STOP DRINKING

[Anonymous No.]

This is NOT funny anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
Please, keep drinking.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you watching a Mori solo stream then complaining about it?

[Anonymous No.]

Just stop watching her OP. She won't change.

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>>23710386
I am not complaining about her stream quality, she is cute. I want her to stop drinking.

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>>23710340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ro36uxdDrI

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>>23710391
But I am a parasocial freak, anon, I don't want my oshi die a slow sad death.

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>>23710340
Gotta learn from her senpais and done some very bad yabe at some point.
So yeah, keep going.

[Anonymous No.]

She needs to arrive completely wasted to a collab, that would be fun

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>>23710715
again?

[Anonymous No.]

Keep drinking. Destroy your body and commit an unspeakable yab while completely hammered.

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>>23710545
Just get parasocial with someone else. There are plenty of alternatives.

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>>23710340
filtered lmao

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>>23710340
A single glance to her IRL appearence and you'll know for sure that she will NOT stop drinking. Give up and find a better oshi

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>>23710715
She's frequently either drunk or hungover.

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>>23711425
I actually like her IRL appearance, she is cute, I watched her roomate's recent streams.
I am pretty liberal when it comes to girl's appearance, Mori is 8.5/10 for me (I really like tomboyish women), would hug and have a friendly talk.

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>>23710545
>I don't want my oshi die a slow sad death.
Just pick one that is not an alcoholic then. It's THAT easy.

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>>23714691
So, most of JP is out of the question

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>>23710340

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>>23710340
Lmfao she is NOT gonna stop drinking anytime soon.

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>>23711472
Yeah but she's always in control of herself. We're talking about her showing up Scarface wasted to a collab.

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>>23712348
If we find her to be a 8.5 now what was she just a couple years ago to you, an 11?..

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>>23712348
She is chunking up fast. Those recent pics from America.

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>>23710545
>parasocial for mori

damn tough break beat

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>>23712348
Have you seen her recent pictures? Alcohol is making her age like milk.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm kinda shocked she's managed to out-alcoholic Yukihana "I buy two beers at once to save the trip for the second & have my own sake" Lamy.

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>>23719749
She really is the DEAN of Hololive.

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Just don't drink around IRyS

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>>23723056
I never understood what the appeal of alcohol was. Like I understand the appeal of social drinking or a glass of wine at dinner. I mean I don't understand how drinking alcohol for the sake of it alone, and posting about it online got popular or why. On other boards and threads I have seen trips almost revel in posting about how they're drinking (at their pc) again. I never understood it, it's stupid, and they will actually become alcoholic and not be able to stop. What is cool about that?

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>>23723400
For those who are workaholics like her, it is a depressant that slows you down.

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>>23723400
some alcohol is tasty, but there's people whose goal in every night of going out is getting shitfaced

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>>23719834
I think the difference is Lamy is a low tolerance east asian who gets drunk pretty fast and has lighthearted fun at worst. Mori is your typical genetically inclined alcoholic who needs to keep upping the amount she drinks over time in order to get drunk at all. So it becomes just a joyless addiction for Mori where she doesn't want to show up for many streams or events anymore without making sure she is good and drunk beforehand.

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>>23723453
I don't really buy it. I've done hard 20 hour daily grinds before and whenever I had alcohol I would be so bad the next day and unable to do much.
>>23723454
Yeah but going out to drink is social drinking. Drinking alone for the sake of it at your pc is different.

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>>23723757
I'm not saying it's for everyone, but when you're an adhd (diagnosed) workaholic with her mind racing a mile a minute like her, alcohol slows her down and relaxes her. It's a crutch for her.

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>>23710340
Real rappers have heavy substance abuse issues anon, why stop your Oahu from following her dreams?

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>>23723757
Drinking, for white people, is pleasurable.

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>>23723943
So now you're saying it's self-medication with alcohol. But the problem is with the dopamine system, she should take her meds and not mix with alcohol. If that's what she says to explain it, but she's just making up excuses.

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>>23710340
Calli is just the WORST.

Good model wasted.

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>>23724169
Ehhhhhhhhhhh. My family has French and Irish roots and their drinking traditions, and alcoholics on both sides. I was given alcohol when I was basically a baby for laughs, and was able to drink since I was a kid, especially wine. Both of my parents have had problem behaviors drinking, and siblings too. I'm totally against regular alcohol though. Sometimes white people go too far that it makes alcohol repulsive for other white people

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>>23723400
It gives your brain happy chemicals and she doesn't have a lot of better options for happy chemicals

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I hope she's able to get it under control. If not for her own sake, then her friends/co-workers.
I don't watch much of her content at all, but I've had a number of friends and family die or severely fuck themselves or their lives up with booze that I wouldn't wish it on anyone. It's genuinely heartbreaking to watch.

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>>23724511
Mori doesn't have friends

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>>23723943
>>23724175
Self-medicating with alcohol is a pretty common bs excuse for aspiring alcoholics. It might be memes now but it might not be so funny in a few tears.

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>>23723943
but you treat adhd with stimulants

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>>23724551
the guys at TT

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>>23724551
If they aren't her friends why do they let her do work for them for free? Checkmate antis

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>>23724676
But alcohol is a happy stimulant >>23724463 right? Unless...

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>>23724175
I'm not saying it's a good idea or the right thing to do, I'm saying why it feels good to her, why it appeals to her so strongly.

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>>23724676
and you treat overwork and stress from overwork with alcohol.
(again, not saying it's smart to do and not a bad idea long term. it's what people do though)

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>>23723400
Drinking at the computer is unfortunately pretty fun.
I quit smoking weed in December after having been a huge stoner for nearly ten years, and I certainly drink more than I used to now. I used to never drink alone, but since quitting THC I began to drink on the weekends, and now I've been drinking two or three days out of the week. I'm trying to wind down sooner rather than later.
My parents are alcoholics; they go through a case of light beer together (ew) just about every day. It might be hereditary or it might just be because I was raised by alcoholics, but I seem to be a polyaddict. I just like substances too much.
>>23724169
Basically this.

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>>23725023
Is that what you think or what she said? Let's keep a certain amount of skepticism here. I know some people that say similar things but there is a poor correlation between explanations and what actually happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23723995
This. This is basically the famous rapper career pipeline minus the guns because Japan but everything else clicks into place. She really looks up on all that culture so it's normal she'll add substance abuse and use alcohol because again Japan.

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>>23725212
She has said so not as Mori

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>>23716788
I knew it wss bad soon after her debut when she was on TT podcast and complained about chat saying she was drinking a lot. Her defensiveness was a bad sign because it meant she's the type to double down when confronted with the truth.

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>>23725353
I mean the character is neither here nor there. Speaking from both personal experience and from an academic perspective don't outright trust their explanations. These explanations usually come after the fact and distract from what is really going on.

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>>23719613
Remember the Coco Meme Review collab? That was a lean fueled hour.
>>23723757
>going out to drink is social drinking. Drinking alone for the sake of it at your pc is different.
This is a classic cope, anon.

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>>23725493
I am not saying she should be doing it, I'm saying why it (in the short term) affects her positively.

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>>23724735
Is it free when they pay in dick?

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YOUR OSHI WILL DRINK THE STUPID BITCH JUICE

[Anonymous No.]

>>23725538
everything a streamer says on stream is always 100% true

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>>23725538
That is what she says. I understand this, and I know a lot of people with drinking problems that make up similar explanations, after the fact.

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>>23725601
Why would she be lying about why drinking appeals to her?

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>>23725650
Drinking feels good to her because it slows her down. That's simple and believable. I wish she'd stop and just organize better.

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>>23725176
This will sound like bullshit, but I replaced my weed and alcohol use with exercise and dieting. But objectively was addicted to it in sadly a similar way I have always been attracted to "Feeling Good". It wasn't the endorphins or runners high everyone talks about, it was the feeling of stepping on the scale and seeing the numbers go down.

I was obsessed with every pound, I did Keto, intermittent fasting, I joined a jogging group, and turned my life around... but in the evenings I was forcing myself to throw up when I ate too much... But I looked good, and I was addicted to it. I was working out every day until my muscles were jelly, I was jogging 50KM a week. I was looking good, I was feeling good, but I was still for all intents addicted to it.

I was losing 10 pounds a month at least, and as weird as this sounds, I would stand in front of the Mirror like Dennis from Always sunny and just look at my new body. I was obsessed, but felt attractive for the first time ever, it was strange, I had a new found confidence. By the end I went from 260 pounds down to 160. Went from a size 40 pant to size 32, it was amazing, as long as I didn't mention the daily purges. (fun fact, after a year of puking, you can puke on command, at least I can)

Sadly when Covid hit, I lost my job and things went pretty badly for me. I started smoking weed again daily and gained back 50 pounds since then. Ever since April I've been sober again and trying to get my shit together but the purging is back... I eat to much and feel guilty and run for the toilet... Man, it's rough. But I've lost 10 pounds... Here we go again

So, maybe take up self improvement

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>>23725505
That's just how it works. In social situations there is more pressure to conform to norms and various other effects that support drinking and binge drinking. When you are alone you don't have that.

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>>23725655
Because no one wants to say they're an alcoholic. Or often enough face their real issues.

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>>23710340
What did she do this time?

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>>23725677
You have drunk the kool-aid.

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>>23725655
And yet they do, so much so that it is part of the symptomatology of having a drinking problem.

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>>23725747
She's not even saying that she's not an alcoholic by this statement by itself, just why she likes drinking. Don't know why that's unbelievable.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder Mori drinks on the job.

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>>23725918
Doomposting

[Anonymous No.]

People lie about stuff and make things up that is convenient for them whenever an addiction is under scrutiny. You wont believe the kind of crap you hear constantly from people if you ever go outside and talk to one.

>but I could win lots of money, it's like a job
>but gaming actually makes you smarter according to one 11 person study
>but drinking helps me manage my emotions
>but drugs make me more creative and free my mind
>but cigarettes help calm me down and filter out the air pollution
>but I'm building up my immune system

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>>23725918
Wait, drunk AND stressed? I guess drinking didn't help as well as she said it did. How curious...

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>>23726199
Drinking doesn't solve your problems, it just makes you focus on the new ones it helps make.

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>>23726141
>I could get a lot of (You)s
I know, it's sad right?

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>>23725712
>AH FUCK IM GONNA IMPROOOV
Really though, good on you Anon. Maybe next time focus the energy you had on obsessively dropping weight and channel that into something else so you don't fall into the scale drop/purge cycle. Trust me I've been there.

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>>23710715
She's hungover so fucking often during collabs.

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>>23726694
Are you implying people are addicted to (You) baiting? ayylmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>23726141
what is the last one?

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>>23726141
But posting on /vt/ is like real social interaction, anon. It's better than my family who barely talks to me and friends who drifted away over the past decade.

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>>23726141
>But drugs and alcohol are the only reason I haven't suicided

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>>23726976
People that pick their nose or eat trash or sex addiction?

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>>23710545
Then drink along with her and die together, faggot

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>>23710340
KEEP DRINKING

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>>23725918
i mean on the mamamori stream she literally said "i do vodka shots before every stream".

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>>23728651
Timestamp?

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>>23725712
>This will sound like bullshit,
Nah man, that doesn't sound like bullshit at all. I completely understand.
I've been really consistent with body weight exercise and intermittent fasting up until the latter half of last month when my drinking really started to ramp up. I gained a little bit more weight back last month, but I'm still only like five pounds overweight which is certainly better than I can say for myself when I was in the depths of stonerdom. I'm 5'11" and 180 lbs right now; I spent most of the 2010s bouncing between 200 and 220 lbs.
I really do need to do cardio and start lifting, though. I'm just lazy.

Weed is the fucking worst, isn't it?

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>>23728651
jesus christ she really is an alcoholic

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>>23728651
This was during the karaoke?

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>>23710340
ITT: cherryboies how think drinking is yuk yuk and bad because mommy told them so

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>>23730466
go to bed mori

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>>23730466
Anon are you drunk?

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>>23730466
I mean, drinking too much makes you fat and just isn't good for your liver. Drinking every now and then is just fine.

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I hope she keeps drinking and throws all over her keyboard on stream.

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>>23730466
This. Drinking is a time-tested way to warm up for situations. I'd do the same if I had to talk to retards in chat.

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>>23730466
both my mom and dad died because of alcohol abuse and they drank less than mori does now.

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>>23732198
would you do it every day ?

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>>23732519
Yes

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>>23726980
this one here actually almost ruined her life drinking, your oshi is fine...

t. a chumbud

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>>23710340
She's going to get so fat. I ballooned up over 60 lbs when I started drinking 500ml of liquor a day. Mori's well on her way.

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>>23719749
Didn't she run completely out of breath in the first 5 minutes of her 3D live?

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>>23732939
Give us a rundown on Gura's drinking

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>>23732519
Literally every day? No, but Mori doesn't either. 5 days a week is fine.

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>>23733139
ehhhh that's a lot

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>>23726141
>but I'm building up my immune system
mousey...

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>>23733139
Mori "I'm not an alcoholic, I haven't had a drink in 2 days" Calliope doesn't either?
Mori "These days I drink hard liquor straight from the bottle to get wasted" Calliope doesn't either?
Mori "I'm sorry I hit the drankies too hard" Calliope doesn't either?
Do you really believe that?

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>>23733040
how is this a bad thing?

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>>23723400
Drinking is for retards, you don't have to understand it. It's just like suicide. An easy way out. When I see a drunk stumbling around the hallways and then hear them puking their guts out in the morning, I just think, "oh to have it so easy". The three or four times in the past fifteen years I gave in to drinking in a moment of weakness, I immediately realize I should be doing this everyday and while the quality of my life overall would go down, the amount of happiness I'd feel would go up. It's no different from drugs generally in that sense. But when I'm sober I just choose not to reengage.

[Anonymous No.]

Mori cute. I love my Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23733795
same

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>>23733890
>021.png
Anon, what folder is this from? What is the theme of the folder?

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>>23733460
Because the kind of disgusting fat slob you become as a raging alcoholic is not cute, architect or not.

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>>23733661
>"oh to have it so easy"
who talks like this, I bet you have a lisp and are a huge faggot
alcohol is fun just don't go crazy, now go back to learning liberal arts retard

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>>23733120
if you know, you know. I'm not repeating it here.

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>>23730466
>I have to drink strong alcohol before I do anything non-trivial
>but I'm not an alcoholic!
>you're just dumb!
uh huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>23733922
i keep things organized planned out, you might say

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>>23710378
Beer Belly Calli

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>>23729430
Seriously. Weed took away 10 years of my life I will never get back. Good on you for losing that, don't worry about a relapse here and there.

It gets easier to 'climb back on the wagon' so to speak every time.

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>>23733120
Back when she was S******a, she drank a ton, now she doesn't. She is a much better place

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>>23734138
Anon, do you seriously have a folder of over 60 images calling people fat? That's a bit... Obsessive.

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>>23712348
>that
>8.5
She is less than half as attractive as she was not even 5 years ago

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>>23726141
I am an extremely anxious person. Smoking marijuana keeps me stable. I tried going to a doctor but all they did was give me meds that made it feel like someone was jamming a red hot poker in my dick when I jerk off.

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>>23725505
>Remember the Coco Meme Review collab? That was a lean fueled hour.
Nah that was just her regular akwardness. If she was drunk she would've not been that much of a dead fish

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>>23723400
>I mean I don't understand how drinking alcohol for the sake of it alone
It's called self-medicating

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>>23710340
We just want her not to die because we love her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
https://youtu.be/E0RnhcLP-jY

[Anonymous No.]

>>23734473
>5 years ago
More like 1 year before she joined Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>23733106
That was more a problem with singing most her songs live. She doesn't write in any pauses for breathing. She recovered within a few seconds once a song was done.

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>>23727684
>People that pick their nose
But eating your snot DOES improve your immune system, it's just gross and thus shouldn't be done anyway because the improvement is mostly negligible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23734358
more like OBESEive

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>>23725238
where is she on the timeline to end up dead before 30, like other musicians?

[Anonymous No.]

When I was talking to my weeb friends that only loved anime characters years ago I would never have thought they would like an obese middle class white girl with a drinking problem that idolizes rap culture. Somehow having a good character model washes away all the grime and dirt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23735059
27 club here we go!

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>>23734925
You need to share that folder with /ag/

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>>23723056
Sad!

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>>23734538
>Smoking marijuana keeps me stable
Bro… speaking from experience, you need to get a handle on that. If you smoke every day it’s gonna make your anxiety worse. Smoking weed is not good for anxiety at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>23735761
>it's gonna make your anxiety worse
Very person dependent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23735785
Excuses always are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23735785
I really don’t agree, but you know yourself better than I do.
It’s a recreational drug. You smoke it to get high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23735821
I'm not even that Anon. It's the same as alcohol. Everyone reacts differently to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23735845
I understand. Everyone reacts differently in a very consistent and measurable way just like everyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23735845
>It's the same as alcohol. Everyone reacts differently to it.
Ten things Cali would say when confronted with her drinking problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
>anymore
It never was

[Anonymous No.]

>>23735845
So, marijuana is the same as alcohol, another drug that has no business being used as an anxiety medication. Got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23735785
Have you ever been around someone that smokes weed regularly and has for years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23736238
No no no no, the marijuana is for anxiety, the alcohol is for the mood, and the cocaine is to calm them down.

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>>23725743
>he doesnt turn into a runaway alcohol-guzzling train after 2-3 shots of hard liquor
good for you, anon

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>>23736314
Oh of course bro, of course. I’m sorry for being such a buzzkill.
My favorite is when I hear people say that they smoke to help themselves sleep, completely ignoring the fact that THC prevents you from entering REM sleep.

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>>23736238
I did not say they were the same. You're actively misrepresenting me. I said they are similar in that people react differently to it. Meaning you can't say it will spike someone's anxiety. Literally all.
>>23736280
Yes. They are perfectly normal. I've known them since before they started smoking weed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
What's not funny?

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>>23736538
All interactions are complex because you are dealing with a system that modulates and mediates at various stages. That doesn't mean that it works differently for everyone. Imagine if that was the case and how impossible it would make studying it and treating it, let alone profiting from it.

t. neuroscience major

[Anonymous No.]

>Shes an alcoholic
>Shes fat
>Shes ugly
>Muh lean
The absolute state of mori antis, its like watching the fat chicks gossip about the popular girls.

[Anonymous No.]

Lead bullets to the brain doesn't really affect me. Everyone reacts differently to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23736748
But anon, any amount of lead is highly toxic.
>Everyone reacts differently to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23733986
Liberal arts retards are the ones drinking you dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23736748
I actually get the opposite of high when I smoke weed. I turn into Superman and my penis gets three inches longer

[Anonymous No.]

>>23736538
I really don’t mean to be a downer anon, but give it some time. Everyone I know on the other side of 25 who kept smoking weed every day isn’t doing so great. It’s not a healthy habit and it’s expensive.

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>>23710340
If she wants to destroy herself with alcohol, that's fine. The unironically disgusting thing about her is that she's trying to pull down other holomems with her though. I don't understand how everyone else on this board can be so chill about that. She's literally trying to get everyone to drink constantly. Fuck her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23725712
Stop binging nigger just fucking eat less

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>>23734236
Same here man. Quitting is the best decision I’ve made in the last ten years. I’m glad I had the foresight to never try opiates, coke or amphetamines like so many people I grew up with; I’d probably be a goner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23737059
Who she tried to drag down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23737198
Opiates are fucking amazing. Don't do opiates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23730917
That would be sad but hopefully the wakeup call she would need. If her fucking unicorns and Goslings don't try to excuse her behavior on the chat that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23730466
seething replies lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>23736718
I'M JUST SO FUCKED UP
ON THAT PURPLE LEAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>23730466
Preach, brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23737476
BOUT TO SHOW THIS BITCH WHAT A MURDER MEAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>23734925
>313

[Anonymous No.]

>>23737438
If someone is popular how can they be wrong? It's not unique to anyone, it's pretty universal that chat are almost always enablers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23726976
people that live in filth (clean your room)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23738014
>it's pretty universal that chat are almost always enablers.
Many such cases. It's almost terrifying how much chat will encourage the most degenerate, self-destructive behavior on stream, chubba or not. Maybe it's also time to get real that some of the v-tubers are mentally ill NEETs like some of their fans are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23738177
I'm way ahead of you. Many streamers and by extension vtubers display problem behavior. Not just substance abuse but how they interact with and treat viewers too. The vtubers just have the benefit of hiding their flesh self behind an imaginary anime character. Unfortunately people like watching schizos and drug addicts self-destruct because they're more interesting than watching office ladies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23735761
>speaking from experience, you need to get a handle on that
Speaking from experience I've attempted quitting three times but every single time I get about five days in before I become a bundle of nerves and end up in an argument with someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23724463
she makes 6 figures from playing video games. there's not a whole lot to be unhappy about. stress from overwork is on her, no one asked for her shitty raps or second channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23738603
You need to try harder if you really want to quit. You sound like you want to if you tried three times already. You can't use getting in an argument with someone as an excuse to use a drug that you yourself decided you should quit using.
The same thing happened to me and I'm glad I quit. That's a symptom of withdrawal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
This is all leading to the Mori goes to rehab arc. She'll then do her return stream while being showered in more supas than her birthday and anniversary streams just for her to start drinking again.

[Anonymous No.]

Thank God I will never drink or smoke, even if it means losing a job because muh social activity

[Anonymous No.]

>>23737328
Pretty much everyone she ever interacted with. She told different people that she'd get them "fucked up" if they met up in Japan. Including Ina and multiple IDs, both of those instances were especially cringe because you could tell those people don't drink/get drunk. Not to mention the IDs could get in trouble with ID schizos.
Also both Bae and Irys were hung over on stream after interacting with Mori recently.
She wants people to down a bottle of liquor every day like she does because that's her hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710378
Oddly kinda hot ?
Is my brain gonna be ok bros........

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741102
Fatfag brainwashing...it happens to lot of us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741067
I know this is bait from a threadreader, but Bae was never hungover on stream. Nor has Mori ever been the reason Bae drank. She didn't show up for a collab once and Mori said it was because she was hungover, but that was just Mori being a dumbass and giving a shitty excuse for what actually happened which was that Bae passed out from exhaustion and cat related stress. She was trying to cover for the girl (as Bae didn't want to talk about the cat stuff on stream yet) without realizing saying that she was probably hungover would look worse for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23740256
A terrible fate and a unique life, just like many other celebs that are emulated. All the same unique repeated story everyone has heard before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741891
Oh Mori lied and somehow makes things worse?
That TOTALLY makes it better.
Still doesn't negate all the other things I pointed out. Literally invited Muslims to get drunk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23738603
The first time I quit after smoking ten years, the first 2 months were hell, the disassociation, the constant anxiety, the sweats, and the biggest is the insomnia.

Every day I would keep a journal, at first I used it to time my use as I weened myself. I have pages and pages of schedules like "6PM 0.3g" "9PM 0.3g" 12AM 0.3g" and then how I was feeling, some days are just insane scribbles of suicidal ideation, some days are sad reasons to keep trying, but some days are genuine happiness and feelings of accomplishment from doing something about it finally.

And slowly my journal became less about my suffering and more about how I was getting better by the day. Sleep was finally back but I had extreme lucid dreams where I couldn't distinguish them from reality until I woke up. It was very intense. But the biggest thing was my anxiety was toned down a huge amount, so much was caused by my smoking.

And from that point there are many ups and downs, but quitting has never been as hellish as those few months were. I've relapsed a few times in the years since then, but I've gotten sober quicker and the withdrawal is easier every time. Addiction is something I'm probably always going to have to watch out for but I'm getting better and better at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
Nothing wrong with drinking.
Fuck you for being a normie shit, why are you even watching vtubers if you're a normie? Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741891
This is objectively false, she was extremely drunk in her unarchived Karaoke the night before, to the point where she is sloppily slurring, something that only happens when you are deep in. Or are you going to say she was just exhaustion there too?

Look, I understand the damage control, you like Bae, I like her too, but don't try and lie. This happened, deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23738603
This is the exact same logic people use to avoid losing weight, it's literally the same thing. Just admit you prefer the easy path in life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741067
Ina seemed to go along with her which is where I lost respect for Ina honestly. I don't know if Ina is a drunk but even just pretending she was one to be cool was enough for me to lose interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23742621
>This is the exact same logic people use to avoid losing weight
I walk six miles every day fuck off. At least the other guys have something meaningful to say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23742368
Have you ever been drunk, anon? My hangovers don't last the whole fucking day. You pop an ibuprophen and drink plenty of water and you're good by the afternoon. Bae retweeted the collab 4 hours before, she fully intended on showing up. She fell asleep. She told us she fell asleep. We already knew she wasn't getting enough sleep because of Beastie. She repeatedly told us before this incident that she had to wake up multiple times in the middle of the night to take care of her cat. She's talked about only getting four hours of sleep before. She took a fucking break suddenly because of how tired she realized she was. If you don't want to believe Bae that's on you, but don't act like the signs weren't there or that being 'hungover' is the only logical reason Bae didn't show up to that collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741067
gura was another person she wants to get drunk while they're in japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>23742755
Yes, when I get drunk I wake up fucked, and the rest of the day is nausea combined with a pounding headache. Maybe if I drank more often I'd build a tolerance and be good to go later in the day but sadly I don't, weed was my crutch,

I know lots of my friends who drank a lot are like you though, I was always so jelous when after hitting the bar the night before they would wake and, and as you say pop some painkillers and chug a lug some water and they'd be fine, but they were heavy drinkers who always hit the bars every weekend.

Honestly, I think you are just talking from someone who drinks compared to someone like Bae and myself who don't regularly drink. And I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just not able to relate. I do have hangovers that last the day, but also I am Asian and certain races take to alcohol very differently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23742259
Hate to break it to you but alcohol and excessive drinking or getting shit faced drunk is the definition of normie culture. The definition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23743149
Oh no, I'm a fucking light weight graced by the same asian genes as Bae. I get wasted with just a can and a half of beer and only drink when with friends. I just always make sure to drink with a glass of water on the side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23719834
by all accounts lamy cares about the taste and feeling of drinks where as mori, by her own admission, pounds hard liquor straight from the bottle only in order to induce drunkeness. Lamy is a fan of alcoholic beverages, mori is an alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23742078
It's okay, she didn't know they were Muslim or anything about indo laws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23742259
Wow, anon. Hahaha. You fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Alcoholic here. Just so you know, alcoholism isn't how much you can physically drink but the psychological need to drink. Here are some examples of my alcoholism:
- Getting mad at friends who said they'd give me a ride home but staying so late that the stores have to legally stop selling alcohol (NY)
-Looking at 4 beers and thinking 'Wait, I need a few more so I don't run out'
-Plain ol' getting hammered
-Worried that I won't get a 'feel good' buzz, so I drunk more
-'Rewarding' myself for getting through another week of work
-Taking nips from a bottle as long as I don't get drunk
-Confessing to my parents that I'm an alcoholic then that night going out and buying beer

I think all my dieting and working out at the gym partly is so I can drink on the weekends. Anyways alcoholics don't really care about taste. At my worst I used to drink Milwaukee's Best and Natty Ice, two piss water beers but they were cheap and they got you drunk. As an alcoholic you don't care about the taste, the only thing you care about is the Alcohol % number on the bottle. Since Mori buys cheap wine you know she's not drinking it for the taste and if she's drinking lean, well lean is just another cocktail if you think about it and cocktails are a fast way to get wasted. Anyways I think Mori is an alcoholic and it's not like we can turn a switch on or off inside ourselves, quitting drinking is a very hard thing to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23742735
>at least they coddle my feelings
I don't give a fuck what you do with your life, it's the way you present yourself as the noble victim that is so disgustingly arrogant. As if the world isn't literally full of people in the exact same situation who still choose the right option and pushed through the resultant suffering. Have your addiction, but making excuses for it is pathetic. Nobody cares.

[Anonymous No.]

Is she actually getting drunk for every stream?
my oshi does that but at least they make the stream entertaining as well jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
I don't know the context, but drinking alcohol is cringe. A beer once in a while with a nice meal is fine, but anything more is unnecessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23743605
Nobody is confused what an alcoholic is, the things you describe have nothing to do with being an alcoholic, those are just the symptoms of being a worthless sack of shit. Being an alcoholic means when you are in a hospital for days without any alcohol in your system you die. Which isn't incurable either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23723400
Heavy drinking, especially alone, is almost always self-medicating or coping mechanism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23743811
No anon, what he described was alcoholism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23743881
He may be an alcoholic but none of those things prove you're an alcoholic or even have anything to do with alcohol. You can swap out the word alcohol in there for countless other things and it's still a type of person. What makes a real alcoholic unique from most other addictions is they can literally die if you cut them off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23743487
Worst thing is that she downs "premium" liquor like blue label by her own admission. She literally acts like a rapper stereotype. I'm surprised she hasn't crashed a bunch of Buggatis while drunk driving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23743990
I really don't agree anon. An alcoholic is someone addicted to alcohol. I'm not trying to downplay the severity of alcohol poisoning or withdrawal by saying that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23723495
>>23743487
this
wamy is a liquor connoisseur, mori is just a typical roastie drunkard

[Anonymous No.]

I never seen people care so much about someone they hate before...

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744251
This is how the anti brain works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23743990
You are wrong. You are so unbelievably wrong I'm not even mad, I'm astonished.

https://www.alcoholrehabguide.org/alcohol/

[Anonymous No.]

>>23743811
>>23743881
>>23743990
>>23744079
Sounds like people here are confusing an addict and an alcoholic. Tons of crossover obviously but are distinct things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744397
No, an alcoholic is a person is his addicted to alcohol. Alcoholics are addicts. Alcoholism is an addiction to alcohol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744079
Perhaps I'm being too forceful to make my point understandable. The point is nobody needs a resident expert to come along and explain what fucking alcoholism is. A lot of the stuff he said is a bunch of meaningless horseshit and the thing he's actually describing is called addiction, something every adult on this site understands. Nobody needs a pretend alcoholic's perspective. Not every addiction gets a new word coined to describe them but at the core they are all the same shit.

He says alcoholism is the psychological need to drink, that is just addiction. But alcohol is unique from other addictions in that it has a class of people for whom it is a physiological need to drink. Those people need medical help but for the psychological people, there's nothing unique or special about them or their insight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744444
But that guy is an alcoholic. I don't see why his post upset you so much, honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
>Watch Mori
>Get introduced to lean
>Lay in bed for 3 hours
>"Welp time to hit that lean"
>Unironically drink lean every day or else I can't fucking sleep

[Anonymous No.]

>watch mori
>dies of cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>23736718
she is an alcoholic, though, that's pretty cringe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744515
Because I hate retards who try to glamorize their failures and act like they have special holy knowledge at life because they FAILED a trial other people successfully overcame.
>and it's not like we can turn a switch on or off inside ourselves, quitting drinking is a very hard thing to do
Like no fucking shit. He has no indication he has any intention to better himself but wants people online to look to him for advice on the situation. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744444
>He says alcoholism is the psychological need to drink, that is just addiction.
>But alcohol is unique from other addictions in that it has a class of people for whom it is a physiological need to drink.
>a class of people for whom it is a physiological need to drink.
>a physiological need to drink.
You literally just agreed with him dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23733890
how are these pics real lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744754
I realize dyslexia must be hard but the first word refers to the mental and the second word to the physical.

[Anonymous No.]

Will people over-analyze and redefine alcoholism and addiction to save their oshi?

yes duh

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744739
He wasn't offering advice, though. I got the impression that he just wanted to share some thoughts of his. I don't really think he was trying to glamorize his failures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23743712
>it's the way you present yourself as the noble victim that is so disgustingly arrogant
Says the armchair psychologist that thinks his shit doesn't stink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744783
Because god has an excellent sense of humor and loves us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744832
He was establishing himself as an expert on the topic to then ultimately give bad advice about how you shouldn't expect better from Mori because just like him she is weighted down by this special burden only alcoholics have called "quitting is hard guys!".

[Anonymous No.]

>>23734358
My FPH folder is 2000+ images

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744872
>that thinks his shit doesn't stink.
Nowhere is that implied, but of course you'd deflect that way. I don't genuinely hate you, just your attitude, I hope you get better someday.

[Anonymous No.]

Question to alcoholic anons - if you had a loving gf who is ready to hug and give you comfort during shitty moments in life, would you still be drinking as much as you do?
Will a good bf/gf able to cure mori from alcoholism?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744977
Listening to my drunk neighbors beating their girlfriends, I'm going to guess no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744914
I see where you're coming from, but it can be hard and I don't think there's any shame in sharing that on an anonymous imageboard. I get what your issue is with that guy now, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744977
Alcoholics have relationships and get married too. Their relationships are often troubled and end up abusive because the long term effects of alcoholism lead to higher frequencies of aggression and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744977
Fuck yeah id still be drinking. And no you cant fix her with dick. You might be able to distract her for a bit until she realizes drunk sex is still fun even if you dont remember most of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744437
>an alcoholic is a person is his addicted to alcohol
Everyone knows this is the case for an alcoholic but it is oversimplified and not even necessarily true. The point for an alcoholic is always the alcohol so if they quit drinking, they don't typically take up another addiction. By contrast, the point of an addict is the addiction. Thus, an addict may be addicted to alcohol and has all the symptoms of an alcoholic but quitting drinking typically just results in changing addicitons, be it exercise, video games or sex/porn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744971
>Nowhere is that implied
Bullshit. You open with how you "don't give a fuck" what someone else does with their life and then start psychoanalyzing other people and declaring them arrogant while simultaneously calling them pathetic. Stop sniffing your own asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744914

>>23743605 here. I play tennis but I don't consider myself an expert in the sport. I'm an alcoholic but I don't consider myself an expert on the topic. With one simple statement I have rendered your accusation moot and invalid. But honestly I have no clue why you are so mad but I'm also wondering why you make up stuff. I said quitting is hard which is true - quitting any addiction is hard - but I never said it was special to alcoholics. It's like you took what I said, ran it through a schizo filter, worked yourself up into a tizzy and started barking at me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23724169
Why are Americans obsessed with race? They're not even white.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710545
bro why it has to be Mori of all vtubers out there

[Anonymous No.]

>>23745555
Did I ask you to give a fuck about my life or ever suggest it was perfect? No I did not. You have chosen to read that into it so you can play victim. Which is exactly my problem with your attitude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23719759
bro she looks worse than she did a couple months ago she must be on meth or some shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>23734309
I keep seeing chumbuds say she "almost ruined her life" or was a "massive alcoholic" but they never even give an incident like the Connor porn review episode of Mori's. Did she say it herself, because that seems like something she would actively avoid mentioning or ever saying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23746982
btw how is conners relationship with her and rest of the girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23745708
Sorry you didn't get the headpats you wanted, maybe next thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23746748
Take your meds, schizophrenic nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>23743525
Nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>23740256
>Mori goes to rehab arc
Is this like House now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23747172
You have serious problems with the Internet, I recommend next time engaging with the people you said have something meaningful to say. Notice you never replied to them but instead wasted your time crying about the other reply so you could feel sorry about yourself. Just ignore it next time. You have to work at it first but you'll get there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23747083
Dunno. From the "Connor apologized to everyone" incident we know Kiara doesn't talk to him at all, and a teamate could probably talk about the theory Ame has Gigguk blocked on twitter or something. To my knowledge he doesn't have that many orbiters in Holo, just Mori and the zoombie though I might be missing one, I don't give a shit about the guy as much anymore since he seems to be getting his ego stroked by vshojo now and has left holo alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744251
Hate and love are both the result of passion. Apathy is what you get when people don't care about something. I don't want to dislike mori, I hate mori's drinking not just because it risks harming the other girls (gura and irys especially), but because somewhere there is a better, happier, healthier mori that I want to see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23742259
Getting drunk is the most normalfag shit to ever exist you fucking ape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23747930
what is "connor apologized to everyone" incident, and I never ever saw him with Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741067
mori talks about drinking like it's a hobby, her entire personality revolves around muh alcohol

[Anonymous No.]

>>23746748
>Did I ask you to give a fuck about my life or ever suggest it was perfect?
You're awful fucking judgy for someone in a thread about a virtual youtuber's drinking habits. Touch grass or take your meds (drugs). Your choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23749410
It was over the bit where people said Connor heavily implied he didn't think Holos were talented and they could be massive hacks and lie because of the name brand, then (probably former now) deadbeats brought it up to Mori where she then said that Connor apologized to everyone about it (I think she said "personally" or something that VERY heavily implied he'd done so individually), then when kfp casually asked Kiara about that she'd said that she wasn't in contact with any members of Trash Taste, basically making it look like Mori was a liar. Deadbeats typically defend it saying she'd never completely said he'd apologized to all of them individually and that she was just saying he'd said some kind of blanket apology when people misunderstood, and everyone else more or less says she purposefully phrased it in a way that made Connor look better. Just another incident on a long list, really.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm curious if there is a difference between streams where mori is 100% sober and streams where she drink before/during.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
Did she ever have to go to the doctor because of her alcohol addiction?
If the doctor can't stop her, I don't know who can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
the more drunk she is, the better chance I have with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>23734925

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744783
>>23744880
the good lord has a plan

[Anonymous No.]

>>23744525
Where do you get your codeine (in Minecraft)? Assuming you are a fellow burger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23749410
this https://files.catbox.moe/3pgjhx.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>23745122
THIS. Drunk sex is fucking fun. The shit I've done with my exs when we are drunk is fucking satisfying

[Anonymous No.]

>>23724463
Alcohol is a depressant. It doesn't produce happy chemicals, but it fucks your body up enough for you to either forget or stop caring that you're miserable.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worse than Lamy's drinking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23751500
>>23743487

[Anonymous No.]

>>23750780
I mean the traditional burgers that invented lean get it from cough syrup. But that may be an outdated thing or differ state-by-state. I don't think I've ever lived in such a place where you can get codeine without a prescription but I admit I've never looked into it. The only codeine I've ever had was in something that has zero effect, morphine doesn't do shit anymore and even a hydromorphone overdose was negligible in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23751922
>morphine doesn't do shit anymore and even a hydromorphone overdose was negligible in the end
Uhhh, you alright Anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23751922
they changed it so that you need a presciption now
but you can still buy codeine cough syrup without a prescription in japan, that's why Mori moved there

[Anonymous No.]

>>23752127
You think it's that bad, that she moved primarily for that reason?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23752261
Drugs are evil, they twist your mind and break you every second you aren't using them. Of course she left to get the damn codeine, she's a damn druggie whose only way to be saved is a merciful quick death like all druggies must be

[Anonymous No.]

>>23752261
well, that and her stalking some jrapper manlet. 50/50 of each. Her life is a sad tale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23726976
Shooting yourself with smaller caliber bullets to build up your resistance to larger calibers

[Anonymous No.]

>>23750796
Why exs?

[Anonymous No.]

She's not going to stop until she does something stupid live on stream, like puking all over her keyboard and name namedropping staff. I hope she does something not too terrible, but bad enough that her friends approach her and actually have a serious talk with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23752981
I mean, unfortunately we as viewers don't have any pull here. We can worry, but it won't change a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

I mean, she even let it slip that she has a tendency towards alcoholism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OLw6nhPWhA

[Anonymous No.]

>>23753521
I'm not worried, if she makes the decision to crash and burn its on her. Just don't take anyone else with you. That's the reason why people have so much of an issue. They aren't worried about her, they're worried about the fallout that comes with alcohol abuse. Many people on this site especially come from places where they get shit on in life so they have more than likely seen shit like that first hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23754371
I just don't want her to do something that affects the other members, e.g. accidentally doxxing a member by using their real name, or something stupid like that. She's free to shrink into a ball and shrivel up on her own if she wants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23752981
>>23753521
>>23754371
Worst case scenario she goes to rehab and goes back to live with her middle class parents. It gets kind of parasocial if you worry too much about her when there are probably other people in your vicinity you could actually help. They're entertainers that none of us know personally and they're old enough to make their own bad decisions. I do feel sorry for rich celebs that go in and out of rehab but they sure do live in a different world huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23755231
Let me be clear, I do not care about Mori. I do not want Mori to harm or cause distress to my oshi. Which is completely possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23755231
>middle class lamborghini

[Anonymous No.]

>>23755572
>us: middle class are well paid factory workers
>elsewhere: middle class are doctors, lawyers, politicians, factory workers are working class

[Anonymous No.]

>>23756089

[Anonymous No.]

>>23756089
In North America middle class is broken up into three classes itself, upper middle and lower. Low class are people on food stamps. Lower middle are people who live in townhouses, middle middle are people who live in semi detached, and upper are people who own property for real. Mori is upper middle class, and they don't understand how well they have it since they think they are middle class.
t. Someone who was on foodstamps but now am in a semi detached

[Anonymous No.]

>>23756089
>US
>factories

[Anonymous No.]

Damn it Mori you have lupus

[Anonymous No.]

>>23729430
>weed is the fucking worst isn't it.
Not him but It really is, I smoked weed for a big part of my life and I regret every single moment of it.
I cant stand weed culture and people who praise it like its the second coming of Jesus.
It is just like any other drug, it will take years of your life away and give you nothing in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23756363
I understand that. It's like vanity sizing for socio-economic status. You too can be middle class. Here we just call it being poor, broke, working class. People would laugh if you told them that the middle class was on food stamps or didn't own their home or at least paying a mortgage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23758617
He explicitly said lower class are the ones on food stamps. Lower class is what Burgers call working class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710340
With how much of a poser Mori is, do any of you truly believe she drinks as much as she says she does?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23740256
Just like any pop star with drinking/drug problems. For fuck sake it never ends.
Have the fame and money and they always end in this cycle.
I fucking bet these pop stars only do this because they don't have any inspiration left to write lyrics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23758844
He said lower middle class. It reminds me of a conversation I had with my gran one day and I asked her if she was middle class.
>goodness no, well we're not doing too bad, but certainly not middle class

My grandparents owned a detached three story granite house and were self employed with enough to take 2-3 holidays every year. I had a good chuckle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23759226
What the fuck do they think middle class is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23742178
This is genuinely good to hear anon. Keep on winning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23759226
Not about food stamps he didn't. I realize the reading comprehension is difficult because they don't use the same terms across the pond. Notice he said there are three tiers of middle class (lower middle, middle middle and upper middle). But then he also describe a fourth class on food stamps which he called low class. This fourth class were not middle class people in his post, they are what people who don't hate the poor call "working class".

[Anonymous No.]

>>23759339
Surgeons and judges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23734925
post 123.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>23732198
>>23737475
>>23737440
>>23730466
>>23742259
addictfag cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>23741102
Welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23755231
>middle class parents
RUMAO, worst part is she honestly thinks she was poor. And I'm saying this as someone who is probably wealthier than her.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone describe her living situation for me, I need to understand how much I should hate her as someone who ate food out of a dumpster as a kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23738603
>train your brain for years to think the only deterrent for anxiety is weed
>wtf I get anxious if I don't smoke weed????
You're a genius bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23758979
Pop stars barely write their own lyrics if ever. Pop stars are usually just good looking and marketable normalfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23760673
If you piece together all the childhood stories she told onstream you'd realize that her parents are very wealthy upper middle class. They're not 1%, but they're loaded.
The worst thing she told onstream is that her grandfather taught her how to drive in his Ferrari.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23760898
Yeah. I hate her.

[Anonymous No.]

Old World class systems are based on your ancestry while New World class systems are based on how much money you have. The idea that your parents were of a lower class only matters in the Old World because no matter how much money you ever make in life, there's an entire class of people who will look down on you even if you have more than them. But in the New World you can change classes, and as she is now upper class, whatever she came from is completely irrelevant (even if we pretend it was literal poverty like some famous American billionaires claim). It doesn't build any character or identity because nobody thinks she's whatever she came from. All those people who were a class above her growing up are now beneath her and if/when she squanders all that money again she'll be lower class and nobody will care that she ever had any money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23760898
her grandparents are loaded but cut off her mom when she was young because she tried to focus on music. they paid for her going to catholic school, a place where she was bullied mercilessly and had the worst time of her life

her mom worked 2 jobs and they lived on shitty tv dinners and hot pockets for years and all the JET stuff she did was completely self funded

in short mori is a land of contrasts

[Anonymous No.]

>>23761095
Cuckbeat, don't force me to get myself banned to prove you wrong. Half the board knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>rapper gets famous for making it with an underdog story
>raps about their struggles
>turns out they were from a rich family
please don't tell me it's actually true

[Anonymous No.]

>>23761041
Yeah but old world is also based on other things than ancestry now. New money was more of a thing in the Victorian era, unless we're talking about peerage and upper class today. A difference seems to be how middle is defined with it being more like a median in the new world and a mean in the old world meaning richfags pull the bar up higher and leave a larger poorfag class. Still it's mainly about how you identify and how people identify you, and she identifies with rap culture and a street mythos, even if it's questionable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23761485
What if I told you nobody wants to watch poverty because it's not pretty? I doubt many internet celebs were ever truly poor. Even most indies are just rich kids able to afford a model and equipment or well paid adults with a professional job. It's all fake.

[Anonymous No.]

On a side note: Ame kyut!

[Anonymous No.]

>>23761780
i don't care if other chuubas are rich, my main gripe is with mori if she's pulling the "woe is me" in her songs while being loaded. if she and her mom were cut off from the money then it's understandable

[Anonymous No.]

>>23733890
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>23762478
She was probably somewhat "poor" (as in she only had the money her parents and shit gave her, so not actually that poor) and almost certainly because she's dumber than dog shit lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>23716553
Oshi Botan!

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710545
imagine all those women who had elvis as their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>23710545
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