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https://youtu.be/WNx2W4nt0V4
What happened to your stream nijikeks?

>> No.23347000

Context
>>23331437
In a recent stream by Nijisanji EN VTuber Luca Kaneshiro, he uses background music copyrighted to Hololive members Tokoyami Towa and Nekomata Okayu. The stream in question:
https://youtu.be/WNx2W4nt0V4

Though the stream is still ongoing, using the playback function you can see that around 43 minutes into the stream, he plays this song:
https://youtu.be/3f4KwDPMelE
Copyrighted to Hololive in the background.
And at around 1 hour 2 minutes in, he plays this song:
https://youtu.be/DkZwJm5wz_s
Also copyrighted to Hololive in the background.

>> No.23347089
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23347089

>a nothingburger they said

>> No.23347191

>>23346984
do you not know what unarchived means?

>> No.23347268
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>>23347191
yes anon, a totally unarchived stream

>> No.23347303

Luca is a based Towawa fan?

>> No.23347318

>luca is fucking stupid
more news at 11

>> No.23347334
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23347334

>>23346984

>> No.23347408

>>23347268
Ah my mistake, I don't watch niji
thought it was the other guy

>> No.23347451

>>23346984
The rundown is that he couldn’t follow the simple instructions Towa gave and just pasted the link without credits in his descriptions. Towa tweeting this made every JP fan start looking into Luca and that’s how they noticed, also he never got permission for Okayu’s song to begin with.

>> No.23347598

>>23346984
get fucked you nijiniggers

>> No.23347625

>>23347451
There's more than that, he used both Towa and Okayu's tracks in that video, but Towa can only give permission for one of them. So even if he did follow towa's instructions to the letter it wouldn't have saved him because Okayu and the guy who actually composed it didn't say anything at all, so he would've gotten fucked the moment the nips found out about ti

>> No.23347650

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30GJ3wK2ixA
>※この曲はフリーBGM素材ではありませんので、動画や配信でのご使用はお控えください。
>This song is not free BGM material. Please refrain from using this song in your videos or deliveries.

Kek

>> No.23347689

>>23347268
lmao don't use my screenshot, that was my mistake, I was kicked off like a minute later

>> No.23347731

>>23347689
sorry bro I needed the title and yours was the only one I could find

>> No.23347770

ルカのホロライブBGM無断使用のアーカイブ
https://youtu.be/Ah7g_5jwpyo
https://youtu.be/iCTXLVT7SdY
https://youtu.be/ATpodcBNaIA (概要欄記載なし)
https://youtu.be/Pj8RYDZvNBE
https://youtu.be/P145FYusZiY(概要欄記載なし)
https://youtu.be/zdxH7NRZPhE(概要欄記載なし)

とりあえずで掘ってみたんけど途中で数えきれないくらいやってるって気がついて掘るの止めた
マインクラフトとかBGM無しゲームは高確率でホロライブのBGM使用してるから掘ってみて


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.23347799

>hololive almost gets destroyed by copyrights
>proceed to copyright shit to fuck other people

>> No.23347803

Nippon Autism Folded 1000 Times

>> No.23347811

>nipple controversy
>cancelled sponsorships and events
>cancelled concerts
>no 3D for EN in sight
>no live2d updates in sight
>discord leak revealing them seetheposting about their superior rival, marking them as jealous hololive rejects for the rest of eternity
>males crashing yuribait off-collabs as a "surprise"
>Finana openly admitting to lying about it and selling it as a "girls night"
>comment sections getting closed to hide complaints
>girl streamers getting turned into accessories to the males and forced to exist just as walking collab platforms for males
>literally getting numbermogged by hololive's new INDOGS
>gen2 males are a huge flop
>can't get elden ring permissions
>their biggest streamer fails his subathon endurance stream and cucks out after a mere 5 hours
>Finana has a menhera meltdown on twitter about how nobody draws her in group fanart and cancels streams because of it
>AnyColor randomly tweets creepy vagueposts about "slander" for no apparent reason
>their chuuubas keep having freudian slips about Hololive such as Alban calling Petra "Gura" accidentally or Millie saying HoloJP instead of NijiJP in a tweet, which shows what really lives rent free in their head
>AnyColor literally goes public, to be defiled by chink investors
>Luka gets caught stealing Towa's copyrighted BGM music without permission or even crediting her, takes down his stream afterwards

What the FUCK is wrong with Nijisanji?
ANSWER ME. NOOOOOOOOW.

>> No.23347819

>>23347334
I thought it was Matsuri for a second.

>> No.23347942

>>23347799
>Nijiniggers get others in trouble but cry bloody murder when the same thing gets applied to them
you love to see it

>> No.23347976

>>23347770
holy shit he's actually a retard

>> No.23348098

>>23347811
He also stole Okayu BGM. This might be most important part consider Towa allowed use of her's BGM after his fuckup. Okayu didn't.

>> No.23348231

>>23347942
They've always been hypocrites and snowflakes.

>> No.23348287

>>23346984
Well obviously they're not just gonna leave up a stream with music they don't have permission for. It'll either stay down or have those parts removed/muted and THEN it'll become a nothingburger.

>> No.23348297

>>23347811
you sound more like a nijifag by posting this

>> No.23348340

>>23347770
This is just someone listing all the streams where he had no game BGM, not streams where he used hololive BGM, he might have done it but there's nothing that indicates it

>> No.23348405
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>>23346984
>>23347000
>>23347770
retard started deleting vods but i saved a clip
https://files.catbox.moe/bvm3ss.mp4

>> No.23348420

>>23348340
>not streams where he used hololive BGM
if you open those streams and read the description, he's crediting Towa and Okayu
I'm not gonna watch everything to see if he used them or not but that seems proof enough

>> No.23348503
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23348503

Nijis need to learn that spamming NUTHINBURGER COPE SEETHE COCK over every minor thing really doesn't help. It was an honest silly mistake and got cleaned up. Sometimes you gotta just take the L.

I only even found out about it cause you blew up /#/ and had a stupidly fast thread in the catalog.

>> No.23348561

>>23346984
>STREAM PRIVATED
>NEVER SAY SORRY

WHY NIJI EN LIKE THIS

>> No.23348586

>>23348503
Imagine using /#/ as your home thread

>> No.23348692

>>23347799
>nijiniggers harass fubuki and try to fuck her over by reporting her superchat streams en masse
>luca gets reported for actually stealing and using Okayu and Towa's copyrighted BGMs
>immediate nijinigger projecting and victim complex
like fucking clockwork, god i fucking hate nijiniggers

>> No.23348718

>>23348503
>he thinks nijis are the ones posting in these threads

>> No.23348736

>>23347770
>>23348340
While that might be true, he definitely used them in these streams
https://youtu.be/Ah7g_5jwpyo?t=10767
https://youtu.be/iCTXLVT7SdY?t=14576
https://youtu.be/Pj8RYDZvNBE?t=4876

>> No.23348764

>nijiEN doesn't care about holos they said
>kiara living in pomu's head rentfree before she was pomu
>the whole discord leak
>the alban incident
>this dude literally using okayu and towa's tracks despite having more than enough money to get himself one

tragic

>> No.23348768

>>23348420
>and okayu
doesnt he need permission form the guy that made the arrangement rather? also dont think okayu has said anything yet.

>> No.23348775

>>23348718
they definitely posted in >>23331437 and made a right mess of things

>> No.23348794

>>23348692
>copyrighted
They're not copyrighted, but if they're asking you not to use them, it's common courtesy to not do it.

>> No.23348800

>>23347811
The biggest problem is that they're the "second option" for ENs, and it shows. Petra used to be a Nijiclipper, but everyone else is in because they didn't make it into Hololive but wanted to get in on the Vtuber trend and/or get big corpo money.
The joke is that I can see many of them, especially the girls, quitting together to make their own company.

>> No.23348882

>>23348586
>/#/ as your home thread
lol nobody does that. That thread is just a crossroad where all the companies gather to discuss horse race and news
it lives so rent free in njijifags' heads that it's hilarious

>> No.23348918

Looks like the mafia boss is just a petty thief after all

>> No.23348961

>>23348882
spoken like a true brown skinned numberfag

>> No.23348989

>>23348961
keep seething over ghosts, girl

>> No.23349013

>>23347942
>>23348692
Since both interpreted it wrong, I'll clear it up: my post was an anti copyright post and how companies that get fucked because of it should know not to fuck others with it.
If Nijisanji did the same, fuck them too.

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23349068

>>23346984
Anon reposted it despite Towa covering for him after the fact saying it was okay
WOW
ITS FUCKING NOTHING

>> No.23349137

>>23349068
Retard
The stream got privated
Guess what?
Anon from 5ch found 3 more streams with Holo BGM

>> No.23349166

>>23349068
what about okayu

>> No.23349173

>>23348882
/#/ is the most unity thread in this board, it discuss everyone from the top corpo to even the 3-2 view.

>> No.23349177

>>23349068
Towa said it was okay but there's another BGM for okayu that is still unaccounted for

>> No.23349182

>>23348989
this
btw fulgur and finana and reimu and all of nijien are totally in this thread right now
in fact I'm five livers right now
I'm also posting in /#/ right now

>> No.23349199

>>23349068
where's your stream bro?

>> No.23349200
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23349200

>>23347811
I'm tired of making these myself so here, have a template, go wild.

>> No.23349211

>>23349068
>Stream privated
>Never got permision from Okayu
>ITS FUCKING NOTHING
Do nijiniggers really?

>> No.23349271
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23349271

>>23349068
JPs are certainly not happy with him

>> No.23349285

>>23349166
okayu is too chill to care, she'll just let the nijiniggers steal and get away with it

>> No.23349356

>>23348718
Going full kpop stan discord raid in the last thread proved they handled it very poorly. If left it'd probably been a 80 post thread which had spun off into arguing about china.

>> No.23349377

>>23349013
this is tribalfagging time you dumbfuck. you don't get out of this by claiming moral highground. fucking nijiniggers never had the integrity to admit their mistake

>> No.23349388

>>23347811
>comment sections getting closed to hide complaints
Do you want to tell me it was a deliberate action rather than YouTube's retardation that occasionally kicks in for random creators?

>> No.23349398

>>23349285
Okayu is probably the worst person to have stolen BGM from, while Towa is the best person.
Towa will bail out anyone from trouble, while Okayu has a ton of very devoted fans, and Okayu herself probably won't bother with the drama and it'll just fester.

>> No.23349456

>>23349388
> only happens to Pomu ch.
yeah sure, cope with it if you want

>> No.23349469

>>23349285
yeah but he would still need permission from the composer.

>> No.23349552

So Okayu is going for his throat huh. Poor guy. Even if they don't drag him to court, Holo is probably going to cut all ties with Niji from this.

>> No.23349563

>>23349398
Yeah, the onigiriya are seething all over 5ch and Luca's channel now.
>>23349469
That is true. Just makes me wonder why this retard didn't straight up just pay for some dude on fiverr to make his bgm. Even worse, one of his crazy fujo fans could easily come up with something for him for free.

>> No.23349588

>>23348800
I get being the “second option” for females, but for males? Never mind the fact that even half of these collabs probably wouldn’t happen to begin with if all of the males were Holostars.
Goddamn, it isn’t that hard to pretend Hololive doesn’t exist either.

>> No.23349604

>>23349552
It's not even Okayu. It's becaus his own retardation.
Don't drag Okayu into this

>> No.23349653

>>23349604
If Okayu made a comment, she could probably quell alot of the autism. But I don't think Okayu cares enough.

>> No.23349678

Just pay your homage and this will all go away. A little, ''''''Thanks Towa/Okayu for the BGM'''''' in the video description isn't hard, especially if they pay for it or if their fans specifically made those for their oshi's exclusive use.

>> No.23349680

>>23347799
What the fuck is this ass backwards logic from nijiniggers

>> No.23349686

>>23349604
Nah, she would've covered for him like Towa did if she didn't mind.

>> No.23349703

>>23349456
>invents a headcanon
>tells others to cope with it
what did the newfagretardchama mean by this?

>> No.23349760

>>23349686
That's too much work for lazy cat.
But I still blame this on Luca's retardation
He simply just have to put the holo members channel on the description, and he went to do it in the least amount of effort possible for the first time

>> No.23349775

>>23348503
we have dumb women in our fanbase, pls andarstand

>> No.23349777

>>23349653
>>23349686
>Take from others without permission.
WHY DIDN'T SHE CARE ABOUT HIM ENOUGH TO COVER FOR HIM?

>> No.23349824

>>23349456
Happens to Petra all the time, hell it's even happened to some Holos.

>> No.23349858

>>23349271
WOW JAPANESE FANS ARE VOCAL ABOUT THE NEW CHAPTER AND THEY ARE NOT HAPPY

>> No.23349883

>>23349760
>But I still blame this on Luca's retardation
Of course it's his fault. No one said it's Holo's fault. I just said Okayu wanting to fuck him up while Towa just want it to be over.

>> No.23349914

>>23349883
Or maybe she's not aware
Or is thinking of what to do. She just got out of a stream and those big streams usually have hours of prep beforehand

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>>23347799
NOOOOOOO HOLO
N I G G G E R can't accept it
babuuuuuu

>> No.23349937

>Mumei literally had random music playing from video games on during her Minecraft stream the other day
>it seemed like autoplay
>no one freaks over game music perms
I’m trying to compare this situation to vtubers I’ve watched but it seems like no one cares when non males do it.

>> No.23349976

>>23349937
Those are all from Audiostock that they fucking PAY for you fucking retard

>> No.23349986

So he's a fan of purple women?

>> No.23349988

>>23349678
That might not be as easy as you think anon. Some plausible rrats that have been spreading is that one of the reasons why NijiEn has been trying to not acknowledge Hololive as much as possible is due to their main market being the chinks. Still just a rrat but could explain why Kiara and Pomu have still been unable to Collab.

>> No.23350012

>>23349937
are you retarded?

>> No.23350016

>>23349937
Absolute retardation

>> No.23350076

>>23349678
>Okayu wanting to fuck him up
You really think Okayu even know Luca exists? You really think these fags are relevant enough for Okayu to care huh. Towa probably just responded to the issue because some fans brought it up and was like '''nah just let whoever it is''. Once Okayu took notice about this during her stream, her reaction would probably be just like Towa's.

>> No.23350097

>>23349883
>I just said Okayu wanting to fuck him up
What is this retardation? Okayu might not even aware of the existent of your fucking liver.

>> No.23350100

>>23348503
>It was an honest silly mistake and got cleaned up
In other words: a nothingburger
>>23348503
>cause you blew up /#/
Oh you mean the NijiEN anti general?

>> No.23350170

>>23350100
>cause you blew up /#/
>the NijiEN anti general
>>23348882

>> No.23350171

>>23349937
is the random music came from Niji or Niji fans??? NO, you dumbass. Majority of the EN use audiostock BGMs, just use a portion of your brain, please.

>> No.23350181

>>23350100
>Got privated
>3 more to go
"Nothingburger"

>> No.23350189

>>23349680
They steal copyrighted videogames every stream

>> No.23350210

>>23348794
Every IP has an automatic copyright when they are made. If you use something without explicit license it's automatically copyright infringement.

>> No.23350218

>>23349883
>Okayu wanting to fuck him up
You really think Okayu even know Luca exists? You really think these fags are relevant enough for Okayu to care huh. Towa probably just responded to the issue because some fans brought it up and was like '''nah just let whoever it is''. Once Okayu took notice about this during her stream, her reaction would probably be just like Towa's.

>> No.23350302

Has long has the nips dont find out out about the bots everything will be ok

>> No.23350325

>>23350076
Towa ego searching a lot and aware of the EN scene so she noticed it. Okayu on other hand lives in her own bubble barely aware of the EN scene and drama (which is the best way to go). Nijinigger now blame her for their problem not ending, fucking subhuman.

>> No.23350341

>>23349988
That rrat is dead, anon, since Pomu and Kiara wanted to collab even before Luxiem debuted, which we all know came Luxiem, came the chinks.

>> No.23350373

>>23350189
Why do you think permission autism is a thing? They are anal about getting licenses for every game they stream now.

>> No.23350400

>>23350373
Holo does, not Niji.

>> No.23350463

>>23350400
I'm talking about holo too though, maybe I misread what anon meant.

>> No.23350492

>>23349883
okayu doesn't even know about holoEN, let alone some male from another corpo lmao

>> No.23350498

Luca is dumbest fag in the scene, preaso andastan. He even tried to monetize his Elden Ring streams (FromSoft), which probably why NijiEN could not play the game anymore.

>> No.23350513

>>23350492
>okayu doesn't even know about holoEN,
She likes Gura and had a Gura clip playing in the back of a stream once by accident

>> No.23350530

>>23350492
Okayu wants to cheat on Korone with Gura

>> No.23350547

>>23350513
yeah, gura is the only one i'm aware that she knows as well but if you heard of vtubers you probably know about gura because she's THAT big.

>> No.23350589

>feels like an all out war
>steals copyrighted music
>steals pornos
>calls irl friend fucking ugly
Anyone can add to the list, I don't really follow Niji so don't know what other things they've done.

>> No.23350614

Imagine being such a faggot that you care about copyright.

>> No.23350630

>>23349883
And she has all right to do so, if anything he should beg for her permission and an extra lobotomy jus for the sake of it.

>> No.23350639

>>23350076
it's much more likey that she'll say that she doesn't mind it but in the end it falls on the composer

>> No.23350654

>>23350463
Holo is autistic about game and music permissions ever since apocalypses, lawful good quadrant of vtubers

>> No.23350658

>>23350302
They know about the bots.

>> No.23350670

>>23350492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQx3affprmQ

ok bro, do your reps

>> No.23350674

>>23350589
>steal pornos
what

>> No.23350677

>>23350614
No one does.
But getting caught in 4K will net you a place alongside Nippleman Lauren

>> No.23350687

>>23350498
Every time I hear of a NijiEN "yab" it's just some minor unprofessional carelessness I'd expect from a 2view indie but they are actually in big a corpo with managers who are supposed to brief them about this. What are their managers doing?

>> No.23350688

can someone QRD me on this?

>> No.23350693

>>23350492
Pretty sure you mean EN scene, of course she'll know about holoEN. Gura is the biggest loli and she's a huge lolicon

>> No.23350708

>>23350614
it affects their voids anon

>> No.23350726

>>23350670
>>23350693
i already addressed this here
>>23350547

>> No.23350765
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>>23348503
NIJICOEP LIST
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

>> No.23350791

>>23350639
yeah this... This is why I was kinda confused why Towa said that. The proper answer is to leave it to the original composer. If they paid for it (which they did not), then Towa and Okayu can allow whoever it is to use those bgms.

>> No.23350813

>>23350791
Towa commissioned it and paid for her BGM.

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23350823

UNDENIABLE FACTS LIST
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

>> No.23350846
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>> No.23350854

A "nothingburger" occurred and i was away for a few days and come back to yet another "nothingburger", what the actual fuck is wrong with NijiEN? I have seen more professional behavior by Nijiniggers in these threads.

>> No.23350857
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>literal nothing burger
Do holobronies really?

>> No.23350862

>>23350791
Towa just make the statement after it blows up
And Luca originally didn't even give credits to them
And he double down by just adding youtube shortlink instead of a proper credits

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>>23350823
>>23350857

>> No.23350902

>>23350639
i also don't think luca will be able to get permission from the guy due to it being special tailored to okayu

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so who will get the heat? luca or his manager?
just link the holo channel you dumb flip

>> No.23350920

Goddamn only 64 IPs? I expect better...

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>> No.23350943

>>23350639
If they commissioned the composer for it, they will own the exclusive licensing rights to it. None of the holo songs are "composed" by hololive yet they still own them.

>> No.23350955

>>23350920
us phillipinos are all going to bed :((((

>> No.23350956

>>23350813
oh that's why, I thought they're both fanmades.. Then the Luca fag is the dumbest ever, I thought he used it because he thought it was fanmade and might get away with it, but not if those were commissioned/paid. How dumb can he be?

>> No.23350957

>>23350589
>calls irl friend fucking ugly
what happened here?

>> No.23350959

>>23350920
+1
Don't mind me, just enjoying the mayhem

>> No.23350980

oh nyooo his career is over!!!

>> No.23350984

>>23350674
nipples

>> No.23351024

Why are the bronies so uppity? Every time their whores are doing unauthorized stuff they blame the people reporting and not the retards trying their luck, you want to have the high moral ground now?

>> No.23351028

>>23350862
>double down by just adding youtube shortlink instead of a proper credits
This happened??? I knew the original stream had no credits whatsoever, but the fag really think that by adding a mere link would allow him to use those paid BGMs anytime he wants without asking for perms? HAHAHA

>> No.23351050

>>23350862
See
>>23348736

He also used it on his other streams and is trying to add the links to the descriptions of those vids.

>> No.23351051

>>23351024
>unauthorized stuff
when

>> No.23351058

>>23350956
>used it because he thought it was fanmade
That's really generous, i doubt he even knew that the song was related to her at all and entrusted his stream playlist to the auto playlist that youtube occasionally create.

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>>23351024
seethe, tourist

>> No.23351087

>>23350589
>calls irl friend fucking ugly
Wait what? I can't keep up with all the nijiEN yabs

>> No.23351106

>>23351024
I get the distinct feeling that you were one of the retards trying to get FBK into shit or at least were willing to go along with it.

>> No.23351109

>>23351051
Like when they got blacklisted for playing games without permissions and to this day we still see bronies using it as proof of how evil the nijifans are for reporting their streams

>> No.23351120

>>23351024
>Steals stuff
>Get caught
>Sperg out
the nijinigger creed

>> No.23351127

>>23351058
That's what you can get away with doing as an indie but not when you are literally part of one of the two largest corpos.

>> No.23351132

>>23350956
He's an Australian man who doesn't know a lick of Japanese + is genuinely stupid. It's more his managers fault for not letting him know

>> No.23351135

>>23350920
I'm just lurking since right now there's no news from Okayu's side.
I'm hoping she doesn't touch on this and just lets it fester, would be more trouble that it's worth for her. her JP fans will do the work anyway

>> No.23351136

>>23350181
And? What will it happen after that? Nothing, in other words: a nothingburger!

>> No.23351143

>>23350957
>>23351087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH93uhnrZXU

>> No.23351145

>>23351106
>it's only ok when we do it

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>>23351028

>> No.23351154

>>23348586
I do, what about it? Nijiniggers baiting threads who use graphs from /#/ are the ones at fault, not us.

>> No.23351172

>>23350492
lmao the state of onigirya

>> No.23351183

>>23351109
>blacklisted
ogey

>> No.23351187
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23351187

doxxsite fags are full on defense mode - raid /vt/ HAHAHA

>> No.23351221

>>23351143
sorry to burst your bubble anon but this is how girl talk usually goes

>> No.23351267

>>23351135
>Okayu
Better ask the composer instead

>> No.23351268

>>23350687
Probably counting the money they’re making from Luxium.

>> No.23351270

>>23351187
>so obsessed you even check the dox site

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>>23351152
Imagine your oshi with this rules

>> No.23351312

>>23351221
Yes, behind closed doors, not caught in 4k

>> No.23351356

>>23351267
Okayu/Hololive commissioned it, they are the rights holders.

>> No.23351425

>>23346984
kek, nijinigggers can't stop losing and getting BTFO

>> No.23351435

>>23351270
found one hahaha

>> No.23351438

>>23346984
>privated stream
oh no
meanwhile there will be no punishments, towa started following him and soon they'll have sex

>> No.23351446
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INCOMING 3 STRIKE TO LUCA CHANNEL

>> No.23351454

>>23351152
I believe this triggered the nip copyright schizos more than playing the BGM by accident

>> No.23351463

>>23351425
you're a pathetic loser

>> No.23351475

>>23351109
>bronies
You are on the wrong board, girl
>>>/mlp/ is that way

>> No.23351487

>>23350302
They do already, /#/ anons even make fun sometimes of how actually close 5ch anons and /#/ anons behave, they even make fun of the nipple-looking graphs or the one where there was blatant botting on Millie's stream.

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>>23351143
I honestly thought this was another out-of-context overblown shit but she straight up called him ugly on stream, Jesus...
Every day I thank past me for dropping NijiEN after Ethyria debuted.

>> No.23351497

>>23351463
nijiseethe

>> No.23351503

>>23351187
>nothingburger
I'll ask everyone who posts this word to show tits from now on

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>>23351463

>> No.23351547

>>23351463
go back to fujochan or that doxxsite you fucking nijivagina

>> No.23351599

>>23350218
Towa knows the existence of every single Apex streamer and has a wall of monitors running all of their streams at once.

>> No.23351604

>>23351495
Someone in the comments said they mentioned the guy also called her ugly or something, but I'm not watching their full vid just to find that clip. Let the nippleniggers do their own work.

>> No.23351634

>>23350589
>calls irl friend fucking ugly
Why is this on the list? A months old clip about a story that happened before they joined nijien and all that happened was Enna cockblocking Millie
I know you guys are starved for drama but cmon

>> No.23351651

>>23351463
woman

>> No.23351661

>>23351604
>Let the nippleniggers do their own work.
Watch the "correction squad" dox him and meticulously explain why he is ugly.

>> No.23351766

>>23351143
3DPD
Idk if i should be happy now that the homos fucked them so hard.

>> No.23351794

>Drama
Meanwhile next luca's stream is in 11 hours
Wake me up when actual drama happen

>> No.23351813

>>23351766
I'm more upset at myself for expecting some level of professionalism from them. If I just have my expectations below the basement then they can't disappoint.

>> No.23351856

>>23351813
professionalism about what

>> No.23351862

>>23346984
Don't matter where you live, the SEA behavior stays. As expected of a dirty SEA larping as an anime fag.

>> No.23351878

>indog is a thief
Wow so crazy
anyways

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Death to all nijiniggers

>> No.23351955

>>23351856
exactly, have no clue what I was expecting

>> No.23352006

I thought Millie was kinda cute before
She sounds kinda ghetto though, and Enna sounds extremely ghetto
That's kinda a turnoff.

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And people wonder why HoloEN won't collab with NijiEN.

>> No.23352097

This whole ordeal has really raised my opinion of Towa but really lowered my opinion of Luca and Okayu

>> No.23352162

>>23352097
Towa is a good girl.

>> No.23352179

>>23352097
>lower opinion of Okayu
why? there's not much that allows her to intersect with EN chuubas, she probably doesn't actually care about any of it.

>> No.23352306

>>23352097
Okayu already explicitly forbade usage of her bgm when she released it, not much can be done there.

>> No.23352338

>>23352097
>Okayu
Why? Even if she was aware of the situation she is in her right not to allow anyone to use the BGM she commissioned, something that is mentioned on the description of said BGM

>> No.23352394

No apologies will ever comeout from these fags, this is why nijiniggers will never thrive, thank me yagoo.

>> No.23352471

>>23347451
Any clips regarding Towa's instructions?

>> No.23352475

>>23352097
Why would you think less of Okayu for something that Luca did?

>> No.23352491

>>23351463
tits or gtfo

>> No.23352550

>>23352471
There's no video
But when this incident blew up, Towa post a tweet that says you're free to use her BGM as long as you give proper credits

>> No.23352551

>>23347451
where's the Towa's tweet? I cannot see anything regarding this

>> No.23352557

>>23352471
She tweeted it
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1519921607820537862

>> No.23352601

>>23352551
Here >>23352557

>> No.23352713

>>23346984
Nipplekeks behaving like chnx who owns everything

>> No.23352792

>>23352097
>>23349883
Instead of being mad at the dumb mafia fag, some anons here really got mad that Okayu hasn't paid any attention to said fag, huh??? the state of nijibros

>> No.23352825

>>23352792
why do you think we call them nijiniggers?

>> No.23352950

Just my opinion but I think tracing picture to sell for profit is way worse than unknowingly using bgm that you're not supposed to use. (I mean, is he supposed to know that those specific 2 bgms aren't free when everything else is?) Just delete the archive and say sorry or whatever.

>> No.23352961

>>23352601
>>23352557
So instead of giving proper credits, after he used it throughout his streams without any permission or credits, he really just decided to just delete the entire VOD huh. Isn't that just disrespectful?

>> No.23352984

>>23352792
I REALLY dont like Mori but whenever I see this nipplenigger shit I think maybe she's not that bad

>> No.23352995

>>23352950
>deflecting
girl...

>> No.23352999

>>23352950
>unknowingly
roru
rumao

>> No.23353013

>>23352961
Not deleted, privated. presumably to give proper credits on every video he used holo BGM on

>> No.23353058

>>23352950
anon, the one apologizes for it, the other still hasn't

>> No.23353069

>>23352950
HUH, DID YOU SEE A FUCKING NIJINIGGER APOLOGIZE ON STREAM, NOT GONNA HAPPEN VAGINA, THEYRE ENTITLED AS FUCK AND ARROGANT TOO.

>> No.23353075

>>23352950
I'm still not seeing any apology tweet, so...
Yeah, get fucked thief

>> No.23353076

>>23352961
Luca has very low int due to SEA genes. Please understand.

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>>23351152
you can't see me right now, but my face just cringed into itself

>> No.23353093

>>23351058
As far as I can find, Towa's BGM is only on her channel.

>> No.23353135

>>23352097
>Why isn't Okayu allowing people she has never heard of use the BGM she asked people not to distribute?

>> No.23353148

>>23353093
There's a vtuber BGM playlist on YT

>> No.23353207

>>23353076
pagpag

>> No.23353213

>>23352950
Smells like hypocritical fujo in here.

>> No.23353215

>>23353058
>apologizes for it
Nene never apologized for tracing, she apologize for drawing it too similar as she liked that person's style so much.
>>23353093
Also on the composer's channel. All the BGM he used comes from that composer so the most reasonable assumption is he just picked one playlist with all his music.

>> No.23353261

>>23349013
copyright is good
fuck baggy people

>> No.23353273

>>23353215
>she apologized but wasn't a real apology
kys

>> No.23353280

>>23352950
One would think that niggers who deflect this much would get better at it eventually, but oh well.

>> No.23353310

>>23352097
>Okayu
nice try nijinigger-kun

>> No.23353338

>>23351356
Comission doesn't give you rights to it unless you pay for it and creator agrees to give the rights which is rare.

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>>23352950
Nipple deflection post

>> No.23353346

>>23353273
I'm sorry you feel that way.

>> No.23353365

>>23351599
Nah he knows about almost all relevant APEX streamers because they're on her discord server

>> No.23353411

>>23353215
Not on the composers channel. He has a section titled 'works' on his youtube home page that has Towa and Okayu's uploads of it.

>> No.23353412

>All these deflection after get caught with your dirty laundry

GET
FUCKED

>> No.23353420

>>23353213
lmao, you're a pathetic loser

>> No.23353434

Why did he only private one and not all of them?

>> No.23353439

>>23353215
If you really think that using a playlist in youFUCKINGtube in your live streams is okay, then I don't know what else to say to you and your oshi. Even Gura úses audiostock for her BGMs, and she's not the smartest of people

>> No.23353460

and that's why everyone hates holobronies

>> No.23353478

>>23353420
you're a woman

>> No.23353483

>more people check his other VOD to find Towa and Okayu's bgm
I think this is what he wanted

>> No.23353489

Mass-reporting his channel right now, hopefully he’ll get banned.

>> No.23353490

Kek, this is funny is shit, the bane of NijiEN is just some random anon in 4chan.

FUCKING LMAO

>> No.23353518

>>23353478
and you're a incel, LOL

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>>23353420
>pathetic loser
are you the same person who keeps repeating this insult?

>> No.23353566

>>23353338
Commission obviously implies payment and rights contract here anon. She didn't just ask the composer to make something for free.
Do you think the artists all have the rights to their live2ds too?

>> No.23353573

>Fujowhores comes out in flock to defend their thief boss

You'd love to see it

>> No.23353579

>>23353148
So he loaded up a random bgm playlist and didn't even look what was in the playlist?

>> No.23353588

>>23353439
You reading comprehension anon.
I never say it's proper, I just said it's quite possible that this is the reason he would use Towa and Okayu's bgm.
>your oshi
Not Luca anyway

>> No.23353593

>>23353434
Most likely, there is a completely different reason for it. I didn't watch the stream, but Luca likes to tell a lot of personal stories on his streams (to the point people IRL have identified him as Luca). Of course, nobody gives a shit to get to the reason shit happens. They just wanma fling shit.

>> No.23353602

>>23353528
it's a SEAnig, they think insults that hurt them will hurts humans

>> No.23353611

>>23346984
>deleted stream
*yawn*

>> No.23353616

Please destroy nijien, I'm tired of anycolor neglecting JP in favor or EN just because fujo money.

>> No.23353629

>>23353420
It's amusing that you people show up to complain here when your favorite piece of shit fucks up, yet if it was a Holo that did this you'd be spamming YT with reports. Fuck off.

>> No.23353634

> first reply on the 5ch thread
> 誰

>> No.23353643

>>23353579
Yes, he's that dumb I think. Even dumber than Gura

>> No.23353656

>>23352961
It went like this -
> Luca using holo copyrighted songs for a LONG time, no one realized because the audience overlap of NijiEN homos and Hologirls is close to zero.
> NijiENfags shilled Luca enough that some holofag finally watched the recent stream and recognized the BGM, posted it /here/ (or on 5ch, idk which came first).
> Towa (and presumably Okayu) bombarded with messages about this, one of two JP anti comments on his stream.
> Towa gives permission (as long as he links the BGM and Title), Okayu is silent (the composer has explicitly forbidden use outside of Okayu's channel, so Luca does not have permission as of now).
> Some of the JP holofans asked for context under Towa's tweet and in 5ch, and figured out what happened. 1 or 2 more anti comments on his stream.
> Luca just links a Youtube short link without title under "BGM" section.
> JOPs see this and blast his comment section with >>23349271 (and far more blunt stuff).
> Luca changes it to the correct format, but he STILL does not have Okayu's song permission and JOPs keep pointing that out in the comments, increasingly irate.
> Finally, stream privated.

>> No.23353661

who gives a shit about background music, what the fuck

>> No.23353670

>>23346984
So, is this shit going somewhere? Or its another usual "GOT CHU NIJINIGGER" thing? i'm fucking ready to take down homonigger if this become big

>> No.23353695

>>23353338
Rare in private commissions maybe, but almost all of Cover's assets are freelance contractor work and I can assure you they contractually got all the rights to them

>> No.23353712

>>23353420
>>23353528
Imagine calling people losers while having an episode on this website of all places. What is self-awareness?

>> No.23353732

>>23353670
Retard nijinigger, read the threads

>> No.23353733

why does Luxiem makes holobronies seethe so much?

>> No.23353742

another forced yab by holoniggers

>> No.23353751

>>23353661
why fujocrap so fucking retarded yo

>> No.23353754

>>23350920
There's no point when half the threads look like this:>>23350927
Here's your extra IP though, Niji keeps taking L after L. Back to Holo streams.

>> No.23353757

>>23346984
All these shambles

>> No.23353774

I don't get fujos. They have a dox site, and they already see what Luca looks like IRL, yet they kept on defending him? Is this what sunk cost fallacy looks like?

>> No.23353776

>>23353460
tell me why please

>> No.23353800

>>23353661
>People should only care about things I care about. Let my SEA daddy steal.

>> No.23353805

>>23353661
>who gives a shit
then dont use it

>> No.23353820

>>23353643
How does he manage to run a stream?

>> No.23353846

>>23353742
>holoniggers
https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/text/holonigger%2A/

>> No.23353852

>>23353820
>"Manage"
That's what a manager for

>> No.23353869

>>23352950
tits or gtfo

>> No.23353889

>>23353656
>Luca changes it to the correct format
any screenshot of this???

>> No.23353903

>>23353518
better than being a woman

>> No.23353905

>unironically defending nijiniggers
you can't make this shit up

>> No.23353939

>unironically being a holobrony
you cant make this shit up

>> No.23353946

>>23353889
I know there's a screenshot somewhere
But I can confirm that he changed it to proper format before being privated

>> No.23353956

>>23349271
>bonkura who cannot even write the title even though Towa allowed unauthorize use
BASED NIP!!! What's bonkura anyway?

>> No.23353989

Luca defense force shows up rather than admit to themselves he fucked up.

>> No.23353996

>>23353956
bankrupt

>> No.23354000

theres a reason why holowhores arent allowed to stream metal gear

>> No.23354035
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>>23353889
I took one just before it got privated

>> No.23354044

do holobronies really?

>> No.23354058

reminder this is nothing relevant and it's just discordniggers, SEAs and holocels trying to force another yab

>> No.23354062

Niji's Defense force and Luca's ugly chink army working overtime

Good work, maybe Luca would praise you

>> No.23354064

>>23353989
Nijiniggers will never admit guilt and will try to throw it under the bus

>> No.23354088

>>23354044
Do desperate fujos really?

>> No.23354097

>>23354000
Because Konami is petty and has a stake in nijisanji and not hololive?

>> No.23354102

*Sniff*
Oh yeah, that's a nice smell of deflection

>> No.23354133

thats because nijis are chads and never apologize when theyre right. Fulgar was right, hana was right, and luca is right

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>>23354044
>>23354058

>> No.23354152

Some music to go along with all this seethe and deflection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i862D67TFc

>> No.23354153

this thread feels like roleplay thread

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>>23353956
retard, apparently.
they don't know how right they are lmao

>> No.23354191

THE STENCH OF DOXXSITE FUJOS IS LINGERING

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>>23353889
>>23354035
And THIS is what triggered the anons from 5ch. He corrected that afterwards then proceeded to private the stream after he saw several JPs complaining in the comment section.

>> No.23354266

>>23346984
Nothing will happen

>> No.23354298

give me the 5ch thread

>> No.23354342

>>23354146
Don't use my oshi to shitpost about this garbage

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>>23354342

>> No.23354372

>>23354191
no really, why do they use the doxxsite as a discussion board?

>> No.23354383

I do wonder just how many fuckups NijiEN can do before they land in actual hot water.
They're basically acting as Twitchfags on Youtube, zero care about permissions, DMCA or whatever the fuck, just Steam 24x7 or else you won't be seen (like it is on Twitch).

Minor fuckups are supposed to be lessons learned for small companies. Hololive has gone through yabs of company-ending size (holocaust --> Taiwan --> Coco graduation --> Rushia termination etc.) but NijiEN is still fucking up smaller things with zero care in learning from their mistakes or not doing it again.

Which is why you get retarded replies like >>23354058 because they have yet to experience an actual 炎上. They aren't even relevant outside of China, yet they're dragging their parent company name through the mud in western countries and now Japan as well.

How long before they do something that just can't be defended anymore? Would fujos still call it a nothingburger?

>> No.23354395

>>23354298
Search it by yourself n the archives, Fujotard, I certainly won't spoon-feed you, you're not on *reddit.
>Inb4 "muh no proof no evidence"
Retard.

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DMCA him okayu, I'll kneel

>> No.23354414

>>23354372
unironically, that's nijiEN's main camp

>> No.23354431

>>23353889
You can see it on his other vids. But he still does not have Okayu's permission

https://youtu.be/Ah7g_5jwpyo
https://youtu.be/iCTXLVT7SdY
https://youtu.be/ATpodcBNaIA

>> No.23354436

>>23354266
Honestly, what Will happen? Give me your Prediction anon! I think he will be spammed in the next stream and apologize afterward

>> No.23354445

>>23354395
So you admit you made it up

>> No.23354476

>>23354298
https://eagle.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livejupiter/1651206495

>> No.23354483

>>23354097
very plausible rrat

>> No.23354489

>>23354445
You are the one who makes up the fact that it's all just a nothingburger. Just you wait, don't come to complain to us afterwards.

>> No.23354503

>>23354436
They won't apologize, remember that their main audience are chinks. They can't let them see them bow or apologize to any holos

>> No.23354521

>>23354372
because they get laughed out of every other respectable place that the doxxsite is the only place left where they can gather, mostly because nobody's there in the first palce

>> No.23354528

>>23354383
I say let them do increasingly more and more retarded shit, their fans would defend a live streamed suicide and sperg out whenever someone call it out.

>> No.23354589

>>23354445
pathetic

>> No.23354663

>>23354503
Then its Will be the start of literally all out war kek, jap vs chink again, but first of all, do these fag even know their audience hate holo?? Cus i hear some of the flag is a holofan themeself

>> No.23354674

>>23354383
Should I sell my anykara shares now? or Buy the dip?

>> No.23354692

>>23354528
while that would be good for tribalfags, I don't really want people's careers to end over stuff like this.
But then again, I can't really stop them from being continuously retarded either, so whatever they do will catch up to them I guess.
Maybe I should start actively hating NijiEN instead of just being neutral, since then at least I'll have fun watching their careers' slow motion trainwreck instead of just feeling pity.

>> No.23354742

>>23354674
save for memento

>> No.23354754

>>23354674
Right now they seem to be a hot stock, wait for their next yab, and buy the dip.
Be careful doing this though, as any Niji yab has a 1% chance of being their final yab (especially if it's JP and involving either the company itself, Mito or Kuzuha).
Don't bother about NijiEN yabs, worst comes to worst they'll just cut them off like NijiIN and continue focusing on other markets.

>> No.23354880

>>23354692
I don't think that's worthwhile really, the constant fuck ups makes it more of a spectacle that is far more entertaining than any of their streams without any input from any anon.

>> No.23354920

>"People" chimpout over a fucking bgm

I fucking hate SEAniggers so much its unreal

>> No.23354934

>>23354880
we need that yugi-oh meme back pre-nipple yab

>> No.23354970

>>23354920
> steal shit
> get caught
> sperg out

the nijinigger creed

>> No.23355061

>>23354483
It's literally the truth.
I stopped playing yugioh because konami is a piece of shit, even thought yugioh was the last remaining decent thing they have going for them.

>> No.23355101

>>23354934
I have no idea how to play that, but to me it looks like NijiEN is filling their hand with resource cards daily.

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>>23354431
oh my god this guy hahahahahahahaha

>> No.23355175

>>23354064
You do not know what that expression means

>> No.23355188

>>23355101
I think it ended with niggerEN discord leak, while holo just remained clean after that.

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>>23354431
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATpodcBNaIA
Jesus Christ what's wrong with his fanbase?

>> No.23355254

>>23355193
Fujos are mentally ill, what did you expect?

>> No.23355268

>>23355193
That reads like messages from a crazy ex, what has he ever lied to her about or is doxxshit?

>> No.23355572

Fuck Towa for ending this conflict before it could even start

>> No.23355620

>>23355572
The conflict is still ongoing though, and Towa is now the only one coming out of it looking good.
Truly devilish...

>> No.23355633

>>23355572
>Ending
Holy cope

>> No.23355683

>>23355572
Nah, towa played the fag in her palm. She knows the fag cannot follow simple instructions and wah lah, 5ch mobilized

>> No.23355762

>>23347799
You niggers started it

>> No.23355790

>>23355193
Reading this then looking at Luca who is an actual drooling retard is kinda funny

>> No.23355822

>>23355572
>ending
He is mentally unable to comprehend permissions as seen when he has added Okayu even though she hasn't said a word yet.

>> No.23355865

Remember, Towa would not want you to pile on him

>> No.23355871

>>23355620
>Towa is now the only one coming out of it looking good.
Retard.

>> No.23355873

>>23355572
She simply signaled the raid by making the issue more known and made the JOP schizos to scrutinize all over Luca's archives

>> No.23355921

>>23355871
Retard

>> No.23355961

>>23355871
Literally everyone is praising Towa though

>> No.23355992

>>23355865
I don't give a fuck what that apex whore says

>> No.23356010

>>23355822
From the leaks wasn't he one of the people that hates hololive? It's just some passive aggressive bullshit he's throwing at hololive for the lulz to him.

>> No.23356064

>>23356010
Luca wasn’t even in the leak.

>> No.23356090

>>23355992
why are you mad at towa

>> No.23356143

Why is it so hard to Apologize? Why are Luca's fans defending him from an obvious wrongdoing?

>> No.23356173

>>23355268
i honestly think the fujo is delusional

>> No.23356174

>>23356143
most them are new to vtubers and have no idea about shit

>> No.23356178

>>23356143
because nijichinks are corporate bootlickers in a way that puts even holofags to shame

>> No.23356196

>>23346984
I fail to see how this is such a big deal... I know some of you pirate anime, moves, games, and shit like that all the time with 0 remorse, but using copyrighted music a few times is what crosses the line? I understand miniscule shit like this being a big deal with nips but to think westerners would be this petty is surprising. Then again most of you tribalfags are SEAvermirn anyway so I can understand somewhat

>> No.23356208

>>23346984
> Stealing nipple porn
> Stealing handbag design
> Stealing BGMs
> Won't even acknowledge nor apologize for it.

Nice IPO company you got there.

>> No.23356213

>>23356143
the chinese don't believe in apologies

>> No.23356227

>>23355921
>>23355961
Okayu did nothing wrong, Nijifags.

>> No.23356233

>>23356173
there's a lot of delusional fujos that came with luxiem sadly

>> No.23356232

>>23356196
there's a difference between pirating something and getting caught in 4k doing it, sister

>> No.23356248

>>23356196
>Getting caught in 4K
Enjouy your nippleman treatment

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>>23356143

>> No.23356285

>>23356143
sense of entitlement and being egocentric, after gaining a large audience of paypigs

>> No.23356336

>>23356232
Oh no, he got caught pirating! The only consequence is.. being used as tribalfag fuel for retards on a meaningless image board? The horror...

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>>23356336

>> No.23356369

>>23356336
Oh yeah, tell that to Lauren. Oh, don't tell me you're a newfag?

>> No.23356387

>>23356196
They're both illegal, but it's far easier to find and punish the idiot who broke the law in front of thousands while getting thicc superchats for it.

>> No.23356391

>>23356336
>The only consequence is
... kek

>> No.23356397

>>23356196
Is this bait? What were you thinking before posting this? Do you really think that copyright is a fucking myth? And what's worse is you using some illegal shit to make money?

>> No.23356398

>>23356143
They're newfags unironically. They just came with Luxiem. Just by reading through this thread, commissioned BGMs are nothing to them and everyone can use them freely

>> No.23356400

>>23356213
>CCP
>our BGM

>> No.23356470

>>23356213
Apologizing means losing face which is the worst thing that can happen to you.

>> No.23356516

>>23356336
If Towa is half the man Sega/Squarenix was back in 2020, she'd just copystrike his ass 2 times and ask for a dogeza in Japan or else, she'll delete his channel forever

>> No.23356574

>>23356516
But Towa isn't a man, he's a boy...

>> No.23356577

>>23356213
>don't believe in apologies
seething hard until cover apologize over Taiwan

>> No.23356623

>>23356143
>wrongdoing
I refuse to believe 4chan fell so badly that people are defending copyright. This site was founded with illegal downloading anime as it's core and we have /t/ to this day as a main board.
I hope someone copyright breathing, so that all copyright defenders die or pay millions to live.

>> No.23356673

>>23356623
oh I'm sorry your nijinipples aren't allowed to get away with stealing shit, but that's not going to fly here

>> No.23356694

>>23356623
>vtubers are 4chans
lol, the fuck this post even mean

>> No.23356823

>>23356623
I don't care if my fellow 4chan faggot pirates something. If some big corpo streamer who gets free money for playing games then he better have his licenses in order.

>> No.23356853

>>23356623
I already told you, you are free to pirate anything
But when you got caught in 4K, you're gonna have a bad time

>> No.23356906

>>23356623
a corpo getting btfo is funny actually

>> No.23356928

>>23356623
if you get caught then anons laugh at you, thats how i remember it

>> No.23356993

>>23356673
>>23356694
>>23356823
>>23356853
>>23356906
>>23356928
An official apology and 3-day suspension while editing all the VODs back would've been a suitable punishment, yet this guy is gonna stream again in 12 hours lmao

Talk about professionalism, nijiEN doesn't have any of it

>> No.23357012

>>23356623
Are you from the outside, we literally unite to bring down these bane of humanity called nijiniggers™

>> No.23357074

>>23356993
don't bother, if things escalate then its their own demise which is actually very good.

>> No.23357304

Towa is addressing the issue.

>> No.23357378

>>23357304
we dont deserve towa

>> No.23357414

>>23357378
Nobody deserves to be inflicted with Towa. Stinky devil.

>> No.23357444

>>23357304
Professional

>> No.23357483

>>23357304
She said it's fine and she's happy when someone sang her song

But yeah, Luca is retarded af

>> No.23357548

>>23357304
>"Don't worry,I'm happy when people sing my songs"
>threw a shitfit when IRyS (from her own company) covers her song on debut
I don't like Towa

>> No.23357556

>>23357483
It's fine only if he links it, but if this yabe didn't happen, he'll just continue using songs without crediting it to people and earning money from it

>> No.23357563

>>23357304
Live TL from AshExia:
>4:34:43 [en] Just talking about, that people can use her BGMs, as long as you follow the guidelines. Also taht Hololive can use their music and such. If there something a problem, she'll tell you
>4:34:58 [en] Don't worry about it basically, she's happy when people sing her song and such.
>4:35:14 [en] So don't worry about me, I'll handle it and such.

>>23357483
>sang

>> No.23357566

>>23357304
>Towa
she's wasting time and energy here. Just copyright the VODs. You don't see any effort from the culprit, why is she the one doing all the explaining

>> No.23357578

>>23356143
Because China.
Even if you get caught stealing, they tend to just yell at whoever caught them : https://youtu.be/5qW4Vmlf5Eo?t=217

>> No.23357592

>>23357548
>>threw a shitfit when IRyS (from her own company) covers her song on debut
where the hell did this rrat come from

>> No.23357591

>>23355496
>>23355496
>>23355496
migrate to the new thread when you're ready

>> No.23357608

>>23357563
sorry, my ESL is incurable

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>>23356623
> 4chan piracy
Good, we even have pirate restreams.
> Piracy in front of a fucking camera, while being one of the faces of a Japanese corporation.
Bad, there's a reason we post shit /here/ and not in places where our names can be attached to it.

Remember Artemis, and what happened to him after people found out he was watching the holofes restream?
Don't shit where you eat, and don't pretend to be "le oldfag" when you have zero idea how this site works, cunt.

>> No.23357690

>>23357608
No, the eigo is fine. It's just that Luca isn't singing it (afaik); he's just playing it in the background.

>> No.23357748

>>23356336
> they forgot Nippleman already
rumao

>> No.23357791

>>23357592
source next thread

>> No.23357802

>>23357592
Don't even bother giving him (you), he doesnt watch streams. Towa said explicitly said she's happy with anyone covering her song, but she thinks a cover of her song is a rendition of their own, she has zero obligation to promote it because they can stand on its own. Also Japanese social autism when it comes to socializing with a totally new member of a team.
If the poster proceeds to talk about Towa hates being compared, she did compliment Moona covering Palette.

>> No.23357831

>>23357074
True, been waiting for nijiEN manager to finally work and not just sucking the boys money, Professional work ethic is what nijiEN need right now (SRS wtf is wrong with /nijiEN/, one time i Express my Disappointed to the fox guy because he not being Professional and bunch faggot start to make fun of me, It's a bit sad to see a generals who used to criticize NijiEN liver if they made a mistake, turn into an elitist frick who doesn't want to bow their heads even though they know their vtuber is in the wrong)

>> No.23357842

>>23357802
Towa-sama...

>> No.23357857

>>23357566
She's just too big unityfag. She's willing to protect and help people that she doesn't know. TMT is more than just a joke. She's too altruistic.

>> No.23357892

>>23357687
>newfag pretending to be an oldfag again

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>>23357892

>> No.23358349

>>23356623
>revealing your powerlevel
That has never been something favorable, you fucking retard.

>> No.23358443

>>23357566
>why is she the one doing all the explaining
Because living through a lot of drama, shitposts and anti since debut, and your paycheck is being paid in non-yen does that to Towa. All her friends got harrassed a lot through hearsay and chanboard dogpiling, and wouldn't want to see others go through the same ordeal.
She wouldn't want to see other vtubers suffer like she did.

>> No.23358473

>>23358443
even if it is well deserved.
Towa is really a tenshi.

>> No.23358651

>>23354234
Man reading those rules made me die a little inside.

>> No.23358736

>>23356623
It's not about piracy, but hypocrisy. I expect perfect behavior regarding copyright from Nijisanji because they completely altered the legal and social norms surrounding corporate vtubers when they sought Nintendo permissions back in 2020. They should lie in the bed they've made.

>> No.23358984

>>23351187
at least now nijiEN will stop the stupid idea of using public bgm playlists

Selen literally had one slip where the playlist started playing Linkin park - In the end
and a Shingeki no Kyojin OST song was next on the list

Luca getting suspended is better than my oshi receiving a strike if the BGM changes to a copyrighted on during a toilet break

>> No.23359201

>>23358984
>Believing that would make them stop.
Anon. NijiEN management might as well be just a bunch of mannequins.

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