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What went wrong de gozaru?

>> No.23737926 [DELETED] 

>>23737805
>vehemently refusing the seiso title
>existence of a boyfriend
>lying about stream inexperience
>said to her fans that she doesn't want to work harder after being accepted in hololive
She wasted all of her momentum. She was 3rd most subbed in her gen post-debut but she's the runt of the litter after the dust has settled.

>> No.23737975

>>23737926
>existence of a boyfriend
Is that confirmed or it comes from the twitch thing that people found with a male voice on it?

>> No.23738225

when she doesn't play a certain game it's completely fine

>> No.23738260

>>23737805
>>23737975
She’s a massive bitch regardless

>> No.23738444

>>23738260
Please elaborate

>> No.23738525

>>23738260
????

>> No.23738555

>>23738260
I'm curious too. Is the BF just (You) being a schizo or it's legit confirmed she has one?

>> No.23738887

>shitting on Iroha of all people
kys

>> No.23739815

no yab confirmed for her or nips would be already talking about it

>> No.23739874
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Lapchan is not a boy.

>> No.23739882

>>23739815
Her numbers are pathetic. Japs are already onto her.
I would forget she exists if she didn't have some smoking hot fanart.

>> No.23739917

>>23738260
Says she has a lot of work to do before being called a professional like her holo senpais 5ch and retards like you think she's shittalking the other girls for being lazy.

>> No.23740200

>>23739882
Just yesterday she had like 10k+ viewers while playing taiko no tatsujin and her last stream of FFX had amazing numbers. She gets bad numbers often when she plays FFXIV.
She's doing more than fine. She offers something different from the rest of her gen.

>> No.23740277

>real voice is stupidly high pitched
>pitches it down instead to make it sound deeper
she's based

>> No.23740362

>>23739882
>numbers
ah, them nijinigs as always

>> No.23740388

>>23740200
>She offers something different from the rest of her gen.

No she doesn’t

>> No.23740442

>>23737805
Nips think she ruins collabs by existing.
So to Nips she's basically Mori Lite.

>> No.23740502

>>23740362
I know, I know, but it's not like we can discuss how chuubas are faring relative to one another in any other way. Taste is subjective.
And telling a vtuber "oh honey numbers don't matter all that matters is having fun" is blue-pilling them.

>> No.23740678

>>23740442
Nips are schizos. There's no talent in JP that has done anything to get even half the hate Mori gets.
No JP talent openly hates idols and hololive like Mori does and let's be honest: were Mori a nip she would have got [redacted] after all the shit she's done.

>> No.23740698

>>23740388
>waaaahh my rrat isn't working whyyyyy
Do us all a favor, go find a bridge and pull a 720° backflip if you can.

>> No.23740758

>>23740678
>openly
proof next thread?

>> No.23740762

>>23740678
Cool story bro

>> No.23740790

>>23740678
Yeah I never looked deeper into why nips think she ruins collabs, from what I gathered they think she's boring.
If Mori spoke fluent Japanese and they had to hear half the shit she says in English collabs they would have trolled her ass into getting fired ages ago.

>> No.23740880

>>23740698
>can’t tell anyone how she’s different

Okay retard.

>> No.23741036

>>23740442
I like Iroha the most out of holox and I don't disagree. She tries too hard in collabs, she's always trying to please whoever she's together with but it never works. It doesn't come off as genuine, I don't know what's wrong with her.
Solo zatsu streams are her best ones, in my opinion, she's good to listen to talking about whatever, kind of like Subaru. But put her in a collab and the whole stream is now shit.

>> No.23741065

>>23740758
Proof are her collabs where she doesn't prepare at all and it's completely uninterested while she's all happy hanging with e-celebs and grifters, using hololive to get to them and giving them a chance to shill their mediocre excuse of a podcast by using hololive. Even deadbeats hate how she's done this so blatantly.

>> No.23741079
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23741079

>Another "What went wrong <insert chuuba name/word used by chuuba>?" Thread
Is this your daily routine OP?

>> No.23741175

>>23741079
Anything to keep this place as the worst, most miserable board on 4chan.

>> No.23741228 [DELETED] 

>>23740790
Mori in a couple of months pretty much got BF confirmation, called her fans cucks and hinted drug use. If she was a nip she would've been erased completely.

>> No.23741337

>>23741175
/vt/ is not even close to that

>> No.23741348

>>23741065
That's some mighty fine schizobabble, anon, but it's not really "openly hating Hololive and idols."

>> No.23741350

>>23741175
Anon, this board or any other board will never surpass /r9k/ as the most miserable board.

>> No.23741381

>>23741036
I think she's finding her place. Not everyone gets there quickly (Miko and Watame are good examples). Going from 2 view to be part of hololive is an insane change.
She just needs to stick to it. Keep grinding and eventually she will improve. I think she's good and entertaining.

>> No.23741594

>>23741350
not with that attitude

>> No.23741696

>>23739815
The post that kills 99.9% of all rrats

>> No.23741744

>>23741175
It's not even as miserable as /tv/

>> No.23742499

>>23741381
Yeah, you're right. I'm sure she's gonna make it. But it's one of the cases where the schizos aren't really wrong in their complaining, she really is weak in collabs. Hopefully she'll get better. She's certainly not giving up on trying them, which is a good thing.

>> No.23742805

>>23741036
>she's always trying to please whoever she's together with
could you kindly elaborate, anon?
I rarely watch collab

>> No.23743085

>>23740880
So are you going to put an effort to disprove him or what?

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>>23737805
she said something about professionalism and been part of hololive, that triggered a lot of autist in 5ch, now she gets criticized with every mistakes she makes, i remember she fucked up in the splatoon collab with Laplus, Luna and Towa

>> No.23743945

>>23742805
Like trying to appeal to them too hard, to the point where it gets awkward. They'll throw her some tsukkomi bait and she'll just give the answer she thinks they wanted, when it's obvious they wanted her to just be herself, give the kind of answer she would give her chat, or play her character, or whatever. Instead she tends to lean on giving the answer her collab partner would give instead, which is just boring.

>> No.23744247

>>23743945
That's it? This is nothing compared to Mori's usual collab behaviour.

>> No.23744718
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>>23737805
Iroha Luv!!!!

>> No.23745126

she doesn't get invited to collaborations or she doesn't want to? it's been a long time since I've only seen collaborations between just the four girls, I had completely forgotten about her.

>> No.23745189

>>23744247
I'm just saying that she's weak in collabs, anon. It doesn't sound like a big deal because it isn't.

>> No.23745426

She needs to RFA marathon for 12 hours

>> No.23745465

>>23741744
What's wrong with /tv/?

>> No.23745576

>>23737975
That's the 5chan rrat, La Plus has a boyfriend too.

>> No.23746083

>>23741175
How is it that VTubers fans are seen as nu-bronies, but whenever I see the topic about the worst boards is brought up no one mentions /vt/ (except for, ironically, /vt/ users)?

>> No.23746182

>>23746083
Because other boards just manage to be even worse (/tv/, /v/, /pol/, modern /b/, /co/)

>> No.23746211

>>23745576
>5chan rrat
i mean if we go by 5chan everyone has a boyfriend/is married including me. i thought there was some hard evidence or something

>> No.23746327

>>23741175
>worst, most miserable board on 4chan
Have you ever visited another board before?
Hell, do you ever spent time outside of browsing the catalogue for shitposts and bait?

>> No.23746416

>>23746211
>including me
You do have a boyfriend you faggot

>> No.23746471

Honestly I just find her extremely boring. Her design, voice, and content put me to sleep.
She's like unoffensive Ikea furniture.
Just as it's some of the furniture of all time. Iroha is one of the vtubers of ALL TIME.

>> No.23746971

>>23737805
She's definitely the most enjoyable HoloX to watch solo, considering her hate comes from retards who think Mori is one of the best Holos, I don't take their opinions seriously.

>> No.23747066

>>23746211
Congratulations on your marriage anon, treat her good.

>> No.23747236

>>23746471
>Iroha is one of the vtubers of ALL TIME
True

>> No.23747253

>>23744247
The nips their opinion about Iroha is the same as this board's opinion about Mori. They think she ruins collabs just by being there. That's a fact.
The question is, why the fuck don't they complain about Mori's collabs with Jap members. Some of them were trainwrecks, most infamously the coco meme review.

>> No.23747552

>>23747253
I really disliked Mori's English learning stream with Laplus, Iroha and Gura. Mori tried too hard to be funny while the JPs just sat there being confused.

>> No.23747703

>>23737805
She is following Shizu Rin 's downfall: Too much FFXIV

>> No.23747735

>>23740502
so what faggot, its not like you have access to iroha YT analytic anyway, those number shown is all bullshit mostly

>> No.23747782

>>23741350
...second best?

>> No.23747866

>>23747253
>opinion about Iroha is the same as this board's opinion about Mori
and similar for Korone as well
> why the fuck don't they complain about Mori's collabs with Jap members
Because “Kari-Chan kakkoi”
That’s basically what it boils down to. She has earned their respect as a result of certain clips blowing up with regards to how she handles chat/superchat interactions and her mindset/thoughts on things.
I saw recently that there was even a 5ch post translated and screencapped that said something along the lines of “4chan’s dislike of Calli is unreasonable” or something like that. You have to understand their perspective. They do genuinely like and respect her and also do not want a repeat of what happened with Coco

>> No.23747935

Why would anyone hate iroha de gozaru

>> No.23748005

>>23747935
I feel like it's less of hating her and more of her just blending into the background so you forget that she's even there in the first place.

>> No.23748011

>>23747253
Because, they find her broken Japanese cute.

It's like asking why don't EOP'S hate Haachama as much as JOP's?

>> No.23748273

>>23747866
I think it's hilarious that some retards are unable to perceive the parallels.
>Board loves chuba that speaks a language that they, at worst, don't understand whatsoever and at best understand roughly but nowhere near native comprehension.
>Board intensely hates a chuba for reason that, when explained to an outsider, seem absolutely deranged and absurd.
It's like pottery.
>inb4 cuckbeat
I don't give a shit a fuck about mori. I don't enjoy her content whatsoever and find her really annoying. Actually, you know what, this is true in fact for every single EN member except for kiara, and that's because kiara has a Japanese soul. Your oshi is garbage and you are a weak quitter for choosing to give up on jo reps and watch garbage western bastardized anime. Go watch dubbed demon slayer, you piece of shit.

>> No.23748613

>>23748273
>you are a weak quitter for choosing to give up on jo reps
I haven’t given up. In fact, I’m JO right now.
I’m doing my reps

>> No.23748723

>>23748613
Based and cumpilled

>> No.23748965

So it was interesting watching Iroha's recent Subaru collab because of her collabing with Subaru in a PL. I believe there was someone else in HoloX that had this experience (Laplus and Shion)? How common is this actually?

>> No.23749970

>>23748273
Kiara having a Japanese soul, is a bizarre comment. Especially, considering most of her antis are Japanese.

>> No.23750080

>>23749970
They dislike her because, unlike the other ENs, they can understand her.
Also japs are extremely racist and dislike when non nips try to integrate to their society. But she has the same energy, rhythm, delivery and form as the JPmems.

>> No.23750300

>>23749970
Japanese hate western weebs but they're okay with female ones if they are able to fuck them, which Kiara wouldn't do.

>> No.23750362

>>23749970
Are they? I never realized that at all, I guess it explains why she hates working with the JP branch.

>> No.23750424
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Thoughts?

>> No.23750440

>>23750300
Actually km pretty sure it's the smelly incel kind of japs that are super based and racist. Same shit as here. I bet actual cool and forward thinking (for a nip) japs exist, since there's a lot of legit good literature/art made my japs constantly and I have a hard time believing a moe riddled ugly fuck who antis chubas on the internet has anything to do with that.

>> No.23750524

>>23750424
Chloe is moe incarnate and I want to beat her the fuck up. Like seriously hurt her and then take her for a nice walk probably have some cake. I'm so hard rn.

>> No.23750618

>>23749970
>>23750080
what are the main things she has said/done that made those Japanese antis dislike her

>> No.23751380

>>23750440
It goes deeper than that. Kiara's rm content is proof of it, ranging from being sexually assaulted by men she turned down and some random asshole riding a bicycle past her and her friend and telling her to fucking an hero. Even from personal experience when I used to hang out with JP international students, all smiles and super friendly in person but later find out from friends how much shit they talk about foreigners when among JP people even though they were the foreigners in another country.
>inb4 ywnbj

>> No.23751546

>>23751380
The Japanese are kinda shifty… hmmm…

>> No.23751605

>>23751380
That's one of the few truly admirable traits of the Japanese. The fact of the matter is you can't expect 99% of humans of any group to be intellectually capable of understanding what is needed for a good society and so it's true a lot of these nips are doing the right thing in a wrong way or for the wrong reasons but on the whole it ultimately does work for their good and the good of everyone else which is much better than the alternative you get with their equivalent NPC's in the West.

>> No.23752148

>>23751380
I mean yeah Japanese society is dogshit. If you watch anime/manga you have to be absolutely retarded not no notice how rotten a lot of it is.
Some parts of it ard pretty neat, but most of the Japanese that make actual art that we enjoy are at minimum critical of Japanese culture, and in extreme casases absolutely hate Japan. That's kind of the irony of the anime industry, much of the content is made by educated people who hate 90% of their audience.

>> No.23752201

>>23751546
It's not being shifty, it's just people take their cultural values with them wherever they go but the self aware ones know that when in Rome do as the Romans do. It would be kinda weird if they didn't. It's also one of the reasons why CN and Jews are so hated overseas.

>> No.23752207

>>23751605
What do you mean it works in their favor? They suicide a ton, so socially they are in terrible shape. They are not fucking, because they hate each other. Their economy and productivity are in constant decline since the 80s. Nothing about Japan is going well. I mean their are and cultural produce is 10/10,ill give them that.

>> No.23752250

>>23752207
>their are
Meant art.

>> No.23752270

>>23752207
Dude, Burgers have a higher suicide rate than Japan. When will this shit meme die?

>> No.23752331

>>23752148
Are you one of Mori's expat friends by any chance?

>> No.23752378

>>23752148
>much of the content is made by educated people who hate 90% of their audience.
I mean surely at most they just dislike the government policies and maybe the country, but not the people? I’m not even going to pretend to know anything about it one way or the other, but I’m just curious

>> No.23752404

>>23752270
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan
>In 2017, the country had the seventh highest suicide rate in the OECD, at 14.9 per 100,000 persons,[5] and in 2019 the country had the second highest suicide rate among the G7 developed nations.
Please don't source me an obscure right wing news article clearly written by a bot, anon, I'm too old for that shit.

>> No.23752574

>>23752148
>educated people who hate 90% of their audience
I don't think that's exclusive to anime, seems to be the case in every creative medium.

>> No.23752607

>>23752270
It’s not just some “shit meme” you dumbfuck

>> No.23752633

>>23750618
Her NND history of being a dumb white high schooler trying to make it on a Japanese social media platform. This continued with her moving to Japan and trying to be an irl idol. Basically, a lot of yabs due to youthful ignorance and misplaced confidence as a result of how quickly she mastered the language.

Some, of her NND antis followed her to Hololive, but since she moved back to Austria they've moved on, for the most part.

>> No.23752632

>>23752378
It's not about hating the people per se. Som people are good. But they have some very horrible customs, most of them are predicated on being absolutely fake and pleasant all the time. You know that fake ass bitch from whenever? They all have to be like that. And that is rooted in a lot of historical baggage and branches into a ton of other shit, for instance the pretty well known custom of having to stay at the office pretending to work if you boss or sempai is still working.
I mean a lot of japs hate most of this shit, and usually we are exposed to somewhat rebellious japs that are making art.
>>23752331
No, I'm not retarded so I don't need to go to Japan, I'm just able to pick up the subtext (and sometimes literal text) of their media that I enjoy. Those expats are literal retards who ate into the idea that many here have than Japan is a anime dreamland, and when there were faced with the reality that its an extremely oppressive and pretty racist society, onions their life there is usually miserable unless they can opt out of working there.

>> No.23752661

>>23737805
Nothing. WTF is the problem?

>> No.23752719

Let's see, it went from Amelia to Lui to haachama to moona and now to this girl who's name I forgot... Keep going anon, you're doing GREAT!

>> No.23752777

>>23752148
Wow, liberals in Japan also think the majority of their local population should be gassed. That must say something about Japan being bad and not liberals who feel the same way about their local population in every country.

>> No.23752781

>>23752607
>muh Japanese suicide rate is really big, Jake Paul wouldn't lie to me, bro.
Japan's social problems are vastly overstated by dumbass gaijins who've even been there.

>> No.23752790

>>23752633
>haters keep hating
such is life

>> No.23752864

>>23752207
I mean, Japan is likely to die a dog's death but if they do it will be because they finish their transformation into your shithole society. The things they still possess that your society lost are the reason they still have a chance for recovery, it's a slim chance but it's better than nothing.

>> No.23752903

>>23752574
Yes, society is often shit everywhere. I live in a big western city and there's a ton of things about my culture I am critic about, and even further the masses are very stupid everywhere. That said k think Japanese society is worse for individual people and their overall health than most western societies. Aside from I wanna emphasize that I love Japanese culture. I am learning Japanese, I have been reading Manga since I was a boy, and I really like their folk and a ton of their traditions. But I think it's important to don't be mindlessly oblivious to some things. It's the same with the "loli situation". Being kind of a pedo is fucked up the west. It just is, we were raised like that. It's beyond gross. But for nips it's only somewhat gross, and tolerable. Therefore loli/shota shit is okay/not offensive when in Japanese media. This is common sense to any reasonable person. Shit needs to be be analized and understood in context.

>> No.23752935

>>23752781
OK
also
Japan’s positives are overstated by dumbass gaijins who have never even been there

>> No.23752986

>>23752781
Suicide is still a problem btw

>> No.23753000

>>23752632
Gaijin complaining about Japanese work standards prove they've never had a real job before. Those problems exist everywhere and just like every other country, Japan has plenty of people who have escaped that system. But so far humanity hasn't figured out any solution for ideal working conditions other than letting a few generations suffer so their descendants can have it better, your life is good because your ancestors lives sucked.

>> No.23753035

>>23752781
I literally linked a very well sourced and documented article; many of the sources are japanese. The Japanese wiki has the same info. How does being or not in Japan relates to knowing how many people off themselves? Do you have some kind of geopolitical border-bounded omniscience?

>> No.23753064

She looks like discounted Ame.

>> No.23753172

>>23737805
I don't watch her so can someone tell me her appeal? I know she's built like an athlete and can probably sex for 30 hrs straight but other than that and her formal speech pattern what else does she offer in a social setting i.e. collab?

>> No.23753233

>>23752903
Pedos are worshipped in the West, the West is against loli/shota in anime because media is their primary tool to brainwash the public and they don't like media that is made outside their labs. The concept that people can consume media and not act out on what it depicts is foreign to them because they literally make media with the idea in mind it will alter behaviors and thought patterns in those who watch and generally they are proven right.

>> No.23753250

>>23753000
No, dude, it's literally particularly bad in Japan. It's also pretty serious in USA. There's hard numbers on this kind of shit, you mongoloid. Most of europe is doing kinda okay, particularly Germany.
That said, I agree that being a wage slave is shit in every country. But in Japan is more brutal than in other places. I mean it's probably worse in China or some other uncivilized niggerholes, but that doesn't make Japan good. And of course some people escape the system, how does that contradict any thing I said?

>> No.23753295

>>23753233
touch grass

>> No.23753340

>>23753233
Bro that you are blackpilled into thinking that every waelthy westerner is a pedophile does not equate to pesos being worshipped. Even if you were right about them being pedos (unlikely, you lot seem beyond deranged) the populous that worships them is absolutely ignorant about said pedophilia, therefore they do now worship pedophiles, they worship millionaires that happen to do pedophiles. Try some logic reps, if you do enough you'll find yourself out of /pol/ by free will in no time.

>> No.23753397

Her voice is way too off putting and it somehow reminds me of polka I don't hate them but I'm not really a fan of their voice.

>> No.23753410

>>23753233
Japanese society still has pedophiles and serial killers you retard.
So much for your theory on “The Media”
If you give a fuck look up what happened to Junko Furuta

>> No.23753498

>>23753250
Because you paint this problem as somehow unique to Japan out of your hateboner for the place when it is literally completely unrelated to Japan. I have never heard a single person ever make one complaint about Japan that has anything to do with Japan and instead it's always something that reveals the person complaining has never had to live a life like the majority of humanity and is out-of-touch with daily struggle. Every single thing some bitch-made gaijin or self-hating Japanese ever complains about is something normal people just deal with everywhere but these faggots have such a high view of themselves they have to pretend it's somehow special to them and that it's this one place's fault for not being perfect. I don't hear a story about a man working himself to death and think, "oh wow, this is Japan's fault, Japan must change" because I'm not a fucking retard.

>> No.23753525

>>23752935
What positives are overstated?

I've had a great time visiting Japan as a tourist, but there's cultural, social and personal reasons why I could never see myself living there.

>> No.23753535

>>23737805
NIN NIN

>> No.23753574

>>23753340
>no these people I worship can't be pedophiles! you must be wrong! but even if you're not, I'm in the right for choosing to stay ignorant and thus having an excuse
Nice cope.

>> No.23753615

>>23737805
dead gozaru

>> No.23753627

>>23753574
Tell me who these people I worship are.

>> No.23753671

>>23753410
>Wow, I know how to change this person's mind about Japan so he also hates it. Bring up something everyone in the world knows intimately about. I bet he's never considered that!
Do you even put a second of thought into your hateful tirade? None of this says anything that can't be said about your worthless shithole of a home.

>> No.23753748

>>23753498
I don't know what to tell you man, perhaps you live in a shit hole as bad or worse than Japan but I live in Latin amirca and I guarantee you things are not as bad here.
also, again, there's hard numbers on this: avg number of working hours; productivity/hour; etc.
So while the issue of wage slavism is not unique to Japan, the Japanese culture of suckling your superiors dick until you drop dead makes it worse than some other places. Again, data on this shit. Also I was discussing Japanese culture and related issues: they are racist, fake, and are obligated to prostrate to anyone superior (and anyone who is not inferior is superior; peers are almost non existent). This does not mean other countries are not racist, or otherwise retarded.

>> No.23753776

>>23753498
"Death by overwork" is not a thing in the west, you disingenuous fuck. People just leave jobs where they can't handle the hours. Leaving a job because of bad hours is taboo in Japan.
And no, I don't care what sob story you find of a 62-year-old flower gardener in Arizona falling over dead on the job from untreated diabetes or whatever.
>>23753671
you will never be Japanese

>> No.23753789

>>23753525
>What positives are overstated?
Are you new to 4chan
> I've had a great time visiting Japan as a tourist,
that’s good, and most people are content with that. But like I said, are you new? Nigga, weebs on this site aspire to move there because of anime, all the while being entirely misinformed and unprepared for starting a life there. That’s what I meant about the positives being overstated in response to that other anon who said “social problems are being overstated by gaijins” or whatever

>> No.23753926

>>23748273
Women are just generally more pleasant when you don't understand what they're saying.

>> No.23753932

You always pop up, people weirdly defensive/in denial about Japan's shit. I'm curious, is the idea of going to Japan your only cope and therefore just can not tolerate criticism towards your dreamland? I hope this is true, because you deserve that kind of future. This kind of people always remind me that ajatt grifter, Matt I think he's called? He was one of this retards, coped extremely hard, went to Japan and crashed bad. He then spent a decaded being and angry deppresed amircan. Dude is so fucking retarded. How the fuck can you watch Japanese shit for years and be oblivious to how shitty life is there?

>> No.23754003

>>23737805
omae no atama ga went wrong de gozaru

>> No.23754051

>>23753789
I agree, but that's what /jp/ is for. Weebs arguing Japan good/bad while never having been there is just stupid.

>> No.23754106

>>23753748
What does any of your average numbers have to do with fuck all. Oh boy, I saw this statistic about some people in this place vs. some people in this place and my conclusion is all the people in this place suck and the ones in this other place are good. Fuck you retard.

You can do this shit anywhere in the world. You're not going to find a single major country on this planet without any slavery and yet you don't go blaming the countries for that, do you? I mean maybe you are that retarded. Have you ever noticed the people complaining about Japanese salaryman jobs specifically are never salarymen? Have you ever noticed that every person who has to work for a living complains about their job while dreaming of some other job they would like?

>> No.23754130

>>23753789
>weebs here
They deserve everything. I have no sympathy for people that retarded.
I think I should, again, reiterate that there's plenty beautiful about japan: culture is neat, art is top tier, moe is delicious, their food is super good, and their house plan is fucking sick. Having the toilet separated from the bath is a 10/10 gigabrain move, and the genkan is fucking great and we all should have that in our houses. I also unironically and earnestly really like chubas and otaku media. It's great! Also I think it's nice they are polite, even tho it stems from very severely enforced fakeness.

>> No.23754216

>>23754051
>>23753932
You retards actually think people defending Japan have never been there. It's pathetic that you can't just admit different people want something else from Japan than what you want. Not everyone wants it to be New York but with yellow people. Even the stuff every outsider looks at and says "I like this in Japan" would not exist if they enacted all the changes you want them to. The reason the place you live sucks so much is because people are like you and not like the Japanese.

>> No.23754253

>>23753498
>>23753498
But there are problems unique to Japan, anon
For example: There’s an idea engrained over there even these days that you ought only work for one company your whole life, even if it’s some shitty “black company”
Whereas people here (the west generally) usually leave shit companies. Just one example
also not denying that we have our own problems that are basically the same, anon. It’s humanity.

>> No.23754295

>>23754051
>never being there
This kind of argument is so retarded. Do you think a geologist has to take a swim in hot lava in order to know his shit? That in order to get your medical licence you need to get aids? Do you think that if you live a few years in a place, that automatically makes you aware and savvy about every aspect of socioeconomic issues? Is like your fucking aunt an expert in your culture and every single issue and intricacy pertinent? Cos mine sure isn't, she's a fucking wagie that has no idea about anything other than that which exists in a 10m radius around the literal space she moves across.

>> No.23754303

Japanese people are so insincere and not genuine, i don’t know how you can trust anyones words in that shithole.

>> No.23754314

>>23754253
>Oh wow, every single person in Japan has never left their job and all of their jobs suck. That's ridiculous. I should hate a whole country over that lie. Good thing there's not a single person like this anywhere outside of Japan to throw a wrench into my irrational hatred!

>> No.23754330

>>23753671
I’m not trying to change your mind about Japan. You just need a realistic perspective. Nigger
>hateful tirade
Go back and read your tirade you fucking moron. You sound fucking insane
>” media is their primary tool to brainwash the public and they don't like media that is made outside their labs”

>> No.23754378
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23754378

>I am Samurai not Ninja
>Jump King
Are the only two things I remember
about her. She didn't try hard to build a following like the Hawk hag diid

>> No.23754382

>>23754303
>Women and femine men are so insincere and not genuine, i don’t know how you can trust anyones words in this shithole.
Correct.

>> No.23754505

>>23754330
I have a more grounded perspective than you, if I want to listen to spew your filth I can go literally anywhere that Japan is ever mentioned. From practical experience I know it's all lies but even if it were true, it's irrational that you spend all this time hating Japan specifically if not for some larger political reason. It's far more charitable for me to assume that you are doing this because you are mad other people like Japan than that you are actually so stupid you think Japan is the one country in the world that needs to be taken down a peg.

>> No.23754543

>>23754106
They have a lot to do, they are hard facts that tell you that slaves in germany are in slave mode for literally 2.5 less time on average. And yes I blame the countries. Who do you want me to blame? God? A billionaire? An Estate makes policy and enforces it, and the populace is responsable for legitimizing or overthrowing a state. I don't blame individual japs, they are okay, but their culture teaches them to suck dick all day every day until the day and retarded autists here better be aware of that (and that they will be fucking abhorred for being gaijin niggers, even if they are blind and have blue eyes, ask kiara about this) when they go there high on copium.

>> No.23754554

>>23746211
You fucking whore

>> No.23754576

>>23754303
This

>> No.23754646

>>23741744
/tv/'s moderation activity seems to have gone up. There are threads about movies there now.

>> No.23754754

>>23754216
>New York but with yellow people
Tokyo
> etc etc etc .. would not exist if they enacted all the changes you want them to
Who in this thread is even advocating for specific changes to Japanese society? I see problems being pointed out, that’s about it
It’s as if you’re arguing with someone in your head. Some retard’s take you read on Twitter is just stuck in your mind or something. I have no issue criticizing the society I live in, or South African society, or German society, or Japanese society

>> No.23754786

>>23754543
I was talking about slaves, as in people that are owned by other people. Not those who get wages, but yes, those sorts of slaves too. I guess slavery is okay if it's less intensive.

You should take a step back and really examine how pathetic you are for justifying your hatred for a country by saying it's what you need to do for the sake of [this plausible group of weebs that may not exist but if they did you hate them too]. It's clear you are actually upset when one of those people actually finds out Japan is even better than they imagined and take delight if they find out they hate it.

>> No.23754873

>>23754754
New York is a fucking shithole and you know it. Tokyo is not the best of Japan but it's better than any equivalent large city in the West that's for sure.

You don't publicly complain about something everyone else complains about unless you want that public pressure to enact changes. You aren't complaining about every bad thing happening everywhere in the world, you are complaining about the same dumb shit that's none of your business that your faggot e-celebs complain about. How's about talking about the problems where you live that you could make better instead. Fucking asshole.

>> No.23754908

>>23754314
>” I should hate a whole country over that”
I don’t hate a country over a societal issue they face. Why are you this retarded
Are you ever critical of anything related to Japan

>> No.23754942

>>23754908
Yes, I'm critical of Japan a lot. I think their choice of white monkeys reflects poorly on them and they will pay a price for it in the long run.

>> No.23754973

>>23754378
Stop shit posting using my wife, fag

>> No.23755052

>>23754786
What is even your point? Yeah slaves are bad. We're not talking about slaves in Africa, or China, or in mertoplotian western citys. For instance I live in a western xorty and it is know there are literally sweatshops with literally stolen people from neighboring countries. If we were discussing sociatal issues in my country I would have probably brought that up. But it's not the case. In my country the average life expentsncy for a trans woman is 30 years old. That's beyond fucked. But, again, absolutely unrelated to a discussion about Japanese sociatal issues.
>your hatred against a country
Anon, again: please do some thinking reps. I clarified two times, I don't hate Japan. I really like it, overall. I am being critic of things there. That also doesn't mean that I'm not critic of bad shit elsewhere. I actually feel like you are well intended but just very bad at logical thinking. Have you ever had your iq tested? Is it lower than 105? Asking honestly, not trolling you.

>> No.23755140

>>23755052
>well intended
Well intentioned*
This shit fried half my braincells. I'm out, the people I'm discussing with are absolutely deranged. Keep coping, I don't know, good for you if it makes your life easier.

>> No.23755173

>>23754505
>I have a more grounded perspective than you
You don’t
You sound unhinged and defensive

>> No.23755191

>>23755052
Why do you think it's your job to shit on people who you've never met? Why does your moral policing only extend to things that don't require you to be a better person? There's no society on this planet that would be better by having you a member of it, so why do you feel god made you judge of everyone else?

>> No.23755243

>>23755173
I can't help that you are out-of-touch with the real world. Your nonsense doesn't sound reasonable to anyone who gets their knowledge from experience rather than what they are told to think.

>> No.23755264

>>23754973
>my wife
go get laid for real, nerd

>> No.23755291

>>23753172
Not much, she's just being nice and kind of bland. The criticism is overblown on message boards though, as usual.

>> No.23755327

>>23754873
>You aren't complaining about every bad thing happening everywhere in the world
Because that’s not what this board’s discussion is primarily adjacent to, nor is it where the conversation of this thread went. If the conversation was about Brazil, that’s what we would be discussing.
What should we “complain” about next then if that’s all you want?

>> No.23755332

>>23754314
>defending to the death a shitty country that would hate you if you lived there
You are such a monumental faggot it's painful. That other anon hit the nail on the head: Japan is your coping mechanism for how shitty your life is now.

>> No.23755410

>>23754942
>I'm critical of Japan a lot.
On what?

>> No.23755462

>>23755243
I do not believe that you have ever lived in Japan
Also, I have just fucked your mother

>> No.23755796

>>23755462
If the only people whose opinions on Japan are valid are people who have lived there, then why stop there? Why not people who have never lived anywhere else? Oh wait, but then it would be invalid for them to compare Japan to anywhere else. So I guess the only people who can have a valid opinion on this by default are the sort of scum that drift from place to place and feel at home anywhere and nowhere. Yes, their opinion seems the most useful for shaping the standards of human society around because they reflect the baseline experience we want every human to have.

>> No.23755841

>>23755410
On boards with people who are sharing their own thoughts rather than those they regurgitate what they heard from some other dipshit.

>> No.23755881

>>23737805
she needs to play more games where shotas get raped like monmusu quest

>> No.23755957

>>23755796
So you have never lived there
I see…

>> No.23756105

>>23755332
I live in a country that you retards gush over as a paradise and have been doing so my entire life. I absolutely fucking despise this shithole and do indeed resent you faggots for defending it but at the end of the day, it's not really your business, you don't have to live here. Why should you care how bad it is? My time in Japan was so much better than life is here it was a night and day difference. There was not a meaningful thing worse over there and many things better. And yet, even if I hated Japan, I would still defend it because I'm not actually concerned on if I would like it there. I'm more concerned with keeping you from turning it into just another shithole that already exists. I would do the same for any country I've never heard of to countries I don't even like. It's just you don't attack them. If everyone on this site hated East Timor as much as they hate Japan, I'd start learning about East Timor and defending them too.

>> No.23756118

>>23755841
You said you’re “critical of Japan a lot”.
I meant, of what? Sounds like you’re never critical

>> No.23756138

>>23755841
I know you are stupid and uneducated but still i find this type of argument very amusing. You really think you dont relly on the shared knowledge of society? How did you first now it was safe to ride an elevator? Did you literally invent cooking and every single meal you ever made? I find it very erai that you literally invented the english language. And that idea that all leftiest are just regurgitating jew propaganda? 100% your original idea. Nobody else on the internet thinks like that. You are the ultimate freethinker.

>> No.23756222

>>23756105
You dont seem to understand that a place being great does not logically imply that every single individual living there will be just happy, nor the inverse. Your anecdotal evidence is... adectotal evidence. One last time: do your fucking logical thinking reps.
You never answered about your iq. It really is bellow 100, isn't it? Just go ahead and say it. I would respect you more.

>> No.23756356

>>23756222
You have no respect for humans you fucking parasite. I'd have more respect for you if you fucking blew up yourself and took the rest of your family with you.

>> No.23756461

>>23756138
You do realize these things aren't equivalent at all, right? I hope you aren't this stupid. I know which things that I've been taught are true and false based on experiencing them for myself. Of course there are things I have been taught that I will never experience but I don't make judgements on those things. Will I ever get to experience if space is real or not? No. So I'm not going to stake my life on either option. It's literally irrelevant to my day-to-day. I don't need to cling to someone else's authority or testimony to make claims about shit that's none of my concern.

>> No.23756528

Who cranked up the autism meter for this thread too high?

>> No.23756547

>>23756105
And you yourself are a retard who gushes over Japan as if it is a paradise
There assuredly are Japs out there who feel the exact same way about Japan, as you do about your own country:
>”I absolutely fucking despise this shithole and do indeed resent you faggots for defending it”

>> No.23756671

>>23756105
So you’ve only ever visited as a tourist and never actually lived and worked over there

>> No.23756835

>>23756461
Of course I realize this, i'm not the one that holds a literally medieval perception of the world. Please go to school. Most countries have some form of free program for adults who didn't finish highschool.

>> No.23756879

>>23756528
ikr right there's an anon literally saying that he only believes in that which he can physically experience. He probably thinks atoms are jew propaganda
most retarded shit i've seen all day

>> No.23756899

>>23756356
not an argument, you didn’t address his point

>> No.23756945

>>23756528
Sorry bro, I used 1% of my power and it was too much

>> No.23757023

>>23754378
This story of hers is related to the derailed discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI5PbTQOzpE

>> No.23757031

>>23756547
Yes, and in a utopian world, me and those Japs could swap places. But we don't live in that world and that is fine with me. I'm not defending Japan for them, I'm defending it for everyone else. It's also worth noting you're just blatantly fucking lying, I have never painted Japan as a paradise nor would I. I explicitly love parts of Japan that I know you would hate because you like things about my country that I fucking hate. I'm simply calling out you xenophobic pieces of shit who won't stop shitting on Japan as if your opinion matters. I have never put forward that they are actually Heaven on Earth but simply disagreed with your assessment they are Hell on Earth. Stop sticking your nose where it doesn't belong and the world would be a better place.

>> No.23757098

>>23756879
Are you saying atomic bombs are not propaganda? What is your evidence for this exactly? Someone told you and you just believed them? And now other people should just believe what you say even though you don't know it yourself? Amazing.

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>find yabless chuuba
>try hard to find literally anything you can complain about her for
>can't find shit cause she's squeaky clean
>start making up baseless rrats cause you literally have nothing else
>pretend like you really hate her
>shit your pants
The worst thing you can say about Iroha is that she's boring. Now we just have to wait until she makes an easily misinterpreted nothingburger like Ina did, so that all these faggots can swarm around her 24/7 like the shit eating pests that they are

>> No.23757334

>>23757031
>your assessment they are Hell on Earth
And where in this thread did anyone put forward that assessment?

>> No.23757378

>>23757321
They make it seem like everyone else hates her, I don't care what they think but I do hope the other Holomems actually get along with Iroha. It's kinda hard to tell. Like if all of HoloX ranked their favorite genmates would any of them put Iroha above 4?

>> No.23757384

>>23757031
Anon I was very mean to you this thread. I'm sorry. I'm sorry you have to live as a bellow 100iq individual. No one should live like that. It's absolutely brutal. I can't even imagine how constantly confused about all sort of things you must be. It is really sad. And to make matter worse you seem to live in a civilized country, which probably means being bellow average stupid is a huge debuff. I'm in the mensa range and find 90% beyond retarded. To think that you are bellow the global average.... I can't even begin relating. I'm terribly sorry. Shit I just realize most media rely on the audience being capable of logical thinking to a elementary degree. That must be brutal. Is that why you like chubas? You probably only watch jp, even tho you don't speak the language and are not doing an effort towards learning it. The pretty colors and cute noises must be fun, and you are not burdened with the very confusing thing that is human language. I am honestly glad we live in an age in which this form of entertainment is available to people like you. After all you didn't ask to be born, you didn't ask to be stupid but not stupid enough to be considered disabled and put into care. I'm truly so sorry. I hope you can reincarnate as a Japanese girl. They have a great time, Japanese girls.

>> No.23757425

>>23757321
Why does koyori looks so rape-y?

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>>23757425
Wdym

>> No.23757574

>>23757469
No koyo please I'll be a good joshkun I'll get right back to those ED reps please don't hurt me I am not serious koyori you can rape me all day, take me fucking apart I don't even care

>> No.23757770

>>23757378
To be fair she's probably the least interesting of the bunch, she's more or less just a really cute and well behaved normal girl, so she doesn't stand out next to all those bombastic genmates of hers. Weird for someone like that to become a chuuba, but at least she covers a niche

>> No.23757882

>>23757384
KEK
Good post.

>> No.23758271

>>23757384
At least you have a sense of humor about your mental malfunction. I can appreciate that.

>> No.23758347

>>23757770
There's lots of Holos that get overshadowed but you have to hope all of them have at least someone who cares about them. While the majority of vtuber fans ignore Sora for example and wouldn't consider a good entertainer, I can always take comfort in knowing Miko is in love with her. I just hope Iroha has someone like that because I disagree with the assessment she is the least memorable in even HoloX but I'm aware all the other members have other people in the company they are very connected with.

>> No.23758829

>>23758347
You're making it sound worse than it is, all her genmates unanimously like her. She's doing fine.
Also, I haven't watched her in a while, but didn't she use to be pretty close with Lapu?

>> No.23758875

>>23757321
Say that to the JP faggots at 5ch. Fucking nips with shit taste.

>> No.23758973

>>23737805
I love her R-18 MMDs.

>> No.23759569

this is a gozaru thread you fuckers, wtf are you retards even arguing about stfu

>> No.23759766

>>23758347
I care, de gozaru. luv nin nin

>>23758829
They used to live near each other so they off-collabed with some regularity until La+ moved

>> No.23759824

Damn this is uh, one of the threads that have ever happened
Mucho texto
I just wanted to stop by and say I think Irohas adorable and im glad shes in hololive
Sometimes plain and ordinary is really what hits the spot

>> No.23759874

>>23758829
The entire claim against Iroha is that Holomems don't get along with her and that is why retarded JP's don't like her. My point was I don't care if the JP's don't like her, but I hope they are wrong about the Holomems. It takes zero effort to show the relationships the other HoloX have with many people in Holo, with Iroha it's much harder. I'm not saying she has no one, I'm saying I hope she doesn't but I can't tell.

>> No.23760384

>>23759824
I like that HoloX has a token good girl even as an evil secret society full of heels and maniacs.

>> No.23761576

>not a single mention of the blonde curse
This is how I know none of you fags are actual numberfags who unironically care.
The same with the thread about haachama too, this thread is filled with seething nijiniggers who are too afraid to even say anything in /#/ because they will be btfo the moment they think about breaking their lurk status
The absolute state of nijiniggers is just sad, reminder than they only won a single gold or maybe two in April (Hal won you fucking fags, not kuzukek)

>> No.23764304

>>23747735
holy esl
neck yourself, shitskin

>> No.23764677

>>23751380
>nip international students
Same experiences, in several different countries.
Japs keep to their own at the end of the day and don't like attempts by others that try to be a little "too japanese". Tourists are fine. Expats that work in Tokyo and don't even bother learning the language are also fine as they're seen as transitory like tourists. Marry a jap and live in Japan, hoooo boy. You can try as you might but they don't like long term foreigners, especially longtermers that try to "integrate". Suspicion for any event will fall on you no matter how obviously innocent you are. Look up how jap police routinely and specificslly target foreigners.
This is the natural state of all peoples. globohomo ideals and the lie of "civic nationalism" pushed by the americans has only served to erode this societal defence mechanism in western nations. The whole rest of the world plays by the old standard rules, and the angloids and other caucasoids are slowly finding out just why this tribal mentality has been the default since time immemorial. It's too late for them, however.

>> No.23765064

>>23746327
i hate to admit it but this is me, eating all the bait all day. what are other boards that are good?

>> No.23766412

>>23740442

Whats exactly is wrong with her participating in collabs? I thought she was often the quiet and most reserved one.

>> No.23766815

>>23765064
go back leddit troon

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>>23737805
>de gozaru

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