/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Who genuinely loves her fans?

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>>23520736
Watame has a debilitating addiction to spending time with her fans

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>>23520736
Pomu loves her Pomus.

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>>23520736
I mean it depends on what kind of "love" we're talking about... Unhealthy Mikeneko kind of love? Kiara kind of love who I would worry about her mental state if she lost KFP? Pandering Love like Lamy?

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>>23520736

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>>23520736
This is some MichaelCat shit

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Not Ame, that's for sure

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>>23521613
Polka deserves way more fans for the amount of work she puts in.

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>>23520736
Define love, OP.

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>>23520736
Vox

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>>23521605
>Kiara kind of love who I would worry about her mental state if she lost KFP
she's not THAT bad, right?

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You can't truly love thousands of people, actually you can't even love dozens of people.
And you can't love someone you have never met.

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>>23520736
Anon.... its called manipulation. Open your eyes.

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>>23521985
Kiara is not manipulating me for money! She genuinely cares about me and loves me! I just have to give her more of my time and superchats...

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>>23521891
uh yeah i would totally be worried for her lol i've watched and listened to enough sc tangents to know that she'd shatter emotionally

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>>23520736
post the second one

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>>23522115
Kiara struggled without success for like 10 years and now she's actually got a fanbase of hyper-dedicated people following her every move as an idol. She's also prone to mental breakdowns. If KFP disappeared tomorrow she'd be broken into a billion jagged tiny pieces.

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>>23521985
Correct, we're manipulating Kiara

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>>23520736
None, women only care about money

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>>23520736
my oshi. (You)r oshi hates her fans!

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>>23522115
>>23522487
Kek

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>>23522640
>women only care about money
So you're saying Kronii is the only one who loves her fans?

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>>23520736
Kiara cares about being idolized and famous. Not her fans.

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>>23521678
die, purple shart poster

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>>23523266
Kronii hates men

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>>23523441
Kronii is genderfluid. She's not bound by the conventions of women.

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my oshi loves me that is all that matters

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Not even close shitbird

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>>23520736
Loving people on the internet is very weird because you are never gonna meet them. At least with chat you can interact with them, but otherwise is like a void. VTubers can be very glad about their fans making their lives better, but it's more like an abstract concept, but that also goes both ways, since the fans will never meet the real person, we actually get close to very few people in real life. The bonds that tie us together are very thin, even if we need them to keep on living.

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>>23520736
My beloved dragon

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>>23523475
>gender fluid
So a woman then

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>>23524285
At least the kusotori encourages her fans to touch grass, unlike the Gato Miguel menhera who tries to make em believe that they are married altogether or some shit like that

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>>23520736
kiara loves the "idea" of loving her fans. because what she really loves is being a traditional idol, and loving their fans is what idols are "supposed" to do

there might be no difference in the end?

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>>23523475
I'm gonna pump her full of my fluids

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>>23520736
I dont watch anyone that lies well enough to trick her fan base enough to think that she loves them.

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>>23521903
>And you can't love someone you have never met.
Every girl/woman I banged in adulthood said they loved me before we met

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>>23521605
The menhera love is the best. Codependent parasocial relationships.

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>>23525362
Liking the idea of someone and being parasocial are two different things

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>>23525544
Not relevant to what I'm saying, the chemicals required to fall in love can be obtained through text

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>>23524603
Based. It's very difficult for a vtuber to truly "love" their fans without it becoming equally unhealthy for both sides. A vtuber does not have to love their fans in a parasocial way, only show them a great and equal amount of appreciation and respect.

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>>23525362
Okay but that doesn't matter if you've banged a total of 0 women

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>>23525651
Your cope doesn't matter

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>>23525618
Right, my bad.
thought you were replying to a different message

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>>23524987
>kusotori encourages her fans to touch grass
Is it weird that I think Kiara's hangups with men helped her have a healthier relationship with chat?

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>>23520736
from what I've seen, she at least seems to genuinely appreciate having them, some examples:

>she often gets distracted while playing games because she wants to talk to chat
>ok with backseating
>her zatsu gimmick is shrinking her model and moving it next to the chat box so she can be closer to them
>her zatsus also seem to run the longest in her gen from what I've seen, and she's often the last one to end her collab POV because she sticks around to talk with chat
>was clearly bewildered by being called mommy when it started but ultimately became okay with it because in her own words, it made chat happy
>during her superchat catchups, whenever she received a super in a language she didn't know, she would open google translate, formulate a response, and often spend minutes trying to pronounce it
>she does the secret ending thing where she just hangs around in the outro to say goodbye a bunch of times, she even thanked a superchat sender who sent one during that outro

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>>23520736

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>>23520736
Koyori, I hope.

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>>23521903
There's no way that people mean love when they say what the OP said
It's more of a
>I genuinely love this community, I appreciate providing content for them and seeing them react positively
You have to see it as a mass, not individual people

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>>23526343
unironically the reason I think highly of Kiara despite not watching her.

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>>23526343
I hope this girl lives a good life after Hololive

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>>23526343
Considering what I heard about her, it's amazing she can show this much affection to a predominantly male fanbase

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LIES, NOTHING BUT LIEEEEEES

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>>23520736
cant be true love until you orally creampie her then let you see her play with your cum with her toungue then drink it afterward

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>>23520736
Don't confuse literally having every aspect of your life depending on people with love

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>>23526692
It's not true love until she asks you if it's okay to kiss you afterwards.

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>>23524603
>but it's more like an abstract concept
exactly its the simulation of people that someone like kiara and her fans are falling in love with. they don't actually love anyone but themselves and the fantasy that they create in their minds
its actually terribly sad the modern world has so atomized people that one is unable to form a relationship with another human and depend on a technologically facilitated facsimile
not that 4chan is really any different all just variations on the same theme, this civilization is not long for the world.

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>>23526343
cringe to the shivers down my spine

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>>23526807
>this civilization is not long for the world.
obviously, we're quite clearly aliens

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>>23526807
You have to love yourself in order to have the self-worth to love others.
Which is why most people here are incapable of love, and only capable of obsession.

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I hope KFP gives her all this love back, at least

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I stopped watching for a while because she's kind of dumb, her chat is a hellhole, and my schedule doesn't match hers atm - but "Ohno" Onolumi. I'm still a member since day 1 even.

Has a real job, yet still streams more than your corpo. Streams boomer jank that will never be as popular as typical FOTM content. Puts stream earnings into skeb commissions. Made a $1 tier to allow as many people as possible to join membership. Is really interested in everyone and tries to read all chat even though its hard because shes dumb and so is the chat. Will plead with you to stay after the game stream and chat for 5 minutes with her. Chats for another 2 hours instead. Constantly putting her own money into more assets like overlays and rigging (her model is top tier even compared to corpos).

I find it hard to really judge her character and why she is like she is, but she does seem 100% genuine.

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>>23526807
you experience everything through your consciousness anon
there is nothing but the mind

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>>23521891
Not schizo, but probably suicidal

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>>23526613
She just needs to marry someone from kfp

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>>23526962
you are not wrong, depending on the level of analysis, but that is really beside the point

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>>23526648
Explain

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>>23520736
Me

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>>23526343
>June 14, 2021
Feels like ancient history, man.
>>23526623
Helps it's both purely platonic and her fans are overwhelmingly not greasy old JP 'producers'.

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>>23521605
>>23521891
I'm more worried about her losing either of her cats first before ever losing KFP.

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>>23520736
None of them. They do love your money and fawning over though.

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>>23527743
we know Hana, now go back

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>>23526931
>doesn't use twitter for networking or growing her social media but instead just retweets lewds of anime characters, vidya characters, other vtubers
>hasn't done a single collab since her debut 6 months ago
>didn't even do a debut stream
>has 2 completely different live2D character models just for the lols
>doesn't do any member-only stream at all, membership is just for emotes

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>>23520736
i love u
i love u
i love u
i love u
i love u kiwawa

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>>23526313
Luv me hagsmith. Simple as

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Is kiara a tranny?

This is important

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Kiara does not really love her fans she loves her numbers and the validation it gives her. Fans are numbers to her thats why she wants you to stream sparkz and numberfags about her JRPG streams.
But anon, how come she does care about individual fans, you might ask. If someone sends her superchats they also become numbers. More superchats are better numbers.
It is impossible to love you for anything besides that becauese you are only a number to her.

Let's see how much she loves you if her ccv drops to 2view territory.

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>>23529843

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>>23529866
Send Kiara that pic and ask her if she thinks its funny.

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>>23520736
>>23526343
Kiwawa rabu

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>>23529907
https://streamable.com/drllcb

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>>23529843
>Let's see how much she loves you if her ccv drops to 2view territory.
if she dropped to 2view wouldn't she try to lovefag even harder to get more attention?

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>>23521811
Love is a chemical reaction put into 3 sets of reactions.
Testosterone and estrogen that drive the lust.
Dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin which create attraction.
Oxytocin and vasopressin creating attachment.

The hypothalamus stimulates the sex hormones.

Attraction set comes due to the reward system of the brain, thats the dopamine released spending time with those you love. Its a drug, addictive, making us want more and happy.

Attachment is created by the Oxytocin and is released like dopamine and mainly during sex.

Its a cycle between lust, attraction and attachment, chemicals that fuel itself and react to each other.

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>>23520736
fakest shit i've seen in this board

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>>23529907
fuck off chud shes a blm supporter >;c

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>>23526623
Chicken is its own gender

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Uruha Rushia used to say the same thing.....

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>>23530627
NO STFU

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Me
I love all my fans

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>>23530685
Especially during summer.

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>>23520736
Why do we need to love...fans?

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>>23530685
>>23530711
fantastic job /vt/

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I think IRyS does

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>>23530780
Not for long, she started hanging out with the brapper and the Other's tweets started getting more mori-ish since. Now you're just waiting for the cuck porn review.

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>>23530685
thank you risu

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>>23525618
They weren't in love with you, they just wanted to satiate their sexual desire.

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>>23520736
Kiara is better than most, but there's definitely a large portion of us that she's ignoring when she says stuff like that. In Hololive, I think only Gura actually loves everyone. It's less romantic and more benevolent, though.

Looking outside of Hololive, I think Menace loves her audience the most.

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While we're on the topic which chuuba does /vt/ recognize as a bona fide yandere ?
Not the kind who does asmr or shorts once in a while to clickbait but some good menhera clinginess ? There has to be atleast one.

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>>23531834
keep coping

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>>23524603
>Loving people on the internet is very weird because you are never gonna meet them.
You say that like it's a bad thing

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>>23532191
One anon I saw, a former zoombie guy, said she started getting fuckin weird and unhealthy in members streams, such as allowing people who more or less said she was the reason they were alive, and kept crying with them about it. It's possible she was doing similar things but the topic of the conversation was elsewhere so he didn't mention it that much.
Some anons say Polka is very very clingy in members as well.

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>>23531834
Kek, I would actually prefer that since it would imply I'm an attractive guy.

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>>23530685
beatani...

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>>23527638
You could have not said this.

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>>23520736
There is no such thing as love in this type of field. But, Just like any typical human, as long as you keep providing them with $$ then you'll get back your moneys' worth of service. Genuine love died when people started connecting relationships on the internet folks, It's just not it. You want the real thing? do it in the "actual" real thing.

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>>23532762
Bless you Anon and thanks for the info

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>>23529843
leaves for a minute to pick up a package, comes back and immediately whines about losing 400 viewers
https://youtu.be/pv6WndTSb8M?t=6834

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>>23529843
>>23533660
Kys

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>>23533660
>is an obsessive numberfag
>blames viewers' "attention span"

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>>23532191
Do you not know who fallenshadow is?

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>>23533660
Doesn't that mean she loves them so much she doesn't want them to leave

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>>23526313
the runts of a gen seem to appreciate their fans far more, Kiara,Kaela,Nene

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You guys are mean, Kiara deserves to be loved

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>>23534050
Thanks for the recommendation, she might be what I was looking for, I thought it was a persona until you and archives told otherwise.

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>>23534241
Well if they cannot get a lot more new fans then they must leglock the existing ones

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>>23534572
I wish Kiara would leglock me

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>>23532609
based

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>>23529843
>you are only a number to her.
come to think of it part of her merch was literally an "employee card" where you write down your number and her fans have been asking her in superchats "please give me my employee number" and she makes one up off the top of her head. Literally a number to her

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>>23529843

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Watame, Nene, IRyS, and Mio

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As an indiechad. Kiara is the only non-musical corpo I keep up with. She just seems like the ideal vtuber. Her only problem is her voice.

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>>23535117
>IRyS

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>>23520736
>picrel

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>>23520736
All of them love their fans.

Imagine being a a nobody who suddenly becomes idolized by people all over the world because they find your awkward personality cute and addicting.

That's something a vtuber with a following no matter how small feel, they all have a somehwat indebted feeling to their fans and that feeling is akin to love I believe. Love doesnt have to be romantic by the way, it can be what I described.

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Lamy

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Watame does several supacha reading streams every week, often going as long as 7-10 hours. Definitely one of the most dedicated and grateful member.

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>>23534146
If she had respect for her viewers she'd accept that they are entitled to switch channels if they want to, short attention span or not.

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>>23535031
Newfag here, how do I get the sound for this clip?

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>>23526796
It's not true love until you fuck her in the ass when she's suffering from diarrhea, finish off with a creampie in her menstruating womb then make her deepthroat your still-turgid dick.

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>>23529907
Is Kiara even aware of the existence of EL HUEVO? Seems like it would be beneath her to even find out.

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>>23530627
Say her name holobrony.

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>>23523441
Me too.
She loves the part of her fanbase that matters.

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>>23535551
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

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>>23537085
микaхил кoт...

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>>23526313
I love how amused she gets whenever reading chat, and how laid back her chat is (bar the occasional green supa spammer). Her zatsu can be awkward but it's her first month streaming in Holo + ESL so it's to be expected. She has clearly gotten more comfortable still and I'm looking forward to her development.

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>>23533660
It may be JOPs that are watching and don't understand what she's saying so they don't hear anything for a minute and leave.

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>>23526343
Every single VTuber does this, except she talks shit about her fans in private.

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>>23529770
No

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HOLOLIVE IS HOLO!
NIJI RULES!!!!!!!!!

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any tuber not willing to do ryona for her fans doesn't genuinely love them

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As an idolfag who understands idolfags
She claimed agape, the boundless divine love without condition

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>>23535551
>loves Mori’s fans more than mori already

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>>23538376
>He believes that other VTubers do not shit about their fans in private
NGMI

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>>23539649
*talk shit

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>>23537085
My cat

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>>23539649
>"he definitely likes me the most, he's bought my merch and I know his address"
>"who got his akasupa"
>"oh you bitch"