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23694900 No.23694900 [Reply] [Original]

So, what’s /vt/‘s opinion on men who use female rigs or whatever? Is it creepy or just whatever? Here’s one example I found.

https://twitch.tv/verniy

>> No.23694965

Just a manifestation of males being inferior and increasingly phased out. If a dude has to pretend to be a girl to get by I'm not going to begrudge him.

>> No.23695138

>>23694900
harmless really, but it just weirds me the fuck out because of the total disconnect between voice and appearance.

>> No.23695202

>>23694900
I don't really care but they better go the femboy route instead of using a female avatar, imo

>> No.23695289

dont care they they exist
dont watch em

>> No.23695479

Weirds me out and will keep me from ever watching them. Reeks of an insecure or mentally ill person

>> No.23695566

>>23694900
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babiniku
I still wouldn't watch them though.

>> No.23695572

>>23694900
So basically Zen. Trannies are trannies no matter how hard you stretch it.

>> No.23695629

>>23694900
long as they aren't actually trying to pretend they're a woman then its fine, no more creepy than a guy using a female avatar in an mmo.

>> No.23695654

>>23694900
It's pretty gay and it baffles me when they do it but have a very obvious male voice. They aren't tricking anyone, so what's the plan there? Like I just don't know what the idea is supposed to be.

>> No.23695659

>>23694900
I call them click and close.

>> No.23695863
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23695863

>>23694900
>newfag just discovered babiniku.

>> No.23695923

It’s a debuff, visitors think usually negative thoughts
>Oh, it’s another one of ‘those’ alphabet gender people
>He’s not doing a girl voice, is he supposed to be called a she
>Is he sitting in a skirt getting hard thinking he’s a girl?
>Autogynephile freak
>I don’t want to play along with this sissy’s delusion
Doesn’t matter the reason, even the valid >I’m a straight normal guy I just literally like cute things

>> No.23695961

>>23694900
Good when done to enhance their content.
Example: Eileen. His content would be worse if he used a male live2d. A poor girl who eats grass is funnier because it's a lot less realistic.

>> No.23696152

>>23694900
It's been a thing since 2018 newfag. In Japan, they're called babiniku, males doing chuuba activities with female avatars.

>> No.23696207

Do good voice changer exist? All of them seems fake as fuck

>> No.23696311

>>23694900
>men who use female rigs
better than the men who use female rig BUT ackchyually they're the mascot and the girl is just a mute character who holds the mascot

>> No.23696350

>>23694900
Isn't this blatent copyright infringement.

>> No.23696385

>>23694965
Please commit suicide on your own time.

>> No.23696441

>>23694900
https://youtube.com/watch?v=302D8ISKuRo
Babinikus are based

>> No.23696455

>>23696311
Naro...

>> No.23696517

>>23696207
There's just not much demand for a software that makes you sound different.

>> No.23696784

>>23694900
He's currently has 160+ people watching him, dude got it made. Not to mention 10k followers. Seems to be he's one of the few successful indie vtubers.

>> No.23696831

>>23694900
I personally don't prefer it but it's not tranny shit so it's fine. If they go too far trying to act like a woman during it, or try to trick their viewers or whatever, then I'll shit on them, but otherwise it doesn't matter. A good example of the opposite is Inuyama Tamaki. Norio sensei doesn't ever really try to act like a boy during her streams, so it doesn't make me want to blow my brains out when I watch.

Zentraya or whatever his name is from vshojo is a good example of what not to do.

>> No.23698082

>>23695566
>>23695138
>>23695289
This. But fuck the ones that don't properly label themselves as such.

>> No.23698165
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>>23694900
I hate nothing more than clicking on a cute girl in the thumbnail and hearing some guy in a discord chat with three of his bros.
It doesn't really creep me out because whenever I've come across it it feels like the same thing as playing a female character in an RPG, but it pisses me off. You can tell the difference between a guy using a girl because he like the look of the model or its an artist's distinctive avatar/OC and a genuine tranny.

>> No.23698283

>>23694900
If they are just using one for shits and giggles, there's no harm in it. The only ones i would see causing issues are the ones trying to pass as one just for views and money (zen).

>> No.23698296

>>23696784
Is he really making a living with just 160 viewers just because he has a high sub count?

>> No.23698574

I'm a less than 2 viewer average streamer who can't stream right now and I've debated coming back as a vtuber. Debated if I did whether I'd be a babiniku or have a male avatar. Not a tranny but I usually always play girl avatars. I'm not sure what kind of male character I'd want or even how to get it.

>> No.23698814

>or whatever
>or whatever
4chan is a 18+ site.

>> No.23699530

>>23696350
Why would it be?

>> No.23699712

>>23694900
>Dude using a girl avatar in MMO because she's hot and he likes looking at her or something, doesn't pretend he is one = fine
>Dude using a girl avatar in MMO to bait items and gold out of weirdos etc. = shit
Same rules more or less, I don't care if they're not using it for a shit purpose. I don't watch them though because they can attract a weird crowd (like the >What's your pronouns? type) and because I like watching dudes with dude avatars and girls with girl avatars.

>> No.23700533

>>23694900
gay

>> No.23701838

>>23694900
no different from playing as a girl in games

>> No.23705347

>>23701838
You play as a girl?

>> No.23705504

>>23701838
You don't hear a male voice come out of it. And playing as a female isn't a public activity to entertain others. It's like putting on a creepy mask before going to work and being surprised when customers leave to a place where people aren't weird.

>> No.23705571

I like babinikus when they make edited content. I don't think it works as well during streaming. Babiniku is an outlandish wierd character. Not somebody you want to 'get to know' in a several-hour livestream.

>> No.23705588

>>23694900
Babinikus are fine as long as they promote themselves as such. For instance Tomari Mari is based

>> No.23705600

I don't like it, I'd rather for them to have a man's avatar.

>> No.23705639

>>23699530
Are you blind?

>> No.23705663
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>>23701838
this

>> No.23705698

>>23694900
Can't have a mental illness thread without this piece of work https://twitter.com/nozzivix
Dude is using the shittiest voice changer ever and yet half his twitter is him bitching about people not being fooled about him actually being a dude.
The other half is him bitching about how he's in excruciating pain all the time.

>> No.23705756

>>23694900
go back nigger. lurk more before you start asking retarded questions

>> No.23706105
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>>23695202
Otonokos beat Babinkus every time.

>> No.23706208
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@ (you)

Female Vtuber
>See girl model
>Imagine what the voice is like
>It sounds nothing like what I imagined
>I either stick around because she is nice to be around or leave
>I get used to it

Babiniku
>See girl model
>Imagine what the voice is like
>It sounds nothing like what I imagined
>I either stick around because he is nice to be around or leave
>I get used to it

>> No.23706337

>>23706105
Holy crap femboy Marine

>> No.23706408

>>23694900
literal tranny behaviour

>> No.23706507
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I see no problem at all with dudes being dudes.
As long as the person is not actually pretending to be a girl like some mentally ill schizoid it's all good.
It's just like playing a female on a rpg game or rping a female on a dnd campaign.

Ito Life is an example, the man just loves his big titty succubus mommy oc.

>> No.23706559

as long as he knows he's still a man
+ if he has a good voice

>> No.23706843

It's a bad practice for both the choober and the viewers. People don't like being lied to and often hold a grudge against someone if they found out they lied to them. Better to just use a male avatar nor just not use one at all.

>> No.23706898

>>23706337
Yeah he's cute as fuck and I will mating press him as hard as I pressed Marine.

>> No.23707056

>>23694900
I started identifying as a Trans Lesbain woman because why not, I get so much extra rights at no cost. I still have a huge beard and my dick, but I'm a powerful trans woman. It's amazing, and everyone calls me brave and powerful for coming out, it's like I have a super power.

It's honestly scary how addictive it's been, I don't think I can stop. It feels really... good... Maybe I am really trans... nah, I just really like the attention.

>> No.23708621

I hate it. I leave instantly and block them.

>> No.23708792

I just use a slightly feminine model but since it has a flat chest I can just say my gender is ambiguous. Best of both worlds.

>> No.23708826

>>23694900
It's awful, I hate it. There's a metric fuckload of 2 views with female avatars but male voices. Often they even don't try to hide it. I much prefer males with male avatars to this shit.

>> No.23708895

>>23694900
Babinikus are based and if they actually manage to get simpbucks from twitchkiddies they deserve respect.

>> No.23709300

>>23694900
i was looking at some 2views yesterday and it's the worst thing ever.

>> No.23709833

>>23694900
It's ok, unless they hide their gender.
I'm looking at you, Zent. Fuck you.

>> No.23709895

>>23709833
I liked the rrat that Zen is puppeteered by both a man and a woman neither of which is a tranny.

>> No.23710037

>>23694900
How fucking newfag are you?
Babinikus are a thing since NicoNicoDouga. They treat the 'virtual' aspect of the whole virtual youtuber thing much more sincere and respectful compared to twitch sluts

>> No.23710125

>>23694900
Its not like they obliged to.
Thats the bright side of the internet.
You can cancel your mom, by the way.

>> No.23710903

It's based. Or rather I'm based. I make a lot of art and porn etc. My avatars are simply vehicles for my expression, and not 1 to 1 analogs. I've used a male avatar based off me before and people would still call me a girl lol, now I just use a girl avi. There seems to be a lot of people in this thread with weird sexual hang ups. I can assure you male or female the idea of ever having a relationship with us is purely illusion. Regardless I have been paid hundreds of dollars to tell people I love them. I was once paid a few hundred to simply speak with a person and provide them comfort. At one point I was paid 250 to listen to some submissive hypnosis audio tape. I make it very clear these are transactions of course though. For the babis lurking as long as you're a good streamer there will be plenty who watch and simp for you. Though if I'd had one complaint it is the huge ammount of thirsty guys and surprisingly girls. I'm no prude and I'm super sex positive but it's really degrading sometimes. I was once talking about getting laid off recently and it was meat with nothing but horny responses. And took me re iterating a few times before it sunk in and they all became quite supportive. The beginning was the worse. The mass of ammount of weirdly rapey comments people think are romantic is strange. The constant requests to meet up etc. I think it all is a balancing act, if I was a femboy model it would be the same, if I was a girl it would be I think 10 times worse which is scary to think about. I will say I haven't hear the phrase "I'm not gay but-" be said so much.

>> No.23711575
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23711575

>>23694900
You're a faggot for not wanting to fuck them.
Never heard about Babiniku before? Fucking casual newfag.

>> No.23714106

>>23705639
No, I just don't see what's copyright infringement

>> No.23717584

>>23694900
So is this nigger actually just using Hibiki as an avatar, or is it just for something in particular?

>> No.23717738

>>23694900
If they really intend to roleplay as female with their creepy male voice

>> No.23718105
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Babiniku is based and probably the best bet for any guy that wants to be a vtuber

>> No.23721159
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>>23694900
He's cute and a mute so I don't care.

>> No.23721299

>>23694900
Tomari is cuter than your oshi especially if she's a hololive

>> No.23721761

Babiniku is cool you faggots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s9nPOCjy6o

>> No.23724610

>>23721761
no

>> No.23724973

>>23717584
He's using Verniy, at least get it right.

>> No.23727363

>>23724973
They're the same person.

>> No.23732959

>>23721761
Pochi is shit though.

>> No.23733083

>>23721761
Beatmario is the only babi I like.

>> No.23733230

what's the point of babinikus? Just use a shota avatar if you want to look cute. Some of them are entertaining but I hate clicking on a stream thinking the design is cute and hearing a man's voice instead.

>> No.23733297
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23733297

>>23695566
>Pochimaru

>> No.23733753

>>23695566
>>23733297
>She is considered a babiniku because she is a VTuber who creater her own avatar, not because she is a male VTuber using a female avatar.
...so Ui and Ayamy are also babinikus?

>> No.23734232

>>23733753
Yes, babiniku has two meanings based on context. It is either a male performer with a female looking virtual avatar or a vtuber who created their own avatar.

>> No.23735469
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>>23694900

>> No.23735779

>>23694900
It's just whatever. Some people put women up on a pedestal for whatever reason, either worshiping or hating them. Women are humans too and just as disgusting and abusive as men can be. The idea of being creeped out is because you notice something is not what you think it is supposed to be. For the more adult and well developed individuals it's pretty obvious that they're nothing like their character even if they're men or women in real life.

What is more creepy? A normal guy chilling and using a female model or a female con artist and drug abuser doing a weird baby voice with their anime model to play into some weird online fantasies to farm the easy money?

To me the second one is far more creepy and repulsive. The first one is just a bit weird because of the voice and model mismatch. There are a lot of different types of vtubers with different reasons but people tend to make more excuses for obvious grifters and groomers if they can do certain voices.

>> No.23735931

>>23694900
I thought male vtubers couldn't get less appealing but i was wrong. It is even worse with a female model

>> No.23736090

>cute model, they are playing a based game
>open stream
>male voice
>"ok I will give it a chance because it's a based game"
>dead air
>also they suck at the game somehow
>close stream
Every time.

>> No.23736206

>>23714106
Incase you're being serious, the character in OPs image comes from Kantai Collection and Kadokawa games owns them (I think?)
How the person pretending to be Hibiki when he streams hasn't been reported is beyond me.

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>>23735469

>> No.23737878

>>23736206
That’s not Hibiki though.

>> No.23740403

>>23694900
>Speedruner
>vtuber
can it work?

>> No.23740804

>>23694900
its based. takes away viewers and money from foids larping as anime girls to get money from lonely autists

>> No.23740821

>>23694900
>just whatever

>> No.23743068

>>23740403
He gets 150 to 160 views and like 40 to 60 of them are subbed.

>> No.23745905

>>23740804
How so?

>> No.23746007

>>23694900
Can’t hate on bro for chasing the bag. There’s a lot more money in pretending to be a girl in theory

>> No.23749037

>>23746007
He said he only uses a female vtuber rig because its a meme and because he likes verniy.

>> No.23752706

>>23749037
I can respect the hustle.

>> No.23756065

>>23752706
Same, I really don' fault him. Guy seems to be just a speedrunner but using a kancolle character.

>> No.23758587

>>23756065
He’s a world record holder of some games. Don’t even know why he became a Vtuber.

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>> No.23759300

>>23694900
I watch VTubers as escapism from my shithole. Having a dude's voice on a chick would break my immersion, and is one of the last things I want. If I want to hear a male streamer, I would specifically look for a male avatar.

>> No.23762401

>>23759300
>Having a dude's voice on a chick would break my immersion
How?

>> No.23763791

>>23762401
It insists upon itself.

>> No.23764630

>>23695654
>They aren't tricking anyone, so what's the plan there? Like I just don't know what the idea is supposed to be.
But do they really aim to trick you? Why would they try something so blatantly obvious? I mean if they would want to hide their voice they could just get a TTS device to do the voice like Zentreya. It seems more like "wanting to be a cute animu girl" and this is as close they can get to it. And chat sometimes buys into it.

>> No.23764658

>>23698165
>Angry about clickbaiting
what an Internet virgin.

>> No.23764866

>>23696152
this

>> No.23766091

>>23745905
as i said, it takes away money and viewers from actual women. which is based because i hate women.

>> No.23769895

>>23766091
How does that ruin immersion?

>> No.23774178

>>23737878
They're still the same character in the end, retard.

>> No.23774505

>>23694900
It's only gay if you get horny

>> No.23774777

Babiniku the straight mans choice

>> No.23775007

>>23710903
Go back to swindling people you faggot

>> No.23776012

>>23775007
>swindling
what?

>> No.23776046

They can fuck off to VRchat with that bullshit.

>> No.23776121
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>>23694900
Female avatar, male voice.

>> No.23776520

>>23694900
>get cute anime girl eyecandy
>but brains of a man

its pretty decent 2bh
because outside of Hololive where else are you going to find women worth watching? exactly.
stroll on, kings.

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>>23776046

>> No.23779076

The only time I've found it acceptable is when someone uses anime girl animations ontop of a streamer(male)'s vod.
i.e. https://youtu.be/PTDhkIT5Wl0

>> No.23782785

>>23694900
They're ok as long as they're not trying hard to pitch their voice, or god forbid, cranking the pitch with a voice changer.

>> No.23783114

>>23694900
Might gain a view on youtube, might gain a live viewer for a second on twitch, but retains nothing at all

>> No.23785682

>>23694900
I watched that dude before he started the vtubing.
It was ok hearing his voice with just the png, cuz I could just pretend he really liked the character.
But with the avatar, it became too fucking weird.
I dunno what his deal is, if he's a tranny or what. But w.e.

>> No.23785759

I really dislike them and avoid them as much as I can.

>> No.23785965

>>23785759
Why?

>> No.23786220

I think it's really hot, and I wish male vtubers would all just stream behind cute girl avatars. I might actually watch them then.

>> No.23787809

>>23786220
How many realistically want to get railed as their avatar?

>> No.23791344

>>23787809
None.

>> No.23792180

>>23698814
kys

>> No.23795976

>>23785682
>I watched that dude before he started the vtubing.
What was he before becoming a vtuber?

>> No.23796519

>>23795976
Basically was the same(at least when I stopped watching, I dunno if he's gone full tranny now), but that character he's vtubing as was just a static png. I assumed the character was his waifu and that's why he had it up.
He was just seemed like a regular dude who speedran games I thought were interesting.

>> No.23799897 [DELETED] 

>>23796519
I just watch his latest stream and he's alright. Nothing wrong. Dude just seems to love Verniy or whatever.

>> No.23800078

>>23796519
I just watch his latest stream and he's alright. Nothing wrong. Dude just seems to love Verniy or whatever her name is.

>> No.23808083

>>23796519
>I assumed the character was his waifu and that's why he had it up.
It is his waifu. Guy is in love with her.

>> No.23808292

anon you better pet that cat

>> No.23809868

>>23694900
Got no issue whatsoever and am subscribed to several JP babis. I wouldn't be interested in them doing ASMR but other than that I'll watch them as much as any female chuuba. If I ever became a chuuba I'd want to use a female model which is part of why I don't bother. Nobody wants EN babis, I'd just get lumped in with trannies and I can't be fucked with dealing with that shit

>> No.23810169

>>23694900
I know they exist and they're usually based but are you sure you aren't just looking at trannies?

>> No.23816093

>>23774777
It isn't.

>> No.23821016

>>23709895
Of course they're not trannys.
Do you even think a vtuber from vshoujo would even doubt to expose zher whole vtuber personality on the fact that they're trans?
They'd fucking 2837% use that on every single title and thumbnail.

>> No.23821047

>>23694900
They are disgusting scum

>> No.23823261

>>23776121
loyalu leinbo

>> No.23824464

>>23823261
Who?

>> No.23825655

>>23824464
Nobody.

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Only two babinikus I watch is pic related and Itou Life.

Reason why beatmario went for babiniku is because the only cutest thing in the world is his wife, which his avatar is based on.

>> No.23825940

>>23694900
>someone whose content is KanColle using a KanColle model
You picked the wrong fucking example to rant at babinikus.

>> No.23826040

>>23706507
based

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