/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why 2D models are more popular than 3D, again? Heck, why even 2D models still relevant? I want to see my oshi making hand job gestures with their model and yet it feels like people are fine being stuck in 2018 tech. For all the SCs we poured to them we deserves better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
There is an ongoing vtuber arms race. Please wait patiently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
>we deserves better.
You deserve the rope.

[Anonymous No.]

>digitrevx
is that guy still even relevant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
actually all vtuber start with 3d, nijisanji popularize l2d because lower cost is more profit

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
>Why 2D models are more popular than 3D, again?
>$5k 3D model
>spends 90% of the time sitting still and playing games
>requires trackers on your body

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Epic thread, has to be bait.
Why would you use that guy as the op image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Learn English.

[Anonymous No.]

>wanting 3DPD

[Anonymous No.]

why is he typing like a youtube comment on twitter? is he trying to create the ultimate cancer?

[Anonymous No.]

>Twitter OP thread with Digi
/vt/ just keeps getting worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
>Why 2D models popular
Because of Tsukino Mito.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445569
But live2D models cost like 6 grand

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Is this guy just constantly assblasted

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
> Hot takes from 2view twittards

The absolute state of this board

[Anonymous No.]

Most 3D models are pretty bad. Especially the basic character creation one you see everyone on Twitch using.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
>stuck in 2018 tech
Retard and new, early vtubers were predominantly 3D, only when the iPhone X released (september 2018) did people realize it was really much more efficient to use it's 3 camera setup to track a simple 2D avatar because guess what, 3D is expensive and 2D is not as expensive, plus the audience doesn't require that much more.

Having said that, some nijisanji members like Ange Katrina use simple 3D setups that allows them to move their hands, on the other hand when Mikocchi tried having hands the tracking was wack and she dropped them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Of course this roach didn't hang himself in shame yet.

[Anonymous No.]

VRoid avatars have brought down the prestige of 3D avatars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Because anime girls are 2d only

[Anonymous No.]

>>23446496
I remember when Azuma Lim was going to be a rising star because of her insane tracking, and then her black company stepped in to stop it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
2D has more Soul is that simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
>20 posts and nobody posted the real answer
Because 3D models require as many VR laser trackers as possible and wearing armbands/headbands along with the required space to set it up. Extra processing power from the pc you're streaming for to handle all this, and setting it up every time. 2D models only require a fucking camera phone and turning on the tracking app.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23446231
that the quality one, that time nijisanji make the low effort one

[Anonymous No.]

>>23447103
3d home and l2d basically same, just the asset is different

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Melody traded her great 3D model for a shitty 2D one on the basis that the 3D one was "too much effort" to use regularly

[Anonymous No.]

2D is way easier to use, and also way easier to make it look appealing and avoid making it look like an uncanny valley monster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23446854
She's a vtuber motovlogger now huh.

[Anonymous No.]

picrel is the true answer btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>23449899

Yo that's really cool and creative, better than 99% of the vtuber shit I see everywhere. Shame it probably won't take off because the audience would rather fap to ASMR and form parasocial relatrionships with anime girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Because people into vtubers want anime.
3D isn't anime enough. People still shit on 3D anime even today, despite it being pretty good these days.

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>>23445451

[Anonymous No.]

>>23449899
I'm a weeb with a motorcycle and I'm happy that someone who caters to my hyper-specific desires exists. She even has most of her bike vids subbed in English!

[Anonymous No.]

>>23449899
Creative content is kino but requires a lot of effort and not everyone is into each thing.
Most people becoming vtubers can't be bothered to put that effort in so just go for the lowest effort that'll make a lot of people 'happy'
Life is cursed with many such tales, genuine talented content washed aside because "hurdur cute girl said a bad word" is more popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23450673
Honestly, I'm fine with that being more popular. Widespread appeal isn't something to be demonized and interesting creative stuff will continue to coexist alongside it. I love a lot of niche anime that I know won't be for everyone or take-off the same way something like MHA or Demon Slayer did, getting angry over it is pointless and counter intuitive to enjoying it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

It's easier to use.
3D tracking is fucking expensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
they just look better simple as
home tracking isn't that good and neither are the actual models. look at how bad they did with Gura's.
/thread now

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
3d models look like ass, especially hair. The only exciting thing about 3d reveals is laughing at all the jank for 30 minutes before the novelty wears off

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
How popular is GirlDM in comparison? She's the only vtuber of note I can think of with a good 3D model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Most 3D models don't look anime enough. They just look like those "how to draw anime" books made by westerners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
It’s supposed to look like anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
A few reasons.
>2D is cheaper
3D models are expensive if you're building from scratch, and like Melody discovered most the people you can "commission" for 3D models just rip from other people and slap new hair on it.
>2D is easier
3D models require advanced tracking mechanisms, usually something similar to a full VR setup on the low end. Its extremely bulky to use and not convenient for normal streaming even on the higher end. The tracking tools are also pretty expensive.
2D just requires a webcam to make work.
>Stylization
3D models often look terrible. Its hard to nail anime style in 3D and even top tier games struggle with it. The atelier games are probably the best "anime style" games I can think of and even they tend to be lacking in emotion.
You can just convey so much more with a 2D model ironically because of how the artist can stylize it in ways that are awkward and uncanny for 3D.
>Information sharing
On the tech side, according to 2nd hand knowledge the avatars for big corps just share movement information and don't stream the full visuals. This reduces overhead when hosting multiple streamers on 1 computer such as collabs. A 3D model has more movement information so this probably slows down and lowers quality of multi-streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
2d>3d
Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
There is A LOT of 3D chuubas on twitch.
Just get out of holo shell.
My guess is they just lazy/dont want to track their body.

[Anonymous No.]

why did mods stopped banning twitter threads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Because the effort to make a decent looking 3D model is not even half of the work needed for a great 2D one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
3d models brings them closer to the real world than 2d, if i cared about 3d I would watch real people

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
>Why 2D models are more popular than 3D, again?
cost

[Anonymous No.]

It's much easier to made a 2D model than a 3D one
You can make a 3D model which looks just as good as a 2D one, but it takes more work

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
The farther from 3D the better

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Cheaper to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>23445298
Stop overrating tech. It's almost meaningless compared to model design, personality and content.