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>> No.23301992
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Hololive sites

Nijisanji sites


Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>34,950: Miko (Hololive)
>30,537: ChroNoiR (Nijisanji)
>20,888: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,524: Kanata (Hololive)
>17,475: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16,814: Polka (Hololive)
>15,699: Hal (Neo Porte)
>15,569: Flare (Hololive)
>14,532: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>14,460: Watame (Hololive)
>13,935: Flare (Hololive)
>13,862: Korone (Hololive)
>11,770: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>11,615: Botan (Hololive)
>11,477: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>11,115: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,187: Ina (Hololive)
>10,007: Koyori (Hololive)

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/#/ is inclining.

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Miko gold, Miko thread.
Simple as.

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1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,846 - Okakoro 3rd anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,536 - APEX custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,384 - VSaikyo landmark lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,242 - 3D birthday live
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,497 - Eating sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,317 - 3rd anniversary totsumachi
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,190 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,055 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,307 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,335 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,955 - APEX custom
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,512 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,692 - 3rd anniversary totsumachi
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,595 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,639 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,426 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 166,003 - APEX VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,756 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,559 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,332 - Shiraken collab
21) Kanata (Hololive) - 49,428 - Return stream
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 82,099 - 3D birthday live
23) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,934 - Valorant tournament watchalong
24) Mikeneko (Indie) - 61,589 - L2D model reveal
25) Polka (Hololive) - 34,858 - Totsumachi
26) Choco (Hololive) - 40,040 - Subaru king collab
27) Marine (Hololive) - 118,698 - 3D live
28) Miko (Hololive) - 34,950 - Uma Musume gacha

22x: Hololive
3x: Neo Porte
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
3x: Hal
2x: Kanata, Kuzuha, Miko, Okayu
1x: Calli, Choco, Korone, Marine, Mikeneko, Polka, Subaru

>> No.23302099

two medals for niji, wow

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>> No.23302141

Kronii streamed to 35k at 4am jst on her post debut stream, she should've taken that timeslot for herself rather than stream at night at her time, stealing Irys's timeslot. Then there's Baelz who wanted to go for primetime rather than the Rushia timeslot. It was overall stupid of them, there should be rules not to overlap any of the bigwigs but Gura is too nice for that.

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2022 GOLDS
84x: Hololive
25x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

15x: Aqua, Pekora
10x: Kuzuha
7: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Miko
4x: Suisei
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Kanata, Marine, Okayu, Toya
2x: Ange, Flare, Korone, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chloe, Chronoir, Fuwa, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nene, Nijisanji, Roboco, Rushia, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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>What are medians looking like for this month in the paralympics
pic related

1) Gura at the top
2) Mumei, Ina and Calli over 10k
3) Vox not grown up enough for 10k
4) Mysta, Kronii, Fauna, Amelia and Irys complete the top 10
5) Nobody below 1k

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>I'm back
>Streamed with Millie a day ago
>A stream 2 days ago
Back from what? What's with that shitty as thumbnail bait.

Also, the main problem was this. Mika was just a bonus. What the fuck is with that backside 3D. Did they roll out the 3D too early? It looks so unpolished for a company who just went IPO. This is why I don't trust the company with my money ever.

>> No.23302308

Indogs have no shame. Treat them as such

>> No.23302370

Oh hey, Selen finally overtook Sana

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Heimin please do your reps

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>> No.23302445

Sana did 1 stream where she went under 2k so she fucked up.

Honestly, this girl makes me mad sometimes. She could always stand while streaming, and take sitting breaks every 5 minutes while doing a 1-2 hour stream 6 times a week. But she doesn't.

>> No.23302488

You are being nigh unreasonable.

>> No.23302531

>Alban at 5k
He inclined the fuck out just with MC spam. Meanwhile HoloEN....

>> No.23302539

I still love you Reimu. I can only give one advice that I feel would make you incline.

>Find a way to Collab with Any Holomembers
That's it. Don't trust your branchmates.

>> No.23302571

The fuck do you mean "Meanwhile HoloEN"
Top 10 is all HoloEN. 3 of them are council. 4 of them are Myth.

>> No.23302620

*Is almost all

>> No.23302633

probably that holoen should be playing more MC because it's easy numbers

>> No.23302695

HoloEN spamming Minecraft everyday would spell doom for NijiEN golds.

>> No.23302731

>Sana did 1 stream where she went under 2k so she fucked up
One single stream can’t impact the median. Half the streams must be under that number

>> No.23302815

They're all autistic. Mumei is trying but it's not enough. It's like, they would play if other people would play but because other people aren't actively playing it they don't even want to attempt which goes back into the loop. At least Mumei and Fauna are playing it today

>> No.23302828

Ah, peace

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P&L figures for nijisanji
Further detail on pg 106 - total staff salaries for 2021, is about 3.5 million USD (466,079,000 JPY). Likely just salaried staff (managers, tardwranglers, legal, AP, AR, HR) not including any chuuba earnings which would make more sense to count in the COGS figure.

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>> No.23302954

Damn Kiara passed Bae, did not see that coming just a couple of months ago.

>> No.23302986

INA is probably the only go in HoloEN that should be an example. Even the NijiENs avoid her timeslot.

>Streams 4-6 times a week + members
>Schedules ahead
>One doodling(strong content)+one zatsu(mild+needed)
>Focus on 1-2 games at a time
>Games with proper storylines like Elden ring
>Finishes the game in the week itself depending on the game length
>Offers karaoke once a month
>Collabs with JPs and IDs once a month
>Delivers promises on time
Now I get why Takodachis are faithful and now, Fauna is following her steps. I hope she does complete AC till it finishes.

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Looks like the boys are reclining despite all the celebration buffs.

>> No.23303058

Fauna definitely does not finish games lmao.

>> No.23303070

Er these days $1 is more like 130 yen

>> No.23303081

I don't get what's so hard finding content in Minecraft for the girls. Just take any example from the let's players over the years or just go on a hunt for warden or something and make a new trap from the new item.

>> No.23303187

I feel like just setting up a "regular hour" and consistently streaming there is more than enough to get a 10k average, just look at Ina and Peko for example.
Might just be that EN is still treating this as "just for fun" and they might start to hate it if it becomes a "job" with deadlines, timelines and shit.

>> No.23303211

Terraria late game or Stardew late game would've been nice but sadly these girls doesnt deliver. Only Ina does. I don't like how some of them play Elden without starting baby steps and play the first demon souls. I played DS2 and has a rite of passage now for never passing a map in 12 hours.

>> No.23303248

Stardew is currently in permissions hell because of the publisher change IIRC. Not sure what happened to Terraria but I guess no one else wants to play it at this point

>> No.23303283

It's a fucking awful song. I will listen to Wonder Ladder twice in a row instead.

>> No.23303293

What happened? Thought concerned Ape was both dev and publisher?

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Since we're talking about scheduling and all, these two are certified retards already in my book. Who the fuck wants to watch that long ass game? Portal 2 is a much better game for coop.

>> No.23303367

Ina did not finish Half Life 2 did she? That was the reason I unsubbed and stopped watching her (same with Ame and Witcher 3).

>> No.23303390

We kept telling nijis that the boys are going through their Myth redhot period. Unlike Myth though, unless Susan smites them for botting, I doubt they'll lose half their viewers since there won't be a 2020 cull.

>> No.23303401

She finished Half Life 2. She has essentially ghost dropped Black mesa though. Same with Paper Mario, Rice loli (good), and lobcorp

>> No.23303424

Stardew Valley was published by Chucklefish, but later on Concerned Ape left Chucklefish. I don't know if it's in permissions hell though

>> No.23303430

She already finished the game. That's her best game series that spawned the bonk meme for her.

>> No.23303467

'It Takes Two' only works if the chemistry between the two girls is so good that the game acts as an excuse for them to interact with each other.

>> No.23303505

Most Niji models always reminded me of MMD models.

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whose channel? i checked mumei and fauna nobody streamed mc today

>> No.23303643

Playing, not played. It'll be on Mumei's channel. Fauna's going to do her convenience store stream, read some supers, then head over to Mumei's

>> No.23303693

I want miComet It Takes Two now...

>> No.23303856

I'd rather invite zeta for an offcollab at my house where it ends with her passing out in my bed. That's how a great bond is formed rather than playing that game for hours. Even clubhouse51 is a much better game than that.

>> No.23303875

Nah he managed to get the publishing rights back but it wasn't until very recently, like a month ago that it was finally settled.

>> No.23303955

Oh yeah, if there's some FFX14 players in Holos, why aren't they making a party Collab instead of doing solo runs? It's boring watching solo or are they too underleveled?

>> No.23303968

Holo perms incoming?

>> No.23303992

There's no real "playing together" in MSQ, my man.

>> No.23304017

Because they're retarded

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So, predictions for this year Haiku stream? Lower/Higher than last year's?


>> No.23304276

MSQ is not multiplayer friendly outside of dungeons, trials and raids. Every other time it's mostly spent just traveling together and not getting much done beyond talking to each other, but that might ruin the experience if you're new to the game since it's so heavily story driven.

>> No.23304354

I'm new, I meant that they should collabs in difficult dgns, raids and stuff like a party. Isn't that what MMORPGs are? You grind loot in those dgns.

>> No.23304371

>Oh hey, Selen finally overtook Sana
And it's a clean overtake too (so far), Selen had a 3k ceiling that she didn't break for the longest time.

The "3k cliff" is still there, if you notice there is almost a 1k gap between Sana and Pomu, but Selen powered through it and inclined to where she is now

>> No.23304449

Stuff like dungeons and raids are end game and they're gated behind a story as well. Every raid tier and every alliance raid are gated behind some level of story so it's still the same issue.

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I'd expect around 40k, but if she gets 50k+ I would consider that as final proof of Miosha incline.

>> No.23304487

I'd argue she only plays buff games and hides shit games/watchalongs behind members

>> No.23304523

I would say 60K thanks to Golden Week buff, but it's Friday so I don't know

>> No.23304540

They've really grown compared to 2020
I wonder how Cover's financials look like in a side by side comparison

>> No.23304547

Damn, I hate the rule where they can't play their old accounts but instead, play in a new one when they stream. I want to see Ina's jaded account and her collabing with Iroha on her jaded account.

>> No.23304558

Higher, because number rabbit.

>> No.23304789

That's because she's not dumb. Whoever would endure her playing shit games and watchalongs are likely her members anyway so it's win win to put it behind her member wall

>> No.23304808

Damn, that 2020 line up was really good for numbers. Migo, Sui, Marine, Ayame (Rare), Rushia.. that would get really close to a 100k nowadays considering Holo growth

>> No.23304866

Rushia haikus were killer too, more or less her breakout as the yandere menhera she ended becoming typecast as

>> No.23304921

I'm pretty sure if Coco and Rushia turned up in a Hololive stream today we'd see well over 100k

>> No.23304946

I know is more than day away but what kind of numbers do you think Kobo's karaoke will get

>> No.23305009

do the indog facebook normie crowd particularly care about karaoke?

>> No.23305350
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Mizuchi has 8 viewers, our hag will make it

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>> No.23305380

Any expectations for Asakoyo w/ AZKi as guest?

>> No.23305388

The only ones in HoloEN who have "regular hours" are Kiara, Ina, Gura, and IRyS. Not coincidently they also have super stable viewership aside from when IRyS gets killed in collabs. Her solo streams do very solid numbers though. Notice I said stable! Kiara obviously doesn't get big numbers but her core KFP show up when she streams.

Fauna is approaching regular hours but she still jumps around a bit at times.

>> No.23305392

literally who ?

>> No.23305405
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Don't know how to break it to you but you are literally the only person here who cares about her.

>> No.23305415

Luca Kaneshiros groomer

>> No.23305459

45 to 50k. No Coco debuff

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I expect 8k viewers, AZKi and Koyo talking about something relatively lewd and myself cooming from AZKi's sexy voice

>> No.23305507

Eh 12-15k. Azki is neutral, not a buff.

>> No.23305545

yep, seems to be the strategy to go for.

It's probably mizuchi herself doing some latenight shilling or Luca

>> No.23305572

How would she post in here while playing deep rock galactic

>> No.23305601

I wonder if any of the new ENs will aim for one of the current "dead slots".
Honestly it would be a big gamble to spend your debut buff on a potentially weak timezone, but who knows, maybe being consistent for a week will get you an actual EU audience.

>> No.23305610

its luca then

>> No.23305611

A lot of her current jumps lately could be attributed to her collabing with indos, and now, JPs. Though I would admit the Jump King was weird, though it was kind of a good thing she moved so Ina could get as much views as she could in Opus instead of getting eaten by Fauna midway.

>> No.23305622

Anon... I don't know how to break it to you but... phones exist

>> No.23305625

>Mio lewds tomorrow
Lets fucking go!

>> No.23305638

>Azki is neutral, not a buff.
>Predicts higher numbers than usual

>> No.23305665

I'm not sure the EU audience actually exists. Kiara and Ina are getting Asian and NA audiences I think. Ina has been consistent and engaging and especially early on heavily used her art buff to build her slot. Kiara suffers heavily in her timeslot and when she creeps later and with NA friendly games gets much better numbers.

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I got my stock ready

>> No.23305715

Im guessing the JK stream was because of some other engagement for her earlier in the day. Seems to be the only solo stream she have done so late in a long time.

>> No.23305724
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There is no EU audience, germans, french and spaniards are drooling retards that do not understand english. EU time zone in more like a nordic audience + england and ireland

>> No.23305728

>/#/ in charge of counting

>> No.23305829

Just those 4 alone provide the perfect all day HoloEN experience. Kiara into Ina into Gura into IRyS to cap off the night. I'd argue Bae should take JP hours since her big Korean fanbase can more easily watch her. Fauna can take the Ina timeslot when Ina doesn't stream. Mumei takes the Gura prime time slot when Gura doesn't stream. Then Kronii takes the late night IRyS slot when IRyS isn't around.
Mori jumps around too much but she does well in JP time so maybe pair her up with Bae

Bae/Mori into Kiara into Ina/Fauna into Gura/Mumei into IRyS/Kronii. This leaves the super late night/early morning NA hours open for Mumei's guerilla karaoke streams or whenever the hell Amelia wants to stream. As for Sana? I got nothing.

>> No.23305908

I fucking wish Ina would move back to her 4pm est timeslot

>> No.23305920

mikorone and gurame it takes two really skewed people's expectations for this game

>> No.23305931

Sombre merde je te pisse à la raie sale bâtard, sans la langue française vous ne seriez rien au final https://www.noslangues-ourlanguages.gc.ca/en/blogue-blog/influences-du-francais-ways-french-influenced-eng
Though I have to agree I know no other french that is as invested in Vtuber as me, all of the french forums barely talk about this kind of streamer.

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bong here so checks out i guess

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>Only Choco is live

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Ol' reliable

>> No.23306008

For being Europes weeb country I really dont understand why you have zero presence in the vtubing scene. I mean we swedes have a vtuber in nijisanji
swede here

>> No.23306013

The "EU" audience is just early first and 3rd shift workers, neets, and students from NA with a small handful of actual Euros, SEA, and Australians.

>> No.23306015

No HoloEN for another 2 hours. Myth is literally not streaming today, Fauna is starting in her regular time, Mumei is probably starting around 9pm~ or whenever the fuck her dog lets her, and then Bae playing ???? after that.

>> No.23306116

Animal has way too much power over Hololive. That dog is approaching the levels of Mio's cat in power level.

>> No.23306185

>I'm not sure the EU audience actually exists
Well that's why it's risky to try that.
Tried and true method would be to stream close to West Coast times since that seems to have the most open slots.

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is Choco, by chance, not hololive?

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>> No.23306374

There's nothing ESL about his post. Though he should've capitalized his "I".

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> shill yourself everywhere you can think of
> get about 10 new subs daily
> shill yourself /here/
> +190
Most influential board...

>> No.23306425

The original post does not imply that Choco is not hololive. Therefore >>23306273 is an ESL retard

>> No.23306452

His point was that there was a Hololive live, so the post was retarded, and it is. Should wait for pure dead hours for a post like that.

>> No.23306465

Ars hit 7k on 5am Minecraft which is the most I remember her getting for a long time, happy for her

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>> No.23306542

Lots of the girls flirting back with late night Minecraft, like Ema from VSPO

>> No.23306549

learn how to identify sarcasm, kid

>> No.23306579

Anon, his point is that in spite of being such a large group, there is only one person actually committing to to a stream. He may be retarded, but you're being autistic, which isn't much better.

>> No.23306584

No I wont. I have autism and thats why I am here, what is your excuse for being here

>> No.23306699

Surely the JP girl who was apologizing after getting harassed by anons in her own thread lmao, check the archives. We talked about her in this very thread yesterday, she gained around 200 subs over two days.

>> No.23306701

Much better than what she was getting for Genshin.

>> No.23306799

Will Gura 3D debut manage to beat Selfish of a Rough Stone in terms of CCV?

>> No.23306853

Not if it's at 4 am Pacific time like Mori's Bday concert was.

>> No.23306878

Fuck no, EN is heavily culled, it would be during a horrible time for JP and Gura is not even half the singer that Suisei is

>> No.23307118

It'll beat her VOD count but not CCV

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It's dead as fuck so I'll just say I find this interesting. Fauna must be getting a LOT of repeat views of her ASMR if she's close closing the gap between her and both Bae/Mumei despite both having around 3m in music video views, especially when both are past her in subs and she doesn't really get new subs unless she streams that day. Granted, Mumei would probably be far past them both if her karaokes weren't unarchived.

It's also interesting that people seem to still be watching Sana's vods 4 days after her last one.

>> No.23307190

Kiara a poussé quelques viewers français à demander à la JE d'inviter Hololive, mais apparement ça n'a rien donné

>> No.23307256

I will also say this really puts into perspective how much less Sana have streamed than all the other.

>> No.23307292

HoloEN timeslot issue:
Primetime EU 6PM GMT/ 11AM PST/1PM EST
>Only Kiara can stream normally around this time, NA sleep schedules are wrecked by management--too early for them to wake up and stream at this slot
>no one in EN has any pull on EU audience
>few fucking donation from EU audience even for Kiara in this slot

Night to Late night EU 9PM GMT/2PM PST/5PM EST
>Ina monopolizes time slot to the point that every overlap gets bad numbers
>because of monopoly issue, no one can sub when Ina doesn't stream
>again EU audiences issues

>Fauna/Ame slot
>no problem on slot occupation
>sometimes Gura invades this slot
>numbers tank if Ina goes overtime

Primetime NA 1AM GMT/6PM PST/8PM EST
>Gura monopolizes this slot to the point that every overlap gets bad numbers
>most people avoid this slot due to reason above, hence no one to sub when Gura doesn't stream

Night to Late Night NA 2AM GMT/7PM PST/9PM EST
>Mumei/Kronii/Mori/Irys take this slot
>somehow it becomes empty sometimes wtf
>overlapping with Gura affect numbers

Super Late NA 4PM GMT/9PM PST/12PM EST
>only NEETs can watch

>> No.23307373

No vtuber has any pull on the EU audience because it does not exist

>> No.23307392

I think the Ina slot just sucks, she just used her debut buff and buff streams (Drawing) as well as being super consistent to build it up. If she weren't there I don’t other people could just jump in.

>> No.23307418
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Faunas' Asmr does really well for her and make up most of her most viewed content, with most of them having broken 500k & one having 1 million.

>> No.23307573

this is anti numbers shark, she will ensure she doesn't break 100k

>> No.23307908

>1) 28,711: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>2) 40,046: Flare (Hololive) Bday Totsumachi
>3) 41,660: Marine (Hololive) Chat
>4) 30,517: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) FIFA 22
>5) 40,720: Gura (Hololive) Unarchived Karaoke
>6) 47,573: Subaru (Hololive) Minecraft
>7) 31,050: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>8) 31,199: Suzuya Aki (Nijisanji) 3D reveal
>9) 28,980: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) New outfit reveal
>10) 32,757: Subaru (Hololive) FF7 Remake
>11) 40,178: Pekora (Hololive) Cooking stream
>12) 36,464: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX scrims
>13) 38,117: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX scrims
>14) 59,160: Vox (Nijisanji) Unarchived Karaoke
>15) 32,049: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX scrims
>16) 52,114: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX scrims
>17) 119,105: Aqua (Hololive) APEX VSaikyou S4 Tournament
>18) 32,776: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Bday
>19) 19,075: Uki (Nijisanji) Unarchived Karaoke
>20) 37,789: Lauren (Nijisanji) Nipple Apology
>21) 40,135: Watame (Hololive) 3D Janken Totsu
>22) 18,979: Pekora (Hololive) Elden Ring
>23) 29,010: Pekora (Hololive) Nyanko Daisensou
>24) 45,935: Marine (Hololive) Important Announcement
>25) 29,996: Pekora (Hololive) Nyanko Daisensou
>26) 35,266: Hal (Neo Porte) Recruited by TSM
>27) 49,601: Pekora (Hololive) Grandblue Fantasy
>28) 30,537: ChroNoiR (Nijisanji) ________?

Please help IDK what tf chronoir channel doing No, I refuse to watch streams. Past threads said something about an outfit reveal but when I searched on youtube all that came up were clips from months back. WTF nijiclippers...

12x: Nijisanji
13x: Hololive
3x: Neo Porte

6x: Kuzuha
5x: Pekora
3x: Hal
2x: Subaru, Marine
1x: Flare, Gura, Aqua, Watame, Suzuya Aki, Vox, Fuwa, Uki, Lauren, ChroNoiR

>> No.23307917

Like 900k of for Sana is her debut alone. Everything is 315k or less. A little less than half of her vods are sub 100k. Honestly it's kind of shocking she even has 10m views.

>> No.23307987

Thanks to the anon who did this. Didn't see it real time since I had a meeting but I do wanna provide a counterpoint to some of these
>Purely indonesian
I'd say this is actually a strength. The issue with being an ESL is that if you have a noticeable accent or if your voice isn't pleasant to listen to than it doesn't matter if you speak fluent as fuck english. You'll never be able to tap into the main english audience. It's the main problem that most of the nijiEN ESL girls like Millie, Enna and Reimu keep running into. Kobo speaking Indo most of the time along with her drowning herself in the local meme market basically gives a bigger audience than say Zeta who has barely any noticelable accent and has a really damn good voice.
>Most identical popular chuuba (chuuba that they're being compared to must at least have >5k median
I'd say she's more Gura than Pekora. From her childlike mannerisms to her extensive knowledge of local in-jokes.
I agree with the rest of your analysis. I'm probably overestimating her here but I feel like her absolute top ceiling is somewhere between 7-10k CCV and that's only if the ID market continues to grow and Kobo contines to improve and fulfills her potential. AnalysisAnon, if you're still here, I'd be interested in what you think about the other 2 ID's, specifically Kaela since I stopped watching her after the first week.

>> No.23308094
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>1) 25,993: Lamy (Hololive) The closing shift
>2) 39,276: Gura (Hololive) Myth 3D Twister
>3) 38,197: Towa (Hololive) Karaoke
>4) 27,719: Pekora (Hololive) There is no game
>5) 30,288: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX collab
>6) 42,536: Pekora (Hololive) Minecraft
>7) 24,885: Kanae (Nijisanji) Mario Party Collab
>8) 28,742: Pekora (Hololive) Vampire Survivors
>9) 25,670: Subaru (Hololive) FFVII Crisis Core FINALE
>10) 31,501: Shion (Hololive) Singing til 1 million
>11) 37,222: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>12) 25,370: Pekora (Hololive) Elden Ring
>13) 37,464: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX VSaikyou S4
>14) 39,712: AZKi (Hololive) Gyaku-totsu
>15) 28,351: Pekora (Hololive) Elden Ring
>16) 37,926: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX scrims
>17) 86,616: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX VSaikyou S4 Tournament
>18) 32,623: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX VS4 Lookback
>19) 18,427: Noel (Hololive) Elden Ring
>20) 28,401: Subaru (Hololive) Marshmallow Q&A
>21) 37,528: Pekora (Hololive) Granblue Fantasy
>22) 18,878: Gura (Hololive) Food Review
>23) 25,249: Subaru (Hololive) FREE TALK
>24) 41,426: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Valorant
>25) 26,894: Suisei (Hololive) miComet Raft
>26) 26,752: Toya (Nijisanji) Ao Oni
>27) 31,857: Iroha (Hololive) IroShuba Collab Marshmallow
>28) 20,888: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) PowerPro

Nice digits, KING. *clap clap clap*

18x: Hololive
8x: Nijisanji
2x: Neo Porte

7x: Pekora
5x: Kuzuha
3x: Subaru
2x: Gura, Hal
1x: Lamy, Towa, Shion, AZKi, Noel, Kanae, Suisei, Touya, Iroha

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Fuck you, i like it a hell of a lot. It's a great song in this style.

It is a week old song though, full numbers:
https://youtu.be/WJQveddc_Q4 - 96k
https://youtu.be/SFVZRPwFlWY - 58k
https://youtu.be/T7TJmNX_gvo - 4k
https://open.spotify.com/track/5H0Q353fTBiDVAGTq9MhTA?si=a90a9e06c5ac492f - 15k

>> No.23308328

Something about a zatsu into a outfit reveal from what i could gather from the thread. I was honestly more invested in watching the worm nipple that was developing on the graph.

>> No.23308453
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It was new outfit for them, yeah. The ones on pic related.

You can put 'Chronoir outfit reveal + announcement'
The announcement is that on May they will have a special program every monday

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kek, matome is keeping an eye in this thread like the good lads here keep on theirs
>The chart's shape is being called a nipple on 4ch.
They're referring to >>23288937, and the implication is that the streams are crossing

おい、日本人、帰 ろてめぇ!!

>> No.23308538
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And it’s not even the first time, and it’s always this thread too

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- 28 April
> 17,797 : Ine (KR Isegye Idol) ( 16,597 non-raid)
> 12,797 : Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol) ( 11,757 non-raid)
> 10,544 : Astraea_ (KR Indy) ( 126 non-raid)
> 9,209 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 9,178 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 8,892 : Shoto (EN Indy)
> 8,064 : Nyanya (KR Indy)
> 7,042 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 6,979 : Silvervale (EN VShojo) ( 3,385 double raid)
> 6,787 : ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)
> 6,085 : Mysta Rias (EN Nijisanji)
> 5,753 : kson (JP Indy)
> 5,428 : Chihiro (JP Nijisanji)
> 5,284 : stal (EN Indy)
> 5,212 : Miabyte (EN Indy)
> 5,022 : Shylily (EN Indy)
> 4,901 : Kanae (JP Nijisanji)
> 4,862 : zrush (CN Indy)
> 4,846 : Nimu (SP Indy)
> 4,635 : stal (EN Indy)
> 4,276 : Rainhoe (EN Indy) ( Subathon day peak )
> 3,895 : Nimu (SP Indy) ( Subathon day peak )
> 3,588 : KSPKSP (CN Indy)
> 2,919 : BuffPup (EN Indy) ( 2,040 non-raid)
> 2,874 : maoruya (KR Indy)
> 2,835 : SelenTatsuki (EN Nijisanji)
> 2,641 : Filian (EN Indy) ( 2,068 non-raid)
> 2,423 : nihmune (EN Indy)
> 2,408 : Saruei (EN Indy)
> 2,361 : SelenTatsuki (EN Nijisanji)
> 2,327 : Yanhua (CN FahonLive) ( 651 non-raid)
> 2,284 : Yuzu (EN Indy) ( 1,399 non-raid)
> 2,192 : Ikumi (EN Indy)
> 2,138 : Jack (KR Indy)
> 2,135 : OkCode (EN Indy) ( 1,872 non-raid)
> 2,121 : MurderCrumpet (EN Indy)
> 2,088 : Anny (EN Indy)
> 2,039 : NinaKosaka (EN Nijisanji) ( 1,483 non-raid)
> 1,973 : Nachoneko (JP Indy)

A lot of stuff happening today.

Spoilers that Ine will guaranteed win the month now.
She's the top actual Vtuber on Twitch this month by almost all metrics, apart from Watch hours (still Ironmouse) and Followers - Koreans are just as bad at subbing as the Japanese.
A hell of a lot of top streamers kept audiences busy with multi/long and overlapping streams, Ironmouse included. This left a lot of 2k regulars just below the cutoff.
Nachoneko doesn't hit 2k for the first time in the 3 months since her explosion on Twitch.
Hell of a lot of Nijis streamed on Twitch, Mysta continues to live there with 9 streams so far in 2 weeks.

At least 2 more Vtubers, Nyanya and Astraea_ - both Korean - got featured on the main page and went from 3 views to ~10k. They only got 50 new followers each so, not very useful long term.

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>> No.23308918

50k ccv with 1m vod the moment the stream ends

>> No.23308963

>got featured on the main page and went from 3 views to ~10k.
How does this work, it’s random or twitch hidden hand pick and choose?

>> No.23308987
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The only japs who come all the way to here are the mentally ill schizos or attention whores (usually both).

>> No.23309196

Hell if i know.
Yesterday caught Miabyte actually announcing that they'll be a twitch ambassador and saw the spike from 50 viewers to 17k but i never saw the home page.
Caught the tail end of the 2 today, there might have been more, but i can at least say that there were more than 1000 people typing in chat, so it wasn't botted to that point, just featured.

>> No.23309261
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1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,846 - Okakoro 3rd anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,536 - APEX custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,384 - VSaikyo landmark lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,242 - 3D birthday live
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,497 - Eating sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,317 - 3rd anniversary totsumachi
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,190 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,055 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,307 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,335 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,955 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,692 - 3rd anniversary totsumachi
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,595 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,639 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,426 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 166,003 - APEX VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,756 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,559 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,332 - Shiraken collab
21) Kanata (Hololive) - 49,428 - Return stream
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 82,099 - 3D birthday live
23) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,934 - Valorant tournament watchalong
24) Mikeneko (Indie) - 61,589 - L2D model reveal
25) Polka (Hololive) - 34,858 - Totsumachi
26) Choco (Hololive) - 40,040 - Subaru king collab
27) Marine (Hololive) - 118,698 - 3D live
28) Miko (Hololive) - 34,950 - Umamusume

22x: Hololive
4x: Neo Porte
1x: Indie
1x: Nijisanji

6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
4x: Hal
1x: Kanata, Miko, Okayu
1x: Calli, Choco, Korone, Kuzuha, Marine, Mikeneko, Polka, Subaru

>> No.23309286

>Indogs have no shame
And yet she's the only ID vtuber who does the shameful things recently. She's becoming the typical white dicks hunter, have no shame in becoming a whore.
She's just getting closer to become a full blown EN vtuber, glad that she's not officially a part of the ID scene anymore.

>> No.23309391

Threadly reminder to filter 36,464

>> No.23309620
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I saw some people rating English small corpos and for some reason y'all had Kawaii as last or second to last. You all clearly have no idea.

>> No.23309661
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I'm glad she got the gold, but can you guys please stop posting lewds of my little sister?

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>> No.23309782

It’s more or less a consensus, specially now that anycolor disclosed their financials for this year, that donations are a fraction of revenue brought by (for instance) merch.

Doesn’t make this number you posted less remarkable but donations alone can’t float a company up

>> No.23309823
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nice reverse psychology but you could've just asked for more

>> No.23309868

surely he’s not laundering his money with this scheme

>> No.23309946

Never saw those.
By our CCV ranking, wouldn't Kawaii be towards the top?
Because Shiki > Nene > Miori > Lumy usually?

Anyway, best ranking i can think of personally is how many i regularly follow
Prism (6)
Kawaii (4)
Tsunderia (3)
CyberLive (3)
Phase Connect (2)

>> No.23310056

your sister and her girlfriend need some guidance in their life

>> No.23310068

Do you have a link to a summary or whatever for that, sorry for begging but I really don't feel like navigating through the shitstorm that happened when it dropped to find it
Also comparing Anycolor/Cover to small EN corpos is less apples and oranges and more like apples and elephants, iirc one of their managers straight up said most of their money comes from SCs

>> No.23310148
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>miko not slipping

>> No.23310345

When Chronoir can't beat an Uma Musume stream you know NIji is fucked

>> No.23310480

Yagoo... please... if you build it the whales will come, from EU or MENA or fucking South Africa if that's what it takes... I just want holos for my timeslot...

>> No.23310554

She slipped her title of "Slip Queen". Now Kuzuha proved he's one true slip royalty.

>> No.23310560


>> No.23310568

Kiara is out for a few more days, EU hours are truly dead.

>> No.23310650

You have Kiara anon.

>> No.23310676


>> No.23311025

I will find you and slap you.

>> No.23311120
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Don't worry anon, someday I'll try to join Hololive as a frog eater whining about his own country 80% of the time and will simp to my Oshi on stream every single day until I filter all of the tourists that would eventually come to my streams.

>> No.23311126

Mika realized the NTR Horny GFE attracts more viewers.

>> No.23311277

>Koyori just slowly climbing
seems that azki isn't a buff at all

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5k space for Kronii

>> No.23311425

Those front page streams going from 3 view to 10k but only getting 50 followers is a good demonstration of how, in certain circumstances, a lot of twitch 'viewers' aren't actually viewing or interacting with the platform and the streamers.

>> No.23311466

Much stronger competition than usual with Kronii space and Fauna horror stream

>> No.23311475

Do you need a twitter account to join?

>> No.23311501

No more comparing numbers
Laplus has spoken

>> No.23311552

are they literally forbidden from streaming when with the coof?

Some of the most remarkable streams by Haachama (during the schizo arc), and some of Risu in 2020 were just them typing and once in a while talking.

>> No.23311563

This is the anti thread.

>> No.23311571

All you have to do is go to the Fextralife and park yourself in chat and compare the chat speed in that channel to its viewers compared to a normal channel with those viewers to see how easy Twitch viewership can be gamed.

>> No.23311747
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Sorry chuuni cunny, not sorry

>> No.23311762

Kronii is an actual bitch because she had all fucking day to do it but waits until everyone starts streaming

>> No.23311799

it's fine if you keep around here. comparing them on stream chat is just yikes tho

>> No.23311918

Didn’t she complaining and showing off her subs during her debut buff?

>> No.23312031
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>gambatte wifi kun

>> No.23312057

I just watch JP, don't see any need for the EU streamers.

>> No.23312119

They don't stream during the dead zone, hence it is a dead zone.

>> No.23312175

that's different from what she talked about on the clip. also pretty sure she posted about YT culling subs and remind people to sub again

>> No.23312265

Both HoloX and Council got mindbroken by their culls and don't care about numbers anymore.

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>implying JP doesnt stream EU primetime

>> No.23312288

>2 - Nanashi Mumei - 18 streams - 11606
>10 - IRyS - 18 streams - 7480

>> No.23312344

Irys is actually an underperformer and also keeps doing massive collabs where no one gives a shit about her POV

>> No.23312462

Because Mumei is a top tier EN and IRyS is mid-lowmid tier

>> No.23312514

one is a EN, the other is a vsinger

>> No.23312520

I came home and Korone had 6 hours VOD, that's more than enough for me.

>> No.23312528

Model debuff for IRyS and Mumei varies her content with more buff and creative streams

>> No.23312605


>> No.23312621

Her model filtered tourists

>> No.23312638

She's indistinguishable from a Council member at this point

>> No.23312683

Koyori keeping Gura's image for almost 10 mins, that's an illegal strat

>> No.23312695

It's really sad that Bae is like this.

>> No.23312726
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So how the fuck did Sony Music Inc. pay Anycolor 3.3 billion yen this year in sales? Do they run all their merch through Sony? Are 80% of their merch sales actually music sales?

>> No.23312748

IRyS Jp collab pov's
May such cases.

>> No.23312753

holo koshien soon
4 teams 10 players per team

>> No.23312774

still doesn't have as much of a box push as being part of a gen, having a model debuff doesn't help either.

>> No.23312781

Sana streaming Kirby. AGAIN.
Mumei starting at 10:30pm (probably 11pm) so more than enough time for Fauna to even read superchats and finish up her stream to go into Mumei's MC

>> No.23312889


>> No.23312950

Without having all the #holocouncil tags and all. Also gura still doesn’t have her on her “channels” tab on YT.

>> No.23313023

The vsinger girl

>> No.23313045
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>Sana streaming Kirby. AGAIN.
She gave up, didn’t she? I genuinely think, without any hint of hyperbole, that she’s sabotaging her channel.

I wouldn’t be able to provide the reason or even speculate it but there is no other explanation. It goes beyond not caring

>> No.23313103

She is really autistic about Nintendo games, same with only streaming pokemon for 50 hours in a row when her back wasn't fucked.

>> No.23313123

Slverboi... your back...

>> No.23313223

Huh? I can see her in Gura’s channel though.

>> No.23313264

I wonder when Cover’s financial report comes out. Costs like $70 to get the report.

>> No.23313272

After a couple of days working on it I have a complete list of what I believe to be every stream in 2021 that would've been/was awarded gold by this thread. It became easy in early July when Liveranking began collecting data but everything before that is cobbled together from Holostats, Playboard and whatever old VNUMA screenshots I could find poring through the archives. Current rules used were applied, ie. streams starting at midnight count for the next day and whoever had the highest peak available from any reliable source was declared the winner. I'm not going to claim the data for the first half of the year is 100% accurate but I do believe it's as accurate as possible with what information we have today. To save you guys from an enormous text dump I put the records of each day into a Pastebin
and here is the overall summary
249x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
9x: Indie
2x: Merise
1x: 774inc., Kamitsubaki, VSPO

69x: Pekora
30x: Kuzuha
28x: Marine
27x: Nijisanji
13x: Gura, Subaru
12x: Coco
10x: Hal
9x: Miko
7x: Aqua
6x: Ayame, Korone, Mio
5x: Chloe, Noel, Rushia
4x: Fubuki, Hololive, Kanata, Nene, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Botan, Flare, Haachama, Ibrahim, Kanae, Lamy, Okayu, Shion, Watame
2x: Calli, Fuwa, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Leos, Luna, Sora, Towa, Toya, Yashiro
1x: Aiba, Aizono, Amamiya, ChroNoiR, Emma, Fumi, Furen, Gaku, Gibara, Gwelu, Haneru, Haruka, Himawari, Iroha, IRyS, Kaede, KAF, Kagami, Kanda, Laplus, Levi, Lize, Lui, Luis, Lulu, Maimoto, Mashiro, Matsukai, Mayuzumi, Mel, Melissa, Mito, Naraka, Noraneko, Polka, Ren, Rindou, Riri, Roboco, Sasaki, Tomoe, Ui

>> No.23313330

She could put the #holoCouncil tags on her videos. It looks like her video tags weren't updated at all after her debut

>> No.23313382

Silver King....

>> No.23313394

Wonder if she has ever been called Nintentoddler on /v/.

>> No.23313415

>28x: Marine
>27x: Nijisanji
that's funny

>> No.23313487

Health issues aside if EN actually had managers someone would be trying to get Sana to diversify her content again.

>> No.23313527

Kuzuha carried hard.

>> No.23313550

They do. But the managers aren't overbearing like people seem to think they are

>> No.23313574

Hololive managers are whatever would paint them in the worst light in any given situation.

>> No.23313582

Music CD sales, yeah.

>> No.23313586

She’s a professional entertainer with all the tools necessary to figure out if she’s succeeding at her task.
One of those tools is the recurring audience. If it is smaller when you do X in relation to ANYTHING ELSE, it’s clearly failing at producing the desired result.

I’m not kidding about the “sabotaging”, one day in the future, long after she is no longer in this business, she’ll give an interview

>streamer? Haha, yeah, I did that a long time ago.
>I was not really into it, I took upon myself to do the absolute minimum to make sure the audience wouldn’t grown too much haha.
>I preferred it that way, easy job, no pressure, show up whenever, play some vidya, even then I found out ways to not do it hahaha
>then my contract came up and they didn’t renew it. Mission accomplished!

>> No.23313616

I wonder if Suisei already got all her golds this year. Also, Pekora with more than double golds than the second place is funny

>> No.23313615
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It was so close to making into tally...

>> No.23313623

>easy in early July when Liveranking began collecting data
live-ranking archives goes that back?

>> No.23313637

Gave up is a strong word... But yeah, it looks like she stopped trying to fish for numbers and is just streaming what she wants for her core audience.
It's not the worst route to take at least, she'll be more honest with herself and just do whatever like Aki and Anya do.

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Based Kuzuha The true KING, kneel to his majesty.

>> No.23313685

oh my bad she was added to the "feature" tag, but isnt on her Subscriptions.
>Kiara only has myth on both

>> No.23313707

We already have an interview like that.
"Tsukomo Sana and the value of taking it easy" by Crunchyroll

>> No.23313737

No fucking way, she's one of the members tha has inclined the most this last half year. She will win gold all karaoke she makes (if there isn't any other buff stream) and if it is unarchived she'll win it anyway.
And any decent collab hosted in her channel (Shiraken, Micomet without a trash game or any other high tier member) will probably get gold too

>> No.23313773

>7 gold for Aqua in 2021
>6 gold just this month.

>> No.23313855
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shoto in fauner chat
breeding rrats

>> No.23313884

use this two to compare vnuma dailies and niji numbers.

niji numbers


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>> No.23313919

Literally who?

>> No.23313923

it just bumped it around 1k like the other guests, however asakoyo is super close to start breaking 9k on its own, so i'm expecting the solo 10k in a few months

>> No.23313934
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vox pet

>> No.23314050

Wait, isn't that one of the biggest EN male indies? Figures.

>> No.23314066

vox in her chat when?

>> No.23314086

Fucking leeches

>> No.23314085

YFW Shoto end up being one of the EN Stars

>> No.23314091
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>and just do whatever like Aki and Anya do.
Anon, both Aki and Anya number problems aren’t
> just streaming what she wants for her core audience.
Aki in particular: she sings, she dances marvelously, she has several original songs with absurdly well produced MVs which she paid from her own pocket, she just thrown a 3D live that’s one of the best Hololive ones this year.
She does drinking streams, dancing lesson streams, gaming streams, karaoke streams, in branch collabs, off branch collabs, ASMR, FOTM games and obscure games and she’s good at them too.

There is ZERO parallel between Aki and Sana.
Sana is just lazy and / or unmotivated, if she did half of what Aki does her branch would carry her into a 7k median easily.

>> No.23314092

I love how they always post in chat with their vtuber avatar. Like do you expect her to respond to you

>> No.23314123

I doubt that flaming homo has much audience crossover with Fauna.

>> No.23314136

They’re attention whores. Like Shylily constantly posting in Mori’s chat and she doesn’t acknowledge her.

>> No.23314144

Voxx's cock sleeve

>> No.23314185

works on gura if you're jp chuuba and send at least a pink

>> No.23314186

>69x Pekora

>> No.23314196

powerpro is a debuff... holobros...

>> No.23314201

isn't sana injured?

>> No.23314207

>Trying to wash himself of all the gay shit he does with vox by watching super feminine Fauna.
Or is he actually gay? anyone watch him hahaha?

>> No.23314236

could be gay with mommy issues

>> No.23314237

yep. and there's actually quite a lot of fujos that think shoto is from niji with how much he collabs with vox...

>> No.23314343

i will be surprised if it gets good numbers honestly. let's see if all powerpro tourists are with niji or there's some for holo too

>> No.23314396

Anon, she has 8 streams this month, with the 9th on the way. Each of those (except the first) were over one hour, most two hours, that’s the usual time for a live stream of any of the other girls.

Whatever she could half ass (like she did) she could have done correctly, there is zero excuses for her right now and no precedent either.

>> No.23314438

For the type of corporation Cover is, they are required under the Companies Act to approve financial statements 3 months after fiscal year end and subsequently publish a condensed balance sheet in newspapers or EDINET through the FSA (Cover has always chosen online).
And last year it only cost me 500 yen.

>> No.23314511

Didn't Vox post a vegetable ranking on twitter after Fauna posted her schedule last time?

>> No.23314566

>Costs like $70 to get the report.
Where? You can pay less than $10 to get it online (legally at that).

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Number queen... I KNEEL!

>> No.23314675
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"If I had a nickel for every time Lize won gold with Ghenshin, I'd have two nickels - which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened once a year".

>> No.23314705

No 10k for Fauna. Kind of sad.

>> No.23314771

Anon, he is THE biggest EN indy. He's at 8k average when the rest are struggling to clear 5k.

>> No.23314831

>twitch funny numbers

>> No.23314898

you expected 10k?

>> No.23314935

It's an older chillas game that everyone's seen. She's also having some weird fucking jaggies in her stream, think Susan decided to say "Fuck you in particular" today to her.

>> No.23314948

Blame susan

>> No.23314976

Way more realiable than YT numbers at least.

Today's chart here

>> No.23315154

Didn't the guy got like, higher peaks than Vox on all the collabs they did? Sounds like imaginary numbers to me but idk

>> No.23315161

twitch you see the correct number sometimes
youtube you see the correct number never
well i guess so

>> No.23315178

Yeah, but 68% of their merch sales? Even if it's more than just physical CDs, selling $25 million in music and then only $11.6 million in other merch seems weird.
Note that Pixiv on the chart is actually Pixiv's Booth, so most if not all of that income source is also merch.

>> No.23315301

Hit submit before finishing my thought, but the implication is if there's 0.8 billion yen in Booth sales and 3.3 billion in Sony music sales is that Nijisanji's official store makes next to nothing, which can't be true.

>> No.23315391
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Nevermind, I found the reason. Sony Music operates Niji's official store. Thought it would be something like that.

>> No.23315704

Doesnt that still means regular merch makes "pennies"?

>> No.23315722

Newsflash, Vox isn't that popular. He just has an obsessive fanbase of mentally ill chinks that are loud and annoying enough to make him seem more popular than he is.

>> No.23315810

Yeah anon but Shoto was a 3 view shitter before leeching Luxiem and start inclining. Isn't at least a bit strange that on all collabs they did Shoto gets ahead of him streaming on Twitch?

>> No.23315811

yeah Vox will have fujo paypigs, and most fujos will only come to his big event celebrations

>> No.23315839

To be fair, and I don't watch Shoto, but Vox is a boring piece of shit so I wouldn't be surprised if the more normal people moved over to someone else through exposure

>> No.23315856

>>23315810 (me)
*3 digit view shitter, lol

>> No.23315892

>SCs mean nothing
Not even cope anymore. Based Anycolor for finally showing the people who need to learn the truth the truth. The average subhuman thinks it is still SCs that fuel the industry but it isn't. All th9is talk of NijiEN holding up Nijisanji was a crock and it feels fucking great seeing it with objective eyes all around.

>> No.23315895 [DELETED] 

This dude going to be rich 10y from now

>> No.23315983

fujos will buy truckloads of vox merch though

>> No.23315986

This dude going to be rich 10y from now

>> No.23316049
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from the very little i watched from him he is pretty much what you expect from most twitch chuuba/niji en guys. no wonder fujos treat him like a niji

>> No.23316083

>Sony Music operates Niji's official store.
>Sony Music
Huh? Why?

>> No.23316125

didn't ask and no, those are a small drop in the greater niji ecosystem. It's like caring about the amount of feces a shrew makes when you have elephants waddling and passing by.

>> No.23316164

There are even vtuber startups that thinks that

>> No.23316176

How so?

>> No.23316215

I mean to be fair if your chuubas never make it to 3view, never actually get popular enough to sell merch or get sponsorships, then yes donations are what keeps you afloat.

>> No.23316289

Hololive x UmaMusume

>> No.23316298

they have the production and sales channels. if you want traditional media (cd, md, dvd, bds, vinyl, cassette, vhs, etc.), it's very expensive to do small production if you don't have your own pressing. sony's sales channel (physical stores, cdjapan, amazon, etc.) will pay to stock their shelf so less risk on sony and niji for initial production cost.

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>> No.23316352

Cover is a communist state that feeds it's early but useless party members. Merit means nothing.

>> No.23316383

Is Sana unsalvageable? I think if Reine was playing Kirby right now there's a reasonable chance she'd get a better number. I know Moona would.

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Because they offer all-in-one solutions for online merchandise sales and production. This probably lets Anycolor do merch and ecommerce without as many dedicated staff. It's not just production, the full gamut of stuff, pic related.

>> No.23316423

*pssst* hey anon, yeah you. I'm going to tell you a huge secret, let me get close so I can whisper it in your ear
>*all* of this means nothing it's just fun to horse race and SCs are no different

>> No.23316485

10-12k. Yes there's no one else streaming but I think when you have completely dead evenings it sort of "lets people off the hook" and they go do something else rather than watching Holos so some of them just aren't around when someone finally shows up. Ideally you want a steady stream of people building up interest and audience throughout the day.

>> No.23316501

>niji ecosystem
Where is it? Luxiem does well in the JP merch ranking

>> No.23316508


>> No.23316512

I didn't see the report, where do they make their money from then?

>> No.23316558

Goldship to Hololive when? they already have le monkey man connection via Laplus and yakuza connect with Lamy.

>> No.23316585

12k max, no goomba to push it further, kronii won't show up either, no one else matters

>> No.23316597

Nah, Reine still has the ID debuff and a larger cull than what Sana has to deal with.

>> No.23316724

Bro come on, ID gets tragic numbers with debuff games, Reine is most certainly not a "casually gets 2k on debuff shit" and neither is Moona.

Sana also needs to move the fuck on from Kirby goddamn.

>> No.23316753

About 47% merch, 22% all streaming revenue (ads, memberships, SC, etc), 18% sponsors, 7% events. At least for the most recent year.

>> No.23316836

Think it was the first 3 quearters of 2021 iirc.

>> No.23316892

fy2021 not calendar year april-dec

>> No.23316926

yes the most recent 3q reported but percentages don't care about timeframe

>> No.23317023

because XIV is not a MMO until the endgame, retard

>> No.23317024

pink lamy and green lamy dominating the lamy slot

>> No.23317127

Koyo at almost 8k and she still on the tutorial part. Wonder how much she will get with actual matches

>> No.23317173

Kson peaked at 7,1k in Twitch doing some react shit. She's been just talking for almost an hour and she's holding 6,2k viewers. It's the NA hours in Twitch + speaking english most of the time such a buff for her?
I know she's culled af in YT but this numbers are just unthinkable in her YT channel

>> No.23317191

I don't know enough about powapro autists to know if Koyori being brand new to the series is a debuff or buff lol but it seems to be doing alright?

>> No.23317232

It's weird to see how hard Towa underperformed with OW2, the hot new game, vs her ridiculous OW1 EN collab numbers, both CCV and VOD wise.

Is it because in the EN collab she
1)gathered all the JP views, whereas she lost a fuckton to the superior FPS holo, Botan, this time?
2)She streamed in NA times, where her EOP fanbase all managed to actually show up for once?

>> No.23317234

So we don't even know what % of that 22% SCs are, because our knowledge of membership numbers is murky and our knowledge of ad rev amounts is pretty much nonexistant. Either way, it doesn't look particularly meaningful to the company overall. For an individual streamer, it might be, if they get a lot of them.

>> No.23317259

I hope the fact Koyori is trash at games is more widely known at this point, it's kind of an appeal of her at this point

>> No.23317289

Kson pisses me off because she of all people could talk so much about the cull but she's been rather mum about it, to the point where other corpos like fucking NijiEN have been more outspoken on the subject.

>> No.23317299

I wish one day we have a full Hololive party for FFXIV raids

>> No.23317305

i have hope that gamma will be better. Him and my son actually like baseball

>> No.23317321

Both, plus OW is simply a bigger game in EN than JP where it is truly dead.

>> No.23317336

twitch bloats numbers while youtube culls. I'd rather take the culled number to guess and estimate a vtuber's popularity because being bloated means numbers can be gamed

>> No.23317362

I watched her for like 10 minutes, it's completely unbearable non-content. Watching unfunny or incomprehensible 1-2 minute tiktoks and not even reacting to them. The kind of stuff people on twitch really like. Wouldn't be surprised if a big part of that audience are entirely different than the ones that watch her JP youtube streams. Bleedover from Vshoujo and general twitch streamers who recognize her.

>> No.23317375

Monkey man?

>> No.23317388

That's not as lopsided as I thought desu, we all knew for a while that merch made more but since we can't numberfag that anymore (*thanks* r*ddit) it's still worth keeping track of SC since we saw in Millie's case at least that made up over half her YT income

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>> No.23317422

Depending on her back, this could be the final.

>> No.23317456

This is just pure misinformation, what she did today is to watch "Fallout 76 by Internet Historian" because she gonna play Fallout 76 tomorrow then proceed doing her zatsudan.

>> No.23317531

NijiEN mems are dramafags. They love to opine on a lot things they know nothing about.

>> No.23317546

Sana's just filling streams with whatever until Splatoon 3 comes out.

>> No.23317574

I got in the stream when she was already chatting and checked the VOD to see what she was doing before, I saw that she was reacting to some video and went to the live again.
The thing is that she's getting x2,5 her YT numbers in Twitch

>> No.23317580

Holy shit, he does look like a monkey man.

>> No.23317603

I thought Alban was Noctyx' inclining ace but it seems its just minecra spam in fujo hours lmao, he's getting some embarrassing numbers in NA times.

this looks like a feedback loop for future male NijiENs from now on. Try NA, get shit numbers, double your numbers whenever you go to asian times, move to asian times, overlap everyone else there and lower their numbers

>> No.23317616

Koyori 9k! baseball saikooou

>> No.23317643

Has Sana even bothered playing the other Spalatoon games? It seems if it's a game she's not personally interested in playing, like something she's played before, she just won't stream it. Thus we get...only the new Nintendo releases which are the only games she wants to play.

>> No.23317653

She has some interest in Elden ring, but she will probably play Minecraft and Splatoon 2.

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>18% sponsors, 7% events
So little. I thought these would be bigger chunks of the pie.

Merch is king though. Marine's SCs didn't pay for her vanity project that's for sure.

I think people like Millie just have almost no access to other revenue streams. I do wonder about the wealth distribution within Anycolor.

>> No.23317715

I think Fungus is unironically the strongest out of them with the NA audience. Seems to have the highest floor and isn't too far off from Shu.

>> No.23317716

It's about time. Hololive really made the game extremely popular and is the primary driver of why a lot of vtubers played it.

>> No.23317739

She is a huge fan of it and did a solo steam and a Collab with ina IRyS and Kronii 5 months ago

>> No.23317750

Yes, its even on her channel. You could at least look, there aren't that many videos.

>> No.23317773

Sana said, herself, that she's going to spam the shit out of Splatoon 3 when it comes out.

>> No.23317823

Elden Ring would probably be a shitty choice with her back problems.

>> No.23317869

Events and sponsorships are pretty rare overall, especially when you've got 200+ streamers out there grinding daily and shilling their merch. If you look at a mega event like Holofest yes they made a lot on tickets but I bet they matched that on the amount of merch they moved associated with the event. That's normal for bands to make more on merch than they do on the concert tickets, after the venue and ticketing service takes their cut.

>> No.23317886

nah, it's fine. She will beat even if it takes 4 months

>> No.23317968

Higher than last year. I think it'll beat 2020 as well, but it might be close.

>> No.23318004

yeah concerts are typically not made to maximize profits, they're used just to give the singer an audience to market themselves to

>> No.23318062

so does hololive have konami perms now? or is it just for the new baseball game? koyoyo is playing it rn

>> No.23318072

Marine's MV 1.5 million views get

>> No.23318095

So... Nijisanji Livers are basically salesmen without a base salary?

>> No.23318127

always have been

>> No.23318143

I don't know what mode Koyori has started but it's shooting up her numbers, so close to 10k

>> No.23318153

They're a great opportunity to make merch too. Random merch falling out of the sky may not be as appealing as concert merch.

Maybe since revenue from events aren't a big deal maybe Anycolor didn't eat it's ass as much as we thought by not holding Fantasia.

>> No.23318160

mayodog 10k

>> No.23318158

>Is Sana unsalvageable?
If Matsuri can reintegrate into the box there isn't much stopping Sana from doing it once she puts down the long debuff streams.

>> No.23318181

It's possible that the company might make more from merch simply due to the fact that they also dabble heavily in the type of mass produced merch (clothes, potato chips) where the liver gets even less of a cut than they do SCs.

>> No.23318183

I think it's just powapro and stuff like that.

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This is a funnel.

>> No.23318208

Fauna kept 5k people trough her superchat reading tonight even with Sana streaming at the same time. Pretty good retention from her.

>> No.23318222

Doesn't this horse girl get massive numbers whenever she streams? Has she ever won gold?

>> No.23318225

i think it was success, i'm like half watching it since she's been menuing for a while

>> No.23318236

anons here think all sponsorships are six digits $

>> No.23318244

It's actually baffling to see Sana jump from timeslot to timeslot but still keep like, a 3k average. Are there really hardcore sana fans that follow her everywhere?

>> No.23318256

She's really good at talking.

>> No.23318284

No Holo is truly unsalvageable when you consider how powerful the box is. Lets just say though that it will be considerably more difficult for Sana.

>> No.23318295

A sponsorship stream of someone with 500k subs should be $8.5k at least. Those should add up.

>> No.23318298

Thank you tree mama

>> No.23318306

Makes me think what kind of merch Nijifest is going to present later in October. Would they got for the standard stuff or would they go for expensive merch? Would they try making a 1/1 statue of Kuzuha or MiTo and auction it for charity?

>> No.23318309

This but Genshin for Nijisanji.

>> No.23318327

Yes. Why wouldn't there be, there isn't much like her in holo.

>> No.23318336

All the big streams are flesh streams.

>> No.23318338

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88QKF3yuiyI Eventhough it's not on a main channel Wicked is on track to hit 1 million soon, shame it doesnt have an MV.

>> No.23318370

She is on the story/dialog part now so numbers will drop a bit. Whatever another match start will get her another boost

>> No.23318378

On a topic channel? That's pretty strong.

>> No.23318389

New rrat is Konami giving perms to Hololive as to compare numbers with Niji membs. To proof that Holos can't attain the numbers Niji gives. But all they're doing is giving it to koyo and gamma, then have them play at a weekday morning. The first day of golden week, no one is gonna watch a pp game. They'll just sleep in.

>> No.23318425

Yea released 1st april on Suisei topic channel.

>> No.23318424

Koyo 10k get. She may not win medals but she's won my heart.

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>30.830: ChroNoiR
>20.977: Kuzuha
>17.473: Kuzuha
>14.588: Mysta Rias
>11.490: Yashiro Kizuku
>8.973: Tsukino Mito
>8.911: Lize Helesta
>7.572: Kanae
>7.505: Nui Sociere
>7.416: Vox Akuma
>6.527: Luca Kaneshiro
>6.094: Shu Yamino
>5.823: Sasaki Saku
>5.766: Hayato Kagami
>5.324: Ars Almal

>> No.23318465

That's not only schizo, Koyori is doing good numbers with it.

>> No.23318469

interesting, I've never seen it in my recommendations, and it's in a topic channel so hitting 1m is impressive.

>> No.23318483

fromsoft way. they want the holos to play their game

>> No.23318488

now this is some good ass fanfiction

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>> No.23318516

I mean, it was only a matter of time. Cygames is pretty favourable towards Hololive. Princonne global was successful due to Myth shilling on release.

>> No.23318542

It's a buff for Hololive too surprisingly. Imagine the insane numbers if Subaru was playing the baseball game.

>> No.23318555

>Princonne global was successful due to Myth shilling on release.
Do you really believe

>> No.23318582

isn't this a baseball game, it's turning into a VN lmao

>> No.23318585

Yeah, Sana does a lot of shit to debuff herself but the good news for her is that it's all fixable and doesn't require her to do anything huge.

>> No.23318588

Numbers? Worm aside (or not)

>> No.23318618

17k and it's gonna be wormed to hell

>> No.23318636

>Princonne global was successful due to Myth shilling on release
I'm a holofag and this is still a schizo statement.

>> No.23318645

I'm amused that now all 4 top holo songs to 1 million contain Gura in some way.

>> No.23318665

there's a whole story mode full of dialogs lol but the main part still the baseball gameplay ofc

>> No.23318673

I don’t know about the others, but Mumei also has good retention when she reads SCs, so it could be something to do with Council’s audience.

>> No.23318684

Story/career mode I guess. Pretty sure this and the manager modes are the main draws?

>> No.23318714

I'm currently laughing at Konami if the rrat is true. Koyori got 10k when most other Nijis fails to get it. Only people like Ibrahim, maimoto, MiTo(?), Kuzuha could attain it, but a shitter like Koyori could get 10k. Imagine if Pekora started to play it. That's why I hope the rrat isn't true and they will get pekora to play the game at primetime, seeing how pekora got 49k people watching her doing an event with friends.

>> No.23318725

no worm from the chinks, natural numbers from some gook interest

Maybe. I'd say Blue Archive got more a boost from Hololive considering how shilled it was by EN, and it looks like the fuckers keep coming back for more EN sponsorships too.

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>> No.23318758

15k max. No worm

>> No.23318777

His previous karaoke streams:
So, I'd say 14-16K for this one.

>> No.23318778

>instant 10k
fujo worm coming right up

>> No.23318805

Just hire weirdos and autist, it's that easy.

>> No.23318806

It's probably going to be like all the other view farmed streams and we'll get the fujos shitting up the threads as they try to deny, trivialize and deflect.

>> No.23318822

I was new to the game, ended up playing for 5 months with paid monthly boosters in it. Ultimately quitting because gacha is too slow and gameplay is too bland. But, myth got me to playing it. Probably the same for some people. Most people would just say they've been waiting for a global release.

>> No.23318846

I really fucking hate Luxiem/Noctyx's 0 waiting room shit. And I imagine if you were a NijiEN woman fan you'd hate it too. Like its not their fault or a criticism but it's so "not playing by the same rules" I want to punch Susan's face. It also leads to retarded shit like early peaks that never get replicated.

>> No.23318848

Im betting all my money on a 3 nipple worm.

>> No.23318860

>that smooth fucking line
Why can't holoen get this shit

>> No.23318865

>preemptive cope

>> No.23318886

With Asmongold and ludwig sharing how streamer revenue work. We can expect SC to be very small part of the pie if your audiences is large, while also represent a large part if your audiences is small, so using millie analytics to apply to other holos/talent at 1:1 rate is stupid.

>> No.23318896

Just speculating based on past events.

>> No.23318898

they need better viewers and not seaniggers that bot their streams or spics that used adblock

>> No.23318915

This guy has continuosly been trying to be K-pop as far as I could remember to the point of using Korean on twitter. But his singing isn't that great.

>> No.23318952

then how the fuck is he getting these yuge karaoke numbers every time? I thought he was a good singer since his first time buff isn't there any more

>> No.23318990

For vtubers outside of Hololive (and a few top Nijis that get preferential treatment) super chat and memberships (and ad revenue of course) are the most important when it comes to their revenue.

>> No.23319031

Good singing doesn't mean good numbers. Noel and Fauna gets great numbers

>> No.23319044

His singing is not amazing but it's not soul-tier either.

>> No.23319053

Probably a Riku statue, and then he'll requisition it afterwards and put it in his own house.

>> No.23319058

When your viewers try the products you're shilling, it's good business for the sponsors themselves and to the streamers, they only need to spend 1 hour shilling to get a lot of money. No need for that shitty 8 hour reading for $8k. Time is more valuable than money. Plus, Vox's SC is still gonna be fucked by taxes so all he's doing is wasting time.

>> No.23319060

Did he already reach his peak?

Noel does, Fauna doesn't.

>> No.23319072
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flat line nice

>> No.23319075

PowaPro is fucking boring,.

>> No.23319085

Not really for fauna, and Noel is a meme.

Also lmao at his entire audience warping in at the 10th minute mark and the karaoke going down. I'm not saying viewbots, but what the flying fuck is up with this pattern for NijiEn males

>> No.23319109

it stalled at 5 mins, 10 mins now, so it's gonna shoot up again

>> No.23319116

Nips love fucking boring, tho.

>> No.23319117

Luxiem is like 1/3rd of their 5k+ streams....

>> No.23319138

He's just so-so average. Even Kronii's singing of HIP or that other Korean song had some kick into it. Her defining song would always be young and beautiful since she kinda has that Lana del Rey voice.

>> No.23319148

10k within the very first minutes for HoloEN
>holy shit this stream is going to be massive
10k within the very first minutes for NijiEN
>ah yes, the peak is here

>> No.23319154

You think what Vox is doing is wrong? Are you retarded? He's paying taxes for all the revenue he is earning. It doesn't matter if it's superchat, memberships, sponsorships, merchandise, ads.

>> No.23319163

Vtubers utterly dominate the overall SC charts, you can't assume that anime girl streamer income breakdowns are exactly the same as 3D streamers

>> No.23319164

this mode seems to be literally a visual novel with a baseball theme

>> No.23319183

Priconne anime being successful in the west as a Konosuba-lite had a lot more to do with that, though I'm sure the Myth marketing campaign helped.

>> No.23319193

she is playing the story mode. the actual matches are more fun to watch

>> No.23319194

Why not say bots?

>> No.23319196

They are getting culled. Poor guys.

>> No.23319215

>all he's doing is wasting time
He gets off to the attention and has admitted as much.

>> No.23319225

20k, super wormed.

>> No.23319235

Well, Niji and Holo don't take small sponsorships like an independent creator might. They also don't take youtuber-style sponsor spots like a 30 second read during a video, it's full streams, multiple streams, or brand collabs. Avoiding the smaller stuff and the stuff that dilutes the agency's brand means a smaller proportion of sponsor income, but compared to even large independent creators/streamers, their merch pipeline is massively bigger.

>> No.23319244

That's only like a 40 minute video if I remember right. What did she do for the rest of the stream?

>> No.23319249

Eh, because that's boy who cried wolf shit if you say it for everything. What I'm seeing is some sort of verification being bypassed by VPNs stuff+ still fresh audience that tunes in for events.

>> No.23319260

>Forewarned collab (for the 10th time)
>4 player co-op with all 4 of them streaming their POV
for what purpose?

>> No.23319282

>Another EN Gold for NijiEN

>> No.23319292

He's just not being efficient in his time that's all. Kiara gets fucked by taxes too, but she only needs to play one sponsored game for one hour to earn what Vox gets from a 12+ hour SC reading that has a milestone celebration in it.

>> No.23319317

>en gold
also, koyo got susan'd

>> No.23319322

People assume Vox hates what he does and is only in it for the money or that he has "sold out" to the fujos. To be fair, an autist who just wants to ERP is a weird one for vtubers.

>> No.23319327

Eh, Forewarned is a game that actively needs all POVs. Unlike Life and Cuphead

>Unarchived karaoke
Congrats I guess

>> No.23319353

>another attempt to bait from a holofag
or maybe you are just a plain shitposter

>> No.23319366

That's why you saw those Cyberlive girls cattily gossiping about whales and SCs in their Discord, that's basically all their income. or why you saw Elira's old persona blowing kisses to fans and saying lines they wanted for $2. The bigger you get the more you can distance yourself from caring about that shit.

>> No.23319385

Vox doesn't need more money, he was rich before he became a vtuber. He does this shit because he likes it.

>> No.23319395

Refer to >>23318990

>> No.23319425

>stalling and even dropping again at exactly 15 mins again
watch it shoot up at 20, classic worm

>> No.23319454

I hate Vox but he's doing exactly what he should be doing, if the goal is to make as much money as you can before peoples taste moves on. He could enough money to live comfortable for a decade without having to work if he wanted.

>> No.23319455

That's even more disgusting now that you say that

>> No.23319469

chink VPNs need sometime to get verified by YT that's why the show up in the CCV number in chunks

>> No.23319523


>> No.23319526

>live comfortable for a decade
For a 3 worlder yes. But for a first worlder, you'd still get fucked by taxes. Myth probably already achieved financial freedom, and Kiara is looking into investing in properties now.

>> No.23319540

You have no idea. Hes basically admitted when he was drunk that he gets off to hordes of women getting off to him. Every single member of Luxiem has seriously backed off pandering, except him who has become more degenerate, because he loves what he does. He says he wants to do literal R-18 porn VPs if they'll let him.

>> No.23319553

I have a question about hololyzer. Does it track the green monthly member chats as new members or is it actually accurate? I forgot to get a screenshot but a holo got like 68 new members in a regular ass stream and I was confused but forgot to ask

>> No.23319559

Yeah so do bots being run on a VPN. The fact that bots and actual users from Chinja basically look the same makes it tricky to sort out unless they're dumb and just do everything instantly.

>> No.23319640

>he wants to do literal R-18 porn VPs
the face of en vtubing

>> No.23319644

Ludwig earned 450k from donations in 26 months, while not on the same level of top vtuber its still a large amount and its still only represent 7% of his total income before counting merch and he's a 20k ccv streamers

>> No.23319682

Comparing him to vtubers is ridiculous. Vtubers get a lot more SCs.

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gold karaoke today
gold celebration yesterday

>> No.23319706

You don't know what they're all doing with their income, unless they say, but assuming Vox is "doing it wrong" because you don't like him is kind of stupid. All that matters is the revenue they're bringing in, after that however they handle their individual finances is a personal matter.

>> No.23319715

Male EN vtubing held such promise. For this guy to end up their equivalent of Gura...

>> No.23319722

Without the pandering too. He always insults people who has a paraocial relationship with him and always show that he has a loving gf on stream.

>> No.23319781

He was on twitch before, and they gets tons of those subs. In fact I think that Ludwig guy was famous for having the most subs at once point (sort of like Ironmouse afew months back).

>> No.23319785

Zatsudan, talked about her 2.5D stream and then become the first Camel Vtuber because of Cametol joke.

>> No.23319793

is he actually getting korean scs or is this just proof that luxiemfags are chinks and kpop stans

>> No.23319797

All I'm saying he's not being efficient in earning money, but if he does it because he gets off to it, then I really don't need to care about it anymore.

>> No.23319855

Nice way to bait people here to watching, but no, I won't want him. But there are actual Korean fans, just not the K-pop Stan ones.

>> No.23319896

No vtubers are "efficient" with earning money, and in fact Vox goes harder than most on getting every dime he can, while he can, which is probably a better idea than taking a bunch of time off and fucking around in what will likely be a fairly short earning window for a vtuber's career.

>> No.23319899

source on your claims, nigger?