/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

What makes Holostars unpopular?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23099444
Many of them are boring. The one you posted is a perfect example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23099444
Zero interaction with the female side.
Also they all speak Japanese. There is no Holostars EN.

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millie deflection thread

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>>23099444
women are only interested in men that are taken or are around other women. it shows that they are high value, similar to how employers only like to hire people with jobs.

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YAGOO has no eyes in men

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>>23099488
>not know who yatogami fuma was
do newfags really?

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>>23099444
What makes Niji unpopular? The answer should be similar.

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>>23099521
>Zero interaction with the female side.
Doesn't matter when they can still interact with others outside of Holopro (hence why Roberu and Astel are the most popular). Temma literally told his viewers that he does not want to collab with other vtubers outside of Holostars.
>Also they all speak Japanese.
Nijimales exist

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>>23099602
EOPchama, NijiJP males are doing miles better than holostars...

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>>23099634
Neither Roberu nor Astel embrace being a ladykiller.

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>>23099579
I know he's from black company that treated him like shit. He's still boring as far as solo streams go, never seen any of his collabs because I refuse to watch his fag genmates.

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>>23099634
Someone else here said it perfectly. Women only want men that are taken or are around other women.
It drives the competitive mating instincts.

And the JP Nijimales are nowhere near as successful as the EN Nijimales. Good luck getting the western fujos and gay community speaking 100% Japanese.

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>>23099602
You should do more research

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>>23099634
>Temma literally told his viewers that he does not want to collab with other vtubers outside of Holostars.
Literally 0 contribution to the branch

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>>23099444
Ask yourself why Yuma, despite being the most popular initially, has a lower viewership than Gamma.
Gamma was supposed to be the talented Artist of the group.

[Anonymous No.]

Anime is male space and males love cute girls more than other males. Simple as. The stinky cakes can have the yaoi shit. I ain’t watchin!

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>>23099692
I'll admit his old persona was more interesting yeah. Somehow the holostar boys just don't really cut it for me either

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>>23099779

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>>23099728
are you sure JP Nijimales are doing badly... I'm not just talking about Kuzuha btw, a lot of other JP nijimales do really well and pull 10k+ viewers for streams like Ibrahim, Fuwa, Kagami, Kenmochi etc.

[Anonymous No.]

Holostars to me feel like they are walking on eggshells most of the time. Try comparing Shien's streams to someone like Marine or Miko.

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>>23099444
I feel like they were overshadowed by ID3 since their debut are really close to them

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>>23099444
They are easily replaceable with women. If Cover is going to hire men, then hire males that have male interests.

If you can easily find female chuubas that fill the same niches, don't hire the guy.

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>>23099444
They're men larping as anime boys. There's no market for that.

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>>23099728
Which also sucks because it's a directly conflicting goal.

Female vtubers collabing with men gets them antis and potentially makes them miss out on parasocial paypigs. If they're a GFE type, it ends their whole career.

Male vtubers collabing with women is basically pure benefit for them. NOT doing it is career suicide. There's basically 0 male streamer viewers that care if they collab with females, and fujos are 99% shippers that actively want them to (even if they ship self-insert x talent) and will eventually get bored with them if they don't.

I think that's why so many popular male streamers are ones that have latched on to a particular female streamer early. "Cute interaction between X & Y" clips are a gold mine for clippers, and feeds attention to the male.

Stars don't get any of that, for the most part, so people never get their algorithms pointed to their circle unless they go out of their way to join it themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23099444
They're in an idol company where most of the audience is only interested in cute girls. They never stood a chance.

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>>23099444
They work under a brand that is known for female talents. The average Holo fan won't watch them, they don't benefit from the company's huge audience.

Holofags hate them for being male.
Other fags hate them for being Holo.
They can't win.

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>>23100175
That’s why I thought it was a bad idea for Cover to get jealous of the Nijimales debut and start a new Holostars branch.

Hololive is just different than Niji, and the fans don’t really want the girls to hang around guys all the time.
So Holostars was destined to fail. I thought they would just let the remaining ones stay as legacy vtubers. Don’t know why they invested in more guys.

[Anonymous No.]

Because males can't replicate something as vague like "just be an awesome streamer like kuzuha lol"
So far for males the only meta that has been shown to be replicated successfully is hardcore fujo pandering. Something the stars wont be allowed to do. Maybe StarsEN will have a bit more freedom in how they behave and would be able to dabble into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23099746
But he's done collabs with HoloID.

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>>23100134

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>>23100175
>fujos are 99% shippers that actively want them to (even if they ship self-insert x talent)
>fujos

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>>23100250
Yeah I think this is the main problem. Though they do have a steady audience, being part of Holopro is actually a debuff for them. They'd all do better under Nijisanji.

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>>23099818
The fact that his old persona was witty, sharp, a troll, and foul mouthed, and Fuma talks like a baby and has limited interests, makes me feel like a schizo. They can't be the same. It is so strange. Him of all people wouldn't 1. stoop to this cutesy behavior and 2. debut in a dead end company. He would have just gone indie

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>>23100283
>Something the stars wont be allowed to do

What? Shien and Oga literally did BL roleplay. They're not somehow banned from fujobaiting.

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>>23100250
Yeah and the company originally meant them for the female audience as well when the company was far smaller. They are built to cater to a small subgenre of Hololive JP fans and nothing else. Roberu was the first one to really blow up just due to the Winning Son meme but Cover hasent done anything to move them past the original niche goals for them. Thus even if some of them are cool and could appeal to the greater Hololive fanbase they are arent pushed as anything more.

Hell Arun streams more than anyone else by a huge margin and has enough MC streams that he could be another Moona on the combined MC worlds but because Stars have to be separated hes pretty much always on his own

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that out of 10 people that know what vtubers are, when they hear "holo" 9 will think "live" rather than "stars"

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>>23100414
He doesn't care about numbers, he just joined to fuck Astel.

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>>23100303
Just like how Reine collabed with him. It totally wasn't just a one-time thing to please Ollie or anything.

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>>23100257
I think with Uproar they wanted to see what happened if they debuted with Cover giving half an ass about their branding since the other Holostars they let loose to the wolves. None of them ended up being bullied on debut, but they are also pretty small audiences. Gamma seems like he can eventually build up to Roberu's audience size, but the rest don't really stand out besides Uyu's regular 7 hour+ streams.

Fuma also shares same audience type with Astel which is bad since why would you watch him when Astel is straight up better? Having a limo run around Akiba and having your talents ignore Uproar during 3rd Fes anf then mogged by ID3 is kind of like... what was Cover thinking?

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>>23100540
>what was Cover thinking?
>Cover
>thinking

[Anonymous No.]

Many of them have done fujobaiting(MaFia, Hanakishi, etc). Even Roberu has done so a few times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23100540
The main problem still stands.
- Zero interaction with females
- No EN branch
- No extreme gay fujo baiting

Because of those reasons Holostars just cannot be successful. Hololive will never change on most of that.

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>>23100508
He did a Devour collab with Anya, Iofi, and Aruran, though that was a while ago.

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>>23100609
Doesn't hurt Nijis

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>>23100630
I mean for male streamers Roberu and Astel are doing decent. Shien would probably do better if he streamed more.

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>>23100540
There's been so many times Hololive events overlapped with Holostars ones that I can't help but go schizo and wonder if it's deliberate.

[Anonymous No.]

How to make HolostarsEN a success without hurting the Hololive brand:

Let them collaborate with female vtubers outside of the Hololive ecospace, be it on Twitch or Youtube. That way unicorns are happy that their oshi doesnt talk to a male, and fujos are happy that they can have shipping material for their fanfics.

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>>23100711
Yeah Roberu and Astel do okay.
But they do well despite the situation, and not nearly as well as they would in a Niji type setup.

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>>23100736
From 3rd Fes it's clear most of main branch thinks Holostars are a walking yab. Only Polka was kind enough to actually give a shout out to Uproar's debut during Holofes.

It just kind of sucks since none of them deserved to be treated like that.

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>>23100755
>let them collab with girls to make the fujos happy

Anon do you know what a fujo is?

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>>23099602
oh no no no no, don't tell him anons

[Anonymous No.]

Fire Shien for being lazy
Fire Temma for being retarded
Fire Rikka for being boring
Move Izuru, Uyu, and Rio to Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>23100414
Yeah I was skeptical that they were the same person because their way of speaking is so different too. Fuma's personality really bores me...

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>>23100506
But if he wanted to fuck Astel why did he change his entire personality? It's like two ends of a spectrum almost. If you told me he was going uwaa~ tachukete kudachaii~ in 2018 I would have said you were retarded

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>>23100804
It begs the question again why they made another Holostars branch.

I actually thought maybe they were going to try and push more collabs between the girls and Holostars and that was their plan.
I wouldn’t have been happy about it, but I guess I understood why if that was the reason.
But why another branch with the same shitty strategy as the old Holostars? Bad decision. I guess better than being an indie though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23100873
I just don't buy it, and I am confused if this massive acceptance of his roommate just comes from newfags taking the "black hair new debut = HIM" meme seriously. In both JP and EN.

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>>23100926
>why they made another Holostars branch
JP unicorns, along with SEA Unicorns are seriously no joke.
Idol culture in Japan probably made them hesitate on mixing the genders

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>>23100926
They get there's an audience for people who want to watch male vtubers, but they have no idea how to market to them. I mean Uproar did do better in debut than 3rd gen by a lot, but I also don't really understand what they were thinking.

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>>23100755
>Let them collaborate with female vtubers outside of the Hololive ecospace
JP stars collab with holoID. With nijis. With Nanashi.

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>>23099444
Their core audience are mentally ill that hate women but only watch Hololive. And they refuse to pander to anyone else.

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>>23101283
Roberu is also Animare's sex toy and has the thing going with Mea.

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>>23100175
>>23100257
>>23100630
You guys know that the holostars are free to collab with non-holo members right? The holo girls are the complete extent of vtuber girls who are are off-limits to them, so they are 100% free to collab with literally every other vtuber who currently has an active channel.

Also GFE types are not as common as you think, especially if your definition for GFE is "no male interactions". Other than hololive, honeystrap, and maybe some independent ones here and there, I can't think of many strict "no male" gfe vtubers at all.

If we look at all of the vtubers who currently exist, holostars are probably in the top 5% when you measure by total subscribers. There are boatloads of vtuber girls, with sub 50k subscribers, who would be elated if they could get a collab with one of the boys. It would be perfect for publicity.

Also why don't they collab with niji girls? There are tons of them. Surely they're allowed to right?

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>>23101571
Uhhh Roberu collabs with Ryushen rarely and she is 1/2 of a girl

[Anonymous No.]

Holostars survive by saviourfagging and not by talent and hard work.
I'll be waiting for StarsEN to see if they'll be a change or if they're going to boring lazy fags carried sympathy (like shien).

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>>23101571
Shien has done collabs with Tomoe from Nijisanji.

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>>23101571
>Also why don't they collab with niji girls?
Aruran collabed with Ange and his sisters.

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>>23100804
>polka
She gets help from script writer. Also she is pretty unity. Even talking about some of the homos collab merch.

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Nobody cares homostar

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>>23102899
Yes. You'd know that that's the point of this thread if you could read English

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>>23102663
She is friends with several of the stars.

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>>23101808
Roberu works really hard. He streams sometimes twice a day and streams pretty often, puts a lot of effort into networking, and somehow ranked highest in Vsaiyko despite not being confident in FPS skills. He even got into the Arc Revo tournament.

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>>23103050
this board is overrun by indog and spic numberfags who can't read English now, usually only the vtuber generals are better quality

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>>23103149

Im a pretty big fan of Aruran and the last time I checked he actually streamed more than Peko and Miko which is fucking insane

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>>23099444
I think HolostarsEN would actually do okay as long as it isn't some neckbeard voicing it

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>>23101571
HoneyStrap doesn't have a no males policy.

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>>23101571
Well there's that branch on noripro that strictly no boys collab allowed. Also, Roberu collabed with all kinds of people, Astel is well-known with FPS vtubers, Rikka have contact with some vsingers, and Arusan been doing his networking reps, but still this board always blame the lack of hololive collab for holostars' lack of success despite they were in the top 5% even with their horrible start

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>>23103277
His flow cover is actually really good. His rap style is chill instead of tryhard.

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>>23103426
Their horrible start was and still is Cover's fault. They have plenty of talent between them to be decent streamers, but have to deal with Cover's schizo promotion.

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>>23099444
lot of problems.
>small sample size
>lack of attention from cover
>no EN
hololive didn't reach its apex in popularity until EN debuted, which gave them mass international appeal.

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>>23101571
>You guys know that the holostars are free to collab with non-holo members right?
I've been a Holostars fan for two years, and I seriously doubt that. Cover doesn't restrict the stars as much the holos, but they'll still put some restriction for collabs outside of a select group of vtubers who are deemed "safe to collab without prior notice"

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>>23104117
Safe like Mea and Itou Life?, obviously they have managers and stuff but I think that's mostly a formality and they can collab with almost anyone as long as they tell management first, I could easily see Roberu collab with someone like DWU

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>>23104410
Yeah, that's what I meant, they need to get permissions first. That's easy for collabs planned in advance like the ones Roberu do, but harder for the impromptu FPS collabs that Astel wishes he could do

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>>23100755
>fijos
>shipping male and female vtubers
I'm going to start calling every single poster on this board a /u/fag just because they like female vtubers.

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>>23099728
>Women only want men that are taken or are around other women.
shu...

[Anonymous No.]

Anon, you evolutionary behavior reps... There are some people in this thread that really just read one paragraph of a wikipedia article and now they think they know about how desirability in human sexuality works

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>>23099444
Why does SideM unpopular? Why does Argonavis unpopular? Why there's no male love live?

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>>23104909
Why? What about stuff like Touken Ranbu and the hundreds of sports anime we get every year?

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>>23105004
Tourabu is dying sis we are in the age of jjk

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>>23099444
Hololive fans do not want to watch men. Even when hololive JP was huge outside of Japan, most people didn’t watch the stars. Some of them like Aruran even pandered directly to them and still didn’t get that big.
Stars EN is going to be a huge mistake that will run off more fans than it will take in. Maybe if they seized the opportunity to make the first corporate male EN vtubers when they had the chance they could have succeeded, but they failed to do that.

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>>23105004
Because touken ranbu never part of existing female franchise you dumbo.

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>>23104909
>sideM, argoflopis
>side branches of female character dominated IPs
>touken ranbu, haikyuu, free
>standalone male character dominated IPs
?

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>>23105102
>side branches of female character dominated IPs
And that is Holostars

[Anonymous No.]

>>23104909
very wise
NijiJP would be like Project Sekai while Holostars are basically Argonavis

[Anonymous No.]

>>23099444
Character design aren't that good, the streamers themselves aren't that good. Lack of a chuuba who has both design+personality. Niji has those like Kuzuha, Kanae, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Akina, etc. Best looking Holostars also happen to be some of the most dull like Rikka and Temma.
>>23105038
>Maybe if they seized the opportunity to make the first corporate male EN vtubers when they had the chance they could have succeeded
Doubt that. Watch Niji for dudes and Holo for girls.
>>23105044
How are Touken Ranbu and Kantai doing these days compared to modern shit?

[Anonymous No.]

If people wanted to watch men they would just watch regular streamers

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>>23103426
>Astel is well-known with FPS vtubers
No, he isn't. At least not with the more relevant FPS vtubers.
>somehow ranked highest in Vsaiyko
Because the community tourneys have a point system to make their teams. For this year's Vsaikyo, his carry was Sumire and the other teammate was Lisa. Sumire won the first two CR Cups but she was the shitter in her teams and got carried in those like how most lower point chuubas did/are supposed to in Vsaikyos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23100175
>>23099728
You both need to actually interact with women who are into this stuff. Have none of you actually interacted with a NijiEN male fan outside of this site?

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>>23105404
Kuzuha, Kanae, Neo Porte and most of Vspo know about Astel, if they haven't already interacted with him

[Anonymous No.]

If holoEN ends up like nijiEN once stars come in I'm dropping the whole thing. Lucky the small corpo that added dudes is dying so the other small ones should be safe for awhile.

[Anonymous No.]

They are Hololive's dlc for Holofags who might wanna check out male chuubas or getting bored with only female chuuba. Cover consider them as side business and test subject for their new tech. Numberwise they are doing well as a side project with small but very dedicated viewerbase. I see no problem with them at all, looks like they are doing well having Cover backup and other income sources. Some of them doing as a hobby and it's okie.

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>>23104839
I didn’t know people watched pewdiepie because of sexuality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23105404
Vsaikyou S2 Robert actually done better than Aqua

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>>23105307
If people wanted to watch women they would just watch chaturbate

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>>23100023
Don't really know why they decided to debut ID3 so close to Uproar when anyone with half a brain would know Uproar would get overshadowed, maybe they wanted to try and recreate the ID1 and Trinero bond but who knows how that will go and as far as I have seen it doesn't seem like ID3 will go that way.
Though it is funny how, when it came to generating hype and attention on the debuts, the phrase "Less is More" fits quite well here, kek.

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>>23106896
Because there's part of cover that hates Holostars

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>>23104410
Cover strategy is leeching when they are small and starting to ghost the small partners when they get big

[Anonymous No.]

They are too safe and seiso, and have no variety or comedy bits to their activities, save for maybe Roberu, this kind of traditional idols are simply not in demand anymore, even Holo girls for the most part don't act like that hence why they became popular in the first place.
When Oga said that he couldn't play NKOdice because of muh bad words, I laughed. Also, Uproar is literally nothing but a bunch of Rikka clones.

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>>23109799
You haven't watched them enough if you think they're too safe and seiso.

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>>23110051
You haven't watched other vtubers and nip streamers if you think that they aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is just like Reddit posts about Holostars, one is full of collab beggars who don't watch them, and the other is full of unicorns wannabes who don't watch them. Both should kiss

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>>23109799
Also, I take back Roberu being funny either, his whole shtick "oh my gad, I'm being sexually harassed by the trap and 774 girls!?!?" is the same shit as ever, couldn't even banter with Mea either, since he is a fucking pussy.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait for the EN branch to just imitate Vox

[Anonymous No.]

>>23110583
And fail miserably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23110287
Hi domo clipwatcher san!

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>>23110653
Oh tenfold. Vox's voice can be replicated (plenty of Brits) but his energy and autistic focus can not. They'll likely get a bunch of Shu tier types with no redeeming qualities to define the group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23110672
I watched the stream, but cope. You can go find me a timestamp of any collabs with Tamaki where he talks back without awkwardly denying any female's advances.

[Anonymous No.]

>[Retarded bullshit here]

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>>23110653
I may fail but i will be able to fuck all HoloEN girls, I'd call it a fair trade off.

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>>23099444
Funny, posts like these suddenly appeared when Millie just got her recent oopsie today.

[Anonymous No.]

Are all those holostars threads outside of the general AI generated? All of the replies look and read the same like it was written by the same person,and they probaly don't even watch any holostar,OP pretty much typed "holostar members" on google and picked the first image that appeared,why do you people care about their numbers so much anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23110770
>with Tamaki
Literally the one that just happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23117040
HoloEN management has been astroturfing /vt/ for months now to try and build support for StarsEN

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>>23099521
They get less attention from interacting with Hololive than with the broader vtuber scene. You don't need to be a numbersfag to see how little Rikka got from Spiral Tones while Roberu and Astel blew up in popularity because they started interacting with other agencies, with the former managing to reach ID levels of viewership.

>>23100451
>because Stars have to be separated
That's 100% on the Hologirls and the fact that nobody championed for a new, co-ed server. There's 0 chance they will ever link the Hololive server with Holostars because more than half of the girls would veto this, and nobody who is interested in it pitched the idea for a new server where anyone from Holopro could play on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23118268
If they petitioned for a co-ed server would management even okay that? Knowing Cover they would shoot that down too.

EN paid for their own server and there were still yabs like Kiara having to ban Huke.

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>>23100283
>Something the stars wont be allowed to do
Can you stop talking about shit out of your ass?

>>23118568
I know nothing about EN paying for their own server, but if this is true there's nothing stopping them from doing the same if management can't provide one.

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>>23118811
The point was even with EN paying for their own server, management was on their ass over who was allowed. I don't think Cover will okay a co-ed server.

And yeah the EN server was a Realms server that Myth was paying for.

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>>23118983
>I don't think Cover will okay a co-ed server.
Why not? There's enough Hologirls who are probably fine with the idea and it's better than linking the servers and involving those who don't want to interact with the Stars. The problem is that they need a champion for it, but both sides would rather sit on their asses and do nothing about it.

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>>23119150
Because their whole branding for Hololive is a walled garden and they've been more strict with that the past year. Especially with Rushia blowing up from male contact, they probably don't want open male/female association. They ignore ID because they've always ignored ID, but JP and EN are pretty clamped down upon.

They're so anal that even in Hololive collabs have to get management approval.

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>>23099444
that avatar is already boring as hell.

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>>23099444
They're doing fine without you and your reddit concernfagging, no need to bring that shit here. Another merch collab was announced just today and they get this stuff practically every other week. They don't need saving from /vt/ and the other threadreaders here who don't watch streams anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>23119326
Then Fubuki, Matsuri, Rrat and Mori aren't part of this walled wall, right? The collab ban with the Stars ended more than 2 years ago, it's just that the majority of Hololive doesn't care about them. As much as schizos and reddit saviourfags want you to believe they want to collab with the guys but "*insert anything from Cover to gachikois here* are stopping them" I can guarantee you this is absolutely not true.

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>>23119830
It's been a long time since Fubuki and Matsuri did a collab with Holostars. Rrat doesn't count because she only goes when dragged in by ID which has happened a total of two times. Mori's only collab ever were the two collabs with Rikka to promote Spiral tones and the appearance at her birthday live.

The closest thing to a new collab has been Suisei using AsuIzu as background singers in a new song. Even Astellie is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23120063
And you believe this is all Covers fault?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23120190
It's capitalism fault, look how much bigger numbers Miko and Subaru get after they drop their male friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>23121673
Then we can agree that Cover has nothing to do with this and it's just the girls' choice to not interact with the Stars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23120063
Fubuki and Suisei did one a couple months ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>23120063
>It's been a long time since Fubuki and Matsuri did a collab with Holostars
Anon, the last FOXDEMON collab was barely two months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

Not fujo/yumepandering.
Japanese women actually have millions of mediums from which to get their malewank unlike western women. They don't have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get anything of "substance".

[Anonymous No.]

>>23120063
Anon Azki and Rikka gonna have collab very soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>23100175
>If they're a GFE type, it ends their whole career.
dyrbi

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>>23099444
Lack of talent, boring. Their competitors are talented and entertaining. They don't earn enough money for Cover to use it's bot-farms on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23101571
>If we look at all of the vtubers who currently exist, holostars are probably in the top 5% when you measure by total subscribers. There are boatloads of vtuber girls, with sub 50k subscribers, who would be elated if they could get a collab with one of the boys. It would be perfect for publicity.
Doesn't matter.
We're not judging them by taking ALL of the Vtubers into consideration. We're judging them within that "5%" and out of that "5%" they're at the bottom of the barrel when by all intents and purposes they should not be. By those standards, they're failures, and no matter how much you cope it won't change the fact.
2nd best in the world means you're still a loser.

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>>23125795
Technically they are the most popular male vtuber idol group

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>>23124411
Because every single big streamer is extremely talented and/or entertaining for people who have more than 2 working brain cells, right?

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>>23120063
Matsuri played with Roberu in some pre-Vsaikyou customs, he joined her from playing solo as well, so it wasn't a planned collab.

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This post >>23119430 with a crying wojak attached to it

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>>23128071
Got banned enough times that you're now scared?

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I read about a month back on /hlg/ that some of the requirements for HomoEn on their application is for them to be able to play a more scripted personality. Perhaps this is why HomoEn is far more boring than something like NijiEn's males? The girls from HoloLive can incorporate these things within their character because nobody bats an eye and everyone is more curious about them than they would be with men who have to put up a fake personality.

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>>23099969
>>23124411
These
>>23126628
Watch other streamers for once.

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>>23100368
What does the reddit frog have to do with that?

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>>23126628
Yes. Or has tits.

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>>23099444
It's the penis.

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>>23128382
>>23099817

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>>23128309
>Watch other streamers for once.
You can do better, anon.

>>23128277
Are you from the future? Because there's no StarsEN yet.

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>>23099444
When you work in entertainment, you either need to have tits or a personality.
If you don't have either; you're screwed.

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They're just boring as hell honestly. Their solo stuff is bland and they don't have any chemistry as a group, older gens have known each other for years but their interactions during the collabs feel like they're meeting for the first time and have nothing to talk about. They also don't do fujo pandering enough for women to care about them and aren't entertaining enough to hold a male audience. Because they're not interesting enough for local viewers, they're stuck with a bunch of foreigners who have no idea what they're saying as their fans futher scaring japanese people from watching them.

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>>23128277
Roberu dropped his keifabe immediately after his first stream.
>>23128966
I think he meant homoJP

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>>23129602
No, I'm pretty sure he's full of shit considering he compared a non-existent StarsEN with NijiEN.

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As others ITT have already pointed out,
they
are
so
fucking
boring
I understand liking Astel, Roberu, Oga, and Gamma. But the others feel like bags of sand needing to be dragged. I’ll give Aruran a pass for his hard work.

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Only 2 of them are pulling their weight and Gamma is shaping up to be their third.

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>>23099692
Gamma...

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>>23126400
Because they are pretty much the only male vtuber idol group