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24180850 No.24180850 [Reply] [Original]

Why, after years of ignoring HoloID Gen 1, Gen 2, NijiID, and MyHoloTV, is there finally an ID-focused Vtuber that's actually successful? Not just ID-tier successful, but EN-tier successful, despite barely even speaking the language? Where were you back when Lofi, or Reine, or Mika debuted? They did so poorly speaking ID that they immediately pivoted to EN pandering just to scrape by. Now you're telling me that ID had an audience all along, and they were just not watching any of the already-existing ID chuubas until now? What's the difference between Kobo and all those other girls?

>> No.24180968

>What's the difference between Kobo and all those other girls?
She went viral and got ID ecelebs boost

>> No.24181076

I want to discuss her cunny.

>> No.24181103

>>24180850
id here,

because shes just interesting and panders to zoomers ID that actually spent their time on internet also . she is cute like anime
the other holo id mems feels like normal streamer ethots . (yes we have those aswell)

>> No.24181114

>>24180850
TUMMY!

>> No.24181159

>>24123348
here's your discussion, this didn't deserve a thread slot

>> No.24181228

>>24180850
cuz she doesn't speak English, so the ID viewers won't need to worry about their oshi speaking English the whole time

>> No.24181230

>>24181159
you're right, we need more shitpost and bait to make this board more interesting

>> No.24181256

>>24180850
1.New donation platforms keep appearing, some can link to gopay, one of many digital wallet in Indonesia, gopay link to mobile phone number only, no need to own a credit card

2. Kobo is just entertaining

>> No.24181305

Can someone explain to me what "entertaining" is to a typical indonesian? I'm sure everyone has different ideas on what's entertaining to them.

>> No.24181320

2 thirds her viewers are children the other third are Pedophile buff (being generous with the ratio)
Same with the other pedo bait

>> No.24181355
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>>24181103
Risu has a cute voice, too. She even did a whole month of deez nuts jokes. Don't zoomers love those things?

>>24181159
I wanted a less-hugboxy opinion on her, so I'm opening this to the public

>>24181103
>>24181256
Being "interesting" or "entertaining" only gets you so far. Ollie was both of those things, yet she only reached 5k per stream even at her peak. And just because you can't donate doesn't mean you can't watch the stream and increase the viewercount for free.

>> No.24181365

>>24181230
This is a tribalfagging bait thread, just disguised as a discussion, cut this bullshit out until good threads are able to go hours between bumps without dying

>> No.24181380

>>24180850
Daily numberfagging news, try to enjoy her at least.

>> No.24181467

>loli design
Thats it actually
also she knew kekbook humor unlike the others that barely touch fb at all

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>>24181365
>>24181380
>This is a tribalfagging bait thread, just disguised as a discussion
How is this any more of a bait thread than the daily "Kobo passed X Nijimale" thread? I made this thread in response to that thread, because I know asking there isn't gonna net any logical discussion. The raw number is boring to me, I wanna know WHY the numbers are the way that they are. It's literally anti-bait.

Goddamn dude, not everything you dislike is bait. SOMETIMES, people post their genuine opinions here.

>> No.24181586

>>24181505
In a properly moderated board, splits wouldn't need to exist, but anything more than one thread for a specific vtuber is spam at best, even if it's a genuine attempt at discussion

>> No.24181630

>>24180850
>Shitposting
80% kobo fanbase is shitposter

>> No.24181633

>>24181505
>How is this any more of a bait thread than the daily "Kobo passed X Nijimale" thread?
It's a response to Nijifags doing that garbage first. And now you're adding fuel to it. So, why don't you take your "query" and shove it in those bait threads instead?

>> No.24181668

>>24181586
In a properly moderated board, only generals would exist.

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>>24181355
There is a very popular and big indonesia gaming youtuber named windah basudara and Kobo is one of his biggest fans. Her way of joking is very similar with Windah. her joke style is more boyish and different compared to the Indonesia Vtubers. Windah also recognized her and made reaction video about her, which gives big boost and her popularity to normies and people who doesn't watch vtuber. She also mostly talk with Indo, so every IOP peasants are welcomed into her streams. Kobo brings many newbie vtuber fans.

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>>24181633
>It's a response to Nijifags doing that garbage first.
Which was a response to Holofags doing that to the Nijigirls back in the pre-Luxiem days. After Irysfags said they hoped Pomu died of breast cancer during her break, it's kind of hard for you guys to claim that "we" started anything here.

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>>24181305
>speak indonesian
>uses indonesian jokes
>uses mannerism that is familiar to indonesian streamer's audeince
That's it really. Its just that simple. Somehow people forget that vtubing on its own is a foreign concept, with foreign mannerism and how-to-do's that is different from how we do it here. Vtuber is a foreign niche entertainment concept. Just because this is a winning formula in Japan, doesnt mean it can just succeed here.

Kobo calls her subscribers directly by their names and includes them in her videos, she likes similar things and eat the same cheap ass 10 cents streetfood that people here did. She aims for that typical non-vtuber fan indonesian audience, (just like what she was before finding out Hololive just last December) and the audience responded in kind.

>Risu do deez nuts joke
foreign jokes, you need to speak english to even understand what those two words means
>Ollie is entertaining
she's entertaining in a vtuber standard, her mannerism is still weird to casual indon viewers.

>> No.24182026

>>24181355
Ollie is cringe desu

>> No.24182075

just wanna do TLDR :

kobo is the most relateable indonesian vtuber in hololive and nijisanji .

>> No.24182151

>>24181961
to add, Kobo won my interest way back in her first ever where she pinned a message saying
>Dont bother being a chat police, just be a sleeping police / road bump instead
like kek, who even does that? In their first ever stream no less. Thats just straight up a joke you can shoot between friends when you hang out together.

>> No.24182213

>>24181103
>normal streamer e-thots
Kys kontol babi

>> No.24182348

>>24182213
im sorry i offend your whore-badford
uh oh
i mean
mythia betford

>> No.24182397

>>24180968
proof?

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So from what I'm gathering, she's kinda like Gura 2.0, where she attracted a bunch of normies to a formerly-niche medium, with many of those normies watching her and only her while having zero interest in Vtubing as a whole?

>> No.24182507

>>24182460
yes.

>> No.24182573

>>24182460
>bunch of normies

More like pedos

>> No.24182588

>>24180850
ID here, it's because she's actually entertaining unlike the other IDs. I've been here since ID gen 1's debut and kobo is the only ID member that got me interested to watch her full streams. It also doesn't help that so much of holo ID panders to EOPs which is fine, but I'd rather watch HoloEN if they're going to speak English all the time. Overall she's just better at streaming compared to everyone else. Cunny also helps ig

>> No.24182605

>>24182348
>mentions mythia out of nowhere
u wot, m8?

>> No.24182655

>>24182348
>Mythia
Gak ada yang ngomongin dia tolol

>> No.24182936

>>24181355
Here's the thing about ollie her jokes are just boring

>> No.24183010

>>24180850
>incoming wall-of text, from ID anon
Since today is Sunday(in indonesia), I'm watching Kobo's plant vs zombie VOD.
There's something I notice about her, she's the closest thing to an indonesian 3dpd streamer in HoloID.
>She FREQUENTLY (not all) reads sociabuzz donos on the spot in the middle of the game.
I think that's one factor of why she has so many donations from SB. Sometimes the donation influences her gameplay and decisions, it makes the audience feel like they're playing together with Kobo.

>she's very considerate of IOPs and non-gamers audience, a trait that I often found in indonesian popular YouTube gamers (I said that because there's someone like milyhya who's not a streamer) who are often very verbal, describing every information they see, hear and found, and redundant in their communication (in a positive way).
There's a reason for this, the majority of pc games are not translated to Bahasa Indonesia. So sometimes the Streamers need to explain what's obvious for them to their audience who don't know English at all or not familiar with the game. Even though plant vs zombie is a very simple game, Kobo still spent her time explaining the game mechanic, as if she's discovering the game together with her audience for the first time. She's also verbalizing on what she thinks about her next move in the game.

On the contrary, I watched Risu's jump king and Reine's elden ring, They just straight up jump into the game under the assumption that you the audience already familiar with the game they play.

In short, kobo is a talented streamer, I'm curious I wonder if Kobo's PL is probably an ex-streamer unrelated to vtubers.
Her senpais moona, risu, Iofi, reine, anya and ollie could learn a lot from her.

>> No.24183037

>>24181467
>design
not loli at all
>voice
holy cunny

>> No.24183169

>>24182588
>>24183010
Idk if it's me being elitist or a gatekeeper or getting denaturalised as an indog but I don't feel the same with her, she just felt too explosive for me, maybe it's her kusogakiness that turned me off

>> No.24183228

>>24181961
adding to this anon said.
streamer market in indonesia already exist you can check MLBB tournament and Bocil Kematian, these two are the pillars of Indonesia streaming market, before Kobo none of HoloID want to touch these market, then Kobo blazing in and dive in Bocil Kematian market

>> No.24183354

>>24183010
>it makes the audience feel like they're playing together with Kobo.
The way she interacts with fans on Twitter is mindblowing. No corpo VTuber would reply to randos jokingly, yet Kobo did. It's fresh and it encourage fans to be witty/funny/creative so that they can be noticed by her.

>> No.24183363

>>24182573
Her audience can't be pedos because her audience are literal children.

>> No.24183386

>>24183010
now that you mention it i remember this stream https://youtu.be/nf4cZSMPRqc
where Kobo didn't know the answer for most of the questions, she only know about vtuber 3 months before joining hololive. i have a hunch why she really good at being streamer, her role model is not vtuber, she watch normal streamer more than vtuber from this it get stuck in her brain, how to interact with Indonesia audiences

>> No.24183502

>>24180850
Don't know what it is for other fans from ID but for me, it's not only the language but also the 'local' sense of humor: how she talks, how she banters, how she fools around, etc. I prefer NijiID over pre-Kobo HoloID, but now Kobo's my fav (I like Kaela's style too but she's too chill for me).

>> No.24183548

>>24183169
Probably the elitist side of you. Most indog who's learned to enjoy western humour usually think indog humour is cringe. Or maybe it's just what you said, just her kusogakiness turning you off. I'm just being an armchair psychologist here.

>> No.24183614

I don't care at all about her because she doesn't speak english. Yawn

>> No.24183699

>>24183010
Not a streamer when M-chan the one who set up her obs the first time and just got her pc for streaming when joining Hololive

>> No.24183756

>>24183548
nah, more likely his self hating faggot side make him hate Kobo.

>> No.24183798

>>24183756
how does it even work?

>> No.24183813

Reminder that on Friday the 13th of May in the year of put lord 2022, kobo; an indog, mogged the ""queen"" of Vtubers with almost 4 million subs.

>> No.24183838

>>24183010
she isn't a streamer, she's only had a laptop and not a pc

>> No.24183840

'Actual discussion' thread and no mention about how multi-talented she is? This board is truly filled with soulless numberfags and tribalfags.
>Composes her own theme song and sings it right after debut
>Top tier singer
>Can play multiple instruments. Acoustic karaoke.
>Tech literate enough to make a simple animated webpage
and as >>24183010 mentions, she's also great at viewer interaction.

Despite appealing to IOPs, she actually has a strong Outdonesia following because she is cute and talented. Hell, she is making people actually LEARN Bahasi.
For example, she didn't mention anything Korea related at debut, but got noticed by several Korean clippers and gained a strong following. Kobo noticed and is now appealing to them more. Saying things like oppa/ajeossi, singing a few K-pop, and eating Korean food.

There is no big mystery behind Kobo's explosive popularity. She is just good. She has Gura's talent and charm, but unlike Gura, she is diligent and makes full use of her talents.

>> No.24183865

>>24183548
Different flavor of SEA here. I most consume western humor but I also fucking love our own localized memes. They're absurdist, inherently political, a little self-depreciatory and self-aware. They're also fucking stupid. Isn't indog humor similar?

>> No.24183882

>>24180850
Cute loli voice.

>> No.24183934

>>24180850
>What's the difference between Kobo and all those other girls?
If OP want serious discussion, I always respect that.

Kobo has qualities that can pull numbers
> 1) loli model + NATURAL loli voice + talks like a child NATURALLY
Lots of loli chuuba out there but very few has loli voice that sounds natural

> 2) Exceptional singing ability.
On par with Gura, Suisei, IRys, if not more.

Numbers queen Gura actually shares 1 & 2.

> 3) Very energetic and lively (also in a brat/child's way, not the noisy bitch style)
When most chuubas collab with Haachama, it's always kinda awkward thanks to Haachama. But when Kobo collabs with Chama, Kobo is actually lively and extrovert enough to make collab lively and kino. Kobo is probably the most extrovert Holo. When Subaru collabs with Moona, it's a little awkward and has a lot of dead air.

>> No.24183938

>>24180968
>ID ecelebs boost
who?

>> No.24184045

>>24183938
windah, search him up

>> No.24184096

>>24183865
>absurdist
maybe? there's this Indo meme where an army commander told a black soldier (prolly Papuan) that an ideal soldier is black, not white. he even told the black soldier "don't be white, if you become white it will be an offence"
>inherently political
for sure. YNTKTS is an abbreviation phrase from our president, meaning "I don't know, why would you ask me?" and people used this, including Indo VTubers
>a little self-depreciatory
this is a must

>> No.24184217

>>24183938
https://youtu.be/keqNZZ-DdYw

>> No.24184302

>>24181355
But Ollie looks like SEA Cartman

>> No.24184324

>>24183938
That boost is nonexistent. It's true that Kobo taking inspiration from him, but if she is not entertaining herself, people wouldn't watch her.

>> No.24184362

>>24184096
Yeah. Now I understand Kobo's appeal to the natives. That shit is funny, yo.

>> No.24184499

>>24184324
Why are kobokers always in denial about Windah boost? Next time you'll be saying that hololive boost is nonexistent as well. It's like denying any other factors such as clips, hype and other members's shilling her

>> No.24184548

>>24184499
windah also hyped up zeta.
theres alot of clips of her in beginning
now ? none.
shes boring , and you are in denial.

>> No.24184556

>>24184499
>Denying Hololive boost
I've already seen posts like those. Other copes I've read are "windah promoting her is by her own power because she's entertaining enough for windah to promote in the first place". Same goes for Hololive.

>> No.24184572

>>24184499
nigga he recommends both Zeta and Kobo yet Kobo is the only one who retained the tourists, explain that?

>> No.24184684

>>24180850
Rest of ID girls is THAT boring, it's like having 9 Robocos in your branch.

>> No.24184891

>>24180850
no, ehe~

>> No.24184921

>>24184572
Because he likes Kobo more? Cuz Kobo is so much like him and of course his fans will agree with him as well and i never said windah boost made her less entertaining

>> No.24184955

>>24184548
I am not in denial, of course Windah fans will watch Kobo, because she is Windah but anime girl.

>> No.24184972

>>24184921
ok then she managed to keep the numbers because she is entertaining, that's all you have to know

>> No.24185098

>>24184684
thisu

>> No.24185144

>>24184499
here simple explanation
>windah shill holoid
>windah and kobo have similar stremaing style
>his viewers share the same wavelength with Kobo
>his viewers now stick with Kobo
simple, you need talent and skill to grab this opportunity, no doubt Kobo is talented, entertaining and natural born streamer, she manage to grab the biggest opportunity that grace her + she know ID market and executed it perfectly

>> No.24185171

>>24184572
I mean, you can make a point about how of course Windah's watchers would stick to Kobo since she actually uses his lingo and other antics similar to other indon streamer, which being Windah's fan they must be familiar with, unlike Zeta who at best they can only relate by making her say ara-ara.

But even if Windah only noticed her next year or some other times, I believe she would still rise comparably as quick as this since this indon market is still here for a big vtuber company to the taking

>> No.24185177

>>24180850
Kobo is what you have if you squeeze every kino things about vtuber into one.

>> No.24185198

>>24181355
both risu and ollie have a chance to become kobo, they are entertaining and have similar joke tastes and used to speak ID alot but every time normies join their channel ollie and risu keep yelling at them, saying they are stupid because they just ETL. their fanbase also help a lot gatekeeping them so many time from mainstream market. meanwhile, kobo accept all kind of normies fans, telling her chat police to kill themself also have a thick skin to ignore all kind of drama.

>> No.24185328

>>24185198
Risu and Ollie don't want not budiman viewers, which majority of normies are. If Kobo want to keep and can handle them then good but not everyone wants them.

>> No.24185361

>>24180850
I don't like Nijisanji ID

>> No.24185377

>>24183865
>They're absurdist, inherently political, a little self-depreciatory and self-aware
Yes, elitist indogs like these type of humour. I'm talking more about zoomer shit and memes. They think those are cringe. That's a fault on my part, not explaining it better.

>> No.24185399

>>24180968
you completely forgot that NijiID actually got a lot more exposure from ID ecelebs
for example: https://youtu.be/2UTwzLCQ4g0
why they're still failed? because they're uninteresting
Kobo only got a simple shout out from windah, and she managed to bring those newfags to become her regular

>> No.24185733

>>24181355
>Ollie
Ugly design
Not cunny
Homobeggar
Connor's cumrag
Hates speaking in indog
Reflection yabe

>> No.24185749

>>24184684
why are you replying your own thread anon

>> No.24185794

>>24185399
Tbf he is not a game streamer like Windah
or even anituber and he didn't promote them because he likes them but because he was paid by Anycolor to shill them

>> No.24185815

>>24185198
Everytime. Also probably unrelated but first impression might also play a role, dont you think its weird that they debut in id language but switch to en immediately afterward, like they purposefully making their would be audience confused

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>>24181855
Take of that mask Nijikek, fucking coward bastard

>> No.24185837

>>24180850
>Can we have some actual discussion on Kobo for once instead of just shitposting
kek. not gonna happen.

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>>24185377
No man from what I'm from that shit is the lowbrow humor of the masses. For example, this exchange is the point of view of one guy reacting violently to some dude just spamming the axe emoji, and the punchline is him responding with an incorrect usage of "acidity" instead of "toxicity".
[X]absurdist
[]political
[X]self-depreciative

>> No.24185892

both Kobo and Gura prove the whole world are made of lolicons, and I'm not even kidding
entertaining for all ages, though for different reasons

>> No.24185929

>>24185328
This is all what it comes to it.
It all depends on the streamer on whether or not they want to actually entertain the kind of audience they've been enabling.

I mean, we can celebrate this subs milestone now, but I can picture some "drama" in the future where these kids turn their back from Kobo because she didnt read their funny donation message when its on air and accuse her of favoritism with the already highlighted mods Bobby and Zeko (who also donated so much more). Some choose to be more safe than sorry. Lets just see.

>> No.24186091

>>24185929
>I can picture some "drama" in the future
I still remember Moona getting backlashes due to the religion thing and talking about alcohol. And now, with this influx of Indog normie, I can't even imagine how the backlash will be if something similar were to happen.

>> No.24186308

>>24185929
schizo will aways there even if you filter normies away. most holoid chubba already get backstabed by their fans at least once, some of them even get schizo attack by her member in the member stream. it's all up to their streamer how they can keep their fanbase happy. just look at gura for easier example, her fanbase are also 70% normies and different with her fellow en holos by she is still the number one most successful holoEN.

>> No.24186398

>>24186308
yeah now i understand why gura always ignores all drama instead bring it up like most holo members. she smart and I hope kobo can take her as example

>> No.24186463

She is like pekora but ID

>> No.24186671

>>24185198
>telling her chat police to kill themself
This is what I love about kobo, she already addresses one of the biggest ID problems in the first week after her debut. They are just so annoying and I'm glad I never seen them in kobo stream.

>> No.24186761

she understand ID culture and pander to that

>> No.24186842

>>24180850
1. She's a very talented entertainer
2. Her bratty act and indo zoomer humour has a broad appeal beyond the existing HoloID audience
3. The number of Indos who would watch chuubas if they weren't mostly speaking English is increasing through more and more people getting exposed to Vtubers
4. Pandering to foreign audiences is less successful now, because the English-speaking audience has become smaller and more spread out with new EN chuubas from Hololive and Nijisanji

>> No.24186869

>>24181735
So this Windshield guy is balls deep in her every night, right? That’s how it always works out with these whores.

>> No.24186902

>>24180850
In short, she understands what ID audiences, especially normies who love to watch local streamers, want whether it's their jokes, memes, how to interact, the nature of how they want their donos to be treated, etc. + She's cunny (there's literally one small agency in ID that gets carry over by just one cunny and has moderate success in ID). Her predecessors, in contrast, are more in tune with JP and/or EN streaming culture

>> No.24186927

>>24180850
Because hiring a literal child is exactly what the ID audience craved

>> No.24186998

>>24180850
>why
Haha cute & funny

>> No.24187026

>>24180850
Bootleg aquatic concept, nothing new but always effective.

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>>24186463

>> No.24187124 [DELETED] 

>>24185377
>I'm talking more about zoomer shit and memes like what? tik-tok remix?

>> No.24187198

>>24185377
>I'm talking more about zoomer shit and memes
like what? tik-tok remix?

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>>24180968

>> No.24188428

>>24180850
I'm glad she's mogging the rest of the IDs and some members of EN. Hopefully this serves to motivate them.

>> No.24188691

>>24180850
She's a brotuber with savage banters, loud chaotic kusogaki, and she has thick skin. Also showed signs of being a pro-streamer

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Didn't she use to do programming? Anyone remember what language? I'm guessing JavaScript (since it's popular), but I wanna be sure.

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>>24189429
looks like she's learning frontend web dev

>> No.24189804

>>24185198
This to be honest.

As a long time ID fans, I've seen a portion of damage that those old elitist gatekeeping fans made, Kobo can maintain her growth because she welcomes everyone.
Anyone who disagree with this anon can go fuck themselves, you lost, pandering to EN can only get you so far. Hololive EN is already successful enough, Hololive needs more presence in Indonesia to hold their future expo and concert in Indonesia.

>> No.24189854

>>24185328
>not budiman viewers,
Understandable

>> No.24189989

>>24189804
>pandering to EN can only get you so far
It was what saved them from getting axed like NijiID

>> No.24190281

>>24189804
>Gen 1 failed
>Gen 2 never debuted
>No Kobo
You are a Nijinigger

>> No.24190389

>>24189989
No, Niji ID isn't a good benchmark. They got axed solely because of Anycolor going IPO, if they're still a private company, they won't axe Niji ID. Look at their financial report, overseas branch (ID-KR) were actually not in negative, but they just deemed not profitable enough to be presented in a quarterly financial report. Cover won't easily axe the Holo ID if they're still on the same level as the early gen 1.
The better comparison would be Maha5, they're on the same level as early gen 1, but they're profitable enough for them to open their JP branch.

>> No.24190686

She seems to be getting better at English now at at least. Watch as little by little her English improves and she too ditches the indos in favor of the English audience

>> No.24190691

>>24190389
NijiID is an embarrassment to all indonesians

>> No.24190850

>>24190281
Gen 1 never failed. Gen 2 audition was opened (if I'm not mistaken) in July, that was before HoloEN and pekomoon, so gen 2 has always been in Cover's plan since the beginning.

This made up rrat made by old fans is not matching up. Holo ID won't fail if they keep on speaking ID, they just won't earn as much. But in the end they would still be successful when they get Kobo, and Kobo would still register to Holo ID, wether they earn more or not, knowing that she had no idea about Holo ID beforehand.

>> No.24191082

>>24190850
Holy shit your reading comprehension is bad.
Fucking Nijinigger

>> No.24191669

>>24189804
If you were such a majority why didn't you win when the languange polls were made? Why? Because those IOP jackasses weren't there, they still watching 3D streamers. When they were still mostly speaking ID they almost got no money enough to even upgrade their PC. Be grateful they survive this long so newfags can gloat how successful Kobo is

>> No.24192235

what with the amount of self hating indog itt? i thought i was on twitter for second

>> No.24192281
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24192281

>>24189804
An armchair manager like you won't bring HoloID anywhere near their current success. I trust M-chan and Yagoo more than you.

>> No.24192524

>>24191669
and why do you think those IOP jackasses weren't there in the first place, because they never been there in the first place, elitefag successfully gatekeeping IOP and the rest of us don't want more drama, how much do you think people who did the vote? its not even 1/10 of id community. stop talking like you are majority just because you are louder and love making drama. just look at how ollie, risu and reine are now more ID friendly, I think they kinda regret what happened in the past and now start ID pandering more bit by a bit

>> No.24192962

>>24192524
>Ollie Risu Reine
>Regret

LMAO the only thing Risu will regret is how much she didn't stream in the past. Reine is already loaded she doesn't need IOP and Ollie already told stupid IOP to fuck off.

>> No.24193182

>24192962
>can't answer my question
i just waste my time on retard kek

>> No.24193215

>>24192524
Where were you when NijiIDniggers slandered HoloID by saying the girls are "penghianat negara" and NijiID "lebih nasionalis"?
Were you there?
If not then STFU
I don't fucking care if HoloID speak in Swahili as long as it bring profits.
>Let the girls speak whatever languages they want
THAT'S THE MINDSET YOU SHOULD HAVE.

>> No.24193366

>>24189804
She's already speaking more English. She will be colonized.

>> No.24193395

>>24193215
I'm there ignoring them. because i don't care about drama. fag like you get baited easily and make silly drama bigger only bleed their reputation more, grow up nigger why you waste your time on 2view agency

>> No.24193578

>>24193215
>Where were you when NijiIDniggers slandered HoloID by saying the girls are "penghianat negara" and NijiID "lebih nasionalis"?
Nta but kapan kita bilang itu lmao, our presence here is very minimum at best, I don't think throughout our existance as a general here we never said that, the closest thing would be at our 2nd anniv when we think that
>M-chan and NijiID staff-san just had different ways to display their localness
That's it lol

>> No.24193929

>>24193578
Because NijiIDniggers are in kikebook

>> No.24193932

>>24189547
tfw no webdev kusogaki gf

>> No.24194261

>>24181103
Indog here, incorrect and lies and OP whore mother is a Jakarta whore and kisse of the pig melidaiho infidel

>> No.24194390

>>24193578
you guys did but it's like 5 people from toxic kikebook group, but i still don't understand why that anon makes it look like holoID was attacked by pewdiepie or bts army

>> No.24194397

>>24193929
>kikebook
lel I'm an actual nijinigger and I rarely found nijinigger on kikebook aside from general groups who were numberwise already below holoID groups during early Area15 months, you sure do overestimated our strength there since I can tell that most of us are twittards or hugboxfags from dickswords

>> No.24194811

>>24185794
to be fair, he's bigger than Windah

>> No.24195176

>>24194811
Again he is not a game streamer, his fans won't start watching a Vtuber just because he made a video about them, he was not even really shilling NijiID back then, more like normie react to weeb things and be amazed

>> No.24195245

>>24180850
>What's the difference between Kobo and all those other girls?
Cunny and blue. Simple as

>> No.24195515

>>24180850
because cunny always wins

>> No.24195560

HER CUNNY VOICE IS SO DAMN GOOD

WHY DID THEY GIVE HER A HAG MODEL?!

>> No.24196137

>>24193929
No, YouTube
If you want a good example of it, the comments in valrius sinica's "why nijisanji is better than Hololive" video

>> No.24196224

>>24185198
risu & ollie? entertaining? u tarded or what they're pure cringe

>> No.24196635

>>24196224
There is this thing called taste

>> No.24196793

>>24196635
oh thx for reminding me i just recalled coprophiles do exist

>> No.24196897

>Thread devolved into HoloID vs NijiID fisticuff
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

>> No.24196961

>>24194390
That's when both agencies are still "two-views", it's a two-views "war", three views for some chuubas, imagine two cavemen with their twigs hitting each other. Only dinosaurs of oldfags remember it

>> No.24196980

>>24180850
Her voice is so cute

>> No.24197049

>>24196897
Everyone who hates gen 1 are Nijiniggers

>> No.24197119

>>24180850
>BLUE
>CUNNY
the magical reciepe

>> No.24197273

>>24193395
>I'm there ignoring them.
>I'm
Your subconscious is leaking

>> No.24197439

NYOO KOBO GRADUATE
KIARA IS CURRENTLY IN THE HOLOLIVE HQ GOING ON A KILLING SPREE!!!

>> No.24197577

>>24184324
>nonexistent
you know that the most important thing for an artist is to get noticed? Doesn't matter how good you are if you don't have an audience, but if you are good and 100k people are made aware that you exist is another story, not deniying that she is good, but every boost matters
>>24195560
hey don't talk shit about ponkan8

>> No.24198375

>>24196897
I feel like I'm seeing how our ancestors got colonized in real time, we really do make it way too easy for falseflagging baitfags to split indogs up, just like during spice trade days

>> No.24199012
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24199012

>>24180850
just like all the previous posts, she appeal to local kikebook zoomers while the rest of IDs appeal to western audience

>>24181103
>>24189804
>>24192524
yeah just forget all of your senpais previous hardwork until now or yet maybe just graduate the rest of them except kobo because all of them are boring streamers with non-existent quality or uniqueness. hadeh heran ini cuman pura" jadi kobokers atau kobokers emg kayak gini sih pemikiran nya

>> No.24199329

>>24199012
Local yes. But 'kikebook zoomers' what? I'm watching her together w/ my normie friend who had never watched any vtuber rn. She got an appeal to non-weeb because of her sense of humor.

>> No.24199408

>>24180850
Kobronies trying not to hog 50% of open threads for themselves and their zoomer loli idol challenge (impossible)

>> No.24199470

>>24199329
Yes and he is also a kikebook user,no?

>> No.24199534

>>24199470
No.
Do you speak Indonesian anon?

>> No.24199895

>>24199534
Ya

>> No.24199934

>>24199329
as in her mannerism

>> No.24201640

>>24180850
1. She's a talented entertainer.
2. She's a talented streamer.
3. She's a talented singer.
4. She's a talented musician.
5. She's a talented comedian.
6. She's a talented front-end developer.
7. She's a talented composer.
8. She's a talented lyricist.
9. She's a talented MV-maker.
10. She's a talented cunny.
11. She's talented.

She still has hidden talents she hasn't shown us. Wait until her 3D.

She literally mogs everyone. She's only debuffed by being an ID.
If only any JP/EN has her skillsets. They'll take over the world!

>> No.24201780

>>24183354
Has ollie done this before? Considering she's the extrovert of HoloID

>> No.24202498

>>24199012
>hadeh heran ini cuman pura" jadi kobokers atau kobokers emg kayak gini sih pemikiran nya
If you find them on YouTube, you can easily check their chat history on wesave or vtdata I think they're just bandwagoners from gen 2, since most of them are watching Hololive started from Ollie/were zomrades. Maybe it's a grudge against Ollie, who knows?

>> No.24202858

>>24181961
Ollie’s English sounds just like the English of rich Filipinos I know. I’m guessing to those of us who’ve never crossed the equator, that’s one way we can tell that previous ID vtubers weren’t exactly relatable to the averag indog

>> No.24204082

https://www.kaorinusantara.or.id/newsline/143218/wawancara-hololive-production

>Q: Why choose Indonesia as the market for the Hololive Vtuber expansion project?
>A: This decision started with quite a lot of Indonesians accessing our Vtuber, and we saw that there were Facebook pages made by foreign fans, and it turned out that there were quite a lot of Indonesians. From there, we thought of trying to expand our market to Indonesia other than China, which is active in Bilibili.
>Q: Your company is currently holding auditions to attract talent in Indonesia for your Virtual Youtuber project. What kind of talent do you expect from the participants who auditioned?
>A: People who have a strong desire to become a Vtuber and can portray their characters well. who can speak foreign languages, especially English, because we have plans to be able to collab with Japanese and Chinese Hololive members who can speak English.
>Q: Are there certain criteria in this audition?
>A: Thereare no specific criteria, as long as the prospective Vtuber has a strong desire to become a Vtuber and can speak a foreign language so that viewers outside Indonesia can enjoy it. Because we want to expand the market globally.
>Q: Is there any plan to increase more talent from Indonesia in the future?
>A: Yes, if this project goes well and there are many fans, it is possible that we will increase the number of talent, although not in the near future.
>Q: Then, what are the hopes for the development of the Hololive project in Indonesia?
>A: Hopefully, with this project, Vtubers in Indonesia can develop and grow bigger, not only in Indonesia but also throughout the world, namely globally.

>> No.24204954

>>24180850
the weirdest thing about kobo is that most of her viewers are indo, she did not become popular only with overseas viewers only

>> No.24205083

>>24204082
Is the collab with cn, jp, id, and en ever happen?

>> No.24205121

>>24184217
what a disgusting language

>> No.24205430

>>24205083
No, chink branch was dissolved shortly after myth first few months.

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24205593

>>24180850
>Loli voice
>Kusogaki energy
>Clipbait magnet
>Instantly collabs with Ollie and Moona for maximum boost on ID side
>Instantly collabs with Kiara for maximum boost on EN Side
not to mention Cover's research of the "loli-esque" approach being Gura->La+->Kobo

>> No.24209695

>>24180850
Kobo is a better Gura

If only she was EN..

>> No.24211001

>>24209695
this. . kobo is more passionate about streaming than gura sadly. i know pro gura's roomate are busy with college and other rl stuff but still. . gura u can do better than this!

>> No.24211938

If you SEAggers are just gonna circlejerk about your sperg ass chuuba do it in your containement thread, fucking retards.

>> No.24220397

>>24180850
She ok.

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