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Why did they flop?

>> No.24084901

>>24084747
Women want Dracula not Dante

>> No.24085012

>>24084747
Because they're Fungus Neckbeard and 4 literal whos. Each wave will be less successful due to the novelty of them being the first male ENtubers wearing off and the spreading out of their potential audience due to diluting the market with more and more livers. Haven't we had this thread enough times already?

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>> No.24085236

At least the purple one got to fuck Pomu.

>> No.24085353

>>24084747
by any reasonable metric they didn't.

>> No.24085461

>>24084747
Because they look like a fucking boy band/otome game cast and theyre background characters compared to Luxiem

>> No.24085551

>>24084747
Fungus earned more than Pekora and Aqua last month when by all reasonable metrics he should be nowhere fucking near them.

>> No.24085780

>>24084747
I wouldn't outright say they've flopped, but they've been handicapped in different ways

>Alban
Emotionally unstable and hides it under false energy and enthusiasm, which will likely see him lash out and explode in a near future yab. Too much of a push over for his gen-mates above him, which devalues him to a sidekick status. Man up
>Yugo
Many in /NijiEN/ will claim they are happy that she has found her niche, but it does not change the fact that a female Japanese rep with next to no English should be in this branch. Her "mama" is a mental wreck too and will cause her own external problems. Japanese Anti's will be her downfall
>Fulgur
Intentionally handicapped his debut, is handicapped in real life. He's got attention from the likes of Ironmouse and OTV now, but he seemingly is the most parasocial with his own chat... Despite warning them over the dangers of being parasocial. I fear for his mental state
>Sonny
Amazing debut and done nothing with that energy since. Cashed out on being a softboi with next to no redeeming qualities. People excusive his shy nature and limited talking points to being "character traits" when in reality it's a case of him being bad at his job
>Uki
Already taken a week+ break due to "burn out" and is overtly gay. If you thought Sonny was silent in streams, Uki is next level. His mods and general handling of his content is borderline self-sabotaged. His comments about management indicate someone with very little care towards his future. Easily the worst nepotism hire

>> No.24086928

Did they? Don't they have 3-5K viewers most of the time?

>> No.24087025

>>24086928
Kiara tier views.

>> No.24087170

>>24085780
>>Yugo
>Many in /NijiEN/ will claim they are happy that she has found her niche
What's her niche exactly?

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>>24086928
even holoID got those numbers, anon and they are the worst performing branch of hololive.

>> No.24087419

>>24087240
>Worst performing branch
I mean, they technically still are but ever since HoloFes and ID3's debut, they have unironically inclined. Kobo is legit ID Gura at this point.

>> No.24087496

>>24087419
>Kobo is legit ID Gura at this point.
You just had to put the Gura Killer curse on her didn't you.

>> No.24087514

>>24087170
>What's her niche exactly?
Music production, mostly meme audio mixes. Here is an example of her taking voice lines from Alban streams for a track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JavtYoyS3SA

>> No.24087594

>>24087514
I mean that's her character's trait right? I thought it's something else.

>> No.24087642

>>24084747
Yugo lost a shitload of momentum due to the little yab.
Sonny is a literal who.
Fulgar is literally the focus of the discord drama.
Alban tries too hard to be funny that it just comes across as unnatural.
Uki feels like he doesnt wanna be there.

>> No.24087655

>>24087594
You'd think so right? But the first month and a half, they chased YouTube trends from like 5 years ago. They legit just looked at what everyone else played and attempted to copy.

>> No.24087689

>>24084747
fujo market is a niche and afaik they don't even pander to them as much as vox.

>> No.24088057

>>24084747
what do you mean, they are earning more than all the top jps or something

>> No.24088188

>>24084747
They're doing pretty well actually

>> No.24088201

>>24088057
ALL OUT WAR LMAO

>> No.24088225

>>24084747
They all look gay

>> No.24088268

They are doing better than Sana

>> No.24088307

>>24087025
You think Kiara is a flop? Why do holofags hate Kiara so much?

>>24087240
The picture you posted shows Kobo doing better than Gura. Is Hololive EN a flop, too?

>> No.24088312

They didn't hire me.

>> No.24088698

>>24088312
a nijireject in the flesh? you can try in homostarsEN, I am hearing that they love nijirejects there

>> No.24088803

Is fulgur fat

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>>24088268
Lolno

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>>24088307
>The picture you posted shows Kobo doing better than Gura.
achtually...

>> No.24089623

>>24085189
Yuga…. what could have been….

Captcha: W2WWHY

>> No.24089678

>>24087025
Shit son, the chicken is fucking loaded. I would gladly stream for a living for Kiara tier views.

>> No.24090511

>>24089386
just let the ID numberbros have something...

>> No.24090656

>>24085189
> we could've have gotten sexy dyke.
> we got lame trans male instead.

Hope Holo learns from this and debuts an unironical clam-chasing dyke

>> No.24091467

>>24084747
Accelerated too hard

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>>24085780
I love how every time these threads come up there's always a huge authoritative essay written by someone who hasn't watched them since week 1 and just occasionally checks the general for drama.

>> No.24096389

>>24084747
Yugo and Fulgur sandbagged the wave hard. Uki has limmited appeal and Sonny & Alban simply didn't live up to the hype.

>> No.24096681

>>24084747
4/5 look like literally the same dude in a different wig and again 4/5 look like they went shopping together at the same store on the same day and matched their outfits. So if that look/style isn't a particularly good one, copypasting it is only gonna make it worse. It'd be as if Holo Council was 4/5 variants of Sana's design.

How this happened after the Luxiems generally are pretty distinctive in not just faces but outfits/themes I do not know but it's fucking weird. I'd say it's lazy and rushed to laughable degrees but allegedly these were in the works at the same time as Luxiem. Honestly though it's such a lower degree of design I find that fucking hard to believe. Suuuure, these weren't rushed out the door to piggyback on Luxiem's surprise success, just like the air show at the May 9 parade in Russia really-was canceled because of bad weather in a clear blue sky.

>> No.24097252

>>24087642
this desu. (Most of) Noctyx has zero chemistry with one another. Luxiem actually did numbers because the males have actual fucking chemistry with one another.

>> No.24097367

>>24097252
Do you actually watch them? Or is this a shitpost. Im confused

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>>24097367
what do you think

>> No.24097525

>>24084747
3 of them are boring as fuck, one's annoying, and the only one that's bearable shot himself in the foot on debut by outright refusing to pander

>> No.24097716

>>24084747
the council of nijien

>> No.24097735

>>24097525
if you're not gay, why would you watch that shit

>> No.24097826

>>24084747
>cyberpop

fujos want their bishies dapper

>> No.24097847

>>24097735
I wouldn't, and don't
I don't watch Vox despite thinking he's generally pretty entertaining because of his forced fag shit

>> No.24097931

>>24097716
Just the council of nijiEN (male).

Ethyria has 3/4 members being duds sometimes failing to break 1k viewers, with Nina only making a name for herself being a shameless obligate parasite sucking off Luxiem.

>> No.24098601

They're just too boring. Fulgur is the only salvageable one in the group because he's actually social, can hold a conversation, and gets along with everyone. Sonny's only claim to fame is his voice acting which is amazing but the man has the personality of a plank of wood. Uki is literally a degenerate faggot who may as well not even exist in collabs. I'm not sure how Yugo even got fucking hired in the first place. Barely able to speak English and didn't know anything about streaming. Bitch had to be a nepotism hire. Not sure how they thought a male voiced by a female would go over well with western audiences. Honestly would prefer her as a woman. As for Alban, he's painfully average to a fault and a doormat. He's also devoid of masculinity. Never seen someone have such a problem with acting like a man.

>> No.24098943

>>24085189
SEXXXXXXX

>> No.24100842

>>24097931
since Luxiem success
>Millie inclined alot but still no 1k+ loyal fans
>Reimu inclined a bit and still bottom feeder
>Nina declined outside female friendly content(she only hits 2k+ in minecraft now)
>Enna inclined like a demon, it seems the bad bitch femcel behavior is relatable to luxiemfans

>> No.24103659

>>24097413
So its a shit post then

>> No.24104085

>>24088201
Thank me shu

>> No.24104191

>>24100842
But hasnt Enna always been inclinibg steadily? She's cultivating her fanbase of femcels really well.

>> No.24104203

>>24085780
Uki's mod drama corrected all the boys chats and there's no more of it. You're really behind on your drama, sister.

>> No.24104470

>>24085780
Sonny is such a damn shame, he could have been a better Luca (not that Luca is bad or anything, he has his strengths in collabs especially) or a more enthusiastic member and carried his gen, from just that debut.

>> No.24105212

>>24104470
They are talking about the real Sonny, and not the Sonny in your head anon

>> No.24105502

They didn't pander hard to fujos like what Vox is doing and they have personalities of a cardboard.

>> No.24105740

>>24087025
you mean watson-tier

>> No.24108408

>>24098601
>Alban
Man, when even Mysta is more masculine than you you know you're in trouble

>> No.24108605

>>24089386
so you think everybody in holoEN other than Gura is a failure?
I can keep going if you want

>> No.24109071

>>24108605
The Council Collab is at 20k right now.

>> No.24109452

>>24108408
Never watched alban, but i watch Mysta a lot. How is Alban very feminime compared to a fucking Mysta?

>> No.24109647

oh my god yes sonny, instantly hit the subscribed button watching his debut but then i never actually watch his streams cus idk what he plays!! and hes so quiet

fulgur on the other hand i hate his debut sm and always thought hes cringe ( still kinda is) but hes so sweet and fun

>> No.24110295

>>24084901
lol Fulgur isn't Dante. Vox fits his role, none of the others fit theirs. It's not hard to see why everyone in Luxiem took off.

>> No.24112236

>>24104191
>only femcels
I wanna hatefuck her so damn fucking bad that I even started watching her, maybe other people have the same kind of weird reasons to watch her

>> No.24112405

>>24109452
He plays up the shota-catboy erp with sonny a lot.

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>>24084747
Neither Council nor Noctyx are flops. They're both doing fine.

>> No.24113738

>>24085189
Riku redebut Yugo as tomboy/reverse trap onegai

>> No.24113962

>>24113517
Based unity Miko

>> No.24115624

>>24084747
Yeah Noctyx didnt do as well as tgey expected lol

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>>24084747
Why is OP obsessed with a bunch of male vtubers?

>> No.24116086

>>24112236
same lmao

>> No.24117459

>>24084747
Everyone other than the red guy looks like shit.

>> No.24118695

>>24085780
Wait, one of the people in the OP is a girl?

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>>24084747
No vox

>> No.24121965

>>24112236
I just want to seggs her, no hate involved

>> No.24122063

>>24118695
yeah the one to the left of Dante

>> No.24122141

>>24084747
You know, I don't think I've seen anyone post about glasses, yellow or purple. Like, not even to shit on them.

>> No.24122234

>>24104191
Is this true? I want an aloupeep gf now.

>> No.24122678

Wait for Holostars EN, we will see what flops looks like. Probably unable to even top IDs let alone council.

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>>24084747
Because they're shit.

>> No.24123529

>>24104203
His mods where deleting comments about other streamers in his Minecraft stream last night anon
>>24096071
I legit linked a recent stream of Yugo's

>> No.24123566

>>24084747
They still stream more than your hologirls.

>> No.24126961

>>24084747
Shit tier visuals, typical of Niji. And the only reason the other males succeeded was cause of Vox making all the chinkoid coochies wet with his voice

>> No.24131957

>>24084747
fulgur will rise from the pile of trash around him. Cept for maybe the purple guy, he aint so trash as the others. Alban so loud and inferior.

>> No.24132175

>>24085780
>>Fulgur
I'd say the discord leak crippled him the worst, as well. He wanted to play the villain character to get himself that "small comfy chat", but the discord leak made his assholery seem all too real, so he had to dial it back hard.

>> No.24132258

>>24084747
I like fungus covid, he good. Sonny should become a prerecorded videos vtuber, like in the old times. The rest are just mediocre and ill suited for the job

>> No.24132411

>Yugo
Not a man and ruins the male dynamic in male only collabs. TONS of scuff and has very broken English.
>Uki
Fairly silent, you often forget ge exists in his own solo streams none the less collabs.
>Sonny
Buck broken by Japanese office ladies into being a moaning soft boy.
>Alban
He's okay solo due to a mediocre chat to bounce off of, but much better in collabs.
>Fulgur
Great in collabs.

Fulgur and Alban are great, I don't care about the rest of them.

>> No.24132634

>>24122141
you just know women will jump at the first chance to make le evil incel seethe, they will watch them and make them incline just to fuck with you

>> No.24132717

The two on the right look like the same guy in different colors.

>> No.24132965

>>24087419
>The Gura
No she is not a flop with miilions of dead subs, she is the Pekora of ID

>> No.24133716

>>24132965
based

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