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>>23799482

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>>23799482
i wish that were me.

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>70,355: Haru (Nijisanji)
>40,487: Subaru (Hololive)
>34,231: Ui (Indie)
>24,457: Lui (Hololive)
>24,077: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,413: Towa (Hololive)
>19,863: Saku (Nijisanji)
>17,348: Kiara (Hololive)
>16,615: Botan (Hololive)
>16,405: Miko (Hololive)
>14,587: Korone (Hololive)
>14,856: Towa (Hololive)
>13,243: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,397: Ike (Nijisanji)
>12,283: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>11,888: Nene (Hololive)
>11,427: Mio (Hololive)
>10,954: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,869: Choco (Hololive)
>10,726: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,700: Reid (Neo Porte)
>10,618: Ange (Nijisanji)
>10,568: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,283: Hizuki Yui (Neo Porte)

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>>23810051
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Mio
1x: Kaida, Kanata, Miko, Nijisanji

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
89x: Hololive
28x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
15x: Aqua, Pekora
10x: Kuzuha
7: Subaru
6x: Hal, Miko
4x: Kanata, Suisei
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Marine, Mio, Okayu, Toya
2x: Ange, Flare, Korone, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chloe, Chronoir, Fuwa, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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>>23799482
previous >>23799484

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>>23807467
You want to be surrounded by how many corkscrew penises??

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Damn #s is dead without all the Fujos shitpost now.

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Gura lost

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EN3...onegai.....

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New EN startup is going the idol route.

I am an idol enjoyed but I feel one company already fills that niche.

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>>23813175
No one has learned from VSPO

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>>23813259
underserved niches then idol

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>>23812961
peace?

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>>23813059
What were gura's numbers?

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>>23814148

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>>23814465
>>23814482
3 min, 50% engagement

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>>23814809
>>23814482
>>23814465
6500 in 3 mins. 11k CCV. Normal or nah?

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>>23813175
Does it have any promise?

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nice

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>>23814850
Not as bad as 100% but still very high in comparison with the rest of the streaming field

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>>23814853
Girls have nice voices but startups are a diamond dozen. Idol shit just doesn't work without lives and 3D.

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>>23814809
who won the poll

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>>23814261
As if we needed any more proof that ENs are failure and the branch should be scrapped. The ENs clearly don't care about improving

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>>23814913
what was Mori's last poll result? wasn't it almost 100% in under 5mins?

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>>23814948
>Idol shit just doesn't work without lives and 3D.
And japanese moe.

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top of the hour
kronii finally overtake koyo

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>>23815000
The fashion polls were by far the most egregious, 90%+ engagement in 1 minute polls.

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>>23814954
gogeta 55%

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>>23814979
EN3. Believe in the process. Believe in the gen 3 blessing.

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>>23815054
get fucked, vegitokeks

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>now the samefag schizo will try to seed a timeloop by replying to himself incessantly

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>>23814853
>Release cover while they're streaming
They're retarded

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>>23814954
Gogeta

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>>23815052
I said Mori, anon. Not Kiara/Ina's fashion stream

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>>23815045
Those are good numbers for both of them.

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>>23815093
>>23814853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmYKQu3NbfE
She's pretty good, though

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>>23814853
I'm on basic right now so I can't check but is it that Israeli vtuber corpo? Care to link?

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>>23815278
Nah, it's another new small corpo

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how does Kronii have 11.5k her game streams struggle for half that sometimes if that even. Even for a return i feel like a Zatsu shouldnt be that strong

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>>23815278
it's not.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu2gCn_jiX0yd47eKkPYYbQ/channels

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>>23815244
well at least they're doing the latest fotm

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>>23815350
you think it's a joke when people call them debuff games?

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>>23815350
>Even for a return i feel like a Zatsu shouldnt be that strong
You serious? If anything ENs, as usual, don't get anywhere near as big a buff from stuff like JPs. JP returns are strong as fuck.

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>>23814850
>>23814913
Anons, it was a poll that was specifically talking about an anime, where only people who watched it would even know what the poll is about. Getting 60% engagement in 3 minutes for something like that is absurdly high

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>>23815427
i meant for an EN, i know JP zatsus are strong but EN always felt like their zatsus pull garbage compared to games or only equal

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>>23815350
Her game choices always suck

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>>23815350
kronii streams under 10k are rare.

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>>23814979
They'll be 2yo in a couple of months, anonchama, give myth a break. Once gens 3 and 4 come, it's going to be fun. Also, I think they should stop after gen 4.

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>>23815464
that's only because EN play bad games

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>>23815557
You mean, over 10K, right ? It's her first solo stream over 10K in 16 streams, second if you count the april fool stream as solo

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>>23815557
not really

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>>23815687
god, absolutely awful choice of stream games, just because the games are good doesn't make them fun to watch

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https://youtu.be/Pd9LJUL1g_I
Zeta karaoke. Prediction?

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>>23815567
Anon, he's the same schizo falseflagger replying to himself. He's calling "failure branch" showing a pic with a kusogame 21k CCV. It isn't just good, without taking cull into account (speculate how much she's culled by yourself, but just with the numbers we have) it's literally top 5 tier Vtuber in the world and that's

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>>23815811
7k tops

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>>23815811
12k

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>>23815811
8k

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>>23815811
5k easy

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>>23815811
Luxiem brought this upon themself, let's the 1 month celebration begins.

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>>23815843
just cutoff the second part of your comment and it would have been enough, you guys sound tinfoil hat tier

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>>23815966
Anon, who the fuck cares about that? Stop fighting an "all out war" in your mind

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It's Nodoka's birthday. Will the main channel do anything.

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>>23813259
there's nothing to learn from vspo when they don't even know vspo exists
>>23809891
this isn't totally true. JP at least you have many males who are popular but also a lot of female who are more popular than many males.

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>>23816042
If holo get en 3 that have the same hunger like id 3, nijisis better pray hard.

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>>23816125
>when they don't even know vspo exists
They have a general and this thread mentions them all the time. Nose is a meme in holo threads.

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Kaela 1.5k, vox 2k, let that sink in

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EN3 will debut to big numbers, will do fine for 3 weeks, then will be shit for 5 months, they will be called council again until one or two of them start getting better numbers than half of myth while the rest take forever to incline, which won't stop people from calling them flops
and we will do this with every gen forever, because you're trapped here
forever

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>>23816193
We know about them, but do you think "businessmen" know about them?

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https://youtu.be/0lPfsoTkpsU
偏食 700k get!
Go doggy go!
Only 900k more to reach the ori's numbers ACCELERATE is a mistake
I have a question
Nijiclippers aren't allowed to clip part of the vtuber's cover? In the first place, is it okay for clippers to clip part of the vtuber's cover?
I think the Darling Darling part only audio/clip could do well. Maybe clip it and make it a meme clip or something. And if the clipper want to go the unityfag route, he can make it some sort of a comparison video between Suisei's hi honey and Inui's darling and write it off as tokomachi.

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>>23816287
I don't understand the point of this loop considering the last 2 JP gens weren't exactly pulling bangers either, but eventually Botan got there.

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>>23816193
99% of the west dont know vspo. here isnt a reference to anything.

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For a thread about numbers, I'm surprised there's not much math being discussed here. You know, actual rigorous tools which can model normal streams and help us determine anomalies more formally.

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>>23816287
>one or two of them start getting better numbers than half of myth
that's isn't a high bar, Mumei is already more popular than Kiara, Ame and arguably Ina
We are expecting another Gura and a true musician. If EN3 doesn't have that, I will be disappointed

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>>23816380
yes, that's the point anon, every gen has been like this after sankisei in the case of jp and now it will happen with the gens after myth
because this thread has no concept of time

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>>23816432
it's just drama

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>>23816193
anon as a vspo fan the west only know about hololive, nijisanji and vshojo as brands

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>>23816432
>You know, actual rigorous tools which can model normal streams and help us determine anomalies more formally.
For no monetary compensation? What do you take the good people of this thread for, maidos?

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>>23816287
EN3 could do with somebody who actually knows how to pick up games competently to appease gameplayfags honestly, No holoEN girl fills this. Another serious musician could also be nice if they come out strong with a song or several during the strongest point of debut buff.

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>>23816432
its a horse race moreso than anything else, trying to dissect whatever verification system youtube uses to determine who is and when someone is a viewer which seems to differ between streamers in the same fucking branch also makes trying to find shit impossible.

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>>23816614
If they get somebody like subaru, marine, botan, kaela or kobo would be nice.

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>>23816287
Honestly I think EN3 will be beloved/fresh tasting and Council will remain the red headed step child.

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>>23816347
I can't see why it isn't possible

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>mogged by Petra
we are approaching AIEEEE levels that shouldn't even be possible

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$$$

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>>23816432
There’s too much variance and unknowns in Susan’s bullshit.

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>>23817059
wrong pic ww

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>>23787864
because not only are there not that many of them, hololive doesn't live rent free in vshojofags heads like they do in nijifags. Vshojofags are perfectly happy just watching their talents be funny online, whereas nijifags literally cannot enjoy themselves unless they are beating hololive

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>>23817122
The amount of money he's getting out of that is so embarassing I weep for him. It hurts me when I see how much the state taxes me for. Now imagine him seeing
-bilibili absurd cut
-chink taxes
-riku taxes
-brit taxes

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My daughter is so cute!

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>>23817122
actually insane if real numbers, wonder how much will actually reach him though

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>>23815355
liora is cute
>>23817122
now search dollar to rmb conversion and cry

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>>23817300
numbers?

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>>23817059
>>23817122
Do you think he will reconsider his choices after he gets his first paycheck?

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Are there any other streaming platform other than bili2 in China? I don't really trust bili2 with numbers after the chink out because after it, bili2 responded with a vtuber getting $200k just to tell what cover was missing. Even more so when they could manipulate SCs or put Vox in trending on bili2. Dont kind of operations is not uncommon in China land.

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>>23817198
>bilibili absurd cut
twich has the same cut for subs but you'll get 70% if you're a twitch partner. Is there a Bilo partner?
Hes a millionaire anyway so whatever

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>>23817300
>T1 Faker

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>>23817052
Sorry, nijibros, after the chimpout at Ame's watchalong getting regular numbers, I'll shitpost the shit of your Lord if Kaela gets higher peak with her LOL stream

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>>23817122
vs asoul ace

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>>23817198
don't worry about it anon
he's getting paid well by gchq for this most clever psyop to tank the chinese birthrate

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>>23817403
>you'll get 70% if you're a twitch partner
Not for long lol

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>>23817402
No one fucking cares anyway. Its only Vox' chink fanbase that insists on numberfagging bilbili magic numbers.

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>>23817634
Ace? Then why does she only stream for 3 hours?

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When do we start numberfagging Huya?

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>>23817634
How is Asoul nowadays?

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I'm curious, but are there any agencies that can surpass Cover and Hololive?

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>>23818054
Worse than Hololive, better than Niji and VR

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>>23817402
I don't know why would they do that, Vtubering isn't really a big part of Bili anyway. And as for many modern system, changing stuff manually is hard and may fuck up your ML algorithm so I doubt they would do something like putting Vox in the trending manually

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>>23818086
Nope, when there's like 5-6 top vtubers in Hololive and only Kuzuha and maybe Vox in Nijisanji. If your corpo has 6 Ironmouse tiers, then they maybe able to beat Hololive but it's gonna be hard when Hololive could produce at least 1 star in every gen.

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>>23818086
Not right now, not even Nijisanji and Vshojo. Hololive pretty much synonymous to vtubing.

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>>23818086
OTK, OTV, 100 thieves

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>>23818266
>OTK
>OTV
Kek did they even get 100k ccv this year?

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>>23818249
Man, I still can't believe Hololive popped out Kobo from ID3. Their recruitment board is borderline magical at this point.

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>>23818250
Vshojo's fucking imploding because all these bitches think people want to see them stream with their bfs, and Isegye mog them on the regular so its not like they have Twitch on lockdown either.

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>>23818366
I think Cover's strategy of looking for content creators outside of vtubing is working.

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>>23818305
Didnt asmongold just have 133k a few days ago. Also not vtuber tho so idk what this would even lead to

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>>23818305
come on you don't think Hololive is bigger than this line up right?
Asmongold peaked at 424k this year btw

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>>23798970
kobo pvz vods is trending now in indonesia
that might be the reason why her vod views is pretty good right now

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>>23818498
Sasuga the power of Windah.

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>>23818454
>>23818459
Kek I didn't know asmon was part of a group

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>>23818366
to be fair the ID market may provide good numbers but not much value.
20k ID viewers bring less money than 1k NA viewers

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>>23818498
Fucking how???????? The woman, I just can't believe it. Where did Cover find her?

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>>23818498
Thanks to ID3, we might actually see what is buff content for the real ID market.

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>>23817052
And now Petra is above Selen. Very nice job, she's been inclining a bit for the past couple of months.

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>>23818557

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>>23818557
It's not the money anon, it's the sponsorship and other non-streaming opportunities

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vox b2 debut ccv

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>>23817198
im not surprised if he only get 10% out of those

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>>23818660
Why is it so low?

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>>23818546
he literally founded OTK which was one of the groups that guy mentioned

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>>23818535
that dude has favoritism towards kobo and zeta
he was praising zeta for playing an underrated games, but not reine even tho it was a collab. kek

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>>23818498
Last time I saw her sub she was the same as shu. She is is ahead by 3k.

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>>23818660
>didnt even beat some of Noctyx with bili magic numbers
OH NO NO NO NO

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>>23818711
I always thought he was solo like xqc

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>>23818657
it's the same thing, ID sponsorships aren't worth that much

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>>23818660
Will you fuck off with your magic numbers, b2 does not have ccv

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>>23818498
Fcking blue cunnies so strong

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>>23818785
Why would you care if it's worth that much or not. The main thing is that they have a monopoly now that nijiID is dead.

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>>23818249
uh anon, Vox is behind a ton of girls and boys in Nijisanji like Mito, Toko, Ange, Lize, Fuwa, Kenmochi and many others

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>>23818785
Anon, the market awareness will provide a great base line for Cover to move further in.

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>>23818785
Kobo fags are in denial. They really think kobo shilling anything to an audience who's nostalgic for pirated old games is gonna rake in the cash for sponsors

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>>23818785
I remember seeing this in nijicoep list, you know the sponsorship ain't worth it thingy

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Today's karaoke gave Pomu a slight boost. I was having my doubts about her surpassing Finana before NijiEN's 1 year anniversary but at this point it's a done deal. There's only so much you can do with coomer and gacha boosts after all.

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>>23818846
NijiID is dead from the start anyway.
What I'm saying is that Kobo doesn't bring that much money to Cover compared to even the least popular EN like Sana

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>>23818444
in retrospect, it seems so simple. of course it's easier to turn talented non-streamers into streamers than to just pick up someone who already gets like 800 ccv and hope they blow up under your name somehow.

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>>23818596
>>23817052
anons dont talk much about her here but yea, petra inclined a lot since december. Most of her streams are above 1k, which weren't a thing before, and now she reaches 2k, 3k and above more times than before. I'm happy for her because from what i saw shes a very sweet and talented girl

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Holy fuck, 9k subs in a day.

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>>23818979
(me) forgot the image kek

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Huh, Mori's roommate collabed with Moist today.
Anyone has the ccv for this or where to look beside playboard.

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>>23818596
>>23817052

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>>23819085
She started with 4k and it was slowly going down

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>>23819085
>Moist
Moist critical?

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>>23818727
It's like half a day ago

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>>23818979
>>23819032
>Anya incline
>Petra incline
They are

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>>23819167
Yeah, she's pushing for the collab like since her debut or something that early.

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>>23819167
Yeah, she got her dream Collab.

>>23819173
Shu didn't gain 1k in the same timeframe

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>>23819011
will this spill over onto Zeta, shes at 3k today which i think puts her above her usual grow by a good bit

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>>23819225
>>23819241
Fucking retard didn't realize she's nothing without her character. She wouldn't even reached her dreams if she didn't join Hololive. Ungrateful bitch

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>Kronii 9.4K ccv in Superchat reading
Wtf? I thought sc reading is the time where ccv dropped hard.

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't some ID e-celeb shill Kobo on his stream?

[Anonymous No.]

Im getting kinda sad its weird seeing HoloEN declining maybe im too involved with this hobby. HoloEn was my first time time watching hololive for real not by clip or whatever, I actually catched most their debut streams.
Holomyth just doesn't seem to have it anymore for example Amelia Watson is gaining only 10k per month she used to get that each weeks and sometime more back in december and earlier so it was far from the honeymoon period there is just a big drop out of nowhere, at this rate she'll reach 2million subs in three fucking years, hell even Gura has slowed down when she's this close to reach 4millions subscribers.

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>>23818498
>Those "vod cope" replies from the previous thread
kek the jptards will never stop protecting CCV even if it's proved to be broken.

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>>23819286
Maybe cover didn't let her Collab with the dildo man.

>>23819303
10-11k people where watching her zatsu, maybe they didn't notice the change to SC reading

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>>23819201
Becoming japanese. Good for them.

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>>23817198
He will never see a single penny of that money.

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>>23819286
So? She got a record deal as Mori so who cares.

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>>23819303
i imagine the crash from game -> sc is alot harder than zatsu -> sc

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>>23819032
>>23818979
She inclined alright, her 30 days median used to bounce between 1000 and 1400, both her floor and her ceiling raised to a median between 1200 and 1600.

She keeps banging her head in that 1.6k glass ceiling tho

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>>23819389
PWNBJ

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>>23819303
One thing that’s always stood out for EN in particular is viewer retention for sc readings. Like if Kiara averages 5k for a stream, she’ll end up with 4k watching her SC reading. And we know Gura has a stable 10k watch her SC readings often too.

Yes it goes down over time but people really love listening to them. Even Irys gets really high viewership for her readings also

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>>23819286
Huh? What makes you think she's ungrateful?

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>>23818785
Doesn't really matter. ID has low operating costs and just having control of the market will still bring them opportunities there. Cover also isn't a massive business, so it doesn't take a ton of money for something to be worthwhile for them.

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>>23819383
Pretty sure they didn't, as much as I like Moist man, he's a walking Yab magnet on a lot of his takes on random drama topics around the internet, Cover wouldn't touch that stuff regardless of how much they benefitted from the Collab

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>>23819340
I don't think they're declining just that the market has reached saturation.
Although they'll have to gain some new fans soon since the old subs will stop watching someday. Ame Vod views have been slightly declining over the past 6 months but it's not concerning yet

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>>23818086
Not at the moment. Cover could make a bunch of misplays or a different agency could get really lucky and get some viral attention, but I don't see it happening.

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>>23819446
Cover already got many deals with big ID corporations, even Reine's family invested in them. I would say Yagoo is winning big time.

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>>23819340
it's calling going stable, you guys realise popularity booms don't last forever, it happens in every hobby.

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>>23819471
As long as no other agency can challenge Cover, Hololive ss a whole will be on top.
I doubt Vshojo can organize a live concert.

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>>23819340
Anon sub growths are all down because they’re getting culled regularly. Irys has straight up told people that subs are getting purged every day. I mean you could’ve easily looked at Marine dropping down to 20k subs a month not too long ago and figured out something was wrong on both sides.

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>>23819412
Now, Finana.... anyone that actually watches her can explain why she ones one of the few not to benefit from the Luxiem debut?

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>>23819353
You have to understand, it's all they have left. Let's look at the facts.

>HoloEN
- Mogs JP in music views
- Mogs JP in VOD views
- Highest viewed karaoke ever
- Highest viewed non-graduation stream ever
- Highest viewed vtuber debut ever (VOD, 5 million!)
- Biggest most mainstream sponsorship ever mogging JP (Taco Bell)

>NijiEN
- EN males mog JP males
- Karaoke numbers mog NijiJP karaoke numbers
- Mog NijiJP in superchats
- NijiEN females mog NijiJP females

[Anonymous No.]

Did Luca cancel his stream because the BGM’s artist’s copyright things?

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>>23818660
>b2
>CCV
LMAO, what a newfag

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>>23819597
They have the war funds, if not the interest

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>>23819650
she plays garbage(gacha) games. theyre a solid buff occasionally when u log in to grab the newest hottest characters in rolls but i think she actually plays them semi regularly on stream.

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>>23818559
Ollie find her and talk her into joining Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

kill me

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>>23819653
>Highest viewed non-graduation stream ever
Huh? That used to be a NijiCOEP, but they can actually claim that with Koshien 205k.

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>>23819264
Probably because of the coombait rfa stream yesterday. But Zeta and Kobo (Or Ollie/Kobo/Zeta) offcollab might coming soon, so it could boost her in subs.

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>>23819653
I don't think even Cover brags about CCV. They always go for total views. That was what the speaker deck showed.

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>>23819650
gacha addict. doesn't even do the gacha rolls on stream which would definitely increase her numbers. i think she's self conscious about her gacha spending habits.

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>>23819650
as a nijifag i can say:
>Finana barely did collabs with luxiem
>finana plays a lot of gacha and debuff games
>Finana barely interact with the males compared to other girls
>she got some criticism because of her being late for collabs due to oversleeping and also from her crying over fanart when it was her own fault for doing unarchived karaoke so not giving time for artists

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819726
because literally no official source displays CCV

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819264
>>23819718
I still think Zeta is technically the weakest streamer in ID3, even Kaela has found her niche in MOBA and being ID Koyori.

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>>23819653
All it takes is Gura having a good stream for these to appear, huh

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>>23819653
mog what? anon are you blind? a lot of female and male mog the male and even more female nijien

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>>23819764
Anon while Kaela might have found her niche, it's a 1k ccv niche. Zeta routinely hits 2k most streams

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>>23819659
Even Towa said it's ok but the artist said otherwise and only allowed Towa and Okayu use it only, so.....you know the answer.

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>>23819763
Cover as a company knows what to appeal to advertisers and sponsors. I trust their stuff more than random 4chan.

They really need to release that financial statement soon.

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>>23819780
wtf are you talking about, they are constantly here trying to force holo vs holo, en vs jp, with or without Gura streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819818
Obviously going by the numbers Zeta is the stronger one, but just going by streamer quality, that's my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819764
yeah, for some weird reason zeta is the weakest in ID3 in term of identity as a streamer

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>>23819764
>>23819818
Zeta feels like a jack of all trades, master of none.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819628
you could look at the weekly vod views on Socialblade, they're not growing

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>>23819780
Cause its true

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>>23819851
yeah well maybe specific that when you're discussing in the numbers thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819817
>aruran 171 streams

[Anonymous No.]

/#/ is declining.

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>>23817403
Bilibili has 50% cut
There are also chink taxes, and it takes months for bilibili to release the money to foreigners
I remember some chinks did the math and reached the conclusion that hololive was barely earning money from them

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>>23819780
Yes anon the JP vs EN loops are totally real and us EN fags truly believe Gura's 21k stream is the second coming of jesus. Christ you're a dumb fuck, or maybe just another cog in the falseflag.

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>>23819842
Cover probably earned less than Anykara last year since they wasted that money on a lot of useless vanity shit.

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>>23819860
>>23819864
I'm not sure how to describe it but she still feels like one of those indie streamers with a soft voice, her streams don't feel like a Holo yet

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>>23819653
anyone wants to make a graphic with only the female niji jp and nijien

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>>23819944

>50% cut (after taxes)
>1-3 month wait before able to transfer money off the country

Is it worth it?

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>>23819850
clearly it gets way worse when she has a big stream. well, at least its not fujos spamming the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819712
No, live and suffer. It will cure you from the numberrot

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819963
Maybe she will shine in collabs. We will see later today.

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>>23819650
Now Selen, DAMN! if she didn't benefit a lot from that APEX resurgence in March. Her Solo Diamond and then Solo Master pushed her numbers sky high.

They're not returning to the mean but she squeeze a very good run out of it, March was a very good month for her specially at its tail end

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>>23819995
The wait, if only 3 months, ain't that bad. The question is what's this tax cut?
>>23819997
It gets even worse when she has a bad stream, or a middling stream, really there's nothing Gura can do that won't trigger a shitstorm. There's too many vectors of hate on her, be it nijis, /hlg/ or even just garden variety /vt/ schizos since she's the biggest target there is.

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>>23819944
yes that literally what I said, Twich also has a 50% cut for non twich partners

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819958
It's so sad they're still burning money on the dying ID branch. Nijisanji was so wise to pull out

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819944
I definitely remember hearing the HoloCN having money problems despite their popularity. This being before Coco.

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>>23819867
Vod views per month is on the same level as watch time. They’re metrics, but they’re also meme metrics. They DO hold value in seeing trends but obviously that doesn’t tell the whole story. Take Pekora for example, who had some of her worst months in 2022. Yes, her views did take a dip, but part of that was also because she took way more breaks in recent time.

It’s the same here. You say “well Ame’s reclined and is currently stagnating” and that does hold -some- truth, but it fails to mention that she’s also been taking long ass breaks and comes back 1-2 weeks later. So of course views are going to be down when you’re streaming less! And the same applies to Gura last month; she’s been gone for almost 2 weeks, naturally that’ll have an effect on the statistics.

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>>23819653
I don't need your time loop, I just want to make fun of the jptards for their ignorance about CCV being broken

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>>23820035
she's had 3 collabs in the last week, still feels like one of those indies that HoloID would collab with back in the day.

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>>23819995
If he does like 1-2 streams per month? could be

[Anonymous No.]

The samefagging schizo is back. Do not reply to him

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819818
those 1,5k will watch her streams for grand total of 9 hours in 3 different stream frames at varied timezone no matter what game it is.

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>>23819944

PLUS!

All of Hololive chuuba channel in bilibili is psudo-official channel (official in-name-only)

The only real official Hololive channel is HoloCN and it still under 50% control by Bilibili

Those psudo-official channel also has fangroup translation that Cover need to shared their profit with them too, that's why Cover barely make any profit from it.

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>>23819712
These girls are seriously underperforming, they would get more viewers by being indies. Is it because they are backed by Sony and people are less prone to give a fuck about Sony vtubers?

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>>23820039
selen kind of burned out from apex. shes now playing a lot more overwatch instead. she still play apex but mostly in collabs.

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>>23820102
It seems that the core of your point is
>if Ame streamed regularly she would not have reclined
You are, of course, correct. But she did not stream regularly and so she did recline.

You are providing the context for Ame poor performance but it doesn't change that fact, only explains it.

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>>23820159
no, they are just what regular vtubers look like
Observe
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/52d7e4cc-633d-46f5-818c-bb59102d9549?sort=VIEWER_COUNT_ASC

[Anonymous No.]

stop making excuses for your lazy whores

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>>23820060
Gura deserves the hate though, she is just like Nyanners.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/3hQNkU7jCGw
Is marine tryin to kill her throat again. She doesnt even talk in her last collab at lui channel

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>>23820102
I'm not talking about Ame only, you could check Gura, Ina,... and they're all not growing. I said it's not concerning yet but they'll have to find new fans soon since the old subs who started watching when Myth debuted will leave someday

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>>23820200
NTA, but Myth wouldn't have reclined so much from the vtubing boom if they had all stayed consistent streamers, unfortunately they didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that the Japanese killed around 300,000 chinks during the Nanjing Massacre, explaining their vendetta against them (ITT or not) even after 85 years

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>>23820248
Okay, general /vt/ schizo

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>>23819944
Source for the 50% cut? I also see some people say its 70%

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Kaela 2.1k vox sis not like this beaten by indog chu-ba

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>>23820291
Japan didn't do anything wrong.

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>>23820078
And yet they keep releasing new ID gens, along with Stars. Who clearly aren't bringing as much revenue as they would hope to get.
But then again, Hololive isn't just aiming for the immediate profits, they're setting up for the future kind of earnings and are basically gambling that those investments they've made on ID and Stars will one day pay-off in full.
At the end of the day a company's value isn't measures by the money it generates, but instead it's measured by it's sustainability.

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>>23819864
22:26:12 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: So first one is....Zeta-chan!
22:26:31 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Ollie: Whaaaa, this is kinda amazing, Mio: Zeta....Moon as the total card huh
22:26:41 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Ollie: Another major arcana, Mio: yep!
22:26:59 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: So...>Zeta's Moon card basically....means...how do i say it...
22:27:29 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: This means she is kinda confused on how to reach her goals
22:27:37 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: Very ambiguous, yes
22:28:12 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: her health on physical as well
22:28:20 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: But her mental health is VERY FINE
22:28:39 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: Now as for the work, this is..., O: The same as Reine's total card
22:29:35 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: Since this lands on Work, Seven of Pentacles here basically means she needs to believe in herself more
22:30:00 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] (Zeta work card: She needs to believe in herself that she can do it, Ollie wanting to protecc her)
22:30:21 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: Now, this Luck card....this means she is trouble choosing lmao
22:31:12 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: Now next, the advice card, well...ohh..i see
22:31:35 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: this means, what she thinks is fine...sometimes is not fine lmao
22:31:47 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: Like she thinks its okay, but nope, its not lmao
22:32:03 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: But overall, this is pretty okay really
22:32:09 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] mio: But she is PON so yeah....
22:32:20 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Ollie: Why is Zeta-chan so cute....
22:33:58 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] (I forgot Zeta's luck card: basically she has problem on choosing, she needs to go with the opposite of her intuition)
22:34:37 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Ollie: WHY IS THIS SO FUNNY, Mio: She is PON so yeah

OH NYOOO

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>>23820283
So? Mori still has her Sololive and Universal deal. The rest of Myth still have tons of projects. Unless there are better alternatives, HoloEN stands tall.

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>>23820354
>Stars will one day pay-off in full.
ID may have a chance but I have no hope in the JP Stars

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820327
Do your archive rep. It's 2 or 3 thread before

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>>23820201
ive seen this dozens of times already and every time its always kinda... somber feeling (?) hundreds upon hundreds of people just streaming to nobody or 1-2 people.

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>>23819659
>>23819829
It seems like fujos took some actions after that artist add "!!copyrighted!!" in his list's title.

TL:
Fujos sent those DMs like "if you add copyrighted in your list's title because of Luca please stop it. He is already settle it in private. If you didn't mean it please don't do something that would hurt other people"

I think that is the reason why he take down the "copyrighted" in his title and said sorry for causing misunderstanding.

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>>23820291
The only thing Japan did wrong is not going all the way

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>>23820039
And here is
>Reimu

She had escaped the sub 1k hell only to return to it. What changed?
Was her incline fully anchored on the resurgence of APEX and her participation on VSakyou and the APEX collabs that ensued from it?

Her recent APEX numbers were not good so that avenue of growth is closed. She needs an URGENT course correction because she is heading right back into the iceberg

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>>23820354
I don't know why it's a bad thing to aim for short term goals. Riku is super smart so he understands the market really well. If you keep investing in an industry as volatile as vtubing, it will just be useless in the future.
I don't believe in the long term for vtubing.

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>>23820484
its the first week of the month some variance upward can happen still.

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Kobo on Kaela's stream but doesn't wanna voice chat.

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>>23820201
>found vtuber with cute model
>opens her stream
>'oh so i was watching selen and vox co-'
>*closes stream*

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>>23820354
>investments they've made on ID and Stars will one day pay-off in full.
anon they've already made the money they invested in the stars and ID back, several times even. Neither of those branches are charity cases, even the stars more than made their money back with the concert last year

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>>23820420
They just had a sold out concert last December

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>>23820394
>This means she is kinda confused on how to reach her goals
Zeta play a bunch of random games and nothing really works out for her
>Like she thinks its okay, but nope, its not
Literally yesterday stream, she thought her joycon is fine but it's not

HOLY SHIT this is getting really creepy. Burn the fucking witch

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>>23820510
> I don't believe in the long term for vtubing.
do you have a reason for that? It's just streaming but in a different form

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>>23820420
You say that but if you think about it, people had the same viewpoint on HoloEN, that they were just going to be those random twitch streamer girls who just do lewd things with their bodies to farm views, or just total normies that never touched a game or watched an anime in their life.

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>>23820510
because you end up in situations where you have to can an entire branch because they aren't making money fast enough for your liking

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>>23819864
>>23820394
I feel she's just mostly copying Mumei.. cursed drawing doom etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820394
>>23820554

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>>23820291
I know right, it's quite pity to be honest that jap didn't finished the job properly

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>>23820518
Anon, that's a 30 days rolling median, every point is the median of the 30 days prior.
Whatever variation that would happen is more or less smoothed out by the fact it averages a large number of streams across a large span of time so any movement in this line is a trend and not just a localized issue

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>>23820610
call me retarded then

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>>23820253
Anon this is Miko’s monthly views. Now tell me, does that look like she’s inclining? No. She’s been stable and had practically the same exact months for almost a year now, no matter how much “incline” we visually see. And it’s simple: breaks and time away will always have an effect on the monthly views. Every stream you don’t do is views off the total.

Inclines and declines can easily be fixed. It’s nothing worth doomposting about.

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>>23820564
Why are you describing Luxiem?

[Anonymous No.]

Moist collab numbers?

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>>23818559
outside of her middle school

[Anonymous No.]

Zeta picked a really bad time for her karaoke. There's no way I'm getting up at 6 am for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820520
Yeah, this is the second time Kobo does this

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>>23820327
>70%
That probably includes chink taxes being taken away by bilibili

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>>23820591
eh, i can kinda see but that's more on zeta being a mumei fan than anything else. also playing doom isn't really just a mumei thing lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820645
4k demon

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>>23820629
Its worth doomposting about Ame since her recline is a mentality. She will absolutely not fix that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck can Kaela have 2k viewers for a fucking WILD RIFT stream?

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>>23820564
Not really I was in /hlg/ back in the day and only the JP purists thought so. But more importantly, what people said about holoEN was a prediction, meanwhile the Stars have been unpopular for a long time.
EN stars may shake things up a little bit but I doubt it will affect JP stars numbers significantly

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>>23820721
Kaela has close to 2k on most streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820721
Mobile games are huge in Indo land.

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>>23820454
> settled it in private
He still has the credits to the BGM in his latest minecraft stream yesterday even though Okayu never gave any permission.

Even in his "apology" he said he would just cut out the parts that had the BGM in the still privated vid implying that he still doesn't have permission for its use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820717
Why doesn't she just quit? It might be good for her mental health in the long run. It's not like Hololive can't recover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819712
>>23820013
>>23820159
it's a fucking watchalong
we had similar shitposting about Ame earlier
are you guys alright?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820776
Too bad she played the wrong one should've went with the popular one

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>>23818559
>Yagoo take a walk outside a random street in Indogland
>He heard a cunny voice laughing "Ehe" in the distance.
>Turn his head and see a middle school girl eating street food while rambling about her Imaginary boyfriend Aoyama
>Jackpot

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820823
KEK BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820799
anon even Ame gets 1k+ on her watchalongs, definitely not 20

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820629
The original post is about holoEN and I only talked about them
I'm not doomposting I literally said it's not concerning yet
And if can say it's noises or something but if it happened to the whole branch then I really doubt that
Finally it's weekly not monthly

[Anonymous No.]

okay, what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820857
>even Ame
>comparing Ame with a VERSEN girl
anon....?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820732
Kinda related topic, I did some tourism today checking Uyu's Duolingo stream, he's doing 1h each day apparently and even if the viewers were low (200-300 iirc) but there were a lot of EN comments from probably fujos by the way the posted. JP fujos don't like Holostars? there isn't any fujo market outside of chinkland they can appeal to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820884
she changed back to a normal channel, she used to be an artist channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820821
Mobile Legends has this clause for their streamers that you CANNOT stream other games besides Mobile Legends and they do not give permissions if you have streamed Wild Rift in the past. I am not bullshitting those zhangs are insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820823
As long as he is the head of Cover, they are unstoppable huh? Even Riku, TheGunRun and that fish head guy can't match.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820962
what about The Emperor

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820945
Also chinks don't really want to work with hololive as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820875
>>23820629
here's the graph for Miko, you can see no inclining in the past 5 months

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820996
fuck forgot pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820484
And Pomu. As said prev thread (>>23813074) she's in a hot streak right now and IMO it's all about her excellent choice in what she's streaming. In the past 30 days she streamed

>5x Minecraft, all in or around the 3k range
>3x MGS, in the 3.5k range
>3x Tomodachi life, in the 3k range
>2x unarchived karaoke, in the 7k range
>2x chatting, in the 2k range

Clearly a case of
>if a streamer puts the effort and give the audience what they want their numbers will improve.

I can't really say if there is a causal relationship but her numbers took a serious dive after that fated off collab, but I assume it is more related to the fact her whole first half of April was nothing but collabs.

Happy for her to have found her footing again

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820791
Why won't you just quit your life with your retarded takes?
Are you really telling me that girl who has the second most streaming hours in HoloEN is mentally unwell because of 'le recline' (though her CCV median is pretty much stable and she doesn't give a shit)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820656
10PM JST is Kobo primetime with her Food review. So either Zeta need to do her Karaoke earlier or move it to midnight JST (which is not good). So 8PM JST is understandable. Unless she want to overlap with Kobo, which is not a wise choice

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821036
Why did Socialblade stop registering subs data under 10k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821111
because Miko passed 1m and can only be counted in 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820985
>what about The Emperor
I unironically believe that a merger of VSPO and Neo Porte could challenge the big 2 in Japan if operated similarly to 774, with the different units keeping their own identities

Right now, having the approx. same number of combined streamers, the combined "FPS" company already outranks Nijisanji EN in median of peak CCV for April

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821151
Oh, I didn't know that was the rule

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821155
>111 streamers
the fate of nijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821165
how new are you? Youtube only reports three sig figs of subs to the public ever since the Pewdiepie vs T-series thing where you had hundreds of channels that were just livestreaming the subcount of both channels

[Anonymous No.]

holoes soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819653
>EN males mog JP males
yeah sure lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820705
Ahh, now i know why /morig/ was in flame few hours ago. Wonder why she does it as roommate though as she's already said the collab could be happened as Mori. Charlie is a well spoken guy (yes even with those toilet humor) and can be professional in collab. Maybe she still thinks that the reason schizo get wacky is because she collab with MALES but not because the circumstance surround the collab and who said male is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821056
>though her CCV median is pretty much stable
Her CCV actually improved a lot in a way the median can't capture, because each watchalong and chat stream she does offsets a high attended one and she does lots of those.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821306
petra love

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821259
>Maybe she still thinks that the reason schizo get wacky is because she collab with MALES but not because the circumstance surround the collab and who said male is.
Schizos get wacky because she wants to be her roommate but with Mori avatar instead of being Mori Calliope, the reaper from the underworld.

I don't care one way or the other but most of the flames going in her direction came because of that IMO

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820929
Stars got into the market a year too late and JP fujos already chose nijisanji
StarsEN can succeed if they debut 5 good singers and get some kpop stans from the American and latinamerican market, as well as HK/TW fujos

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821155
NijiJP have so many streamers though they would bring more money easily

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821403
>HK/TW fujos
they already watch NijiEN no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821281
This is why median is also a retarded metric in a lot of cases, Ame does a SC reading and a watchalong almost weekly. So the numbers of her median are way lower than it should be compared to other streamers who don't do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821366
>she wants to be her roommate but with Mori avatar instead of being Mori Calliope, the reaper from the underworld.
That sounds like vshijo. What makes "Mori Calliope" different from her roommate?

[Anonymous No.]

Since graph anon has been posting about the Nijisanji EN girls, a lot of the girls that are inconsistent, like Finana and Reimu or even Rosemi, Petra and Millie seem to not be able to focus on a specific niche and play to their strengths and preferences.
Like for instance, Finana spamming story on gacha games, horror games and collabs, Millie playing a random indie game for a stream and dropping it or Triangle Strategy without being a big JRPG fan, or Reimu throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

What's funny is that Millie said on stream that she felt motivated last week from a convo she was part of where Vox was trying to give advice to Yugo to not play random games if he didn't want to and just focus mostly on music-related streams and play to his strengths, so Millie decided to stop trying to force a lot of her gaming streams and just focus on ASMR/Zatsu/Creative streams instead. It seems that a lot of them have no clue about what to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821366
>>23821499
No, that's what you'd believe if you believe the board but 90% of it is just people wanting to shit on her finding any reason they can to do so. Just look at the 5% thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821499
She doesn't own Mori Calliope and "is supposed to" follow the idol culture,
Even if she has already said a lot of times that she doesn't like unicorns and all that shit I bet that if she an indie she would talk about her relationship

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821535
so basically no stream identity

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821459
It's not a retarded metric, it measures exactly what it says: the point where there is an equal number of streams above it and below it.

It correctly reflects the fact that a significant portion of Ame streams are ones with a low attendance
You can explain that
>it is entirely by her choice, as they're watchalongs and chat streams
but that doesn't change the fact that a significant portion her streams are like that and the median reflects just that

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821449
Because there are no alternatives. They hate China but they have to live together with chink fujos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820929
It's not like they dislike it. Most don't care, don't know about the branch or are already watching Niji. The monopoly NijiJP has with males on JP is quite insane. Just think about it how there's pretty much no big male chuubas on the JP side that are not Niji. Hal, Reid (FPS-focused streamers on general) and Gatchman (Pretty much the only big indie) are more of exceptions, honestly.

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>>23820581
2 years isn't "fast enough"? Anon they gave even more time to those branches from what they performed than I thought. With ID they invested a lot even with the ID management being good. KR really is the only one that was a mess in many senses.

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>>23821593
I just want to know about her kayfabe.

>>23821593
Sounds like cover "made" her have better opsec.

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>>23821499
>What makes "Mori Calliope" different from her roommate?
The box.

>>23821593
>and "is supposed to" follow the idol culture,
No she's not. What she's supposed to do is to keep her personal life away from her streams, what she does when she's off the clock, as said when Rushia fucked up, is entirely her business.

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>>23821542
The reply chain has became convoluted huh? Maybe i should've said she thought her fan wouldn't be happy that she has a one off collab with someone who she's a fan of cuz he's a male. Or...honestly idk anymore, this woman is a complete awkward mess, this time she cater to both schizo and fan, this time she didn't and want to be true to herself, this time to one and not other. Is this what getting bullied and being an alcoholic is like?

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>>23821449
>>23821616
the one thing that can beat Vox is if they can actually get a talented singer with the same speaking voice as Vox, that's what kpop fujos and stans really lust for. They'll play his karaoke/songs on repeat.

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>>23821640
>there's pretty much no big male chuubas on the JP side that are not Niji.
While that's true there is pretty much no big male chuuba in the market period.

Out of the top 100 from that ranking of median of peak CCV there are 72 girls, 27 boys and one corporate channel. There are also only 52 boys over 1k, vs. 161 girls.

It's not easy being a boy vtuber, the fact Nijisanji made it work for them is already remarkable enough.

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>>23821820
>talented singer with the same speaking voice as Vox,
People like that are as many as star in the sky. But not many who is willing to pander as hard as him, especially musician/singer, their ego are so huge that they will never "stoop that low"

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>>23821796
"Mori" should of Collab with moist, everyone already knew he was her oshi.

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>>23821699
Anon, "following the idol culture" literally means keeping her personal life away from her streams. Nobody thinks that "being an idol" means being a pure virgin maiden, but they have to sell the image they do.
If Mori wasn't from Hololive she would talk about her bf on stream 100%.

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>>23821918
>their ego are so huge that they will never "stoop that low"
surely there will be a struggling musician that will stoop that low

[Anonymous No.]

lmao I saw this reply on Kobo's tweet, indo kids are watching her.

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>>23821616
I don't think they care that much. They share the same fanbase with Kpop and C-drama anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23820769
Oh my she streams a lot. Should've start playing buff games to incline, these game choices are trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>23822147
ID gura…

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>>23821945
>Anon, "following the idol culture" literally means keeping her personal life away from her streams
That is not how "idol culture" is used

>Nobody thinks that "being an idol" means being a pure virgin maiden
Yes they do, and that's the exact reason for the use of "unicorn" in your post here: >>23821593

Professional athletes are also expected to keep their private life outside the field of play, that has ZERO to do with what is called "idol culture"

>but they have to sell the image they do
No they don't. They just have to keep their personal life away from their streams.

I'll use the seiyuu example again: for the most part nobody care about what the seiyuu for Megumin (from Konosuba) does with her personal life but the audience surely wouldn't appreciate if, in character, in the context of a convention or a professional setting, the seiyuu started using the anime character to talk about her personal life, even if it was the most innocuous stuff.

Picture this hypothetical scenario: imagine if they made youtube channels for anime characters and Konosuba had one for Megumin.
The audience expects her appearance in the channel to be in character, as Megumin, and the topic of her videos to be YunYun, explosions, he relationship with the MC of the show.

The audience most definitely would not expect her to talk about her trip to Tokyo to buy cough syrup, her meeting with other seiyuus to go to the karaoke and the likes. That's what they would expect to see in the seiyuu personal channel, not on Megumin channel.

In short: keeping personal stuff away from your work channel is *not* idol culture, it's basic professionalism

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>>23822147
reminds me of that demographic Cover released for Gura. 7% of her audience is below the age of 13.

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>>23822147
Normie and even some fan usually say that some Holo has a huge percentage of children in their audience like Gura or Pekora. But Kobo might be the first one to actually tab in the underage market with real big percentage of children in her audience

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>>23821820
Most of the kpop boys they stan for have high pitched voices. Their success comes from being in a group of equally skilled people, so fans stan all of them. The same logic goes for akb48, individually they are mediocre, but when they are put in a group, they shine among otakus. If cover can get 5 decent singers, they can reinvent EN vtubing by debuting them in a band and all they need is releasing a catchy kpop style song with English lyrics

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>>23821918
I think we need musicians not singers people who understand music theory and know how to play an instrument well not just people who can sing well

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>>23822147
I saw a ID streamer with 7mil subs actually shilled HoloID on stream.

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>>23822191
Moona will turn her into a Minecraft autist, only matter of time

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>>23822217
people love when holos talk about events from their personal lives though. the only rule is don't act like a fucking retard.

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>>23822217
In this context "idol culture" does mean keeping your personal life private and keeping a professional image. Have you seen how other EN vtuders act?

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>>23822191
You realize 2k is an absurdly good number for ID, right?
>pic related
Here is the medians for the branch for Novemeber 2021 (iofi not having 5 streams).

Even touching a 2k median was considered a HUGE buff, now they're doing it effortlessly

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>>23822309
Cover is always ahead of the curve so they know who to get. I trust in them more than anything else.

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>>23822331
>don't act like a fucking retard
Impossible

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>>23822360
>2k is an absurdly good number for ID
looking at your pic, I don't think so

[Anonymous No.]

>>23822327
Moona Kronii Kaela Minecraft kino coming soon

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>>23822198
more like ID pekora since most of her audiences are kids, gura audiences are 30 y.o pedophiles

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>>23822367
well they only have been successful with girls so far the lastest Star gen performs horribly

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>>23822415
Anya is a god compared to non-holo indos.

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>>23822439
>30 y.o pedophiles audience
>Makes less SC than Pekora
Sure she does cumkek.

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>>23822331
>people love when holos talk about events from their personal lives though
That's very true, and that is usually reserved for the talking parts of the stream (SC reading, zatsus) when only the people really into the streamer (and not just some tourists) stay back.

And even then the part of their private life they talk is almost without fail about either
>themselves and their own solo "slices of life", past professions, school, sports
>immediate family
>other holos and, rarely, other streamers

Also
> the only rule is don't act like a fucking retard.
you are 100% correct and on point here.

>>23822358
>In this context "idol culture"
Anon, words have meaning and it's not what you make up on the spot. When people talk about "idol culture" they're referring to that AKB48 that had to shave her head to atone for the fact she was seen with a man or things similar to that.

Keeping a professional image has zero the fuck to do with that.
Golden age of Hollywood had that all the way back into the silent era, expecting their talent under contract to conduct their public life while on the clock as if they were representatives of the company
>because they are

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>>23822486
Gura also streams a lot less than Pekora, your point?

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>>23822415
That's because you're dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

Great, another loop, it as if the cover annalistic of audience demographic isn't exist and had been posted here for the 100th times.

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>>23820785
weirdly enough I went through that whole stream and neither Towa nor Okayu's BGM was played.
idk why he put it in the description.

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>>23822537
median at 1.8k means like 30% of their streams are 2k or above
so 2k doesn't seem that special

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>>23822564
>cover annalistic of audience demographic
Where to find that? I missed it

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>Checked last thread
Did you retards actually got baited with a fucking Ame watchalong of all things

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>>23822643
to be fair, most of the reactions were to call it bait

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>>23822564
I wish we would come back to the day without Cover, they brought the worst out of this fanbase.

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>>23822360
where is Anya these days

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>>23822184
They care. There's a huge elephant in the room that they all try to ignore, but when the topic gets brought up, they can't ignore it
C-drama is mostly wuxia shit that has nothing to do with the modern politics

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>>23820454
wow these people are trash
it's his bgm, they should shut the fuck up

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>>23822313
That guy only shill Kobo and Zeta. Well he has kids too so I think it could be that his kid like Kobo.

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>>23822445
I'll believe to my dying breath that holostars would be pulling low to mid tier hololive numbers if kaoru didn't fuck up and Yagoo didn't listen to them and went ahead and debuted starsEN at the height of myths popularity.

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>>23822680
indonesia, probably

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>>23822635
Might have to do archive rep for the subbed version or ask in EU hours, otherwise if you can understand Japanese and Jap's tech autism, go here and try to download it https://media-radar.jp/company1001883.html, give us a copy if you can.

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>>23820201
>playing with chat
>0 viewers

numbers really are the devil

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>>23822680
running as fast as she can because kobo is about to surpass her

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>>23822508
>anyone who doesn't stay around for the boring parts isn't a real fan and just a tourist
not how it works

[Anonymous No.]

>>23822763
>title is "miss me?"
>one viewer

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>>23822508
>Anon, words have meaning and it's not what you make up on the spot.
"Idol culture" is not a word, it's mindset in a subculture. Depending on the group, the rules around it changes to fit

[Anonymous No.]

Official JP channel.

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>>23822721
Nah, since she's become Japanese she's in Japan now.

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>>23822861
Gura.

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>>23820201

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>>23822884
Moona.

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I'm consistently surprised by Shuba's ability to keep numbers for these type of story games.
I don't think I've every seen any other holo with consistent 15k+ numbers for games like FF7, Yakuza etc.

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>>23822899
He's right, live is shit with those numbers

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>>23822824
That's.. not what that anon said. Not all real fan stay for SC and boring part, but only real fan stay for that shit (or schizo, clipper waiting for the new hot)

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>>23822861
Joysound data.

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>>23822927
turns out yakuza was just a buff for shuba, every other holos gets super shit numbers with it

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>>23822508
>when people talk about 'idol culture' they're referring to their ignorant view of a concept foreign to them outside of hit pieces from sensationalist media
Yeah, and the term NZ culture is all about shooting up mosques I bet.
There's more to 'idol culture' than just what you've referred. Using the term as a concept to exclusively refer to that one incident is malicious or ignorant at at best, especially when in a board where the two main players are distinguished by the presence/lack of idol culture surrounding them. Professionalism is part of 'idol culture'

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>>23822970
No, subaru just has that much of an audience, ever since she got shilled by o khan and settled into this weekend slot she's gotten a consisted 15k+ for her streams

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>>23822959
Joysound data is jackshit. The Cover stats are nice though

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1522792118221443072

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>>23822959
Is joysound some kind of karaoke app? The data seem kinda weird huh cuz Rushia has(had) 20% female audience

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>>23823017
Numberfag sasuga id pekora

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>>23822917
thank anon
for Japlet like me, you could you the google translate app to read this

[Anonymous No.]

iirc pic related was what led to Loli-Ui and all the lolilive streams...
when was the last collab between chinman and Ui?

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>>23823017
>numberfagging VODs
how dare she not numberfag CCV

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>>23822927
Literally a matter of having a chuuba that isn't ADHD and is able to appreciate and give genuine reaction to the story the game is trying to tell

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823017
>>23823049
This is a different kind of numberfag that we often see. Like a Child excited for a shiny thing.

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>>23823025
>20% female audience
DYRBI

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>>23823088
peko numberfags watch time, everyone has different goals

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>>23823115
She said herself that her audience (female) had increased quite a bit yes, and the numbers were almost certainly from her own analytics.
Is it possible? Never underestimate the power of the menhera.

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>>23822884
>only 29% of Gura audience is from NA
damn that's a big surprise

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>>23823115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXCvCmffm98
You have to start another loop. Shondo has her as oshi too.

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>>23823191
Where were you guys when this shit was discussed to death.

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>>23823190
The fact that she's menhera is enough to not believe her words

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>>23792336
>>23792336
>>23792336
Did we discuss this already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23821203
110. He's counting the Nijisanji JP channel. Kataribe, Gilzaren, Roa and others dont stream so it's actually about 85 active with about 40 streaming weekly

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>>23823274
Someone posted the tweet, nobody really cares enough tho.

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>>23823259
I was sleeping at that time and never really bother to read the thread. Not sure about the others though

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>>23823025
Keep in mind that Girls are far, far more likely to go to karaoke than guys.

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>>23821640
>>23821846
>While that's true there is pretty much no big male chuuba in the market period.
>Out of the top 100 from that ranking of median of peak CCV there are 72 girls, 27 boys and one corporate channel. There are also only 52 boys over 1k, vs. 161 girls.
you contradicted yourself, even more when there's males who are actually above many girls on different agencies including hololive

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>>23823349
The numbers must be so low for karaoke plays outside of the popular ones like Mori and Suisei. It's hard to tell how relevant those percentages are

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>>23823088
Because ccv is bullshit and can easily modified and you know it faggot.
Vod views are more reliable because susan is killing the views from bots as you see in sara's mc stream.

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>>23822974
Anon, I agree that the culture around idols in Japan has nothing to do with that retarded event.

But when a person is using (like in >>23821593), is talking baout
>"is supposed to" follow the idol culture
and
>"unicorn"
and, in the follow up at >>23821945
>have to sell the image they do [be a pure virgin maiden]

it is obvious that that person "idol culture" in the context of
>have to pretend to be a pure maiden or the audience will force her to atone
sense and not in the
>have to be professional in front of the camera
sense

If I was using "gun culture" and pairing it in sentences with "New Zealand", "white supremacy" and "xenophobia" you would not assume I am talking about gun range culture, proper trigger discipline and what gun culture is really about.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/LSBXkIaehNM
https://youtu.be/wZKAuj3mlVY

EN gold?

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>>23823274
>Aetheria
>Ethyria
why do they keep fucking doing this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823449
worm potential

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>>23823459
the phishing trick where you change one letter in a URL except instead of stealing your credit card information it takes you from 2views to 1views

[Anonymous No.]

How do we got HoloEN to start earning money again?

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>>23823421
If they made and idol group with 5 real mothers, would idol culture destroy them for not being pure virgins?

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>>23823265
Fair enough, but if there's a gen with a high female% it'd be Gen3, given that flare and marine also have sizeable female% audiences iirc from the gen3 live.

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>>23823449
no, even more so because they will end up overlaping each other

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>>23823517
Pekora isn't too bad either, she has eight percent according to her analytics

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823512
By getting better bait posts.

[Anonymous No.]

We should've let Macarthur off the leash back in Korea

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>>23823191
"worldwide audience" isn't a meme

[Anonymous No.]

>4 hours
>2,479 peak
what the fuck???
what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823670
China was asleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823512
Why is he so unknown in NA or EU though? Even Kiara has a much bigger EU base than him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823670
NijiCN

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>>23823670
>Overwatch
>Collabing with a female
>During NA hours
Trifecta debuff for him given his audience is full of female zhangs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823670
The king is naked, more news at 11.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823670
He beat Kaela's 2,364 peak, so he is doing pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823670
It's what happens when NijiCN streams in american time

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823670
they got their fix for the day with the b2 stream. went to bed after their "private time" with milord

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823670
How many times do we have to tell people? NijiCN + fujos and games do not mix.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823512
Obviously by collabing with Milord and hope his fujos are kind enough to throw the girls a bone

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823670
China was asleep. By the way his sponsorship is at a worse time for them (2/3am China time on a Tuesday morning).

[Anonymous No.]

>>23822884
What does the 53% blue thing in "Devices" stand for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823907
Cellphone.

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>>23823907

[Anonymous No.]

>haachama bailed on her twitch debut and didn't let management force her to do it
Based or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823907
What devices people use to watch.
53% Mobile
34% Desktop
7% Tablet
3% Game Console
3% TV

JP and Gura are pretty similar, but Moona has a lot more mobile. The Indos really love their phones.

[Anonymous No.]

why do you guys call them nijicn when only vox has majority china (cn/tw/hk)? most of the others are eiher sea, jp or western

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823984
Luxiemcoep

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823984
Proof?

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>>23820799
>Gura underperforms with a guerrilla 3D stream
>Chumpedos start deflecting
That's the current state

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>>23823421
That's no reason to reject the notion that 'idol culture' in that context, or any context really, doesn't also expect the 'idol' to exhibit some level of professionalism that is expected from their fans, like you did here >>23822217
And the context is relevant as Mori's behavior or preferred behavior is more akin of a traditional western e-celeb or streamers which aren't known to exhibit professionalism, especially towards some parts of her fanbase which can be as considered as unicorn. Of which, expects her to at least maintain a certain image while playing as the character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823963
Kobo is going to surpass Vox soon at this rate. She is getting recognized by a lot of popular e-celebs in ID.

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>>23824022
look at this >>23822884
43% of Guras viewers live in Asia, they won't be able to watch that stream at early morning

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>>23824058
the cute language is universal