/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

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Previous: >>23675351

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

CURRENT GOAL: Survive

>Note that the map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals' lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs, !np2UIvxwi. (backup)
>/pcclg/?: !!S9vZSg00/Br
>/meat/: !!J7IsvbPoQE1

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

FLAG POSTS
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE ARCHIVE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Anchor post for any story/map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>http://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP!

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BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS BOATS AND GEMS

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Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/44do6
https://rentry.org/np9ke
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/kuygt
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

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CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Is fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?
>Music
What kind of musical instruments/music does your nation make/use?

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For some reason when I think of owlbears I think of bears with owl heads.

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People in-universe cataloging chuubas would probably be like this
https://youtu.be/Vki-M7zXe_Q

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Theocratic Confederacy of Kobonesia (TCK) WIP flag, will probably post a short story/summary later this week or something

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>>23838982 (me)
*next week

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>>23838982
Very nice! Speaking of which, we should probably ask map anon to update the map to include /ehe~/ and its neighbours as well. Do tell if you want anything specific!

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>>23838982
got another drawfriend, boys

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>>23838982
NEW BLOOD.
Welcome aboard /ehe~/

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>>23839430
no no no its a commision i cant draw (and write stories for that matter)

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>>23839341
Iirc the latest idea was to take a chunk out of bakatare to put /~ehe/ next to other ID countries.

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>>23839577
Yeah, I suggested that a while ago, both because of its proximity with other tropical ID countries, and because being affected by El Nino justifies having someone to control the weather to avoid the local culture going the way of Moche. I also think the land south of it would work for /mhm/. As for Zeta, I don't actually watch her I thought about giving /wah/'s island to them since /wah/ don't seem interested in this project anyway, but other than that I don't really know enough to make a suggestion.

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If you want to add new countries, you dont have to take half of the old countries' lands
Not every country on our world is the size of Brazil/Russia
Medium to small sized ones are enough

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>>23839542
i would normally be sad but if you have the funds to fuel the generation of art for your general i consider that about as good

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>>23839542
Commissioning for your oshi and this thread is pretty nice too!

>>23840217
Feel free to make your suggestions, we can ask /ehe~/ (or vote on them if they don't have a preference) if there are multiple proposals around.

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>>23839915
i actually think this si a good idea. specifically that /wah/ doesnt need that island and /pyon/ is smaller than it so it can be its own nation. (risuner here)

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>>23840460
Yeah
Hey /ehe/, what irl country size are you looking for?
And what kind of climate/biome

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Alright, I've finished my first bit of narrative prose for this thread. The writing standard for those longer stories is pretty high here, so I hope it's good enough!
https://rentry.org/cultural-exchange
Please let me know about any existing lore contradictions and the like, or questions in general.

>>23837956
Please anchor as a cross-thread story for /morig/ and /risu/.

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>>23840553
honestly the lore proposal im currently writing is not too specific so i have no idea on those stuff; but regions affected by ENSO like that other anon mentioned seems like a good spot

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>>23840734
holy shit. deadbeats can tell a damn good story.
I liked the part where they actually tried to interrogate the poor boy

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>>23841251
He withstood a whole good cop bad cop routine! That is no mean feat. Mea just about failed her intimidation rolls against his willpower.

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Actually did /meat/ ever tell us about their boats. Pic related is a pinisi so does /meat/ boats have any similarity to them? i know what deadbeat boats look like since i did a fuckload of research into that specifically.

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>>23841722
>Pic related is a pinisi
>picrel is confusion risu
sasuga, never change risuner

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>>23841952
............................THIS IS THE PINISI

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>>23841722
/meat/ ships share the junk and lateen sail rigging used by pinisi, but the rest is just confident conjecture on Mea's part, based on the information she has.

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>>23841722
I'm glad you asked! I actually wrote something about it: https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatlore#naval-history-of-meat-and-its-influence-on-contemporary-meat-ship-design
The /meat/ risuner story also touches on a bit of the design from a character's perspective, but it's admittedly fairly limited.
Back when the whole thing was being formulated, I touched upon the idea of /meat/ ships sharing some similarities with /risu/ ships like the pinisi, which both helps justify /meat/heads teaching risuners how to sail (as the similar designs mean many of the knowledge is transferrable with minimal adjustment), as well as potentially serving some kind of deeper interconnected lore, like what if the two designs have a common ancestor? It doesn't have to be, but it's something interesting to think about.
The main difference (apart from some technicalities about sail design) would be that /meat/ ships usually have a midship castle, while pinisi seems to opt for a more conventional "western" aftcastle design for the hull. Armament arrangement (if the risuner ship is armed) would also differ as well. /meat/ ships they see might be bigger, but that's more because Atoyavik is a major port than anything inherent about /meat/ ship designs.

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>>23842254
HOLY SHIT! more things to do on my day off for fun
>read about meat ships
>do risuner landing on meat story
>loads of other stuff
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>23842254
>>23842603
Thanks for laying it out, /meat/head! This was the history I had in mind while writing, but I couldn't find the relevant entry.
Also, to go a bit more into Mea's and Aria's detective work, their thought process is that clocks started uplifting /risu/, there have been events linking /inf/ to /meat/, and Risuners suddenly learned how to sail and build ships that share characteristics with /meat/ ships. Suspicious!

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>>23842720
Yeah, the original rentry has been repurposed for different things (and is now my primary draft storage) after I've incorporated the writing to the main lore archive. In hindsight, it might be bad when people want to doublecheck it in the future, but oh well.
They're not wrong in their thought process, although if they really want to know, they can always just ask us directly... hehe.

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What? you telling me risuners didnt just go from crazy tree lovers to all of a sudden HEY LETS BUILD COOL BOATS!?

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>>23842720
>the shrine interrogated Cahya about /meat/ military presence in /risu/
>they got nothing
>meanwhile in Diana's log the risuners are contemplating the possibility of handing corpses to /meat/

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bump

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>>23845426
Honestly, by now, if wasn't for the whole thing about raid, sacrifices and rapping, Kronies, Meatsheads and Risuners would probably be a militar alliance.

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>>23845558
raping, damn spellchecker, wrong side of fight, the deadbeats are the ones who rap.

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As far as culture goes, /meat/-/vspo/-/hfz/ are the militant triumvirate
Three societies with lifestyles revolving around combat, battles, and mercenary work

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>>23845672
Nah, youre almost right
Deadbeats have a rap(e) tradition
Wherein they have a rap contest but losers get raped

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>>23845762
I'm interested...

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hi /vtwbg/
new here, but im just a sapling making sure no one is chopping down any trees in /uuu/'s territory

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>>23845920
We got a sapling! Welcome and I hope you enjoy your stay!
As for trees, there's a mention of that in /who/'s lore, so you might want to ask them about it when they show up. Ultimately, though, saplings get to decide what happens in /uuu/ in this setting.

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>>23845990
oh, thanks for the heads up, I'll go check their lore

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>Write a thing.
>After writing a thing logic sounds retarded.
>Delete and write again.

Sometimes a direction doesn't go as planned and you have to start over. I have to remember how I got here in the first place. I suppose I can shitpost a meme about it.

>The virgin Grand Directive.
>The chad Homeworld Directive.

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>>23845918
>>23845762
oh my fucking god can someone just write a rape story about rsuners already

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>>23845920
WE GOT A SAPLING, QUICK TIE THEM DOWN SO THEY CAN'T GET AWAY.
Jokes aside, anything that happens to /uuu/ will be done by /uuu/'s decision. So, basically it's up to you what goes on there.

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>>23845762
I mean... sounds like something you would do. No offense intended.

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>>23846119
I could write a rape story, it wouldn't be my first time doing so. The quality I can't guarantee, however.

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>>23845920
HOLY SHIT MAGICAL FOREST FRIENDS!

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>>23845920
Yeah, I was thinking of having /who/ aid /uuu/ in dealing with overforestation to get lumber, but i need /uuu/'s confirmation for it.
Please do read /uuu/'s lore entry and make any decisions you may feel are right, but it would also be great if you confirmed with your thread you're going to be representing them in /vtwbg/

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>>23845920
Welcome! The lore archive is pretty up to date and if you have any questions for the different splits, don't be afraid to ask them! Finally, the Western Holo continent is going to get more lively.

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>>23845920
Just be careful. This place is known for kidnapping drawfriends and any new potential reps for generals. /nasa/ is being careful with logging the taiga. We make sure to replant saplings and clean up enough so fires don't spread. We also picked up a baby Kirin that wandered too far to the north so it wouldn't get crushed by trees. We released him back into the forest. Fortunately mama Kirin was there to pick him up.

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/ehe~/ and /uuu/ on the same day... what a time to be alive.

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please don't get scared away, we don't bite. well, most of us anyway

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risuners learned one thing from morig is that holy fuck other people are way more powerful than them so they need to make compensation. building the inf road probably hurt a bit but it was ultimately for the better. same with /meat/ desu. better to befriend them than to try to fight them especially with no army. poor risuners but at least theyre developing.

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>>23846560
Well, wait a generation of risuner/takeshi genes mixing and your military power will be greater.

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>>23846243
I just stumbled in here today, but I'll be slowly making my way through the lore docs. As for my split, I'll try to bring it up next time Fauna streams and it resurfaces

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>>23845920
SAPLING OFF THE PORT BOW! READY THE HARPOONS! WE'RE NOT LETTING THIS ONE GO!

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>>23846903
Don't worry too much about it. We know it might be foreboding given the amount of stuff we have, but ultimately we're just to have fun, so feel free to take your time and focus on things that you enjoy! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here as well.

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>>23846903
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS HOLY FUCKING SHIT! MAGIC TREE FRIENDS LETS GOOOOOOOOO

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>general misses their oshi after weeks of no new content
>came here to scratch an itch and spend time
Many such cases

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>>23846933
i thought i saw one here >>23297819

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>>23845920
>no one is chopping down any trees in /uuu/'s territory
Ehhh harvesting wood and various foliage produce is inevitable when starting society
BUT we have magic so you can have regenerative trees or practice extreme silviculture by planting 100 saplings for every tree harvested

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>>23846903
Well /nasa/ will bake fresh wildberry pies for saplings when you decide to visit. We even have whipped cream and ice cream to top pies with.

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>>23846903
/who/ and /nasa/ are very active here, you'll have lots of fun with them, they have great ideas.

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>>23846903
Ahhh. Good...
Hides the /meat/ lores

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>>23847054
I mean, assuming their magic works off manipulating the trees (which seems reasonable considering Fauna's theme), they might be able to control their growth in a way to benefit from them without chopping the trees down. Ultimately, it depends on what the saplings what.

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>>23847054
risu chops down trees quite often since their trees gorw super fast. im curious what you will do with /uuu/ magic

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>>23847122
But your lore is great /meat/.

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>>23847168
They squeeb

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>>23847224
Thanks, but we know that it's definitely not for everyone

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>>23837956
Got bored, filled out some prompts. I'm no expert in anything, but I answered stuff for clothing, food, entertainment, religion, and alcohol. Got lazy after that.
https://rentry.org/5muii

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>>23848986
>I can't remember much about imports.
I happen to have kept logs on /meat/'s, which includes some of the stuff we talked about exporting to /rose/: https://rentry.org/deiphagymining#export-list

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>>23848445
Okay, that's true. But you get used to kek.

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I'm having a very hard time coming up with a name for the radical Grand Directive cult. They're an organization who would rather self-destruct the station than adopt a home world directive.

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Hey, boys

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Is there some Risuner around that can tell me if the city of Ceres is named so because of some tie-in with /uuu/ that I haven't read yet, or if its purely coincidental?

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>>23849424
Oh sweet, thanks bud!

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>>23849497
I think it (and Demeter) is named by people from /inf/. Think it's still just coincidental, though.

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>>23849458
They'd probably call themselves "Traditionalists" or something.

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>>23849458
Organization for the mantainance of intergalactic security
O.M.I.S.

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>>23850200
>Culture B arrives, unrelated at all to A at first
>Culture B rediscovers Culture A and found similarities
>Rejuvenates A and assimilates it
Are there any examples of this in irl history?

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>>23849458
S.T.A.B.L.E.
Surveillance (for keeping) Traditional Astronaut Behavior Laws Exact.

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>>23850429
a lot of them, like, almost everywhere in history, the visigoths in italy after the fall of rome for example, the mughals too i guess.

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>>23850429
The closest example (that most people would know of already) is probably the Renaissance, which originated from a surge of interest in what is now called the Classical Period. It's not exactly forgotten, and the Roman Empire still had a lasting impact on European cultures before the Renaissance, but still.

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I'm not sure how i should start writing the lore for my general...

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>>23850757
Just go with aspects that interest you! If you're really drawing a blank, the prompts at >>23838036 might help as well.

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>>23850757
check these prompts >>23838036
try to use as inspiration things that your general does and a general vibe you want to achieve, things like government structure, economic enviroment, cultural rituals can be abstracted away until you feel ready to develop it, so start with a general idea.

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>>23850503
Looks like we got some K.N.D. operatives in the thread.

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>>23850757
Which general. If /uuu/ then Saplings can take inspiration from druid culture.

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>>23850957
I'm an oldfag, yes.

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>>23850962
my general is /vsj+/. I have the basic idea of it being a federal republic but i struggle to write anything decent. I have only made some silly videos and flags.

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in all seriousness as the main contributor to risu welcome both ehe and uuu people. hope you like what we have so far.

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>>23851119
oh man, theres so much lore you can draw from with just the bubi and vei lore videos

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>>23851166
Im one of the saplings. I just finished glazing over your /risu/ lore (theres a lot there), and its really neat. Kinda wish our countries were closer together, but after looking at the map it seems Im gonna have to read up on /who/ and /nasa/ next

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>>23850757
>>23851119
The basics are
>Religion
Your vtuber(s) is/are the deity, and tolerance is based off how your general treat other vtubers from the same or other pantheons
>Traditions/Rites
Based off your general's culture, memes, namefags/posters, and ritualposts
>Diplomacy
Based off your general's opinion of other generals
>History
Based off the creation of your general and everything it had been through. If there's a period your general was not made for a month or more, then it would also get acknowledged

FAQ
1. Can my vtuber be my leader?
The world is based off /vt/. If there are to be actual vtubers directly involved in the government/religion then they must also be on /vt/. Aka being /here/.
2. But what if the spot I got on the map does not match the vtuber's lore/theme etc?
It doesnt matter really. The country is based off your general and its anons, not the vtubers. If your vtuber is jungle themed but your country's climate is desert then you can use creativity to relate them both.

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I got a draft prepared. Just have to figure out the name of the cult/party. The party would be responsible for almost destroying the space economy, genocide, and other inclusive things.

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Here, a 1:1 Earth sized map. You can overlay it with an actual Earth map to get an idea how big your country is

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A question for /uuu/: Will the druids be fine with /nasa/ inviting them to a festival celibrating a holiday once a year for Council's anniversary? /nasa/ has also invited /who/, /infinity/, and /rrat/.

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>>23851540
Threadly reminder that /ggg/ is India.

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>>23849497
OG risuner that can confirm both ceres and demeter and /inf/ cities.

>>23851326
regardless you are high priority on our explore list for a reason. ive literally been waiting for this day for a while now. Risuners love their trees especially ones that grow nuts. See pic related

And now its time to do a bunch of shit especially since im really in the mood for it today.

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>>23851899
It's even in the shape of Kumari Kandam, India's Atlantis

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>Goes to check /meat/ lore for the second diana log
>forgets how fucking detailed they are
I live for this autism

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I JUST THOUGHT OF WHAT THE DIAMONDS ARE GONNA DO FOR RISUNERS!!!! HOLY SHIT IT MAKES SENSE AND IS EXTREMELY GENIUS

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>>23852798
Ohh, I'm excited to find out about it risuner.

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>>23852390
I was thinking about reaching out to some /risu/ reps about establishing a trading agreement
Lore-wise I think it would fit that /uuu/ would really only be comfortable with risuners logging and doing forestry services in our lands since you all have a natural affinity for trees and nature
We also have a somewhat regular need for larger saplings to be chopped down and removed if they succumb to schizo disease from the north or from the randomly occurring genetic disorder we call "chronic degenerative squeeb syndrome"

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>>23853388
distances involved would probably make that quite unfeasible

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>>23853388

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>>23853424
yeah, thats why I was wishing we were closer together
I dont totally trust /who/ within our borders

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>>23853522
>I dont totally trust /who/ within our borders
Neither does the rest of the world after that annexation attempt.

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>>23853522
I can assure you we only wish for cooperation and mutual prosperity

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>>23853424
sadly yes but i will DEFINITELY do a visit over there and while it wouldnt be frequent due to travel time, god dammit your a priority target for a reason and risuners will want to learn about the "other nature species" as much as possible. Fuck im going to be typing all day it seems.
>>23853103
It may shock a lot of people desu. My plans are grand.

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/meat/ anon/s, I need a name for a high ranked militar/diplomat official. Your inspiration is pretty exact, so I don't want to make the same mistake I did naming my risuner.

Also, if you want to give the /meat/ doctor a name, you can too.

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>>23831556
>Is there an in-universe languages archive anywhere?
The Grand Library in /wg/ has a plethora of texts in almost every language imaginable, so I imagine that would be the closest to what you're looking for.
Also, archiving the following for /wg/ >>23837956
/wg/ is home to a wide range of people and cultures, having no official national religion as a result. However, despite its proximity to the niji states, /wg/ is primarily occupied by followers of the holo pantheon. There are a large variety of languages spoken in /wg/ as well. Polyglotism is actually quite common in the country, with many citizens speaking 2-3 languages. As a result of this diversity, /wg/ quickly obtained a reputation as a place with something for everyone. No matter your beliefs or tastes, you are bound to find a community of like-minded individuals somewhere within our borders. The western coastal towns which make up the Google Docks have a fairly diverse population, as do most major cities (with the notable exception of Omelas, which is overwhelmingly /fbk/-oriented). However, as you go further inland it is not uncommon to come across small towns where all the people worship a singular chuuba. These villages can sometimes serve as microcosms of other nations, allowing someone to experience a taste of many different cultures in a fraction of the travel time.

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>>23837956 I remembered
Dianas logs ch 2.

(Before arrival)
Well the time is upon us. We have found the /meat/ mainland and the entire crew is a mix of excited, scared, and even a few are hoping for vengeance for lost family. I gave extremely strict orders that nobody is to attack under any circumstances unless they are attacked first.
Every contingency plan is in effect in case a deal cannot be made. And we damn well know what were gonna do if a single one of us goes missing.
The landing point appears to be a forest. As we closed in it seemed to be a nice looking place quite similar to home. A bit of relief in what would be the most stressful mission any risuner to date would take.

(Arrival at the shores)
The pinisi is parked and we began unloading. So far no sign of any natives. And thank fucking god because even though there are only 35 of us we look like a small raid force. I thought it best to ascend the trees and travel extremely light. 3 groups of 5 will split and explore each with special horns that we would blare in case any danger arrives.
Moving along the trees we realized that the forest is not nearly as big as we thought it was going to be. There was a decently sized flat land in front of us and from very far away we could see what looked like some kind of structure. Seemed like a good place to check out so scout teams moved as close as they could before nightfall took over.

(Night time)
Well fuck. It seems these people may be onto us. Everyone is on extreme high alert. They have whole patrols everywhere but they're not coming to the forest. At least not yet. The kronies did mention some big bay farther to the west that was very active so i'm guessing that they must be lighting up that particular bay. Must be important to them.
Luckily the boats did not seem to notice us. Must be because of the dark so I take it as a sign of good luck and Risu watching over us. There is no way this will last forever. We will be seen at some point so I shall designate a meeting point that gives us a good escape route.

(Day 2)
We evaded any form of contact but I fear with these guys constant ships going in and out that this will not last long. 15 risuners guard the ship and have orders to either flee on boat or in the forest in case of attack. Me and the rest split into 4 teams of 5 and move in. Eventually we confirm that building sighting earlier and decide to move in.
After climbing some steps we come across some sort of shrine to one of the meat goddesses. Most of the crew at this point are overly paranoid and weapons drawn. I give a general statement and order to everyone.
"Listen up Risuners! I understand that you all have lost family and friends in the raids of the past. Believe me I know the feeling, most of you know my grandparents were both taken a few years back. But if you resort to killing them then not only will that make the situation worse and further endanger innocent risuners but get yourselves killed too. Even with our new iron weapons and armor we are no match for warriors of their skill. We are her to put a STOP to all of this once and for all, not to let it continue. We cannot go back in time so instead let us change the future to ensure the survival of /risu/. I know many of you want reparations for people taken and I will definitely negotiate that with these guys. The kronies are our friends and they seem to trust them so why cant we?
"We know that they will come here to this statue and light fires for the bay down there. It will be here that we meet the first of their people. And let me make one thing clear. If ANY OF YOU FUCKS ATTACK UNPROVOKED I WILL KILL YOU MYSELF AND LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH YOUR BODY!"
For a moment it seemed that they were even more scared of me that the meatheads. I did what I had to do. Most of /risu/ are grateful for the iron gifts, the knowledge of strange but wonderful new lands, and of course the assistance in designing and building our first pinisi. These people that I call my crew are for the most part the last of those who feel the desire for revenge. They were the only ones who volunteered for this mission and I knew why really quickly.
And now as I am writing this we wait. Wait for the night crews to come, if that is a regular occurence. The plan is set and now there is absolutely no turning back.

(Day 2 afternoon)
Welp. They found our ship. The risuners guarding it immediately took what they could and fled into the forest. They were so out of breath when they arrived since they brought most of the cargo with them. Strangely the meatheads didnt emerge from the forest. My guess is that they must be going to one of their cities to tell someone that were here. Well at least all of us are here. With extra trading commodities and the safety of the other half of the crew I feel a bit better. They know we are here. Now all there is to do is wait for someone to show up and hope its not an army. Risu please protect us.

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>>23854956
it goes it goes it goes it goes
/meat/'s gonna roll out the red carpet for yall, I can feel it in my balls.

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well it looks like im the only sapling even remotely interested in /vtwbg/

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>>23858224
dont feel bad /rose/ is alone as far as we can tell. there are lots of people who just kind of rep their threads single handedly. I did for a long time for /risu/ before someone else started helping but i still write a good chunk of stuff. Welcome aboard friend.

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>>23858224
usually there's only one, risuners and /meat/headsd our outliers

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>>23858224
If it makes you feel better then /nasa/ almost got /vtwbg/ posts banned from the thread via pretend jannie.

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>>23858224
It's funny how generals react to /vtwbg/. It seems to either be enthused support, or harsh refusal, no in-between. Thread culture is a real thing.

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>>23859010
Our enthusiastic start to fading away in our case... *cries*

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>>23858224
that's blanket permissions to make lore. For a few months i was the only one writing the lore for /who/ until the other 2 hoomans got interested.

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>>23859201
We are brothers in this regard

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>>23859201
thats for sure the silver lining

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>>23859010
/nasa/ was a case of mild interest. Then Sana stopped streaming. And for a few threads /vtwbg/ posts were the only thing posted in /nasa/. I got told to either tag posts so they can be filtered or get reported for off-topic spam. Also the story went retarded with the Grand Directive because of a shitpost that turned into a scandal. And the conclusion was brought to the extreme of locking down the station. Essentially kicking everyone out of the station and shutting down internet.

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>>23858224
I'm the sapling who didn't know what it was. While I think it's cool conceptually, I don't think I'd like to add anything. Maybe lurk for a while.

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>>23859375
I just discovered this place today too, so Im also probably gonna lurk for a bit while I catch up on the existing lore
welcome fellow sapling!

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>>23859459
if you need any help coming up with ideas or understanding other people's world building, just ask. we sometimes have heated discussions, but most people here are pretty nice, and enthusiastic about their lore and world building, so i'm sure they'll help you out if ever you need it. btw, not all of the stuff discussed in these threads have been accurately represented in the lore archive, with some not being shown at all, so it might be a good idea to look at previous threads every now and then. we should really consider making a rentry with links to archives of all the threads at some point, it might make stuff easier. regardless, welcome, and please enjoy your stay! :D

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>>23859459
Fauna's mascot is a kirin right? I'm wondering if your forests would have native small kirins. They'll be rare and hard to spot obviously. I'm asking because /nasa/ has grains for crops close to /uuu/'s border. And we have electric fencing set up. Kirins might come from the south during the summer to forage north. Also we have mammoths and dragon tortoises. And we wonder how those will interact with Kirins.

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>>23861877
Im pretty sure there was something in the archives already about baby kirins

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>>23862021
/nasa/ finds a kirin.
https://youtu.be/wIrnrnkajPM

[Anonymous No.]

Catching up on the lore here, should I be focusing on the domestic lore of /uuu/, or are there big international moments that should be the main focus? Something similar to a BC/AD moment?

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>>23862769
currently agreed upon bc/ad divide is the /jp/-/vt/ separation, big international events have not been discussed as of now.

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>>23862179
better /nasa/ than /who/, theyd prob just label it as army rations

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>>23862769
The BC/AD moment for us is the jp-vt split, where the dates go from "BVT (Before /vt/) to VTE (/vt/ Era). With this system, our "current" year is around 1120 VTE. This was voted in some time ago.

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Risuner phone posting here. When uuu gets set up I'll write up a story about our visit there.

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>>23862892
Cease your propaganda! Althought I wonder if i could write something about them getting hunted down by the bears and the foxdogs. Regardless, I disagree with this simplified view of our culture even if it's somewhat correct.

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>>23863118
look hooman, I only just skimmed through yall's lore today, but as a sapling Im very concerned about the border we share; also dont yall eat the breaddogs from /nasa/ ?

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>>23863326
oof, no one tell him about the annexation arc.

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>>23863326
uhhhhhh hold on i don't have diplomat brain on right now

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>>23863418
i completely forgot about that

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>>23862769
I think, and this is my personal recommendation, you should focus on your own lore until you feel confortable with your identity as a country. As enthusiast as we're with making stories together with you, it's better if you get confortable first, there is no rush. And the more important, have fun!

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>>23863493
There really isn't much to go off from the current /uuu/ lore. Is there really only the origin and environment description?

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>>23863720
Need help?

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>>23863720
You see little to go off of, I see many possibilities to decide which way to go! The world is your oyster. Well, /uuu/ is your oyster.

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>>23863720
The previous sapling that gave off his idea described it as such:
Desorganized communities joint together by a small religious organization that doesn't hold much power.

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>>23863802
I was thinking the /uuu/ would be an isolationist nation, as we are basically just treants are druid shamans we don't have a lot of need for commerce or external resources. Not to say it would be xenophobic cause we have a good relationship with /who/. Sorry to the risuners about their now crippled economic lumber empire. What say you other sapling?

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>>23863326
Bread dogs might look like living animals. However bread dogs are indeed robots. They have a loafy exterior that serves as emergency food. As long as you keep the cybernetic frame you can always bake more bread dogs. Finding a way to bake D0UGH technology outside of /nasa/'s industrial bakery is a challenge in itself. As our current bread dogs are getting stale.

>>23863720
At times like this you can research other cultures similar to yours. /uuu/ seems like a fantasy druid culture. So you can research druids to get an idea.

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>>23864110
Time to make longer-lasting ship-bisket-dogs.

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>>23863720
just bullshit it, that's what i do

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>>23864032
/risu/'s market isn't crippled. They have their niche in East Holo-Continent while /uuu/ has West Holo-Continent. You're on opposite ends of the "world". Also /uuu/'s forest seem to extend beyond your territory borders into north /who/ and southern /nasa/. In /nasa/'s case the forest expands further north into a Taiga with pine trees and snow berries. Mammoths move down south to the Taiga forests and possibly further down into /uuu/'s more delicious forests in winter as well.

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>>23864032
I'm actually the risuner. I'll give ideas in a few hours. At my cousin's house.

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>>23864166
We tried that. Bread's too hard for bread dogs to articulate. Also hard bread doesn't stop bullets as well as bullet absorbing soft D0UGH technology.

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>>23854214
My headcanon is that regardless of origin, most /meat/heads end up taking a cult name (Nahuatl name) when they officially join the cult or get high-ranked enough (although one can argue that the former is usually a prerequisite for the latter). Basically kind of like how Roman cognomen or Chinese courtesy names originally worked. As such, the official will basically be referred to by their cult name instead of their original name (although if they come from a significant enough family, they might not have a non-cult name to begin with).
Anything you can tell us about the official? Things like gender, personal characteristics, and maybe inspirations?

>>23859184
F, hope things get better on your side.

>>23859375
Welcome! Don't feel pressured or deterred by the lore, though. Feel free to just lurk and read what you're interested in, and we're always here (if belated) if you want to ask about things!

>>23863720
Yeah, /uuu/ didn't have a lot of existing lore (although still more than many other countries, who have no lores at all) since until now, we don't really have saplings hanging around. I guess on the other hand, it means that you will have a lot of freedom when writing lore and stories!

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>>23864032
other sapling here
we should be wary of /who/ but they'd be a great commercial partner if we could establish some boundaries
I mentioned it earlier, but I think we could have a good incentive to interact with other countries by selling them:
>lumber from chronic degenerative squeeb syndrome saplings
>schizo infected lumber
>compost
>hallucinogens made from Fauna's ASMR

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>>23864752
Mid-30s, male. Was a translator, then diplomat, then diplomatic/military official. Lets make him come from a big city but not one of the main ones, and he is something akin of a middle class self-made man. He's religious but pragmatic, something needed for diplomacy, and also he is in the headspace that while his religion is the true way he accepts after his numerous travels and relationships that respecting other cultures ways of thinking is a desire of him, as he wants the same for /meat/. He has mixed feeling about randoms raids at this day and age, but not about the mission of sacred war his people have. I'm making this on the go to give you a good image, because his role is not that big. But if we are going to flesh him out I might use him again then if I find him a story kek.

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To the one who said something about risus lumber production we actually have it packed down as the probable best in the world thanks to our lands ability that shit grows at 3x the speed

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Inb4 waiting for meat to respond to what I posted about us landing there.

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>>23865348
/risu/ lumber may not have a market in west Holo-Continent outside of firewood due to the lumber drying out and "dying" before it reaches there. /uuu/ would serve as a lumbering HUB of the west continent while /risu/ serves the east. So both of your forests are cornerstones of Holo-continent construction.

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Post is still a WIP. Waiting for review by other Sanalites.

https://rentry.org/27z3g

No anchor because edit is pending. I do have the draft saved on my PC in case of vandalism.

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>>23865953
>Australia in 2031
Sana help us all, how terrifying... Great stuff anon! Glad to see yet another nefarious cult subversively taking over a country, welcome to the club.

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>>23865469
Aside from some spelling typos, it's a fun read.
Seeing foreigners expecting us to act like Zulu level tribesman is hilarious

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>>23864857
Does lumber from schizo or those suffering from chronic degenerative squeeb syndrome have any special characteristics?

>>23865254
How about Tlapalxochitl? Xochitl means "flower", which has a rather diverse set of meanings in Nahuatl, while tlapal(li) can mean anything from paint (and ink) to red to multi-coloured plants. The ink correlation seems fitting for a translator (and diplomat to a lesser extent), and redness is also used to imply making a valiant effort (from face reddening after exercise), which seems fitting for a self-made man. Of course, multi-coloured plants can also suggest either his pragmatism and acceptance of foreign culture or, according to his ideological opponents, of varied allegiance.

>>23865469
I'm reading on that, just have to reply to others as well. I should be able to drop a reply or something soon enough!

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>>23866352 (Me)
For the name, change "x" to "sh" for an orthography a bit more natural for English readers. The name can be abbreviated into Tlapalshochi or even just Tlapal, but it's probably something reserved for his close friends or relatives.

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What sort of military or armed forces would your thread have? I'm not sure if /hfz/ would have a formal military or anything more than guards.

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>>23864857
For sure we can have all those items you've listed, but I was thinking along the lines that /uuu/ shouldn't engage in commerce because we're basically just plants and we already have everything we need. In my mind, people from other nations come to /uuu/ to trade like cavemen with the druids for these items and for "spiritual enlightenment" (Getting high in the magical woods).

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>>23866637
>we're basically just plants
Doesnt matter, ents/dryads can be badass given the correct application
https://youtu.be/fKHLH_e12o0
https://ageofsigmar.fandom.com/wiki/Dryads

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>>23854956
Nice post as always! I would like to ask if the events in Day 2 means the risuners approached the fortified shrines that they saw earlier, of if it's a different (likely smaller) shrines that happen to be in the way?
Before I write a response post, I should probably ask, well, how does Diana look like? Is Diana a he or a she? Can it be told from a distance anyway? Also, it won't come up for now, but what's your thoughts on eventually meeting an old raider who used to raid /risu/ in their prime? Maybe potentially letting some of them help in their funeral/human sacrifice?

>>23855891
One way or another... Probably will be quite diplomatic, though, since /meat/heads probably see the risuners as guests (even if they look like very confused tourists). The welcoming party would still be armed, but that's more a general /meat/ thing than any perceived needs to fight seriously. I thought about making the welcoming party smaller than the risuner headcount-wise, and maybe having a cart-load of some food and water just in case they need it.

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POV: You burnt a tree in /uuu/

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>>23854214
As for the Doctor, would you say he dislikes the current clergy/clerical culture as a whole? Given that he was implied to be from a relatively remote area of the country that later became a professional, odds are he would have both a commoner (Norse) name and a proper (Nahuatl) name, but which one he goes by probably depends on his view over the clergy as a whole.

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>>23867431
Damn, I can't believe dragoons started a war with /uuu/ from the literal other side of the globe.

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>>23866637
>we're basically just plants
BROTHERS.

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>>23867626
They wanted to attack /who/ but was near the border

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>>23854956
Also forgot to ask if you want to have /meat/ risuners in the welcoming party, or should that be reserved for later?

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>>23866352
I love the name, and it fix perfectly. Now I feel guilty of how little his part is. I will have to more with him in the future.

>>23867604
He is religious, but he's unorthodox because he is against any kind of force cannibalism, but not about the cannibalism on itself. He believes the 'sacrifice' is the act of using the meat without any human limits put to them, including eating it. He believes the church allows what happened to her daughter, even if it is by omission, so he doesn't particularly likes them. I believe he would go for a commoner name.

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>>23867016
I was also thinking about /uuu/ more along the lines of Forest spirits from Warhammer Fantasy, but even in their world, they don't have really any need for money and or commerce and just exist in the woods. I really would like to preserve that feeling of woodland isolation away from society for saplings cause I think it would be fitting how saplings only chill out in /uuu/ and really only have minor interactions with other threads calling their oshi cute.

[Anonymous No.]

Can Saplings eat wildberry pies? I want to bake saplings wildberry pies.

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>>23868448
Saplings often come by /uuu/ whenever their threads have breaks, so being human (or of human origin) would help them in that i think. Still, if you really want to do something like that then maybe you could have it be a skill gained through meditation or something.

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>>23868267
Don't worry about that, making names are fairly easy with Nahuatl (or Norse for that matter) since many of the names are basically combining two elements into one (you might know that pattern from how First Nations names often get translated).
As for the Doctor, what do you think about Amundr? Perhaps kind of an ironic name, given that it means "fatherly protector". Alternatively, Thrudstigr ("strong path") might work too, even if it looks a bit unpronounceable.

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>>23868666
Idea: New saplings are humans who make a vow to isolate themselves in the forest in allegiance to Fauna and as they age aside from becoming peaceful druids, they slowly develop more plant-like qualities and turn into full saplings which are basically fully fledged tree spirits.

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>>23868767
Sorry to say that but the two feel like the name was chosen after the things happened to him, although I like Amundr. Maybe a name a farmer would chose for his son? That works as inspiration or too vague?

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>>23868666
Why not have Saplings be a hybrid of human and plants? Saplings could even be a symbiotic species of humans that also have plants growing inside them. The plants would give Saplings all of the energy they need but cannot be removed from a Sapling's body. Saplings would also need to feed with roots that come outvof their hands and feet. The roots in hands can also serve as a sapling's weapon as they can pierce just about any animal. Roots can also be extended and used as grappling hooks allowing Saplings to easily climb and swing in trees better. Sapling's don't have hair. They have long thin leaves that are similar to hair from their heads. Also when Saplings mate the child at conception is given a seed to germinate along with the pregnancy. Children will need breastmilk until they come of age to properly "eat" using their roots. That said Saplings could still eat with their mouths as their digestive tracks are synched up with the symbiotic plant.

The roots also serve to communicate with other plants and fungi. A sapling can tap their roots into the roots of other plants and fungi and talk to them. They can also talk "through" the root network to other saplings if they're connected.

I've been wanting a symbiote species of humans and plants for a while. This is just an idea. Take it as you will.

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>>23868993
Nah, you have a point. If you like how Amundr sounds, what about Asmundr or Gudmundr? Both are attested Norse names, and both mean something like "divine protection". Another possible (and historical) choice is Agmundr, which means "protection from blade/terror".

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>>23868642
Saplings are stereotypically crybabies who miss Fauna, so sweets make us feel better. So yes.

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>>23868666
>Saplings often come by /uuu/
I meant /who/, sorry about that.

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>>23869225
Agmundr it is then. Thank for the help! Kronii is about to stream, so I will have to keep writing the story tomorrow, but those name as set in stone.

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>>23869222
Adding to this Saplings can be a monosex species. By monosex I mean saplings would be women with no extra bits. The flowers would carry pollen that can fertilize other saplings flowers and egg cells. Saplings can mate with human men, but their children will always be saplings. Just a final thought.

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>>23869222
>>23869573
Well, better to leave it to the /uuu/ representative, althought i don't think it makes much sense anyways.

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>>23867801
PLANT TRIO
>>23867098
I was gonna say the fortified one.
Diana is a she. Early 30's so still decently young but with that kind of face and attitude that just screams authority and discipline. Shes dealt with brats before.
Its also up to you how you want to go about this but if you want to include an old raider thas fine.
>>23868951
What a damn shame you and /rose/ are across the entire planet
>>23868253
I think it would definitely be cool desu. Not to mention it would help with the translating although it would only freak the already freaking out crew even more which would be fucking funny.
>>23869573
So does that mean we cant put our nuts in their mouth?

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>>23869764
Saplings did say they eat sweets. So you can (put) nut inside their mouths I assume.

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>>23869928
I wasnt talking about "those" kinds of nuts

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>>23869764
a young hag who know how to deal with brats... can I switch side?
That works, I guess they probably got spotted by the firekeepers of the shrine, who then went to the city to fetch the welcoming party, which will include a /meat/ risuner either because the spotter recognise them as risuners, or they (gender pending) just happen to be around. They might even meet on the trees while the rest of the party move on the ground.
The old raider idea is a go, then, although maybe later to keep things more spaced out, and it likely helps to only introduce someone like that once the risuners are more at ease.

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With more intelligent plant life on the planet, /rose/ might just get enough motivation to move beyond their border. They already were getting some due to meeting /risu/, but the urge to meet other plants is strong enough to spearhead the beginnings of /rose/ exploration. I'm moving out of isolationism slowly but surely, ohh boy I'M GETTING ENERGETIC.

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>>23870524
LETS FUCKING GO BROTHERS PLANT DOMINATION

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Bones (meat+deadbeat) vs. Plants (uuu, risu and rose) is the new Plant vs Zombies.

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>>23870864
It all makes sense now... Flesh&Bones is not a conspiracy, it's an alliance against the true Menace: Plantoids.

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>>23870864
Finally, my training has come to fruition. VIVA LA /rose/!

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>>23871014
>mfw my shitpost in >>20130029 is actually foreshadowing this

[Anonymous No.]

What are Sapling's opinions about bread dogs?

[Anonymous No.]

Ok before i go to bed. I have an idea. Looking at the map /rose/ is /rose/ but wouldnt /rose/ also have territory in NijiEN? And if its made also in /obsy/ just so you have access to the waters so more accessibility to places.

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OOF BIG SIZE.

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>>23871171
Cute.

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>>23871286
You make a pretty good point my friend and WAIT A SECOND I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING.
If /rose/ becomes /obsy/ that means we get dragons. SPECIFICALLY dragons we would be able to ride. Selen has a license to fly and tames dragons, would make sense if that transfers to something /obsy/ would be able to do.
In other words, if /rose/ truly has become /obsy/... FUCK BOATS WE FLY USING GOD DAMN DRAGONS BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
But it's still up in the air, so we'll see if /rose/ turning into /obsy/ actually becomes a thing.

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>>23871571
And with that ill go to sleep. At the very least you should have some territory in NijiEN. Have fun friends ill see you tomorrow.

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>>23866637
while ideally I agree, I think weve let the world around us grow enough over the last few hundred years that if we dont make some alliances, /uuu/ will be the first on the chopping block for conquest /who/ should scare us

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>>23866352
>schizo lumber
just as strong as our regular stock, but its much slimmer, we trim them early
>CDSS lumber
can be available at any size, and is just as strong, but much less flexible; good with stress forces, but not with shear forces

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>>23870864
desu, /meat/ could take either side, what with comma being a plant technically.

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>>23872059
>/meat/ civil war arc

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>>23871820
/nasa/ has an environmental protection plan. No threats from us.

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>>23872144
noted; will check your lore for this later

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>>23871820
I would think that this world-building is somewhat based on how actual threads interact with each other so I would argue that /who/ is probably one of our greatest friends. Hoomans who want to take breaks from civilization usually take breaks by going into the forests of /uuu/ or become saplings outright.

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>>23871820
Call us if you ever have a need for mercenaries...

>>23872343
It can go either way depending on which approach suits your needs more. Might be a good idea to talk to the hoomans here about it when they're active around as well.

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>>23872092
civil war is stretching it. our mercenaries will fight for both sides, and /meat/ will sit in the background plotting a way to take advantage of everything when all comes to pass. getting involved directly isn't just costly in the short term, but /meat/ would benefit from making more friends, or at least trying to not make any more enemies.

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>>23872343
That and though none of us has actually written a paragraph about it, due to the Republic's reverence for owlsand the natural defense offered by thick vegetations, forests with a high population of them would probably be protected to an extent.

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>>23872343
Im pretty new here and I agree and would like to ally with them, but theres some previously established lore that we have to take into account
the hoomans themselves admit to being... pro-expansion... in nature

[Anonymous No.]

Phone risuner here. It can be said that your underground empire is intact but sunwalkers get fucked over by schizos and gets cleared out by dragoons and penguin people. In exchange the people of /rose/ decide to share their lands in exchange. Just an idea.

[Anonymous No.]

Uh hold on, I'll address some of these statements after the collab.

[Anonymous No.]

well the thread is alive and i am on heroic amounts of adderall from finals
should i have made an entire font instead of finishing school to graduate? probably not
did i still do it? yes
key:
capital H is a ð (voiced th)
capital S and lowercase X is ʃ (sh)
Capital T is a θ (unvoiced th)
Capital O is a ø (eu?)
Capital N is ŋ (ng)
Capital K is kʷ (labialized velar ejective)
Capital L is tɬ (tlh?)
everything else is what it should be, some approximated to the closest it can be in the latin alphabet
https://files.catbox.moe/nkc83j.ttf

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>>23865953
Goddamit, tortoises on the backburner again!

Great write up, a bit rushed maybe, but it's still a WIP as you said. Gimme like 15m to get my ass out of bed to give it a serious read through and see if I can bounce back some ideas.

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>>23872281
We don't have a plan detailed, but we do have a Grand Directive that dictates how we interact with the environment. Essentially we can't strip mine and leave land barren. Same with farming. We have to rotate land so the grass can regrow (which is used for grazing).

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Oh and to the rose anon. Selenposters are known for being bait spamming obnoxious assholes so if you decide to inherit dragon riding know that those dragons are gonna be massive fucking dicks. Might be fun for telling stories kek.

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>>23873031
The stuff I wrote is one paragraph before the last section and the last section. This should be the end of this segment. I'll edit out spelling errors later. Also tell /uuu/ all about our cute tortoises that go "wow".

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>>23872725
Not a bad idea! Makes sense if there's a sort of shadow /rose/ still in charge, since most posters in /obsy/ are just refugees. The incoming dragoons could be exiles and the pentomos could just be looking for a new home, I'm sure I could work with that.
>>23873303
I'm all for more fun story telling, especially if it means I get to write about snarky bastards. I love those kinds of characters.

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>>23873303
>massive fucking dicks
sorry couldn't resist

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>>23873813
Who is this semen demon?

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>>23873813
Combine with sunwalker cunny
Uuuoooooohhhhhh!

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>>23873924
I'm glad you asked: https://twitter.com/onolumi
She's actually streaming right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH1HJYCOSUU

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>>23873813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyLWrKh2fB0

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>>23873979
>Not enough car-burn
>Weird scream
I love her already.

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>>23873979
Jesus, what a dangerously based game pick. She's the /vrt/ oshi right? Aight, time to watch her.

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>>23874053
Accidentally spoiler'd that image. Well, it's a Surprisemi now.

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>>23874068
hey it's the space themed Age of Empires, neat

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>>23873031
Speaking of cold tortoises.

https://youtu.be/mvUb79LujZI

They can have snapping turtle traits since snapping turtles can survive in cold.

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Turtle anon is back BABY!! I swear if that's what I become known for... I got my drink, it's 6.30am and my brain juices are flowing!
As expected, MHW consumed me yesterday, so haven't made any entries yet, but I spent like 3 hours just chilling in bed today thinking about TORTOISES AND SLOTHS TORTOISES AND SLOTHS TORTOISES AND SLOTHS TORTOISES AND SLOTHS TORTO-ahem, forgive me for that, seems a certain squirrel is rubbing off on me.

>>23872702
A bit late, but WELCOME SAPLINGS! Hope you have a great time here, and if you need help developing fauna (not yours, the other one) for /uuu/, please, don't be shy, I am always up for it.

>>23873924
One of the best indies to watch when you oshi ain't streaming. Her design is hella cute as well

>>23874477
Yea, if nothing else, I was planning to borrow some design from snapping turtles, namely their beak and claws. As for the temperature problem, it's already been solved by repurposing a vestigial organ from when the Mossbacks and dragons shared an ancestor, filtering the chuubanite from the vegetation they eat into it and activating a heat reaction, which artificially makes them warm blooded.

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>>23874997
Ohhh sloths eh? The deadsloth lore has an offhand mention of a Holocontinent sloth it descends from, would be fun if another entry also tied into the worldwide Xenarthra family tree...

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>>23874997
Don't forget mossbacks eat meat as well. They'll have the jaws to snap flesh and bone off whatever they can grab. Mossbacks would also be "wise", learning what is a threat and what isn't.

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>>23870864
>>23872059
>Konma vtubium user meets up at the Rosebuta and Kirin table
How do you do, my fellow plant people

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>>23875178
Nope, entirely herbivorous. the beaks are mainly for self defense and rooting out those pesky plants, they did spend a decent few million years in /uuu/ evolving for vegetation that is much tougher. While they could snap off flesh in a fight, they wouldn't consume said flesh. And as for their smarts, they would be about the same as most animals, maybe a bit smarter, but not on the level of, for example, crows or the like.

>>23875172
Yea, I read that entry and I couldn't stop thinking about them my entire shift that night. It's such a unique biome, to be able to induce densification of muscle tissue as well as calcification, which you would think would be a bad thing, but their bodies instead of fighting it and evolving to, for example, filter out chuubanite that causes those mutations out, evolved to just roll with it. And the mention of intraskeletal nervous system, which if i understood correctly, would mean most, if not all, of their nervous system is contain within their bones. And that, my friend, cannot be just a chuubanite mutation, as it would be too extreme, at least in my opinion. If we assume that most other animals have nervous systems like IRL, where it extends throughout all their tissue, it would make this species of sloth, and it's continental cousin, a truly alien form, dating their closest ancestor to basically anything else millions, if not billions of years back.

And if Deadbeats share their nervous system setup, that would also basically make it easier for a sloth to have babies with a deabead than any of the other humanoid species on the planet,looking at you squirrel friends since they would more closely related than us. It is a extremely fascinating proposition, since it would be the same as if a humanoid species evolved from fish that didn't go on land almost 400m years ago. While we would look similar, we would be worlds apart.

And even if they don't, there are still more things to ask about the environment on /morig/. For example, if chuubanite, which is everywhere, really causes calcification of the tissue, and it's not just a mutation exclusive to the sloth unrelated to the biome, it would probably be the only place on this planet where avian life just could not exist, even if it wanted to, since more mass would inhibit their flight. Unless of course *wink wink* if there were species that only migrated through /morig/ on a yearly basis, eventually developing mutations to combat the chuubanite for their brief stay there, and even further down, settling there permanently, being able to retain flight due to filtering chuubanite out of their bodies before it could cause any mutations.

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>>23876447
>Unless of course *wink wink* if there were species that only migrated through /morig/ on a yearly basis, eventually developing mutations to combat the chuubanite for their brief stay there, and even further down, settling there permanently, being able to retain flight due to filtering chuubanite out of their bodies before it could cause any mutations.
if that were the case, then people could learn how they did it, potentially leading to the discovery of a way to get around it entirely. i guess it's an interesting idea, but we might need to regulate how it worked i guess.

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>>23865953
Ok, so I read through it, and here are my thoughts:

1: The conversation seems too short, specially when Alex gives the code to Mac. I know you said it's just one paragraph of the end, but to me it seems really rushed. Fluff is good sometimes. Sorry if this point seems condescending, it's kinda hard to explain certain things with my ESL brain.

2: While Alex would be kinda aware of a sub-faction behind the whole mess, he would have basically no info on them, and what he would have would be 2nd hand account from the /meat/ priestess. I wanted to lean into the "apostle of the ancient ones" in Sana's lore as well as connections with northern schizos. This would be mainly to preserve some mystery and keep it open if a season two ever happens.

3: What Jonathan is doing right now wouldn't be a mutiny, that's what Alex is doing. Jonathan is following the directives of the council, which also punished Alex in the first place. He is kinda their face, and is fighting his own battle behind closed doors to acquire more power in the council for himself so he can eventually govern the station on his own.
Yes, he might have some dictatorship goals, exacerbated by his, involuntary might i add, involvement with the cult trying to pull the strings in the background (the tattoo influencing his emotions and stuff), but in the eyes of the station residents, he is still their leader, and Alex is the weird fucker that put them in their current predicament (even if their dislike of him cooled down over the last couple of weeks, now that they experienced this new life)

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>>23877411
That would come with tech that is centuries in the future. If we are talking now, the only way they could filter chuubanite that was in everything, air, water, plants, was if, through generations, their bodies naturally evolved to filter it out (basically evolving their kidneysto process it). That is, of course, only if their bodies recognised it as toxic to itself and tried to combat it. If there was profits to be had, or the body just couldn't adapt fast enough, it would just become another part of them.

As for regulations, with it right now being a completely biological process, you can't really do it, and I don't really see any drawbacks if technology that could filter it out sprung up in the future.

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>>23876447
Ahh I'm glad you enjoy deadbeat anthropology! Writing that was a ton of fun I drew a lot from the musculoskeletal biomechanics course I took that semester.
Here is the interesting thing: bones are actually already strongly innervated (have nerves going through them)! So my view of it is that Mori chuubanite simply promotes increased innervation within the skeleton and reduces it in muscle and skin tissue, however it cannot be 100% contained inside the bone, since muscles do require nervous signals for activation. This way, when comparing a normal human nervous system and a deadbeat nervous system, you can envision a smooth transition from the one to the next, basically the innervation density increases and decreases depending on whether you're looking at bone or tissue. But it's the same basic building blocks.
However, as you say, this couldn't be done purely through chuubanite mutation, as the nervous system has a slow cellular turnover. So I think this would be a mutation that has to be promoted by chuubanite as early as the embryonic stage of development. An adult would never see as much intra-skeletal innervation as a Deadbeat born and raised on /morig/, no matter how long he stayed on the island.
Basically, if you inseminated two women with a cloned fertilized egg, and one mother had a high chuubanite content, while the second had none at all, the first child would have a high innervated skeleton, while the second would have a normal distribution.
To put it another way, those sorta extranatural changes are not caused by Mori chuubanite changing the genetic code of the human; they're caused by the Mori chuubanite changing how stem cells interpret the genetic code.
From a meta standpoint, it's kinda important that immigrants be able to integrate /morig/ somewhat smoothly (aka have a genetic code close enough for reproduction to be possible), because the general is fiercely pro-unity. This was kinda at odds with the lore describing our appearance, so this is the compromise I came up with.
I love this bird thought. Messenger birds are heavily used by the /morig/ navy, and I was unsure on their source, I was thinking they might be a species from the continent that deadbeats just domesticated, but migratory birds finding a way to excrete excessive amounts of chuubanite (kinda similar to Galapagos' marine iguanas excreting excessive salt) is just *chef's kiss*. I'll have to work that in.
>>23877411
We're probably a fair ways off from this type of bioengineering.

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>>23878055
>>23878071
depending on how it works, and maybe even how chuubanite works, it might not require a very sophisticated process, but you can regulate it by giving it a sophisticated process.

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>>23878291
Yeah, if I end up using this I'll probably do something that requires really convoluted biochemistry, this way you can't do it just by chewing cactus leaves or something. Mori chuubanite tends to migrate towards hard things (like bones), so I'm thinking those birds might crystallize diamond-like kidney stones intentionally where all the chuubanite gets concentrated, and then they have to pass those somehow. You can be damn sure no human being would consider trying to do this intentionally. Well, unless you're a /meat/head that is really into bloody sounding.

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>>23878071
There's the deadbeat i was waiting for! Great stuff, specially since you can give more of an insight into it than myself, taking courses and all. All I have is common knowledge and Google, since I am originally an electrician by trade. Glad you liked the bird idea as well, it was the first thing that popped into my mind when I read the sloth entry, super excited what you do with it!

>>23878291
Well, unless we have a doctor or someone with plenty of knowledge on the matter of chemicals in the body here, we can't really go too sophisticated. We can present some solutions, but at least for my part, they would hardly be anything more than: it's got an organ that helps it overcome any bad things that the chuubanite might give it.

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>>23878579
Hmm, what about instead of kidney stones, their kidneys were evolved enough to process it through just like any other toxin, resulting in a really chuubanite packed urine? That could also create "chuubanite hotspots" where flocks of those birds nested, with all the chuubanite seeping into the surrounding land. Could also have a plant species that preferred high contents of it, evolving fruits and seeds specifically for those birds to cosume and disperse.

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>>23879086
From a biochemical viewpoint, this is the same process; IRL kidney stones are caused by the kidneys doing their job of concentrating minerals out of water a little too well. That plant species idea is great, perhaps that plant could have evolved a chuubanite filtering mechanism in symbiosis with the birds? To be able to produce fruits with reduced Mori chuubanite levels, this way the birds consuming those fruits would put their kidneys under less strain.

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>>23878653
>it's got an organ that helps it overcome any bad things that the chuubanite might give it.
ignoring the number of really smart people here who could probably get really sophisticated into biochemistry, do you really think that lowly of the average anons here? we are already talking about kidney stones, which is more sophisticated than
>organ helps with bad stuff
and we've only just begun thinking about the topic. if we encourage more discussion about it, it doesn't matter if everyone here starts with 0 knowledge about biology in general, we have autists with computers and that's all we need for the meantime.

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Alright, collab's over. Let's see.

We are no warmongers despite what anyone might think, and we have found peaceful solutions to any diplomatic issues between us and any other state or nation. We are not going to manifest destiny any time soon. Currently the Republic has a focus on economic growth and thus we are interested in fostering healthy relationships with all our neighbours. I know the Druids have very little to buy from us apart from some tools they might need, so we only ask them for the free transit of our merchants through, any deals about lumber can be done later once /uuu/ has clearly defined the state of what they are willing to sell away.
Of course, we know that the druids are diplomatically isolated from other nations due to their disorganized nature, thus, they ought to be the ones that initiate any potential initiave they might wish for, still, we ask for potential cooperation and further development of diplomatic relationships between the villages of the Druids and the Republic.
Again, I'll stress that the Republic has not gone to war with any other sovereign state despite the diplomatic issues encountered with others, and we have solved them by diplomacy. This will not be any different.

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>>23880253
>sana in the coal wagon
kek

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>>23879543
More discussion is never a bad thing! unless we're sperging about chuubanite metaphysical mechanics...

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>>23880735
I'm going to murder paragraphsanon one day

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>>23879503
Oh yes yes, and since one of the first things people tell you to do if you get kidney stones is drink water, perhaps the fruit of the plant would just store immense amounts of water with perhaps a chemical that helped dissolve the chuubanite (which could also help it obtain even more by dissolving the chuubanite in it's surrounding ground)

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>>23880851
WARanon is definitely most pleased with you chuubanite enjoyers

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>>23880881
Yeah, a very soft, high hydration fruit would be ideal to make a low-chuubanite fruit, since Mori-chuubanite has an affinity for hard materials.
I'm heading to bed soon, but I'll try to write something about those birds tomorrow.

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>>23880851
why?

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>>23881410
His posts leave no one indifferent. Men fear him, admire him, hate him. Check the archive with the keywords "warp" and "cylinder".

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>>23881525
Gigautism

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>>23837956
IT'S HERE! THE TORTOISES ARE HERE!

https://rentry.org/NorthernMossback

It's been a lot of fun writing this entry, and I definitely found my niche with it. Expect more of this in the coming days/weeks. While they are not the most exciting animal, I wanted to start with this, as it was my first idea for /nasa/ wildlife.

If any of you have any additional bits you would like to see in these entries, or just feedback in general, please don't be shy, I want as much as I can get!

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>>23858224
congratz, you got essentially absolute creative freedom!
>>23862769
Honesty, whichever inspires you most. However, I would personally recommend a focus on domestic lore first, as that would affect how you portray your thread in international moments

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>>23887927
>looks up uses of diamonds in dnd
>remembers that spell components are a thing
>looks up spells that require diamonds as material components

Teleportation circle (5th level)
Resurrection (7th level)
True resurrection (9th level)
Gate (9th level)

A lot more shit about dnd 5e that requires gemstones is available. GEMS ARE MAGIC AND MAGIC IS EVERYTHING

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>trying to design characters for the risuner's visit
>ends up thinking about /meat/ money instead
That said, my thought process on /meat/ currency system:
>Coins are probably made of coloured gold (alloy of gold, silver and/or copper), so ratio adjustment can be used to avoid major discrepancy between coin value and metal value
>Nahuatl is base-20 while Norse is probably base-12
>So something like 1 gold = 20 silver, and 1 silver = 12 copper sounds logical
>mfw I just reinvented the Old Money
I guess at least we know that a system like this would work. I'll see if I can write the response post for Diana soon(TM). Might have to control the risuners' action a bit in the post if that's fine.

>>23887927
Looks good, and I like the idea of using chuubanite to keep them warm while hinting at their ancestry! As for feedback, might be a good idea to mention how the chuubanite in their diet (which seems to come from chuubanite in grass and other plants they eat) gets digested and presumably transported to the heat sacs while the rest of the plant got digested. While not exactly related, the kidney stone talk above might be a good inspiration for the process?

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>>23888508
do what you gotta do friend.

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>>23888508
Oh yea, want to expand on that in the future, but for now, I didn't want the first entry to focus too much on that specific thing. As for the separation process, It's probably gonna be very similar to how human body gets rid of toxins, with the heat sacs basically acting as a Chuubanite specific kidney. Once all the nutrients along with Chuubanite get absorbed into the bloodstream, it passes through the heat sack, where all the chuubanite gets filtered out. As for the excretion of depleted Chuubanite, I was thinking of making it drip from the mouth of the tortoise, slowly, over the years forming a mineral "beard" of sorts, with older members generally having longer beards.

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Does anyone have the most up to date nasfaqg language document and does a language document for /meat/ exist? If yes, I would like to read them.

Offering a prompt to anyone, and a question I'd like to know the answer to:
Does your thread's nation have any naming conventions? What are people named, and why? Do names have meaning? Do people have surnames, and how are those derived?

E.g., In some cultures the surname is derived from a profession, ("Smith", "Kowalski"), some derive surnames from the parents, ("Andersen", "Svensdottir"), and some from nature ("Koivula", "Mori"). Ofc, many cultures use a mixture of these, but some are definitely more common than others.

If you dont have an in-universe lore idea yet or arent interested in creating one, then what real world culture would be the closest equivalent for names?

I would be especially interested to hear the answers to this from /risu/, /meat/, /morig/,and /ggg/, but I'd be happy to also know them for any other thread.

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>>23889076
/meat/'s alphabet is archived, but I don't think we ever work on many of the other stuff, since we don't really have the right kind of autism for that it seems.
The only thing established is that /meat/ has multiple languages:
>Nahuatl is the clerical "proper" language
>Norse was the old language of the natives from before the arrival of the cultists
>Intermingling of the two people results in the birth of a creole with Norse substrate and Nahuatl superstrate
>In the creole, the mundane base words are usually Norse in origin, but affixes tend to be Nahuatl, although religious words tend to still be fully Nahuatl
As for surnames, personally I don't think it would be common in /meat/, since inheritance does not seem a major thing in /meat/ society (it's a theocracy after all, even though the priesthood isn't barred from marriage and reproduction). I imagine it might be similar to Norse in that surnames are basically just parent name+offspring affix, which basically changes every generation. People with unremarkable parentage might drop that part entirely.
That said, I imagine that /meat/ likely has something like Roman Cognomen or Chinese courtesy name, in that people who get inducted into the cult or otherwise made their name get a (Nahuatl) nickname that is used for most non-intimate social interaction.

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>>23877499
So throw what I wrote out the window and start all over again. This time with a word limit of 20,000 words minimum. Guess I better accept this as a part time job.

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>>23893609
No no no, please, I didn't mean it like that. The part you wrote is good, really good, there are just some things I would have established differently. And I know that just makes me sound like a cunt, since I dropped an unfinished piece on you in the first place, but I just wanted to provide some feedback. You know what, I feel like the more I write the worst I sound, so imma just shup up now, and let you do your thing.

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>>23888573
It kind of ended up being much longer than it probably should, but here it goes:

The Risuners were adept tree-climbers, and in a sense, this foreign land was surprisingly accommodating for them. While the weather was somewhat hotter and wetter than in their homeland, the lush green trees provided ample shades for them, and the pleasant scent of wood and flowers might help ease their mind somewhat. Like in their homeland, the canopy was home to much local fauna and flora, although fortunately most of them seemed harmless enough. In particular, dog-sized rodents appeared to inhabit the thicker tree branches when they were not hiding in ground burrows. They proved to be quite docile, and their fur was soft and warm to the touch.

The pleasant interaction with the exotic wildfire would not last, however, as the Risuners' ship proved to be less stealthy than its operators. Upon being discovered, those who stayed behind on the ship quickly made their escape to the dense forest, alongside the majority of their supplies. Soon after the ship was abandoned, it was docked by another, somewhat larger ship. The serpent-like symbols on the reinforced sails showed their origin, soon reaffirmed by the leather-clad and axe-wielding boarders who began inspecting the deserted vessel. They did not appear to be hostile, although that might just be because no one was on board.

As the twilight painted the landscape into a crimson befitting the reputation of this land, the Risuners found a road piercing through the otherwise untouched forest. A path was cleared through the wooded area, its ground elevated and paved with something pastel white - the same construction method used by the /meat/heads who helped with the construction of the road traversing through /risu/. Parallel grooves were carved into the otherwise smooth surface, which combined with the lack of significant traffic meant the road was likely built long ago. with the grooves dug with every passing of carts and wagons.

Indeed, as the Risuners held their breath in the darkening forest, they could hear the sound of claws clopping against the plastered road. It was soon followed by the slow turn of wheels, clanking of pottery and, of course, footsteps. The steps were unhurried and discrete. If they belonged to the army, they were at least not on as high an alert as the Risuners, it seemed. From what some of the more experienced Risuners could tell, their number was smaller than them - perhaps a bit more than a dozen. That said, if they were indeed the fearsome raiders from the stories, they might not need numbers to defeat them should they choose so.

Before they entered the Risuners' view, though, the leading Risuner spotted someone - or something - looking at her and the rest of the crew. Buried inside the canopy on the other side of the road was a pair of eyes, staring at her. Hidden beneath the shadow, she could nonetheless see the faint blue glow emanating from them. Although similar to the nocturnal animals living in their homeland, the size and characteristics of the eyes clearly showed them to be human-like in nature.

How long had it been watching them? Regardless, there was no doubt that they were already discovered. "Show yourself." Diana commanded instinctively in her own language. Just as she was to repeat it in the common language that the locals would understand, though, she was met with a response.

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>>23894026
"Alright!" With that, the humanoid silhouette leapt from the canopy and into the red sunlight. As expected from a /meat/head, the spying one was clad in painted leather armour covering weaved clothes. The tanned face and arms were marked by dark blue tattooed in intricate patterns. What was perhaps not expected, though, was the pair of small rodent ears poking out from the brown hair, as well as the bushy tail waggling from the rear.

The surprise did not end here, either. As the thin tail moved in strange patterns, the body that was falling onto the road suddenly propelled itself towards the Risuners in a seemingly magical manner. The unusual and quick movement meant the Risuners barely have time to dodge before the strange being soared into their canopy. The gloved hands extended upward, catching the branch above Diana, braking the launch before the tattooed one landed next to Diana, the tail turning to balance the weight. There was no doubt that this was another Risuner... one who looked just like another /meat/head.

"I was curious what you would do when they come, but oh well." The /meat/ Risuner looked and sounded rather androgynous, perhaps partly because of some of the tattoos resembling makeup, as well as a seemingly young, almost adolescent appearance. Although seemingly fluent in the language of the Risuners, it had a noticeable accent, with a few foreign words mixed in. "I'm Itstosan. I'm told they found some Risuners in the wood, so I-"

The introduction was interrupted by the sound of the convoy stopping. On the road near the Risuners, a cattle-sized rodent was pulling a wagon behind it. The wooden carriage was loaded with some large, sealed clay pots, as well as a few more /meat/heads taking their rest while other /meat/heads were walking along. In total, they added up to about 20 individuals. Similarly light in armour, they were nonetheless armed with axes of different kinds, and a few shields could be seen stockpiled on the cart. Still, they did not appear to be hostile or even very guarded, with their attention focusing more on Itstosan. The majority of them were male, although the Risuners could still see a few females in the mix.

"I apologise for any inconvenience." One of them was more well-dressed, although also unarmoured, than the others, who appeared to speak for the rest of the group as she addressed the Risuners in the common tongue. "My name is Tecpashochitl. We're here to welcome you as guests to our land. Would you like to join us to your accommodations? We also have food and drinks if any of you need them."

***

Tell me if this writing style works for you. I can switch to something else if you want something else.
Also it has been a long while the last time the thread goes that fast. I guess having newcomers joining us really help with it.

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>>23893899
Its alright. That's the nature of the writing process. I'm used to having to rewrite things over and over again. I just need to manage more time in my day to writing this scene so that it is not rushed. Which means I will have to make sure the scene has a word limit. And I have to involve the meat priestess some how. The only other criticism I would have is the ancient ones would have nothing to do with the Grand Directive as they are Lovecraftian horrors beyond our comprehension. The Grand Directive is a man-made construct based on the Prime Directive in Star Trek. What I want to do is have a cult like political party take the Grand Directive way too far that nearly destroyed the space economy and committed genocide on races that mingled with Sanalites. This party is even known to self-destruct ships and stations stranded on a planet if repairs cannot be done without altering the environment and interacting with people. While Jonathan is on "the right side of history" the people he's currently working for, the council, is a literal death cult. Also I think Alex would have information on these people for a while. The government keeps stripping Alex of more and more power until he's replaced. Once replaced the death cult will vote in one of their members and give them absolute control over the station. Forcing everyone into a military police state where they cannot leave the station nor speak out against the government. Once the dissidents have been silenced and everyone is distracted, kaboom. No more station.

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>>23894026
>>23894096
i love it so far, and the writing style is fine, but what is this "serpent like" symbols? you mean the language itself? maybe i'm forgetting something about our lore, regardless, good job, and i eagerly await the next one.

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>>23894940
the ones on our flag

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>>23894795
>take the Grand Directive way too far that nearly destroyed the space economy and committed genocide on races that mingled with Sanalites
sounds like some ds9 shit is going on here. sounds interesting.
>>23895023
oh, you mean a literal serpent symbol. i always thought the most pressing aspect of our flag was the eyes. nevermind.

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>>23894795 (me)
While Alex may not have a list of members he has seen what the cult has done to other stations. His priority is the survival of the station. The cult's priority is their ideology around the Grand Directive as absolute law. Even the directive itself would have exceptions for when a crew gets stranded for centuries on an alien planet.

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>>23894026
>>23894096
>They were discovered long before they made it to that big statue.
Tbh after I wrote my part I thought that it would have to be nothing more than extreme luck for the risuners to not get spotted. Especially for 2 days. So i can see why you opted for them to be met in the forest rather than my original meeting point. Which raises a question of which one should be considered canon as i can change the log if you want.

The writing style itself is fine for me. I actually like it this way. The only reason I don't write it in a similar manner is because i personally find it easier to write from a single character viewpoint rather than an overview which is why i do my captains logs.

Is this what you guys are going with officially btw? Just want to make sure so I can begin ch 3.

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>>23895602
Wait, crap, I thought they returned to the forest to regroup with the ship risuners after they fled into the forest.
The forest kind of goes better with Itstosan's introduction, but if you prefer them to meet on the altar, that's fine too. Tell me if you have a particular preference, or if I should add more about what they saw on the shrine when they were there.

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>>23895821
Oh. well thats a bit awkward. Yeah my idea was they retreat further inland and abandon the boat altogether for safety in numbers. Personally I think Itstosan would be better as a background character who was watching them the entire time and notified the welcoming party with details of numbers and such. REEEEEEEEEEEEE i feel like a dick asking people to re write stuff though especially since its your land.

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>>23896678
for clarification Itstosan when I said background character I meant background as in for the time until a welcoming party was established. How he introduces himself can be whatever you like.

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>>23896678
It's fine, I can work on that as long as you don't mind waiting a bit while I do the rewriting. I should've asked for clarification beforehand anyway.

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>>23896817
well then yeah. Just to make sure were on the right track.
>Diana shows up
>splits crew in half to explore inland
>finds some shrine
>nopes the fuck out at night when she sees lots of torches near the bay.
>day 2 arrives
>in the afternoon pinisi is finally found
>ship crew abandon ship and run with whatever the fuck they can carry all the way to the shrine
>the entire risuner band just sitting at the altar waiting for those "torch people"

But yeah include Itstosan at any point since I assume he knew what we were doing the whole time. Again feelsbad but I feel like it would actualy make more sense for /meat/ to wait at least a day just to read risuner movement patterns for intel gathering.

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>>23897102
Oh, I kind of assumed that they didn't make landfall until day 2 after they sailed into the bay. I guess it doesn't change much of the writing either way.

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>>23873979
>>23874068
yo she's playing homm3 tomorrow

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So which one of the newbies would like receive some risuner nuts?

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>>23894795
Well then, a few more comments on at least how I wanted to take things:

1. Meat priestess at the current point in time is sleeping on the top bunk of the bed, next to which Alex, Mac and Charlie are talking. Personally I just wanted to introduce her into the chapter by her waking up, scaring the everlasting shit out of Charlie by dropping down on the floor, and just mumbling about food while walking out of the room. Alex would then introduce her, with maybe a snarky remark from Mac ("robosan ain't enough for you, huh?" or something), since the idea of the possible cult would come at the end of the convo, when the duo was already preparing to head out, she would have very little lines, as she would just appear to explain what she knows about the tattoos some of the guards she killed had.

2. As for the cult itself, I wanted to spin them as just crazy people that believe Sana is not to be worshipped as a goddess, as she is only a herald of the true gods. And while there was pretty major war with them in the past (only 14 planets were lost, so not a world war by the book definition) they are pretty diminished in power nowadays, prefering to stay in shadows. What info Alex would have would mainly be from general knowledge, and his father, which was a fleet Principal of an armed fleet that fought for one of the planets.
That being said, I also really like your take on it, with them being a literal death cult. In the end, even if you decide to cut them if you can't fit them in, it's all good. They have been based on a single lore entry for Sana anyway, one that she hasn't really expanded or even aknowledged except in passing in like months. And a pretty big spoiler for season two, if they are included and steal the big rock of Chuubanite: they team up with schizos in trying to summon an ancient one to this plane, but royally fuck up

3. You really shouldn't worry about what will happen once the confrontation between Mac and Jonathan happens at the station. The original plan was for this chapter to end when Mac and Charlie depart back for the station (preferably alone or with a very small group, not with an armed force, as they still need all the people they can get in the hideout to keep a net extended for tech smugglers). So it's perfectly fine if you end the chapter at that part, and then we can brainstorm ideas to quickly push out another chapter. That way people that don't wanna read entire books at once have two smaller chapters to chew through instead of one huge one.

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Also, anyone notice that this turned a lot more into a story writing general than just general worlbuilding one? We have been having a lot of stories lately, and I love it!

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>>23897805
when you have months to write lore it tends to happen. Now that the basic lore for most active threads has been established we decided to actually use it and do something. Which in turn creates more lore kek. Endless cycle.

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>>23897102
I ended up writing more than I originally have, so here's the link: https://rentry.org/k2qfq#the-watcher
Tell me if you need anything written/clarified! I hope you like how the atmosphere turned out

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>>23873014
>>23837956
i don't know if this should be anchored as lore or not but i think it might be useful anchoring it

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>>23899363
>>23837956

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>>23899363
Oh. Shit. That was pretty tense ngl but it's beautiful. I actually liked how you can re use stuff instead of being a derp like me who re writes a lot. Well today I will probably do ITL work for now but ch3 is gonna be a fun one that's for sure. Meatheads really do have some top quality writing skills rivaling even rose anon it's insane.

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>>23887927
Very nice! Tortoises with herding behavior is a neat concept, herbivorous dinosaurs probably did something similar. I'm imagining that their beard helps with dew collection, beards tend to do that. I like the attention given to child mortality, IRL turtles are left to figure this shit out on their own and have like a 0.1% survival rate, so staying in a group and getting a survival rate of 20% is pretty huge.

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>>23889076
/morig/ names are basically a mix of Latin (roman, not mexico) and Japanese influences, or at least that's how I've written it.

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>>23873014
Holy fuck anon, they look so good! That's make designing tattoos a lot faster.

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>>23901034
Yea, while the base animal I took inspiration from was the Galapagos tortoise, It's behaviour was more akin to that of herd mammals, most notably the mating-year-giant-herd thing was a direct yoink from african buffalo herds in rainy season. And I wanted to pay some attention to their early hatchling stage, since as herbivores, they would be a target all the time, specially when they have young. Gonna be completely honest, 20% still seems a bit high to me, but that's probabably only because I haven't put any numbers on their actual mortality I say that they can reach 100+ years, but in reality, that's like a 1/10k specimen, since they do have a few predators that prey on adults even.

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>>23887927
Wdym "Now part of /nasa/ territory?

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>>23901874
Hah, the mating herd imagery made me think of pic related. Those rocks? They're elephant seals.

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>>23901913
Don't worry about it, we didn't steal it, it was unclaimed territory. that's why I said "grassy plains north of /uuu/" and not "grassy plains of the northern /uuu/" which yes, was the original draft, before I decided to word it differently precisely because of a misunderstanding like this xD

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>>23902075
Yep, was one of the images in my head as well besides pic related. Also, I'm a retarded cunt and fucked up the species I was taking inspiration from. It's not african buffalo, it's the wildebeest.

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>>23901913
And to expand a bit further on it, perhaps what is currently /nasa/ was at one point /uuu/, thousands or perhaps even millions of years ago, but the forests just couldn't sustain themselves with the colder climate that came later, receding to it's current size. All that was left were windy plains with only the most tough vegetation.

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>>23901913
Also also, I gave you cool tortoises, what's a few thousand square km of land compared to that, huh? Gotta appear tough in front of the newbie sapling

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Chapter one still isn't finished yet btw. Might have gone a bit overboard with this.
https://rentry.org/who-naval-patrol

Was planning on writing about the army but after some Drachinifel videos and rewatching Master and commander I decided to write a """short""" novel on /who/'s navy. This is really the first time I'm writing a novel so if you find any problems with my writing please let me knowI'm probably too verbose . Also disclaimer, I'm not that knowledgable about age of sail naval combat(or sailing in general for that matter).

I know Minerva is a cliched name for warships but the connection with owls is just too good and obvious to drop.

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>>23837956
Chapter one still isn't finished yet btw. Might have gone a bit overboard with this.
https://rentry.org/who-naval-patrol

Was planning on writing about the army but after some Drachinifel videos and rewatching Master and commander I decided to write a """short""" novel on /who/'s navy. This is really the first time I'm writing a novel so if you find any problems with my writing please let me know. I'm probably too verbose. Also disclaimer, I'm not that knowledgable about age of sail naval combat(or sailing in general for that matter).

I know Minerva is a cliched name for warships but the connection with owls is just too good and obvious to drop.

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Where is /yah/

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>>23902948
here

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>>23902987
thanks fellow dad

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Oh shit, we got another new arrival today? Welcome /yah/, hope you have fun here!

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Oh boy, more new people! Yay!
WELCOME!

These are /vtwbg/ halcyon days.

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>>23903099
>>23903203
/yah/ had already popped up a few times before today.

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>>23903314
Oh, sorry, sometimes is hard to be up to date with everything happening. Still, exciting days of several splits all active at the same time.

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>>23903314
they made a flag like most generals did before going away, and one lore post

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>>23902933
Neat. No comment on my part.

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>>23902933
That was a great read! Thanks for writing it anon. I'm happy to see some naval combat, /morig/ has this nice fleet but I haven't written anything featuring it yet. The Holoeast coast is out of our sphere of influence, so I'm glad someone is keeping the scum down over there. The stages of engagement a pretty detailed.

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>>23902933
Looks good to me! Age of Sail naval combat is always fun, if only I know how to write that. I also really appreciate the details you added into the writing regarding /meat/ stuff as well. it also shows exactly why proper /meat/ naval tactics use the gun ports for oars instead of broadside salvos

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>>23903694
The /meat/heads the Minvera and Doru are fighting are not official /meat/ raiders.
I haven't really engaged with the /meat/heads itt that much but in-universe, because /who/ can't survive without caffeine and /meat/ might like some of the goods we make(like leather and textiles) they probably have some sort of trade deal with /who/. So merchantmen bearing the Republic's flag would have official immunity in the waters /meat/ operate in(depends on whether if /meat/ can even enforce it). An in the story, it's the latter

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>>23903905
Oh, I meant piratey scum in general, not /meat/scum. As we know, the latter has an awfully good PR department. Though if every thread active in /vtwbg/ negociates a raiding immunity from /meat/, they might start being starved for raiding locations... That wouldn't be so bad.

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>>23903905
Yeah, I got that part, which is why I said proper tactics which unsanctioned ones might not have the resource to stick to
/meat/ does export cacao and coffee alike (alongside a bunch of stuff, tell me if you want the link to the list), although back then I didn't mention it to /who/ since Anya-Petra also exports it, and I want others to join in the business fun too. We're open to exporting to /who/ if you want, though!

>>23904032
Oh, being able to operate openly in other countries can be more beneficial to our activities as well... as per usual, cult activity only as influential as the threads OOCly want

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>>23903841
Ah, I forgot about the oars, silly me. The general flow of the engagement would still work but I would have to add it later.
Also slight spoilers I guess:
Here I want to have the raiders be a sort of rouge faction of ex-Leidangr and Ferd. Because /meat/ now has signed a number of treaties with the nations in the South Holo sea, there are fewer and fewer slaves coming in. Because their jobs as raiders are also threatened, some of the more zealous /meat/heads among the more experienced raiders had enough and founded a small pirate state on an island near /meat/. They are very into the cycle of life and death stuff as many of them were semi-professional warriors. They practice a more gruesome form of human sacrifice and the rest of their slaves are sold to the black markets in /hfz/ or made to row oars until they die. Now because it also coincided with a particularly bad Janny raid /meat/ can't guarantee the safety of the western part of the Holo sea, where said rogue faction operates. And this is where the ships in the story comes in.
Does it make sense? Or should I change something?

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>>23903905
Yeah, we get coffee from Anya-Petra, we have no official deals with /meat/, but their merchants could come by to the free port and buy things, althought, due to the nature of their state they'd probably be under vigilance. Also, logistics and weather difference means that /meat/ would probably prefer getting cloth from other places.

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>>23904353
Sounds pretty good to me! I guess the only thing questionable is how do they manage to be even more gruesome than /meat/ proper.

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>>23904510
The impression I got from /meat/'s lore page is that the sacrifices are relatively painless, the goal is to kill the sacrifice. But here they exclusively use torture methods like blood eagles and what not. They don't really care about the ritual meaning of sacrifices anymore. They sacrifice and fight to inflict maximum pain upon anyone they can get their hands on.

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>>23904674
>sacrifices are relatively painless, the goal is to kill the sacrifice.
where does it imply that? the life cycle includes suffering, it's just that some of our slaves or sacrifices are treated better than others.

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>>23904674
>The impression I got from /meat/'s lore page is that the sacrifices are relatively painless
Oh, oh anon. I'm not /meat/, but ya gotta give some things a re-read. Skinning alive with no anesthesia is just another Tuesday for them.

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>>23904674
Hmm... that's odd.
Tenet-wise, the rituals are intended to cause as much suffering before killing them, as well as make use of as much of the body as possible. /meat/ is pretty methodical about it, though, so it knows and uses a lot of medicines to keep the victim conscious as long as possible, which could include some degree of anaesthesia, if only to keep the pain below the threshold of passing out. Jury's still out on whether emotional suffering count.
One thing the priesthood - regardless of stance on reformation - will have beef with (heh) is them being sloppy about it, though. They'll definitely get blasted for spilling the blood and gore everywhere instead of collecting them for more efficient use.
Also, time to make new bread, brb

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>>23903406
does anyone have their flag?
its not on the flag posts

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>>23904353
Not to crash your party here, but they'd probably get crushed easily in the western sea, while more peaceful, there's also a lot less places to hide from getting counter-raided and larger distances involved in the oceans. Less coast to raid too.

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>>23904928
Do you remember the events that where taking place along side it?

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>>23904985
Good.

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>>23905021
I don't think they have a flag, last time /yah/ interacted in the thread was to have them moved to their current spot in the map

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New bread: >>23905111

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>>23904815
>>23904889
It's probably because there isn't much description(or I missed it entirely) on the actual method used so I'm imagining how actual Aztecs do their sacrifices instead. Maybe I need rethink about the more gruesome partIt can just be /meat/'s PR at working /who/ again. I would probably go with the waste of material as one of the reasons they are considered rogue then.

>>23904985
They are meant to be around here. The map doesn't show it but I'm imagining they base in some smaller islands around here. Because /meat/ was recently devastated by Jannies they can't stop some sympathisers from occasionally supplying them.
>they'd probably get crushed easily in the western sea
Exactly what they are being subjected to rn.
>Less coast to raid too.
Here they exclusively target merchants or even some /meat/ settlements, maybe. Their goal is to fight and continue to do so as long as possible, the captives are most likely a bonus to them.