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>> No.24039766
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.24039877
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* YESTERDAYS FINAL TALLY *

>28,244: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,593: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,448: Patra (774 Inc.)
>16,480: Haneru (774 Inc.)
>16,235: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,181: Gura (Hololive)
>15,934: Kronii (Hololive)
>14,760: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,836: Watame (Hololive)
>13,405: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,271: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,031: Mio (Hololive)
>12,626: Ponpoko (Indie)
>12,401: Haachama (Hololive)
>12,329: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,935: Hinano (VSPO)
>11,737: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,329: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,026: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

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>>24039701
roomba clip

>> No.24039929

>>24039701
Kusoge from yesterday, where she stole the Roomba to put it back in her room, only for it to then blow up as soon as she dropped it.

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>>24039877
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX

>PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko, Mio
1x: Fuwa, Kaida, Kanata, Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Pekora

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
91x: Hololive
30x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
16x: Pekora
15x: Aqua
11x: Kuzuha
7x: Miko, Subaru
6x: Hal
4x: Kanata, Suisei
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Marine, Mio, Okayu, Toya
2x: Ange, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chloe, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>> No.24039963

>>24039701
She had a really funny clip from her burger stream that sat at the top of lsf for like the entire day. It got her an extra 40k views on the vod from it

>> No.24040014

>>24039919
I'm surprised Luxiem or Vox hasn't gotten big in LSF.

>> No.24040017

>>24039963
You can farm VOD views from Reddit clip?

>> No.24040036

>>24039963
>40k views on the vod from it
jesas

>> No.24040044

Ame you fool....

>> No.24040048

>>24039499
For all the constant complaining that holo EN doesn't stream enough, they're actually fairly comparable to holo JP on a per-streamer level. While there's no one quite on the extremes like Koyori or Ayame, both JP and EN have a whole spectrum of streaming frequencies, along with breaks, vacations, etc.
Once holo EN gen 3 debuts, that should hopefully drop some of the pressure to stream stream stream for those that actually have lots of RL responsibilities.

>> No.24040050

>>24040017
Yeah. Clips get added to vod totals

>> No.24040098
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>>24040017
lsf links to youtube with the clip feature

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Waiting for dogeza

>> No.24040126

>>24039732
>>24039766
if you make the next one please move hololyzer to the general section since they have niji and some indies on there now

>> No.24040129

>>24040017
Its clipped with the actual Youtube Clip function, so it brings you to the actual VOD

>> No.24040133

Gura 21k now

>> No.24040180

>>24040126
will do

>> No.24040198

>>24040014
that proves that NA doesn't watch them lmao

>> No.24040200

>>24040048
Yeah, they really need that EN3 to allow the girls to collab like they want without it leaving the rest of the day as a barren wasteland.

>> No.24040205

>>24040017
Well, not specifically from reddit. Youtube has a clip function. If you use this OFFICIAL function and link it somewhere it goes viral, then yes you can get lots of views. Funny that LSF fails uses it the most but for example r/hololive never does and thus never really boosts their VODs.

>> No.24040217

>>24040014
China doesn't into reddit that much.

>> No.24040218

>>24040014
yeah, with their HUGE american fanbase they should appear there every day, fucking crazy man

>> No.24040265

gura is holo council now.. myth bros...

>> No.24040269

>>24040014
Gura already gets "cringe her fanbase is full of pedos" comments, Imagine what Luxiem would get with the whole fujo content

>> No.24040286

>>24040014
No you're not.
Also...Luxiem or Vox? Did they transfer Vox to Noctyx to boost their numbers? Is he Lazulight now?

>> No.24040305

>>24040205
Yeah it’s crazy to me. r/hololive would benefit a fuck ton by using the clip feature. The subreddit is just dead otherwise and is full of fanart and screencaps OF clips

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>>24040014
>twitch banned in china
>reddit banned in china

>> No.24040336

>>24039963
Is this like those embedded twitch streams?

>> No.24040347

>>24040217
Tencent is one of the biggest shareholder of Reddit right?

>> No.24040377

>>24040269
where? I went there and couldn't find any

>> No.24040393

>>24040305
Well I'll give them this small defense: they have ot link screenshot of clips for JPs, most of them use translation clips of those.
But when they link screenshots of clips of EN...yeah.

>> No.24040431

>>24040323
wtf i love china now

>> No.24040436

>>24040269
I wonder if they realize her fanbase is actually young.

>> No.24040471

>>24040336
Not exactly the same but the concept is similar. So on twitch when you clip part of a vod, it creates its own separate entity which obtains its own views. But on youtube, your clip is DIRECTLY on the vod itself, so that’s why it counts as a view on the vod. Because people are not watching a clip itself but rather a sectioned part of the actual stream vod itself

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On an unrelated note I was bored and did this and will probably track this for another 2 or so weeks out of boredom. I'm also tracking some of the more "popular/new" Fauna ASMRs for shits and giggles to see the fluctuations of viewers. Like her 800k+ one has been getting roughly 2.2k+~ views daily for almost 3 days straight.

>> No.24040543

Are we sure that clips actually get added to the VOD? Cause the Buta stream was 4 hours with a 14k average CCV, which for Gura means an easy 300k in the first day. It should be quite a bit higher with a viral clip boost.

>> No.24040599

I'm honestly surprised with insane levels of viewer retention Sana has

>> No.24040635

>>24040471
So its an actual smart youtube feature that's a glorified "hey bro watch this VOD from xx:xx to xx:xx"? Nice.

>> No.24040660

Gura paassed Mr. Chin to make it to the current top of the day, neat.

>> No.24040700

>>24040506
Ah, I remember you from last time. Nice work.

>> No.24040829

>>24040506
So how's Fauna ASMR compared to Luxiem ASMR?

>> No.24040857

>>24040660
Yeah but the day has just begun. Days in which Gura gets decent numbers everyone else gets amazing numbers. Aqua Sushi eating...

>> No.24040860

Gura minecraft is kino af right now. Kronii and mumers are MVP.

>> No.24040934

>>24040857
Does it matter when Hololive as a whole is still stronger than ever?

>> No.24040967

>>24040857
I know, I just thought it was neat that she was top 'o the mornin'

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>>24040543
It does. There’s been repeated clips on lsf that’ve inflated vods. 2 others in particular have been KiaraKobo portal 2 vod (got clipped for 40k+ views) and an okd gta vod of Gura’s (50k+)

As for the stream yesterday, there’s a theory I have and it’s a likely case. So pic related, this was back on March 12th where it’d only been a few days since her within skerry vod. This was a 20k vod with minimal overlap and was a horror stream, but compared to her other vods of that same week that were below it in ccv, it actually performed considerably weaker AT THE TIME. And after seeing Pekora also have really average vods for her horror streams, my theory is that much of the viewers actually stick to watching it for the reactions, and there’s very minimal fluxuations in the overall viewership. That’d explain the lower than expected views

>> No.24041045

lets see how many funnel to Gura and how fast. Sana supposed to still be in VC so the sanalites should stay.

>> No.24041091

>sana funneling her views
THIS IS ILLEGAL AS FUCK

>> No.24041107

Gura closing in on 24k now from the Sana funnel kek

>> No.24041148

Sana had to end her stream, but said she'll remain in VC

funnel for gura incoming

>> No.24041149

>>24041045
>>24041091
>>24041107
still not using the redirect feature

>> No.24041156

Gura quietly getting 23k

>> No.24041171

how many VOD views/hour is considered good by Hololive standards? 100k/hour?

>> No.24041218

Tomorrow Kronii is also streaming Minecra. Finally, we're back to buffs at least once a goddamn week for the big ENs.

>> No.24041227

24k get

>> No.24041236

>>24041045
>>24041091
>>24041107
>>24041148
Ame is starting soon though, so any funnel is going to be even more diluted (although I bet the majority will continue to watch MC)

>> No.24041259

24k with the Sana funnel

Yes, a Sana funnel

>> No.24041265

Rrat: Sana is here and cares about the en gold.

>> No.24041274

>>24041149
That was the PERFECT opportunity, Sana is literally still on the VC and basically told people to go, I don't understand

>>24041171
only high tiers can get 100k

>> No.24041302

>24k
Gurabros.... we're home.....

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>people doubted that Gura Minecraft would get 20k

>> No.24041331

>>24041171
Over 100k a successful stream
Over 200k pretty good
Over 500k that's a HIT!!!!
Over 1 million legendary

>> No.24041371

>>24040829
In this case I still think when I started tracking Luxiem's, at least for the side of Vox, it was still during when his vods were getting "calculated" because as shown his gains dropped like a rock. On the other hand I think Fauna's Ad mishap might've deterred people and she probably should've tweeted out that it got fixed. But she's still getting higher gains than the other two so far, it's still too early to tell if it'll stay that way, even if it probably will.

The main issue I can tell from Luca's vs the rest is that he is...dumb. You turn on his stream and there's loud ass music into loud ass beep noises which might already be a put off for anyone even attempting to give it a shot for ASMR purposes, so it's really not surprising that his tanked as hard as it did.

>> No.24041373

>>24041302
I remember late 2021 before CCVID when she could get that alone on a neutral stream.

>> No.24041403

>>24041171
Its not that easy. Most high tiers won't get blow 100k for any stream, and yes that includes 1 hour.

But the more it drags on the less the 100k=1 hour applies.

>> No.24041434

This stream did a lot to help reintroduce Sana to the box.

>> No.24041500

>>24041373
>24k on a neutral stream
yeah nah that hasn't happened since early 21k anon. did you mean like, solo minecraft?

>> No.24041533

>>24040934
>still stronger than ever
>mogged everyday by Nijis and Indies
LMAO

>> No.24041560

>>24041331
I'd adjust that a bit

Over 100k a successful stream
Over 300k a HIT!!!!
Over 500k a MEGA HIT!!!!
Over 1 Million LEGENDARY

>> No.24041573

Wait, I thought Ame is in the sever?

>> No.24041576

>>24041533
weak bait

>> No.24041584

>>24041171
100k per hour of stream time is literally elite status. There’s only 2 holos that hit this consistently, and by consistently I mean like any time they stream, and that’s Gura and Marine. Not even Pekora gets it, however she has a really high ceiling and can easily hit really high views for buff streams. The same can happen for many holos like Kanata doing a collab for instance.

But like, your typical high tier Holo stream is likely getting somewhere around 70-90k views/hr. Mid tier is around 40-60k/hr ish.

In case you’re wondering though, Gura, Marine and Pekora on buff days can easily hit somewhere around 150-200k per hour of stream time. Aqua with tourist buff is way ahead of it all though

>> No.24041676

Does Council know Gura is already a big streamer and doesn’t need the huge buff of a 5 person 1 POV collab?

>> No.24041683

SNOT COLLAB LETS GOOOO

>> No.24041690

>>24041331
So Gura is a legend already?

>> No.24041706

>>24041676
Anon, they like playing with Gura. This is the same group that always plays with her.

>> No.24041723

>>24041171
>>24041331
>>24041560
>VODcope
RORU RUMAO
LOOK AT HOW FAR HOLO HAS FALLEN

>> No.24041729

>>24041560
2 million VOD streams are what, then?
Hell outside debuts or mega events, I can only think of :
-Noel ASMR
-Gen3 saying Rushia's fucking gone
-a couple of Gura's early honeymoon streams+ Duolingo VOD (recent joiner)

>> No.24041775

>>24041584
(me)
I just wanted to clarify as well that sometimes these stats can vary because some holos do have loyal fanbases that don’t sway from their streams. Like for instance, Kronii sometimes has average views for her streams that do well and that’s just because Kronies love her and stick with her through it all. Same happens to Pekora a lot and that’s why her vods can be wildly inconsistent for her size

>> No.24041837

>>24041560
Fauna on track to having tons of MEGA HITS let's goo

>> No.24041850

Is there any big stream tomorrow?
Since this week looks so skinny, this could have chances of getting gold

>> No.24041858

>>24041690
..yeah? I mean, even the hardest shitposter always attacks Gura for not being big enough NOW. There's literal denying she's a huge part of vtubing history.

Hell Kson can barely crack 10k but she probably defined the future of vtubing the most by making it really popular outside Japan.

>> No.24041876

>>24041302
Damn, that's nearly 100k ccv without the cull.

>> No.24041884

>>24041690
>gura
>not a legend
if anything she's a mythological creature

>> No.24041942

>>24041858
>Gura is a huge part of Vtubing history
>is a literal who outside of the Holo circle
Compare that to Vox who is well known even by non-Vtuber watchers lol

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the over-dependency

>> No.24041952

>>24041850
Anon no, there's no way we get 2 days in a row with skinny numbers. Yesterday's gold was 28k, and this isn't even getting there.

Also, as a chumbud, stop getting overly excited for golds with small numbers. I will not be burned by "JP holo eats Sushi, gets gold" again.

>> No.24041998

>>24041706
It's kinda weird, but HoloEN collab like this seems more genuine than whatever NijiEN is doing.
Like there is a progression of relationships in HoloEN while NIjiEN looks forced most of the time.

>> No.24042035

>>24040599
A niche is a niche. This is why adding new EN gens is better than not doing it, you catch the people who want a specific thing.

>> No.24042034

>Sana's viewers actually just left
Sanallite hate!

>> No.24042044

>>24041942
......?

>> No.24042088

>>24041942
trying too hard now

>> No.24042091

>>24041998
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh idc, stop shilling them here

>> No.24042128

>>24041533
>>24041723
>>24041942
>samefag
zhangs are literally a pest

>> No.24042136

>>24041998
The issue with NijiEN is that a bunch of them knew each other even before so there was no "testing the waters" or growing pains. Doesn't help that Myth in general was autistic as fuck about collabs. Bless Council for not being as autistic.

>> No.24042182

>>24042035
Sana is getting back in the box, should we not celebrate?

>> No.24042196

>>24041952
Yesterday gold slipped because Kuzuha decided to play a late night Apex and got it in the last hours. All the JP heavy hitters are still out (except Miko) and she needs to play a buff game to get 24k.
Of course it's a really easy slippable gold, but there's been dozens of golds lower than this

>> No.24042248

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8MQLh5SQRI
Wwe arc?? First flare now noel noticed it.

>> No.24042307

>show proof that Holos have stopped being relevant since 2020
>s-shut up Zhang
Do you people have nothing better to do with your lives? You do know they'll still go home and fuck their boyfriends not knowing you exist while you sit in your mothers' basements defending your oshi's honor to randos on the internet

>> No.24042312

>>24042136
Yeah, I feel like there's this lack of progression for anything NijiEN does. On the other hand, HoloEN seems more natural in how they grow as streamers.

>> No.24042337

>>24042248
shiraken vs usaken in wwe when ?

>> No.24042333

>>24042196
Yeah whatever man, enjoy losing gold to Subaru playing final fantasy or some shit.
Culls and viewers in the same timezone mean EN getting actual gold is reserved for giga events, its how it is.

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Interestingly, the drop isn't completely straight down like what usually happens with internet issues.

>> No.24042529

>>24041951
Hey, that's above 1k, it's an improvement over her numbers last year.

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>cunny mito singing
Gold?

>> No.24042632

>>24042337
>Implying miko gonna make peko character

>> No.24042671

>>24042601
Female and no bots to help her.

>> No.24042682

>>24042529
SLow and steady works anon. In 2034, all of NijijEN will beat HoloEN.

>> No.24042701

>>24042333
>I'm politely asking about numbers in numbers thread
>Get responded like shit by someone who isn't false flagging but appealing to emotions
>I answer politely giving the reasons why I think something talking about numbers
>That same person (not a troll or a false flagger which makes it even worse) gets mad for no reason and starts speaking some shit
I fucking hate /#/ so much

>> No.24042760

>>24041951
>metioning vox
kek

>> No.24042763

>>24041584
I asked because I noticed that Suisei hits the mark more often than not. Though hour long streams might have something to do with it.

>> No.24042783

>>24041837
The power of AMSR. Giver her a few year and she will have a bunch of 1 mil just like Noel.

>> No.24042832

>>24042682
And in year 3000, cover will be a dead company.

>> No.24042888

>>24042701
I'm not mad, just bitter. Sorry for acting up anon, this place is worse enough without that.

>> No.24042906

>>24042783
Come on noel is a different beast in ASMR.

>> No.24042953

What's up this ironmouse unityfag shit on catalog?

>> No.24042995

>>24042196
Don't get your hopes up and just be pleasantly surprised if it happens.

>> No.24043009

>>24042953
the same type of people that enjoy Mori's music, cucks

>> No.24043092

>>24042995
Aqua comes on for another shill stream and gets 30k

>> No.24043120

>>24042953
Long ago shitposters got mad about holo unity and began pushing this retarded meta unity thing

>> No.24043129

>>24042763
1hr streams cheat a bit because they’re short and replayable so it gives people a much higher chance to catch up on it. Also most of the traction happens in the beginning of streams and tapers off as time goes on, which is why the vods of those like Gura/Pekora are impressive, since they collect views no matter how long a stream goes.

Not to disgress though. I actually did forget about Suisei, she’s been inclining a bit and actually does hit that mark rather consistently in recent time. But yeah, it’s the rarity buff + being popular + doing streams that’re specifically tailored to being 1hr long. Kind of like Laplus, but Laplus has shown to be really poorish outside of her novelty stuff/zatsus

>> No.24043144

>>24043009
I don't think that the people that enojy Mori's music and the cucks are the same people. There's way too many people that listens to her shit compared to the people that even bother to indulge her streams.

>> No.24043170

>>24042248
HFZbros are cumming hard rn

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>>24042601
wrong mito to post anon

>> No.24043244

>>24042307
Stop fucking your sister and mother, go outside and touch some grass bro, get your head fixed.

>> No.24043264

Motivated EN feels like a sign of EN 3 is coming in the horizon

>> No.24043281

>>24042136
Now this is someone who doesn't watch NijiEN

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>>24040014
reddit is anti chink

>> No.24043370

>>24043144
forgot the important part, females too
they will push other girls to cuck males for fun

>> No.24043373

>>24043120
So they want unity for all of the vtuber industry except for Hololive?
I wonder how it will turn out when Hololive holds the majority of viewership.

>> No.24043536

>>24043373
Why would you want Unity with the cancer of the community? If anything Hololive and Holofags should be exiled

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man, versen sure makes the homos look like a success

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Success breeds jealousy.

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>>24043536

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SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

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Ame really is losing to a split pov collab of a single pov game

>> No.24043884

>>24043805
Calm down nijinigger, HoloEN streams do not reach the fucking peak early. How many times must this be said?

>> No.24043918

>>24043658
This fucking image, man.
A lot of Vox fujos have been using the Vox version of this image to shit on his "haters" and even those who dare speak against Luxiem on Twitter.

>> No.24043942

>>24043805
>3k
>3k
>3k
>4k
>22k
man, this timezone is really a thing

>> No.24044060

>>24043536
>cancer of the community
You mean nijisanji?

>> No.24044113

>>24043805
becasue ame keeps scheduling shit 30minutes before starting at random fucking times
you need AT LEAST 1hr for notifiactionsto go out on youtube.

>> No.24044139

>>24043918
Nijinen fan always try copy hololive even memes. Truly small dog syndrome

>> No.24044178

Apparently according to /hlgg/ Ame was...briefly on the minecraft stream and Gura didn't even notice her. Neither did I lmao.
Fucking Debuff Detective.

>> No.24044287

>>24044178
yeah the autist said "hi" and then dipped, barely anyone heard, and Gura didn't

>> No.24044321

>>24044287
Stupid autistic detective ARGH.

>> No.24044341

>>24044178
Seems like she wants to be a part of the fun but is too shy to impose.

>> No.24044343

>>24044178
She was there in VC, made a random retarded noise, then turn off VC and start Mario stream. WTF WAS SHE THINKING ?

>> No.24044498

>>24044343
>WTF WAS SHE THINKING ?
>women
>thinking
You'd think you'd understand by now seeing how the women ITT act.

>> No.24044610

>>24044113
Well that doesn't help, but that's standard for Ame. It's mostly because of the overlap with the (now) 3 mem MC collab. Once Gura ends, we'll see how much funnels to Ame and Kronii.

>> No.24044682

>>24044343
she didnt talk in the VC. only talked on chat but gura doesnt have chat fixed.

>> No.24044728

>>24044682
She did a very weird ''Hi'' and left

>> No.24044842

>>24044498
>ITT
Go back

>> No.24044848

>>24044343
Oh my god, she should have joined Gura to increase total HoloEN viewership by 2k instead of starting her own stream and bringing 3.7k viewers.
I know that chumpedos are retarded, but offering variety instead of licking Gura's ass is not a bad thing.

>> No.24044948

>>24044842
Trying to fit in way too damn hard there, boy. I am afraid you don't belong in this here neighborhood.

>> No.24044984

>>24043918
>using the Vox version of this image
kek
Really?

>> No.24045057

A tale of two graphs.

Left: tourist heavy HoloEN stream (Gura using Home3d for the first time). Reminiscent of a JP graph in man yways.
Right: core audience HoloEN stream (a bunch of fanbases banding together in one minecra stream). Sawtoothed to hell and back.

>> No.24045075

I was under the impression that in ye olden days when Myth was still fresh Ame was one of the more popular members. Am I just wrong or did she recline hard?

>> No.24045126

>>24044948
Go back

>> No.24045156

>>24045075
Self sabotaging

>> No.24045158

>>24044848
No one said that schizo.
Speaking of total views, HoloEN is once again at 30k.

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>>24045057 (me)
Fuck I'm stupid. The actual graph.
>>24045075
Unfortunately its kinda hard to deny she's declined. A lot of it is self debuffs, but I don't know if she could turn back that clock.

>> No.24045348

Ame still losing to the way out collab
>b-but Gura is streaming
Kronii just started and she was in the collab with Gura too

>> No.24045367

This is flying under the radar, but Kronii’s about to pass her peak from her previous pathless stream… in 15 minutes of starting her stream… overlapped by a 20k+ gura stream and Ame also streaming. Looks like the recent streams really ignited that fanbase again

>> No.24045452

>>24045246
>a bunch of fanbases banding together
>only 20k
Ohnonono holobros…?

>> No.24045466

>>24045348
korni had her streamf rame up by 5hrs
and let people know on the collab she would be streaming.

Ame just wanted to listen to the girls talking while instaling her shaders and setting a mariogalxy2 #4 stream 30min before starting
only the most loyal teamtes that are on youtube know she started streaming.

>> No.24045490

since when .... amesame dead bro ?

>> No.24045509

Kronii gushing over an indie game right now, never change clock.

>> No.24045526

>>24043129
>it’s the rarity buff
Can we stop with this? She does roughly the same quantity of streams every month

>> No.24045536

>>24045490
they are collabing on VR next week

>> No.24045562

If this is noctyx's numbers in NA, they'll outright die if EN 3 comes.

>> No.24045569

30k watching holo en

>> No.24045614

>>24045466
Yeah, the 'Debuff Detective' nickname isn't an exaggeration.

>> No.24045648

>>24045562
>they'll outright die if EN 3 comes
they already dead

>> No.24045715

>>24045466
not my fault

>> No.24045727

>>24045526
If she doesn't stream at least twice every day she has innate scarcity buff

>> No.24045779

>>24045562
All of NijiEN is just waiting room for Vox and Mysta.
On the other hand, HoloEN manages to build an individual brand for its members. It's quite impressive.

>> No.24045810

>>24045075
She's a perfect example of doing everything you can to undercut your ability to draw in regular numbers.

Not that I think she cares, since she's fixated so much on major event and novelty streams which are clearly her priority. She'd unironically be better in a management or production role in the way some of the small companies have a streamer that fills that role for them.

>> No.24045817

>>24045779
to be honest vox is on reimu stream but isnt helong her break even 4k

>> No.24045856

>>24045562
Remember the good old day when holo was still a small dog?
Noctyx will grow and bite you in the ass in the future for sure :)

>> No.24045888

>>24045562
why would Niji males fans watch EN3 at all? HomoEN may have a chance

>> No.24045889

>>24045817
was on reimu stream

>> No.24045927

>>24045562
>>24045648
>>24045779
what does the Luxiem/Noctyx audience have to do with EN3?
are you being retarded on purpose?

>> No.24045965

I'm actually more worried about the rat than Sana at this point. Sana has a very loyal base viewership while rat doesn't, and Sana honestly feels more natural in the open VC streams. Rat is sticking too hard to IRyS / Mori.

>> No.24045968

>>24045927
>>24045888
Probably a retard who thinks homoen is en3

>> No.24046041

>>24045968
I've actually seen that a few times in various bait threads in the catalog

is there actually any truth behind that rat? or is it just shitposters trying to get (you)s?

>> No.24046065

>>24046041
what do you think

>> No.24046077

>>24045246
>Decline
Meds zhang

>> No.24046085

>>24045927
They are just dreaming that niji fans would switch to holo to save their face kek

>> No.24046136

>>24045965
>threadnigger

>> No.24046149

>>24045965
all /vt/ know the rat is dumb

>> No.24046184

>>24045965
EN3 is going to be rough with Bae and will become a closer glimpse what JP is with overlaps unless they are also a bunch of shitters that don't stream or even worse boring hires.

>> No.24046209

>>24046077
nta, but he's talking about Ame, and "debuff detective" is no joke

>> No.24046216

>>24046041
The only "truth" to it is that in one tweet they described it as hololive auditions.

>> No.24046245

>>24045817
Not his timeslot

>> No.24046251

EN numbers guaranteed for tomorrow

>> No.24046274

look at these nijiniggers spamming the board with NijiEN pictures kek

>> No.24046279
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>>24046085
Then stop shilling your midgetsanji in every Holo topic like a small dog.

>> No.24046287

>>24045075
Ame hates tourists and did everything to sabotage herself.
She recently said she'd never release an alligator plushie because she doesn't want clipfags to buy them since they don't know her members are represented by gators.

>> No.24046295

>>24046184
Oh yeah I didn't even think of that, EN3 probably would hurt Bae the most.

>> No.24046303

>>24045562
Noctyx fans don't know what Hololive even is

>> No.24046313

>>24045562
I meant if EN 3 comes, their numbers would surpass Noctyx easily. 2-5k is their numbers even after a 60k ccv debut. Plus, Why would anyone thing EN 3 = StarsEN?

I didn't think I baited out the ESL fujos with this

>> No.24046397

>>24046313
No one who watches Noctyx is going to watch EN3. Their viewship numbers will not effect each other.

>> No.24046411

>>24046295
here comes the retards doomposting bae again rumao

>> No.24046466

>>24045727
I don't know if you are joking or not, but if the viewers expect the same number of streams every week, there's no scarcity buff since they are expecting something

>> No.24046512

>>24046279
What the fuck are you talking about??

>> No.24046519

Nijiniggers are so butt blasted by the success of this HoloEN Minecraft stream that they are flooding the catalog with garbage.

>> No.24046635

>>24046519
Why would they watch holo streams?

>> No.24046637

>>24046274
fucker made me filter all of the nijien branch.

>> No.24046663

>>24046411
All Bae has to do is move to 4am/5am EST/EDT for her streams. That will give her Korean fanbase a better opportunity to watch her (along with their superchats) and she will even catch a bunch of the NA HoloEN fanbase who have insomnia and stay up all night.

>> No.24046671
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24046671

big

>> No.24046711

>>24046671
Most Gura minecras are easy 500ks, nothing unusual that this one is starting off big unprocessed.

>> No.24046717

funnel time

>> No.24046731

>>24046184
Depends on what members EN3 are composed of. If Cover thinks the aussie and asian audience for holo EN is covered enough (which they should, if they're not dumbasses) and instead hires UK/EU or more NA streamers, then Bae (and Sana) may not be as affected as you'd think.

Speaking of Bae, I haven't been checking religiously, but I didn't see her members-only CCV break 300. Phone playlist bug caveat

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24046771

Seems Kronii's getting most

>> No.24046804

Time to see the incline on Ame and Kronii's channels now that Gura ended

>> No.24046830

>>24046771
I gotta say I did not expect this.

>> No.24046853

>>24046519
More like holo trying to falseflag again

>> No.24046855

>>24046671
>3.94 mil subs
>only 154k VOD
HOLY RECLINE

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24046864

>>24043805
Always getting too cocky too early. Classic Nijisisters.

>> No.24046865

>chumpedos back in action celebrating sub 30k CCV
Calm down please. No need to hype something like this. This is why Voxniggers make fun of HoloENs

>> No.24046926

Kronii with the fat +2k
Ame with +1k

>> No.24046927

>>24046731
is the townscraper game
is not gonna get good numebrs
>>24046771
a random indie game is gonna have more pull than another mario stream. doesnt help that mario galaxy 2 isnt that memorable.

>> No.24046931

>>24046864
4.6 > 7.7
sure anon

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>>24046855
Oh clueless anon, you beautiful thing.

>> No.24046973

>>24046274
I hate niji fans so much.

>> No.24046979

>>24046731
Its very weird that HoloEN has no brits. Surely they'll get one for EN3, right? Take over a dead timeslot+ sexy accent buff (as long as she has a sexy accent and not one of britain's 20 horrible ones)

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>>24046274
the fuck

>> No.24046982

>>24046663
Bae gets fucked cause of school iirc
By the time she's able to move over EN3 would have probably debut by then.
Cover still seems to be focusing on giving Myth sponsorships even after 9 months of Council being around.

>> No.24046987

>>24046853
Kill yourself

>> No.24047003

>>24046865
no one cares about 2k man fans

>> No.24047044

So why do NijiEN fans seem angry all the time? I don't think any does anything to them and they still try to scream the loudest.

>> No.24047065

>>24046865
>Voxniggers
who ? the Chink ?

>> No.24047107

>>24046864
>4.6 <<< 4.0+3.7
Can't you math?
Kek

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>>24046981
They spammed the board while every Holofan was having a party inside Hololive Global

>> No.24047135

>>24046931
>>24047107
>adding the two streams
kek

>> No.24047138

>>24046982
>Cover still seems to be focusing on giving Myth sponsorships even after 9 months of Council being around.
Council got quite a few sponsorships though? Not Cover's fault sponsors do at the end of the day want Myth, a very strong brand name, to shill their stuff.

>> No.24047147

>>24046982
Council still has sponsorships and other opportunities anon.

>> No.24047230

>>24046931
>>24047107
Struck a nerve? Look at what I was replying to, idiot, and don't samefag a third post.

>> No.24047232

>>24046981
Jesus

>> No.24047242

>>24047135
are we splitting the Minecraft VC collab into 4 then?

>> No.24047253

>>24046981
Someone needs to clean that garbage up.

>> No.24047258

>>24047107
Pfft always with the cope

>> No.24047325

>>24047119
Botting and spamming like behaviour, the nijitards special.

>> No.24047347

>>24047242
since when did we start combining multiple POV collabs gain?

>> No.24047364

>>24047242
Those fucking idiots willingly decided to do separate streams for a game that only requires one POV, that's their prerogative, but they shouldn't be counted together.

>> No.24047372

>>24047138
Myth has Kiara and Mori which are pretty safe for sponsorships. Council is kinda lazy to do promotions. Remember even Aki and Mel prominently gets sponsored. It depends on the chuuba's motivation if she has sponsorships.

>> No.24047404

>>24047347
Only as a 'this is roughly what the audience cap is' method, not for the horse-race.

>> No.24047467

Who the hell is Bae playing Jackbox with?

>> No.24047470

Marine and Fubuki selling tickets to a public recording of their radio show
https://skdw-kouroku-sp.com/

>> No.24047473

These are ridiculously low numbers for Ame even during her usual timeslot. I thought her having a regular schedule would help her but it looks like she never recovered from her previous months chock-full of cancelled streams and chaotic schedules.

>> No.24047479

>>24047372
Looking into it, Bae's last sponsorship was in January (Bookwalker)

>> No.24047488

>>24046519
>>24046987
meds

>> No.24047514

>>24047119
Do you seriously think it's nijifans doing this shit
we just want to be left alone

>> No.24047582
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24047582

Major improvement from her first Pathless stream
>>24046830
Not sure why you wouldn't, the stream was basically being promoted on Gura's Minecraft stream the entire time, they had it open and were waiting for her to play the game to show off the secret tunnel

>> No.24047585

>>24047473
>Usual timeslot
she doesnt have a suual timeslot she moves around 3 timezones
PLease tell me what time is AMT+3 supposed to be?

>> No.24047586

>>24047514
Sure

>> No.24047609

>>24047467
I just checked
with Roberu

>> No.24047618

>>24047372
Eh, it's a bit different. JP has way more big orgs and chains that approach them to do collabs all the time, which allows for Cover to give everyone a piece of the pie (since Curry Meshi, before, Yagoo had to go around scrounging instead of having companies come to them).
Meanwhile, HoloEN doesn't have anywhere near that level of clout, and they have way more competition on the sponsorship front. Means their options are more limited.

>> No.24047666

>>24047467
Me

>> No.24047688

>>24047514
You been shitting this place for far too long, now it's even worse with the fujos. Stop playing the victim.

>> No.24047719

>>24047514
Some of you do, I'm sure.
Too bad it's the Nijiniggers that fuck things up for everyone (note that while not every nijifan is a nijinigger, every nijinigger is trash).

>> No.24047730

>>24047514
let the holoniggers alone to falseflag in peace, anon

>> No.24047753

>>24047135
Holokeks combined that golden week tournament's every pov's CCV to mock niji's numbers few days ago though?
And get fucked by fuwa live kek

>> No.24047765

>>24046979
Brits are pretty crass and cringe and not into anime / idol culture. Honestly I wouldn't hire them either when Canada exists.

>> No.24047798

>>24047585
Ame usually fluctuates around AMT, but late night east coast used to be Ame's primetime overlapping with Gura. Teamates shouldn't be weirded out by this stream's timing.
Regardless, she got a very pathetic funnel from Gura. Even Kronii got a bigger boost. Will she ever recover?

>> No.24047800

>>24047514
considering your behavior in the past few months? yes.

>> No.24047806

>>24046979
Ame…

>> No.24047847

>>24047800
What fucking behaviors are you talking about????

>> No.24047857

>>24047765
>not into idol culture
britcucks are actually based? who would have thought?

>> No.24047892

>>24047798
>used to be Ame's primetime overlapping with Gura
maybe before july alst year.
and tat was mostly on her second stream.

>> No.24047895

Kek here comes the niggers victim mentality, you love to see it

>> No.24047912

>>24047847
every single post after luxiem debut

>> No.24047925

>>24047753
?

>> No.24047949

>>24047912
That is just you seething anon

>> No.24047952

>>24047847
take my advice retard >>24047730
they are known for being delusional fags
>muh cull
>muh bots
>muh nijifag boogeyman
let them cope in peace

>> No.24047976

For HoloJP, it feels like the longer you are with the company the more you'll incline. Seeing miso soup Mio get 10k+ for ever ystream for an entire month is something else, she's doing better than fucking FBK and Okayu.

>> No.24047996

>>24047949
surely it wasn't you bitches breaching containment.

>> No.24047999

>>24047618
So why would Cover waste time with HoloEN again? HoloJP is big now so they can scrap HoloEN altogether.

>> No.24048004

>>24047952
Go play the victim somewhere else. /#/ might get you in your sleep

>> No.24048075

>>24048004
No we won't
You are the one who should leave this thread holokeks

>> No.24048083

>>24046981
Its clean now, at least jannies did something right this time

>> No.24048095

>>24048004
I see holoniggers are getting too comfortable again
maybe it's time to rope yourself, don't you think so?

also, never leaving ;^)

>> No.24048119

>>24047798
>Thinking anyone cares about fucking Mario Galaxy 2 at this point
Also, 3 and a half hours of MC right into dinner for West Coast (if they eat later) or sleep (for East coast, almost midnight).
Anything after 8pmPST/11pmEST is kinda suspect for funneling on weekdays. I hate timezones so much sometimes.

>> No.24048156

>>24048075
>>24048095
Go play victim somewhere else then. Don't complain when people point fingers at you, faggots

>> No.24048177

>>24048095
Go troll somewhere else you halfwit whore.

>> No.24048175

>>24046927
>is the townscraper game
>is not gonna get good numebrs
IIRC Ame got like 600+ CCV on her members-only townscraper stream - teamates are probably more dedicated

>> No.24048182

>>24048083
Why niji can't have their own character's thread?
Just wonder

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>>24046184
>>24046295
Remind me of the time EN 2 was around the corner and everyone was arguing who was gonna get hit the hardest views count wise between Kiara or Ame. In the end Ame took the hardest blow from EN2, I could see Bae ending up in a similar position despite her streams never being awful. Doesn't help that they both have god awful timeslot for whatever reason.

>> No.24048204

>>24047798
I know that you're desperately want to make some kind of scapegoat to shit on Ake tonight, but please, consider the game she's playing, and the numbers she was getting with this game before.

>> No.24048225

>>24047999
>why does this company have products that appeal to different markets if one market likes their local product more than the other likes their local product
Any other retarded questions you might have?

>> No.24048253

>>24048175
That is not a lot which is my point.

>> No.24048266

>>24048156
they probably got angry their spam at the catalog got deleted and this is the only place they can get noticed, typical stuff

>> No.24048267

>>24048182
They were spamming the board

>> No.24048299

>>24048175
Just looking at the number of members in her chat in a typical stream is enough to tell that Bae has about 60% as many as the other midlevel ENs

>> No.24048301

>>24048156
We "ARE" the victims here.
Stop trying to falseflag us
We are unlike you

>> No.24048304

Why the thread quality so garba--
>11pm EST
Oh, I see...

>> No.24048308

>>24048225
Please don't feed the Anti-HoloEN /jp/ dimwit (you)s

>> No.24048307

>>24048225
Yes, since Cover sees the lack of return for HoloEN, why bother spending more resources on them?

>> No.24048329

>>24048200
>who was gonna get hit the hardest views count wise between Kiara or Ame
In retrospect, a retarded question seeing how Kiara streams in the deadest of time slots and no one wants to touch it. And also because Kiara's core audience is 4k saviorfags who watch only her anyway, so how the fuck would she lose them?

>> No.24048374

>>24047473
>Usual timeslot
Ame stream whenever she feels like it.

>> No.24048416

>>24048200
Meh, this comment needs some context because Kiara doesn't overlap with literally anybody and Ame is in such a spot because she's been trying her to best to recline for a long time

>> No.24048426

>Nijis wins
>Niji meltdown
>Holo wins
>Niji meltdown
>Indie wins
>niji meltdown
>No one wins yet
>Niji meltdown
It's all so tiresome. If nijiniggers truly aren't behind this and its all falseflaggers, this is a lot of falseflag dedication for a thread with 100 IPs.

>> No.24048429

>>24048301
Go back to your doxx site, girl

>> No.24048450

>>24048307
>spending more resources on them
When did that happen?

>> No.24048475

>>24048204
I don't care if you got upset. These are borderline Kiara SC reading numbers for a Mario game, really low tier for Myth. Maybe her getting bigger numbers during gimmick streams like VR stuff means that teamates aren't as big in numbers as most people would think and that her numbers are highly reliant on tourists.

>> No.24048489

>>24048267
But at least there are different character different topic each thread?
How is that counted as spam?

>> No.24048515

Choke on cock your false flagging bronies.

>> No.24048582

>>24047976
Mio is pretty deep into hololive, she participated in shilling Holoearth to viewers.

>> No.24048666

>>24048475
Why the fuck are you ignoring that her second part of playthroug got 5.5k without any overlap?

>> No.24048689

>>24048515
That wasn't falseflagging. Stop playing victim

>> No.24048691

A lot of people /here/ are obsessed with HoloEN downfall, is there a reason why?

>> No.24048707

>>24048475
5k for a fucking Mario game is low, but let's not pretend they're her flagship content numbers wise. I don't see the point of the this particular spazz out, this is the woman that was pulling 5-7k on Mario a year ago, when Myth was doing far better and had no one to overlap.

>> No.24048716

Maybe no one gives a shit about Mario Galaxy 2.

>> No.24048756

>>24047347
Ever since Holobronies got mad that Minecraft Festival wasn't getting numbers close to beating Niji's Baseball

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>>24048489
ahhh yes >different topic each thread?
cant you guys talk about your Liverspred in your own global instead of putting everyone of them in the catalog?

>> No.24048763

>>24048691
Small dogs syndrome

>> No.24048791

>>24048301
>victim
>constant containment breach and literally living in a doxx site
yeah keep telling yourself that.
>>24048691
small dog syndrome

>> No.24048845

What's today's gold menu, fellow holochads?

>> No.24048862

I'm not sure if you retards are just really susceptible to falling for false flags or if you're convincing yourself into believing that they're real because you're bored and need an enemy to shitpost against

>> No.24048894

>>24048845
Loli Mito

>> No.24048907

>>24048845
Gura sure gold this day.

>> No.24048959

>>24048894
her last loli stream didn't even get medal. Try again.

>> No.24048978

>>24048758
hololive can have their own character's thread but niji can't?

>> No.24049016

>>24048416
I doubt Kiara numbers goes down even when someone finally overlap her. Kiara built up a dedicated audience over time that barring Gura moving to Europe and start streaming the same time I don't think anything will change. Plus Kiara is a big enough numberfag that she of all people is 100% willing to change her timeslot by a few hours to not overlap with another huge vtuber.

>> No.24049018

>>24048978
Shut up. You know the difference

>> No.24049021

>>24048845
For the time being, nothing. I think today's gold will be Migo with 28-30k playing Power Pro or some shit like that. Then we have the factor that Miko is the slip queen unless she gets a huge lead. So some random stream making Miko slip in the last hour of the day

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>>24047372
Tallying up HoloEN sponsorships and holy shit HoloEN management fucking dropped the ball this year. Something must've happened in management cause they went from constantly getting collabs to a 4 month drought.
Council for reference.

>> No.24049038

>>24048845
https://youtu.be/Knt1aMDaJ78
sorry couldn't help it

>> No.24049056

>>24049018
Then tell me where is the difference?

>> No.24049094

>>24048691
Probably small dog syndrome.

>> No.24049097

>>24049056
Sorry, I don't talk with people not open to change their opinions

>> No.24049113

>>24049033
You should actually remove Bookwalker from Fauna. She herself admitted it wasn't a real sponsorship, and that her first actual Sponsorship was Blue Archive.

>> No.24049129

>>24049097
So you can't huh?
I see

>> No.24049152

>>24048756
literally never happened

>> No.24049157

>>24049033
Yeah this feels like a much bigger deal than losing a few thousand ccv here and there

>> No.24049161

>>24049129
k

>> No.24049178

>>24049033
holofest had them all busy

>> No.24049206

>>24049016
Yeah, Kiara has low numbers but really consistent because of how her fanbase is, but if somebody else overlaps her, it will affect her buff streams e.g getting 8k with Portal, if there was another EN holo streaming at the same time, she wouldn't get all those tourist

>> No.24049268

>>24049178
Council? what did they do for holofes?

>> No.24049272

>>24049056
Go to /NijiEN/ and ask you own kind fucking new fag. Hint: Mysta did get his own general but it fucking dead after a few days

>> No.24049305

>>24049268
Are you fucks serious

>> No.24049320

>>24048978
>>24049056
>>24049129
>why is that a problem that I'm flooding the catalogue with either redundant threads or threads that never get any replies?
holy shit

>> No.24049324

>>24049033
HoloEN is reclining...

>> No.24049336

>>24049033
When has Holo EN (upper) management *not* dropped the ball? Myth succeeded in spite of them. Really hope Omega's silence means there's an ongoing shakeup in management.

>> No.24049376

>>24049161
You can open a poll (not in this thread) to see others people think that is a spam or just a fucking normal characters thread
No balls

>> No.24049388

>>24049157
This might affect HoloEN in the future, and that's good. Sponsors know they get more out of real entertaining streamers, not these play-pretend women.

>> No.24049436

Holo is clining...

>> No.24049445

>>24049206
I think Ame is gonna be another Kiara, only her fanbase watches her, except big events

>> No.24049469

>>24049324
Giving a sololive to Mori was a mistake. It should have been for someone more deserving like HoloJP5

>> No.24049473

>>24049305
Yes.

>> No.24049490

>>24049056
>>24049376
there isn't enough demand for each member to have one, the threads would just die instantly. in this instance it was just one person flooding the board

>> No.24049500

>>24049376
>poll
explain to me how and why is having a "selen tatsuki" thread is not spam when /haha/ exists

>> No.24049501

>>24049033
Looks like holo is the small dog here compare to niji

>> No.24049536

>>24049336
Unlike the shit >we like to blame Omega for, sponsorships/collabs are directly his and upper management's responsibility. If they haven't had some sort of a shake up then they're fucked long term. WoWs and VC collabs seem to come from JP management so they don't get the credit for that.
Myth made management look way better than they actually were.

>> No.24049540

>>24049445
Haachama is a more apt comparison

>> No.24049553

>>24049376
I really hate Luxiem newfags

>> No.24049582

>>24049473
https://youtu.be/TtB0GZLum1w?t=14132

>> No.24049605

>>24049320
>flooding the catalogue
>the threads are being used for legit conversation
>while the holo ones are used to post porn and hentai
Which one is flooding the board

>> No.24049651

>>24049582
https://youtu.be/TtB0GZLum1w?t=846
Meant to link this as well

>> No.24049654

>>24049582
4 months for this?

>> No.24049669

>>24049605
>the threads are being used for legit conversation
lmao even

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3M get

>> No.24049711

>>24049654
4 months for that
Their birthdays
their half anni
and a slew of other shit that they do behind the scenes because they're not just streamers and have literally never been just streamers but because you don't see anything in the forefront you fucks actually think they do nothing and quite frankly i'm fucking tired of having this conversation

>> No.24049742

>>24049654
>Moving goalpost

>> No.24049760

>>24049536
Yagoo is too busy modeling for his employees to look for sponsorship and run the company. Please understand.
Why that man keeps clowning around is still mind-boggling me

>> No.24049786

>>24049605
>legit conversation
RORU
>IT'S NOT SPAMMING GUYS WE REALLY NEED THREE SELEN THREADS
RUMAO

>> No.24049820

>>24049500
OP probably just a newfag didn't know /haha/ exist.
Forgivable mistake

>> No.24049839

next nijien sponsor game. genshin alt
https://www.givemesport.com/88001705-tower-of-fantasy-cbt-players-emphatically-claim-genshin-impact-missing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nD3cnNlkyo

they are already sponsoring nijis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X69bwjASsc

>> No.24049939

>>24049839
And holo get…
Nothing!!
That is the karma for abandoning the most wealthiest market in the world kek

>> No.24049942

>>24049839
Yikes, NijiEN keeps getting more sponsors. This is going to be brutal for HoloEN.

>> No.24049952

>>24049820
see >>24046981

>> No.24050014

>>24049839
>google tower of fantasy
>most of the videos are about how it will btfo genshin, or how it will rival genshin, or how it will force genshin to wake up and improve
lmao small dog: the game sponsorship for small dog:the branch

>> No.24050015

>>24049820
>newfag
>doesn't lurk before posting
>forgiveable
Their whole family should be burn to death in a gas leak

>> No.24050040

>>24049952
And there are three fucking holo global in that pic
What is your point?
Does that count as spam too?

>> No.24050097

>>24050040
Holy newfaggotry
Please, go back to wherever the hell you came from.

>> No.24050129

>>24050040
where the fuck you think the term "2views" come from

>> No.24050183

Let's see...
>Deflection
>Samefagging
>Newfaggotry
>Playing victims
Jesus christ

>> No.24050194

>>24050097
You are the one who should go back

>> No.24050221

What is wrong with the amount of salt today? Did something happen?

>> No.24050232

>>24050194
Nice one chink. You sure told him.
Fucking hell this thread is in shambles.

>> No.24050239

what got these guys' panty in a knot this time? did some Niji graduate again

>> No.24050261

>>24049839
You're saying as if it's something big when NijiJp gets shit numbers for its sponsorship. To the point, most of it got boosted. I kept track at most of the sponsored niji streams for possible boosts over the past 2 weeks.

>> No.24050286

>>24050221
There's nothing I can put my finger on other than Gura locking down cripple gold beyond NijiEN's abillity to get it today. I really hope that's not the fucking reason for this spergout.

>> No.24050289

Just ignore the holobronies theyre just scared that they are being dethroned by niji because they fucked up the chinese market and are coping real hard

>> No.24050297

>>24050221
Gura got 25k+

>> No.24050346

Bug spray doko ?

>> No.24050349

>>24049839
So do you like...have a source for them sponsoring NijiEN or is this a prediction? I see two sisters already jumped the gun here >>24049939
>>24049942
But...NijiEN is NOT getting sponsored by these guys? It's just NijiJP?

>> No.24050390

>>24050261
NijiJP often get good numbers on sponsered streams

>> No.24050402

>>24050297
24.4k actually.
It's her highest stream in a while though, even if it was because of council coming in and doing an impromtu collab with her.

>> No.24050430

>>24050221
>>24050239
They are seething that they lost the paralympic gold which holochads dont give a fuck about

>> No.24050477

>>24050286
>700k celebration stream for Vox
Not so fast, it's time for the patented NIJIWORM (which after looking at the VOD views that one anon was tracking, looks to be more of a fanbase flagging issue similar to how sawtooths are indicative of HoloEN)

>> No.24050486

>>24050297
really ? that's it ? gura got 25K and now they're seething, and here I thought something major like Nipple twister happen

>> No.24050518

Fuck susan

>> No.24050592

>>24050430
>holochads dont give a fuck about
>reply kys when vox or others en males got gold
sour grapes

>> No.24050608

>>24050221
>>24050239
I attribute it to Ame's numbers looking like shit next to Gura's, and Sana casually putting the NijiEN streams under her leathery outback boot with a solid 5k CCV.

>> No.24050636

>>24043351
Wtf I love reddit now

>> No.24050650

>>24050477
It would be very bizarre for his 700k celebration to get more than 24.4k, considering his birthday didn't. Actually what the hell happened to his 600k? No celebration?

>> No.24050690

>>24050040
>threads created close to one another when one dies
>vs threads created hours after one another to spam
saying hours is very generous even considering /haha/ was created 2 days ago

>> No.24050691

>>24043351
There are many chinese in the America though?

>> No.24050748

>>24050349
its a chink game. the publisher sponsored them before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5SJa7Abk7c

>> No.24050749

>>24050691
They hate their ancestors, just like Americans

>> No.24050770

>>24050650
>Actually what the hell happened to his 600k? No celebration?
kek he failed the endurance to 600k so he didn't celebrate it, then did a 16hr Jump King

>> No.24050772

>>24048307
>>24047999
Because theyre not anykara that scrap the branch because of "low profit"or someshort

>> No.24050774

>>24050650
it was his 3 failed endurance streams

>> No.24050793

>>24050748
So it's a prediction, you fucking shit?
Make that clear.

>> No.24050800

>>24050592
bug fujos dont even know all ensharts are despised in here
how fucking new

>> No.24050812

>>24050691
Chinese who don't live on mainland usually hates mainland and have zero ties with them.

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>>24048691
Pic related

>> No.24050866

>>24050486
You underestimate the fragility of niggers, they sperg out over the tiniest things

>> No.24050871

>>24048978
And what next?
Put a whole fcking 100+ chara here?

>> No.24050885

>>24050592
Lurk harder
>>24011651
Holy shit where is this wave of Nijinewfags coming from ? Did the dox site disable the comment section ???

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>>24050390
These past two weeks, they had some low level sponsorships. I even thought Tower of Fantasy to be some shitty ass sponsored game at first, not something like Genshin's rival. Why would they even need to boost Shiina for 1k more viewers? Whatever they're doing, the game is shit and just a genshin clone.

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24050930

500k at the end of the week?

>> No.24050945

>>24050691
1st/2nd Chinese tend to despise the CCP, while recent immigrants are more likely to be massive shills for it. There are shades of nuance from those points, but just an observation.

>> No.24050963

>>24050895
this doesn't look like a boost my man. in fact that sawtooth shit is some HoloEN level of not smooth

>> No.24050975

>>24050930
This makes me sad for Anyers.

>> No.24050992

>>24050930
i wouldnt doubt it seeing as she got another buff from a popular ID streamer and got mentioned on the radio

>> No.24051006

>>24050930
If she picks up 6k+ a day, sure. She's certainly on fire right now.

>> No.24051016

>>24050930
Easy 480k tonight with PvZ

>> No.24051104

>>24050486
Anon did you forget about the endless sperging when Selen got 4k that one time last year? Nijiniggers literally predicate their entire existence on beating HoloEN and when they lose they pull out all kinds of shit to cope and deflecr with.

>> No.24051139

>>24050930
anya is such a failure. look what can be possible.

>> No.24051142

>>24050866
well first look at the catalog, I see bunch of baits and Nijis spam, and look at numbers thread there's a fujos deflecting and coping. So my first thought would be yep Niji gets another YAB, maybe I should lower my expectation next time

>> No.24051174

>>24050992
>got mentioned on the radio
Wait, what?

>> No.24051180

>>24050885
Pretending to be retarded is a time honoured shitposting tradition anon, one which nijiniggers are extremely fond of using.

>> No.24051182

>>24050975
>>24051139
LEAVE ANYA ALONE

>> No.24051184

>>24050963
Could you not tell the graph? It inclined at the 10 min mark after stagnating for a few minutes, not to mention, that unbelievably weird 1k growth after it and she stagnates there.

>> No.24051211

>>24050770
That actually stopped him?
I thought he'd be shameless enough to celebrate it 3 times anyways.

>> No.24051238

>>24046274
Probably got triggered by the hololive board poster

>> No.24051244

>>24050930
holo.poi still hasn't updated her sub count since she got terminated

>> No.24051252

>>24051139
I will still watch every Anya stream regardless...

>> No.24051267

>>24051184
This is a gacha game, no? Are you sure she wasn't..y'know..rolling gacha?

>> No.24051279

>>24051139
? Her average is higher than before
In which part of her is failure?
She's inclining

>> No.24051319

>>24051174
some indog anon said that the whole bot spam thing was mentioned by a local news station which also namedropped kobo
probably because she was also trending on ID side of twitter

>> No.24051338

its melissas bday today niji gold?

>> No.24051350

>>24050992
>got mentioned on the radio
Source?

>> No.24051352

>>24051244
Dev probably needs to be poked to fix it, something broke when her channel got bonked.

>> No.24051440

>>24050812
https://youtu.be/OMk0n-dhXAw
>LA
>pro china protest
Yeah sure

>> No.24051499

>>24050975
>>24051139
Im hoping anya gets boosted due to kobo being popular, I mean ive never paid any attention to ID until kobo (she only got my attention due to one of her slime voice clips) and that made me check out ID and now im gonna follow anya and kaela

>> No.24051519

>>24050895
It's probably just marketing shit like back in the day every new MMO was a WOW killer.
>>24050992
Kobo seems to be getting the best of both worlds, ID normies getting wind of her and she's been getting a lot of attention on the EN side through Kiara.

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>>24051267
Gacha roll = Sharp spike, steep drop after

It shouldn't stagnate after the big spike

>> No.24051621

>>24051519
>Kobo seems to be getting the best of both worlds, ID normies getting wind of her and she's been getting a lot of attention on the EN side through Kiara.
She's apparently also gotten some attention in korea

>> No.24051625

>Bae is once more starting a stream in some shit timeslot she doesn't stream in usually, under an overlap
how does she keep doing it anons. is it a strategy? could the debuff rrat be better at debuffing than ame?

>> No.24051629

>>24051440
Anon, what part of 'Usually' do you not understand?
Of course there are some groups of chinks that will support the CCP that live abroad, there's simply too goddamn many of them for that not to happen, but by and large 1st/2nd gen Chinese as well as those who left because they didn't like what they saw in the Mainland are more anti-CCP than pro.

>> No.24051660

>>24050945
This
I have Taiwanese ancestry, though I can't speak any chinese, so you could probably tell which side I'm on

>> No.24051666

>>24051625
Already covered, her schedule's a bit fucked until June.

>> No.24051670

>>24051625
She is usy on the nights we already went over it. she wont have a free schedule until june.
her only timeslot to stream is this

>> No.24051702

>>24051625
>solo Jackbox
what's going on with this rrat?

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>>24039919
holy shit

>> No.24051738

>>24051660
Everyday I thank the gods that my ancestors choose to leave the hellhole that is China

>> No.24051866

>>24051702
audience participation jackbox

>> No.24051900

>/#/ numbers
>east asians
>math
I have now realized that this is a thread is a proxy war battle ground for Chinese people to determine the fate of their place in the world.

>> No.24051915

>>24051738
My ancestors didn't have a choice, it's either leave china or get drafted into the fifty fucking civil wars that swallowed the country in the 20s

>> No.24051948

What are these chinese words?
Can't type chinks and niggers?

>> No.24051960

>>24051625
The good rrat is just trying to cover her waifu's timeslot since IRyS is down with Covid or nip flu and won't be around for another few days

>> No.24052051

the worst part about bae stream is that she put the reservaton only 1hr before starting.

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*casts a spell with malicious intent and unknown effect*

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>>24051625
Just noticed that she really struggles to hit 100k vod views these days.

>> No.24052391

>>24052201
Jeez. One look at council pre-debut had Bae be one of the favorites design wise. How'd she end being a low tier holo?

>> No.24052434

>>24052391
self sabotage streaming times

>> No.24052560

>>24048691
Seems some NijiEN fans unironically feel their best shot at success is to try to steer towards HoloEN's fall. I wonder if they even really like vtubers at all so much as just really hate Hololive and are hipsters trying to bandwagon anything they think could be a threat to it.

>> No.24052561

>>24049113
Source? Checking the vid she even had a sponsor code. I don't know how that diesn't count as a sponsorship.
https://youtu.be/IpRMNPdH-Po

>> No.24052630

>>24052201
mostly zatsu/short streams and debuff content.

>> No.24052644

>>24052201
ame and bae literally both in the same debuff mode now,

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>>24048691
say it with me
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>> No.24052686

>>24052560
You can't actually blame this one on the (now majority) of NijiEn's fanbase that consists of fujos. It's the Lazulight to Ethiria fuckers that basically consist of ex holo converts now zealously hating HoloEN, even as their once beloved branch has fully become manjisanji. They'll use the numbers the male nijis give them to shit on HoloEN, because finally TECHNICALLY NijIEN is catching up, even if its not NijiEN as it existed literally 4 months ago and it has been completely taken over by new fanbases with 0 interest in everything that came before.

>> No.24052707

>>24052391
Well, she's already sabotaged just by living in a timezone that's bad for most EN speakers,
and Cover was retarded for hiring 3 additional EN members (out of 6) in such timezones. Cover must have either overestimated the EN speaking fanbase in Australia and Asia and/or heavily prized "easier" management from JP HQ.
Add Bae's propensity to overlap with others and a drop in streaming frequency since Feb, and that's what you get.

>> No.24052714

>>24052560
There's a not insignificant number of nijifags who only watch nijisanji becasue it's not hololive, rather than anything they actually like about nijsanji

>> No.24052740

>>24050477
>>24050650
He isn't even at 700k right now.

>> No.24052817

>>24052707
Please Cover, take a chance with EU so I have someone to watch at night...

>> No.24052941

>>24052686
Nah, I bet most of the holo antis actually are the fujos. Many pre-Luxiem niji EN fans also watch holo EN, and still do (see Kiara and Pomu fanbase)

>>24052714
Tbf, the same is true vice versa. That discord leak months ago also really amped up the polarization, turning many holo fans into niji antis (rather than just not giving a shit about them)

>> No.24053056

Bae's views are dogshit but she's been coasting off of illegal view funnel.
Like most of the JP low to mid tier to be honest

>> No.24053101

Does anyone know if Vshojo's ccv median on twitch is still higher than Isegye? Feels like Isegye have been catching up

>> No.24053115

>>24052941
The discord leak is one thing, but the enforced segregation between the branches from collabing is what really battens things down as an airtight chamber for tribalism to grow. The most ideal time to break the ice would have been shortly before Luxiem came in because now you can't really deal with NijiEN without it being possible male collabs/very male adjacent, but they never took the chance and now it seems like it's easier for both sides to just ignore each other.

>> No.24053126

>>24052941
>Tbf, the same is true vice versa
no it's not, otherwise the stereotype about holofags would be that the first thing that comes out of thier mouths when asked about their oshi is comparing them to nijisanji, when that's clearly not the case and only exists for nijifags

>> No.24053183

>>24052817
The problem isn't people willing to watch, anon. If they don't apply, how will they ever give them a shot? I wonder if there has ever been a YORUP that ever mentioned applying for HoloEN.

>> No.24053224

>>24053115
I mean yes, it is easier for both sides to ignore each other, especially since now NijiEN has their own box they make a lot more use of than before. Like they're not Holo tier insular, but they've cut out a lot of the outer company collabs because of the option to collab amongst themselves.

>> No.24053372

>>24053183
Talking about applying disqualifies you from being chosen.
Just hope they get some people that actually have motivation or ambition to do something.

>> No.24053471

>>24053183
>>24053372
who even is the biggest indie european vtuber though? are there any big indies?

>> No.24053526

>>24053372
I do not mean while they're in the process of applying, but rather after selections ended.

>> No.24053779

>>24053471
The only one I can think of is Nerine and I wouldnt even call her a big indie, that and she has been in her menhera arc for years now so I doubt she would be hired

>> No.24053844

>>24053779
lol of course the EU scene is dead if people only know that drama peddler

>> No.24053845

Damn this VOD's gonna be chunky, hasn't even finished processing and its at 280k

>> No.24053968

Today Sana, Kronii and Bae mogged Ame in viewers. Is she now the least popular EN that streams in NA hours?

>> No.24054031

>>24053968
That would still be Bae. As much as you shitposters might want it, medians and averages determine hierarchy, not one what happened on one day. Any day.

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>>24053844
EU
>has a dead indie scene
>doesn't donate
>doesn't watch JP, EN or ID
>probably doesn't even apply to Hololive
holoKR has a higher chance of being created than holoEU

>> No.24054058

>>24053968
no question, Sana mogging her was the last straw honestly, she's the weakest EN especially since Kiara can get better ccv than her nowadays if Kiara streams in NA time.

>> No.24054278

>>24052817
Europeans are too ignorant and too pleb for vtubers. They prefer soccer. They also hate donating to women, it is anathema to them.
I promise you EN 3 will be all North Americans, they took they chances with Europeans and Austrlians and it didn't work.

>> No.24054304

>>24053968
Bae even mogs Kronii

>> No.24054345

>it's the no one watches EU holos loop again
>when no one actually streams in EU primetime
>when Kiara gets better numbers when she does
>when Ina gets good numbers just for catching a slight amount of euro primetime
EU pandering holos have literally never been tried

>> No.24054360
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24054360

>tons of ame anti shit in global from shitposters
>come to # first post i see is the same shit
im not saying Ame is a strong EN shes kind of flatlined herself but she isnt the weakest yet, Mario and her DK streams just always performed kind of dogshit

>> No.24054384

>>24049445
She's living up to the waachama name pretty nicely kek
I think comparing her to her sister chammers is better than Kiara

>> No.24054388

Like I said, all Bae does is absorb view funnels. Maybe that's why she's always overlapping, hoping other holos will end and lend them their tourists.

>> No.24054441

>>24054360
>she isnt the weakest yet
>yet
this is some "I used to rule the world" shit, teamate
She was literally nr 2 behind Gura for like, half a year. Now she's probably beating Kiara and Sana, maybe. On a good month.

>> No.24054464

>>24054345
Keep telling yourself that. Anime culture in the UK is dead, continental Europeans can't speak English, except Nordics.
And Europeans in general don't donate, it is foreign to them

>> No.24054521

>>24054360
>Mario and her DK streams just always performed kind of dogshit
Either either really good at Nintendo games or you get no audience in the west. She deserves the views that she gets.

>> No.24054535

>>24054441
thats why I used the word "yet". I doubt she will ever fall below Sana in any reasonable amount of time if ever but Kiara is a toss up.

>> No.24054581

>>24054360
>Mario and her DK streams just always performed kind of dogshit
she'll probably play more mario games after this so don't expect it to end

>> No.24054626

>>24054464
Bullshit. Veibae is literally an EU streamer and she does fine. There is an audience, you just have some seething hatred about the possibility of it for some reason. Between EN3 having 5 more retards overlap NA holos and drag everyone down to being unable to gain 10k solo ever, and 1 or 2 trying to get free EU timeslots, the second will be a lot better no matter how hard you believe UK/Nordics/Ireland (by your logic the only people who speak english in EU, I'm from eastern europe btw) can't sustain an audience.

>> No.24054646

>>24048691
Are EN fans really unaware of the grudge every single person has for them for the amount of garbage they gave other people because their branch is the "best"? And I'm not just talking about other companies but inside hololive itself, you think most of the jp and id fans like you guys? Delusion at its finest

>> No.24054721

>>24052391
>yoooooo a stream
>uhhhh it's at 6am
>ummm it's self translating to Japanese after every sentence
>zatsu zatsu zatsu
>HoloStars HoloStars HoloStars
You wouldn't even be able to point out her buff games

>> No.24054768

>>24054626
Does Veibae stream at EU hours though?

>> No.24054812

>>24054626
En3 need to find a boyfriend who audience watch stream all day to leech from then.

>> No.24054834

>>24054646
Go away /hlg/, your black ship ptsd shit is boring. It's been 2 years.

>> No.24054860

Kobo's growth right now makes me speechless. Like, some people here were shitposting about how Kobo might come after Vox, but no one believed them.
But Kobo these days has a good chance of surpassing him. That's wayyy after her debut buff.

>> No.24054907

>>24054768
Yes
>>24054860
Helps that youtube gave her a boost. Even fucking Kiara was boosted by a channel suspension/restoration way back.

>> No.24054965

>>24054860
>fag doesn't remember how good Gen x was doing far after their debuts
anonchama... Don't blow your bubble too big.

>> No.24055002

>>24050992
ID INCLINING! (unironically)

if kobo really get noticed on the radio that'd be sick

>> No.24055023

>>24054965
what's the longest debut buff for previous gens? enlighten me anon

>> No.24055026

>>24054834
You reap what you sow ENshart
And teacucks specifically deserve all this shit their garbage oshi gets with the amount of parading they do to her at the simplest of things.

>> No.24055046

>>24054860
>but no one believed them
Bruh, a fck lot know this will eventually happen
Its "them" who doesn't believe it

>> No.24055063

>>24054965
To be fair, by ID standards, Kobo might as well be their Gura. She's not catching up to Vox though, not unless he slows down or she accelerates. If both plateus, which inevitably happens to everyone, then god knows who will reign supreme eventually.

>> No.24055077

>>24055026
t.nijifag

>> No.24055096

>>24016848
These Veibae, Shylily and Zentreya numbers were EU primetime. There may have been others too but those 3 for sure since I remember them.

>> No.24055123

>>24055026
You're deranged mate. Seriously insane, seek therapy.

>> No.24055164

>>24055023
Chloe was getting much better ccv and subs 2-2.5 months into her debut
How long ago did kobo debut again? Has it been a month?

>> No.24055183

>>24055002
Kobo is everywhere in SEA these days. Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, and Vietnam love her and her memes.

>> No.24055214

>>24055077
>>24055123
cope, seethe and dilate fags

>> No.24055241

>>24055063
Anon, Vox is not dominating the whole country's vtuber scene. The ceiling for Kobo is much higher.

>> No.24055245

>>24055214
t.nijifag

>> No.24055272

>>24055241
Vox is dominating in China though?

>> No.24055295

>>24055241
We'll see. I'm not gonna play the niji game where its infinite incline projected in the future, even for Kobo.

>> No.24055296

>>24054345
Ok JP and ID don't stream at NA primetime and yet NA viewers still watch them
What's your excuse?

>> No.24055329

>>24055164
Chloe is a jap, ID debuff still affects kobo. Even then she's basically ID gura with the insane ammount of attention she's been getting lately. With context you could say kobo is comparable to early chloe without the official hololive shilling kobo every time

>> No.24055354

>>24055329
>without the official hololive shilling
thats laplus, not chloe

>> No.24055360

>>24055002
What can I say? Blue women never let us down (most of the time)

>> No.24055375

>>24054965
Gen X tried hard until they got their first paycheck and then 3/5 of them checked out.

>> No.24055380

>>24055183
Hell ive even seen here memes pop up in a flip clash of clans and dota 1 discord group and she's the first vtuber meme that ive seen posted there

>> No.24055383

>>24055272
He's just popular with a small section of their fujos that manage to wander their way to him. Doesn't mean he's getting mentioned by popular streamers in China or getting mentioned on the radio there.

>> No.24055411

>>24055354
KEK i got it wrong, well actually you still can compare them both with context

>> No.24055458

>>24055183
>>24055380
source?

>> No.24055463

>>24055329
Don't do this kobofags, are you not seeing what's happening to the EN fans each time their girls flop? Even if it's just for one stream people will start grudeposting at ever possible chance.
I understand that you're happy about your indog but don't start crying once she flatlines and people start shitting on her, she already has her plate full with other indogs trying to put her down

>> No.24055524

>>24055383
It’d probably be a big problem if he was cause the more eyes he gets on him the more likely someone important will notice all the money that’s leaving China and influence he’s getting.

>> No.24055552

>>24055463
I'm just enjoying the moment anon. I understand your concern but what i said about her isnt even a hyperbole. Real ID idols watch her streams regularly

>> No.24055558

>>24055458
Anon, just search Hololive Vietnam Facebook page, and the rest will be history.

>> No.24055571

If gura were in ID she wouldn't get half the traction that kobo got
These are the facts. It's insane kobo is getting where she is despite being debuffed by being an Indonesian

>> No.24055584

>>24055383
You really went there to explain it to her? She's a shitposter, anon. The majority of Chinkmen still likes Hololive, the minority antis just has a larger voice and power to undermine that. That's why A-Soul is failing despite Hololive pulling out after two years.

>> No.24055609

>>24055552
I saw a clip of a 7 mil sub ID youtube reacting to her so she is already getting into mainstream.

>> No.24055627

>>24055571
The whole getting canceled by youtube thing might have been a slight buff for her since she was apparently trending on ID twitter for a while

>> No.24055646

>>24055552
See, retard?
You're already getting falseflaggers >>24055571

>> No.24055710

>>24041998
NijiEN livers all know each other and have fun.
But take any slice of the NijiEN audience and chances are they won't know half of the people in the collab.

>> No.24055780

>>24043918
lmao
how badly is that one photoshopped?

>> No.24055786

>Make up your own falseflagger
>call them (yourself) out for being a falseflagger
Why are indogs like this?

>> No.24055790

>>24055646
I mean he's half right if we take it literally, Gura had the buff of being a EN meme before she became gura and that helped her traction. But the same meme wont get her traction in the ID audience

>> No.24055839

>>24045562
>EN 3
* Wave 6 you men

>> No.24055893

>>24055463
here's the thing, IDs has nothing to lose
kobo could never flop, she already reach the goals and now she's trying to aim even higher
there's no ID could even come close to her, if she somehow falls, she'll stays at the tops

>> No.24055904

>>24055786
Why do blue women invite such SCHIZO fucks? I swear to god...

>> No.24055931

>>24055904
lamy has schizos?

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24055935

>>24047514
Nijiniggers and their lies

>> No.24056006

>>24055931
Somewhat yes, though more in the form of gen5schizo than anything else in /#/.

>> No.24056015

>>24055904
Kanata has schizos?

>> No.24056037

>>24050864
lmao are they barking at Neo Porte too?
or are you talking about HALschizo?

>> No.24056044

>>24056015
/hlg/

>> No.24056050

people handing out (you)s in these parts, huh

>> No.24056075
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24056075

>>24049674
Atishi strong

>> No.24056076

>>24056015
Pfffffffffft
Of course lol. The Watame vs Kanata schizo war never end in /hlg/

>> No.24056119

>>24055935
>niji free
The IPO thing is still going, right? will they still free after this?

>> No.24056219

>>24055931
The lamy cult is basically one huge schizo group who instead of meeting their oshi wants to become lamy instead

>> No.24056248

>>24056015
Yes and Kanata is not a blue woman.
>>24056076
It's been going as far as when Watame, Kanata, and Suisei have the same subs numbers.

>> No.24056252

>>24055383
> Kobo radio mention
when the fuck did this happen?

>> No.24056272

>>24056119
If it affects their stock price, probably not.
Their IPO report said they will tone down on content that could be seen as explicit or morally questionable iirc.

>> No.24056282

>>24056119
Yeah, gonna be fun seeing all their """creative freedom""" from now on.

>> No.24056342

>>24055839
I guess you could add that. Wave 6 is a mixed gen.

>> No.24056353

>>24056119
Is the freedom thing that big of a deal? Like, a lot of Holo streams feel very laid-back, even a lot of members commented that their managers did not enforce a quota anyway.
The only thing is to keep content at least PG-13, not because of being restrictive but because of YT's lame ass rules.

>> No.24056355

>>24056272
>Their IPO report said they will tone down on content that could be seen as explicit or morally questionable iirc.
Never really watched niji but arent their asmr streams their most popular? how would that work?

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24056417

>>24056272
OH NO my creative freedom.....

>> No.24056440

>>24055935
These people don't actually know what a vtuber truly is and what they're known for but I guess it's true for nijiJP too. They all act like twitch streamers, not anime characters. That's why Holofags also shit on Calli.

>> No.24056492

>>24056282
>freedom and chink
yup, not going to work

>> No.24056534

>>24056440
Is that why Twitch vtubers don't stand out at all? Like Hololive and Nijisanji, they are both streamers and performers. On the other hand, Vshojo seems just a mish-mash of streamers who happen to use anime models.

>> No.24056662

>>24056534
yeah thats also my personal rrat on why they dont stand out

>> No.24056669

>>24056534
Yeah, I mean just look at Miko's little introduction dance here : https://youtu.be/EI48ncqX6_k?t=133

What NijiEN/Vshojo can give you that level of "anime"ness?

>> No.24056751

>>24056534
Isegye gets 10ks every night, just from zatsus, 3D events and shit. Best part is that they're just an all female idol gen with male managers. They're literally Holo-lite with a yagoo-like figure as head honcho. They're also arguably bigger than VShojo when only Ironmouse could hit 10k reliably and are pretty dominant in the KR vtuber scene. Shoto could only get 10ks from Horror or being gay or doing collabs with Luxiem.

>> No.24056985

>>24056534
Thats honestly what confuses me for some vtubers. I totally get it if you use an avatar in order to protect your identity but if you still exposes yourself even after you get an avatar then whats the point? since regular streaming is still more popular than vtuber streaming

>> No.24057373

>>24056985
it's either
>ugly irl
>hag
>trying to fit in
>it's what they prefer
>failed as just a streamer

>> No.24057388

>>24046731 (me)
>>24048175 (me)
Btw, forgot to mention this earlier, but Mumei was hovering b/w 800 and 900 CCV for her members-only zatsudan that overlapped with the MC collab today. Note: I only checked about 4 times

>> No.24057393

>>24056985
Well some like kson doesn't really care about anonymity and use it interchangably based on situation, while I think some 2views test the water with an attractive anime avatar first and then show real face when they finally have a dedicated fanbase.

>> No.24057415

>>24055904
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>> No.24057538

>>24056119
>>24056272
creative freedom was already a cope before IPO menace of the don't do so much outside celebration, karaokes and any other buff gimmick

>> No.24057550

>>24057393
So becoming vtuber to jump on the bandwagon, then move to real-face streaming? No wonder they are called whores.

>> No.24057560

>>24056985
would explain why ironmouse is the only one with high avg ccv. she's the only one that sticks to the character with a blend of some of her irl. might be out of personal reasons as i can see why she would rather be her character than her irl self.

>> No.24057610

>>24057550
Now that Hololive is actually being noticed by the wrestling community, I can't help but compared Niji fans to that of AEW fans since both keep harping about "creative freedom"

>> No.24057616

>>24057393
>while I think some 2views test the water with an attractive anime avatar first and then show real face when they finally have a dedicated fanbase.
Im actually curious if it has actually worked, like someone who started out as a vtuber and then did 180 and now does a real face while still retaining her viewers?

>> No.24057646

>>24057610
Ive noticed that too, hell their schizo's actually act like the same schizo's like /pw/ has like ojama, bixelspammer and wolfcuck

>> No.24057659

https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1524285366269734914
HoloEN Minecraft arc is coming back in full force

>> No.24057683

>>24056252
the youtube deleting channels thing made national news bro

>> No.24057775

>>24057646
Not to mention Sean "thigh rubbing, panties smelling" Rob Sapp

>> No.24057791

I warned you about the nijiniggers, bro

>> No.24057822

Choco 5k get for a zatsudan

>> No.24057854

>>24057659
Doesn't anyone also feel that Fauna is a monster in the sheet? Like her soft-spoken nature is hiding her freakiness in bed.

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