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If Hololive EN3 is not euro hours I give up and stop watching this shit

>> No.24013377

>>24013309
It's HoloEN
EN
English
Not European

>> No.24013560

>>24013377
HoloEU will consist of 5 members from Europe
The languages they will speak will be French, Italian, German, Russian, and Latin. They will also all have an underlying hate towards each other but the facade of them being in the same gen will keep them moving foward

>> No.24013571

Just watch JP, they are perfect for euro times.

>> No.24013609

>>24013309
i mean...
you haven't given up and quit watching yet despite there not being holoEns with good euro hours
so i think you're lying and will be here forever, like everyone else that said they would quit, but came right back the next day

>> No.24013640

>>24013309
We have Kiara and the whole JP Holo cast. If you give up just because of that, it's just that you're not interested in the hobby anymore

>> No.24013691

>>24013571
I will never be Japanese...

>> No.24013723

>>24013691
Neither will I but it doesn't mean we can't speak the language

>> No.24013735

>>24013640
>just watch the annoying woman
No thank you

>> No.24013768

>>24013691
Just do your reps you lazy cunt. Even with a busy lifestyle you can learn the whole language in 6 months

>> No.24013818

>>24013735
>Egg
>Lazy
>Making excuses
Like pottery

>> No.24013863

>>24013768
>you can learn the whole language in 6 months
the whole language?? or just the basics

>> No.24013868

>>24013768
Jargon

>> No.24013946

>>24013768
>Even with a busy lifestyle you can learn the whole language in 6 months
No need to obviously lie.

>> No.24014053

>>24013309
That just means you haven't found your oshi. I changed my shift hours and sleep schedule and ignore family calls/texts for mine.

>> No.24014070

>>24013309
I gave up alredy and swallowed the JP indie pill

>> No.24014119

>>24013560
Just like actual Europe

>> No.24014131

>>24013863
>>24013868
>>24013946
Source: Kiara's RM video on the subject. You can easily find it.
I used a similar method with similar results but it took me more time. 6 month is enough to understand any JP stream.

>> No.24014242

Watch other corpos that don't stream during NA times. I know many people in Kawaii stream during EARLY hours for PST.

>> No.24014344

>>24014131
Paraphrase it.

>> No.24014401

>>24013560
>Russian
lmao no, unless they're really asking for backlash.
>Latin
Why would cover want to hire a chuuba that only speaks a dead tongue?

Also having a Swiss chuuba may help into filling the lingo diversity leaving room for an actual Br*sh or Irish chuuba into the scene.

>> No.24014496

>>24014344
It's about: how she learned japanese on her own in 5 months

>> No.24014494
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24014494

>>24013309
night shift or day trading
pick your poison

>> No.24014514

>>24013640
The entirety of Japan is asleep during Euro prime time. At least try to not shitpost

>> No.24014518

>>24014496
Ok, how did she do it?

>> No.24014555

Not sure hololive will ever hire an English eurasian girl as they're way too slutty.

>> No.24014648

>>24014518
Go find the video, dummy. I gave it to you

>> No.24014677

>>24014131
>says she started at 14-15 years old
it wasn't just 6 months then? i didn't finish the video yet
i mean maybe there were years where she didn't study/do anything related to japanese at all, but i doubt that. Japan/the language is a passion of hers so it wasn't just "5 months"

>> No.24014683

>>24014648
If it's such a great method then you should be able to explain it in 2 sentences.

>> No.24014731

>>24014555
That's why the should

>> No.24014799

>>24013309
eurotards whining again i see. let's hope this time they actually do it instead of hosting a pity party

>> No.24015010
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24015010

>>24013309
Calliope Mori streams at euro hours.

>> No.24015278

>>24014518
Full immersion baby, Mormons can learn language in three months with it even if their approach is pretty extreme

>> No.24015311

>>24015278
How am I supposed to learn from immersion if I can't understand anything?

>> No.24015369

>>24013560
>Europe
>Russia
???

>> No.24015387

>>24015311
Ask newborn of your choice

>> No.24015440

>>24015387
Newborns get every word explained to them.

>> No.24015456

>>24014677
Anon, that's like saying "you've been watching anime with subs for 10 years. So you actually learned it in 12 years." There is a big difference between learning 1 thing or 2 a week and actually starting to study with the mass immersion approach, for exemple.
Once you start getting intense with your studying, making decks, doing your reps, using things like Aniki and stuff like this, that the part that matters. You can do that part in 6 months regardless if you have previous knowledge of the language or not.

>> No.24015560

>>24015311
How do babies learn anon? they don't understand shit (yet), but they are fully immersed
If no one is around or if you don't care that anyone might hear you, babble like a baby and copy the sounds you hear. Don't even think about what it means, just copy it to the best of your ability

>> No.24015602

>>24015560
>How do babies learn anon?
Their parents hover over them constantly and teach them you retard.

>> No.24015877

>>24014731
Have you seen The Ring? English eurasian girls are like that except you lose your virginity (if you're white).

>> No.24015918

They'd probably add more if they actually supported more which they do not.

>> No.24015981

>>24015602
>constantly and teach them
By speaking the language to them you retard
parents don't sit down and explain every little concept and word. they just speak. they might do baby talk, but babies aren't dogs. You don't have to dumb it down for them. Just speak to them normally and naturally and they begin to understand and recognize things subconsciously because they are immersed in the language all day

>> No.24016352

>>24015456
>you've been watching anime with subs for 10 years. So you actually learned it in 12 years
Why doesn't that count as learning? It definitely plays a big part, especially if you later go on to immerse yourself

>> No.24016381

>>24015981
>parents don't sit down and explain every little concept and word.
Yes they do. Then they send their kids to kindergarten where they do even more learning.
>b-baby talk doesn't count
Yes it does. A kid repeating a word they don't understand is completely worthless, they're just making noises, not learning or speaking anything. They have to learn what it means and in almost no cases will you come across that meaning instinctually. A kid will point and ask what the thing they're pointing at is called, and then someone else, most likely their parents or caretakers, will tell them what to call it, and they can still end up mispronouncing that shit for months even with constant exposure to other people repeating said word. The information doesn't pop up on its own. This isn't just "immersion", you're getting everything explained to you every step of the way by other people.

>> No.24016425

>>24016352
Because you aren't actually trying to learn
It will help a bit with recognizing if you provocation is correct tho

>> No.24016465 [DELETED] 

Europeans are subhuman.

>> No.24016674

>>24016352
Pretty much what the other Anon said. You can see it as a 12 years learning curve but it's silly. The point is you can learn japanese in 6 months without those 10 years of watching

>> No.24016855

>>24013309
>tfw my HoloEN oshi streams at the absolute best time for me
I love Fauna so much for that, her schedule couldn't be better for me

>> No.24017017

>>24016425
>>24016674
The time Kiara's RM spent "not actually trying to learn" at 14-15 aided her fluency
I don't care how you try to redefine "learning", she was still learning to speak Japanese back then. All the time she spent on Japanese is what contributed to her present level of fluency. Obviously a focused approach will be more effective, but the time she spent on the language in the past helped her more than you want to admit (for some reason)

>> No.24017808

>>24017017
>helped her more than you want to admit (for some reason)
Anon, you're the one being weird about it. Don't focus on Kiara's RM. The important point is you can learn the language relatively fast and from scratch, with some methods. Other people can and have attest of that. It's not about Kiara

>> No.24018105

>>24016381
>>parents don't sit down and explain every little concept and word.
>Yes they do.
No they don't
>>b-baby talk doesn't count
I didn't say this
>They have to learn what it means and in almost no cases will you come across that meaning instinctually
A parent may use a word the child doesn't understand again and again, and through context the child learns what it means. That's what I mean by "not explaining every little concept and word". Words like "the" and "a" aren't explained, grammar rules are picked up instinctually and aren't explained until much later when you go to school. A lot of learning is done subconsciously and related to the context of the situation, especially now as an adult when you should hopefully know what most things are by now

>> No.24018118

>>24013560
>underlying
Lmao

>> No.24018241

>>24017808
Look, all I'm saying is she didn't become fluent in 6 months. The initial post that kicked this all off said you can "learn the whole language in 6 months", even with a busy lifestyle

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24018566

is around now eurotime? i know an indie polish chuuba who's doing a eurovision 2022 watchalong

>> No.24018907
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24018907

>>24014401
>Latin
>Why would cover want to hire a chuuba that only speaks a dead tongue?
Imagine the boss music karaoke streams.

>> No.24019320

>>24018105
>Words like "the" and "a" aren't explained, grammar rules are picked up instinctually
No, they aren't. Kids just straight up use them wrong until they're taught how to use them properly, usually in school. Some adults still don't get it.

>> No.24021947

would be nice to have at least one or two more

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