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2328048 No.2328048[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

What's with the attitude like "Why should I give her money if she's got a boyfriend"?

Why is it so important that an online performer you'll 100% never meet in person is somehow "available"? If your oshi openly came out about having a bf and being in a healthy loving relationship, would it make you stop supporting completely? Would it make you reduce the donations you send? Is it impossible to enjoy a funny and cute streamer's performance the way you might enjoy a stand-up comic on stage? Do you demand that film actors or anime voice actors be single and available? Does a vtuber who is "taken" lose some inherent value?

>> No.2328113

>>2328048
It's not about believing you'll fuck them but feeling they are relatable

>> No.2328127

>>2328048
One more question, would it make a difference if the streamer had a gf instead? Is a gay vtuber in a relationship less offensive? More erotic?

>> No.2328131

>>2328048
obsessed

>> No.2328156

Now we have a roastie cope thread lmao
The absolute state of /vt/

>> No.2328266
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>>2328048
part of vtubing is the GFE. We gove our GF tokens of affection. Without the GFE they are simply beggers or worse, whores.

>> No.2328357

>>2328048
If I'm in a parasocial relationship with a girl, and someone else has a real relationship with that same girl then I am just some awkward third wheel who is being manipulated.

>> No.2328360

>>2328048
>"Why should I give her money if she's got a boyfriend"?
Because she doesnt need it you asbolute faggot
In fact you should only give it a large amount to her if you want to make her a bit happy, but in the case she has boyfriend shes already happy so no need to degradge yourself as a s9ylent money giver

>> No.2328376

>>2328048
It's about them feeling relatable, fuck riajuus this is a weeb hobby.

>> No.2328403

>>2328048
I mean, if you're giving Vtubers money, you shouldn't be giving them money in hopes they'll become your GF
You should be giving them money because they're good entertainers

>> No.2328507

>>2328048
>If your oshi openly came out about having a bf and being in a healthy loving relationship, would it make you stop supporting completely?
I fully support Coco and Kanata's relationship, as well as Korone and Okayu's, and Botan and Lamy's, and Flare and Noel's.

>> No.2328572

>>2328048
The purity complex stuff is weird as shit, I'll be honest. As someone that primarily watched the Best Friends before watching Vtubers, I find the expectation the entertainer be single is bizarre. I expect my entertainers to be married or in a relationship of some kind, it's kind of weird otherwise.

>> No.2328632

imagine unironically paying a girl to fuck another man
Thank god I don't simp under any circumstances, I enjoy the content but god damn do I hate women with every fibre of my being

>> No.2328702

>>2328572
when I find out a streamer is married or in a serious relationship I normally unsub and never return. I'm not supporting some simp so he can have a whore on retainer

>> No.2328720

>>2328266
>part of vtubing is the GFE
Yeah, if you're a sad sack of shit

>> No.2328728
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>>2328048
Why would I pay for a free stream?

>> No.2328770

>>2328702
>married
>'whore on retainer'
Anon, you do realize that the reason streamers get married or go into a serious relationship is not only for sex, right?

>> No.2328832

>>2328702
Well, you're missing some good stuff. You should probably see a psychologist about your pathological outlook on life, to be honest. I mean, Elvis Presley was married. Have you never listened to a single one of his songs and enjoyed it? What about gay people? Is Freddie Mercury worth supporting?

>> No.2328975

>>2328832
You and the op are such disingenuous little niggers. What a fucking shit thread.

>> No.2328979

>>2328770
What a ludicrous concept, women are good for nothing but sex, especially in the current era where they'll divorce you for expecting them to clean up after themselves
>>2328832
Gays are better than simps since they are rarely influenced by keeping some harpy happy, though I'd rather they stopped raping kids

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>>2328728
>Why would I pay for a free stream?

>> No.2329032

>>2328048
Imagine bursting a blood vessel because people decide not to watch someone.

>> No.2329056

>>2328979
>especially in the current era where they'll divorce you for expecting them to clean up after themselves
Maybe you just have bad taste and judgement in picking women anon.

Just like the women who repeatedly pick guys who ghost them or pump and dump or abuse them and say all men are trash because of it.

>> No.2329111

>>2328979
>What a ludicrous concept, women are good for nothing but sex, especially in the current era where they'll divorce you for expecting them to clean up after themselves
I'm not sure if you're baiting me or just braindead, and congrats Anon on fulfilling the bare minimum of trolling
There are a lot of people who follow Vtubers specifically not for the GFE, and specific really popular Vtubers like Fubuki for example actually really dislike it and prevent it from even being a thing in their community

>> No.2329131

>>2329056
women born after 1995 can't cook or clean all they know is be bisexual, swipe on tinder, eat hot chip and lie

>> No.2329136

>>2328975
I hope you're trolling, man. If not, there is something really wrong with you and you should probably seek some professional help. I pity a man who cannot enjoy the musical stylings of Andrea Bocelli or Willie Nelson just because they were married.

>> No.2329170

>>2329111
fubuki is actually one of my favourites since she puts the content above baiting retards with ASMR shit
>>2329136
>take ur meds
kys tranny simp

>> No.2329189

>comparing music records and cassette tapes to a near-real time livestreamer interaction

>> No.2329272

>>2329136
I'm not even the person you originally responded to you dumb mouth breathing newfag. I just called you out for being the faggot that you are. You even type like a faggot.

>> No.2329306

>>2329170
Struck a nerve, huh?
>>2329189
I mean, you're paying for entertainment either way. Okay, what if you're watching a stand-up comedy act? Would you storm out upon learning the performer George Carlin or Lenny Bruce had a wife?

>> No.2329311

>>2328832
Elvis Presley fucked a sea of women before he died. Freddy Mercury probaby had the best gay orgies with fans backstage. vtubers dont even give us anything close to that retard.

>> No.2329347

>>2329272
Man, I've been here since moot split off from Something Awful because he wanted to post Asuka. You fuck off, cunt.

>> No.2329367

>>2329306
>reductionist argument
ogey

if people want a burger but get served a salad, they shouldn't complain, right? it's still food.

>> No.2329368

>>2329306
>paying for entertainment
What decade is this again? If you're not pirating everything you're a fucking moron

>> No.2329390

>>2329311
I mean, by your metrics, you're still paying other people to have sex just because they entertain you. What's the difference? Once you admit you're okay with the concept, it's just a matter of negotiation.

>> No.2329424

>>2328832
>I mean, Elvis Presley was married. Have you never listened to a single one of his songs and enjoyed it? What about gay people? Is Freddie Mercury worth supporting?
Am I expected to know these boomer musicians? I looked up the Elvis guy and it didn't seem like he was doing boyfriend experience content.

>> No.2329451

>>2329367
It's more like complaining about the chef having a girlfriend despite fulfilling your order for a burger and you just want to cause a scene because you're lonely.

>> No.2329465

>>2329424
Nice bait

>> No.2329490

>>2329424
Did you see those swarms of teenage girls that showed up when he was performing as a young man? What do you think was going through their minds?

>> No.2329529

>>2329451
if you're going down that route the closest analouge would be getting a undercooked burger with limp lettuce and half cooked fries cause the chef is too busy fucking his gf in the pantry

>> No.2329554

>>2329490
>Did you see those swarms of teenage girls that showed up when he was performing as a young man
No, he died decades before I was born.

>> No.2329593

I normally assume unicorns are responsible for most of the supacha revenue, but these threads make me think that unicorns are actually the ones who are most hesitant to give away some money to chuubas.

>> No.2329599

>>2329424
hearty fucking kek

>> No.2329606

>>2329529
Nah, you got what you ordered. You're just disappointed because you wanted to suck the chef's dick for it and was disappointed to learn he was in a committed monogamous relationship.

>> No.2329634

This wanting the girls to talk about their bf thing is entirely new to vt. On /jp/ even anti unicorn people thought it should never be mentioned on stream. You guys are unironically cucks.

>> No.2329652

>>2329554
Well, then look up some Youtube videos. They're pretty easy to find.

>> No.2329677

>>2329593
I have not, nor will I ever, supa a chuuba
>>2329606
and much like getting a lazy burger I don't return to the stream when the content quality drops

>> No.2329738

>>2329634
We don't want the streamers to talk about their life outside of their virtual persona dumbass
We just don't care if they HAVE a relationship

>> No.2329740

>>2328048
I don't actually care about "idol purity" but I don't want to hear about it. Normalfags out. If they can't even be bothered to pretend to not be normalfags, out.

>> No.2329753

>>2329677
Well, then the drop in content quality is probably entirely in your head, and you probably would never have noticed anything if you never learned of the entertainer's significant other and their very existence clouding your perceptions.

>> No.2329776

>>2329593
>>2329634
what is a unicorn in this context

>> No.2329841

>>2329753
yeah because when a youtuber (not nesicerally a streamer) starts shoehorning his gf into half the vids the quality is top fucking notch
ofc you just go BOOBA OMG and wank off

>> No.2329895

>>2329776
Someone who is attracted to virgins.

>> No.2329919

>>2329738
how is it possible to live with this much cognitive dissonance? Don't be ashamed if you have to google what that means, anon.

>> No.2329920

Imagine going to school or work. You might get into a conversation with a girl being the socially awkward autist you are reading this post. When get into a decent convo with a girl. She nonchalantly starts mentioning her boyfriend or some boy she spent some time with. At that point, your brain turns off and you break it off. That moment of brief joy rears its ugly head and you realize she's taken. You come back home and start you watch a livestream of your favorite chuuba. Hoping to get your mind off and enjoy some girlfriend or even friend experience. Suddenly, your favorite Chuuba starts talking about the same thing. Time she's spent with another man. Someone that isn't you. Then it hits you. You're lonely. You're alone. You just want to tell the world to piss off and let you enjoy what little enjoyment you find from watching these chuubas. The same goes for real-life celebrities, anime characters, Japanese Idols, video game characters, etc. Your favorite beloved entertainer/idol is taken from you. You can't relate to them anymore. You can't establish a connection with them. You are all alone.

>> No.2329923

I don't care if she has a boyfriend just don't bring it up in the stream.

>> No.2329934

>>2328048
I have literally no idea who any of these people are, someone help

>> No.2330075

there's no difference between vtubing and busking
>not paying for entertainment
what is free rider problem

>> No.2330084

>>2329920
Imagine having a platonic relationship with a girl. I know it's hard anon, since you don't have any male friends either but it is possible.

>> No.2330113

>>2329841
And if they never bring their significant other up? Ever? Would you ever notice a change in quality?

>> No.2330122
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>>2328048
I'm adjusted enough to know that 99% of chuubas I watch aren't accessible, so I don't watch them for the GFE, I watch them for the entertainment. That doesn't mean I'm not attracted to any or never think "I would date her if I could." I just know it's not possible and deluding yourself into thinking it is possible can't be healthy.

>> No.2330168

>>2330113
Eventually they all do, it's the downward spiral that brings down every great entertainer eventually

>> No.2330169

>>2329919
NTA, but Hime Hajime is literally married, but she doesn't talk about it on stream so it isn't a big deal. They can do whatever they want in their private time, I just don't want to hear about it.

>> No.2330171

>>2330122
don't use marine to cuckpost, faggot.

>> No.2330215

>>2329934
They're all VTubers, listed under the names of the groups they're affiliated with. The only one I like is the gorilla, because the dude can fucking sing.

>> No.2330255

>>2328048
Because most viewers are delusional loners who use this anime girls as escapism from the reality that they will never experience the love of a women in their day to day life.

>wait this whole vtuber thing is a giant gfe experience for delusional people
Yes

>> No.2330300

>>2330169
>VShojo
you need to go back

>> No.2330323

>>2328720
Wheredoyouthinkweare.iso

>> No.2330326

>>2330168
Okay, Johnny Cash came into the game already married. When was his wife-related downward spiral?

>> No.2330359

>>2328832
Nigga what?

>> No.2330361

>>2330326
right at the end when he was making nothing but depressing songs about how his life is utterly meaningless

>> No.2330373

>>2330255
I mean, I watch them for the same reason I watch Pat and Woolie. To watch a clown stumble in the dark and laugh at his uttered profanities every time he stubs his toe.

>> No.2330387

The perspective most comfortable to hear from is one familiar and relatable.

>> No.2330391

>>2330084
I've been friends with girls before. Girls that I wasn't even attracted to. That was until my closest female friend stopped talking to me entirely after she got a boyfriend. That's when I realized that having female friends isn't worth it.

>> No.2330419

>>2329738
I care, if Gura ever talks about a bf im just gonna unsubscribe.

>wow anon what a loser
Yes.

>> No.2330439

>>2330373
this is gonna come as a shock but nobody gives a shit about why you watch them. you probably don't even donate.

>> No.2330459

>>2330373
You are in the minority, the people paying the bills, aka the purityfags care. Anon vtubing watching is coping and delusions, how do you not know this.

>> No.2330474

I really don't like being reminded of the achievements or happiness of others. Out of character, at least

>> No.2330510

>>2330361
Well, that wasn't related to his wife, was it now?
>>2330359
Anon stated he could never enjoy an entertainer, even a male one, if they were in a relationship. I asked if this was true even for some of the great entertainers of our age. I realize there is a gulf in quality comparing them to the VTubers this board is meant to discuss. But once if you admit you're okay with paying someone to entertain you even if said entertainer is in a relationship, all that remains is to grade your hypocrisy if you suddenly decide at some point that is no longer okay.

>> No.2330513

>>2330391
This, girls ultimately live for one man and one man alone, they are physically incapable of having true friends and will throw everything in the trash for a relationship

>> No.2330552

>>2330510
the man would achieved more if he wasn't keeping a slut on retainer

>> No.2330556
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2330556

Imagine your oshi not being openly into BBC, flirting with her male manager every other stream until he gets fed up with all the cockblocking and leaves, just in time for you to announe public auditions to be your husband, claiming financial instability. Except you just laugh all the attendees off while promoting sex toys made in your image.

Purityfags truly are weak.

>> No.2330578

If they are playing their character well, the concept of a real-life boyfriend should never come up.

>> No.2330653

>>2330510
Anon, idk i didn't read the thread. Im just gonna call you a faggot,i don't care about your crush on woolie, i don't care about what you wrote. Elvis is also overrated. You are fag and so is the first guy you were answering to.

>> No.2330686

>>2330556
posts like this are why people don't like americans

>> No.2330702

>>2330556
What's the fuck is up with white people and their black dick obssesion.

>> No.2330718

>>2330556
jesus christ please kill yourself for the good of the world

>> No.2330750

>>2330439
But I'm an exception to that anon's statement. Which proves it categorically untrue. And I do have running subscriptions to Pat and Woolie's channels. Admittedly, the only VTubers I have Youtube memberships to are Kiara and Ina since they're the ones I like the most.
>>2330459
Because I don't watch them to cope and delude myself, how do you not understand this from my posts? I watch them to laugh when they fuck up, and occasionally be impressed if they pull off something nice.

>> No.2330795

>>2330653
Well, thanks for your contribution, I guess. Hope you have a good day at school tomorrow.

>> No.2330825

>>2330686
>>2330702
>>2330718
Not him but DWU is nip. She even commissioned a Cosplay JAV of her model starring Karin Nishida.

>> No.2330866

>>2330825
Even worse, American influence is the worst thing to happen to Japan since the Tokugawa Shogunate banned porn

>> No.2330881

Well, it's been fun, lads. But I got to go to bed. Work tomorrow. Hope you all keep yourselves well.

>> No.2330915

>>2330122
>>2330122
>I'm adjusted enough to know that 99% of chuubas I watch aren't accessible, so I don't watch them for the GFE
They are accessible since you can watch their stream from your house. Sure you may never meet in real life, but you can belive that they are actually your friend / girlfriend.
Similarly it's like enjoying ASMR streams where a girl talks to you. It's not like she's ever going to come over to your house and whisper in your ears, but at least you can pretend that you aren't alone.

>> No.2330935

>>2330795
I graduated university like 4 years ago.

>> No.2330955

>>2330881
choke on your tongue faggot

>> No.2330979

>>2328048
Idol culture in Japan basically has the fans assume the boyfriend role. If she has a boyfriend, that means she isnt putting all of her time and effort into pleasing her fans and social responsibility is huge in Japanese culture.

>> No.2331031

>>2330750
Anon you are in the minority. Those dudes sending red superchats every stream, they bring in the cash, and they do it because its pure cope and goslingposting on their part. You think tbey throw someone like Gura or Mori 100 bucks just because they think they are funny, come on man.

>> No.2331049

>>2329934
Top left is gamebu. They were awesome, company tried to sneakily replaced the VAs, fans found out, company still replaced them and I think gamebu is dead now. Next to them is Cocoa, character-wise is the sister to the black haired dude in gamebu. Awesome singer, left the company eventually. There's a new Cocoa (different VA) but uses her own channel instead of the previous one. Under Samprise is Aoi, an oldie. Her model got really good looking as time went on. Good singer too. Gorilla and ninja under VEEMusic are also old and still alive, tho I mostly see them in APEX tourneys. Gorilla I guess is now most known for being one of the few APEX Predator-ranked vtubers and doing a cover with Sora. 22/7 had that one girl who could speak english well. Bottom right are those two dudes who run some japanese restaurant i think? They appeared on Suisei's radio show. Don't know much about them, I might be wrong. Kikuru had Yua who people used to make fun of during the 4-kings era despite her actually having an ok number of viewers/subs compared to most. The two under KMNZ are cute and sing. The twin purple ninja sisters are still alive. There were already way too many vtubers back then.
>>2328572
Maybe if the SBFP were attractive like some other traditional youtubers/streamers or if they started out as vtubers with attractive avatars. Most of the best friends iirc were single until they got more popular, with Matt iirc having a GF during the Chrono Trigger period but then breaking up with time later but this is a vtuber board. So leave traditional youtubers out of discussion. Thread is garbage tho.

>> No.2331091

>>2328048
See map. See Game-bu. Crying.

>> No.2331179

>>2330556
This is legit the most cucked american degenerate sex addict thing ive ever read on here and im a fucking gosling

>> No.2331237

>>2328048
Yes.

>CHAD.jpeg

>> No.2331249

it's fine to have a bf but don't sex on stream like ollie

>> No.2331284

>>2331249
I can't wait for ollie to graduate so I can stop seeing her fucking face all over this godforsaken board

>> No.2331299

>>2331049
thank you based autistic weebanon

>> No.2331498

>>2331299
I have all this useless knowledge about Internet related things/history. Wish it was actually useful knowledge. I'm not autistic enough to respond to youtube comments but I'm sadly autistic enough to read them and get annoyed by how people talk about stuff, in this case vtubers, confidently without knowing much or even doing the most basic research. God I'm such a loser. I wish COVID wasn't a thing. Hope you have a good day and life anon.

>> No.2331673

>>2331498
you too bro
Actually I just realized I at least knew KMNZ, I remember a year or two (?) ago I was listening to related at the gym 24/7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYQGWVSVl_Y

>> No.2331737

>>2330084

As much as I like to believe that. It never works out in the end anon. Either one of you decide to initiate a relationship or you get into a relationship with someone else. The other gets to become a third-wheel in your "friend group". It always turn ugly, especially when its a relationship that has been going on for very long time. Either person feels cheated out, try to be friendly but in very passive-aggressive/ competitive manner, ultimately accept it and leave that friendship altogether. The only thing you hear is the occasional holidays or birthday message before either one of you move on.

>> No.2331755

>>2331673
>wasting time at the gym when you're going to die anyway

>> No.2331780

>>2330979
Having followed Morning Musume and the JP indie idol scene for a while I'm pretty sure it's only a sin if you get caught or if you don't keep it on the downlow (also cause idols are commonly underaged). The idol scene isn't defined by AKB48 my dude.
I mean, even with a super otaku centric idol group like Idolm@ster they don't fit the unicorn meme that people like to spout, since the 765 girls were already hags by the mid 2010s with some of them in relationships already but they still had huge followings and performed all the time back thenl though I guess you could make the case that the 765 girls were Seiyuus first and idols second and that the standards they were made to follow were different than the ones the newer girls have to.
It's what I like about the J-Idol scene compared to the Korean one, besides the intrinsic "building-up" appeal and the fact that it's super diverse in terms of target demographics and not hyperspecialized into mainstream pop, the girls can actually graduate when they want to, with some of them choosing to do so to get married etc. Not like in Korea where it kind of feels like the girls are signed onto a life contract and even leaving the group is seen as taboo.

>> No.2331843

>>2331755
Maybe he enjoys it. There are those who workout to get fit and then those weirdos who pump iron and go "ITS SO FUN, C'MON GUYS!".

>> No.2331856

>>2331780
Korea is just Japan except worse anyway

>> No.2331901

>>2331843
There's few things I hate more than gymbros that spend every waking moment talking about fitness and trying to get everyone to join them
Nothing against fitness like, I run and cycle, but gymbros are a fucking cancer, it's like sois that try and get you to watch their latest capeshit epic and won't shut the fuck up about it

>> No.2331969

>>2329841
What if they never talk about or show the gf/bf live on stream but they mention them on social media?

>> No.2332040

>bait thread gets 100 replies in an hour
>general discussion threads about singular vtubers not from holoEN last weeks
Sugee

>> No.2332068

>>2331969
you know it never stays there and they're clearly wasting their time on romantic pursuits instead of creating the art they're well capable of

>> No.2332078

>>2331856
The place has it's high points, there's still an extant worthwhile music scene with acts like Mukimukimanmansu, Yukari, and Mid-Air Thief despite K-Pop siphoning the scene to death, and the five good directors the country has put out some nice stuff, but it really feels like each Korea is just a mirror towards each other except one is a Hypercapitalist hellhole and the other a Hypercommunist one.

>> No.2332095

>>2332040
maybe your indie tuber is shit and should fuck off

>> No.2332126

>>2332078
NK is a testing ground for China's worst ideas
SK is a testing ground for America's worst ideas

>> No.2332251

>>2328048
People say it's bait but I think it's a good question. I just watch them for their personality and entertaining commentary. I used to watch non-vtuber women and never cared about their personal lives or if they were dating anyone. They're all human just like us and it's not that unusual

>> No.2332294

>>2332095
No, literally every thread but EN is alive for weeks, Towa Mio Subaru IDs, all of the JP holos have slow threads except Coco and that's because they're basically bait threads. And niji threads are basically non existent, I guess there are vshojo threads but every time I get in one half the posts are baiting or shitting on the company or other companies

>> No.2332409

>>2332294
VShojo is a company of coomers for coomers ofc it's all bait

>> No.2332596

>>2332126
I want them both to finally unite just so that we can finally unlock the Cyberpunk dystopian timeline.

>> No.2332703

This website unironically has bigger idolfags than JOPs do

>> No.2332721

>>2332596
we're not getting the cyberpunk timeline anon
this is the Fahrenheit timeline

>> No.2332763

>>2332703
Like everything else, America does it best

>> No.2332926

>>2328048
I don't and won't donate ever because that is what idolfags do, but if I did donate this would be my personal criteria:
>Has a boyfriend
No problem. Make some content that impresses me and I might donate.
>Has a husband
Congratulations. Make some content that impresses me and I might donate.
>Has a husband or boyfriend but plays up the GFE angle in order to more effectively extract money from the mentally ill.
This is a dealbreaker. While you don't need to go full Matsuri and tell your fans everything about who you are, you should at least approach them with sincerity.

>> No.2332993

>>2332926
based sane poster

>> No.2333122

>>2332926
This the only real reasonable position that any person could have. If you can financially support other artists that create content that you like just because of the entertainment value that they provide, a VTuber shouldn't be an exception either unless they're trying to take you (the customer) for a ride.

>> No.2333153

>>2332926
The problem is that people in those first two groups typically keep their boyfriend / husband a secret even when people start confessing how much they love them.

>> No.2333248

>>2333153
Sounds like their problem

>> No.2333308

>>2331498
Bro no lie this is how historical references, archives and deep lore wikis are kept.
Somebody is autistically gifted enough to record and source. Never be ashamed to know.

>> No.2333417

>>2328048
There's a couple reasons. First, if a vtuber has a boyfriend he should be supporting her, not random people on the internet. I wont give a donation to a woman for her to support a man. That's not to say I wouldn't buy a product from a woman in a situation like that, but a donation is not a sale. I'd expect something tangible in return. Second, vtubers very often form parasocial relationships with their chat, where the vtuber gets emotional support from them and gives emotional support in return, which is something you are supposed to get from your significant other if you have one, so I'd consider it a sort of emotional affair, which I don't support even if they're both fine with it because NTR is gross.

>> No.2333458

>>2333248
NTA but I agree, Japan is super big into personal privacy anyway so it isn't too weird to want to keep relationships and shit like that under the radar but some people will delude themselves, that's no fault of the vtuber. If they're going for GFE or marketing themselves as an Idol then I don't see anything wrong with purityfagging at that point since that's what's to be expected from both parties anyway.
However you have retards who just HAVE to polarize every single discussion so every vtuber HAS to be pure or HAS to be fine with bringing up sex and relationships despite the fact that there's plenty of room for differing appeal and target audiences.

>> No.2333634

OP is a fucking faggot and so is anyone else defending this. If you give her money you're just paying for hers and another man's fucking dinner. Then he's gonna fuck her after said dinner. You're PATHETIC. Japan has the right idea with their strict requirements of 3D idols remaining single or at least doing their very very best to avoid letting it get out there.

>> No.2333684

>>2333153
When that kind of thing happens, the important part is not what the mentally ill have decided to do of their own accord but what you do in response. To give two examples of what I consider to be exemplary conduct, Fubuki made those people go away by making fun of them and Suisei made those people go away by ignoring them and actively deciding to never make content that panders to them. Both of them could have decided to instead indulge or express gratitude/faux-gratitude towards the mentally ill in order to farm them for money, but they did not because that is distasteful, improper, and insincere.

>> No.2333764

>>2329390
The difference is that you never donated to Elvis, you bought a product. It's a business transaction at that point, you give money and get a set of music, or a shirt, whatever. A donation by definition is just for support of something, you don't get anything in return except maybe gratitude. Which means you're giving free support to a woman with a boyfriend and are a cuck.

>> No.2333855

>>2333634
We're paying them for the content they produce, not to feel ownership over them.

>> No.2333864

>>2333248
>Sounds like their problem
Which is why after their secret boyfriend / husband is discovered they all freak out because it shatters the GFE. A streamer doesn't have to play up GFE for someone to use her stream as a GFE.

>> No.2333868

>2333634
>Japan has the right idea with their strict requirements of 3D idols remaining single
Lol. Imagine saying this when the most prominent Japanese idol agency unironically functions as a front business for yakuza-run prostitution

>> No.2333992

>>2328048
They're just streamers with an anime persona instead of a facecam. Idol culture is retarded and so are the people who fall for it.

>> No.2334000

>>2333868
I hope yagoo follows their example and starts whoring out the roomates

>> No.2334018

>>2333855
No, they're giving the content away for free, you're not paying for anything, that's why it's called a donation and not a sale.

>> No.2334053

Was creating /vt/ so we can have these kind of threads a good choice?

>> No.2334061

>>2333764
Price is a reflection of demand for a given good or service. What do you think was principally responsible for the price of--and therefore demand for-- Elvis' music/T-shirts/whatever? If you know anything about the history of pop music, then you are undoubtedly well aware that it is not because his music was revolutionary, unique, or holistically outstanding from a technical standpoint.
>>2333864
>Which is why after their secret boyfriend / husband is discovered they all freak out because it shatters the GFE.
Ayame actively disproves this.

>> No.2334063

>>2333864
They never made that promise in the first place though. It's not their obligation to parent delusional idiots

>> No.2334093

>>2334018
But you can support them which allows them to continue making the content unless you're a poorfag and a couple dollars is a significant cost to you

>> No.2334128

>>2334053
you prefer the doxxing?

>> No.2334129

>>2334093
why would you ever pay for something that is free

>> No.2334156

>>2330552
You got such high levels of cope, you're sucking your own dick. I mean this with all the compassion I can muster: go back into your daddy's bag - you're not ready.

>> No.2334164

>>2334128
This board has more doxxes than ever though, have you checked the ban page

>> No.2334204

>>2332721
The fact that this is true is terrifying

>> No.2334234

>>2328048
Because I want to have a parasocial relationship with her.
I wouldn't waste 100$ on her, if I knew she likes the other guy more.
Actually I'm not going to give any money anyway, because I'm too poor and cheap, but if I were richer, that what I would think.

>> No.2334277

>>2334063
>They never made that promise in the first place though
Not even GFE streamers promise that. People just have to hope that the streamer they like isn't a whore.

>> No.2334303

>>2334063
Objectively? No, you're right 100%
Subjectively? The delusional idiots are the ones paying them.

>> No.2334306

>>2334277
all women are whores except the ones too disabled to leave their room like Ironmouse, and she's still gagging for cock at all times

>> No.2334312

>>2334164
>ban page
that's the thing, action is actually taken here. in /jp/ there was literally multiple active doxx threads

>> No.2334320

>>2328048
>Is it impossible to enjoy a funny and cute streamer's performance the way you might enjoy a stand-up comic on stage?
Except it's not what they are.
They make their money by making poor guys fall in love with them. It's questionnable from a moral standpoint, so I believe it's only fair if we have our standards too.

>> No.2334374

>>2334129
So it continues *being* free -- or more importantly: so it doesn't stop, entirely.

It's okay, I understand that you ride daddy's dick to keep that money coming, so you don't really understand donations or charity -- I hope you never have to.

>> No.2334376

>>2334312
There really weren't, basically global was the doxx thread and honestly it still is even on this board

>> No.2334406

>>2334376
You were not around for doxx being left up for 12+ hours in /hlg/ threads or even actual doxx threads in /jp/ pre-global.

>> No.2334415

>>2333634
You could say this of giving money to anyone that has a partner though. Should I not tip my waitress if she has a boyfriend?

>> No.2334416

>>2334374
your favourite whore is paid by her corp through advertising deals, song deals, shit like holofest
Donations are completely pointless in this context you idiot, vtubers aren't charities, they're business. You're donating to coca cola

>> No.2334426

>>2334306
That's a strange stance to take, being a whore yourself.

>> No.2334430

>>2328127
Yes, for me it's less offensive, but it maybe different for other people.
Say, if you knew that your girlfriend cheats on you with other girlfriend, would you be ok with that?

>> No.2334455

>>2334374
Company vtubers don't need your donations, indies shouldn't need your donations since it shouldn't be their job. I don't see any of those indies streaming for a year to 10 viewers quitting due to no donations

>> No.2334468
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2334468

>Whore this whore that
Why are you even watching chuubas. Go back to anime or visual novels you sad sacks.

>> No.2334470

>>2328113
Bullshit, if it was just about being relatable you'd be watching guys.

>> No.2334509

>>2334415
You shouldn't tip period, they're getting paid, do not respond to this if you're american

>> No.2334532

>>2328048
I don't understand it either.
I would even more happily give a girl with a boyfriend money, I enjoy being a cuck after all.

>> No.2334536

>>2331901
>a fucking cyclist
Of course you would hate your betters

>> No.2334552

>>2334415
You shouldn't give money to anyone you're sexually or romantically attracted to if you're not already fucking them and especially not if they're being fucked by someone else, even if you also know you never will fuck them. It makes you a paypig, a simp, and a cuckold.

>> No.2334559

>>2334509
but if I don't tip 85% on my meal they'll think I'm an asshole and shit in my spaghetti

>> No.2334572

>>2334416
Imagine being so mentally deficient you think Hololive/Niji is all that exists.

Maybe I missed where you were sucking their cocks, and assumed I laid in the same bed as you.

>> No.2334578

>>2334536
Sorry gymcel, try come cardio one day so you aren't out of breath after a flight of stairs like the fatass you know you are

>> No.2334586

>>2334552
We all kinda cucks here. However some of us are more than others.

>> No.2334600

>>2334572
>my 8 viewer indie is all that matters guys if I don't simp my paycheck she'll starve!

>> No.2334611

>>2334509
Alright fine, if you don't like that example then what about a street performer or something?

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2334612

If you are calling other people cucks you have a problem.
If you are offended being called a cuck you have a problem.

>> No.2334616

>>2334572
Show me the indies that stopped streaming due to lack of donations

>> No.2334620

>>2332703
you shouldn't be surprised. this is the same site that has someone legitimately schizophrenic enough to regularly make accounts for and run the zhang wheelbarrow script during Roberu's morning streams because a false flagger used to spam Holostar images (or on other days, EN) in the /jp/ thread and is cheered on for it because ORANGE MAN BAD

>> No.2334638

>2334552
>You shouldn't give money to anyone you're sexually or romantically attracted to if you're not already fucking them
So giving money to men is A-OK?

>> No.2334641

>>2334415
You shouldn't tip your waitress for any reason. That's her business's job

>> No.2334670

>>2334578
I'm a competitive swimmer. Run a red light and get hit by a bus you waste of taxpayer dollars

>> No.2334673

>>2334616
>FIVE DOLLARS DO YOU NOT HAVE FIVER DOLLARS

>> No.2334677

>>2328048
This board is full of cucks. We know it already.

>> No.2334692

>>2334600
>Fake anime girl won't suck my dick - bet me hoarding my money and posting on /vt/ will get them good

>> No.2334694

>>2334670
>competitive swimmer
imagine doing a sport so homosexual you need to shave your legs for tenths

>> No.2334697

>>2334611
I have to give money to a street performer because otherwise I will be looked down by other crowd.
Nobody knows or cares I'm not donating on stream, so there's no reason for me to do it.

>> No.2334720

>>2334692
>fake anime girl won't suck my dick, guess I'll simp $100 a steam anyway cause I really like the way she giggles no I swear I'm not in love fuck you

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