Fulgur Regrets the Discord Leak

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https://streamable.com/sfblrx
Do you forgive him?

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>>23790589
no

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>>23790589
>Do you forgive her?
yes not the worse thing ollie have done

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yes

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But he doesn't talk about the discord leak at all

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>>23790589
He doesn't regret it tho, he tells it very clear, what he regrets is being found out, and was scared of the backlash. He doesn't regret what he said (which was barely harmful).

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>>23790589
>no regrets
>no apology
>just bragging about his close relationship with Millie
What part of this clip is suppose to make me forgive this fuckturd.

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>>23790770
It's literally the only yab he's had that makes sense in the timeframe he's talking about

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Where's the actual apology?
Or did it get lost in Mori's inbox again.

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>>23790589
He just wanted Holobronies to forgive him so he could collab with his Oshi, Sana

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>>23790589
>massive massive problem
>nearly graduated
if this is about the leak and he regretted getting caught so much why didn't he just get out in front of it and apologize or clarify. i don't watch him though so i have no idea if this is what he is really talking about

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>>23791069
You must be a woman or delusional. When stuff like this happens, the best way to go about it is lay low and let it die out.

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>>23790589
>no apology

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Fulgur did nothing wrong. I like how he makes Holofags seethe with unfiltered honesty.

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>>23791146
his words not mine, i don't think it was a big deal

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>>23790589
That's interesting, I remember he did his first Legatus reading stream (the novel he writes) right in the morning after the yabe and he sounded completely normal. At the time it made me think that somehow he didn't think it had been that big of a deal.

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>>23790589
>>23790828
>>23791181
https://twitter.com/Fulgur_Ovid/status/1485120701141233666
He had already apologized for that way back, at least lurk moar if you need to shitpost.

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>>23790589
fuuchan did nothing wrong, literally

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>>23791371
Don't open.
It's a towababy.

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>>23791371
>linking back to fbk amogus tweet
heh

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>>23790822
t. doesn't follow NijiEN
Fulgur had yab after yab in the early days because he acted edgy on purpose and people thought he was just an asshole until he broke character after debut. IIRC a lot of CN fans still hate him (which is ironic, because he's probably the only chance the CN fujos have of a NijiEN boy talking about CN BL) for bantering with Vox, because they decided it was "disrespectful toward his senpai".
It's not impossible he meant the discord bullshit, but there's a number of other things he could mean as well.

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>>23790589
Oh so NOW it's real.
Idiots here were convinced it was faked
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA too late

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>>23790589
That gave me a bad impression of him so i avoid him completely now
Not mad at him, I just dislike him

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>>23791565
Doesn't track for a few reasons. Fulgur has always addressed the Chinese antis by name, directly. He mentions Weibo, he mentions Bilibili, and he says clearly to them "if you don't like me, don't watch". He wouldn't tiptoe around the subject if it was about that.He also said that this happened before the Golf With Friends collab, which is riiiight about when the Discord leak dropped. He also acknowledges culpability for this, and Fulgur ironically did nothing wrong by bantering in character with Vox and only literal ESLs (who've since warmed up to him) thought otherwise.

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>>23790589
>Shitbag regrets being caught.

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>>23790589
I love Fuuchan and thank you millie. I mean he did nothing wrong but oh well

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>>23790589
He didn't apologise tho, literally sad he got caught

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>>23791717
It was a full week before the GwF collab, and the Smash collab where he mindbroke Vox and got the yumejos angry was also in between the leak and GwF. I think it's the discord leak too, but timeline wise it could be either of them.

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>>23790589
Yeah, okay. If Millie wants him to succeed then I'll give him a chance.

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>>23791640
And this board also insisted he was right.
Which means now that he admitted he messed up, does that mean you hate him now, Nijikeks?
LMAO

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>>23791834
Collabs are usually planned a week or so in advance, so it makes sense. I also don't recall any of Vox's fans actually getting mad over Smash for it to be an actual yab, only /vt/ got butthurt because he implicitly called him a fag. On the contrary Chinese Kindred began to warm up to Fulgur around that time, when they realized Fulgur was nothing like their literal Otakmori equivalent painted him as.

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Is this why they had sex yesterday?

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>>23791146
Vox did apologize to mori afterward, so why fulgur didnt?

Be a man and own your mistake so holo will let you collab with sana, fulgur

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>>23791717
Eh, true. And watching again it also makes sense Millie would be the one to reach out too in that case, since it was her stream where it happened (even if it was Petra's POV).
I still thing it COULD be something else, but the Discord leak makes enough sense that I don't think people are unreasonable for assuming it was that.
>>23791640
Anyone insisting it was fake after day like, 1 was just shitposting anon. You know people can pretend to believe things on the internet when they actually don't, right?
t. the one who took one of the main screenshots that got passed around
>>23791871
Nah. I think the stuff he said was still right, or at least harmless enough that it shouldn't have mattered. Doesn't change that it caused problems for NijiEN despite that, which I'd feel bad for in his position too.

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>>23790589
This brat needs beeg rocket correction.

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>>23792100
>Vox did apologize to mori afterward
(Based on nothing but /vt/ rrats btw)

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>>23790589
all out war

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>>23790589
No, never trust fatso's

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Finana again escapes the consequences of her actions by hiding between "All Out War" and Vulgur Fulgur.

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>>23792156
Anon, mori un-follow vox and fulgur at twitter after discord leak but later only followed back vox. You are not any wiser than me

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>>23790589
He is clearly talking about the time he attacked china
If you think its about the discord leak (that petra leaked, not him) you dont even watch nijien

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this is some next level shilling. Take your meds nijiEN fags holy shit.

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>>23792410
see
>>23791717

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>>23792355
I know, but you can't jump from that to "Vox apologized to Mori!". It's just as possible she calmed down and actually read the leak herself and just went "Oh, the only one being rude is Fulgur. I'll follow the rest back then".

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I want to like Millie, but she is friends with Enna who is a bitch and people who are friends with bitches are usually also bitches.

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>>23792410
>that petra leaked, not him
Petra leaked it ("It wasn't in my control"), but he was the one that said the stuff ("It was completely my bad")
Also as >>23791717 said, he's usually pretty direct in naming which community is mad at him. It would make sense that the reason he's
being vague here is that he can't actually acknowledge the leak directly.

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>>23792531
>he thinks it’s nijinigs making these threads
cute.

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Fulgur should just address it like a man instead of pussyfooting it.

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>>23792608
Enna is a bitch? Why? I find her really funny in collabs, is she bad in solo streams?

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>>23790589
I've never actively disliked or threw any kind of hate at him from what he said on the leak, as people said it wasn't something legit harmful. But I would be lying if I didn't actively avoid any collabs he appeared from after that.
He doesn't need to address it directly, but him giving acknowledging that it was indeed something that happened and the effects that it had is already something Nijisanji isn't normally known for (which is usually them just ducking their head and wait/hope people forget)
And that's kinda based in it's own way, so props on his side.

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Eat another jar of mayonnaise, fatty.

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>>23792744
He needs to man up and confess to sana. Or atleast apologise for blowing her back out.

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>>23792973
Nah, people call her that just because she can seem really rude when bantering. You should know what I'm talking about since you've seen her in collabs.

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>>23792973
She made fun of unicorns and is just generally very willing to mock people. I don't think it's in a particularly meanspirited way (especially because iirc she's literally gone "You guys know those jokes aren't serious right?" or something to that effect), but some anons are weirdly easily butthurt.
It's funny, I do remember some anons calling her based for saying people are too sensitive over race jokes or something. Guess that becomes being bitchy when it's directed at you instead. At least she's a funny bitch.
Also: Obligatory statement about how much I want to fuck Enna Alouette holy jesus christ she's hot

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>>23792744
>He should openly acknowledge a leaked screenshot for no reason
Retard. Even implicitly discussing it is a lot for a corpo vtuber.

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>>23790589
I don't understand why people stream with shitty mics.

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>>23792574
And now after discord leak, nijien and holoen girls suddenly become really 'cold', no more twitter replies. This is why tribalfags keep winning and rrat 'fulgur did this' kept alive

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I still don't understand whats wrong with the leaked discord conversation and I'm pretty sure there's only one schizo here who thinks it matters.
The transcription on the image has spelling errors and several "??" marks even though the words are clearly legible and identifiable to me, so it's obviously just ESL SEAmonkeys being insane as usual

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>>23793504
>nijien and holoen girls suddenly become really 'cold', no more twitter replies.
Not really? Pomu and Kiara were the only ones who replied to each other regularly, and they haven't stopped at all.

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>>23793377
Enna was my favorite in Ethyria. Too bad once Luxiem came out I took the small corpo unity pill and now I watch companies like Production Kawaii, Tsunderia, Phase Connect.

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>>23793630
>what is wrong with shittalking a rival corpo in a hidden discord where there are no managers
Nothing, it just outs you as the biggest numberfags and tribalniggers in the industry

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>>23790589
I won't forgive you Fungus, or any of the other NijiEN members, until you graduate amd the other members involved are suspended for at least a month.

In other words. Go fuck yourself Fungus.

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>>23793630
Fulgur's comment could be interpreted as "Council did poorly", although I'm pretty sure he just meant "Council did notably worse than Myth" which is objectively true.
Other than that, yeah it's just schizo shit.
>Assuming Pomu was saying she wanted war rather than the (again obviously true) statement that Cover and Anycolor will be competing for the same males now
>Treating Feesh as malicious rather than dumb
>attacking Shu and Millie because ???
>Ignoring context so Vox is "attacking" Hololive instead of saying "I'm glad we have Shu to give us tech support"

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>>23793968
Vox is clearly saying "Thank me"
For someone that calls others schizos you sure do have your own world that you live in

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>>23794049
It's "thank ma". Doesn't even make sense otherwise. Vox isn't a tech guy.

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>>23794198
niji thriving isnt talking about tech
he is numberfagging

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>>23792737
I said nijiENfags. nijiJPfags are fairly suspicious of the EN branch from what I've seen.

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>>23794268
It was explicitly about tech.

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>>23793683
>nothingburger at all, i swear
You know what? I demand pomu kiara collab stream until that i cant be proven wrong. That's it

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>>23794430
Good luck with that. We now know that it isnt the management of either company blocking collabs but the NijiEN livers instead. Shouldn't have joined a tribalnigger branch if you wanted a collab Pomu.

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>>23790589
>Fungus gets caught talking shit
>OH NO I felt so bad and didn't want to collab
Fuck off Fungus. If you truly felt sorry you would graduate. Just fucking do us all a favor and do that. You goimg away would be a net positive for the entire vtuber community.

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>>23793968
Ah yes "seems like they are a little scared" and "hololive tech issues in shambles, niji thriving" were certainly not meant at digs. When your plan is rewrite what they say to sound nicer and change the context. Maybe it ain't worth saving.

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>>23790589
Millie's a saviourfag

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I never cared in the first place but good for him.
Now the STFU thread can truly thrive as the forbidden love between Sana and Fulgur intensifies.

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>>23790822
He literally had drama over the rules on his stream description before he even debuted. He tried to act like an edgy heel and fell flat on his face.

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>>23794650
Fungus is too much of a pathetic loser even for Sana.

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>>23794775
/vt/ making fun of him and calling him a wannabe dante isn't drama

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>>23794850
It wasn't just /vt/, the voxfujos got mad too. It was minor compared to the discord drama but it happened.

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>>23794899
they got mad at blue waffle and vox bantz
not his dumbass description

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>Wanted to graduate over the leak
>Didn't wanna collab with anyone so he couldn't drag anyone down.
I can respect that fungus man.

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>>23790589
>Niji reflection thread

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>>23790589
I'll never watch NijiEN again because of what the culture has become, but that seemed to be a genuine, non-mandated apology. Good on him.

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>>23791717
>addressed the Chinese antis by name
he will be the first to be sacrificed to the zhangs
very brave but also very stupid

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>>23794049
Why the fuck would he be saying "thank me shu" in the context of "Hololive tech issues in shambles, Niji thriving"? Shu's the tech support guy, he's obviously thanking him.
>>23794590
>"seems like they are a little scared"
I didn't include Fulgur in the list of "People mad at this are schizos" for a reason. Although I do think conflating what was presumably meant as "Cover seems scared of a business rival's growth" with "FULGUR COVID said COUNCIL was a FAILURE!!" is dumb.
>"hololive tech issues in shambles, niji thriving"
Yes, that's not a dig. The context there IS Shu saying "I applied for Hololive thinking they might be doing Holostars too and they didn't take me". If you aren't socially retarded Vox's intent is clearly "Well I'm glad you're with us instead", pointing to his tech support as a reason. Just saying someone has tech issues isn't an insult, EVERYONE has tech issues. The difference is that NijiEN has Shu to help and they don't.

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regrets that it got leaked perhaps, not what was said

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>>23790589
I hate how sweet millie is to a piece of shit like him

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>>23790589
How in God's name are people still posting this version of the Discord leak? Every single version has so many retarded ESL typos in it, like the words are plainly fucking visible and the "transcriptions" or whatever next to the sentences are A: written by a blind idiot, and B: not even a little necessary.

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>>23795213
Why would he regret stating the truth.

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He said nothing wrong, and thus did not apologize for anything he said, just that it got leaked. Seems pretty straightforward.

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>>23792608
Same. You can see how Enna is a bad influence on Millie here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3FALYFc408

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>>23794430
Their collab was already confirmed blocked long before the leak though. The claim was that relations became "cold" after it, you can't point to something that was already the case as proof of that.

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>>23793722
>Tsunderia
I'm sorry for your loss.

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I assumed people were just memeing and tribalfagging but based on this thread it seems like a non-insignificant number of people were actually, genuinely upset by mild shittalk that wasn't even 1/10th as bad as what you see on any thread on this board?

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>>23795140
>but that seemed to be a genuine, non-mandated apology
Am I deaf, or did he literally not apologize? He said he fucked up, but that isnt the same as being sorry

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>>23795492
you forgot to include "nothingburger" in your post
follow the script

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>>23795492
It was spammed for weeks, to the point where jannies started deleting threads with the image as an OP on sight.

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>>23795196
Again, having to rewrite what they said doesn't help you. It just proves you wrong. You know there is no saving what they said.

The most laughable part though is you keep trying to push no they just meant niji tech is so great! Didn't need to even reference holo then did he retard? Only one reason to do that, a comparison, a negative one. Almost like he was shitting on hololive just after Mori had tech issues. Your bug brain logic doesn't even make sense as Ame is already their tech support.

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>Niji yab
>Accidental discord leak cause Petra and Millie are morons
>Nothing happens thanks to their bonds of unity and friendship
>Holo yab
>Lose your biggest moneymakers within months of each other
Guess we know which company is REAL unity and not fake shit.

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>>23790589
No I don't like peaks behind the curtains stuff like this just shows how unprofessional they all are

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>>23795596
Right but I assumed 99% of that was tribalfags looking to get one over on niji, not people that were legitimately outraged that someone would make fun of Hololive tech issues.

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He just regret being part of the leak, because if Petra hadn't shown her discord window on stream he'd not be regretting anything.

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>>23795820
I already posted that >>23793766
I'd appreciate it if you didnt attempt to steal my (You)s

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>>23790589
He said nothing wrong.

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>>23791214
Laughing at fatties doesn't mean you're seething at them, it means you're laughing at them.
>fungus covid
will never not be funny lmao

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>>23795667
>Again, having to rewrite what they said doesn't help you.
Holy shit, I'm rephrasing it to make the meaning more obvious. Stop being dense.
>you keep trying to push no they just meant niji tech is so great!
Literally did not say that. I said SHU is the difference, and mentioning Hololive makes sense because it's in response to Shu saying he was rejected by Hololive.
Also:
>just after Mori had tech issues
The stream the leak was from and the stream where Mori had tech issues were at the same time. The leak was from the first 5 minutes of that stream, and the newest message in the channel was Mysta's (with Petra checking new messages in a completely different channel just a couple minutes before then.)
Unless you believe Vox was making fun of Mori's tech issues somewhere between minutes of when it was meant to start and LITERALLY BEFORE the stream was scheduled, the timeline doesn't make sense.

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>>23790589
Uhh Based?

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>>23795843
Vox was the one bringing up the tech issues, and it was only to praise Shu as the reason they don't have the same problems. I can only imagine the anger at Fulgur was a combination of him being new, the uniqueness of a group being brought up not in a positive light by another vtuber, and people reading it who aren't very good at English.

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>>23791640
Nijifags are liars anyway.

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>>23790589
Why does he sound like he's talking into his laptop's mic?

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>>23792608
>>23795349
Enna hasn't completely influenced Millie yet.she latches on to her because she was lonely. I can still save her and cut off her symbiotic relationship with Enna so she stays kind,pure and thoughtful!

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>>23790589
Fatgur not like this...

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>>23790589
Millie fucked up, we would have been free of this faggot

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>>23790720
I forgive ollie

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>>23795412
What caused collab being blocked?

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>>23796075
The mori stream where she collabed with gura and holox was way before the Millie stardew valley stream. Its extremely clear what he was talking about and of course its going to be extremely ironic too that he talks about hololive tech issues when the "leak" happened precisely because niji has shit tech and they have to share their game screens through fucking discord that allowed it to happen in the first place.
And here is the original leak since most nijinigs deflect into attacking the "esl" people that caught it during the stream instead

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>>23796516
No one knows for sure whether it was Niji or Holo that had a problem. The only thing that seemed sure was that it was management that had problems with it, not the talent. Selen also had a collab with Ollie that got blocked for some reason. JP has collabed with JP and ID with ID in the meantime, so it's specifically an english problem.

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>>23796585
This screenshot reminds me that
>VOD deleted
>petra is feeling down, she must be released a pretty HUGE yab
Tribalsanji, you cant make this shit up

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>>23790589
He's even more obese neckbeard than I am. He deserves no sympathy.

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>>23796585
>The mori stream where she collabed with gura and holox was way before the Millie stardew valley stream
Nope. They were scheduled for the exact same time. Mori's stream didn't even start until 30 minutes after the leak screenshot was taken.
Here's some tweets about it so you can see for yourself:
https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin/status/1499943980397568002
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1499951696071770112
>And here is the original leak
I took both of those screenshots lol, I know what happened.

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>>23796502
kek

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>>23790589
Who? Oh yeah, that Flopur Covid guy. Yeah, he and Noctyx didn't do as good as they expected.

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>>23797151 (me)
>Mori's stream didn't even start until 30 minutes after the leak screenshot was taken.
Actually that was poor phrasing on my part. Correction:
Mori's stream didn't start until 30 minutes after Petra flashed her screen. The actual screenshots were taken after the stream ended.

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>>23794430
Kiara literally mentionned Pomu today in her stream dramachama. No they won't collab because Niji is ran by chinks.

You're obviously a dramanigger though so they could literally have a leak of them having sex on camera and you'd still say they hate each other or some shit

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>>23796502
Is that real tho?

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I want to talk with a femanon about an all out war
Photon#5580

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>>23796841
Even if management blocked collab due to unconfirmed reasons, that doesnt explains mori's action and sudden halt with twitter replies outside pomu-kiara's

The fact that even ollie from holoID get blocked from collab sounds like double down by management. Fuck

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/vt/ - Nijisanji

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>>23797720
>sudden halt with twitter replies
People say this and
>hurr why doesn't all of EN want to collab with Niji
But honestly Kiara is the only EN that spoke with Niji frequently, and even then it's just Finana Pomu and Elira. I don't remember any time Mori did (though I'm sure she has). DEFINITELY NOT Ina Gura or Ame or any of Council and Irys. Ame has liked some of their tweets though but only that much

The IDs though I only know of Moona and Ollie talking with Millie and Reimu IIRC (and Selen for Ollie)

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regrets that he was caught, not the content

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>>23797720
>mori's action
She saw the leak, thought it was worse than it was, then looked again and changed her mind. It doesn't have to be complicated.
>sudden halt with twitter replies outside pomu-kiara
Were they even common outside those 2? All I remember was an occasional reply back when a NijiEN commented under a HoloEN post.
Also I know HoloJP's different, but we HAVE had Fubuki-Finana and Polka-Pomu interactions since then at least.

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>>23796841
It’s omega’s fault

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>>23796841
>specifically an English problem
I don't know about that. If you look on the JP side the only Holo/Niji collabs that really happen anymore are the long standing pairings that were probably grandfathered into the new policy. Call it a hunch but there seems to be legit bad blood between the two companies these days.

ID doesn't really factor into this since they have kind of done their own thing since the beginning.

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>>23797316
Chinknigger, do you reps reading this whole replies. I never mentioned pomu and kiara hates each other, you outed yourself being bigger dramafaggot than myself.
Why you zhangs dont go back to NGA? Vox already moved to bilibili so he can become your local manwhore now for all i care.

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>>23797350
Israel, ollie wished him for happy birthday then she deletes it

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>>23790589
Who cares about this fucking nigger. All /vt/ viewers of luxiem and noctfaggots please off yourselves

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>>23792608
Yeah. Same

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>>23797720
There's a lot that's possible, but without confirmation from the people involved it's mostly speculation. The only thing we have is vague comments about collabs being blocked from Pomu/Selen/Kiara. There aren't as many polite interactions on twitter anymore, but that could be due to anything. People should be free to think of as many reasons as we want, but everyone reading should just be realistic that we just can't confirm those things.

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>>23797913
>she saw the leak, unfollowed fulgur forever
>we talk about fubuki, who doesnt aware with EN society to the point she innocently tweeted 'i love furry', caused EN fans shocked
>ollie already collab with mirei gundou from nijiJP but never with nijiEN

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>>23798518
>See >>23792574
>I literally said "I know JP is different"
>Didn't mention Ollie or ID at all

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>>23797858
Literally cant stop tribalfagging, because the biggest rrat will be
>holoEN collabed with vshojo but never with nijiEN
Cant stop tribalfags if EN managements support that behavior

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>>23798844
>>holoEN collabed with vshojo but never with nijiEN
I'll still never understand this. Let's just assume all chinese accusations are false, there's literally no good explanation for either side to block it. It's not like Niji and Holo hate each other fucking Ollie and Risu JUST collabed with Nijis. But Ollie can't with Selen.

Regardless of what people say the finger still points at Niji because of the Ollie shit, but if a HoloEN would attempt a NijiJP collab, I'm curious to see how Holo and Niji would react to that if it's allowed then that's fucked up lmao

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>>23799343
>there's literally no good explanation for either side to block it
In what thread do you think you are? The reason is literally in the OP

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>>23799428
they were blocking collabs a full six months before Fulgur even had his fuckup

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>>23799428
It was blocked long before OP newfagchama

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>>23799498
>he thinks NijiEN started their tribalniggery with the males
Goddamn it feels good not being a retarded chink

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>>23799428
Thanks for your dogshit opinion you literal fucking dramatourist but the adults who've been here since /jp/ are talking now

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>>23798707
The chance vox talked out with mori or vice versa is likely, because sure its rude for mori suddenly unfollow vox and fulgur on twitter due to things she read at internet, vox and mori must be have small DM talk and came into agreement but fulgur remain unfollowed since
>ollie
Some EN member are EOP or very shy outside their circle, ollie doesnt have those problems, loves collab with other vtubers and an apex player so she can be used as standard how open holoEN to collab outside their circle

Sorry with grammar, i already give up writing this

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>>23799665
My actual speculation with Ollie is that both of her Selen collabs were cancelled just because they were close to Council and HoloX's debuts, and that nothing has happened since then because she's a dumb impressionable zoomer and is scared of /here/ backlash, but I left that out because again, it's just speculation.

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>>23790589
lol he doesnt even apologize

[Anonymous No.]

When Pomu and Kiara collab they will make an all out war joke. Mark my words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23790589
>forgive him
Only fanwars niggers cared to begin with. This was one of the most pathetic "yabs" in the history of this board.

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>>23790589
>doesn't apologize
>doesn't actually regret shit despite OP claiming he does
Holy based.

[Anonymous No.]

bend the knee fulgoid!

[Anonymous No.]

>>23800304
this

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>>23799343
>literally no good explanation for either side to block it
holo management is paranoid about nijiEN leeching because they hold a massive portion of the EOP market and dont want to threaten their monopoly

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>>23793377
sounds like typical whore behavior to me, they always claim it was just a joke

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>>23799343
that would be one hella wicked joke by holoEN kek
Captcha: 08SMG

[Anonymous No.]

>doesnt apologize
I mean only think he needed to say was sorry

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>>23801102
You say this but Kiara mentions pomu almost every other stream and Pomu still mentions Kiara and they talk to each other on twitter constantly. DYRB that shit wouldn't be stopped by management

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>>23801566
>DYRB that shit wouldn't be stopped by management
Yes because managers aren't going to monitor every fucking thing they say and there's a point where it's not worth fighting the talent on some things, you just compromise with "not now but maybe later" until they stop asking

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>>23801566
Yes.
None of that is on the level of a collab in terms of "could send our audience to our direct competitor in an audience where we have a strong advantage"

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>>23801726
Vox's part in this fucking kills me every time.

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>>23801726
Do you have the 40k one?

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>>23801670
>managers aren't going to monitor every fucking thing they say
Except they do. Gura literally said hers was looking through her Steam message chats
To no ones surprise this was 2 days after Rushia was fired. They monitor everything. If they didn't before they definitely do now.
>there's a point where it's not worth fighting the talent on some things, you just compromise with "not now but maybe later" until they stop asking
You say this but Pomutori art is rising exponentially (IIRC one recently got 70k likes on twitter) and it still keeps happening. This plan isn't working
>>23801693
>None of that is on the level of a collab in terms of "could send our audience to our direct competitor in an audience where we have a strong advantage"
But vshojo, also a big competitor, is completely allowed to collab with all of EN (AND with NijiEN)
How does that make sense anon

[Anonymous No.]

They probably need to draft a list of acceptable and unacceptable collabs.
Like Pomu and Kiara is probably safe.
Irys and Enna or Millie is probably not safe.

[Anonymous No.]

MILLIE DUMB BITCH STOP ASSOCIATE YOUR SELF WITH THIS FAGGOT GOD DAMMIT

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>>23802384
enna and mumei will forever be my cracked collab dream

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>>23802462
Millie's only crime is having a conscience.
Something which ironically Fulgur doesn't have.

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>>23802112
>Except they do.
I dunno I don't watch hololive
>You say this but Pomutori art is rising exponentially
Art's one thing but it's mainly seen by people who already have the overlap in fandom, a collab is direct exposure that showcases the opposing talent.
>But vshojo, also a big competitor, is completely allowed to collab with all of EN (AND with NijiEN)
Nijisanji is still in a pretty big growth period, vshojo already kind of made it as streamers, especially nyanners & ironmouse where most of the focus is for hololive as I understand it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23802384
>Mori and Nina drinking stream

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>>23802462
Niji women exist solely to be cocksleeves of the men
Its the only way they can survive now

[Anonymous No.]

>>23790589
This is what happens when you copy bait out of the /nijiEN/ thread without verifying it first.
Sasuga, catalogfags.

[Anonymous No.]

This bullshit again? Ah yes. I forgot most people in this site are incels who have no life and have nothing to talk about accept for these shitpost and baiting about drama. Well done dramfags and numberfags. Vtubers are cringe so grow the fuck up and find a fucking job.

[Anonymous No.]

He said the council didn't live up to their expectations, how about him and his wave, do they match to the previous wave?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23802112
Vshoujo and Hololive both have Twitch/YouTube only audiences they're not in danger of losing.
Also: Even those took months to get approved.

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>>23790589
Never blamed him and never will, he just said what alot of people think, baseless or not
Plus he don't regret his opinion, only the headache it caused to nijiEN even through it wasn't his fault the leak
But since it was a nothing burger management just did the correct of not addressing this
at the end of the day, holofags acted like a bunch of zhangs one could literally say
>Fulgur actions Hurted the feelings of the Hololive fans

[Anonymous No.]

It feels like kind of a drama queen move to say he nearly graduated over it, I feel like he's so used to joking about that stuff he doesn't really consider the significance of saying that kinda stuff

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>>23802824
And yet you're here long enough to understand the drama and its impact on this board. Don't kid yourself, you're just as bad as the people you want to claim that youre better than. Oh let me guess, you're the exception?

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>>23801952
I got you

[Anonymous No.]

>>23803015
>Also: Even those took months to get approved.
Mori Ironmouse and Bae Ironmouse took a week max anon
>>23802558
>Art's one thing but it's mainly seen by people who already have the overlap in fandom
That's what I'm getting at anon
https://twitter.com/DasDokter/status/1519907273824296960
>60k
That's a fuck ton of exposure, aka to newfags who don't know about them. I can't even think of art that gets this much positive reception other than stuff Mamaloni draws, granted yes this is a one-off meme, exposure is exposure.

Saying this to say, again if that's management's plan then they're failing horribly

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>>23790589
why would i watch him when i can watch a jerma vod

[Anonymous No.]

>>23792973
do you really think people saying this watch her solo content?
this is just little sensitive babies
which is funny since they are eager to call people nigger or fags here

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>>23803362
>That's a fuck ton of exposure, aka to newfags who don't know about them. I can't even think of art that gets this much positive reception other than stuff Mamaloni draws, granted yes this is a one-off meme, exposure is exposure.
yeah and it's barely affected Pomu's channel at all because it's just a meme, it's not direct exposure, it doesn't showcase Pomu or say anything about her content or explain who he is. a collab actually showcases the talents and exposes each other's fanbase to their content except that almost every western vtuber fan is already aware of hololive

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>>23803546
It's ok when I call people retarded niggerfaggot trannies but the anime girl joked about nerds and I cried :(

[Anonymous No.]

Don't really follow EN but did any of the holoEN members collab with any nijis after this incident?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23804108
No, but they didn't before either and the only pair who wanted to both basically confirmed they weren't allowed to months before it happened.

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>>23790589
I respect him for acknowledging it. He's still a retard though.
>>23791069
Generally, the best way for westerners/western companies to survive a yab is to ignore any backlash and not give it any more attention (e.g. Mori, most western content creators).
In Japan, it's the opposite: rectifying their "mistake", apologizing for it, and sometimes taking time to "reflect" (e.g. the nipple guy, Mio).
When someone attempts a technique that isn't native to their region, it just seems odd like when Yugo took a week off or when Kanae apologized in English for making a gorilla character black.

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>>23804108
yea Sana and Fulgur just had one anon

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>>23803357
Thank you so fucking much

[Anonymous No.]

do nijifriends realy think we upset over this dickscore leak..
aight we feel sorry for this guy but sana fungus meme are funny though

[Anonymous No.]

>>23798199
She deleted it because redditfags were obnoxious trying to bring it up every chance they had.

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>>23791069
He probably would
the reason nothing was never addressed is clearly management decision
which was the best decision

I will not even call it "the west" since even nippleman had alot of people wanting him out for this "evil actions"
When you apologize
>you declare yourself guilty
>the internet mob is your judge
>their sentence is always death
since the source came from 4chan and was put on leddit it was easy to pretend nothing happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>23805385
Understand SEAmonkeys not being contained here by mods has been a disaster for the vtuber scene

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>>23791226
the problem itself wasnt a big deal
the reason he almost graduated was his feeling his fellow coworkers would avoid him
the clip is about why he became close to Millie and she was the first to reach out letting him know he was not outcasted(the leak came from her channel)

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>>23790589
Millie and Fulgur being such good friends is so kino...

[Anonymous No.]

>the discord leak led to millie and fungus shenanigans
Everything went better than expected.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think Fulgur is capable of feeling guilt?
Like he has to have a tiny part of his brain telling him that he might be part of the reason that the girls in his company are incapable of collabing with HoloEN, which might help the girls is only a tiny bit.
I guess the most natural thing to do is not care since I mean, it's not his problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23790589
That retarded hambeast didnt even apologize lole
Not that i hate him or anything, the sana fulgur pairing is more fun than his streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>23806161
Yes.
Also I highly doubt his actions have anything to do with the lack of collabs. There were collab blocks far before he even debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23790589
Obviously he does. Who would think he wouldn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23806161
If the whole thing with Vox and Fulgur during their smash stream indicated anything, yeah, he's capable of both feeling guilt and being the better man.

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>>23806161
He expresses as much in the OP video...

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>>23806161
>ke he has to have a tiny part of his brain telling him that he might be part of the reason that the girls in his company are incapable of collabing with HoloEN
He has almost certainly considered that despite it being obviously untrue, yes.
If it makes butthurt Holofags feel better, he probably considered suicide over it too, based on how often he joked about that early on.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is completely pointless because the collab he’s talking about happened a month before the discord shit happened and yet here we are 200 posts later

[Anonymous No.]

>>23807276
No it was like a week after.
The discord shit was March 4th, the collab was March 13th.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23807276
Wait never mind it was the same month

[Anonymous No.]

>>23806161
I hope he buys all Millie all her drinks whenever they go out and pays for all the food and transport and lodging. She deserves that and much more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23807533
Yes, make her drunk and fuck her brains out.

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>>23790589
GOD I wish he had actually graduated then

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>>23790589
The never apologized, they never even really acknowledged it. He's felt bad it happened because he's the one that looked most like a jackass in the conversation. So no, fuck him.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought someone said Ollie forgave him?
Or is she really still holding a grudge

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>>23802112
>But vshojo, also a big competitor, is completely allowed to collab with all of EN (AND with NijiEN)
>How does that make sense anon
HoloEN has more to lose from a collab with NijiEN than they do with Vshoujo. Holo and Niji share a platform and arguably have some overlap in audience (Lazu/obsydia has a good chunk of viewers who know of both Holo and Niji). Collabing with NijiEN would force them to effectively promote to their audience that there is an alternative to HoloEN, and some people will inevitably get curious, check them out and some of those might even switch over to Niji.

Compared to Vshoujo, who are on a different platform, which has a different culture and audience, and is something that Hololive are trying to get more into (Miko does watchalongs on it, Ame did a stream on there, Laplus and Roboco stream on twitch and others have made accounts on it), and it makes sense that they will try to increase their audience from the Twitch crowd, from which collabs with Vshoujo will give the best possible exposure to an interested audience and arguably the easiest path. Hell, they might be able to get some people to double-dip on Youtube memberships and Twitch subs which is more money.

You have to think like a business; would you collab with NijiEN knowing that there's a possibility you could lose viewers? or would you take a safer option in collabing with Vshoujo and potentially gaining viewers from the Twitch crowd?

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>>23805535
JIJAY!!!

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>>23795492
Half of the conversation is just shit talking about Holos. Do you think that one screengrab is the only time they happened to be doing it? The fact they have a private unmanaged discord so they can do that kind of stuff is shady enough.

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>>23806161
>part of the reason that the girls in his company are incapable of collabing with HoloEN
I never even considered this. Even if Noctyx and Luxiem never debuted, I think Niji still would bar EN from collabing with HoloEN.

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>>23808262
Ollie probably doesn't care. I assume she just deleted her tweet to avoid schizos from complaining then dmed him happy birthday in private.

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>>23808504
Because the subject happened to be about cover taking male applicants. They just talk about random shit hence mytas crying at the bottom.

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>>23808590
>think Niji still would bar EN from collabing with HoloEN.
>A smaller one ban collab with a larger one
Any sane management won't make such retarded decision. It would only be another way around.

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If we're being candid here, Hololive EN's talents are just too awkward to interact with outside companies. Besides Kiara and Mori, all the talents seem to be introverts. Ame, Gura, and Ina have acquired routines that they'd prefer not to break.

Council are mostly by the book streamers who do not innovate much. Let alone arrange for collaborations with individuals outside of Hololive.

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Also this fucker camped in the numbers thread for like 4 months shitting it up with his "hurr durr council bad" shit the entire time, and coincidentally fucked off forever literally the day the discord leak happened. Exact same wording, tone, and arguments as "Council Schizo". I *could* have been persuaded he was just reading the thread and parroting the guy if not for the fact that someone that was there every single day disappeared off the face of the earth at that exact moment.

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>>23808504
>The fact they have a private unmanaged discord so they can do that kind of stuff is shady enough.
my favourite holocope is the one where management needs to control all aspects of the talents personal lives and supervise any kind of actual natural relationships they may have

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>>23809007
This. Just look at what happened with Miko and the niji dog. The minute hololive got popular she ghosted her.

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>>23809275
Link the posts

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>>23790589
Sorry that people found out isn't the same as sorry they said it.
Thanks to this guy it gets posted here every single day by baitposters. I'll never forgive him for shitting up the catalogue.

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>>23809275
Meds onegai

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>>23807533
even if he became the center of hate
keep in mind this was not just his fault
>Millie was the one streaming/set up the screen sharing
>Petra was the one alt-tabbing while capturing everything instead of just game capture
at least it became a mutual appreciation of each other

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>>23791214
Literally. The people upset over nothing are insane. You can't mollify those people; they're just going to find something else to go insane over.

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>>23809275
I beleeb it

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>>23809534
There's hundreds of them. If you want to see them just go to the numbers thread archive and search for any posts with the word council in them for like a week before that leak.

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>>23809485
There's the argument to be made that Cover's management is preventing outside collaborations to create a closed environment. Though this status has yet to produce any benefits, as prior events would show. With their reputation isolated to Hololive, Cover's talents suffer from severe isolation if they have any issues.

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>>23790589

The only thing he should regret is the fact that he is a fucking hippopotamus and do nothing about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23809275
But council is bad, alot of people said that even before manjisanjiEN existed
they shat the bed and made Connor statement valid forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>23810094
No, you're just a non-stream watching threadreading shitstirrer. The only one that completely dropped the ball was Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

If we're gonna talk about this shit at least post the real leak

[Anonymous No.]

>>23810184
As someone that doesn't watch Council, is that even true? What of Kronii and her constant breaks / lack of care for her streams saying she hates it?
I'm genuinely asking this.

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>>23810373
Her only three main breaks were Christmas, like everyone else, her computer dying and then her getting covid. The rest of the time she would ease up on streaming to work on behind the scenes shit like one of Bae's covers. Her only issue was something similar to Sana's except she at least juggled multiple games instead of doing nothing but 12 hour streams of one of them until she beat it. She at least has 5 streams a week which is something similar to, say, Ina who has had the same amount since she realized she was burning herself out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23810184
Kronii also fumbled her launch hype. Council as a whole from a business perspective is a severe failure. Council and IRyS are borderline unmarketable because of how unremarkable they are.

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>>23809536
In this same vein you will never forgive
>Selen for existing
>Mori for cucking the beats
>Vox for getting too much subs
>Gura for also existing
those 4 are pretty much 70% of catalog baits depending of whats happening

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>>23790589
Based. Millie is so wholesome.

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>>23810808
Can't speak for Gura or Mori, but I can guarantee you any true fan of Selen or Vox stay contained in their generals unless someone provokes them otherwise. No, all those bait threads of Vox are not posted by kindred.

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>>23811020
Every good thing about Millie is 75% negated by her being best friends with Enna.
I will never support Millie while she's Enna's buttbuddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23811227
Cope and Seethe. Enna is the best EN Vtuber

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>>23811175
A true fan of any vtuber will be as aggressive as possible on their behalf on /vt/, creating as much false drama and conflict with other vtubers as possible.

This will drive traffic to their channel, encourage them to network with the "enemy" vtuber by talking out the drama with them personally, and engender sympathy from normies, who only see how transparently petty the drama is, and not the motivation behind it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23811227
What do you have against Enna? serious question

[Anonymous No.]

>>23814456
>Thinking SEAnigger schizos on /vt/ use reason to reach their conclusions
Stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>23814456
Vulgur, unfunny, a genuinely bad and mean person.
Also unabashedly chink in all the worst ways.

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>>23809275
There were a whole lot more people saying the exact things he was to rile up Council fans, not just on this website. The sheer irony of the reaction to the link was the collective seethe produced when it was coming from the other company and not from the typical Holo fan infighting.

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>>23814311
Let me know how that worked out with Mori.

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>>23790589
He's cheating on Sana! Fungus hate!

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>>23790589
It's like all out war

[Anonymous No.]

>>23815284
I mean...

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>>23801034
Just wondering what's the context to Kiara's statement here.
Was it when she missed the discord messages for the off-collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23814311
>/vt/ are just a bunch of drama-obsessed twitter troons who make shit up and cancel vtubers for attention
it all makes sense now

[Anonymous No.]

>>23790589
Why are all apologies by streamers always so fucking bad? Why can't people just directly say what they fucked up on and apologize directly? Every content creator's "apology" just looks like their sorry for being caught instead of the actual "fuck up". Like, I'd respect these people more if they just told their haters to shove it up their ass, but their obviously too cowardly to stand by the things they say wholesale. Better yet, just don't acknowledge it if you aren't sorry. It's just the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23792973
She's a textbook example of a girl that tries too hard to not be seen as a "demure, submissive asian girl" stereotype so over compensates into being a crude bitch

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care about the discord leak
I only hate him because he's an obese gay neckbeard

[Anonymous No.]

>So, you are saying this is a leak from their official discord?
Yes
>And that only one person in the entirety of /vt/ noticed
Yes
>Not twitter, not 2/5ch, not kirasuki, no. Only 4chan noticed it. Only you from little over a thousand that were watching the stream that moment.
Y-Yes
>And the leak was almost at the start of the video but you only felt like talking about it hours later until it was over for some reason
Yes?
>And this leak got the VOD deleted right?
Yes!
>Not because they spent over 5 minutes talking about lactating and Millie making fun of the disabled, right?
Y-Yes…
>And only by coincidence you are the only person in the internet to have archived this VOD right?
Y-Yes?
>Which you could have just released that moment but you refused to for weeks
Yes…
>And without it the only other proof you presented is this very specific, trimmed and carefully slowed down video of it
Yes…
>But you still refuse to share more content of the VOD instead
Yes!
>And said leak are these blurry ass images with shit written like your average /vt/tard
Yes
>And despite most of the people involved sound out of character this is the real deal, right?
Y-Yes
>And this leak it's so real that not a single person from Nijisanji bothered to comment
Yes…?
>And no one from the other company replied either
Y-Yes
>What about the picture that shows instead Petra stalking discord for pictures of Shu?
UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH dude just trust me. So what if everyone but /vt/ already said this is fake? Come on man.
>Did you unironically believe they'll comment on every single piece of fake shit that the internet makes about them?
Yes.

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23817493
grats on being the last surviving "it's fake" retard

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>>23817255
To give you a serious response, do you think he could actually address this directly when the drama was largely confined to 4chan and containment breakers? You could argue he himself was as bad as the latter group for addressing it, but I personally thought it was the best way he could have addressed it without saying things he is in all likelihood not allowed, or heavily discouraged to say. This is the same guy who goes out of his way to filter schizos and does tell his haters to shove it up their ass.

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>>23817904
The talents found out, and that's primarily who Fulgur would address. Unironically, if Mori added back both Vox and Fulgur, I think I would at least be fine with it, but only Vox was added back so thank Mori for the rrats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23815819
what the absolute fuck is that dogshit typography

[Anonymous No.]

>>23817493
Holy cope.

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>>23819016
I think that's a fair take on it, but it's not something I feel comfortable speculating about without knowing what actually went on behind the scenes. Maybe Mori and Vox had done some small talk before, whereas this happened practically right after Noctyx debuted and reaching out without that existing rapport could have been risky.

[Anonymous No.]

thanks for the tears holosisters

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>>23817255
Nobody likes to apologize in front of hundreds/thousands even if they are a genuinely good person (high chance this fatso is the councilschizo so why would anyone expect proper apology) + the yab surprisingly gets forgotten fast outside of here and certain circle so as long as he doesn't directly refers to that yab it stays that way.

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>>23819016
>>23819228
>mori was drunk and forgot to follow fulgur back

there, a sensible explanation
makes more sense than whatever telenovela BS the SEA dramaniggers come up with

[Anonymous No.]

>>23790589
>fungus covid
wtf is that name supposed to mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>23817493
falseflag cope, actual nijifags watch streams and saw the discord flash on stream
it was disregarded as harmless because there's no lies or animosity there unless you're a console war retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>23790589
>massive massive problem
nijiniggers? i thought this was a nothingburger like you said...

[Anonymous No.]

Who gives a shit, at the end of day it's fucking business. You don't want your customers going to other stores. Simple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23795154
He's already got a fanbase, what would stop him just to go indie?
Bugmen have no power anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23819581
I don't know...
Mori is pretty quick to forgive people. Something must have made her decide to add Vox back but hold off on adding Fulgur back. Alcohol doesn't plain both of her decisions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23792574
Mori didn't unfollow Millie. Heck nobody in Hololive who followed her unfollowed her after that leak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23800304
the nijicope

[Anonymous No.]

>>23790589
No. I've know many people like this who apologize for stuff like this and I usually find out later that they were lying to try to look better

[Anonymous No.]

You know nothing happened when for months you argue with everyone that nothing happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23817904
>do you think he could actually address it directly?
He's doing that right now in the clip. He admits he fucks up but he doesn't go into it or apologizes. Just acknowledges the schizo rambling. Instead of running his mouth pussyfooting around he should just drop it. It's just like everyone says, "it's a nothingburger". Yet, he still talked about said nothing burger like he was in the wrong, but doesn't apologize. This is why I said content creators just can't give real apologies for the life of them. I don't know what compels e-celebs and celebs alike to do this shit. just say sorry or don't and own what you did as a badge of pride. going the middle route only comes off ass being sorry for being caught and not the actions themselves.

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>>23819948
Vox and Mori actually interacted.
Fulgur is shy and autistic and probably hasn't talked to any Holos behind the scenes because he has extremely low self-esteem. He'd rather feel ashamed privately and let them hate him than contact someone he's never talked to just to apologize and humiliate himself. If you guys can't relate to that you're probably a normalfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23798518
>i love furry
wasn't that Mori? And iirc she complained about losing a bunch of followers after that as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>23792145
NO SAN DONT DO IT. YOU WILL GET STD FROM ANYKARAS

[Anonymous No.]

>>23790589
? I don't hear any form of regret, just "yeah it was my bad". No apology either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23823931
>"yeah it was my bad". No apology either.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=My%20bad
seriously?

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>>23823617
Or he's a cunt and you're coping

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>>23795492
Well you see, a lot of holofags were pro-unity, even /here/. And rightfully shit on people trying to start shit between the companies when they just wanted everyone to get along.

Unfortunately, this incident proved that the Niji livers themselves were tribalfagging, numberfagging and shittalking the holos behind their backs, and that kinda destroyed a lot of the "pro-unity" arguments that people used to make.

Now the unityfags are just trying to ignore the existence of NijiEN overall, and only mildly tolerate the more tame ones like Lazulight.

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>>23809420
Didn't know that Nijisanji was Tsunderia where the talent owns the character rights.

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>>23811227
At the start i fucking hate enna too , but if you try to follow her streams sometimes she show some kind of cuteness you dont expect from a femcel... just give it a try

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>>23805385
based gatekeepers

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>>23824117
>Fulgur
>cunt
>the guy who cried on stream in his first week because people actually showed up to watch him.
>the guy everyone constantly praises for being extremely nice and humble and the emotionally supportive backbone of his gen.
retard

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>>23824188
Two faced cunt then.

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>>23822874
This is the problem with the defence as well. Trying to make it seem like a closed issue with an obvious nothing burger answer, but there being multiple different defensive narratives. Surprisingly changing in the exact way needed to counter any criticism. Doesn't look honest when there is a unified complaint of tribalfagging.

The defence of it is nothing only works when there is a unified narrative. Know how we'd get that? A direct simple apology, "sorry I didn't mean it, I was a bit stressed and not thinking when I wrote it." Quicker than a meandering "uh guys I was real sad and stressed when something happened but niji love!"

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>>23795492
Everyone knows /vt/ is full of idiotic schizos and no one takes opinions here seriously. Hololive and Nijisanji have been pretty friendly in the past and most people were looking forward to the inevitable HoloEN/NijiEN collab ... only for it to be revealed NijiEN are shittalking the other corpo in private. It doesn't really matter if it's not awful, but it's definitely negative and it torpedos any chance of a collab soon which is what unityfags like me wanted before this shitshow happened.

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>>23790589
I wonder if this was the reason for the "WE ARE A FAMILY" and "WE HAD AN (offscreen) ANIME ARC" tweets.

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>>23824332
>inevitable HoloEN/NijiEN collab
Literally only Pomutori.

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>>23824332
>It doesn't really matter if it's not awful, but it's definitely negative and it torpedos any chance of a collab soon
Literally nothing has changed between the companies, they still interact on Twitter exactly as much as they used to(barely any except Mori and Kiara and Moona and Ollie).

No one who is actually a unityfag expected a HoloEN/NijiEN collab before this happened, Hololive had been blocking collabs since the moment Lazulight debuted and everyone knows it from Pomu/Kiara's failed attempts at setting up a collab. Even fucking Ollie who collabed with Gundou the biggest whore of Nijisanji couldn't get her manager to let her do a NijiEN collab. Even Millie who used to be very close with HoloID and collabed with them almost every week before Nijisanji hasn't had a single collab with them since debuting. All of this was long before any discord leak.

Now that Luxiem/Noctyx debuted the odds of a collab were always non-existent. Petra's doing a collab this week with a bunch of popular indie vtubers like Miori and Finana has collabed with 2view corpos like Shiki from Prism and yet Hololive still live in their eternal bubble. Don't know why anyone expects that to change when the walled garden approach is what they're known for.

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>>23790589
Pretty sure he just regrets that it got out.

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>>23790801
>>23791779
>>23795213
>>23797893
>>23824566
thank you for your amazing insight anons. Glad whenever anyone apologizes for something online, we have analytical minds such as yourselves to see through the bullshit and enlighten everyone. I pray you stick around this board the next time a talent makes a mistake and addresses it, for hopefully more of your astute observations.

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I'll believe him when Mori follows him back. Mori clearly has sway too. If anything is going to get nijiEN girls the ability to collab with holoEN, it's going to be having people like Mori like you. The bonus here too is that Mori is very easy to fool too. She'd probably believe this apology if it was even a tiny bit sincere.

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>>23795349
Enna being a bad influence on Millie is a good analogy for the influence the PRC has on the Philippines.

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>>23825083
Mori and Vox should collab, they're both huge numberfags with 0 fan overlap. I think it's too late for Fulgur though, no clout for Mori to chase there compared to the other boys.

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>>23825260
It's definitely analogous to how Enna sees her and Millie's real life friendship too.
Millie is dumb and a flip. Enna is a well off chink. Chinks are racist as fuck, and they're most racist against other asian nations. Enna probably views Millie more as a dancing monkey pet than a friend.

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>>23798126
I don't think there is actual bad blood between the company but attempting new collabs simply require additional logistic preparations. If their members aren't familiar with each other then they are at worst apathetic. The longstanding collabs are proven "safe" so other company's are confident that it wouldn't cause issue.
If we're gonna be practical about it then Cover should just come out and tell everyone which members are okay to collab with, which one can speak with males, and which ones have beef with China for those who have business interest there. Are they going to need an army of mods to deal with chat?

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>Hololive had been blocking collabs
>No evidence except /vt/ rrats

>Nijisanji would support collabs with Hololive because they are a smaller company
>Ignores the capitalists controlling Nijisanji who don't want to associate with Hololive for the sake of Chinese money
Good business decision by Nijisanji, but all the "Hololive is blocking collabs" retards need to wake up or stop trolling.