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Remember if anyone says anything about people who get 4 digits on the regular flopping, he's suffering from terminal numberrot. Please do not take any of his statements at face value and forcefeed him meds
Holobronies status?
NIJIBOTS EXPOSED
>>23661619LOVE HAGS
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1521880774194118657?s=21&t=fVa4_Zcj3_m1M-d4FRypsAThat shrimp? Me.
People that underestimated the shark are about to regret their words and deeds.Gura will return with buff streams like >3D Half Life Alyx>3D Karaoke>3D RFA>3D Myth event
Ah, peace
As that anon mentioned, there's two reasons to go IPO.And Anycolor IPO is coming off the back of the following -> Gibara graduation> NijiIN --> NijiEN --> NijiIN --> shitcanned> Meiro yab> Lulu graduation> Roa basically going MIA> Edengumi debut to 1k CCV speedrun> Niji DLSite yab> Yumenographia's death> Nijifes cancellation 2 fucking days before the event> Nippleman> Ranunculus debut to 1k CCV speedrun> NijiKR imploding> NijiID tossed in the backburner> Ibrahim venting about management> Warabeda graduation> Melissa graduation after clashing with managementAnd their actions taken after the IPO include -> Luxiem official Bilibili accounts and Bilibili exclusive streams.> Merch that's somehow even more low quality than the past year but at the same price.Pretty obvious that the IPO is Rikkun's "final attack", he basically gave away half his control in order to get a cash injection to try and salvage the company, while still giving him an out if things go south.
>>23661619Watching MR. Koro, as one should.
Ah, piss
>>23661676>3D RFAPretty cute. I'm waiting for this. Also, 3D VR Horror.
>23661498AHAHAHAHAHAHAgood shit, anon
Reimu... why didn't you listen...?
>>23661661I made this post
>>23661640U dont andastand anon, the view freeze cause its already reached 1m views
>>23661676I guess 3d spam would be one way to compensate for the fact that the 3d reveal is forever fucked by holofes and will never get those promises debut numbers people were so hype about
>>23661676>3D Half Life Alyxnot even 20k>3D Karaoke40k>3D RFA20k>3D Myth event40k
>>23661735What actually happened here? Who ended?
damn, that fake holiday pink dog made got her like a million and a half
>>23661568>Interracial JAV bikini Based?
>>23661689>Roa basically going MIAIsn't that the one on court?
>>23661735Why are you watching a latinx?
>>23661790>3D Myth eventdepends which channel. (Pls no kiara or mori)>Gura 3d concert above 100k
>>23661850what fake holiday huh
Oh yeah, where's the tally
>>23661916koyo day, it's a pun with her name and the date, and she streamed over 12 hours today
HoloEN is dead now. The only way to save them is for Sykkuno to raid Gura every stream in hopes the injection of new viewers will once again revive HoloEN as a whole. They will also need to collab on the regular
Why do people doom posting Mori's numbers ignore her audience is still mostly NA? Like this is not even cope, you can see her jump timezones often enough to draw the pattern
I would unironically think it'd be better if Calli did a watchalong of Johnny depp's trial
>>23661984Give it 5-10 minutes.
>>23661994I warned you about the nijiniggers bro
>>23661994>cover allows sykkuno to raid gura and vice versa>sykkuno fans get flagged with the ccvid>youtube doesn't wants this, cure the ccvid foreverYES PLEASE
>>>/jp/39693174>>>/jp/39693174>>>/jp/39693174
>>23661994Twitch statusIne still No 1Zentraya re-debut startingMika streaming on Twitch, playing chess with Oliver.
>>23661994t. sykkuno
>>23662228>>23661498every time
2m GETTO!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNTAMY1NZADidn't catch the exact time, but that's what ~22 days to 2m. Pretty dang good as far as Orisongs go.
>>23662228holykek
>>23662228Numbers?
>>23662348i guess nijiEN chinks really do dwell herei'm kind of grossed out to be quite honest
>>23662228>I'm not adding holoEN because it's hardof fucking course he was a nijinigger kek
>>23662228he`s probably stealing all the data of the retards downloading it
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>42,756: Mio (Hololive)>36,532: Miko (Hololive)>24,194: Koyori (Hololive)>19,910: Laplus (Hololive)>19,595: Subaru (Hololive)>18,265: Hololive (Hololive)>17,902: Axia (Nijisanji)>17,236: Korone (Hololive)>16,300: Mito (Nijisanji)>15,901: Toya (Nijisanji)>15,442: Kanata (Hololive)>14,838: Koyori (Hololive)>14,766: Mysta (Nijisanji)>13,971: Debiru (Nijisanji)>13,767: Botan (Hololive)>12,484: Asumi Sena (VSPO)>12,054: Iroha (Hololive)>10,567: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>10,383: Saku (Nijisanji)>10,245: Lamy (Hololive)>10,021: Ike (Nijisanji)Mio clinching the day before it even started
>>23662384So all the big songs from last month are in the 2 mil area nowMar 31: Template - Suisei - 2.456 milApr 4: CapSule - Mori & Suisei - 2.471 milApr 13: Doggy god's street - Korone - 2,004 milApr 27: Marine Set Sail - 2.317 milAnd the coverApr 16: Asunoyozora - Startend - 2.639 milEven Beat Eater on Reine's channel is at 1 mil now.What a great period.
>>23662637Holofes surely boosted the musical side of Hololive
>>2366263012 holos8 nijis1 vspotop 10 7-3 for holos, holo podium and goldweird day, tons of 10ks but just 1 40k, 1 30k and 1 20k
>>23662630>Mio win againTime to unzip
>>23662630HAG LOVE
>>23662630If only Mio took yesterday, she mightve gotten a banger median for May
>>23662799That's not how the median works anon. Each stream over her median offsets one stream under the median regardless of how high or low they go.The only thing she would have would be more golds.
>>23662630sasuga Miko, she'll find dumb way to slip
>>23662607>downloadingYou deserve it if you do this.
>>23662384mori's nepotism too strong
>>2366263012k for the whore of vspo, interesting
Thread is oddly calm now. Is there a certain part of the world that went to bed?
>>23663131Japan, Australia and the SEA
>>23663131I mean, normally at this time there's just horny posting but i guess they blew their load too hard the other day with the other Mio gold
>>23663150>AustraliaI knew it
>>23663002
>>23662228>>23662348>tribalfags JP vs EN in the /jp/ thread>refuses to add holoEN>watches nijiENFucking pottery
>>23663177WELCOME TO AUSTRALIA!
>>23663183SUZY WITH THE CHAIR
>>23663221I'd like to always give them the benefit of the doubt and assume most shitposting is falseflaggers but then there's this shit. Christ.
>>23662630https://youtu.be/2l_6oIGTrbg
>>23663131no shit JP prime time just ended
>>23663126There's a VSPO hater now?Well, for this site's standard - Asumi already confirmed she's had boyfriends before and she's doing an offcollab with Hoshikawa in a few days.
>>23663285I feel like the shitposting is just a consequence of the schizos who aren't doing it for shitposting purposes but because they're legit mentally ill.
>>23663221>>23663285I warned you about the nijiniggers bros
>>23663403>There's a VSPO hater now?it means they are being relevant. Congratulations
>>23663520>>23663221he still watches HoloJP though so he's a Holofan
>>23663569once a nijinigger always a nijinigger
>>23662630Mio winning so much in such a short amount of time
>>23663569he is now backpedaling about his decisions
>>23661909>above 100kJuts like how Mori's 3D birthday was meant to surpass Suisei's concert, right?
>>23663891You forget this is gura and not mori
Ok, Watame even ended her stream.This night really is over.
>>23663929Nah, Ko'ne is still streaming
>>23661895yeah, same one that they tried to drag Lulu into (when she just wanted to stream in peace).
>>23664011So is Lilpahttps://www.twitch.tv/lilpaaaaaaBut for Watame viewers, they just sit in chat sending hearts till the stream dies, then they go to sleep. No one gets the funnel, not even her songs.
Maybe they should cater to the chinese audience more.The NA audience doesn't seem to give them any attention compared to CN.
>>23661994
So did Laplus just decide that today she wanted to be an ultra numberfag for whatever reasonShe didn’t reach the goal either right?
>>23662630Miosha winning.not gonna post that many today since her last win was fairly recent
>>23663183> tfw Migo slips to Suichan
>>23662630When not even the hornyposter's around, might as well call it.
>>23664098Well, at least she didn't put the flag on it.
>>23664098Reimu’s final gambit to grow, pander to chinks.
>>23664139no she did
>>23664139>She didn’t reach the goal either right?She did reach easily as it was 770.I don't know why she didn't go for 777 like others before her tho.
New minor NijiEN yab apparently (>>23663191).
>>23663265kangaroos, the marsupial niggers of the animal kingdom.
>MAY 2022 GOLD1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 20223) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu>PER COMPANY3x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER1x: Kanata, Miko, Mio, Nijisanji2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY88x: Hololive27x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER15x: Aqua, Pekora10x: Kuzuha7: Subaru6x: Hal, Miko4x: Kanata, Suisei3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Marine, Okayu, Toya2x: Ange, Flare, Korone, Mio, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chloe, Chronoir, Fuwa, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, ZetaHololive need 91/241 remaining golds to win the year
>>23664347Take it elsewhere, anon
>>23664278Not a bad option really. It's easy to say that Nijisanji EN should target the NA audience but they would still be mostly 3-views if that was the case.They were getting very low numbers back in Fall before the Luxiem debuts in December. I still remember Ethyria's debuts and how it sank the entire branch's viewership
Kobo didn't just blasted past Sana, she just put 100k between them.Sana lost more or less some 150k in the sub cull meaning Kobo is *almost* catching up to her *accounting* for the sub cull
>>23664461It seems like Hololive would win 2022 by October.Another year of dominance.
>>23664535Reimu is dumb, she is LATAM no? She could *easily* turn to that market but, in order to do that, she would have to do it jumping in with both feet.>streams entirely in spanish>entirely in LATAM memes>tagging along with LATAM streaming and vtuber communityThis would take preparation and a deliberate strategy, not winging it like she tried before, or how Nina tried before with French and Russian
>>23664630Or Millie came running back to the flips when she flopped
>>23664630she's in America
>>23664685Anon, so is Sofia Vergara. There is a huge market for english speaking hispanic women both in NA and in LATAM
>>23664763Just because there's a market doesn't meet any product will sell. Not everyone enjoys consuming chink goods.
* EN TALLY OF THE DAY *>14,772: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,021: Ike (Nijisanji)>9,187: Mumei (Hololive)>8,762: Ina (Hololive)>7,955: Luca (Nijisanji)>6,664: IRyS (Hololive)>6,252: Ike (Nijisanji)>5,689: Mysta (Nijisanji)>5,421: Mori (Hololive)
>>23664910doesn't mean*Garbo auto fill
> Korosan's numbers are increasing the longer the night goes onAre these Eurofags tuning in?
>>23665031GOLDENFUCKINGWEEK
>>23663403calling them whores doesn't mean you hate themit's just what they arethat one reid faggot made fun of sumire''s members the other day and she didn't even defend them, just laughed at his kimo-ota impersonation
jannies, tell the mods to stop downloading porn, The site crashed for some minutes
>>23664986EN GOLD SO FAR IN MAY1. Luca (Nijisanji) - 36,567 (Unarchived Karaoke)2. Mori (Hololive) - 24,044 (Chat & Introduction w/Mama Mori)3. Shu (Nijisanji) - 14,353 (Birthday Zatsu)4. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,772 (The Closing Shift)Hololive - 1Nijisanji - 3Others - 0
>>23664986>>23665098kys
>>23664116He said hololive EN, not all of hololive. EN is very clearly stagnant and verging on an unambiguous decline because the talents aren't active on Youtube.
>>23665082It actually crashes around this time fairly often, I get the feeling that they are doing some scheduled updates around this time
>>23663191>>23663191>>23663191this could be interesting
>>23664068are you retarded? roa and lulu have nothing to do with each other. roa situation is about meiro and narukami lawsuit.
>>23665209stop shilling your kusothread no one cares
>>23665247nijiseethe
>>23665145EN is doing fine though
>>23665247stay mad chink
Number of Nijisanji graduates: 49Number of Hololive graduates: 10Unbeatable in this stat.
Thankfully things are picking back up somewhat, Calli's back playing Elder ring, Gura's back and teasing more 3D, Ame installed a thing for today's stream (which I'm assuming it's gonna be 3D) Ina doing Starwars... And whatever Council is doing
>>23665313Now compare the amount of members in each and see the percentage
>>23665313are you conflating graduation with getting firedbecause most got fired
>>23665313
>>23665273>EN is doing fine though
>>23665313why is nijisanji such a black company?
>>23665227mate, Niji management was stopping Lulu from streaming every time some "stalker" came up, despite she herself having been long since used to it from PL stuff, and wanting to just continue streaming.It was pretty obvious that Niji mgmt had an agenda against stalkers too, considering how they're going with the Roa lawsuit - showing damages by 'not being able to stream' in order to buff the case and call for stricter punishments.And this method would have less impact if the talent was tweeting occasionally and interacting with their audience (to keep fanbase interest up, like how Miko and Kanata did), which is why Roa rarely tweets.Poor Roa is too young and so is more easily led on by the perceived "justice" against rrat merchants (without realizing that her audience is slowly leaving her).
>>23664910>>23664994Nothing ventured nothing gained. It is definitely worth a try
>>23665256>>23665295>1 minute and 1 second apart
>>23665313>6 unavoidable due to being driven out of china>2 fired due to contract breach>1 graduated due to outside harassment>1 normal graduationis that correct?
>>23665052yeah that would be the case if the audience size is steady, but it's INCREASING.
>>23665560rent free
>>23665507You know, if the lawsuit fails I wonder how Roa would feel losing out on 1-2 years of her streaming career.
>>23665560piss off
>>23665565I'm surprised he didn't count the holostars.
>>23665586there's basically no way the lawsuit can fail after the ruling that what's his face can't hide behind the "It's just a character bro" excuse, though I'll admit that whatever Roa gets out of it probably won't be worth putting her career on ice for two years
>>23665565only 1 contract breach> 6 HoloCN> 1 homo due to health issues> 1 homo cancelled contract themselves due to 'personal reasons'> 1 graduated due to outside harassment + family issues> 1 graduated due to creative differences> 1 contract terminated due to NDA breach
>>23665651How do Japanese courts work in that regard anyways. I doubt he has that much money.
>>23665273Are you sure?
>>23665586I'm guessing she'll be elated and excited that she can "finally be free" and come back to a wasteland.idk what that's going to do to the mind of someone so young.I also have no idea how many of her close niji friends will remain by the time she gets back.
>>23665031 As Eufag, that's exactly what i'm doing.
>>23665711I have no idea, but it is a civil suit not a criminal suit so yeah best case scenario she gets a bunch of money and a portion of his income for a good few years. Not really a good replacement for her career and I guess this is why dramatubers get away with alot of shit, but then again I suppose it's abit of a Hulk hogan scenario where making him hurt is worth more than the monetary compensation
>>23665497Why are nijiniggers like this?
>>23665740when have EN ever been able to consistently compete directly with single timezone audiences outside of debut buffed pre cull myth? this is nothing new
>>23665710the 10 is just in hololiveholoCNrushia + chrisaloecocoincluding stars its 13
>>23665710you forgot about the gen 1 guy who quit after not getting enough support
>>23663891Mori would've gotten higher if it was actually a full concert instead of whatever that first half was and if she had better non-Suisei guests than a homo.
>>23665497Lick my balls kayloud
>>23665710i assumed he was talking about Hololive>Chris/Rushia>CN>Aloe>Coco
>>23665740yea
>>23665878homo? ah fuck, I don't remember that guy.I also missed fucking Hitomi Chris.
>>23666011>>23665710also if you guys start including the stars I insist that you include the 49 yumenographia girls in the nijisanji figure too
>>23666011Suzaku, he does very well these days since he was the main collab organizer between Holo/Niji roommates during the among us era iirc.
>>23665936Hold up, what the fuck is Sleep Monster?
>>23665313The Hololive graduates are 13, anon.
>>23665273No,EN is not doing fine.They are not interested in streaming.
So i am guessing it is true. Hololive en has come to an end as the Nijisanji en are monopolising very department slowly
The "Hololive EN is doing fine" fags remind me of the "Nijisanji JP is doing fine" ones.
>>23666201>>23666165>>23666136I warned you about the nijiniggers bro
>>23666079ah nice, good to know.>>23666055pretty sure that's where the >49 from that guy's list comes from.It's not a fair trade for Niji tbqh
>>23662228>>23662348>>23662512for the record, towatools, the one that was linked here is not the nijinigger, the "holowatch" one is the nijinigger
>>23666080ASMR focused companyhttps://youtube.com/channel/UCQRfUPNla7dB-kdcWD92lJg?cbrd=1
>>23666136sounds like a you problem, they are just as enjoyable as ever for me
>>23666165>t. holobrony trying to falseflag his way of this
>>23665098Who else was on Mysta's stream? No way he can get that many viewers by himself.
>>23663002What do you mean? That's not what slipping means, she was never in the lead.
>>23666276She reverse slip
>>23666259Bruh, it’s just himself.
>>23666259Him and his worm.
>>23666259Why donu think he couldnt? He normally averaging in 10k before his yabs and he’s in redemption arc now.
>>23666259Stage 3: Bargaining
>>23666335Lmao the last drop was him losing his internet connection or OBS technical issue
>>23666232no there are actually 50 nijisanji graduates without including however many people were in yumenographia, the guy forgot to update it for Gibara. And by the end of the month it'd be 51Normally I would say that 51 graduates is par for the course for a company that's been operating for three years across multiple branches, but given how nijiniggers are acting here these days I'm loathe to say anything to defend them
>>23666201except nijiJP had a competitor in holoJP, holoEN have no direct competitor
>>23666430Can you give a breakdown by year of graduation?
>>23665031i tuned in after laplus
>>23666493I literally just went to the wiki and counted, so no. No I cannot.
>>23666546I can do it then; link me
>>23666593https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/NIJISANJI
mio mommy sex
>>23666487The fact that their competitor is not as strong as NijiJP's competitor has nothing to do with HoloEN's performance, sure it makes it less possible for them to lose their market leader spot but what's the point of being a market leader when you are shrinking?
>>23666603Thanks. Counted 32 from the Nijisanji branches, 8 from the Virtual Real and 6 from Virtual Real China. I may have missed some but it checks out, Yumenographia not included
>>23666487I hope you've learnt your lesson about responding seriously to posts like that. The people who make those posts aren't interested in actually having a discussion, they just have an agenda to push and will force all kinds of mental gymnastics in order to push it through. Unless you have actual hard numbers responding to them like you are in a debate just gives them more ammo to use. And even if you do have hard numbers they'll just ignore it anyways, like >>23665936
>>23666603Graduations by branch:>JP - 18 (including Melissa)>CN - 15>KR - 14>IN - 3>EN - 0>ID - 0
>>23666864are you sure you counted it right? Because I got 34 from the nijisanji branches, and 14 from the chinese branches.
I don't understand what the point of number fagging with some of the en members?Kronii, Gura and Mumei legit don't want to be the popular Vtubers and are very happy for where they are right now. Gura and Mumei have repeatedly also said that they don't want people out this demographic to be attracted to their streams as it may cause more trouble than it will do good in the future (A recent example is the current Nijien fanbase vs Kanae).IRyS is just feels grateful that there are people still watching her.Fauna is also in the same veins as IRyS.The only people who do numberfag are Kiara(she deserves to numberfag), Mori, Bae(she deserves to numberfag as she is one of the most hardworking Vtubers from En, and still that Number fagging is still tame and almost non existent).
>>23667012oh fuck off
>>23665936I love how everyone involved in the "Discussion" just ignores this because it deosn't support the narrative they are trying to push
>>23667008I’m sure I did not count, as I speed read it looking for the word “retired”
>>23667012>Bae(she deserves to numberfag as she is one of the most hardworking Vtubers from En, and still that Number fagging is still tame and almost non existent).lollmaoAt the rate she's going even Fauna works harder than she does
>>23667078yeah that wouldn't catch a couple of the chinese ones
jesas that's like, 20%-ish of their talents either fired/graduated. noone's ever gonna beat that and its only gonna get worse i feel
>>23667098>She is legit streaming with a broken back and has to mangae her uni on top of that+she is not in a stable state as Beasty isn't with her anymore.Sure, i will like to see you try this
>>23667098btw do we have any brats here?why did Bae's hours/efforts collapsed after her FeBAErary?
>>23667176Illnesses and family emergencies, in short
>>23667164It's mostly VirtualReal, Nijisanji KR and IN that have/had a lot of troubles and graduations.
>>23666259Pretending to be scared shitless while playing a horror game is a huge buff (for everyone).
>>23667164doesn't nijisanji only has 200 ish talents? that's more like a quarter isn't it?
>>23667012>Kiara>numberfaggingShe basically stacks as many debuffs as humanly possible while actively avoiding buff content that she doesn't 100% likes
>>23667012>I don't understand what the point of number fagging with some of the en membersThe point is the same for any other member>just because For the record I see no distinction between>don't want to be the popular Vtubersand>loathes their audience I said that because, even considering just the 400 or so vtubers tracked in this thread (out of some 20000 to 40000 that are reported to exist) all of EN (even Sana) are in the top 100 of the industry and all but three in the top 50 (when ranked by median of peak CCV) with Gura and said being in the top 15 in ANY metric, **at worse**. There is no distribution between saying>I’ll strive to have a smaller audienceand>I dislike my current audience when you already is that big. I can perfectly understand a 2 view saying>I’m OK having 23 regular viewers and 130 subs, a lot more than that and the preparation to cater an audience much bigger would make it more trouble that worthy but that will NEVER apply to the streamers you’re mentioning.
>>23667209even just JP alone has 17 (soon to be 18) graduated members so they aren't exactly getting dragged downFunnily enough it';s the ID division that hasn;t had a single graduation
>>23667167I'm going to sound fucking awful, and I say this as a person who has had a lot of pets growing up, some that even died suddenly or I had to put down because I couldn't catch the cancer in time, but how the fuck is she sad about Beastie when Beastie isn't dead and she can visit her when she wants?
>>23667337Other than the current Mika “defection” that branch is the closer that could really claim to have a “family like” relationship
>>23667337ID talents probably makes more than what an average indo gets even if they stay as 2-3views
>>23667167Wait what? Bae has a broken back and a “dog that isn’t there anymore” too!? WTF is going in Australia, they’re doing deadlifts and feeding their dogs creatine?
>>23667312keep writing that much and your ESLness will keep leaking, kek
>>23667511That and the mobilepostiness too, I’m sure. The tl;dr should be>if you hate acting in front of an audience you shouldn’t have taken a job in the main cast of a Broadway show
>>23667586>if you hate acting in front of an audience you shouldn’t have taken a job in the main cast of a Broadway showAll of Myth thought they would be ID tier. Council clearly didn't think they'd do well either since half of them still can't fathom the support they're getting.
kek, if you think YouTube numbers are fake check this out>pic related/biz/ numberfags must suffer a whole lot more with their pink wojaks than the good lads on this thread with Susan shenanigans
>>23667586It's more like i'm big and wealthy enough to live comfortably, so im just gonna do what i want to and not worry about the numbers.
>>23667677holy shit did that really happen?
>>23667637>Council clearly didn't think they'd do well either I could give you Myth and start from the same assumption for Botan and Ina, both sharing the same trait of>taking up streaming as a relaxing activity away from their stressful former jobs (in Ina’s case, current other job)But Council? They were all born not in the shoulder of giants but at the top of the Everest with the full might of both JP and Myth to boost them up. The expectation for them was always sky high
>>23667700>so im just gonna do what i want to and not worry about the numbers.Given that numbers are a reflection of how much the audience appreciated their output I’ll just restate: that’s the same as saying they don’t care about the people watching them. I don’t believe that’s the case tho, lots of personal and a few professional reasons are causing them to perform worse in comparison with their past selves
>>23667411I also listed two more reasons anon.Also there are alot of family related stuff that i have not mentioned.Look i am not a brat by any means(infact i prefer watching Mumei and Fauna over Bae in council).But my little rat is going through a tough time. Good thing she has been talking and spending time with IRyS off stream as right now i think IRyS and Mumei are the people she is the closest with in Holo and they will continue being her friends in the longer run
>>23666993>nobody in ID have retired wow I thought ID was a shitshow like KR is
>>23667987What, Mumei and Bae are close?I thought Mumei is closer to Fauna and Kronii.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMlS04prz4o>reading superchats and then playing a game afterIt's always interesting to see the various ways HoloEN debuffs themselves.
>>23668078You're thinking of IN, ID, while getting low numbers, was doing amazingly by the standards of nijisanji foreign branches before the merger happened
Excluding the debut stream, this is the 5th stream Rio had that reached 4 digits ccv. I really wish they woyld stop debuffing themselves and streaming at 2-3am JST
>>23668126Yeah, those superchat readings, niche games and public watchalongs are murder to their numbers.
>>23668187Astel doesnt have a frame up so his apexfags are in Rio's chatSurprisingly, going with Nier Replicant and Omori right out the gate didn't seem to matter all that much in the end
>>23668126Wish they all didn't give a shit like Ina and just maybe reads one or two when they come in and don't bother with superchat readings, especially since she turns them the fuck off anyway during these streams so it's not like she's getting anything out of it
>>23667965not necessarily.If they have say about 2k people as a floor, there's nothing wrong in tuning your content for the benefit of those 2k people, because they are the ones who will watch everything you put out and buy all your merch.Any extras after that are welcome when they want to watch, but the chuuba won't guilt trip them or otherwise force them to watch their stuff (some 3dpd whores do this).The chuuba still cares for her audience (the base 2k) even if the casuals don't tune in for everything.
>>23663403some people love whore anon
Irys playing RE2 today. GO FOR THOSE NUMBERS IWYS
>>23667051Numberrot and people forget that EN's heavy hitters have been having IRL stuff keeping them busy lately.
>>23668651if that's actually what happened they would've addressed that chart in their argument, instead they just carried on like their entire premise didn't just get challenged
>>23668697I mean your not wrong either. Theirs just 2 other factors as well that are contributing to the recent "EN isn't doing good narrative".
>>23668631I honestly wish Irys had a mind of her own instead of seeing someone else playing something and deciding to play it too.
>>23668746no they are just asswipes with an agenda to push, and you thinking that they are actually trying to engage in good faith is why this thread keeps going to shit
>>23667337This may be why the value of a Niji graduation is diluted.A holo graduation is a fucking huge event with massive repercussions rippling across all the other talents because they're all so well connected.A niji graduation is a more local event, affecting whichever clique the graduated liver belonged to, with at least 50% of livers not even giving them a goodbye tweet or otherwise acknowledging it (because they may never have had any interactions with the graduated liver).Like Sora, the nijis may have become desensitized to graduations, and accepted that as a fact of their job.But where the holos tell you to cherish the time you have with those you love, a large part of niji livers seem to take the opposite approach of "I'm eventually gonna graduate anyway, so why should I work hard for anything here?".
>>23668631>Irys playing RE2 today. GO FOR THOSE NUMBERS IWYSPlease play as the retard, IRyS. I'm tired of everyone picking Leon.
>>23668829case in point >>23668760
>>23668187Hey, at least that means his ceiling is above 1k one month in.
>>23668585>there's nothing wrong in tuning your content for the benefit of those 2k people,While that’s true does it look like Gura content is “tuned” right now? Kronii? They keep and audience alright, and for the same reason Haaton (which is my case) stuck with Haachama through thick and thin, with her audience staying at least in the 2k+ range.Same goes for Matsuri, same goes for Mel… it’s not because their content was “tuned” to this small crowd that remained in the audience but because some intangible reason like attachment, being used to their presence, routine or even love (in the love for a retarded daughter sense). All of these three examples kept disappearing for personal reason or no reason, cancelling streams, spamming debuff uninspired streams not because they wanted to do what they like for a smaller audience but because of whatever problem they were going through. Compare and contrast with Okayu and Fubuki, these two are more like what you said.Okayu played Omori to a very small audience because she was really fond of the game and both her and the audience (myself included) knew something special was coming out of it and it did and it really paid off to stick with the story and the gameplay. I believe Ame (specially), Bae, IRyS, Gura and Kronii are more in the Haachaama’s case above than on Okayu’s case.
>>23667051>>23668651I am discussing the state of EN and there is no doubt a even a culled and debuffed HoloEN is still at the absolute top of the market. The comparison being made (at least by me) is not>how EN compares with other branches and companiesbut>how high EN could reach if all the conditions lined up, and how their present numbers compare to that
WHO WOULD WIN THIS BATTLE TO THE DEATH?>The MOST ANTICIPATED defection from Twitch, celebrated by Youtube Gaming themselves, publicized and catered to with massive changes in the whole streaming structure of the biggest streaming site of the world, buffed by his platform debut and the whole mainstream and social median pushing for him>one humble hag wolf waking up early as usual to wake her friends up for workTHE ANSWER WILL BAFFLE; CONFUSE, IMPRESS YOU, CURD YOUR MILK, SPOIL YOUR EGGS AND UNBRAID PEKORA'S HAIR!
>>23669092Well if the audience stuck with it, then it's pretty obvious that "she doesn't care about her audience" is a retarded statement to make y'know.Chuuba audiences may be yes-men and a little more retarded than others, but if they actually feel that they aren't valued, then they will start leaving, which has not yet happened for any of the ENs.
>>23669554How are the vod views?
>>23669554chumbud prime...
>>23669647Pekora with JunGura with SykkunoKobo with WindahMakes you wonder the power of the blue.
Numbers from spotify. In the past 2 weeks : >Mori 500k -> 492k (-8k) >Gura 281k -> 276k (-5k) >Irys 80k -> 78k (-2k)
>>23669724Unironically:Mio - 269,893 views - 1:12:26hSykkuno - 973,688 views - 5:38:39h - Was No 1 trending in NA for gaming.
>>23670064the power of unculled EN streamer...
>>23670064>Was No 1 trending in NA for gaming.Don't you love it when Youtube cheats
>>236695545 hags vs 1 prettyboi (ojisan)the odds were stacked against him
>>23670104But this makes it looks like he's culled.
>>23670108~1 million views Vod tends to do that (in the region the stream is listed from)
>>23670161>>23670104He had the worm, he's hung around too much with the NijiEN boys.
>>23668860No chance. She’s the most straight EN member.
>>23669559>but if they actually feel that they aren't valued, then they will start leaving, which has not yet happened for any of the ENs.Ame undeniably reclined
Where's everyone?
>>23670161>5h38mwhat was the average ccv? I’d say the vod views would be normal for a 25k avg
>>23670878I'm literally getting ready for bed, and I think a bunch of them are having fun in the catalogue. Been seeing alot of chink larpers pop up over the last hour
>>23670868Eh, her median is pretty much stable.VODs are suffering though, she's never had <50k VODs even for watchalongs in 2021.She's getting an Ina treatment now, but her loyal fanbase is smaller.
DAY 3https://youtu.be/Fo23-71emUwLa+,Haachama,Koyori,Mel,Luna and Kanata
>>23670878sorry the market is giving me handful after the feds rate announcement
>>23671085more likely those were watchalong at ungodly hours.
>>23671085Her views gaining rate is still 30% faster than Ina in every timeframe tho?
>>23671260True, but the amount of <100k VODs from Ame in the last 3 weeks is concerning. And she's not even spamming streams as much as someone like Koyori.
>>23671350>watchalong>severe overlap>SC readingThe type of content is the direct cause. Ina rarely stream debuff content and when she does, she fails 100k too.
>>23670868>Ame undeniably reclined>>23671085>Eh, her median is pretty much stable.>VODs are suffering thoughYep, here is a "control group": her APEX streams.Most of them are about the same length (a little under or a little over 2 hours), and, other than the collabs, they have the same content for the same type of audience.There was an abrupt recline in those numbers around the time of that collab with Roboco and Towa (but unrelated to that), after which her VOD views for APEX dropped to around or 150k when they were consistently above 200k.Is it safe to assume it is related to that break she took back in August 2021?
>>23670940his avg was probabaly over 25k. which makes the vod believable.take gura's first Elden ring which had an avg of 25k, lasted 3hrs, and is sitting at 800k currently.Also, keep in m mind this is his youtube debut so that has added attention
>>23670940>>23671736forgot pic
>>23671666I honestly think that the issue with Ame is the lack of a strong niche. She always was 'a filler of dead hours' type, basically the waiting room for Gura.Now, with 11 chuubas in the branch, the void could be filled with the others.Combine that with lack of collabs and poor game choices, and voila - tourists forgot about you.
>>23671666>>23671880I think the more contributing factor is that her behaviors have becomes more erratic. Short reservation, no twitter advertisement, shuffling schedule around, no fixed timeslot. It's like she just gave up on getting new people.
>>23671880her niche is platformer and mystery games. her apex and oblivion streams have their own distinct audience. ER might be temporarily taking oblivion slot though.
NIJI GOLD>NIJI GOLDNIJI GOLD>NIJI GOLD
>>23672170>her niche is platformer and mystery games. her apex and oblivion streams have their own distinct audienceAnd that's exactly the issue. She's bad at those things.
>>23671666>>23671880Here is *all* streams with the VOD in the bar and the last 15 streams median in the line.After the end of her debut buff her median stabilized between 150k and 200k, but right after SportFes in early Nov 2021 (but not necessarily related to it) the median fell to below 150k never to return to the previous levels.I think it was when she took a break betweenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaM46Jp6jdgandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN5A9DIlmvcthat things started going sideways for her, before that it was stable.
>>23672166This. What the fuck is Ame time? Bitch tell us when you're streaming.
>>23671143So another holo gold today
>>23671143Not as strong a lineup as day yesterday, guessing the biggest pull is gonna be La+ or Kanata.
>>23672474Here is the same chart for Gura. Slight dip more or less around the time it happened for Ame, from a 500-700k range to a 400-600k range now. Was absolutely stable every since the end of the debut buff.
>>23672953>>23672474Here, with just the 500k line to highlight the change
>>23672474>>23672953Older VODs will have slightly higher views compared to newer VODs just because they've been public for a longer time, right? Not necesarily a significant amount but even if no recline is present the chart will be slightly heavier on the left side?
Ina got 10k with a fucking kiddie game.
>>23673385>10kThe Ina'nis classic
>>23673385It's star wars
>Fauna has superchat reading followed up by unspecified game aftermanagers should seriously slap them away from some of these stream ideas
>>23673385She got 10k talking about computer problems
>>23673110That’s why the 15 streams median. For a true daily streamer that would be 15 days, for Gura and Ame, about 25 days.
>>23673487Skyrim
Very close to 1M.https://youtu.be/npVP58NvdQ8https://youtu.be/6W749jRBg-4https://youtu.be/kKqcQADSoIM
>>23673487she does it all the time with goi or whatever game is stuck in her head. in this case skyrim
So what the hell is michael cat doing? She revealed a l2d avatar made in pretty much record time and then..didn't stream for 2 weeks?
>>23673744She did member streams. Freeloaders who don't pay aren't worthy of her content. She culls the poor.
>>23673744she got it and then immidiatly the whole Genshin drama happened right? still think she started streaming way to soon for her mental health, but it definately gave her numbers.
>>23673801I don't like her, but based af
>>23673434It takes a huge debuff to drive away takos. Wonderful 101 and that last random game she played were enough but takes serious effort. Random chats, her eating food, drawing, all will get 10K. She's not stable octopus tip for nothing
Man why did Fauna have to overlap and why the fuck are 2k people watching a super reading
>>23673982It's cute, she excited about her original song and loves her m8s
>>23673487why would they care? they are getting the bag anywayit's not like the girls have any competition that can threaten their viewership numbersthey know that no matter what, people will keep watching them
>>23673982She tangents, so it's interesting.
>>23673801Even then, she only did it twice.I'm not on Twitter or Twitcast to know if she did more there.
>>23673434Sometimes, I dream of numberfag Ina, who draws slightly lewd Holo art on stream and cares about her numbers. Of course I still prefer the real thing, but sometimes I wonder how high she could go if she had tried, or even stooped to Vox's level.
>>23674206Any Holo who stoops to Vox's level would never get into Holo at all.
>>23673599That pisses me off to an unimaginable extent.This is the profession where these girls splurge a thousand bucks on gacha pulls (and sometimes make five times that in the same stream), is it so difficult in the US to find the ABSOLUTE BEST tech support for business that, for (let’s say) a two thousand bucks fee, tune your computer to perfection?
>>23674249Anon she did splurge on her computer, it still fucked up. She has a 3090 for fuck's sake.
>>23673744She should do a cover of this https://youtu.be/IL35V9wYr-UWould be a bit of stretch for her singing skill but if she plays the yandere part perfectly with her new avatar, it will break her hana ni bourei numbers.
>>23674249It wasn't about tuning, she had hardware problems. Replaced her RAM, motherboard and some other stuff don't remember she was just rambling. Though with the money she's making she should just have a backup pc at all times.
>>23674206>Sometimes, I dream of numberfag Ina, who draws slightly lewd Holo art on stream and cares about her numbersYou mean EN-Marine?https://youtu.be/Q8-h5qGKizU
>>23673385PicrelThat reminds me something about kids channels. CookieSwirlC's vtuber debut had 200k views 2 days after she debut and so did her next video.Since, both have passed 1 million views.Showing that, yes, children watch vods a lot.https://youtu.be/StnCa_xhJTghttps://youtu.be/c9FEjqxzWzg
>>23674576>No picFucks sake, this site file browser barely works.
>>23674512Basically yes
>>23674576Yes anon, we already know about these channels farming kiddie views. These aren't VODS as in big chunky streams with gameplay though so meh
>>23674576Children just watch videos on repeat, they can watch the same video a hundred times per day, something that would drive an adult insane.
>>23674576Isn't the whole idea of youtube kids that you just put it infront of the kid and let that shit autoplay? think that was one of the reason those cursed Elsa videos caused so much uproar.
>>23674576speaking of cookie, her recent video was about a Chillas kusoge, you know the games japanese vtubers like to play?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgiOW_4tbbk
>>23674249ina's main issue seems to be internet-based and i don't see here moving anytime soon
>>23674291>Anon she did splurge on her computer, it still fucked up>>23674405>It wasn't about tuning, she had hardware problems. Replaced her RAM, motherboard and some other stuff My point isn’t the hardware purchase but the girls either doing the tech work by themselves or using “genius bar” tier consumer level professional help. I’m sure there are companies out there that, for a fee, will pick your computer up and either fix the software problem or replace the parts and return it to you with a guarantee of both fitness for purpose and confidentiality.
>>23674717>58k viewsjesas
ame just need to play vr horror game and will get numbers easily if those even exist of course.outside that she needs to pick a timeslotshe did surprisinly fine with detective grimore during EU hours and they got 14k on that monopoly at 2am.Ame fanabse right now is to sparese across timeslots.
EN gold?
>>23675245
>>23675266What the fuck? Why does she have so many views?
>>23675266Someone botting her? or the raid function?
>>23675266Prism is not a small corpo anymore
>>23675266>>23675357It's a raid bug...
>>23675266what
>>23675337She seems to have no fucking idea. Her chat thinks its the algorithm, but the chat is going waaaaaay too slow to be actually anywhere near the 19 fucking k it currently is.
>>23675266>19KWTF
>>23675266>>23675357Context?
>>23675381are prism dwellers botting her?
I feel so bad for her. Jesus christ she doesn't evne believe it because it's actually unbelievable
>>23675381Bots. It’s that Koron Ch. APEX 10k again. She ended up with about 1.3k VOD afterwards. Watch as the same happen here
>>23675381 is the most damning evidence that there's something fishy. Her chat is her usual speed. Poor girl.
Yeah its a glitch, the poll is not producing any numbers at all. Or is someone testing botting on her?Goddamn youtube pajeets.
/#/ is declining.
>>23675381is there anything that tracks prism so we can see the graph
Boll just barely reached 200 votes but she's at 22k. Poor girl actually freaking out at this. Hopefully its just pajeets and not botting.
>>23675266Can we see the graph?
It's just Sony funneling their employees to her channel
>>23675544so who is testing their bots then
>24k CCV>5.6k lives>220 votes in the pollI'm glad everyone is embracing the NijiEN botting meta!
>>23675544We've accepted bot results before. Prism gold!
PRISM GOLD>PRISM GOLDPRISM GOLD>PRISM GOLD
>>23675544this better be put on the tally
>>23675621Sony spending $11 for a faux-viral moment that attracts actual attention to their best newly acquired streamer.
the fuck
>>23675653Eh, why not? If we accept NijiCN view farmed numbers, might as well accept this.
>there are no snake lewdsdam shame
>>23675714>their best newly acquired streamerWho she?
>>23675651Are the likes getting botted too because that seems real high
Who the fuck is bullying the snek?
>>23675742The snake girl people are talking about. She's basically Sana with an amazing model and a nicer more understandable accent.
FINALLY OTHERS WINS THE PARALYMPICS!LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO
>>23675722So these bots are staying for way longer than the 11$ ones right? is this a viewfarm someone is testing or something?
>>23675725We've also accepted youtube fuckery lowering numbers, so if raid fuckery is messing with her stream then it is legal.
>>23675801for the prices of 11$ YOUR OSHI CAN WIN THE PARALYMPICS TOO
>>23675801At the rate she's going she might win normal gold unless she ends. This growth isn't plateuing since it's either someone testing bots or youtube CCV broken (again).
Are they getting culled? Because otherwise it would mean Youtube has a whitelist of bots.No, I won't take my meds.
Registered
>>23675824she thinks its being embed somewhere.
TOO THE MOON BABY
man i wish she could actually real win gold
It pisses me off how these faggots at youtube JP are biased when it comes to their trending page.Marine's new MV which was a huge investment was number 1 trending for 1 day after which it got relegated to like 15th the second day and 40th the third day.A silly nijisanji quiz show is at fucking number 2 still after two days. Biased youtube niggers.Same with twitter, why does nijisanji have a fucking topic and hololive does not?
28k now.. WHAT THE FUCK
at this rate she might get overall gold
>>23675887Aren't we pretty sure embed views does not work for youtube ccv though?
>>23675846She said she was ending in 40 minutes, like 10 minutes ago.
Kek you motherfuckers numberfag this broken site?
>>23675887https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOPl6suLE5sMia's doing a supporting stream tooAlso, i didn't know Prism had 3D models
>>23675887Poor girl doesn't know youtube doesn't count embeds.
is this proof that CCV is a useless metric and that VOD views are much more reliabe?
>>23675930>>23675887If it appears on their Live page, then it's definitely top-brass influence.
CCV only 3 times bigger than her subs!VOD is going to be interesting.
>>23675962what about holodex isn't that an embed?
>>23675930they only work if you play itautoplay doesnt get counted.
>>23675940We've known YT numbers are loser to imaginary than reality for a long time.There was some consistency though.
>>23675950She made it herself, not prism
>>23675926vtuber gold? youtube gold? Why aim so low?
Does vrabi track Prism member?
>>23675972>29k ccv>5.6k likes>3k vod viewskek fuck u susan
>>23675940>Kek you motherfuckers numberfag this broken site?Yeah....
Poll had about 290 votes. Could it be that youtube is just literally displaying things x10 or some shit?
Somehow even the VOD views are lower than the likes kek.
>>23676027no
>>23676027no, are there any sites that do track them
It's not acting like Millie's at all this is fucking wild
>>23676061lollmao
>>23676036So uh...if it's bots...why are they liking the stream? Did that happen with Millie?
its going up againthis will get gold for sureman what the fuck LMAO
>>23676077Poyo for like 2 weeks...
Sony I kneel
>>23676125no, it's going down now
>>23676112If you aren't aware,you can buy likes too.
>INA MOGGED INA MOGGED>INA MOGGEDINA MOGGED
>>23676112It could be a view farm instead. Likes have not gone up for like 30 minutes, I've monitored a 10k ccv incline with no extra likes since it got 5.6k
>this is the power fo sonyI KNEELI WILL BUY A PS5 NOW
>>23676112Not sure. Millie's botted stream only has 2.5k likes so none of the bos liked it, also only has 17k views, which is completely in line with her normal views so Youtube basically disqualified all the bots from counting on the VOD. If Sara's VOD is high after it ends we'll know something even weirder is up.
>>23675858It's because those bots haven't hurting the feelings of the Chinese people. HoloDrones (despite being real people) are flagged but wheelbarrows are real. This is also why Luxiem is unculled. Susan respects a nation's sovereignty. COVER doesn't.
>>23676204this clearly isn't the same service as the one that was used on millie's
See guys, this is what actual view-botting looks liek
Some 2view winning gold from some weird glitch/bots/whatever the fuck this is would be the weirdest way of killing off /#/
>>23676204Millie's botted stream was one goddamn service on the big wide internet. Stop always comparing to it, its meaningless.
>>23676003>There was some consistency though.Was there? I have never seen anybody provide any kind of explanation for how its calculated that actually checks out, it always seemed completely arbitrary.
SARA MOGGING HOLOLIVE LETS GOOOOOO
>>23675758kek
>>23676230Actually, it does look similar in behavior to those dodgecoin/Elon Musk/Tesla streams.
>>23676223>Susan respect sovereignity>it was Youtube's analytics that was labeling Taiwan as a countrywhat does he mean by this?
>>23675623Is her graph tracked anywhere so we can see if she has the chinese worm?
30k
30k jesus fuck
Jesus it just spiked like 1.5k ccv in like 5 seconds. Fucking hell this poor girl is being used as a bot/view farm test isn't she.
>>23676267consistency in that people were getting similar numbers day in- day out.That's why CCVID and The Cull stuck out so much.
JANNIEEEEES WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING THIS TIME, DON'T BAN THE WHOLE THREAD AGAIN PLS
>>23676352People do that?
Even nips are talking about ithttps://twitter.com/LikeGlide/status/1521981527076208640
shes ending in about 20mins so we'll be able to see the vod. hopefully she posts her analytics for the stream
33k wtf
>just spiked to 33kTO THE FUCKING MOON, TAKE REAL GOLD AND BREAK /#/ FOREVER
33k and still going upAll vtubers btw
What if she gets gold?
What was Sykkuno's peak, 40k?
I-I kneel...
>>23676360>40k likesjesus thats commitmentbut is terrilbe song to loop
>>23676423Would she be able to do it? Or does it have to be cleared by corpo first before posting it?
>>23676476>if sheit's pretty much certain at this point lol
>>23676503i have no idea on what their rules are
>>23676476We'll have one really weird data point that will make everyone say "what happened there" in the future, and she'll have a weird story to tell when she eventually ends up in Niji or Holo EN.
>>23676476are there enough sara lewds?
TAKOKEKSEXPLAIN
Sony saw what was happening with niji and bought prism to test shit out on them. Watch it happen to versen in a little while.
>>23676537There's probably like 2 dozen fanarts of her at all.
>>23676551Minecraft is a x100 CCV buff game
37K AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
39k!
>39kMiko hasn't even streamed today and she already slipped!
>>23661689This dude is an evil genius. Basically give the middle finger to nijiniggers
AHHHHH SHE'S GOING TO MEDAL
lol just skipped from 36k to 39k. this has potential for real gold as well now
>EN MONTHLY GOLDEN MONTHLY GOLD>EN MONTHLY GOLDEN MONTHLY GOLD>EN MONTHLY GOLDEN MONTHLY GOLD>EN MONTHLY GOLDEN MONTHLY GOLD
SAY IT WITH MEPRISM GOLD
40k... if this passes Mio...
>youtube rolls out new update>some nigger uses the loopholes to mess around with bots
>>23676660Holy shit it's the worm.
40k get
I mean she's definitely getting way more viewers than normal since 630 votes are still 630 votes.
SHE DID IT
>>2367669040K get
>>23676660I wonder if she feels bad. Now people will just click on the stream without actually paying attention to any of her war crimes.
GO SARA GO
40K GET
OH NO NIJIBROS THE BOTS TARGETED THE WRONG STREAM
5.7k likes now and 680 votes in the pollIt did attract a lot of actual people at least.
>>23676716THE NIJIEN SPECIAL
>>23676707There's a lot of tourists showing up by word of mouth and probably even some legit algo recommends at this level.
>PRISM GOLDPRISM GOLD>PRISM GOLDPRISM GOLDyou better have lewds at the ready, numberfags
>>23676707yeah, everyone is checking out what the fuck is happening
42k now
Proposition, with bots and raids being a common thing now we need a new categoryI propose the name "Vox Gold"
Now comes the real test of this thread. Will Tally anon exercise actual logic and not count this stream or are botted streams a-okay?
>>23676707There's more IPs in this thread than her average viewers
Sony, this is so transparent...
>>23676777manchurian gold
>>23676758all vt anons
>>23676758... the poll just spiked 10 votes 4 times.Real people or is something funky happening there too?
>>23676707I definitely clicked on her stream and voted only because of whatever is happening to her stream right now lmao.
>>23676780He's been counting NijiEN golds all this time, so I guess this counts too
43k
>>23676803lel>>23676799Considering people have attention spans lower than a rock's, then nobody will care.
>doesn't actually play minecraft any more>still going upuh huh, well there goes any theory about it being kiddies or something
is she on playstation auto play or some shit?
>>23676780I mean if the NijiEN males count then...
>>23676831Real people, there's probably like 500+ people in there now, plus some churn from people who checked it out and left.
She's going to raid Nia lolol we can see what happens there too
44k
>>23676780If NijiEN's numbers count, then this one counts too.
Mio your gold...
Susan's going to pull the plug soon
>>23676891Youtube finally removed the cull huh
>>23676878Do you have a link for this Nia's channel so we can see what happens?
SARA USE THE RAID FUNCTION
>She is going to raid Niaholy fuckALL PRISM MEDALS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
>44k viewers bypassing verification>less vod views than there are likes>an order of magnitude less poll votes than there are vod viewsNice site Susan and pajeets, you fucking retards
>>23676919https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOPl6suLE5s
>>23676780Youtube API says she has 42k viewers, it's not his job to decide if those are real or not
>>23676919herehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw1KNjVqfrJSfcFd6zlcSzA
could she get in trouble if she does a Raid and sends a fuckton of bots?
45k
it's time
>>23676707Just came to this thread because the algorithm made it pop into my recommendation and had no idea why her ccv was so high, so the bots help in that regard as well
>>23676957>tunes in>poop talkit's all so tiring...
>>23676891>>23676976Who raided her?
>>23676975I mean guess only one way to find out
jwu what the fuck happened, did they break the fucking website
>Join the stream>The first thing I hear is her talking about poopAnd then some of you dare to ask why people only watch Hololive
>>23677004Bots
>>23676975They'd have cause to sue Youtube if they actually do that, since, if pajeet confirms it was bots, then, with NijiEN as precedent, she can say she just thought it was something that could happen.
>>23677004god himself
Now there’s Japanese viewers showing up.
>>23677004me
>>23677015In fairness if you join a Gura stream at the wrong time a similar thing could happen
>>23677015unchi
>>23677004Literally a single anon with a crypto account.
>>23677015Then you haven't watched Gura.
>>23677021>>23677065>>23677080No seriously, WHO!?
>>23677027Yes Prism Project is going to win a lawsuit against Google.
Watching the actual stream...does this dumb bitch think there are 40k people actually watching? The chat and votes btfo that pretty hard. I guess she's running high on adrenaline.
watamage give more numbers!
>sexy design>no pornthe tragedy of the 2view
>>23677131nope
>>23661552>>23661568Why is Mio sexy?
>she got a message on slack>something about NijisanjiWhat was it?
>>23677131>somehow can’t tell what sarcasm sounds like.
>>23677082>>23677111he said he only watches hololivegura is EN
>>23677150She has some, it just mostly sucks. The only god one got deleted from the guy going AWOL
>>23677161someone was spamming this>にじさんじ所属メリッサキンレンカ引退
>>23677012> A new feature breaks the siteJee, who would have guessed
>>23677150>2viewDo you not see the 40 thousand people
>>23677131Even 1k people watching is a big jump for her, if I remember their debuts didn't even get close to that. Maybe 300 people?
>>23677131She literally said that she knows but wants to live in denial to bask in the moment.She is tallying the "actual" viewers through the poll.
>>23677131you gotta be dumb to even consider this especially if you're watching the stream
>>23677161No it was a Japanese message in chat idk why they said.
>MAY 2022 GOLD1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 20223) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu5) Sara (PRISM Project) - 43,346 - Minecraft>PER COMPANY3x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji, PRISM Project>PER STREAMER1x: Kanata, Miko, Mio, Nijisanji, Sara
44k now. going up again
ngl she's actually entertaining. subbed.
>>23677273faggotI was about to post the same picthis is literally the one half-decent looking art of her I could findfuck you
>>23677273THE Sara Nagare from prism project generation 4 here to create history?
Going up at intervals just like the worms.
>>23677200Fucking nijiniggers
>Watching ENlol no thxBasically this >>23677178
>almost 3k for a SC reading when there's someone else actually playing a gameWhy
How the fuck are the bots being count? What the fuck are these retards doing when blatant bot shit like this is still being displayed for half an hour?
>>23677328the serpent storyteller herself
>>23677273AIEEEEEEE I KNEEL PRISMCHADS
Anon who bought the bots. I'm laughing my ass over here, thanks.
>>23677273>GURA KILLERGURA KILLER>GURA KILLERGURA KILLER>GURA KILLERGURA KILLER>GURA KILLERGURA KILLER
>>23677328THE Serpent Storyteller?
>>23677178Doesn't Shion also talk about unchi?
>>23677296Same, never watched her before but I like her voice. Certainly worth a chance.
>>23677374wait for the vod viewsif she somehow EVEN breaks 20k then something is wrong
didn't millie say she could see the real number of viewers?why can't sara see it?
>>23677422i don't think shes got it up
>>23677407Yes, but Japanese are pure unlike those dirty western whores
>>23667705Welcome to the stock market, anon. Enjoy the yabs and buy the dips.
>>23677422Bots vs viewfarms
>>23677371How new?
Her highest vod is 13k views lmao
>>23677422I think Millie was referencing her pre-bot number, just awkwardly because ESL.
GO MIO GO BEAT THE 2VIEW
>>23676476Random Snake girls lewds will suffice
>>23677420Not particularly. People are actually naturally joinig now because it's like "what the fuck is going on"
>>23677422More expensive bots.
Mio just fucking black hole’d the shit out of Ina and Mel. They both lost 2k each to Mio’s stream kekIna losing 2k to it is surprising though
>>23677483She was a 3view, I think.
>>23677483mio would need like, 45knot gonna do it
>>23677501that is ina stream shitting the bed
>>23677420since shes at 1.1k votes its fair to say her real ccv is around that
>>2367750280-110 usually.
>>23677501Coincidence for Ina, her chat is spamming the buffering emote so its tech issues
>>23677491What would the VOD for a 1k 1 hour stream look like? 15k at 5 hours out?
wtf are those nijsanji spammers
>>23677501I thought that was Ina's internet shitting itself again
Fauna is making a new stream for Skyrim.
>>23677538>44 minsnot really, you have to account for churn rate, i'd say is around half of that
>>23677131Don't ask me how I know you're stupid
WHAT DID YOU LOSERS DO NOW
>>23677501Fuck you, Mio. I'm giving a view back to Mel.
it's slowly going downsusan caught on
Mio 25k43,710 the highest Liveranking got and the number to beat
>>23677569It is. Ina's internet is dying every 5 minutes.
>>23677524>>23677569Oh could be, I just looked at the graphs so I saw both drop as the stream started
>>23677315Just screenshot then, she's sexy as fuck.
>>23677556>nijiniggers attentionwhoringClassic.>>23677538Considering what's happening, it's more like half of that, since she had that poll a bit after it started to blow up, and it had like 600 for a good while before that too started going up because of tourists.
>>23677593we didn't do shit lmao, we don't know what's going on
>she's showing off her body nowThe things they'll do to keep the numbers
Why does Sara's model look amazing and that Nia catgirl she is proposing to raid look like dogshit? Is their 3D just that jank?
>>23677648She made her 3d herself, that's why. her live 2d is a lot better
>>23677593If anyone /here/ had a part to play in this they aren't talking, so I'm assuming it's one of the many other third parties this time around
>>23677648nia made her 3d herself i believe
>>23677593This one isn't on us we are just as suprised and confused as everyone else.
Heh now this got interesting, Mio got 42k yesterday with a stronger lineup she might not be able to caught to the snake
>>23677407noshion doesn't stream
>>23677648is a self made 3d she didit isnt her real 3d model...assuming theyever get one
Wtf bros she got Kronii's snake. Is Kronii dead?
>>23677648She made it herself genius.
Mel… My poor Mel…
>5.3k likesHm.. interesting..
>>23677703Boros was already hunted on Kirby streams.
>>23677703She had it first
>>23677448there are some dirty whores in japan toolike rushia for instance
>>23677692it was funny at the beginning anon but you can stop being retarded now
>>23677725Wait...her likes got culled?
>>23677747And chloe... literally
Yup, Susan is definitely working now. The bots managed to stay up for quite a while.
>>23677692I wouldn't say yesterday was stronger than today 2bh
>>23677692We are not counting Sara's botted stream.
>>23677761No, it's sat at 5k this whole time.
I like her and she knows that she can still retain the real peoples that discovered her with the botsSubbed,the snek is cute
Ahhhh this incident will give her permanent inclinePeople are checking her outSony I kneel
>>23675801>>23675839WE MUST IMPLEMENT ANTI-DOPING TESTS NOW!!
>>23677805she has an aussie accent...so this is the better sana...
Why can’t EN get lines like this..
>>23677859I’ve been telling people this for a while this is what sana should have been.
>>23677538LolI call it bots.
>>23677724Very hard for the imitation to beat the original
>>23677194>The only good one got deletedGot a backup?
>>23677859i think both are cute and fun because i think aussie voices are hot. but sara reads the stupid things i say in chat, so... kind of a clear favorite.
>>23677859Far better design too.
>>23677811Of course it will, anyone checking out livers will get her on first page.
>>236778005.9k now
>>23677724unironically good actually, she had 4k a couple times and then failed to get it for a few editions and now she got it again, if she keeps it up, she'll get a guaranteed 4k soon and she can keep working up from that
>>23677899I dont but someone on /ppg/ probably has, it's just her tits tho
>>23676915Can't wait for Gura's return stream to get 1.2 million CCV
>>23677859>better sanaNot that it's hard to accomplish this, but her model is very cute and the tracking seems ok too.
>>23677881All of their regulars are culled. Here's what an EN graph with unculled tourists looks like
>>23677881If HoloEN had their Youtube channels set to America for their location instead of Japan, then they would.
>>23667337So, why no one listed the reasons for those graduations like it was done with holo? because a lot of those had many different reasons as well>>23667163As it shouldn't. VirtuaReal Link and VirtuaReal Star aren't part of Nijisanji, they are independent vtubers.>>23667164Noone gonna beat that? Look at Re:act and wactor faggot. Nijisanji graduation number for the number of vtuber they have is number. What isn't normal is how much smaller agencies like react have more retired members than active ones.>>23666993VR had 9 graduations. VR Link doesn't count because those are independent vtubers not owned by Anycolor/Bilibili. They can and already divested from them or straight up graduated and they own their model as they were indies before getting a network affiliation. Like, the article in the wikia make it clear VR Link and VR Star aren't the same thing as the main VR..
>>23677859her accent isn't as good as sana's, imo.But we need a true bogan chuuba.
>>23677881not even some of the jp girls get this (read haachama's graph)
>>23677916>livers
>>23677273Cunny...please...come back...
>>23677916>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>livers
Hololive vs Prism gold race, wtf is this timeline
>>23677988It's what youtube calls it.
>>23677943>it's just her tits thoAh, shame.
>>23678023Bot timeline
>>23677273I'm pretty sure she peaked at at least 45k
>>23677795Why not? Niji EN is still in the tally and you have no definitive proof that this stream is being botted either.
>>23678027no they don't
Hope she wraps it up and raids the other girl so we can see if any of them transfer.
Okay I'm done watching. She's god awful at Minecraft.
>>23678064>you have no definitive proof that this stream is being botted either>eitherThanks for confirming it was bots, Sonychama.
>>23677859I like Sana too, the aussie accent is a buff to me
>>23678057Highest liveranking got was 43,710 but yeah I saw 45k too
>>23677881Most of the HoloEN/ID regulars are flagged/culled. It's probably the reason why non-touristy streams get really low CCV compared to their VOD views; like Gura's 'Project Wingman' stream or Mumei's 'Filler Episode' stream yesterday.
Time for the raid, let's see how this works
We get to watch a live redirect Live
Now to see how fast the bots dip.
time for raid demonstration
>>23677859sorry mio but I'll be watching sara for nowalso, haachama's aussie accent is STILL superior
Susan...
>she's going to raidI can't believe we will see a bot redirecting live. I love this snake already.
>Sony bots her chuuba stream to make noise>Tourist check her stream to see what's happening>Some of them may like her and staySony I kneel
PRISM GOLDPRISM SILVER
>nia sabotaging her own shot at becoming a temporary 5viewrip
yesterday itt i asked if bots/viewfarm will follow raidtoday >we are seeing a demonstration of it
>it doesn't workBRAVO YOUTUBE
I was subbed but I just dropped it. I hate bots. Sorry for the girl.
>>23678220>>23678187>>23678185>It's a confusing clusterfuck that doesn't workGood Job Youtube
she should know her actual ccv though right? I think she deserves gold for the day if no one beats her ngl
Dumb catgirl dropping the ball
So if its bots..how come the viewers actually went down when she stopped playing minecra?
>>23678266It's the difference between knowing what a car crash is in theory and seeing one happening in real time.
>Youtube raid system brokenlmao
>>23678311>deserves
>>23678311No. It will not show until it processes and the AI annotates later.
The funniest thing is that the viewers are declining like for a normal stream
>>23678318Don’t talk about my wife like that she’s trying her best.
Nia you had one job...
Strap in boys, raid imminent!
109 before redirect
>>23678374I mean that would explain the numbers pretty sure it was already broken.
>Nia decides to debuff herself with 3D model for fun>Happens to be the same day as a once in a lifetime raid
mio 36k and still only 2 guests in btwbut this is how it works huh...
this is actually pretty exciting
The views are acting going up I wonder if these are real people tho.
>redirect worksOh shit. YouTube actually did something right.
>>23678418seems that the bots/viewfarm didn't get redirected
>It went to 315
It looks like the raid is only taking her real viewers+ tourists who were there for the big numbers.
319 now
>only 300 viewersbots are not redirected confirmed
200 increase give or take, bots closed the tab
It's at 300. Were those all the real viewers? kek
from around 100 -> 300
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>>23678480koyo was really cute and luna currently sounds like a fucking zombie
so visual glitch?
Guess bots dont have autoplay on.
>>23678527Nia already had like 100~ so 200~ ish moved over I guess
>>23678492It has a lot of conditions that both the streamer and the viewer must meet, but yes.
SOOOOOOOOONY DEPLOY THE BOTS
>>23678492Yeah, it was just an "autoplay next video" type thing.
i figured as much but redirecting doesn't work on holodexI wonder if holodex can even implement it or if it affects numbers significantly
>>23678418>>23678509so only around 200 got redirected since shes now down to 300
>you have to click on the GO NOW button to be redirectedThe bots won't work.
>>23678549no sane person has autoplay on on youtube. you don't need autoplay on to get redirected by a raid
>>23678573I didn't click shit and I was after a few seconds
>>23678573manjisanji...
>>23678573no, it was auto play for me
>>23678573It auto-directed me. There was almost 0 lag from one stream ending and the other starting.
>>23678573turn on autoplay if you want to redirected automatically
I'm not even sure it sent all the real viewers on the raid. Seems kind of buggy.
Raids seem wonky, but I'm surprised they got them to work
>>23678549I don't have autoplay enabled and still got redirected
>>23678573it did it automatically for me but i did have the option before that
>>23678587I didn't click and it redirected me to Kobo's Karaoke
>>23678573I didn't, I got redirected immediately, maybe you just don't have autoplay enabled
>>23678573I did not have to
So...basically it was a visual glitch all along? I doubt whoever programmed the bots/is view farming made them already interact with the redirect system so they don't get redirected.Bravo youtube, now instead of culls we have inflations!
My inner schizo is awakening.NUMBERSARENTREAL ALLISMADEUP WEWELLNEVERKNOWTHEREALNUMBERS
>>23678573I think that's only if you don't have autoplay enabled.
God fucking damn it... I thought this month we can finally move on from contested tally results...On that note, think Holo-Niji have what it takes to take this off the podium?
The numbers are no longer big. Time to exit.
>>23678587>>23678573>Was about to post "I didn't click shit and was redirected">thread updated and anon posted "I didn't click shit and I was after a few seconds"WE ARE
>>23678603hard to tell when the stream had quite the ilegal viewerswe need a more faitfull or legit numebrs to see how it works.
>>23678606Now let's see if CCVID FULL comes back in 2 days.
I have it deactived and still got redirected automatically
>>23678645>think Holo-Niji have what it takes to take this off the podium?Wait 12 hours.
>>23678564I have auto-play turned off and it worked with me., so it doesn't need the auto-play feature on at all. This is very well implemented.Now, if Susan actually fixed the CCV validator for once...
I'm just going to start botting my oshi, her chat is fast, she doesn't do polls and her likes are usually pretty high so it won't look shady, sorry to mess up your shitty tally losers kek
>>23678626Pretty deep glitch if it got her to the top of the category.>>23676467
>>23678645Mio is at 38.5k atm, she might pass it within the next hour
>>23620312the answer is nobased farm operators. no double dipping on susan's broken site
>>23678603It sent all the ones who had autoplay on it seems. But a lot of people only were here for the ride, and now that it ended, they left.
>>23678714Why are Holokeks like this
The VOD only has 5k views...
VOD numbers?
>>23678644I have mine turned off and still get redirected
rumaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU6P3fSEY5Q
>>23678783Processing my guy
>>23678769I didn't click a thing nor do I have auto-play on and I got redirected.
ngl this cat girl is pretty cute.
>>23678783
>>23678699Something in 12hrs?>>23678743That's just gold. I track silver&bronze
>>23678808it won't have that many more anyway
>>23678807>>23678783Still counts, PRISM gold.
>>23678825the background noise is absolute cancer but she seems cute enough
>>23678825Can confirm, my cat is really cuteAnd has decent bit of porn
>>23678807if the bot/viewfarm views get validated, this should be at least a 240k vod
>>23678645Podium? Doubt.Gold? Yes.
>39k but droppingPRISM Gold that is...
We all thought bots, but what if an algorithm bug dumped her onto the front page of 50k smart tvs and 6 year olds clicked or something like that? Would also show no engagement
>>236788075k is still a lot higher than it should be, even if she had 80 before and got about 1k people as tourists.
>>23678807>>23678783Maybe just a visual glitch? Fucking pajeet code
>>23678818It must be something similar, because I wasn't. And by the view count, I know that at least around 300 people also weren't automatically redirected.
>45k peak>5.9k likes>1.3+ votesHow do you explain this oddity /#/bros?
>>23678873it'll start going back up soon, this isn't out of the ordinary
>>23678908active tab?Active window?
>>23678892Why would it exclusively target people unable to interact in any way whatsoever, and why would the number fluctuate up and down by the hundreds every second?
>>23678838Sanbaka on niji channel.
>>23678909unaborted fetuses watching
>>23678807funnily enough this is already her most popular VOD after her debutso who knows what happened? maybe people from here rushed to check what was happening and that gave her an unironic boost