/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Fans manage to piss off every fanbase
>They manage to get exiled from many boards
>It's everyone else's fault
>eternal victims yet always the aggressors
>can't criticize them or you're called a zhang (nazi)
> Brainwashing and alienation throught idol culture
> Destruction of the family. The CEO wants their fans to be obsessed with their idols and forget marriage, kids and family.
> blatant nepotism
> numberfags

[Anonymous No.]

Zhang thread?

Zhang thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>nijisanjification

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cunny

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https://files.catbox.moe/tt8a2u.webm

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>>24023529
holojews

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>>24023529
>being this mad
At least 50% of /vt/ is Hololive discussion. I'd hate to be you.

[Anonymous No.]

welcome to holoboard tourist

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[Anonymous No.]

The holobrony cries out in pain as he strikes you

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>>24023529
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

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>>24023529
anon, you're currently on hololive Board now

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>>24024367
Forgot your image from the other bait thread?
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[Anonymous No.]

Nijibro projection. Why are they like this?

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>>24024487
yep considering the responses on this thread, everyone is indeed bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>but Nijisanji
>but Nijisanji
>but Nijisanji
>but Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>24023529
Oh look, it's a nijitranny butthurt about hololive's popularity despite somehow perpetuating a fantasy version of idol culture which said nijitranny refuses to learn anything about, yet still makes it their mission to destroy.

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>>24023529
>They manage to get exiled from many boards
Can we get "exiled" one more time so we can get away from retards like OP?

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>>24023529
If you don't like hololive maybe you shouldn't spend your free time in the hololive board

[Anonymous No.]

>>24023529
Chinky zhang

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>>24024813
>>24024920

>>24024657

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>>24023529
> Destruction of the family. The CEO wants their fans to be obsessed with their idols and forget marriage, kids and family.
Anybody that watches a vtuber is immediately rendered impotent and a virgin regardless of previous history. I am not shitposting, this is an actual fact.

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>>24025050
What does you bring a chinky zhang have anything to do with Niji

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>>24023529
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/23984436/#23984436

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>>24024858
Yeah sure, do you want the next board to be called /holo/ or /hl/?

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>>24025050
>>24025106
self report lol

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>>24023529
Being popular doesn't always implies quality (eg Justin beiber), but lack of quality sure as hell implies lack of popularity
I don't care about the irrelevant shit you watch, have fun malding in hololive board

[Anonymous No.]

good description of nijisanji

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>>24023529
Still outperforming their competitors. Stop seething and step your shit up. Cover needs some legit competition.

[Anonymous No.]

As a tourist, the tribal wars on this board are both pitiful and fascinating to watch. I'll never understand the mindset, but it makes me feel like a nature researcher watching apes throw rocks at each other. How did it get to this point?

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>>24023529
>/vt/ was meant to be an holo board after the last exile
>nijichinks can't stand having something to reeeee over
>/vt/ becomes cancerous because of nijichinks and their special brand of autism

No wonder everyone hates fucking chinkysanji so much now

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>>24027730
The typical 4chan poster is too pathetic to start fights irl so they instead chimp out on anonymous imageboards

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>>24028099
About time I reset the counter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24028230
I don't see anyone mention the chink overlord outside of situations like this

[Anonymous No.]

Nijiseethers lmao

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>>24023529
Fungus Covid is that you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24027730
people do this everywhere, it's just easier for them to show their true nature here. some trolls just fishing (You)s.
bur it's not an anonymous board without tourists coming here to virtue signaling to feel superior.

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>>24023529
Not once have the "superior" holobronies tried to refute a single point

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>>24023529

you forgot

>hypocrites who dont even discuss half their branch and let all the generals like duck die due to inactivity and the generals that are alive are just zombie threads

>welcome to the hololive board!
>nice! so what about that duck stream?
>what? anyways purple dragon bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>24029272
Not once have the "le patrician" niviewnipplers made a point in this thread.

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>>24029638
This is such a bizarre take I can only assume it's a falseflag. I'm waiting for the 200+ generals for every single Nijisanji member.
>purple dragon bad
Oh, it is.

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>>24029790

>but nijisanji

im talking about the fact literally fucking no one ever replies to me whenever I bring holoJP streams and they would rather create the milliont purple dragon bad on the fucking catalog you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>24023529
Today i learned vox's kindreds who keep fueling tribalism unironically want to suck vox's dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>24029876
I talk about peko streams.
I also talked about her feet.

But be happy there's no more low quality spam like there used to be. "Live posting" is fucking cancer

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>>24023529
>Fans manage to piss off every fanbase
Nijiniggers think they represent every fanbase, delusional cucks

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>>24029876
>expecting JP talk on the EOP board where no one is even N5
A thread still exists on /jp/ for a reason, which you should already know about. Your posts have a weird energy to them.

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>>24030191
>hololive has a /jp/ thread
>vivid discussion about Japanese vtubers
>nijisanji has a /jp/ thread
>hurr fuck off we're not going to discu- I mean spoonfeed you the stream! You're just too dumb to understand streams! That's why we dont talk about them at all!
Man I miss the pre-EN days.

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>>24029272
what points

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>>24030272
ENfags don't and will never know. A shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24030272

>hololive has a /jp/ thread
>vivid discussion about Japanese vtubers

you have never been in that thread

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>>24030318
You have never visited that thread pre-September 2020.

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>>24023529
>[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.]

>>24030318

pre /vt/ during the era of gen3 and gen4 debuts you could actually get discussion around most of them and ongoing streams, nowdays its just a zombie thread where no one really posts anything interesting anymore.

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>>24030054
I dunno, not too long ago Holofags did a number on the VSPObros. The only reason I can imagine it didn't get any more nuclear is because Aqua jobbed for most of it.

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>>24030525
gen 3/4 was peak holothreads here.
>EOPs actually trying to learn Japanese
>People actively talking about vtubers
>Everyone just generally having a good time enjoying a new niche hobby

I miss it.

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>>24023529
Seethe zhang fujo

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>>24030603
>VSPO concerntrolling again
I'm sorry it didn't start the flamewar you wanted but the tournament's been over for weeks now.

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>>24025545
I'm sorry anon but that's not how implication works. "p implies q" and "not q implies not p" are equivalent, you just contradicted yourself.
Then again real life doesn't work like formal logic, and you might make an argument that is similar in spirit if you used some statistics maybe.

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>>24023529
success breeds jealousy

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>24025545
>>24034827
I think the intended wording for anon's second statement is
"lack of popularity implies lack of quality"
While very debatable, it is at least an internally logically consistent position.
Because "p implies q" and "not p implies not q" are independent, one can assert the first one is false and the second one is true.

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>>24027730
This board is /v/ with minimal janitorial presence

[Anonymous No.]

>>24034827
not commenting on the actual value of any of the assertions made but you seem to have misread his statement.
"p does not imply q" is the first statement, not "p implies q"
"not q does not imply p" is the second statement.
those aren't contradictory.
>rectangle does not imply square
>not square does not imply rectangle

[Anonymous No.]

>>24034827
anon stated
!q -> !p
This is not equivalent to p -> q

and for that matter p -> q = !q -> !p
is only true if we're working on solely these 2 variables which anon specifically said is not the case.

congrats on passing your freshman engineering course though.

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>>24023529
Everyone say hi to Fungus Covid!

[Anonymous No.]

>>24034317
>Concerntrolling
Whatever gay shit you're batting around in your head aside, it just stuck out to me because it was a repeat case of rabid Holofags off their leash at the slightest excuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24035278
I worded it poorly, sorry
his first statement is
not(p implies q)
his second statement is
(not q implies not p)

see the contradiction now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24035475
You're trying to apply binary logic to something where he never implied he was using binary logic.
>Being popular doesn't always implies quality
bad english aside, he specifically say
>doesn't always
This does not mean !(p implies q) it means that p doesn't always imply q, which explicitly is not a binary implication.

also stop saying implies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24035313
Alexa what is contrapositive?
But yeah I do think the real world introduces many variables which makes real world logic quite different from formal logic.

I just wanted to point out how stupid it is that anon uses Justin Bieber as an example to prove his first statement, yet Justin Bieber clearly disproves his second statement.

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>>24035475
statement 1 isn't not (p implies q)
it's p implies not q
Those aren't interchangeable.

>[having lungs] does not imply [human]
>not [having lungs] does imply not [human]
Is this contradictory?

[Anonymous No.]

>>24035690
Its only true if those statements exist in a vacuum which is not the case here and that claim didn't exist until you created it out of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24035659
Isn't !(p implies q) and "p doesn't always imply q functionally" the same?
Name a p and q that shows me the distinction between those two statements.

[Anonymous No.]

All streamers are like idols, only they don't sing or dance.
Only unicorns think their oshis (even if they're male streamers) aren't idols.

[Anonymous No.]

>post chuber face
>AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE

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>>24035807
How is your reading of the first statement even accurate?
How does that translate to "p implies not q"?
"n is prime doesn't always imply n is odd" is a true statement
it doesn't mean "n is prime implies n is not odd"

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>>24025545
Look, forget formal logic, I shouldn't have brought that up. It's not really applicable.
Just focus on Justin Bieber for now.
(That is, assuming quality isn't subjective anyway)

>Being popular doesn't always imply quality
Proof: Justin Bieber.
He is popular, but doesn't have quality.
Ok, checks out
>Lack of quality sure as hell implies lack of popularity?
...What about Justin Bieber?

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>>24035824
no because the explicit claim of
>doesn't always
also means
>sometimes does

in his original example
popularity does not always equal qualtity
aka where you pulled p and q from and where he already addressed it with its own example.

You can have P without Q, because popularity exists can exist with or without Q, but you can't have Q without P.
The 2 are not intrinsically tied together.

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>>24035824
>Isn't !(p implies q) and "p doesn't always imply q functionally" the same?
What? No. There are an infinite number of examples contrary to this.

firstly, what anon said:
[eating vegetables] doesn't always imply [herbivore]
[not eating vegetables] implies not [herbivore]
Not contradictory.

secondly:
>Name a p and q that shows me the distinction between those two statements.
>"p doesn't always imply q functionally"
[plant] doesn't always imply [safe to eat]
>!(p implies q)
not (plant implies safe to eat) -> not plant implies not safe to eat
Those aren't equivalent at all.

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>>24036130
>sometimes does
!(p implies q) also means "sometimes does"
>you can't have Q without P
then he should have said lack of "P implies lack of Q", not "lack of Q implies lack of P"

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>>24036119
Twist my words all you want, If you can't justify this contradiction, then your supposed logic skills are useless.

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>>24036449
p does not imply a lack of q in his example though.
p exists independent of q.

you're retarded.
I don't even know why you tried to bring formal logistics into this out of nowhere.
and for the love of god stop saying implies, nobody says implies when talking about logic because implies carries entirely different connotations.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you guys keep bumping this thread with your stupid math argument? Go to /sci/ or something. This is a Japanese puppet animation show board for fuck sake.

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>>24036314
... that's not how you're supposed to apply negation to an implication
>>24036653
sorry, typo, last line I meant he should have said "lack of P implies lack of Q"

Anyway fuck formal logic, I don't know or care who's the stupid one here, if you can't address the Bieber problem then all that mental gymnasticz means nothing.

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>>24036119
>>24036449
>>24036864
You're tripping up on the second statement somehow.
>killing multiple people doesn't make you a serial killer
Proof: Elliott Rodger
>not killing multiple people does make you NOT a serial killer
Proof: everyone who hasn't killed multiple people isn't a serial killer.
>What about Justin Bieber?
What about Elliott Rodger? He's still not a serial killer. What are you even tripping up on?

The set of all (not serial killers) contains Elliott Rodger and is mutually exclusive from the set of (serial killers)

The set of (people who have not killed multiple others) does not contain Elliott Rodger and intersects with the set of (not serial killers) but is mutually exclusive with the set of (serial killers)

The set of (people who have killed multiple others) contains Elliott Rodger and intersects with the set of (not serial killers) and the set of (serial killers), but is mutually exclusive with the set of (people who have not killed multiple others)

Elliott rodger is found in the intersection of (not serial killers) and (people who have killed multiple others), but is excluded from the set of (serial killers) by definition.

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>>24036864
For your Bieber example that I really hope you're just trolling over:

The set of all (popular people) contains Justin Bieber and is mutually exclusive from the set of (not popular people).

The set of (high quality things) does not contain Justin Bieber and intersects with the set of (popular people) but is mutually exclusive with the set of (not popular people)

The set of (low quality things) contains Justin Bieber and intersects with the set of (popular people) and (not popular people), but is mutually exclusive with the set of (high quality things)

Justin Bieber is found in the intersection of (popular people) and (low quality things), but is excluded from the set of (high quality things) by definition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24023529
Don't worry I have a bunker
https://t.me/+xsxp_AHHjSxlMjlh

[Anonymous No.]

>>24037017
>>24037207
Let me put the original post's words in number terms.
Say "popular" is "prime" and "quality" is "odd"
and "Justin Bieber" is "2".
>Being prime doesn't always imply being odd
OK, the number 2 proves that.
>Not being odd sure as hell implies not being prime
The number 2 disproves that.

Juggle the sets all you want, 2 disproves the second statement.
I don't think you're really getting what I'm trying to assert here. You do know how to disprove a statement, right?

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>>24037640

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>>24037640
P.S. I know how the sets look like, stop trying to tell me how the sets look like. What I'm saying is if the sets look like that, that means the second statement is false.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24023529
ok zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>24037803
>but lack of quality sure as hell implies lack of popularity

Look at that fucking diagram and say that to me with a straight face.

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>>24037803
this isn't how venn diagrams are supposed to work

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>>24037947
It's pretty clear that the original poster meant it the other way around unless you're intentionally being obtuse about this whole matter.

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>>24037947
Not him but I only pointed it out previously because your logic is still flawed even if his was as well. The difference is he wasn't trying to use mathematics to make the claim while you made an ass of yourself.

Yes the initial poster made a contradiction but your logic in proving so was flawed. And because he was just typing a generic 4chan argument and you pulled out
>muh formal logic
you're the dumbass here.

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>>24038132
I did say what his "intended wording" was here
>>24035022
To be honest I am being obtuse about the wording.
Regardless, I am correct.

[Anonymous No.]

can you fucking faggots go back to arguing about my tribe good your tribe bad that at least is funny this is just cancer you faggots are so cancer you derailed a cancer thread

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>>24038392
Oh nyooooooo

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>>24037803
there are so many examples of media of high quality that is also “unpopular” in a general humanity sense. for instance, haibane renmei is one of the best anime ever created yet has virtually no presence on the internet and i’ve met exactly 1 person in my whole life who’s watched it

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>>24038248
>Yes the initial poster made a contradiction
That's all I needed to hear. Goodbye now, thread can go back to tribalfagging in peace.

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>>24028230
>Crying over a chuuba that got beat out by the least popular en holo
>With the second worst design in all of Hololive
>With less time streamed then your chink fujo baiting britbong
>With the aussie nerd
It turns out our Yamcha was stronger than your Gokue after all faggot
Rumao

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>>24038248
new IP here. everyone except the first responder is stupid, including you. this is why Western society is doomed, because nobody weeds out idiots like this. Just look at the Venn diagram and the original statement, and try a bit harder than they taught you to in public school. It's not that hard, you dumbfucks.