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24763390 No.24763390 [Reply] [Original]

Why are her views so low compared to other HoloEN members?

>> No.24763557

Nobody watches aussies live. What they excel in are incredibly over-edited videos in which they explain detailed metaphors involving bodily fluids and violence.

>> No.24763723

>>24763390
Bots stopped working last week, despite that I still wanna mating press Mika Pikazo.

>> No.24763854

>>24763390
She's generally charming but hasn't quite found a niche. Baewatch has potential.

Also obligatory I want to mating press her

>> No.24763877

She's the least interesting alone. That's why she does a lot of collabs.

>> No.24763910

ESL voice

>> No.24763972

>>24763877
her zatsudans are the best though

>> No.24764037

>>24763390
What is her "buff games"? If she haven't found any, might as well try other genre that haven't played that much by chuubas, like fighting games or RTS

>> No.24764050

>>24763972
no it doesn't
it just O MA GA BRUH for 3hrs

>> No.24764075

>>24763390
>Why are her views so low compared to other HoloEN members?
I followed Bae's case for a long time. Talked to a lot of anons in numbers thread. Trying to look deeper into trends and statistics, started several threads and polls on vt. After gathering all evidences, I come up with the final conclusion.Most people are unable to watch stream and mating press simultaneously.

>> No.24764299

>>24764037
Do the other members have "buff games"? They mostly just play Mario Kart, Minecraft, and whaterver FotM game is out. I don't think Mumei even plays much of anything.

>> No.24764378

>>24764299
She plays Overwatch, and just plays casual-friendly characters like Moira, or Apex, and is terrible.

>> No.24764472

>>24764037
i'd like to see a starcraft playing autist chuuba

>> No.24764513

>>24764299
Holo EN with buff games ? I don't recall it
(FotM doesn't count)
buff game is not common even for JPs
(Aqua APEX, Fubuki shiny pokemon, Miko WWE)

>> No.24764580

>>24764513
also, Suisei Mario Kart Tournament

>> No.24764616

>>24763390
Mating press.

>> No.24764686

>>24764472
Pretty sure there isn't a corpo Starcraft autist but both Selen and Nina have played the original Starcraft campaign.

>> No.24764731

>>24764075
huh. understandable actually. pretty simple when you think about it really. thanks for the explanation anon

>> No.24764878

>>24763557
I'm watching one right now, buddy.

>> No.24764930
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>>24763390
>Lack of unique commentary.
>Making random noises but it's annoying unlike gura she's making it cute and filling the dead air.
>Don't know how to make her laugh more genuine.
>Don't know how to rebutt.
>Making the collab awkward
Her and IRys is a great tandem

>> No.24765226

>>24763390
that's what you get for shipping yourself to male streamer, holostars in this case
look at Ollie and Iofi, both has shitter numbers too

>> No.24765399

>>24764299
Any games can be a buff game if you are good at them. Look at Kaela for example, she can reach 3k ccv playing Wild Rift because she is good at it. Don't forget Aqua the Apex autist

>> No.24766942

>>24764299
Holy shit I just realized this, she hardly streams games like ever

>> No.24767080

>>24763390
I like bae, I think she’s pretty cute but MY GOD her yelling and obnoxious sounds are almost unbearable. It’s a shame because her voice is actually sex.

I think she’s just struggling finding her niche.

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>>24763390
>Joined to get with Rob, creepy
>Also, doing the collab with Rob (with Ollie of all people, who pretty much tried to wingman/ship her the whole time) opened the door for annoying shippers, something she still sometimes has to deal with today
>Zoomerish to the point you think it's a joke, then you realise it's not a joke
>People only post her here to say >Matingpress
>Has now started hanging out with the fail reaper, getting too drunk to stream
>Doesn't really stand out at all, just treads water
She's literally only good for porn at this point.

>> No.24767953

>>24763390
Homobeggar cocksucker debuff.

>> No.24771440
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24771440

You can get bonked pretty easy in her live chat. You can scroll up at any point and see messages missing. Why watch live if you can't talk to the streamer? With vods you can fast forward etc and you're competing with lets players at that point.
Do you want to watch rat die a lot or do you want to see the game completed?
Memes here aside (I only watch her casually) she comes off prude. That's fine but Baelz has her model at the shoulders hiding her clothes most of the time. Make up your mind. Then again you can just watch Vshojo for that.
I've watched Baelz a few times and still know nothing about her. I know more about Sana than I do Baelz and I've never watched a Sana stream. Who the fuck is the rat girl? I know she's Australian and a zoomer. Great.
So you have a streamer you can't bond with, can't talk to and isn't really using the games she plays to push herself up into the spotlight. It's just...here Apex gun game. Here visual novel but I'm just going to read and not interact with the audience during it.
There is no chaos with Hakos Baelz.

>> No.24771468

>>24763390
A lot of unicorns that get attracted to her get tuned off instantly once they find out that she's wants to do collans with the hololive dudes.
She seems fine for the most part, but that my understanding of it it when there outrage about her.

>> No.24772491

>>24771468
yeah, she killed her unicorns really early in her career

>> No.24773542
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>>24772491
It's funny though because the few times i've had a look a /rrat/ thread they've been talking about getting fit or doing /o/ reps because that's what Bae likes.
So she not only killed a lot of her Unicorns, but she might actually lead to the rest curing themselves.
I really wonder how many people pic related has gotten to start exercising.

>> No.24774675

>>24767842
>She's literally only good for porn at this point

Ok but she is BUILT for it

>> No.24775533

>>24771468
>hololive dudes

>> No.24775809

Why does Bae have the most threadreader antis?
Everything said in this thread barring a few comments has been wrong so far with no prior research conducted.... jesas you clowns

>> No.24775870

>>24763390
The Haachama of HoloEN

>> No.24775973

>>24775533
>Hololive boi

>> No.24776231

>>24775809
>Catalogniggers doing research
Good joke mate

>> No.24776292

>>24775870
Haachama has a dramatic career and stories for people to discuss. What is there to discuss about Bae, besides mating press? (some might even argue mating press is an action, rather than a topic, making absolutely nothing to discuss about Bae)

>> No.24776397

>>24776292
So we end up here discussing why "there is nothing to discuss about Bae"

>> No.24776552

>>24771440
>Why watch live if you can't talk to the streamer?
live football, live mma over vod. live fireworks (depends on circumstances you can actually talk to fireworks, I always talk to things in head, you know)

>> No.24776637
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>compared to other holoEN members
In what world are you living in? Half of holoEN is sub-6k shitters, including beloved members like Ame and Fauna.

>> No.24776722

>>24776292
>Cute EXTREME zoomer with unique outlook on stuff
>Really fun zatsu streams
>Hardworking, always focuses on cheering her audience first and foremost
>Worked on her flaws and is no longer loud in streams or collabs barring minecraft
>Genuinely sweet with no ulterior motives and a pure love for Hololive as opposed to what most threadreading niggers would suggest

I don't know man, I find that there is tons to talk about her
Maybe because I watch her and am not a threadreader pulling shit out of my ass with no basis

>> No.24776759

Time zone

>> No.24776880

>>24776637
Go click through their channels and look at the views on their videos. A lot of Bae's are sitting at around 50k while all the others get at least around a 100k on theirs.

>> No.24776893

>>24776722
I think Bae has really good ideas for streams, The best in council from what I saw in that month she streamed the entirety of.
If she truly does have free time next month like I've heard, she is going to incline hard if she does similar streams

>> No.24776938

>>24763390
She should actually embrace who she is and stream in Cantonese. Look how cozy and sweet the Selen streams are where she talks to her mom in Canto.

>> No.24776997

>>24764930
>>24767080
She tries a bit too hard for clipfags kettle XD, but otherwise, she's fine. Comfy in a unique way.

>> No.24777112

>>24763390
She's trying too hard to be hyper.
She's not entertaining.
She uses the same crutches "bruh" all the time.

Ironically her sleepy voice is pure sex I hope they let her, or she decides, to drop her chaos act and start being more natural on stream.

That or ban her from drinking coffee before or during stream.

>> No.24777146

>>24776880
I just did and found out you are a lying nigger
She is doing fine except on the chatting streams and the fucking Moona collab of a debuff game.
Most of her streams are in the 80k-100+ range lately, keep coping

>> No.24777243

She's fucking boring. There's no reason to watch her over anyone else streaming over her.

>> No.24777374

>>24763390
I think her views are fine, she just hasn't had time to do many cool streams this month due to school.
Unironically I believe that she is at her weakest in 5+ man game collabs. Her solo content is good and her one on one collabs are good as well.

>> No.24777571

>>24777146
8 out of her last 18 streams are below 65k views and 80k is still a low view stream for other members.

>> No.24777790

>>24771468
>>24772491
>>24773542
>Kill Unicorns by mentioning homos during debut
>Still be in the upper half of superchat rankings in HoloEN while having a /fit/ fanbase who she inspires
I kneel Rat

>> No.24777880

>>24777790
>>Still be in the upper half of superchat rankings
Because she pandered to koreans. 50-60% of her income is koreans

>> No.24777980

>>24777880
Well you know what they say, "if it's fixed, break it."

>> No.24778103

>>24767842
how much money do I have to pay to watch her fuck Roberu? He's collabed with so many females and yet hasnt even made a sexual joke about Hakos

>> No.24778223

>>24777880
She pandered to them in the most earnest and genuine way without relying on fotm gimmicks like duolingo but instead using real textbooks to attempt to communicate with them, also trying her hardest reading superchats whenever she could despite extremely limited understanding of the language at first.

No wonder her efforts stuck and Mumei and Kiara's didn't.

>> No.24778240

Gave her a shot because she's hard working
>Weird Rob collab with Ollie
>Hanging out with Mori more and more
>Not the best streams, but not the worst
All not bad enough for me to drop her, but then
>Mouse
There's only so many red flags you can send me before I just decide you're probably not worth it lmao

>> No.24778482

idk why this tiktok zoomer gets under my skin but others don't. She seems so vapid in ways people like Elira or Lisa from Tsunderia don't.

>> No.24779287

IMO the way she react to things is... not entertaining, take the Va-11 Hall-a stream for example, it feel forced and cringey imo

>> No.24779367

Fuck the rat

>> No.24779468

>>24779287
Funny you say that, the Va-11 Hall-a stream was very fun for me, I found her reactions unique you could say.
I think it was a bit forced in the first part but the second stream was much better on the reactions

>> No.24779649

>>24778240
Bae really took a wrong turn. Now her identity is weird. Fond of roberu, collabed once but never again. Doesn't seem super close with the Kronii Fauna Mumei gang.

>> No.24779850

>>24763390
SHOULDN'T HAVE PUT HOMOSTAR ON YOUR DEBUT SLIDE SHOW HAHAAHAH DUMB RRAT
YOURE FREE TO FANGIRLING BUT DO IT ON YOUR OWN TIME NOT USING YOUR HOLO PERSONA

>> No.24779865

>>24779468
>Va-11 Hall-a stream
Her just breaking down repeating she was a seiso streamer was pretty funny

>> No.24779932

>>24779649
Kronii? sure
Bae is absolutely close with Fauna and Mumei especially the latter

>> No.24779962

>>24763557
Stimpee?

>> No.24780025

>>24764580
sui should be tetris, but yeah mario kart also good for her

>> No.24780050

>>24763390
Boring

>> No.24780164

>>24779850
pr rep 101

Bae: What is that?

It's okay if Bae has thought this through and decided to kill unicorns on day 1. But if Bae rarely collabs with male, or regrets the decision, then it is dumb

>> No.24780232

>>24763390
Obnoxious korean pandering chink

>> No.24780278

>>24780232
>Chink buzzword
Found the Baeschizo

>> No.24780338

>>24780278
Ogey zhang

>> No.24780460

>>24780164
>But if Bae rarely collabs with male
i have yet to see 1on1 collab with male or am i missed out shit

>> No.24780705

>>24763390
Her views are low because she had some unfortunate circumstances regarding her cat which made her schedule very light and uninteresting.
She streamed debuff games at debuff times.
Fucking powerwash as opposed to spamming minecraft or karaoke. She is very busy with school this month and apparently she will have much more free time for streams next month. She will unleash all those projects that she has been working on, incline hard and then you will KNEEL to her like the numbernigger you are
It's in your blood after all.

>> No.24781119

i liek de bae

>> No.24781260

>>24780460
Bae has a weird group collab with Roberu, never 1on1 collab with male yet.
What I'm trying to said is, Bae killed unicorns on debut, IF Bae is not going to collab with males in future, killing unicorns would be an absolutely dumb action.

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>>24763390
They shouldn't be, she's great. She's the nicest person in HoloEN and her streams are healing (if you like hyper loud genki types) I think it's a time zone thing mainly.

>> No.24781450

>>24763390
trash streamer, pretty good singer
should've gotten Fauna model while using her PL voice

>> No.24781515

>>24763390
Bright red hurts my eyes. Bruh-isms also filter me.

>> No.24781607

>>24781515
Boom Boom thx for the red supachat !

>> No.24781622

>>24781260
call me a cuck all you want I want to see her do a 1on1 collab with Roberu

>> No.24781648

>>24763390
Busy irl with studies, no time to get projects out
Debuff timezones, debuff streams and deliberate overlaps with the heavy hitters.
I think next month will be much better for her but I'm not a numberfag so I don't really care, just offering my two cents

>> No.24781813

>>24781622
cuck

>> No.24781831

>>24781622
Nah. Depends on how you see a chuuba. Even male audience ship anime couples.

Is Bae your oshi? (Do you like Bae very much?)

>> No.24781922

>>24781831
I love Bae i just think she'd get along great with Yukoku Roberu from Holostars

>> No.24782202

>>24763390
Boring and annoying at the same time

>> No.24782257

>>24779962
I think he’s talking about G-Man Lives.

>> No.24782402

>>24779865
It was terrible. She keeps skipping text when there's adult themes or "boring" worldbuilding.

>> No.24782601

>>24782202
boring = makes you feel nothing
annoying = makes you wanna choke the life out of something

>> No.24782779

>>24782402
u kidding me? the text thing is the best part of Va-11 Hall-a.

This game is best played by a sentiment chuuba, I think. Alternatively, I also would like to see Kronii give it a try.

>> No.24783291

>>24763390
>Is Chinese
>In Hololive

>> No.24783309

>>24763557
I tried but i cant understand this zoomer I'm to old

>> No.24783892

>>24767842
Man when she didn't know what Roller Coaster Tycoon was I felt so fucking old

>> No.24784151

>>24763390
The voice.

>> No.24784379

>>24763390
You should worry about your own numbers Nijinigger.

>> No.24785007

>>24764037
horror game is her buff game if she would play

>> No.24785123

Idk. I genuinely like her but I watch others who made an impression on me before her instead for whatever reason. I might fix that

>> No.24785791

She's better and more entertaining than Fauna but because she doesn't whore herself out with ASMR she doesn't get the same boost that that boring bitch does

>> No.24786221

>>24782601
Yeah, choke this shit outta your dick

>> No.24786376

>>24786221
lmfaoooooo

>> No.24789774

>isolated
>men collab mentions
>annoying persona voice, actual really nice
>sings rather well
>breedable model
>excels in collabs
en towa?

>> No.24793229

>>24781450
I actually think she and mumei should have swapped

>> No.24795795

>>24785791
Not even close to true

>> No.24795890

>>24764050
jump on the cliff now threadnigger

>> No.24796100
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>>24776637
>Half of holoEN is sub-6k shitters
I know Sana is big, but she's not half of them.

>> No.24796132

>>24763390
most of en are white /who/res maybe except ina also i only like ame and bae.

>> No.24796187

>>24763390
She collabed with a man. She's dead to me.

>> No.24796208

>>24763390
Remember when people said she's gonna be the next Gura?

>> No.24796272

>>24796100
>kronii doesn't even like this job
>still mogs the fuck out of her genmates
aint that some shit

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>>24763390
Prating Mess

>> No.24797126

I have a feeling she's pretty sheltered and never really got to form a solid personality outside of streaming. With no actual interesting life experiences or anecdotes to draw from, Bae feels one dimensional and predictable.

>> No.24797295

>>24763390
The homostars effect.

>> No.24800686

>>24763390
>Gets higher viewers than Kiara
>But you're afraid of the janny whos trigger happy when it comes to anything Mori / Kiara
>And you won't get any yous from a Sana post
>So you settle on Bae as your target
Lazy low effort thread. Not even the least popular EN. Retards still reply. Figures.

>> No.24800727

>>24797126
Just say you don't watch her man
Bae has had tons of life experience judging by the stories she has told.
Basketball, scuba diving, bouldering, swimming, tennis, skydiving, participiating in a dancing tournament in ausland, snowboarding, can play 4 different instruments, loves cars and cleans, fixes and drives her own, has been to mutliple countries like holy fuck, it's more of a question of what she hasn't done.
This is the problem with threadreaders like you and everyone of your ilk in this thread. You genuinely have no idea what you are talking about because you never sat down to watch more than 1 second of her chatting streams, the girl literally never runs out of stories or life experiences to share and it's entertaining as fuck.

Sometimes I just want a girl to talk about her life experience and have fun sharing stuff from the PRESENT rather than being some
"le so quirky my aminal and feet" or some "Do you guys remember this cereal commercial from the early 2000's?" type of chuubas like most of the HoloEN girls.

>> No.24801868

>>24800727
Does Mumei really do that much foot fetish baiting? I don't watch her but I've seen it pop up in clips.

>> No.24802029

>>24801868
No, it's just a generalized idea of her humour not meant to be taken literal.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Mumei, Fauna and Kronii but sometimes I just want to enjoy a girl who isn't deliberately trying to be weird or referencing some obscure 90's stuff that anons here love

>> No.24802206

>>24764037
>Bae playing fighting games
Now that'd be pretty cool, and it does suits her character. Too bad she sucks at games

>> No.24802317

I can't be the only one who thinks she's awkward and boring, and too sensitive to be "chaos", and bad at games

>> No.24804502
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>Killed the chance of having gachikois with the Roberu stream but is also too scared to be know as the ''girl that wants to fuck a homo''
>loud like crazy
>loves to overlap against more interesting streams and Gura
>misses random unity moments
>to obsessed with speedrunning collabs to the point people only know her for collabs instead of solo streams
>Same mistakes as Kiara on her debut days = trying to speak both English and Japanese making zatsus super slow

>> No.24804620

>>24789774
No, not even close enfagchama

>> No.24804895

>>24804502
Most of your points are outdated, allow me to address them as someone who watches streams.
1 - She has gachikois regardless of what you believe in, don't use the "le koreans" as a cope, a gachikoi s a gachikoi, some dude even dropped 500 USD the other day during her stream for no reason
2 - from her recent streams, the only stream where she was "loud" was the minecraft open VC collab, every other stream she has done has been relatively chill, in short, as long as she is not playing an attention demanding game, she is very fun to watch, especially her morning zatsus
3 - I'll give you that, very dumb of her, she also keeps switching timezones every other week
4 - I'll give you that one as well, she missed a lot of moments where she could've joined in but apparently she was busy with school so I can't really fault her
5 - She was doing this but her last 2-3 weeks have been mostly focused on solo streams so she is definitely trying to address this.
6 - She no longer tries to speak both english and japanese anymore, that was a debut-month only thing

>> No.24806565

>>24763390
I like her design and voice. She got so many clip moments. But most of clips are either collab or her ship with IRyS.
She doesn't really have any niche right now so it's kinda hard for people to binge her.

>> No.24806681

She had the Ollie appeal at first, but the crazy ADHD energy only is appealing for so long.

>> No.24806772

>>24796100
He might be talking about average, not peak

>> No.24811117

>>24763390
i like bae a lot, but her timezones as an eufag are impossible and when i do manage to catch a stream its often something i dont care for
i absolutely loved her there is no game playthrough, that was fantastic

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>> No.24811185

cuz she's obnoxious and insincere

>> No.24811330

>Can't find anything plausible or feasible to hate the rat on
>Make shit up
Bae antis truly are threadreaders

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>>24811330

>> No.24811788

>>24763390
Timezone debuff

>> No.24811873

>>24811671
This thread you made filled with week 1 crying is proof enough Threadus Readus.

>> No.24811907

>>24771440
>You can get bonked pretty easy in her live chat.
She actually has a mod?

>> No.24811962

>>24811671
C'mon it's pretty obvious to tell the threadreading samefag retards from those offering genuine criticism
You can't be this dense

>> No.24812034

>>24796272
Filling a nitch no one else in hololive has done really helps.

>> No.24812045

>>24811907
It's youtube's stupid automod going berserk and flagging people, I keep getting bonked from her chat even as a member.
I got timed-out in Miko's chat for no apparent reason ffs

>> No.24812424

>>24763390
that's what she deserves for talking about roberu

>> No.24812588

>open stream
>she starts speaking Japanese
>close stream
Did she stop this?

>> No.24812624

>>24804502
>Killed the chance of having gachikois with the Roberu stream but is also too scared to be know as the ''girl that wants to fuck a homo''
Honestly I hate the flip flopping. Her fake girlfriend stream was gold but she wont lean into it more because its pretty clear she wants to be an ENstar sidepiece when they debut

>> No.24812630

>>24812588
no lmao

>> No.24812727

>>24795795
It absolutely is true. Fauna is a talentless unentertaining bitch who somehow coasts off her shitty ASMR and the Holo name

>> No.24812755

>>24811671
Here's your proof retard
>>24812424
>>24812588
>>24812630
Girl hasn't talked about Roberu in two months and you see cunts like this samefag bump the thread over and over again.
The Roberu shit isn't even the reason for her low views

She also stopped speaking japanese a long time ago yet here they are, threadreaders with buttholes so wide they keep pulling shit out
I didn't even have to look for them

>> No.24812839

>>24812755
Holy cope.

>> No.24812862

>>24812045
Maybe don't say nigger every other word?

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>>24812755

>> No.24813358
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>>24811873

>> No.24814017

She doesn't have a niche, or at least the niche she does have (syphoning the Hangul-Nikki) is one that isn't big enough to rake in huge numbers.

>> No.24814860

>>24776722
That means nothing, hasn't it been a year since they debuted? Yet there are zero memorable stories about what they've done, no legacy whatsoever

>> No.24815754

>>24812755
First impressions mean everything in this business and she blew it. Cope.

>> No.24816259

>>24763390
The reason for her low views is quite simple, she has been busy IRL with school for the past 2 months and as a result has been cruising by with largely uninteresting/debuff stream contents at constantly fluctuating timezones due to rat school, she hasn't had time to get any of her interesting projects/creative ideas done due to balancing exams and shit.
Next month, she will get back on track and incline hard since she said she will have a lot more free time to get her projects done and pushed out.
Her new streaming room should also be ready by next month which will lead into a slew of new content that she always wanted to do but couldn't because of space limitations.
Expect 7+ streams next month every week, it'll be like mini-Febaery 2.0

>> No.24816835

>>24763390
>Cats died, had to give up her main one, depressed and lost drive for creativity and streaming for a bit
>School exams started this month, keeping her even more busy, strict parents as well
>Her dad is still working on the fucking streamer room and she has to help sometimes

Give the poor girl a break, she's been having it rough for the last two months and it shows in her stream content.
Febaery was incredible for her in viewership precisely because she was at the top of her game with no distractions and could come up with creative ideas/projects
Next month will be much better for her since exams will be over and her new room will be finished.

>> No.24817952

The only thing that's discussed about Bae here, is how much they want to fuck her.
Please describe her personality to me without mentioning the word 'zoomer'.

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