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previous >>23703077

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>>23710336
Nijisanji has a surplus of money in their war chest, but they aren't gonna be able to afford hiring people for a game/project development, so the next best thing is to invest into their talents. How? By viewfarming to persuade investors to buy their stocks. The rest of the money goes to Konami so that they are able to make a shitty profit mobage for nijis.

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>yashiro 15k
Vampire Survivors still attracting this big of an audience is amusing

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The calm before the storm

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Is this Mori's timeslot now? It's 9AM EST, 6AM PST, NA is either at work/school or asleep, but her primary audience is NA isn't it? Even Kiara's early streams are later so that people can at least throw her up on a second monitor

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>>23710624
Mori...

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>>23710624
not for Mori tho

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>>23710560
Investors can ask for their real numbers though, they are not as stupid as Riku

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Ah, peace

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>>23710624
At least both yashiro and furen didn't get the worm. Furen is debatable.

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SNEK GOLD AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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This is what Youtube offer me to watch.
Would you choose More from all of this?

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>>23710560
I'm out off the loop here, why Konami?

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>>23710699
But lewd ?

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https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1522184363991048192
Fantasia, the niji concert that had to be canceled because of the coof, is now going to be part of Nijifes

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>>23710666
Investors are some the the stupidest sapes on the planet.
>>23710430
Oof

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>>23710560
Why do people keep saying this?
They had a surplus a quarter ago.
In theonths since then, they lost a lot on Nijifest being pushed back, invested in the 3D and more ads, all those new costumes/3D models and a few of new shows on the main channel.

They had a surplus in Q3 because they were saving up for Nijifest which would have cost a few million $ to hold.
That's why immediately after, Deron and Toya said money was short for Nijisanji.

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>>23710742
I'd rather go take a shit and wait for Kaela to stream that League rhythm game.
t. not Indog

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>>23710753
Based, I’m expecting a great show.

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>>23710699
Yes, astally anon says, if there is confirmation of a higher peak, he considers it.
>>23710749
Post anything of PC you can find.

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>>23710765
ogey

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Is powerpro supposed to have graphs like Apex?

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>>23710742
Will Flare ever stop leeching?

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>>23710882
Nothing is supposed to have periodic 10g drops, no.

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>>23710882
it has spikes during actual games, since like 70% of the game is fucking ui management

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>>23710882
Either Kaneki got Internet problem or YouTube is fucked beyond repair.

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>>23710699
Miosha won though

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>>23710743
Konami likes Nijisanji. Anycolor is in the same building as Konami. Konami developed mobages before.

>>23710792
We had numbers, and it shows $15M as net profit. I would place the talent's words as low priority when the facts are there. It's just hard to believe they squandered $15M in over 3 months.

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>>23710938
what was Migo doing all the time then?

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>>23710922
this group was supposed to have more collabs since they formed it during ARK, but then kanata got the coof right after and was out for 2 months, they are picking it back up

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>>23710844
Well, there's youtube's official number.

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>>23710964
I checked, the very first drop was him leaving to get food and putting his default thumbnail thing on screen, but I couldn't find reasons for the other drops, no one in chat was spamming guruguru or anything.

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>>23710922
Isn't she leeching form THE leech, so it should be fine, at least in my book.

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>>23710742
Damn kson is building Freedom Gundam?!

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Holoendoingfine bros, what is this?

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>>23710989
>Anycolor is in the same building as Konami.
Thanks for clearing that up

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>>23710989
They didn't, but the quarter was worse off than it would've been and budgets are done with funds allocated a d expected, and the shortfall was probably an issue short-term.

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What's the lowest a non ID holo got on VS ?

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>>23710699
>>23710844
>>23710976
>both vrabi and vstat did not track her
>beaten by mio on live rank
But then 45k was her peak
Is this going to be hal kuzuha situation? O Prism 1st ever gold and maybe the only gold they will ever get?!

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>>23710535
Yugo 1K waiting in 25 mins.
It will be at 20K.

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>>23711131
>the only thing she's beating is a zatsu in the sc part

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>>23711168
>Is this going to be hal kuzuha situation?
only if retards like you keep giving shitposters attention

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>>23711131
vs is a debuff REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>wake up
>IRyS didn't hit 10k despite having the entire timeslot to herself and it was RE2
What in the absolute fuck happened to her

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>>23711168
Not the fucking botted stream

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I swear the guy wasn't in the thumbnail previously... Reimu, why.. I'll treat you better.

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>>23711221
Botted streams are allowed in the tally.

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>>23711039
520k vod? Jesus how many bots were there.

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>>23711131
Who is the rank #5th?

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>>23711168
I swear if you motherfuckers insist on trying to defend an absolutely 100% case of botting this thread has lost its fucking mind, this isn't even like the fucking wormed streams

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>>23711236
Easy views.

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>>23711131
See >>23710650. Mori may have discovered a worse timeslot than Kiara’s or overlapping on Ina’s. Also, it seems like she found a way to suck at VS.

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>>23711236
EN GOLD

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>>23711257
It’s only showing 92k for me, which is still absurd.

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KING ENTER!
KING ENTER!
KING ENTER!

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>>23711223
censored JP version with JP dub
double debuff she was at like 9.6k before everyone realized it was censored

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>>23711168
It's a meme addition anyway, because we know fuckery was going on, but might as well go all the way and use the confirmed numbers we have.

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>>23711223
Censored JP dub.

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>>23711267
This was allowed in the tally, and it's not a worm.

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>>23711250
kys

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>>23711236
Is luxiem the accessory to boost the NijiEN girls.........?!

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>>23711294
I literally, literally can't think of a worse timeslot for her. It's early morning/start of work for NA, late for JP and you have all the overlap. EU doesn't matter. Why?

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>>23711168
don't think anyone cares about Prism enough to start a timeloop over a 100% botted gold.

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>>23711131
>Same 20k Elden Ring virewers as always
I see nothing wrong

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>One hour apart
>All horror in JST primetime

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>>23711334
>>23711334
>Censored
I forget that Irys is literally fucking retarded. Like holy shit even Mori got the uncesnored one for RE8. Also isn't English allowed for RE2 or did something change with permissions?

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>>23711385
what the fuck do you mean anon, there's some anons that are clearly being really obtuse about this because they're interested in the gold not going to anyone that actually matters

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>>23711401
no the only one that aren't allowed are 4 and 8, 2 should be fine for english

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>>23711316
>pawapuro
not breaking 30k

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How about just gives the gold to snake girl but post Mio lewd instead ? Win win situation. Prism gets the meme gold, we get Mio lewd

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This is amusing as fuck, did they made a coop version of Vampire survivors?
>watch stream!
kekkou desu

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>>23711508
no

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I don't know if you guys noticed, but for the past few days during Gura's break, NijiEN goes their way on using Gura's timeslot. But on the scheduled day where Gura is coming back, all of them aren't taking the timeslot kek. Too bad for them, Gura isn't even coming tomorrow.

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>>23711508
haha, go kys

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>>23711236
Too late, this is the path she chose

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>>23711527
those are buff numbers for yashiro but that's really high for furen

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>>23711527
nips wants to see who gets shitty luck on the hardest area

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* ongoing streams top 10 on vrabi *
Stacked day, golden week is no joke, is it?

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>>23711168

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How the fuck are you retards still arguing about putting a blatantly botted/bugged stream on the fucking list? Are you guys really this retarded?

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>>23710650
>>23711294
>>23711371
and there are still anons crying out for holoEU when this timeslot in english peforms like trash
and i say that as a eurofag who likes this timeslot the most, its just not good and i dont expect to be catered to when im obviously very much a minority

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>>23711613
It was your 15 minutes of fame

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>>23711613
Don't tell me she unironically believes that was a real deal number.

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>>23711667
youtube analytics or are you going to admit that gura's vod is also botted?

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>youtube didn't detect it as bots
>we have the OFFICIAL youtube peak number
If this doesn't go on the tally, the tally is officially a joke and no amount of coping will change this fact.

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>>23711703
Anon she spent the whole stream saying it can't be real

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>>23711729
>randomly brings up gura

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Korean cosplay thots reacting to Hololive on Twitch kek, is this meta going full circle?
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1473822278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqKXVUziEd0

Two views tho

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>>23711730
this whole thread and obsession with numbers has always been a joke since msst people here would blatantly ignore the numbers infront of them

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>>23711667
I don't really see why not. Just add a disclaimer, note, or something. We are not yet at the point where this kind of thing is widely spread and all over the place

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>>23711703
It’s jork

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>>23711703
she acknowledges in the replies to the tweet that she knows its fuckery of some sort, whether bots or bugs, but its a funny story and experience

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>>23711730
if anything including it seriously actually makes it even more of a joke and you being this fucking obtuse about it makes you a shitter

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What did Ayame mean by this?

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>>23711813
I don't think having your employer make a mockery of your channel as a "funny story"
Sony is a blight and needs to be driven out, botting is not okay and anyone who does it is scum.

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>>23711168
Doesnt matter. Had enough of hag. Will hornypost with Snake.

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>>23711131

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>>23711730
It will go on the tally, but we will NOT grant it gold.

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Kuzuha numbers running a little skinny. Is this game worse than usual or he shares some of the audience with Yashiro?

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>>23711894
does she even have one?

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>>23711905
where is mori VS' number her

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>>23711703
She knows it's horseshit, given the poll she threw up, but it's a funny thing to point out anyways. Come.on, do you have no ability to understand a joke?

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>>23711371
Technically it's not even that good for EU either, a few hours later would be better.

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>>23711941
It'll probably break 20k like the other times he played the game.

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>>23711730
'official' peak doesn't go on the tally anon
else ytstudio peak numbers during ccvid would make it to the tally (it doesn't)
it had to be the highest recorded peak from trusted public trackers so that it could be cross checked. screenshots or ccv claims can be easily faked and samefagged. eg:
>bro i saw mio peaked at 55k, here's a screenshot
>yeah me too bro, here's another screenshot

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>>23711941
it's not like his other streams of this did that great, one of them failed to break 20k, however i think that one happened outside of prime time

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>>23711236
>nijisanjiEN
>males randomly joining a girl's stream
Name a more iconic duo.

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>>23711992
This 100%. right now it's 4PM in central europe, 3PM in London, smack in the middle of the working day.

In three hours at very least school youth would be at home

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>>23711849
It means she’s too depressed to stream this month.

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>>23712030
They’re trying to pump up her numbers.

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>>23711131
TBF, if >we are to assume that Mori's stream is culled at the same rate as Kiara's or IRyS's (aka those who have disclosed their real, post-process numbers before), it will be more in the line of ~9k instead.
Still, a stream in middle of JP hours (and thus, presumably attracted more JP / Asians) might not be culled as hard and even at 9k, that'd only earn Mori a +1 ranking in that list, so...

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>>23711849
>blue women are
>le bad

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>>23712072
It increases their ccv for that stream but it risks alienating the audience that doesn't like males. It remains to be seen if it's worthwhile long term

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>>23711039
We should use this screen for the next OP even if it leads to shitty thread quality. It's hilarious in a fucked up kinda way.

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>>23712086
Vampire Survivor especially depends a lot on how skilled you are at the game though. If you are shit and constantly die you won't reach a peak but if you manage to reach 30 minutes then you'll get big numbers.

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>>23712134
>Reimu
>Audience
lol

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>>23711365
>Have the girls occasionally stream during Asian hours
>Get Vox / Mysta / Luca to jump in their streams
>Their numbers jump up and they become more marketable
>Attract more sponsors and all that
That's a smart move

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>>23712216
Yep. Though if you spike too early and become OP at 15 minutes that's also no good since there's no tension.

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>>23712216
Yashiro is known for being amazing in rhythm games, so it was expected for him to get good numbers. It's like Marine being a fan of touhou and playing VS.

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Well it look like we may be having a Yugo and Reimu+ Vox overlap starting at the same time

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* ongoing Holo streams that started before 11PM *
Overlaps are surely rough on Roboco, she surely would be better off in the morning slots

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Why does it keep doing this? 10 minute mark incline.

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>>23711989
>Come.on, do you have no ability to understand a joke?
Just what site do you think you're in, anon?

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>>23712219
You know it looks bad when they’re forced to do a solo sponsor stream and their numbers tank hard, right? Granted I doubt Reimu will get sponsors anyways unless they throw her in as a +1 to sweeten the deal.

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>>23708548
ended up at 23k after it inclined when they started pulling, so it did okay considering the particular gacha game sponsor it was

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>>23712350
Probably VPN effect become more obvious when there are thousands of VPN users watching the stream

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>>23711905
damn VSPO streams alot
considering they have 5 less than nijiEN and they do long ass streams, you have a Hours Streamed chart to show us?

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>>23712134
It's not looking too good already.

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Gotta say this strategy by Holos of pairing up (and sometimes tripling up) to boost each other is working wonders

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>>23712303
Reimu is starting late to give Yugo 15' to get her peak. NijiEN UNITY!

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>>23712067

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>>23711236
>>23712030
>males randomly joining a girl's stream
ogey

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poll

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>23712560
this post is fucking baffling, i don't even know what to reply lmao

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>>23712617
I mean, this time he just grudge/shitposted without even checking but he si no wrong tho

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Well, no worm for Yugo.

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>>23712664
800 now, 80% participation, culled af

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>>23712617
another case of holobrony caught lying to no ones surprise

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Yeah Mori is genuinely garbage at VS, she isn't going to get past 7k CCV if she can barely last 10 minutes.

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>>23712664
I don't know the purpose of posting screenshots anymore. Everyone already knows that they are culled, unless YouTube makes an announcement of some kind, it's useless to keep posting these

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>>23712664
poll heavily botted

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>>23712560
Its just kanata leeching off people since friend c is not in holo

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7 mins, more than 100% participation

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>Mysta is streaming on Twitch to avoid having himself and Yugo to lose audience due to tabbing
Smart

[Anonymous No.]

huh

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>>23712838
smaller ccv tends to appear having higher participation

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>>23712848
His stream just ended, so it wouldn't have mattered

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>>23712884
anon, stop thinking

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>>23712884
Some retard contryman just got my whole ass IP range banned. Been a lurker for 3 days

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>>23712688
>Well, no worm for Yugo.
11min 8.4K and inclining
Still Gold I guess

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>>23712899
interesting, does anyone have polls for the Nijigirls who have 1-5k ccv?

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>>23712931
Vietbros...

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>>23712936
please label your posts properly during jst prime when talking about your cripple olympics

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>>23712838
1,2k now

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>>23712967
Cry more

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>>23712936
HoloENbros, they keep beating us...

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>>23712967
seethe more, ywnbj

[Anonymous No.]

Indonesian government will ban 4channel soon, the only way they can access this site is through VPN
>>23710670

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>>23713022
god i wish you fucking ensharts made your own fucking thread already

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>>23713038
proof?

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The tally is a joke anyway so I don't mind including botted stream at this point

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>>23712764
It's always good to keep posting proof of it.

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>>23712931
My phone carrier has been banned for months in my area. Last I saw was someone repeatedly getting banned on /k/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713053
jpniggers need to go back to /jp/

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>>23713022
Whole Jp audience watching EN Karaoke,right?

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>>23712931
probably the goreposter we had a few days ago, where are you from?

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>>23712936
>gold
It's not beating 45k anon.

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>>23712848
Dude just prefer twitch cause it have way less chink throwing bad translated giant sentences

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>>23713028
>need celebration everytime to do something
thats even more pathetic

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>>23713038
Finally

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>>23713132
It honestly doesn't make sense just like how that flatline while she was singing doesn't make sense and only inclined after she finished the song until where it is now. But whatever, I'm fucking tired of NijiEN bullshit.

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>>23712936
Anon... Did you think she was Japanese or something?
>>23711613
I mean, Yugo is Japanese.. you know what i mean.

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>>23713088
>4 min 50% engagement
that's actually higher than normal streamers' poll numbers

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>>23713022
It's always the 10 minute worm. Figures.

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>>23713188
NijiEN might have a slightly culled audience but they still aren't culled as much as HoloEN, much less ID

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>>23713132
There are ups and downs, so clearly it's a mixture of JP, EN / Western, and SEA plus some minor HK / TW there

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>>23713161
200K Countdown
200K Celebration
200K Celebration Karaoke
200K Afterparty

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>>23713188
Yes, but it's more reasonable for
"Highly engaged vtuber audience"

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>>23713022
THE WORM.

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>>23713175
chink viewfarms always do that.

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>>23713161
Why aren't HoloEN members doing it to keep their place, then? Right, HoloEN has barely gotten anything to celebrate in months

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>>23713038
hopefully they get death penalty for using 4chan

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>>23713137
>>23712964
Pretty interesting to see the reason why some got banned while trying out some free vpn though. Some post Fury, some shit on mods, most of them are from /pol/, those fucker take away my ban evade solution in just 3 months.

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>>23713253
sadly for their celebration spam with chink worms, everytime is over when the shark stars streaming today

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713161
the nijien dream

[Anonymous No.]

It was going good here until the nijiENs got out of their caves after they saw Yugo

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713088
This image just shows how truly fucked YT ccv numbers are.

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>>23713294
only twitchfags do thats just to get audience.

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>>23713361
all because these motherfuckers can't stream in the fucking market they're supposed to be targeting i can't enjoy jst prime anymore in this thread, it fucking blows because they never shut up about their fucking paralympics

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently Yugo is celebrating membership opening.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder

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>>23713350
>Only HoloEN member can put up a fight against NijiEN to avoid the monthly onslaught is Gura
How the giants have fallen

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>>23713161
and this just happen the last month

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713438
and he needs 5 streams to do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713359
they must have been very successful to have this many celebrations

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>>23713306
My 4g network gets banned regularly for the exact same reason: VPN. I have no idea why

[Anonymous No.]

What is the exchange value when converting Twitch CCV into youtube CCV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713475
yes

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>>23713420
They are targeting Asian / TW / CN market. Just because they are English speaking VTubers doesn't mean they have to target Western market. CN / Asian countries speak English too
In other words, keep crying Holofags

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>>23711849
A declaration of war against blue women
I for once support the blue women working together for once to gang rape Ayame

[Anonymous No.]

>La+ doing superchat reading
https://youtu.be/psFB_mgdJC4
What world is this?

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>>23713294
Unironically because they don't give a fuck, they can enjoy their lives without having to care about anything and do what they want. Losers and seconds are slaves to their complexes and insecurities and care about that shit so they have to try so hard to think they are still relevant

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>>23713446
Ina has birthday this month and always myth collab mogs nijiCN so keep seething zhang

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>>23713438
Just now? Haven't they been around for literal months already?

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btw, just reminding you guys that Yugo’s median peak is less than 2k.

Just want that to sink in everytime you see a karaoke suddenly get 10k+ ccv. You know the answer as to why

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>>23713306
>>23713495
I'm lucky in that it seems like I'm the only guy on my mobile network that uses 4chan, the only time I got a ban for someone else is when they posted loli porn on /v/ sometime on 2012

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>>23713521
I hope they will still enjoy their lives when NijiEN takes over as the most popular EN speaking group, then

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>>23713511
unironically who they target actually makes more sense since they have an easier access to merch compared to western viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23712838
meanwhile
the peak was over 17k, it never reached true 100%

[Anonymous No.]

C'mon youtube how long does it take to process one fucking VOD?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713569
>most popular
>EN speaking
kek

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>>23713294
>keep their place
what does this mean?

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>>23713171
>>23713304
Chill. From the ID threads yesterday, it shows that most Indonesian here are cool, but there are some who are genuinely retarded. schizo, and loves to stir things up.
Yesterday, around 50-60 Indonesian are good, and after around 10 new IPs coming in, the thread gone to shit.

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>>23713524
Okay, how many days will it be, then? 2? 3? It's already 4-1 right now. Will HoloEN be able to make a comeback?

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>>23713569
> NijiEN takes over as the most popular EN speaking group
you mean China, because for global audience they are give up with that. So keep suck winnie pooh cock zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713556
I mean it's obvious

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>>23712967
If it's EN it's ALWAYS cripple gold mate

[Anonymous No.]

Seem like the Chinkposter got worse in the exact same time Vietbros got banned

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713571
>40 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

JFC the almost 100k vod view difference between this two streams despise having almost similar CCV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7RsE7HjRW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzaLcVxgPtY

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>>23713569
1. They won't give a single fuck
2. The only thing NijiEN could take over is NijiJP making it even more irrelevant killing the main branch just to recline in a few months because non-JP tourist won't give a fuck about them

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713591
It's already processed anon,
Video views algorithm has alwas been 100 times better than the live viewer one.
Everything now is just proper vod views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713692
and one is a full hour longer, let that sink in

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713672
>Vietbros got banned
eh both my wifi and mobile network are doing fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713672
Let's see.
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[Anonymous No.]

>>23713610
To be fair for that nijifag, he said en speaking, not en audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713610
See >>23713511
>>23713611
To remain most popular EN VTuber group? Because they are slipping and NijiEN is stepping up. You think they will still be treated by others the same way if / when they have to play second fiddle to NijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713633
That's honestly perfect, the intelligent Indos will likely know how to evade shitty govt bans but the IDkids and schizos won't have the attention span for it and will just have to silently lurk and seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713726
ISP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713659
thats the part where chinks don't care the damage they are doing to Niji and now they are start doing worms on NijiJP too. Don't be suprised that when Anycolo open their shares on June Bilibili buy them completely and people start to mass graduating again

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713556
I feel bad for her since she seemed so excited to join the EN branch :(
Why don't people like her as much as the other guys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713754
but that's vshojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713782
Bad English
Boring
Literally doesn't know how to stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713642
Nope. They're Doomed.
Doooooooooooooomed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713697
Kanae Valo 5K
NijiEN stealing NijiJP viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713754
they aren't slipping and i doubt they even know who half of the nijiEN members are. you are retarded if you think they join this thread and look at gold tallies

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713707
nah, it doesn't show up in her "most popular" list yet, so it's still processing

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713754
>Because they are slipping
Why are you people like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713771
VNPT South west
anyway it's getting off topic here
I'm looking forward to the Snake next stream, seems like she gained some genuine fans in the last stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713782
she does have a niche though, which is music mixing and vocal lessons for other members, but her normal streams are pretty boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713782
Its her own fault for making the nips angry

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713754
just feels like you're setting up grudgeposts for EN3

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713754
>Because they are slipping and NijiEN is stepping up
Where? Can you show it here? >>23713556

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713843
is prism gold sadly for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713863
Figure, mine is Viettel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713642
Not with Chinks

[Anonymous No.]

>>23712764
There's always going to be new people on these threads that aren't aware and buy into the baitposting/fujoposting narratives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713843
>EN GOLD
Kys, it cant even beat snek girl 45k. Use more bots fujos

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713997
プリプロ最強!!
プリプロ最強!!

[Anonymous No.]

ENTER IKE TO FURTHER BOOST THE NUMBERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713672
Banned from where? I am literally posting on both /jp/ and this board right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713772
Are they opening their shares in June? Haven't they opened it this week?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713556
just like moona was doing before she got buffed by hololive fes retard

[Anonymous No.]

A joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713810
>>23713642
Only one person is enough for that:
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1521880774194118657

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714049
4chan as a whole? Couldn't post anywhere for 3 days, Viettel btw.

[Anonymous No.]

Checking Mori's PB atm, I'm surprised her elden ring series gets above 180k views for all of it except for her latest one

[Anonymous No.]

I ask myself why do the Niji EN fan see this so caled EN gold as some kind of holy grail price i mean don't they want them to compete for the Global gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714211
not enough money for global gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713451
>this is so tiresome
do holobronies really?
imagine getting "tired" when someone you don't watch do something

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714151
Literally incomparable

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714211
reminder that the first post about cripple gold was posted by a niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714165
why is it a joke? im confused, whats wrong with the graph

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714165
A fucking worm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714211
global gold costs more than $11

[Anonymous No.]

>>23711613
>44.8k confirmed by youtube
GOLD FOR PRISM PROJECT

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714211
It's a funny instrument to cope with the fact that none of their talents will break 10k median this month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714211
They dont have the money like sony.
Even prism is getting global gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714211
nijiniggers and their small dog syndrome please understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714248
>states that someone having less than 2k ccv would never get 10k normally
come on, you can stop moving the goalpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714260
Because the worm is to ovbious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714307
Already happened in April.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713843
prims gold but if you insist I will add it to "not this shit again" list >>23713451

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714366
>median

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714307
They will if they fake more celebration

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714390
this is not an unarchived karaoke though

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714366
with too many celebration spam on april and 0 median 10k for them. NijiEN what a fucking joke, need chink worms to be relevant but only on China

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714366
Down from March.

[Anonymous No.]

At this point, I could understand what kind of games those nijilivers and chink fans are playing. They're just trying to get a reaction out of the usual posters in this place. It's all tiresome, I'd just ignore the kind of posts where they go "HoloEN losing, NijiEN winning" kind of stuff. Even if Gura's on tomorrow, the EN livers are already stacking up horror streams one after another starting from 7pm jst. They know, they look at this place and they want to feel what it's like winning a gold that does not matter in life. How depressing.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh yeah youtube music weekend is happening in a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714366
are you illiterate or just don't understand the difference between median and mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714366
Stupid fujo

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714211
Literally a shitposting (You) farm. Like just about anything in this godforsaken thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714451
sounds like you give more of a fuck than them, enough to write a whole paragraph about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714332
Moona doesn't normally get 10K for Karaokes. During her early days, she usually fluctuated around 5-7K then it slowly increased to 8-9K.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713556
>>23714366
Can Fulgur safely be considered a disappointment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713782
>Not an actual man
>Extremely unprepared, nobody to come will top the amount of scuff she had early streams
>Got herself a 1-week self suspension without consulting management
But she still getting 14k watching for a non-english karaoke
Selen and Elira had to hype the shit out of their unachieved english karaoke to get similar numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714366
Not even 5 month in....

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714211
I'm a HoloEN fan and I see EN gold as a mark of shame. I thought people were pushing it at first to rub it in the faces of HoloEN fans that they will always be culled and will never compete for real gold again outside of huge events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714198
Eh. Gura won't stream every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714332
Post Moona karaoke graph

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714496
Nah, I don't care about nijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714521
Asian tourists just tuning into the timeslot. On no planet is Yugo more popular than Selen or Elira or Pomu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714245
I don't care what they do and I don't even care if they win the cripple gold or not. They could get all the numbers they want and I still wouldn't care.
What I really care about is nijiniggers ruining this thread every single day.
I will never give a chance to your "livers" because everything I see about their fanbase is fucking pathetic, the fanbase reflects the streamer so they should be grateful for all you are doing trying your best to make people to hate them

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714151
Moona was getting 4-8k on her karaokes pre holofes, which is where you’d expect them to be from someone who averages somewhere around 2-4k ccv. This is quite literally replicated across Hololive also. Matsuri karaokes get what, 6k ish? Roboco gets 4k?

You don’t go from 2k to fucking 12-14k my dude. This is a constant pattern across every single fucking karaoke in Niji.
>Uki median peak <4k
>Manages to get 17k karaokes every time
Yeah. I’m sure Uki is Mumei levels of popular right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714398
>>23714456
>>23714459
t. hread skimmer

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714576
sure, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713642
Didn't Nijis already have a 6 day celebration win streak in April and still lost? Just stfu already with your cripple gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714598
Do ur math rep first chink. I thought zhang was supposed to be the smartest in math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714599
just wanted to say that i love mumei. thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714598
does this look like 10k to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714434
every gold karaoke count
>>23714245
it's tiresome cuz they overused to blatant numberfagging

[Anonymous No.]

Doesn't look like NijiEN will be able to beat Prism today. First ever special olympics gold to a a small corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713692
Meh, it's like we all forgot how fucking culled EN is once we started discussing these new chink vtubers. That's what pissed me off the most, that its truly the cripple olympics with HoloEN being completely fucked by CCV while Susan gives the other ones the go ahead to use all the VPNs to bypass verificaition they need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714598
>>23714366
>nijiniggers in charge of math

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714677
oh hi!

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713511
>CN / Asian countries speak English too
They don't understand shit. Which explains how they can stand watching them.

[Anonymous No.]

i wish do holobronies really was a fucking autoban phrase

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714542
Nah actually the whole EN gold start with niji crying and demanding on december, everyone know is stupid and the only one who cares as you see are Nijis, Fujos and Chinks shitting on hololive for months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23713891
Sure. Going by >>23713556, let's make a comparison between their March and April medians:
Member: March -> April
Gura: 17,883 -> 17,026 (-)
Mumei: 8,413 -> 11,606 (+)
Ina: 12,761 -> 10,201 (-)
Mori: 12,653 -> 10,056 (-)
Fauna: 8,157 -> 8,747 (+)
Kronii: 9,593 -> 8,722 (-)
Amelia: 7,100 -> 7,887 (+)
IRyS: 8,242 -> 7,480 (-)
Kiara: 7,421 -> 5,916 (-)
Baelz: 5,320 -> 5,815 (+)
4 out of 11 inclined, while the other 7 reclined. All big HoloEN names except Mumei reclined. If that wasn't slipping, what is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714700
I still don't know wtf did sony do to increase in that way. Thats not good publicity at all for a 2view

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714762
can you also compare NijiEN's March to April?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714708
Sucks that nothing will be done about it from the HoloEN girls side because of a combination of them knowing the real numbers and not really giving a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714762
>Gura gone
>Ame gone
>Ina debuff game
>Mori gone
>Kronii gone
>Irys
>Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714762
Now do the same with NijinCN zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714825
It's managements job to do something desu. Like, undeniably, it is management's job to do this and not the talent to bitch about youtube live (and possibly piss off management doing so).

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714762
Anon, holoen is allergic to numbers. They kept spamming debuff game n just want to have fun. While nijien are making stupid fake celebration. Wtf have 3 birthday celebration stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714886
Yugo is having an afterparty for this karaoke btw :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714762
This is why le recline month to month is a stupid meme. Mori and Ina were boosted pretty fucking high by Elden Ring being a buff game. This is like looking at Botan/Noel after they're done with Elden ring and concluding recline, ignoring that they're more or less back to their usual numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714708
This should be an obvious one since it’s Gura, but even during her processed Splatoon vod, before it even remotely climbed up from her moving for a week+, Korone had 5 straight splatoon vods, one even being a collab, where they didn’t even come CLOSE to Gura’s views. It literally took 6 hours for Korone to finally beat out that Splatoon vod that was less than 2 hours long. And well, as you know the Splatoon vod is well over 300k now. But it’s just things like that where ENs can overperform massively on vods that you wouldn’t see elsewhere too often

[Anonymous No.]

Has the hype for HoloEN/EN in general already settled or can it get even worse in the future?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714949
why don't you go spam the catalog or something

[Anonymous No.]

She's going to get it before Peko, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Why won't the nijifan give us the NijiEN March-April numbers? Anyone else want to do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714921
Mori also took 2 weeks break

[Anonymous No.]

>>23712899
>>23713571
1 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714915
2k without bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714986
most likely

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714072
riku is cashing out, please understand

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have the 2021 month to month numbers for Gura? I swear I remember exact dips to shit ccv like these for months and OH NO NO BROS ITS OVER. Like, literally to 17k around march-april.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714971
read my question, has the EN scene already reached the floor of popularity (meaning they won't recline any further from now on) or can it still get any worse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714949
don't you have to sucking winnie poh cock again zhang?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715002
Is a recline since the whole median reclindd and had part debut buff o march .

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715008
Only 50%? Pretty low compared to HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714762
Just checked Kiara and Bae, but I'm pretty sure all your numbers for march are wrong compared to >>23714438

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715067
How the flying fuck would anyone know you cretin? Go away to the catalog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715067
read my question DID YOU START SUCKING WINNIE POOH COCK TODAY ZHANG???

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714886
>I SWEAR THE REASON THEY ARE RECLINING IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALLERGIC TO NUMBERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715080
see >>23715067

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714915
Its a membership opening celebration, 1 stream is enough. Nijien is really shameless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715036
April 2021 was her worst month, sub 17k median ccv, other ENs did worse too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715119
see my answer zhang:
>>23715118

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715112
For numberfags you sure can't do any forecasts and predictions

[Anonymous No.]

Kobo 4k telling ghost story in indog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715120
They could:
Spam Minecraft
Not play a game that goes on for 10+ streams
Collab more and say fuck off to their audience
Advertise their shit more

Instead they:
Let minecraft die
Play elden ring/skyrim/oblivion for 10+ streams
Do more Solo streams
Sometimes forget to even fucking tweet and actually end up doing it after the stream starts

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking told you guys that there would be some well timed Karaoke to save the day, but you never listen

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715154
Taiwan is a independent country. happy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715195
what is elden ring, VS, ame la creatividad etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714921
Yeah, you have to look at trends like Gura going from a ~21-25k CCV median in 2021 to immediately falling to a 17k CCV median in 2022 without any noticeable decrease in VOD views to match. I've said before that I wouldn't be surprised if their CCV continues to gradually get more crippled to the point that Gura starts to get sub-10k for normal, non-debuff streams. It's like each week, I expect less and less from the girls CCV but still expect their usual VOD views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715152
Yeah, that's what I thought so. It's why I don't take LE RECLINING posts seriously since I've already seen Gura "recline" to some really dogshit numbers and get back up later. For instance winter Gura had some really good CCV since buff content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715174
It's more like reading fans made stories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714699
>blatant numberfagging
do you know where you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>ITT: reading comprehension
Did the thread IQ drop again or are people literally pretending to be retarded for 7 years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715120
>Pre Celebration party
>Celebration party
>Post celebration party
Amazing content from nijien. Thats why they are the biggest en vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715120
unlike nijizhang gura and friends doesnt spam celebration for every milestone

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715195
The scheduling could als get better. They keep overlapping.
Fauna lietarally overlapped all of ame stream and she had already streamed for 4hrs before it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715234
>he believe he is from taiwan
even zhangs can tell lies so did you start sucking winnie poh cock today??

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715161
If I wanted to do real maths to forecast future numbers I would be earning half a million a year in Amazon/Google, not shitposting in 4chan. we just look at numbers and talk about it because we have autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715212
Prism already won the manchurian gold

[Anonymous No.]

I heard Rpr was supposed to visit japan in June. How is he able to do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715174
>4k
decline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715306
people have pretending to be retarded on this site since 2003, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715309
>>23715315
success results to more celebrations. maybe one day Holoen will hold more celebrations when they stop botting their sub number

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715339
retard. I don't even hate EN, I was just asking what the future of EN looks like. Whether they'll stabilize around where they are right now and or whether they'll decline any further

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715234
niji fan show the niji median from march to april please

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715212
The karaoke didn't come close to beating Sara's peak though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715376
japan's border is open though ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715120
It's more like NijiEN's content is tailored to win the cripple olympics via celebration spam. On the actual average/median front, they're not winning shit. But shitposters are pretending that cripple gold victories (they still haven't won a month, and won't win this one either) are what determine incline and spam the thread to death.

Let's assume no bots: if your "liver" can spike from 2k to 15k+ on a karaoke celebration using a tourist audience, that still doesn't mean shit for them. Sponsors won't care, regular viewers aren't transferring over etc. What are you really *winning*?

[Anonymous No.]

Since no one bothered to do it
From March to April peak median
Mysta 11305 -> 9650 (-)
Vox 10415 -> 9937 (-)
Luca 8386 -> 7018 (-)
Ike 5831 -> 4763 (-)
Shu 4172 -> 5305 (+)
Yugo 3804 -> 1977 (-)
Sonny 3658 -> 3610 (-)
Selen 3451 -> 3642 (+)
Alban 3396 -> 5057 (+)
Fulgur 3319 -> 2757 (-)
Uki 3170 -> 3921 (+)
Pomu 2939 -> 2748 (-)
Rosemi 2658 -> 1953 (-)
Nina 2552 -> 2424 (-)
Elira 2079 -> 2255 (+)
Enna 1871 -> 2062 (+)
Millie 1716 -> 1648 (-)
Finana 1539 -> 1509 (-)
Petra 1322 -> 1557 (+)
Reimu 1264 -> 1050 (-)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715376
He was approved under a special dispensation set up by Abe if the traveler plans to impregnate a Japanese woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715381
It's always been around that in every ghost reading. Even some indogs found the content to be boring. I think her real ID only numbers without buff or debuff are around 7k-8k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715438
you can blame your whores for being lazy

[Anonymous No.]

Yugo's afterparty is stalling at 2k now.
Why should I once again pretend that paralympic gold means shit while in reality no one gives a flying fuck about her/him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715396
keep seething west taiwanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715297
do you know numberfag hate numberfag chubbas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715455
7 out of 20 inclined in NijiEN, 4 out of 11 inclined in HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715396
>decline
you realize they expanding worldwide right, with the exception of NijiCN (bilibili and mainlanders gonna eat them alive), holos will increase their audience and even more on 2023 when world tour concerts starts

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715455
The celebration aint workin anymore, zhang what should we do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715396
Ok but seriously how can anyone know that? Forecasts for something as volatile as "will they spam buff games this month? will they do minecra?" etc are not possible. Look at Ina getting her median buffed by Elden Ring spam, how the fuck could anyone have forecasted that? How could anyone have forecasted Aqua's insane Apex numbers, both for the solo master arc and the Startend arc? This is too dynamic a number to forecast jack shit about.

Hell, look at April 2021 >>23715152 for Myth. We already had the "floor" of EN vtubing last year. Their numbers last April were worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715498
>Doing an afterparty of an archived karaoke
Were the bots only paid for an hour so keeping it on the same stream would have made it too obvious?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715538
alright, thank you for actually answering my question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715436
Not for tourists, only for students and business travel. I guess he got either Cover, Anykara, NeoPorte or some JP Apex org to sign it off as a "trip for for business purposes".

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715531
4 out of 11 is more than 7 out of 20

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715466
damn, can i get a special dispensation too ? or do i need to pay for that shit ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715396
Supposedly EN really recline. Would a rarely stream music focus Holo like Mori can keep her music number? Suisei can fall back to the huge HoloJP box that always mention and keep her relevant but what about Mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715531
only 3 males

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715590
35% vs 36%. Just barely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715455
m-milord...*coughs up blood*

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715531
>incline
truly NijiEN have small dog symdrome if spam celebrations is the only thing they to increase

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715618
That is whit 5 people varely streaming

[Anonymous No.]

Gwombus come back and save us from the small dogs.

[Anonymous No.]

lmao. Here’s something pretty funny.
>Started minutes after Yugo’s karaoke was done
>Actually stayed stable so no sign of a ridiculous funnel, given it was after the fact
>Suddenly, 10 minutes in
>GIANT SURGE

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715575
he is signed to a JP org, so i assume they probably pulled something for him under the guise of work with his teammates

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715607
If Mori or her management/advisors have any sense at all, she should be ramping up her streaming to maximize engagement prior to her new album dropping. It's the best marketing tool she has. Surely they won't squander it. Surely....

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715678
Why is Vox in the thumbnail? Is he Freddie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715678
This looks like some half assed worm

[Anonymous No.]

>>23714762
>>23715455
>>23715531
>>23715618
oh no no no no nijisisters our lies have been exposed

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715568
Ah, I see I wasn't aware the floor was already reached last year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715678
>Reimu has moved into chink time, streaming with Vox so she can get chink views
These poor girls, reduced to pandering to actualy fujos for minimal gains

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715711
Its necesarry for the bots to know which stream they need to go

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715693
Mori’s management wanted to hard cap her at 2 streams a week cause she’s still trying to do full time on both careers. She’s going on a con tour as her roommate soon iirc on top of an album she has to produce and 2-3 concerts she needs to prepare for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715152
Thanks anon. But I was thinking of the full, all 2021 year round numbers. You can see Gura bounce back to 20k+ and below several times in it.

[Anonymous No.]

Marine's new video really stagnated after reaching the 2M mark.
I don't have the data but I think she got the 2M after 3 days or so and 5 days after that it's at 2.350.000 views

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715752
Only rosemi, fina, pomu and selen remains on na.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715825
she was playing DMC4 on april and Metroid

[Anonymous No.]

What it would take for a resurgence in interest in EN like back in November 2020?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715803
Shit feel like it's gonna hit a dismissing return soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715242
Is it though? She only have like 1 stream that have 1M views this year compared to like 7-8 last year(jan-may) .

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
another pandemic, but this time the virus makes you cough up blood and makes your dick fall off so people actually take it seriously after the last one

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715803
The effort she's putting into her roommate at a critical juncture in her music career seems like a poor use of her efforts or at least bad timing. Save performing as your roommate for after a successful debut album, it would benefit both her careers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
Unironically, just more talent who are willing to stream so they could keep the box running

[Anonymous No.]

Susan finally dropped her numbers, but the VOD still seems to be in processing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715864
And? Let's not pretend she hasn't had weeks of ghastly debuff games in the past few months.

Really, all these girls need to do is get back to minecra.
>>23715886
Minecra. EN3. Minecra with EN3.

[Anonymous No.]

I honestly always wondered just how much money Mori make from both Youtube and Spotify music views

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
just stream and have more enthusiasm/effort. that's it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
She dropped from 500K+ to 9.1K? Holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715945
Feels like she desperately wants to be a celeb even if it’s only among weebs and con season is coming up. If she doesn’t do it now she has to wait another year to feel like a big shot as her roommate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
>they were actually fake numbers all along and susan culled them
well now..

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
kek, just like Koyori, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
Holy ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715678
Botted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715825
I don't have that unfortunately. I have a "hole" of CCV data for may-june-july 2021, april 2021 was the last one I have (from nip sources) and chartanon itt only started making his charts in august 2021, as far as i know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
damn, pretty good vod for a 3 view, i guess the botting attracted some legitimate people

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
Susan fuck her cull and you will see their real numbers for once

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
now you see why they are botting unarchived streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
still one of her strongest VOD numbers overall though lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715999
Everybody knew that. What's your point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
Called it (as did a bunch of other Anons)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715983
Anon she had nowhere near 500k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
yep sounds about right. I think this is still a decent VOD for her, just not insane

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Empfi8q0aas
12days coming up to 1million views, how good is that for isegye

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716016
Not Koyori, Koron ch!

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716046
her analytics screenshot said 500k

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716051
Lots of churn from people coming from numberfag sites, it seems.
Goes to show why those cryptoscams inflate their numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
Nothing. Vtubing was a novelty back then to the west, but now it's common to see vtubers on every platform. So unless someone like xqc or asmongold went into vtubing, then this is as good as it's going to get for EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716046
Well obviously but that's the number that was on her dashboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716040
That they were fake? Sure.
That susan would cull them from the VOD? Not sure about that. I still think its that deranged anon who botted Millie since he said next time he does it he'll pick a 2 view and not tell us, but someone was COINCIDENTALLY monitoring the beginning of her incline (they told us at around 14k out of 45k) and came to report here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715945
Nah she can. She isnt streaming daily and only stream at nights now since she records all afternoon. So na buff wont exist for her this month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716095
I wonder how much 490k botted views cost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
new tech

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716046
Botted stream confirmed
So Mio Gold?

[Anonymous No.]

* ongoing streams over 10k *
Did Yashiro played VS this much better than Furen ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716052
Is the 17k hitter girl in there? If so then slight underperform.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
To get back to 2020 is impossible, Vtubers were the hot new thing back then.
To get double the numbers all you need is for Susan to undo her cursed 2020 cull and get rid of the retarded verification system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716124
I mean there's fans everywhere, even for 2views. If it happened to Shiki from PP as well I would've reported it here as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
VOD views are the most accurate metric, confirmed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715967
>EN3
Do people really think this? The best I see EN3 doing is slightly better than Council, and that's assuming they actually stream regularly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716160
isn't yashiro known for being really good at games

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716051
I'm expecting another few thousand to get wiped, it still hasn't showed up in her "most popular" list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715966
sony failed this time

[Anonymous No.]

Even if bots get culled from VOD views, it still makes it hard to detect botting on VODs that get organic growth. This isn't really much help in telling if NijiEN males are botted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716200
Really think what? I'm not saying EN3 is gonna have amazing big numbers on their own, I'm saying adding 5 more chuubas to the box will boost everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715678
Again, the worm. It's usually happens at the 10 min mark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716124
14k puts her at a range where she will show up on the top streams chart, and some anons are known to just refresh that page from time to time, not really too farfetched to think one of them found it there are was surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of EN, here are some charts anon posted yesterday
>Gura VOD views over plus a 15 streams median

Very stable after the end of the debut buff, slight dip since november (from 500-700k range to 400-600k range)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716200
people keep expecting a JP3,Myth,ID3 tier success, it just won't happen though

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716265
And here is Ame. Two marked reclines, in August and December 2021 (her two hiatus?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716200
They only need people willing to collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716291
Yeah, I think Cover already hired the best talent they could for EN. Any new talents will end up worse than Myth and maybe even council because talent pool in the western market is just that shallow

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716265
How is this calculated though? Do these numbers freeze the VOD every month?
Because if not then the old vods keep getting more views so it will always look like a recline. That's...how VODs work, at least for Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716291
Even JP3 didn't happen overnight. Took them about an year to get to the point they became known for being the numbers gen.
At very least in mind share, Pekora and Marine played second fiddle to Fubuki, Matsuri and Coco up until the adpocalypse

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716291
Hard to keep up the public success when Susan keeps randomly kneecapping Vtubers every December. Their internal (true) analytics probably aren’t touched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716179
>YouTube
>removing their verification system
Good luck, bro. As long as payments are tied to views, adblockers will never count, and anyone that YouTube so much as suspects to be "not actually watching" will continue to be flagged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716291
Where is JP6?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715678
>>23715752
Why do these women think the chink fujos will watch them when they are not collabing with luxiem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716401
just keep collabing, problem solved

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716355
Speaking of EN3, how is that Shoegazing girl rrat anon? Any confirmation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716355
You say this but Kronii had the potential to be EN's nr 2, and Mumei is growing into that role just by being Gura lite. You don't need le amazing talent, but I do wish Gen3 won't sandbag with a Sana/Bae tier chuba, leave those to the small corpos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716359
>How is this calculated though? Do these numbers freeze the VOD every month?
Nope, seems like the numbers from yesterday.

It biases the numbers towards older streams but most VODs stop growing with any significance after a few days and a 15 streams median means it is averaging 25 days to a month of worth of streams

Here is another chart posted (Ame, APEX only) with the streams considered

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716200
the only reason to get EN back on track is getting their own studios with their own Yagoo/A-chan figure and events on the main channel ala JP
otherwise they will just end up as the side branch they currently are, the language barrier and all it takes to get their requests across demotivates them to ask for stuff and they just end up playing whatever JP plays

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
Cover becomes Hybe
EN3 is a girl band
StarsEN is a boy band

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716372
He means the CCV verification system I think. VOD verification never got touched and that’s what YouTube uses for payouts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716391
they are a fucking mess currently, the hags are at least stable and starting to show signs of improvement or slight inclines while the other 3 are super aimless or sabotaging themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716369
And lack of game permissions.
YGO and MGS
Come on Yagoo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716473
Adblock doesn't count as a view not because it would inflate the CCV (and you're right, these are not used to calculate payout) but they would inflate "watch time", and *that* is used for ad payment

[Anonymous No.]

You think Koyori is able to brute-force herself into climbing in numbers just by streaming a lot?

[Anonymous No.]

what's the point of botting streams anyway? you don't actually get more interaction, you just get numbers and if susan is culling those numbers, what is the benefit? i can see it creating FOMO a bit but nothing else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716355
Kronii and Mumei are actually one of those biggest hitters in the range of Hololive. One have multiple over 500k views video, and the other is over 1mil subs on Youtube. You could hardly get anyone better, at least on paper. But too bad 1 got depression, and the other is a cute retard that kinda need a collab partner to really shine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716451
If Japan is opened rn, why hasn't any of the EN ID girls when there already? I thought you still need a business Visa but according to rpr next trip apparently not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
More streaming variety. You act as a character in a virtual world for chrissake, there ought to be lots of things you can do that could never be done good IRL.

VTubing has elements of puppetry, learn from the artform. VTubing heavily relies on voice, learn from industries that rely on it as well like the radio. I have yet to see EN perform an audio drama or a live reading of say poems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716200
New gen = oldfags that stopped watching holoEN and tourists check the new gen to get a new oshi, while clippers all fight to clip the new toys
That triggers the algorithm to recommend the new gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716551
who knows, her numbers are fucking whack, her morning show is stable but everything else is a fucking gamble of how much she gets
at least she's good at farming views and has decent scs, which is what gets them paid

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716551
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716542
But this is an insanely stupid system. I mean I understand not counting it internally, or in the VOD, but if you make this affect live CCV you are sandbagging every single streamer on your platform. It would only make sense in a vacuum where you're the only streaming platform, not in the situation where you are trying to take people away from Twitch. I can only surmise that every time someone hops over from twitch with a contract they shadily whitelist them from verifications.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716601
*gone

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716551
>You think Koyori is able to brute-force herself into climbing in numbers just by streaming a lot?
She already did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716551
It seems to be working, before this she just a waiting rooms for others

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716551
Yes
Yes
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
A new business model

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716542
Adblock does get counted iirc. Anons tested this theory months ago when they were trying to figure out what triggered someone to not get counted. I think the end result was that it has to do with watch history I think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716638
>But this is an insanely stupid system.
Yeah, tell that to Youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716542
>>23716638
no that cant be true
I tested with some 0 view streams before and AdBlock users got counted
also if they don't, SEA streamers won't be able to get big numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
STREAM THE FUCKING RASSLING ALREADY FFS IT'S EASY CONTENT AND YOU FUCKS ACTUALLY KNOW ENGLISH

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
>old internet legend retiring
>a legit musician
>unironically HoloES/HoloBR
and pretty much getting people that understands that they can literally make their life bucks by playing the gimmick for 3~4 years, vtubing is evolving just like esports and currently they are treating it like a dying fad

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
Actual management support. They were left to rot in terms of projects, they don't really have the power to use typical western draws (like react content, drama etc) either so might as well pump up the eastern shit like game shows, events etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716551
She's already doing it. She probably won't be a top tier member, but she is inclining for sure.
However, it isn't just "streaming a lot", she tries a lot of games (popular games and kusogames), collabs with a lot of people and does a lot of different streams.
Being under Hololive's brand will make you incline if you try hard enough, but you won't grow even if you stream a lot if all your streams are "12h playing Pokémon or Kirby"

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716563
It's pretty useful on twitch as that puts you up on the list of livestreams so you get more real people watching too, grow an actual fanbase, and then slowly turn off the bots so you're left with a legit audience. Youtube's discoverability is a joke tho so it's not as useful, but it's not meaningless either. Viewfarms, however, are very useful on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

Reimu is worming, by teh way

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716718
>>23716723
I though during the CCVID, anons tested and it gave out mixed result?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
The Genshin permission
No joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716563
You get more people talking about it and apparently more subs from people who hear about the thing and click on your stream.

also I'm pretty sure this was just a test for Vox's eventual 100k

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716785
Reimu is basically Vox's stream right now so no surprise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716805
I've seen other corpos/indies stream genshin and they didn't get any more numbers because of that, doesn't seem that groundbreaking for numbers to be honest

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716777
Youtube discoverability doesnt depend on numbers. Depends on content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716423
Sana would've been fine without the slew of unfortunate circumstances, from her model to her dog to her damn near breaking her back. Fauna and Bae are a mess though

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716563
Unironically? Exposure. Remember Suisei's 2view pet that inclined into 3view even though Suisei pretty much never interacted with her anymore aside from that one Tetris game? Or how that Prism girl get higher VOD views than all her previous streams even though Susan already worked her magic? Sometimes exposure is all you needed, and botting a stream to have egregious numbers will make tourists flock in for different reasons, such as to confirm whether there's a botting in action, or to see whether a new rising star suddenly appeared out of blue, or whether some huge yab is happening during the stream, etc. Of course whether they could retain those tourists are up to themselves though, unless it's a consistent botting every time they stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716836
Because Genshin is a boring streaming game, only the gachas stream are doing numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716563
People got aware of Sara from Prism because of her botted views, attracting people to look what's happenining

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716601
>I thought you still need a business Visa but according to rpr next trip apparently not.
You need a business Visa to legally conduct work in any country. It may be that it's not enforced for one-off situations because it'd be a waste of money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716842
Yes, hence the joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716785
This is actually depressing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716718
>Adblock does get counted
>>23716723
>I tested with some 0 view streams before and AdBlock users got counted
Depends on what your adblock is blocking. There are different types of filters that block
>ads
>trackers
>annoyances

Here is the log of what's getting blocked for me. Maybe that "ptracking" is the one that registers the CCV, maybe the "log_event", maybe all in unison.
Youtube leaves it deliberately obfuscated so people can't code bots to inflate CCV (heh)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716836
Its the groundbreaking for EN numbers.
Imagine Gura playng it,how much CCV
could she get?30K at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716785
>>23716892
>homo on stream
>worm appears
I'm sure this is totally a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.]

Time is over, post your best hag lewds

[Anonymous No.]

The thing is this CCVID thing doesn't seem to affect most big streamers like Doc, Ludwig and Indian, Spanish, SEA streamers so it probably won't ever be fixed
But beside that in term of VOD views HoloEN hasn't grown for more than a year

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716815
>more subs
chinkbots subs aren real subs zhang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
Actually streaming good games more regularly rather than spamming Apex/shitty indie or fucking Nintendo Switch games like SPLATOON 2 to fill up the steaming quota. Right now Council gives me the vibe that they only stream because there is no valid excuse for them to ask management for a break (Except Fauna)

[Anonymous No.]

>Do karaoke that peaks at 14k
>Do a followup stream
>Peak at 3.2k

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716934
>Its the groundbreaking for EN numbers.
Wut? NijiEN is playing Genshin for the longest time with no groundbreaking

Didn't it massively debuffed Elira?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716944
MIO GOLD
MIO GOLD
MIO GOLD

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716955
>The thing is this CCVID thing doesn't seem to affect most big streamers
You mean western streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716934
the chinks are even shilling their garbage game here now

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716934
Before? Easy.
RN ehh not so sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716995
Please understand chumbuds delusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716955
Lack of growth means slow recline since the number of new viewers are not enough to replace the old ones that stopped watching (because they got bored, they found a new oshi, they started college/work, they died)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716925
I just used the default uBlock Origin setting for my test (the most likely setup for most people).

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716934
There's nothing groundbreaking about Genshin anon. It would have fairly little interest for HoloEN's audience.

[Anonymous No.]

I think it's safe to assume that Niji and Holo won't be using the new raid feature anytime soon. So I guess CCV counting method are still safe

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716976
chinks already paid their viewfarms, pls understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717068
seems like something nijien would use

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717070
Nah they just moved over to Reimu >>23716892

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716995
Genshin numbers barely last and only do for gacha. See the retation on vox lateststream

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717087
I don't think they've used it so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716955
I mean, how can you grow when your site is actively culling your viewers? The way people grow is by having eyes repeatedly on them to get the attention of tourists. Going from 46k Gura down to 20k in 3 months would EASILY give people the impression that it was just a fad and that’s that. But if you see that 46k, you just KNOW something is happening and that incentivizes people to tune in

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717105
What gacha games can holoEN play?
Only Blue Archive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717068
Pretty sure NijiEn will use it. Not only are the livers numberfags, but remember this is the branch so pathetic they paid react streamers to react to them, put their songs in ads to boost views, and feature clippers on their main channels to encourage clipping. They pull out every single numberfag trick in the book on a MANAGEMENT level, so why would they not use raids?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717060
One thing, huge amount of player-> more tourist to click on your stream (especially during gacha).

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716925
if it's AdBlock I'm sure other streamers would be affected too, not just vtubers.
If I have to guess, I'll have to say it's probably related to region, language and view history. For example, Flip viewers don't watch ID streamers but if a lot of them suddenly decided to watch Reine, it will be suspicious to YouTube

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717128
This. Numbers beget numbers. EN vtubing in general was murdered in its crib when the 2020 slash happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717145
And Blue Archive has BunnyGirl event now,why does no one stream it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716602
kiara has done German fairy tales
Vox and pomu have done shakespeare
both to abysmal numbers
scripted gf roleplay streams like bae’s valentines seems to do pretty good
Can’t remember how Rosemi Night Live did

[Anonymous No.]

Does Nijisanji give free partial viewing of their concerts? I'm looking forward to see their eventual stats if so. Seeing that the official Niji channel is strong I'm gonna assume they would have extraordinary numbers once NijiFes comes up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717189
>YOU WATCH PEOPLE FORM ACROSS THE PLANET ON OUR GLOBAL PLATFORM?
>SUSPICIOUS AS FUCK BOY GET FLAGGED
Pajeets are fucking insane. I don't think I've willingly watched a video native to my eastern european country in my life, except like a few songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717128
not really, YouTube is not Twitch, you don't discover streamers there based on live views and the algorithm use VOD views which weren't being culled

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716934
It’s almost a 2 year old game, the buff is long gone

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717245
Food review
Bedroom review
Bathroom review
PC review
Meme review
Remiu I KNOW YOU ARE WATCHING!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>Noel playing triangle strategy
>5k
ooph

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716638
>>23716722
YouTube is trying to hedge against potential lawsuits over payouts. They cannot really prove that the users are watching or not watching or blocking ads, so if they show them as real, payouts have to be given and that loses them a whole lot of money. So the best that they got is slow down the process of confirmation of audience and hope that the AI can tell a legitimate user apart from a bot or a view farmer (haha, yeah).

If you were in YouTube's position, how would you go about staving off bots and improve user verification?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717340
I assumed the poster I replied to was talking about scripted content hence audio dramas and poems

[Anonymous No.]

Mito passed Choco.
Also, in the last month:
Flare = +4k
Mito = +19k
Choco = +9k

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717345
everyone i've seen play that gets absolutely atrocious numbers, wonder why people keep picking it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717345
I'm surprised it's that high. I was expecting 3-4k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717356
AdBlock is probably the worst theory out there even worst than "Susan hates vtubers", it's not AdBlock because Ludwig isn't being affected by it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717245
My bad, I forgot about some of these and I have never heard of the others. I do remember enjoying Kiara's storytelling, I wish she would do it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
Western cartoon-style VTubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717419
Flare self imploded even more after the implosion of sankisei
At least Noel had ER

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717356
Why the fuck doesn't twitch have this problem? Or any other site?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716805
Genshin is dead
It's extremely unfriendly to new players, so they would get a buff for the gacha stream and then fuck off because the story is garbage, the new content is just maps with random chests placed everywhere and the abyss takes forever to beat for a new player

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717472
I would become an anti if that ever happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717356
Wasn’t it theorized that they were trying to fight off crypto bots that were (and still are) running rampant? And all of those crypto channels were set to Japan iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717345
Who gives a fuck? Its a massive debuff game. She already have 13k+ stream earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717472
BEAN
MOUTH
VTUBERS

[Anonymous No.]

So Mio Gold right? Everyone
The Botted stream doesnt count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717486
I don't think you understand the SCALE at which Youtube operates in terms of how much video it delivers and how many ads they serve. Throw in google fuckery on top of it and well......

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716934

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717486
Twitch’s legal strategy is to pretend they don’t know about any of their ongoing problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717472
Please not SJW vtubers I swear if I see one.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717534
Definitely not now that the VOD views have been cut to reflect the real numbers yea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717419
I'm surprised Choco had passed Mito in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
Holo-Gacha or animated series

[Anonymous No.]

>connection with youtube gets fucky
>literally 0 fucking recovery even though it fixes itself
>it actually drops even more

ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>23715886
Depp vs Heard trial watchalong

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717565
So League is the highest on twitch.
They should play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717548
As a live streaming platform, Youtube is incredibly small compared to Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717356
retard, then why aren't they culling VOD views since that's where most people watch ads?
Also, you don't get paid out by views, you get paid out by the amount of people who watched ads (and they have different rate for users from different countries too)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717674
That requires them to be good. People don't watch bad players.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717486
Because they do have these problem and they're just ignoring it. YouTube just happens to be gigantic even when you put it next to actual social networks, let alone a dinky ass streaming site like Twitch. There is a reason why YouTube had been losing money for a very long time and why they are cracking on view counts real fucking hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717710
>People don't watch bad players.
No, this isn't true. For every pro player that can barely scrape by 2k views I can give you shitters who get more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717674
>They should play it
You must either be a pro, best solo champ or a toxic player like tyler1

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717345
noel doesn't care about numbers nor does she need them. hololive is just a sidegig to her

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717695
they cull vods and ccv. the only difference is we can see the vod views after processing, we never get to see the ccv after processing

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717676
>As a live streaming platform, Youtube is incredibly small compared to Twitch.
Extremely wrong
Numbers wise YouTube has a lot of big streamers from Japan, South and Southeast Asia and some from South America too
Money wise, YouTube could be smaller but I don't know how to take into account the corporate streams on YT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717676
Of course, but with as many EXISTING moving parts as Youtube already has, tacking on a Livestreaming service on top of it means there's plenty of places where shit can go wrong.
It doesn't help that Youtube kinda doesn't really give a shit about CCV for anyone that isn't already in their 'golden boys and gals' club since they still pay out regardless of what the CCV says at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717710
They dont need to be good If they have fun.Just like the Overwatch Collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

Since we’re in the topic of EN
1 day since she tweeted
>52k likes
>Seen almost 400k times
Well we can say for sure that the online crowd is alive and active

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717833
the money they get from vod ads makes up for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717695
What makes you think that they don't change the view counts to suit their needs, you fucking retard? Do we not have proof of this in this very thread? Hell, the whole point of ending the instant display for total VOD views was to verify all views in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717662
Written by Nasu
If you gonna go chunni with EN lore then let the expert handle it

[Anonymous No.]

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>43,953: Mio (Hololive)
>43,710: Sara Nagare (PRISM)
>38,234: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>35,393: Subaru (Hololive)
>29,276: Suisei (Hololive)
>25,305: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>24,668: Kanata (Hololive)
>24,624: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,912: Marine (Hololive)
>23,026: Miko (Hololive)
>22,953: Kanata (Hololive)
>20,539: Furen (Nijisanji)
>16,070: Korone (Hololive)
>14,810: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>13,596: Noel (Hololive)
>13,251: Hal (Neo Porte)
>12,975: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,542: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,287: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,096: Botan (Hololive)
>11,093: Ollie (Hololive)
>10,582: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,519: Ina (Hololive)
>10,254: Amelia (Hololive)
>10,247: Alban (Nijisanji)

I've read this thread and the prev with the screenshots from twitter and from the anon during the stream, and also the VOD drop at >>23715966

I'm keeping the same process mentioned during that Kuzuha-Hal close call
>>/vt/thread/S22813983#p22818110
and the one when Mille had that spike
>>/vt/thread/S22871649#p22876663

>open live-ranking at https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking
>delete the non vtuber from the list
>fix any peak that would change a position with the highest of mado, holostats, vrabi, vstats
>screencap, crop the pic
>copy the text
>paste text and pic to this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717832
No I told you it's not AdBlock for VoD or CCV because
>I tested with 0 view streams and I got counted
>many big streamers aren't affected by this
>YouTube doesn't pay you based on view, it pays you based on how much time your viewers watch your ads. If your viewers doesn't watch your ads, they'll pay you nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717662
holo alternative?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717796
Lol:WR
Keala SoloRank is only Gold,
she still got 2K CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717981
>snek not gold
THE FIX IS IN BOY, TALLY ANON HATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717796
>or a toxic player like tyler1
or OG Kuzuha

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717981
Wolf beats snake

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717981
Okay so blatantly botted streams are OK. Nice to know. What a joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718028
>OG Kuzuha
Any clips of what that was like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717942
Holy retard, CCVID is real but it's not because of AdBlock
You literally can test it yourself, just find a 0 view stream and watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717981
PRISM SILVER
>PRISM SILVER
PRISM SILVER
>PRISM SILVER
PRISM SILVER
>PRISM SILVER

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718086
The EN GOLD

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718060
I mean, wasn't that audience with Luxiem already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718086

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717981
16 holos
6 nijis
1 indie, 1 np
top 10 6-3-1 with the botted stream, 7-3 without it, holo gold
I personally wish it wasn't included but I understand the justification
Also, really good day for holos and a couple of mid nijis

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718072
There is a funny not that old one one where he slipped a little into
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLCkpEUxmxE

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/WORLDMUSICAWARD/status/1522247848242421760
how can we compete with this SEA girl numberbros

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718110
brainfart, wasn't that obvious* with Luxiem already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717981

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718108
First prism en gold?

[Anonymous No.]

I LOVE HAGS

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718086
Man it's a fucking good job liveranking missed her 45k peak and Miosha just about passed her by 200 because this thread would be in full nuclear meltdown right now had she won gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718080
I did back when CCVID started in December, and I get flagged instantly irrespective of login status, cache and even devices. So whatever YouTube does is particularly effective in my case. I basically had to stop any kind of "poweruser" behavior and sub to premium to get my account unflagged.

[Anonymous No.]

I LOVE HAGS, THEY ARE COMFY AND EASY TO WEAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718007
>2k
Those are midget numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717981
>>23718086
>>23718108
PRISMCHAD WE CAN NOT STOP WINNING

[Anonymous No.]

I never thought I'd say this but post the EN tally already coward

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718295
Well in my case it did got counted, both PC and Vance in mobile
Also, you'll have to remember most people watch youtube on their phone (90+%) and most of them don't know Vance so adblock can't explain CCVID

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717981

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717981
>Ollie mog 4 other people on the tally
Zombros status ?

[Anonymous No.]

>ENTALLY NIJIFAG
ENTALLY NIJIFAG
>ENTALLY NIJIFAG
ENTALLY NIJIFAG
>ENTALLY NIJIFAG
ENTALLY NIJIFAG
>ENTALLY NIJIFAG
ENTALLY NIJIFAG
>ENTALLY NIJIFAG
ENTALLY NIJIFAG

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718296
>wear
what the fuck anon ? how ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23717981
https://youtu.be/2l_6oIGTrbg

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718482
Skin them anon. It literally that easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718482
t. the serial killer from The Silence of the Lambs

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716976
And it even got a nice worm even though it had midget numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally recovered then wormed again. Guess they realize they needed to refresh their farm lmao

[Anonymous No.]

what is the "worm"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23718616
>>23718611

You can call it the "Chink dragon" if you want