream. That way, the talent is more motivated to volunteer for the hours under expectation of reward.

I don't think Nijisanji's ACCELERATE method of flooding the market is the best method, but Cover's overly lax approach to service isn't exactly better.

>> No.25013426

>>25013303
>Implying it was Yagoo and not planned between the girl themselves
I always firmly believe that there is a Hololive "council" consist of the top Holos pulling the string behind the scene. They meet up once in a while to strategize their schedules and BTFO Niji

>> No.25013453

>>25013426
Like that rrat of how Gura conveniently shows up whenever there is a NijiEN debut?

>> No.25013474

>>25013453
That's an overestimation. Gura is powerful but NOT that powerful

>> No.25013522
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25013522

it's like she's playing a completely different game to everyone else, like she's in a completely different frame of comparison

>> No.25013527

More holostars push. Voice Drama
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000702.000030268.html
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/holostars_conceptvoice202205

>> No.25013539

>>25013415
They already do it on their own if they want and their life allows it. Nobody is forcing Watame to stream until 7am.

>> No.25013541

>>25013522
She basically has a Hololive level of growth while in Nijisanji.

>> No.25013545

>>25013522
As we keep saying, she's the first actually entertaining Niji to come out in the past 2 years.

>> No.25013553

>>25013522
It's going full vertical kek

>> No.25013564

>>25013522
Stop spamming, retard.

>> No.25013602

>>25013541
yeah, kinda. If Niji has worked out the trick to getting Holo levels of growth, they're about to start doing a lot better.

>> No.25013603

>>25013545
>we

>> No.25013629

>>25013539
>literally didn't read any of what I was pointing out
Anon?

>> No.25013630

>>25012900
If you want a 3 month break, Cover needs to have at least 2 gen every years for every branch.

>> No.25013646

>>25002944
Why specifically Mio?
Does she have the least overlap with Migo so she brings in different viewers?

>> No.25013694

>>25013629
It's literally already "incentivized" by being hours with no competition. Those who want to take advantage of it already are and those that aren't have different priorities. Offering incentives they don't need isn't going to change that. They're not struggling 2 views in need of a cash to meet rent.

>> No.25013698

>>25012612
Pretty stupid of her. To cut off from a larger audience is always bad for numbers. I get that she was pissed but her rant is highkey rude too. Her kouhais can deal with spam better, its embarassing

>> No.25013729

>>25012900
>>25013630
This isn't fucking Nijisanji. A lot of fans would be gutted if their oshi fucked off for 3 months.

>> No.25013755

>>25013646
NTA, but I'd guess their logic is that Mio has not only been doing fairly well recently, but is also one of the better commentators in Hololive.

>> No.25013816

>>25013527
>HOLOSTARS concept voice drama escape from uninhabited island!
Sounds familiar

>> No.25013856

the MV seems pretty good
https://youtu.be/iR9xShsBK1U

>> No.25013867

>>25013755
Wouldn't Polka or Fubuki be better at this type of play by play commentary? But that doesn't matter for this collab since Miko is bringing the whole entourage minus Suisei.

>> No.25013921

Zeta 3.2k

>> No.25013946

I'm impressed with the Desuwa girl. She has what it takes I think. She's pulling a Chloe, all she needs to do is keep her foot on the pedal. I think Chloe lost a bit of motivation early on with the death of her family member, but barring badluck Desuwa is on her way to 1 million subs within 6 months

>> No.25013979

>>25013946
I'm interested to see how far the vertical >>25013522 line will go

>> No.25013989

Is haachama's infinity the song that took the longest to hit one million? (358 days 8 hours) or something like that

>> No.25013999

>>25013979
500k and then flattening out I think

>> No.25014022

https://youtu.be/vEVMjb91gAU
Ollie and a literal who prediction?

>> No.25014032

>>25013946
one of the problems with chloe is that she's just always acting cute and it kinda doesn't fit well with her model
the initial hype was that her model is superb especially with that mask but she just rarely use it nowadays after she took it off.. it's really a waste of cool look

>> No.25014036

>>25013989
In case of doubt, always go back and look at this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4PT1phuM9M
Then you will have your answer.

>> No.25014042

>>25013999
Pretty much. If iinchou gets mogged that fast there will be schism inbound.

>> No.25014064

>>25013946
Salome will slow down around 500k or 600k if she's lucky, you can only get so far with a JP only audience

>> No.25014076

how many of you subbed to salome?
how many of you subbed to any of eden/ranunculus/selene?

>> No.25014089

>>25013867
Polka and Fubuki haven't been doing as well in numbers as Mio has, but I'd agree they're more entertaining commentators.

>> No.25014090

>>25014076
I'm not a bot, so no, I'm not subbed.

>> No.25014096

>>25014036
Oh man I remember when this dropped
Honestly I have no idea how infinity even hot a million, nothing less of a miracle

>> No.25014106

>>25013989
no. one of azki's 3 year old songs just hit 1m

>> No.25014141

>>25014032
Imagine if she had made the mask on cool mode Chloe and mask off cute mode Chloe and kept to that kayfabe. The disappointing thing is she definitely has the vocal range for it too. Playing up that gap whether between streams or within the same stream would've been amazing. Potential wasted imo.

>> No.25014156

Speaking of haachama... She gave excuse for the people in the reddit to just talk about vshojo... Good lord it's like they were waiting for the slightest thing to get them talking about those girls

>> No.25014179

>miko against 94k desuwa tonight
>desuwa going for another stream later tonight
What a fucking race

CAN WE DO IT HOLOBROSSS???
SHE'S STRONGG, I DONT THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.25014196

>>25014141
Chloe isn't that good at kayfabe even though she does have a good vocal range. Laplus would've been better if she had an alternate outfit where she could do something like that, but Lap is lazy.

>> No.25014200

>>25014076
Before Salome the last niji I subbed to was Hoshikawa back in 2019.

>> No.25014219

>>25014076
The only niji I'll ever watch or sub to is Hoshikawa

>> No.25014221

>>25014179
Make a fucking 120k wall or make another 125k wall with Miko3D

>> No.25014227

>>25013946
>>25014032
Chloe's problem is that she spammed too much SC reading during her debut buff. It turned me off really hard.
>>25014076
I subbed to Salome, Chigusa, and Hisui.

>> No.25014229

>>25014089
How new? Fubuki excels in this sort of thing. Watching her roast Marine and Shion for hours was a thing of beauty.

>> No.25014257

>>25014179
Make better posts. The only result you're getting out of shitposting is making everyone think you're a retard.

>> No.25014282

>>25014076
I don't sub to Nijis. Never will. Nijifags will never support my oshi so you won't get shit out of me.

>> No.25014288

>>25014076
Only subbed to Suzy's guard dog

>> No.25014297

>>25014076
personally I'm only subbed to amemori, ange, mikoto, kataribe, and now salome

>> No.25014302

>>25014179
terminalnumberrot.csv

>> No.25014336
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25014336

>Holo"live"
>Nobody is live

>> No.25014341

>2h left
>2.3k waiting
Miko...

>> No.25014353

>>25014076
My only NIji subs are Kuzuha, Toya, Hoshikawa and Gwelu

>> No.25014361

>>25014336
Koyori is live, she's always live, she streams 4 times a day

>> No.25014375

>>25014032
I don’t think I had as fast a 180 on a vtuber as I had with Chloe due to the mask dilemma. To me, the mask really helped bolster her uniqueness at the time and gave her some type of personality for her character. But then she took the mask off and not only turned into your everyday cute vtuber, but she didn’t want to do anything but be cute and get money. Like, the double/triple SC reading streams every other day, the constant cute noises and this and that. It just felt like she lost that shine she had at debut, for me at least

>> No.25014389

>>25014341
4h left, 1.6k waiting

>> No.25014422

>>25014361
*koronesuki_purisu_sleep.jpg*

>> No.25014425

>>25003440
>>25011340
>>25011728
>m-muh bots, doesn't count!
Cope, seethe and dilate, Holobronies. Your time is over and your whores will do nothing in the future but keep declining.

>> No.25014427

>>25014361
Yet she got overtaken by an indog in 2 months

>> No.25014451

>>25014427
Consider necking yourself.

>> No.25014458

>>25014427
always being live isn't good for numbers, but if you're mad that holos don't stream at least she exists to point at

>> No.25014460

>>25014076
i might sub to her if she lasts more than a week
not subbed to anyone from the latest waves

>> No.25014462
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>>25014076
I'm not subbed yet (waiting for the other shoe + don't wanna fuck up my algorithm with other nijis) but I have watched all her streams (debut was on a private window).

>> No.25014466
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>>25014336
Between current Koyori and the morning Koyori there are very very very very few scheduled streams on Holodex
>Subaru and Watame
>Okayu and Miko
>Botan
>Lui
>Laplus SC reading

>> No.25014467

>>25014427
please please for the love of god kill yourself

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>>25014361
Don't be fooled my nigga. The Koyori triplets can stream for 24 hours without rest but doing so would make it too obvious

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