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>JP Holos think Baelz will be the next Gura
>All of them line up for collabs
>Turns out she's Mel tier
>They all drop her like a sack of potatos
Damn...

>> No.24147076

>>24147029
EN only here, what does Mel-tier mean in this context?

>> No.24147128
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>>24147076
>EN only here

>> No.24147229

>>24147029
>the next gura
I don't remember the JPs collabing much with Gura. The collabs I do remember were awkward and shit.

>> No.24147378

>>24147229
Because Gura doesn't speak Japanese

>> No.24147387

>>24147128
I don't speak moon speak, watching the jap streams would bring me literally zero dopamine until they get translated, since I'm one of those autists that needs to be able to understand literally everything in order to not get pissed off and leave

>> No.24147577

>>24147029
> Mel tier

The mating press tier?

>> No.24147681

>Turns out she's Mel tier
Damn I didn't know Bae was this fucking cute, I should start watching her
Does she still hang with the wrong crowd?

>> No.24147759

wasted model

>> No.24147838

Troll thread aside, it does look like JP has dropped EN as a whole these days. No one mentions them outside of calling the sharks in that raft Game "gura." I think they gave up on the branch as a whole after all their reaching out went no where.

>> No.24147856

>>24147387
why the fuck are you watching hololive? i thought the only reason watched hololive was to pretend they're doing japanese reps by watching some girl babble incoherently and learning nothing.

>> No.24148005

>>24147838
EN is fucking lazy as hell and their numbers are dropping through the floor. Western women don't make good vtubers.

>> No.24148160

>>24147029
I really hate the blatant numberfagging from the JP side. Like pretty much every single JP Kiara collab was initiated by kiara herself while they're probably waiting in a line to collab with mori

>> No.24148237

>>24147838
JP mems are numberfags and stopped caring when Ens numbers went to shit.

>> No.24148353

>>24147029
Bae was hyped up too much b4 her debut. She was labeled the Gura killer and all that changed after her garbage debutz however the Rat has improved greatly since then and would have no problem securing Collabs with Holo JPers

>> No.24148385

>>24148005
You retarded eop, most of the JPs have gone inactive.

>> No.24148391

>>24147856
Vtubers are the most honest women streamers that exist. Yes, even the ENtubers. It's as good as it's going to get if you give a shit about authentic women. If you think that's sad, then yes, it is sad. But it's the modern world we live in.

>> No.24148403

>>24148160
Numbers are all that matters. The way EN fags think vtubing is some naruto shit about the power of friendship and not about reach is fucking atrocious.

JP vtubers are driven, ambitious and work hard. EN vtubers are lazy, complacent and want to NEET it up with their moonthly membership stipend. Compare Suisei to any EN and it's night and day.

>> No.24148491

>>24148160
Japs are pre-programmed with a celebrity fetish. Laplus being a blatantly honest penultimate variant of this.
Numbers are the only thing that gets them off, because if they had to think about things like personal morals, spiritual health, and a sense of belonging, the suicide forest is gonna need Mr Beast's help planting more trees.

>> No.24148540

>>24148353
Amazing, every word of what you just said is wrong !

>> No.24148556
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24148556

>>24147076
>EN only

>> No.24148651

>>24147128
>>24147856
>>24148556


You will never be Japanese.

>>24148403
>driven, ambitious and work hard
Shion and Ayame just work so hard bro!

>> No.24148664

>>24147029
>>JP Holos think Baelz will be the next Gura
they barely even collabed with gura
>All of them line up for collabs
because she can speak japanese and she reached out first

>> No.24148740

>>24148664
>they barely even collabed with gura
Gura doesn't speak Japanese.

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>>24148491
>f they had to think about things like personal morals, spiritual health, and a sense of belonging
Ah yes the decadent west, exemplars of personal morality and spiritual health. Now go eat your 5th Big Mac while waiting for your dick to be lopped off tranny.

>> No.24148898

>>24148403
Hahahahaha
Suisei: Streamed 235 hours since July 2021.
Kiara: Streamed 1,000 hours since July 2021, also releases songs.
Mori: Streamed 730 hours since July 2021 and does way more songs than Suisei.

>> No.24148955

>>24148862
larping as japanese or sea?

>> No.24149063

>>24148898
Suisei Template - 2.6 million views released 1st April

Mori Unalive 1.4 million views released 22nd March

>> No.24149099

>>24148651
Do you know you actually don’t need to be Japanese to understand Japanese and not be retarded? I know it sounds unreal but it’s possible. You should try it yourself instead of wasting your time watching side branch shit.
>Shion
Clinically depressed; borderline suicidal. You would know this if you actually followed her even for 10 minutes.
>Ayame
A lazy whore, yes, but the only lazy whore out of over 40 talents. She’s EN’s representative in JP.

>> No.24149158

>>24149063
I mean, Mori is more popular and harder working than Suisei, and Suisei admits it and looks up to her as her oshi, so idk what you weebs are trying to argue anymore.

>> No.24149180

>>24148862
Not saying the west is much better. Our suicide rate has been approaching yours for the last few decades. Specifically because our cultural practices have been approaching yours.

>> No.24149183

>>24149099
>wasting your time watching side branch shit
Don't watch EN, just like seeing you seethe

>Clinically depressed; borderline suicidal. You would know this if you actually followed her even for 10 minutes.

Don't care; she should quit then.

>> No.24149318

>>24149099
Aqua: barely streams
Ayame: barely streams
Shione: barely streams
Suisei: barely streams
Marine: barely streams
All stream less than SANA. EN is way harder working, it's not even close.

>> No.24149320

>>24149183
she has nothing else, she's a high school dropout and likely estranged from her parents. She can't quit.

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>>24149063

>> No.24149442

>>24147029
>Loud
>First streams were half JP/half EN (seriously pick a side trying to speak both at the same time slows the streams)
>Her most popular clip is HerXRoberu but she never capitalized with it so she lost both shippfags and gachikois
>always picks Gura's timeslot to overlap
>misses unity minecraft streams
The rat kills herself more and more,

>> No.24149473

>>24148540
It's all true. Before council's debut Rat is in the middle of the Promo so people assumed she's the leader. Cunny model so people assumed she's going to be the Gura killer. Her debut was shit as were her streams for months afterwards. The Rat has been inclining for awhile now.

>> No.24149490

>>24149318
It isn't fair to paint Marine within the same stroke as others. She won't be streaming much at all. Her voice will be a chronic problem.

>> No.24149604

>>24149320
Oh wow, wonder why she's so fucking depressed. She's a failure in a man's world, and by the sounds of it she refuses to be a woman. Someone should save her. Unfortunate that none of us are JP

>> No.24149658

>>24149490
She should quit then.

>> No.24149668

the jps saw how the ENs treated haachama, and no matter how hard she tried to connect with them especially after coco left, they kept ignoring her
this is the jp retaliation for one of their dai-senpais
this is the rrat I'll believe
have fun watching irys cardboard again during the sora 3D stream kek

>> No.24149747

>>24149668
I beleeb

>> No.24149865

but seriously though, do you ever feel weird about how much time you dedicate to literal eceleb gossip?

>> No.24149962

>>24149668
Makes sense, actually. To be fair, it doesn't help that Haachama's entire brand is being unapproachable, while ALSO being too shy to actually approach anyone else. Haachama did this to herself, but EN is still at fault for not noticing this obvious shit and reaching out anyways.

>> No.24150001

>>24149490
That's fine, but the EN girls also have health issues crop up sometimes.

>> No.24150086

>>24150001
Ok and? They should fucking quit too. This ain't a charity, it is a business.

>> No.24150110

>>24149668
Doesn't make sense considering their fights with her, like Matsuri and Haachama drama.

>> No.24150170

>>24149668
I will take you meds away, and my meds and flush them down the toilet because I will also believe this

>> No.24150193

>>24148491
only a certain number of holos are such numberfags not the entire nation of japan

>> No.24150215

>>24149318
Out of those the only really lazy whore is Ayame. Shion is terminally depressed and the rest actually work harder than any EN in any wet dream you have.
>muh EN streams more than Marine, Suisei and Aqua.
Besides the fact Marine is also sick, EN don’t have weekly radio shows, singing lessons, dance lessons, voice training, constant mandated sponsorships, concerts, Cover official streams, fan meetings, events (like cafe partnerships), orisongs, cover songs and actual standards on what to stream. And even without being this busy EN barely streams. Holy mother of cope. Seek help and have standards for yourself.

>> No.24150280

>>24150086
no, the business model requires sickly girls to become their fans' wives.

>> No.24150290

isn't the /jp/ thread a better place for this kind of content?

>> No.24150419

>>24149490
Wait, is it confirmed to be chronic? As in, she can't never go back to her previous pace without fucking over her throat?
I thought it was a one time thing.

>> No.24150452

>>24150215
"My hour singing lesson once a week makes it so I can't stream!"

Suisei, probably.

>> No.24150460

>>24150215
AHAHAHAHA holy shit you've lost your mind, EN does way more. You literally listed things that EN also does. It's okay bro, I understand you lie just to troll for attention.

>> No.24150528

>>24150193
Japan is literally the nation of numberfagging, the fuck are you on

>> No.24150606

>>24149180
Typical western faggot refusing to accept culpability for literally causing your own issues. You live on the internet, buddy. You don't know shit. Why don't you try getting out and actually talking to somebody?

>> No.24150647

>>24150606
t.western

>> No.24150659

>>24150452
Cope. You are watching the shitty side branch because you’re an EOP subhuman who can’t speak Japanese and try to cope believing the twitch e-thots Cover hired to larp with live2Ds offer anything close to quality content. Also seethe.

>> No.24150684

>>24150606
I knew you were a jap lmao. Have fun with your 14 hour work days. We aren't there quite yet, but we're getting there quickly, with our suicide rates rising to match. We'll have a suicide competition to see whose forests fill up faster.

>> No.24150717

>>24149183
You don't watch vtubers at all, you just come here to shitpost right?

>> No.24150718

>>24150659
I don't watch ENs.

>> No.24150731

This thread is trash. And the people who are proudly boasting about watching dubbed anime? Seriously what the actual fuck? Anime is absolutely sterile without the very peculiar performative, exaggerated expression of Japanese acting. You're just watching regular streamers. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if you also watch flesh streamers, or used to. Gross.

>> No.24150764

why are some people so self-hating?

>> No.24150785

>>24149962
exactly, can you imagine the surprise the jps must've felt when the usually shy and unapproachable haachama takes this big of an entitative to really try her best and reach out to the ENs? even when her English isn't that great she still tried her best....and you know what must've surprised them even more? that they aired her like this and pretty much ignored her.
there hasn't been a single proper interaction between amelia and haachama on stream since the 27th of December 2020 you know!
>>24150110
anonchama there was never an actual fight, if you watched their streams, you'd know they talked to each other and about each other way before the collab at the beginning of the year happened
what actually happened is a simple misunderstanding and they made up on stream, simple as that.
haachama thought she was in the wrong but is too shy to actually initiate and nudge matsuri to properly apologize to her, and matsuri likewise, she thought it was her fault for making those tweets but promptly deleted them and apologized

>> No.24150808

>>24150718
Sure, you don’t. Here, last (You). Don’t fap too hard to it.

>> No.24150863

>>24149962
None of the ENs care about Hololive

>> No.24150918

>>24150808
>>24150717
You do realize there are vtubers that speak other languages right? English isn't even my first language.

This is your brain on being an EOP.

>> No.24150932

>>24147229
Gura did get a lot of initial praise, even bordering on awe, from the JPs. Of course because she's just such an outstanding cute&funny girl, but also because they were so intimidated by her meteoric rise.

It has mostly died down now, part of it is simple time and growing accustomed, realizing beyond the numbers she's also "just" another coworker, part of it is because she's EOP and rather withdrawn there's not much utility that will come out of trying to suck up to her anyway

>> No.24150929

>>24150863
Because they aren’t hololive.

>> No.24150975

>>24149668
rratbro...I kneel
that's a fucking rrat if I've ever seen one

>> No.24150979

>>24150785
Once Mumei gets over her own innate bottom-ness, hopefully she'll reach out to Haachama. I think she wants to, and those two together would be a really fun collab.

>> No.24151001

>>24150718
You are not Japanese.

>> No.24151011

>>24150785
Well, they tried collabs with Haachama and they were kinda awkward with her just giggling a lot. The reality set in that you kinda need to be fluent in the same language in order to interact well.

>> No.24151029

Not that I'm saying Shion's depression isn't real, but Kronii has it too the board gets mad at her for not streaming. Then again, I don't think anyone here is arguing with good faith and just use this thread to validate their own biases.

I'd like Shion to stream more though, I miss her singing.

>> No.24151036

>>24149099
>wasting yourself learning japanese
>finally learning japanese
>wait, they are talking about their cat all this time?
Always have been
Return to /jp/, retard

>> No.24151037

>>24147076
Everyone wanted to rape Mel.

>> No.24151042

>>24150215
why are the jp whores so lazy? I thought their superior nip DNA could save them from being useless

>> No.24151089

>>24150764
People started acting like retards for (You)s, eventually the actual retards felt like they belong here and stopped holding their retardation back, as a result, vee tee is now a cesspool of shitposting retards who aren't even interested in vtubers in the first place

>> No.24151120

>>24150918
>Already outed myself as someone who watches JP and understands Japanese.
>Speaking English.
>At least two languages.
>Somehow EOP.
So you’re retarded I see.

>> No.24151161

>>24151011
NTA but I can't lie, the only collabs I really didn't like between haachama and the ENs are the mori and kiara collabs
the one with mori teaching her bad words was good, but the first ones were too horrible
the rest were absolutely kino

>> No.24151187

>>24151089
>People started acting like retards for (You)s, eventually the actual retards felt like they belong here and stopped holding their retardation back, as a result
So classic 4chan? You can always undo this by having more generals in the board aka people who are actually invested enough to care about the state of their own threads.

>> No.24151205

>>24147029
I dropped her too when I heard her say bruuuuh and other garbage.

>> No.24151241

>>24151029
Kronii's coming out of her funk because she's realizing how nice it is to have friends. Japs, on the other hand, numberfag so hard that they forget to think of their coworkers as friends.

>> No.24151304

>>24151120
>watches JP and understands Japanese
Where did I say I understood Japanese?

My first language is Korean. My second language is English. It's not my fault you have no mastery over your sole language.

>> No.24151337

>>24151241
Yeah but, where's my Anya/Shion song collab?

>> No.24151379

>>24151241
JP is 10 times more interesting to watch though, which is all that matters

>> No.24151400

>>24151036
Imagine believing learning languages is a waste of time. This is prime mental retardation and mediocrity. It also shows how much of an incapable subhuman you are. Worse thing is that I pay taxes so people like you can get by. This world is beyond any trace of hope.

>> No.24151420

>>24149668
I dont believe this rrat, but it is bullshit how they all ignored haachama, so I'll gladly help you spread it going forward.

>> No.24151484

>>24151304
Retardedchama, I was talking about myself. Holy shit you need green text reps and reading comprehension reps.
I’ll give you a pass since if you’re Korean you can barely see shit though.

>> No.24151496

>>24149668
I don't need sources for this, I like it therefore I'll believe it

>> No.24151544
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>>24151037
Projekt Melody u mean?
Ew, No thanks

>> No.24151547

>>24151379
"Interesting" is a matter of taste and thus an irrelevant parameter for comparison. And I'd imagine watching vtubers in a language you're actually fluent to understand it's nuances is more enjoyable than watching a vtuber you don't understand or only understand on an elementary level. Which is why I'm rather curious why do Indonesians even bother watching EN and JP vtubers.

>> No.24151579

>>24151484
>it's not my fault you have no mastery over your sole language

never change, westoid, never change

>> No.24151664

>>24149668
This thread wasn’t a mistake just for this amazing ratt. I will believe it and spread it. Good job deciphering the truth, anon.

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>>24149668
>already collabed with some EN members
>they must be hate each other

>> No.24151725

>>24151379
I might have agreed with you if I spoke japanese, but i don't

>> No.24151752

>>24151579
Projecting much, Kim?

>> No.24151856

>>24151752
He's just mad burgers are buttfucking Samsung Dynasty-ruled "Republic" of Korea. Pretty funny too because Korean women are bigger whores than westoid women.

>> No.24151897

>>24151725
The thing is tho I really cannot comprehend why would people who don't understand jp or are tying to learn jp watch vtubers. I have tried EN. It's fucking garbage. Get the fuck out of here with whatever cover. Theyre either boring, or generic. There's much better entertainment out there. So, why the fuck do you watch chubas if not for language reps. It makes no fucking sense.

>> No.24151951

>>24151897
Why are numberfags like this
>Oh nonono I watch my vtubers to learn a language
fuck off and learn it the correct way, retard

>> No.24151988

>>24150215
you've been proven wrong, you don't have to double down over this shit and throw ayame under the bus time and time again

>> No.24152023

>>24151547
>not using EN thread filter for obvious reason
Just kys nigger
No one interested with your gatekeeeper nigger behavior, containment thread exist for reason

>> No.24152072

>>24151856
>Korean women are bigger whores than westoid women

Yep, glad I don't live there anymore.

>burgers are buttfucking Samsung Dynasty-ruled "Republic" of Korea

See above

>> No.24152074

>>24149158
Kill yourself

>> No.24152083

>>24151673
>>already collabed with some EN members
do you know when was the last time any of the myth girls collabed with her? on the 28th of august 2021
do you know when was the last time she collabed with fauna or kronii? never.
the only based EN is mumei for actually trying and not treating her like a retard, if mumei can actually communicate with her, I don't see why kronii and fauna wouldn't be able to
of course no one owes anyone a collab, that's given...but to say they aren't ignoring her after all that she did to try and collab with them? it's just dishonest of you

>> No.24152092

>>24151897
You’ve got the spirit, anon. Don’t conform with EN shit. Push forward, learn JP and enjoy everything JP related by yourself. You’re the kind of EOP that can be respected.
>>24151988
>proven wrong.
>no proof thus not wrong.
Kek. Try harder.

>> No.24152135

>>24148403
It’s always funny to me seeing fat nicely basement dwellers on 4ch talking about hard work, friendships and relationships when majority of you faggots haven’t touched a woman let along some grass in decades lol

>> No.24152180

>>24150452
She also does production for events, nigger

>> No.24152185

>>24149668
actually anonchama, to give your rrat a couple more legs
haachama has stated before that her favorite hololive song to listen to is actually reflect, but she's too afraid of singing it live because she doesn't want gura to hate her more than she does already

>> No.24152189

>>24152092
How much of a disappointment to your family are you, jap

>> No.24152206

>>24151897
Your entire argument is based on your personal preference. Some EN vtubers cater to a more EN(or western-internet) sensibilities. I'm no native speaker myself, but I've been on the English side of the internet for decades and some of these vtubers have the same experiences, and thus share our style of humor. And no, I do not mean the peepeepoopoo EN streamer shit, that's too zoomer for me.

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>>24147076
>EN only here

>> No.24152248

>>24152180
"My hour singing lesson and two hour production session once a week makes it so I can't stream!"

Fixed it for you

>> No.24152315

>>24152072
>Self-hating gook
That explains everything. I suppose this phrase is warranted;
You will never be Japanese.

>> No.24152316

>>24152226
Finally someone gets it

>> No.24152320

>>24147029
>Threadreader makes up shit since he has nothing on her.
LMAO

>> No.24152360

>>24152248
>streaming is all that matters
Please kill yourself, underaged faggot

>> No.24152361

>>24148664
>She reached out first.
Man it reeks of threadreader in here.

>> No.24152472

>>24152092
your initial claim was
>"JP vtubers are driven, ambitious and work hard. EN vtubers are lazy, complacent"
you were given examples showing the opposites of each, proving that neither of those statements are even true. you just have a bias, so of course you won't even acknowledge anything that breaks your worldview
also why must people like you always go after ayame

>> No.24152481

>>24152315
>You will never be Japanese.

Good, don't want to be. I know it's hard for your peanut size brain to understand.

It is not my fault that Singapore of all nations is more advanced than your western shithole.

>> No.24152652

>>24151036
it's the point where you become a nijinigger out of spite

>> No.24152706

>>24147229
Ah, i remember the first time gura collab with JP is in the Among Us cross branch collab including ID branch. Gura was so salty because she can't speak JP and Chumbuds start shitting on Iofi because "how dare you Low tier didn't translate our 1 mil sub Gura"
Then nobody in JP or ID want to collab with Gura in Fear of backlash from Chumbuds for a long time until Shion happened.

>> No.24152783

>>24151037
I mean, everyone wants to MATING PRESS the rrat

>> No.24152943

>>24149658
Lol, no. She isn't that costly to keep on and still wants to do Hololive activities when she's capable.

>> No.24153053

>>24152189
>jap
I’m not a jap, faggot. There are no japs /here/. Japs are retarded; they can’t speak english. Just because I know jap doesn’t mean I’m one of them, it just means I’m not an incapable mentally handicapped moron.
>>24152472
>listed all the shit JP has to deal with alongside streaming while EN sleeps in, clarified some talents can’t be consistent now because they are sick and conceded that one of the examples, Ayame, is unarguably lazy and can’t be justified.
>EN still works more somehow.
I mean, sure, anon. Whatever makes you sleep tighter I guess.

>> No.24153299

>>24153053
>listed all the shit JP has to deal with alongside streaming while EN sleeps in
this is such a biased comment. but i'm sure you don't understand how you could possibly be biased
>>EN still works more somehow
i'm not the one claiming they work more, other crazy anons are claiming that. all i'm saying is your worldview is inherently biased and not based in reality

>> No.24153359

>>24152206
This is beyond the scope of this trash thread but I think streamers are the shitiest form of entertainment there has ever existed. Gameplay vids? I'm down. There's usually some editing, or some amount of added value. But a retard playing video games for 4+ hours? Jesus what the serious fuck is wrong with that audience? I get that that taste is not universal but still, shit, that's beyond trash easy to digest entertainment. It's like scrolling social media. It's soulless. JP chubas don't feel like regular streamers. There's a very unique aspect to Japanese performativity that makes the content well, different. It's not only that there's a cute anime avatar. The performance and everything around it is special. EN lacks this. There're just streamers. Maybe good ones, I don't know the same I wouldd be able to tell if one shit or this other shit is a better meal, I never enjoyed eating shit. The only kinda watchable EN is kiara, because she acts like a JP. If you don't want to learn Japanese, or if you're filtered by the difficulty, then that's fine just go get better enterneinment. Lots of great youtubers. Tons of decent TV and anime. Books and comics are a thing. Fucking anything.

>> No.24153437

>>24152083
You just dont want taking account of recent EN-JP collab with lui and suisei-mori original MV, do you?
Fauna collabed with watame
Kronii collabed with subaru and polka
Actually its mumei and bae collabed with haachama
>suisei and mori MV collab
Is this what you call 'JP retaliation', anon?

>> No.24153462

>>24151036
This, it's how I know that so many of these "JP only" niggas only know basic Japanese, or can only pick out a few words here and there. Disappointment would surely abound if they were fluent in Japanese. People with realistic expectations for what they are getting into will not be disappointed, but the niggas that view Japanese people as some superior people will surely get more jaded the more fluent they become as they realise that Japanese Vtubers (and people) aren't much different from what they are supposedly trying to escape from.

>> No.24153483

>>24148160
Numberfags with people they don't have a bond with, Kiara has bonds with JP's and they offer to stream with her but she bitches about it all the fucking time. She doesn't want to stream with them. She wants Europeans and if she can't have them she'll settle for EN. She's very bitter that she couldn't be the JP/EN bridge.

>> No.24153528

Go back to your >>>/jp/hlg containment thread schizos

>> No.24153605

>>24152706
>Gura was so salty because she can't speak JP and Chumbuds start shitting on Iofi because "how dare you Low tier didn't translate our 1 mil sub Gura"
this isn't what happened lol
i guess at this point it's like ancient history passed down through the generations and people reinterpret and rewrite it however they please,
since no one does their fucking reps

>> No.24153665

>>24153359
You are so nip it fucking hurts to see.
>Kiara is only watchable because she acts like a JP
Incetuous nips go back to /jp/

>> No.24153780

>>24147029
Trust me ina is more entertaining than her

>> No.24153792

>>24147029
Bae has already done like 10x the JP collabs that Gura has done. Gura is an eternal EOP and it's holding her back.

>> No.24153797

>>24153359
>Japanese performativity that makes the content well, different
>different
because you can't understand 90%-99% of what is being said lol. that's why it is so different
that's literally all. if you understood every word you wouldn't be as mystified by them

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>>24152652
Terribly wrong, anon.
NijiEN is full of males how come someone could enjoy that?

>> No.24153841

>>24152083
if she wants to stop being treated like a retard she should stop acting like one

>> No.24153882

>>24153665
Actually I'm a beautiful spic, your oshi would fuck me in a heartbeat. Monolinguals are a disgrace.

>> No.24153886

>>24153437
any and all mvs are mandated by management so those don't really matter.
what fauna collab are you talking about? calling in on a totsu? they just invited themselves in, and that's not really a collab
again what kronii collab? that was a literal 2 minute video, how is that a collab
and you seem to not know the real story behind the mumei, baelz and haachama collab do you? do your reps
>two girls with the same record deal
act like that one wasn't forced either
as for lui, a single jp out of the 50 available only collabed with 2 of the 11 ENs, that's one hell of a ratio

>> No.24153917

>>24152360
I don't see why I should care about some nip slut who doesn't even stream

>> No.24153923

>>24147838
It's fine only Lui is trying to collab regularly now. JP doesn't need EOP viewers and EN doesn't need JOP viewers.

>> No.24154026

>>24153797
I understand kiara perfectly and I can tell that she performs like a jap and that makes her watchable. And yeah I'm far from fluent and probably would be way less interested in chubas if I were. Like I said originally, they're just convenient listening reps. But my point about the performance stands tho, even if I was greatly exaggerating everything I said. This should be obvious to anyone that has watch jp, even clips.

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>OP successfully baiting two Holo branches fans to fight eachother.
You guys should not take the bait too hard. It's clearly OP falseflagging as Holofans

>> No.24154106

>>24154026
you sound like a retard

>> No.24154149

>>24153882
I would argue except you're literally telling the truth about my oshi, so rip, I'll take the L

>> No.24154150

>>24154061
I mean shitting on people who only watch EN never gets old. Imagine watching fucking Ina lmao my fucking sides. Unless you're ESL and are doing reps, in that case I respect your grind.

>> No.24154156

>>24152706
You meant Moonafic shitting on Iofi in her comment and she throw tantrum on twitter and discord and chumbuds gets the blame?

>> No.24154162

>>24148862
>exports traps and tentacle porn and nothing else
>shocked when other countries can get their dicks up long enough to fap to it
>goes to cram school to one day afford a broom closet apartment with paper walls, forgoes having children because they can't stretch their arms out far enough to beat them

>> No.24154174

>>24153841
>acting

>> No.24154204

>>24154106
How the fuck do you want me to sound have you read the thread?

>> No.24154223

>>24154061
>because only non-holofans shit on holofans
one of the most retarded takes I've seen on this board, is this how numberfags cope?

>> No.24154227

>>24149668
Wow this is a shit rrat, Only, EN wanted to collab with Haachama. JP's were avoiding her until she became haato again.

>> No.24154236

>>24147838
This isn't true, Okayu still use Gura reference till this day

>> No.24154309

>>24151400
>worse thing is that I pay taxes so people like you can get by

NTA but this sounds like a fucking Simpsons line my dude, I think you need to chill. The world isn't a board on 4chan

>> No.24154324

>>24152185
>haachama has stated before that her favorite hololive song to listen to is actually reflect
proof?

>> No.24154347

>>24147029
Based pump and dump

>> No.24154380

>>24154227
????????????
the only EN collabs after the schizo arc was one with mori and one with baelz and mumei
other than that, all of it was before that

>> No.24154433

>>24153923
Lui doesn't count cause she's a deadbeat. It's only natural that she would want to do more things with EN girls

>> No.24154556

>>24153605
nta, but yeah that's kinda what happened. Gura was already in a bad mood, before the collab started and constantly getting killed early made things worse.

The fans expected iofi to translate like kiara, but that never happened. It was a shit show and I feel bad everyone that was there.

>> No.24154608

>>24154026
The only reason why you or someone else may feel that Kiara is like JP but in English is because she's not a native English speaker so she rarely uses (dirty) slang which could be perceived as vulgar twitch thot language by some. On top of that she's not exactly the best when it comes to internet culture (memes) which is another aspect JP avoids. However, the way she speaks is perceived to be rude or too direct by many EOPs and that's the absolute opposite of how Japanese communicate. Of course, there's this thing with Kiara wanting to uphold idol aspect in her career but honestly I don't really see her doing anything different from other EN members with an obvious exception being Mori.

>> No.24154619

>>24153359
I don't watch ENvtubers for the videogames and I am not limited to Hololive. I watch zatsudans, opera, piano streams, karaoke, mixing, TTRPGs, model painting, gunpla, art streams, lectures, talk shows, podcasts, tarot, gun assembly, book readings, etc etc etc.
These are a wide variety of content from the English language alone. Mind you, these are English speakers. They could be SEA, Canadian, American, europoor, Mexican, that rare JP with English fluency, Russian, etc and thus their lived experience, their upbringing and the possibly hobbies they can pick up are very diverse. Again, English is not my primary language and I understand that it's so versatile and has been utilized to communicate with other people with a different native tongue with you through that medium. Bro, I can read the Mahabharata and Thus Spoke Zarathustra and I can neither read Sanskrit nor German, but it's translated so I can access pieces of literature I normally wouldn't be able to understand.

Not that I'm saying there aren't any gems in the JP side, but my enjoyment of them is limited to the music they make.

>> No.24154769

>>24154380
Yeah, EN was blamed for the schizo arc. JP's thought haachama was being way too influenced by EOP 'tards, which reflected poorly on all of EN.

So, EN decided to ignore her after that.

>> No.24154802 [DELETED] 

>>24154324
>って思ってたけどやっぱり家に帰ったら色々やりたいことだらけだあああ
そしてGuraちゃんのREFLECTに
※ものすごくいい...私はそれに夢中になっています
this was in one of her daily membership diaries, believe me or not that's up to you
if you want to check for yourself go join her membership

>> No.24154860

>>24147076
Means that after they got to watch her get breeded by their male friends, they stopped hanging out with Mel from Holo-JP

>> No.24154872

>>24148898
>Mori
>Songs
Why are cuckbeats like this

>> No.24154904

>>24154324
>って思ってたけどやっぱり家に帰ったら色々>やりたいことだらけだあああ
>そしてGuraちゃんのREFLECTに
>※ものすごくいい...私はそれに夢中になっています
this was in one of her daily membership diaries, believe me or not that's up to you
if you want to check for yourself go join her membership
god damn haachama, I hate when she writes like that

>> No.24154944

>>24148403
>Maybe blocking EN0 wasn't such a good idea, huh. Fucking covernigger

>> No.24155089

>>24153299
Biased is being realistic. In that case sure, I agree with you.

>> No.24155128

>>24154860
This is the rrat on this situation that I believe the most. Bae is aussie, and as we ALL should know, aussie women are on this earth to be nothing but fuck dolls. They have literally nothing else going on.

>> No.24155165

>>24154608
? The Japanese swear a lot. They just don't make a big deal out of it. Swear words are just normal words. I guess German might be similar. Regardless swearing has nothing to do with it do. She has the jp chuba energy and delivery.

>> No.24155172

For some reason, I fear for the eventual EN3 and how they would be treated because of the mark their lazy senpais left behind. The enthusiasm and motivation would be sucked out of them during the first couple of months. The JP's would avoid them like the plague I'm sure of it.

>> No.24155246

>>24153359
You’re right but this is an EOP board so they will call you names. Most of them are either really ignorant or just plainly underage too, so they don’t know any better than trend following, which right now should be cheering for Nyanners bf. Please understand.

>> No.24155278

>>24154608
kiara swears all the time

>> No.24155349

>>24155278
That post is so cubfusongly contradictory. Watching en chubas rots your brain, evidently.

>> No.24155382

>>24154150
>ESL this, ESL that
Yeah most of HoloJP are ESL. Glad you're have a common thing with Your oshi.

>> No.24155391

>>24148898
>still thinks Suiesi only doin stream
most jp doin other work like tv and radio recording, aqua currently is doin recording for VN, suiesi now in one moth break but still doin radio show weekly with Azusa Toadokoro

>> No.24155412

>>24154608
>>24154026
>I can tell that she performs like a jap
what? that perception might just be because she knows japanese and is very familiar with japan, but other than that i don't quite know what you mean because she is very different from them in a lot of ways

>> No.24155449

>>24155349
>cubfusongly
what happened to you
i think YOUR brain is rotting...

>> No.24155537

>>24154223
It could be Kikebook SEA who shitting on this board anon...

>> No.24155556

>>24155089
>Biased is being realistic
i know you think you can just redefine words to mean whatever you want them to, but no that's not what it means. i do not agree with you

>> No.24155577

>>24154904
kek based chammers

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>>24147838
>meanwhile in the real world

>> No.24155719

>>24155623
man ENshitters are really okay with anything huh?
is that all it takes to appease you fags? a cardboard cutout from this girl to make the EN audience happy?

>> No.24155722

>>24155449
Both proofrwsding and typing carefully are for weak ass fuckers who are concerned about looking good for the other board autists. I don't give a shit Ive got nothing to prove

>> No.24155887

>>24155246
since the nips are the ones that started streaming they must be extra trashy

>> No.24156023

>>24154227

Jesus fucking christ. Haachama not having a lot of collabs is for multiple reasons, but most of them being her own fault.

1. She's weird, which isn't a bad thing but offputting for a lot of holomem. And when I say weird, she's genuinely strange, even for Japanese people. Repeatedly has been said to be as superhyper in real life as she is on stream by others like Hoshikawa.

2. Unreliable. Often cancels collabs because she literally does not understand time commitments. This doesn't even just happen with streaming, look up the Hoshikawa spocha clip. The whole matsuli drama was because of this as well.

3. Shy - obviously a lot of the holo's have this issue, but she doesn't go out of her way to arrange things, other than last minute call in announcements that get ignored by 95% of the holomem because they're not close with her.

She has scheduled streams with Ame, but they were "rescheduled" by haachama's hiatus. A lot of her potential relationships with Myth was also killed by En manager, tough to say how much of it was rrat but there was definitely at least some pushback due to her using the #en hashtags.

>> No.24156030

>>24155391
still don't see why a nobody who doesn't stream should matter. maybe she should go back to pretending she's good at tetris

>> No.24156135

>>24155719
>trying too hard
1/10 made me reply

>> No.24156159

>>24147029
What's with Bae and threadreaders?
They always make up the wildest shit about her because they never have anything to shit on her with

>> No.24156199

I can't believe so many people fell to the shcizo ramblings of that anon kek
haachama loves the EN girls, and they absolutely love her back
no matter how much or how hard you try to spin it, this is a simple objective and factual truth

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Make way for luxiemkiller

>> No.24156406

>>24156159
This entire thread is a clown chucklefest fiesta from the outrageous threadreader claims in the OP to the extremely schizo haachama rrat

>> No.24156423

>>24156023
Bro chammers is so fucking cute I hate that she's just not great for my reps so if I'm being responsible I hardly ever watch her. Pls chama keep being some shape of chama for a couple years till I catch up.

>> No.24156509

>>24156406
Pretty hilarious thread to be honest. I like vt a lot on days like this.

>> No.24156783

>>24156023
>because they're not close with her.
clipnigger, this is simply untrue
did you know that haachama and pekora used to have a thing back in the day and even called each other something else? did you know that haachama and subaru had a thing of their own too? did you know how nervous lamy was for her first collab outside of gen 5 after the aloe shit and how grateful she is that haachama was there for that first collab? did you know how much nene and her hang out together? did you know how happy she makes matsuri just being with her? do you know how happy the IDs are when she plays around with them? and this is just scraping the tip of the iceberg...you think haachama debuted 4 years ago and isn't close with the other members?

>> No.24156897

>>24156509
Same sentiments, I have a plate o' chips ready to see whatever else these clowns can cook up

>> No.24157151

>>24156783
pekora and her had an interaction in minecraft where pekora mistyped something and haachama responded in kind. They still call eachother these pet names when they interact once every 9 months

subaru and her did 2 collabs, one of them was an offcollab, and they're friendly with eachother when they do group collabs once every 9 months

she was lamy's first collab, and they've interacted maybe 3 times since.

The nene thing is legit, but not that surprising - nene is also very outgoing and same age bracket.

Matsuri and her are on friendly terms besides the drama just due to similar age bracket and gen 1 bonds.

ID doesn't give much of a fuck, Reine is a haaton and Ollie pities her.

Literally every single thing you mentioned is straight from clips, ironic you call me a clipnigger.

>> No.24157346

>>24157151
>Reine is a haaton
No she's an ichimi

>> No.24157397

vea tea should have a daily general for LARPing as jp stream watchers
the shit you faggots make up are pretty hilarious

>> No.24157399

kek this is a rrat brewing thread and a half jesas

>> No.24157473

>>24157346
Ichimi are just shy haatons.

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>>24147076
>EN only here

>> No.24157553

>>24157346
Marine and haachama are literally the same person. How new?

>> No.24157625

you've never watched marine and haato's actual zatsudan streams have you

>> No.24157635

>>24149668
you fucking stink anon
I hope this doesn't become a thing now

>> No.24157988

>>24147029
Sex model, zero personality

>> No.24158096

>>24148491
Retarded youtuber reference, why am i not surprise ENfag

>> No.24158152

>>24147076
Pure, unfiltered sex appeal.

>> No.24158181

>>24157988
Just say you don't watch her, you walk away with some respect and don't expose yourself as a threadreader that way
Hope this helped

>> No.24158322

>>24158181
That's the thing no one watches her. Council tanked bad, probably because myth was garbage.

>> No.24158347

>>24150659
Based

>> No.24158456

>>24151547
why do Indonesians even bother watching ID vtubers if they speak english 75% of the time?

>> No.24159201

>>24147387
Try Miko. Half the time the Japanese don't understand her either.

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>>24158456
they're not with the new girl, they choose the one who speak indog 90% of the time

>> No.24159543

Idk who is shiitting the catalog indogs or amuricans.

>> No.24159772

>>24147387
>caring for what a woman has to say
Anon, just enjoy their cute noises and laughs.

>> No.24160858

Let's be honest, HoloJP is shit now

I stopped caring about JP after Coco left and what happened to Rushia, it was clear they were fake all along and they had a numberfag competitive mind, members who had difficulties like Aki, Haachama, Mel and Matsuri had no friends trying to help them.
EN and ID are better now and their friendship is more real on stream

>> No.24161029

>>24160858
Ogey

>> No.24161200

>>24160858
>EN and ID are better now and their friendship is more real on stream
Kek

>> No.24161278

>>24154236
Okayu is a real one fo sho

>> No.24161407

>>24153483
Considering her past life I can see Kiara having a love/hate relationship with Japan and wanting to do things with fellow europeans instead

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>>24156023
I think I'm Haachama...

>> No.24161607

>>24148898
Mori also sucks at singing and doesn't do concerts besides birthday. She literally only does songs, and her concert doesn't have choreography.
Basically the only thing Mori does is sometimes good music, try to improve her awful singing, sometimes, and that's it.
Suisei puts WAY more effort into pretty much everything, on top of doing more.

>> No.24161657

Honestly I'm just mad that instead of becoming a cross-branch collab powerhouse, Bae went all in on being the planet's biggest Mori fangirl.

>> No.24162012

Subhuman EOPs talking out their ass when all they know about the main branch is from clips.
Sidebranches are inferior.
Sidebranches do not matter.
Sidebranches are for plebs like you.

>> No.24162121

>>24162012
Return to your split antichama

>> No.24162157

>>24162121
Return to facebook subhuman.

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>>24147076
>EN only here

>> No.24162378

>>24156783
>scraping the tip of the iceberg
It's hilarious how ESL trash always completely mangle idioms like this.

>> No.24162770

>>24162378
>tip of the iceberg
>scratching the surface
>scraping the bottom of the barrel
Thank me later seaniggers.

>> No.24162962

>Fubuki and Bae never collabed

>> No.24163019

>>24156023
Did you think you're trying to contradict me? I agree with everything you said and I've had her membership for nearly two years, already.

JP wants her to return to her pre-haachama self and EOPs and the EN who collabed with her are seen as enabling her schizoness.

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the fuck is this thread

>> No.24163427

>>24156783
Not like she used to, she's the blacksheep of HoloJP and is a serious collab debuff for any JP who cares about numbers.

>> No.24164270

>>24163113
JP LARP thread
EN bad because... uhh, fuck you JP good

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fuck you OP. neck your self for using bae as bait for this shitty thread. my precious bae is not for your shizo ramblings to shit on others holomem.

>> No.24165926

>>24147838
I mean the only one that tries on EN is Kiara

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>>24164270
ENs arent shit because theyre ENs

ENs are shit because theyre fucking peckerwoods

vtubing has a cracker problem and its about time they left things up to the professionals (east asians!) take a look at any random twitch 2view and look at what western CUM SKIN society has produced its a fucking disgrace to humanity as a whole

>> No.24166083

>>24165926
still better than none of the jp chuubas trying

>> No.24166204

>>24147838
Aki loves Ina but Ina ditched her after their first collab...

>> No.24166271

>JP Holos think Baelz will be the next Gura
JP Holos streamed for years (especially if you count their past lives), have enormous amount of experience in the industry.

YOU REALLY THINK HoloJP couldn't tell if a vtuber is going to be a star? NO way in hell HoloJP think Bae is a star,

>> No.24166596

>>24147029
HoloJP are all disgusting numberfag leeches who only care about numbers, anyone who watched JP could tell you that. Reminder that they only got big in the first place by leeching off of NijiJP and spamming coomerbait. They're as bad as NijiEN in my book. Meanwhile HoloEN is very comfy and chill, they don't care about numbers or obsess over playing popoular games. It's like watching a friend stream vs watching someone stream for work. Obviously the former is superior.

>> No.24167783

>>24153359
it's just the same idol/tarento garbage japan has been churning out for decades. if you like that, cool, but pretending it's somehow better than what everyone else does is ridiculous

>> No.24168319

>>24166596
Thoughts on HoloID?

>> No.24168420

>>24147029
>JP Holos think Baelz will be the next Gura
>All of them line up for collabs
Rumao they did impress with her JP but that's all. If anything Bae was the one clinging on JPs in early days and got amount of followers from JOP. There was FBK reached out to her then Mio and Mel later Pekora did collab but that's all. No one in HoloJPs gives a shit about Bae in the first place.

>> No.24168625

>>24155623
You know Irys is actually part JP right?

>> No.24169151

I find Hakos to be the most interesting one out of the 5. She puts in a lot of effort into actually being interesting and having good content, the others just go with the flow more and do what they enjoy.

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>>24148898

>> No.24169417

>>24150419
It is to the point one of the choice is to do surgery
But she said the core problem is because her way of using her voice is wrong, so I assume surgery won't do her well in the long run if she keep using the wrong way to use her voice

>> No.24169885

>>24163019
I thought I was the only EOP who wanted to see Haato return. If she'd just calm the fuck down then I'd even give Hololive EN a second chance.

>> No.24170403

another one who doesn't watch haato

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>>24147076

>> No.24170645

>>24169200
IS SHE LOOKING IN A MIRROR?????

>> No.24171348

>>24149490
>>24169417
She should just do a Suisei and stop using her fake voice

>> No.24172642

>>24171348
Probably too late for it to save her vocal chords.

>> No.24172822

>>24151547
>And I'd imagine watching vtubers in a language you're actually fluent to understand it's nuances is more enjoyable than watching a vtuber you don't understand or only understand on an elementary level.
I tend to avoid watching something I don't understand, but there are exceptions and vtubers happened to be one of the exceptions. Some of the HoloJP are entertaining to me even if I only understand them on an elementary level, that's why I watch them.

>Which is why I'm rather curious why do Indonesians even bother watching EN and JP vtubers.
The Indos who bother to consume English media or entertainment usually understand 50% or 60% of the contents at the very least. A lot of the Indos who have decent English tend to hide the fact they are Indos because they are aware of Indos reputations in the internet.
A lot of us that stayed in the vtuber hole are weebs or quite fond to JP cultures anywau, it's not like we're losing anything from trying to learn Japanese. If anything, we can get more access to more JP stuff.

>> No.24174213

>>24169885
nah, not the only one. i never watched her pre schizo but god i wish i did

>> No.24174566

>>24149099
>Its fine when Shion does it because she blogs on her 100$ fanbox
God vt is so fucking dumb, Ayame and Shion are the same (depressed zoomers)

>> No.24175673

EN ruined vtubing

>> No.24175762

t. post-council newfag

>> No.24176589

>>24174566
a girl got jumped because someone thought they were shion, ayame is just lazy

>> No.24176665

>>24149442
>misses unity minecraft streams
That's intentional. Rat is part of mori's group with IRyS and not part of the gura/council funtime that's actually entertaining compared with the retarded alcoholic reaper and depressed going nowhere singer.

>> No.24177073

>>24147076
Mel isnt very popular

>> No.24177158

>>24150419
She basically has to do the surgery but the potential sideffects would give anyone pause. Also if the surgeon is a retard and fucks up even slightly she'll never be able to sing again. Look at Julie Andrews, whose singing voice was ruined by jewyork surgeons and the woman that delighted audiences worldwide in Mary Poppins and The Sound of Music can never ever sing again. Vocal cord surgery isn't a walk in the park. It's right that Marine attempt everything else rather than resort to surgery and that includes literally saving her voice for the occasions that need it most.

>> No.24177256
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24177256

>>24177073
Fuckin deserves to be though.
VAMP UP

>> No.24177478

>>24161458
Same bro. Wanna make plans together and then never show up?

>> No.24177496

>>24177158
I have a bad feeling that Marine might not last past this year.

>> No.24177570

>>24147029
just goes to show they are all greedy career seeking whores who just want a free piggyback to stardom and once they saw that is not happening, have moved on

>> No.24177575

>the JP girls only like Gura for her subscriber numbers.
Absolutely SOULLESS. Who would want to watch a bunch of number-hungry whores. You can just feel the desperation.

>> No.24177607

>>24177496
shit your jinx sounds scary
coz Marine's throat issue has went on for long time

>> No.24177869

>>24177607
I'm not trying to jinx her, and I do know that her throat problem has been going on for a while. I just hope that she recovers, she at one moment used to be my favorite HoloJP.

>> No.24177990

what's wrong with mel she cute

>> No.24178066

>>24177869
so who's your favorite holo now?

>> No.24180040

>>24176589
But it's not a suffering competition. No hologirls deserve the shit thrown at Gen 2 none of them have ever done anything wrong, all of you need meds.

>> No.24180357

>>24180040
>all of you need meds
take meds
vt
they can never coexist

>> No.24182994

>>24176589
Where you here that from

>> No.24183108

>>24162012
Oh hey antichama, haven't seen you in a while

>> No.24184021

>>24177073
Holy shit the first anon to actually answer my question with what seems to be a correct answer. You deserve a medal.

>> No.24184209

>>24182994
it was talked about a while ago, I think she was involved in a lawsuit because of it. it's one the reasons she took a break last year I think

>> No.24185370

>>24149099
Awww poor Shion, she plays video games for a living and gets free money from desperate losers she never has to meet. Poor, poor Shion!

>> No.24186115

Several big JPs dropped by Bae's bday totsu and made collab promises. Bae is still busy with school, but she will deliver on those promises soon. She may even off collab with some JPs once she can travel to Japan. Stop reading threads and watch streams.
>>24161657
This is what I hope for Bae. Bae also strives to be this. She needs more experience and even more confidence to actively reach out though. Give her time.

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>>24147029
Rrat killed her own momentum the first day, when she declared herself a Roberu bitch, and she cant blame anybody else for this

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24187454

>>24147076
>EN only here

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24187556

>>24148403
>JP vtubers are driven, ambitious and work hard
hai hai

>> No.24188146

>>24185370
Doesnt even have to play games

Just record what her psychiatrist says to her and charge 10000 yen for it

>> No.24190171

>>24148651
>Korean peasant seething over people appreciating superior Japanese culture

you can make this shit up (just like you can't rape a prostitute)

>> No.24190322

>>24184021
Mel was the most popular girl early on in hololive, then she had issues with a former manager and took some time off from streaming, never recovered fully

>> No.24190443

>>24147838
Blame EN, they never reach out
The only reason the shion/gura arch happened was because shion asked for a collab

>> No.24190502

>>24190322
Honestly sounding less like that manager tried to rape her and more like she tried to seduce the manager into raping her. Believing that other anon more and more that she's just a slut that keeps asking for it.

>> No.24190576

>>24151037
Why is Mel so rapeable?

>> No.24190650

>>24190502
I think her manager was her boyfriend, then hololive changed their stance on men working at the company when they broke up
Rape was always a rrat

>> No.24190662

>>24190576
She is pretty but looks sounds and act retarded. Prime rape bait.

>> No.24191601

>>24148391
What a fucking retard. That's the dumbest reason I have heard for watching Vtubers.
>Authentic
>Has to hide talking about ex-boyfrinfs, current boyfriend, crushes, etc.
>Honest
>Has to refrain from saying anything even vaguely political
>Fake voices, etc.

>> No.24191875

>>24149490
The same is true for Kiara, Ina and Irys, but they still manage to stream

>> No.24192606

>>24153462
I imagine they're the same faggots that will be genuinely shocked when they talk to your average Jap and realize are just as mundane and dull as Westerners, likely more so.

>> No.24192655

>>24148391
You are a retard that will never find happiness with a woman.

>> No.24192785

>>24190662
>looks sounds and act retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNsOw6LtVvA
Even Matsuri confirms that she's pretty slow and dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fckAFfo-CsQ

>> No.24193160

>>24191601
I didn't say authentic, I said the MOST authentic. It's a sad state of affairs.

>> No.24193211

>>24192655
Modern women are literally incapable of happiness

>> No.24193409

>>24147838
>RBC and ame still play fps offstream ofthen
>Calli hangouts with lui irl a lot
>Irys too
>Ina is still ofthen in contact with gen 5
Idk about council, but Myth is still as close with JPmem. But welp, we all know how lazy and unmotivated councils are so i could see their JPsenpais doesnt have any respect for them

>> No.24193463

>>24165926
>>24166083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVsacQZTmiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M85xU-tbQ6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbB3KsFRv4U

>> No.24193468

>>24191601
You should stop watching vshojo or those ENindies anon...

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24193477

>>24151036
Sounds pretty nice but i'm still too lazy to start mining and analyzing train analogies

>> No.24193682

>>24193160
How the fuck are they more authentic? explain that.

>> No.24193709

>>24147029
>Bae freak out before her debut because of the massive EN hype. Literraly about to cancel the whole thing and escape before she even starts.
>FBK reaches out to her and tacks her onto a silly skit before she ever appears to lower the pressure.
>Retards misses the entire point.

>> No.24193811

>>24191601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ocsaRq3ns

>> No.24194045

>>24193682
Because the anonymity lets them express themselves without their usual female bullshit making listening/interacting with them completely insufferable. Have you ever actually interacted with a woman IRL? She's plastered layers of pretext and pretense over her like makeup, it's disgusting.

>> No.24194104

>>24192785
I guess girls named Mel are just naturally dumb as rocks.
>Nekomata Mel
>Projekt Melody
>Yozora Mel
And all Mels seem to do blatantly lewd sexual shit for money.

>> No.24194196

>>24194045
I have, and my interactions with women have been generally pleasant. They didn't come across as inauthentic to me.

>> No.24194885

>>24192785
Lmao Matsuri is such an unapologetic asshole

>> No.24195073

>>24194045
nta but I have had long term relationships with very authentic woman. More than one, actually.

>> No.24195096

>>24194196
By the sounds of things, you're an inauthentic person yourself. Go find yourself.

>> No.24195144

>>24195073
>had
>multiple "had"s
Doesn't sound very authentic to me.

>> No.24195164

>>24187366
Council overall had pretty dark first days, but they're finally starting to come into their own recently. Only took them like 8 months.

>> No.24195181

>>24195144
people break up or drift away. you dont have any relationships huh? i'm sorry.

>> No.24195374

>>24195181
I've had several as well. Women cannot handle honesty as a principle.

>> No.24195500

>>24195374
it might be related to the fact that your honest self is an angry and kind of dumb asshole. People tend to dislike pieces of shit. I'm a decent enough guy so I don't have this type of issue.

>> No.24195650

>>24195500
>I'm a nice guy. Yes I've HAD several relationships, but I'm a nice guy. It will all work out in the end. Yes my relationships continue to end, why do you ask?
I don't tolerate dishonesty. That's literally my only standard (other than obvious like no cheating no physical abuse shit).
Turns out that not tolerating dishonesty filters like 95% of the population.

>> No.24195794

>This bait thread is STILL going

Holy fuck, you retards need to get out of the house

>> No.24195829

>>24195650
Lmao you're terribly confused about human interaction. Literally the kind of dumb asshole that ends up in a horribly unhappy marriage for 25 years. People grow, change, and sometimes become incompatible for one reason of other. Has nothing to do with honesty, and honesty (or lack of thereof) has very little to do with gender. Society is very performative so most people are pretty fake. Read some books, being less vocally uneducated can literally help you attract the type of people you think you want around you.

>> No.24195968

ITT: JPniggers forgetting who made them

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>>24195968
>>24195968
never forget.

>> No.24196823

>>24195829
Never said honesty has to do with gender, I'm merely commenting on what I see in women. I'm straight so I never look into men as romantic partners, but I'm sure we have our own share of this nonsense that women have to deal with as well.
>read le books to get better at human interaction
I can tell how worthless you are by this one statement alone. You get better at human interaction by interacting with people, not by reading books on how to interact with people. This world is being ruined by you people who shove their heads this far up their own asses that you don't realize that a lot of what we need is something we already have in us.

>> No.24196959

>>24196823
>read le books to get better at human interaction
No, illiterate anon, that's not what I meant. I meant that more educated people tend to be smarter and less fake performative. You don't get better at human interaction by reading, but being more knowledgeable will help you appear interesting to the type of people that don't feel the need to plaster their face with make up or whatever you think dishonesty entails.

>> No.24197105

>>24152074
Just say you got assblasted by getting btfo'd

>> No.24197268

>>24149473
You weren't there and you didn't watch her

>> No.24197296

>>24147076
>Faggot
Why asking in the first place when nigga EN only

>> No.24198697

>>24196959
Holy shit, you're so disingenuous that you can't even consider that a woman has been dishonest with you other than fucking MAKEUP.
You need to back off the dating scene for a little while and go experience nature or something. Lies are extremely common and the fact you can't even fathom an example shows how little you've been paying attention.

>> No.24199273

>>24147838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wf93KxDROs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gLrhMR3_zM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjmArU8pTPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrpubiRwB-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw62vBjHIEI

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