/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>23015557

Thanks for everyone who joined the stream! I'm sorry for the lag at the end, unfortunately something happened with my internet :( But I hope it was fun regardless!!

Got my model commissioned, The ETA for full rigging will be around end of May. Will try to get some PNG streams beforehand, too. Wish me luck lads.

>>22997564
Been streaming for ~10 months, tend to sit somewhere between 4 and 10 CCV, 30 day average is 6, 7 day is 8.
Took me six weeks to get affiliate, but the hard part was the followers - I pretty much exclusively played CK3, Skyrim, or Stardew Valley. Not great games for getting people to pay attention to you... But I like those games, so eh.

>>22985480
I want to make anime frens to play vidya with and have people look up to me.

>>23034636
I like where your mind is at Turok fren. When I finally get started I hope I can help you reach your goal.
t. programmer wanting to make a Turok weapon mod for UT99.

>>23035324
Wrong reply my friend

>>23035363
Fuck. He'll recognize himself anyway.

the disproportionate amount of babis in this thread skews my perception of how many babis are actually out there

>>23035452
They're usually hard to spot because they're at the bottom when sorted high/low and never in my recommended. There's maybe 2 or 3 well known ones with audiences but there's plenty out there

Any word on the Niji auditions so far? My unlisted got a few full length views but I'm assuming this far into the month without hearing anything probably means I got passed over.

being a babi just seems like a debuff, you're better off just trying to pull off a cute guy vtuber

>>23034717
I honestly think Skyrim can be a great game to get viewers on. Not a lot but definitely dedicated people who will turn up. Especially if you play modded.

>>23035857
Vetting and consideration process can take a while for large companies. I would expect at least a month to hear anything back.

>>23035867
This has been said here too many times already. You can't reason with the babis. Their goals are beyond reasoning at this point

>>23034717
How much marketing/networking did you do in those 10 months?

>>23034717
Yeah you're really not doing good, but what matters is that you enjoy what you do. If you start playing shit you don't like and spend all your time on socials just to TRY to push your numbers it will just drain you without even necessarily showing results for it.

>>23035867
Most are either trying to prove something or don't care enough about numbers to do anything else.

It's probably frowned upon to use scripts, right? But people probably script things out to sound more natural and not stall so much. Is that true or likely to be true?
I mean scripting out responses to certain kinds of chat stuff or stories to tell to lighten the mood. Obviously keeping up the illusion of natural conversation is always important.

How exactly do I

>>23037407
Most successful streamers script certain bits, yes. It's extremely common.

>>23037407
depends on what you mean by script.
if you mean, actually reading word for word exactly what you want to say, I wouldn't say it's bad but might seem unnatural if you're JUST reading from it.
if you mean keeping notes on topics you want to talk about, go for it.
end of the day, you're basically an entertainer, and having a proper train of thought for a story or bit is going to help

>>23037466
That's what I figured, yeah.
>>23037486
I mean I give presentations in college too. It's not uncommon to script out the presentation and rehearse it and if the time is short it's not a grade killer to take peeks at flash cards to remind yourself what is next. So like that except for things like responses to stuff that might get too personal or would be better for a more in character response. Or if chat is dead or needs a topic change using a totally true story that totally happened the other day.

>>23037407
Many popular streamers script bits and topics of conversation. It actually helps a lot so dont be afraid to do it as long as you don't make the delivery sound shit

Anons. Can I get a moment of silence for my animation commission that canceled. Was charged 400 for and after two months I have 2 seconds of footage I've seen. That's with the artist going Mia for 1 month. Had to hit them with a charge back. Never feels good bros

>>23035867
does this mean that 1 in 3 vtubers are babis?

>>23035867
I don't understand what's so wrong with just being a normal guy? they don't have to pander to fujos or anything. they're just coomers and trannies who want a model they can coom to even if it makes everyone around them uncomfortable

>>23037737
Animation is always tricky because nobody can actually do it. Even for pros it takes a long time and doesn't pay well. Cheap 3D animation is less of an issue.

>>23037904
>even if it makes everyone around them uncomfortable
I didn't realise it was such a widespread desu. Every time I tune into some indie chuuba and they've got some cow tits coomer model, it's just a guy, and it's so off putting.
When I'm watching chuubas, I want to at least believe that the avatar IS the person, but can't when this happens because it's distracting.
Like, does it buff clicks? Probably. Retention? I doubt it.

>>23037904
Just coomers, credit where credit is due. You can be both though but I knew a trans person that wanted to be a guy vtuber for some contrarian reason. In the end it shouldn't matter who is behind the character though, actual AI will take over streaming entertainment within the decade.

>>23037904
>even if it makes everyone around them uncomfortable
This is such an exaggeration. Literally just don't interact with them.

>>23037407
>presentations in college
Yeah, pretty much like presentations, you always want to have your main points summarized in your slides while you tell a story based on those slides.
Think of scripts as something that help you to structure your thoughts and stories, it's very useful if you're the type to blabber on and on getting into endless tangents.
Talking endlessly isn't the problem for most people, delivering a well structured story is. It's why you would find old ladies gossip to be infuriating because they just talk endlessly and don't structure their stories

captcha: n4tty

>>23038069
>actual AI will take over streaming entertainment within the decade.
Elon don't you have Twitter to worry about?

>>23038171
In the field of AI nobody really takes Elon seriously for what it's worth. Just consider voice changers though, but AI that maps one input voice to an output voice is already old. It just needs widespread commercial adoption and then people will all use that instead of voice changers. Eventually all of it will be replaced with tech.

>>23038069
>trans
>person

>>23037801
I feel that's different, when I play a female character I would detach myself a bit more from the character. Like it's something I'm looking at, but not a representation of myself.

>>23037904
would prefer having a female character cuz i would get more porn i could actually fap too if porn were made, vs a male character who would only get lewded by fujos and gays.
so using a male vtuber is technically gayer than using a female vtuber.

>>23038294
Okay but you better keep that to yourself if you actually want to make it. There was that one streamer recently that was saying enbies were just pretending to be trans, and he got shitcanned off of Twitch.

>>23037904
Ignore the babis and just avoid them, they're doing it for fun so that's all you can expect out of them.

>>23036590
Yeah, I see new faces when I try it. The problem with Skyrim is that it's a game everyone's played a lot, and the playthroughs are long (think 10+ streams) if you want to do everything. This means someone jumps in, and you're already at level 25, and have the injokes.

>>23037177
Not as much as I should. I spend time chatting on twitter and discord, but I'm also really bad at actually interacting with people without purpose. I don't tend to randomly DM people to chat about stuff, which hurts my networking a lot.
This does end up being a spiral though - it's basically just a blind DM to someone, because we don't have the chat to reach out and say "how was [thing] you did last week?", because we didn't talk about it in the first place.

>>23037324
thanks, I guess?
But yeah, I've only changed the planned game once during a stream (hadn't realized it was a mobile port), other than longer events; and I've only missed two streams. One due to severe illness, one due to burnout in my dayjob. I look forward to streaming, it's sort of my time off.

>>23037904
I have low self-esteem and I don't feel like a pretty boy.
It would be wrong for me to use an anime guy model.

>>23038581
But you feel like a pretty girl? Or is it just too distanced from yourself that you don't relate and feel awkward?

>>23038370
No one said anything about being gay, just that you're either a coomer or a closeted tranny

>>23039190
>I wanna be the little girl
Jokes aside yeah, a babiniku is obviously a character and not linked to me in real life.

>>23039223
A lot of trans vtubers do use big breasted characters too but most people in general seem to do that.

>>23039414
Yes, and most chronically online and weeb trannies are just massive coomers who use it as an outlet for their fantasies. You think it's a coincidence that most of them choose extremely oversexualized characters and personas instead of the type of design a lot of biological women pick? You rarely see just normal themed vtuber tranny, they're almost always massive breasted oversexualized succubi or some kind of sex demon.

https://youtu.be/ZY8HmvEkzEM
I tried being a bit more high energy last night, but I think I kept on sinking back down to that quiet/low-energy voice
Also still got that mush mouth going but tried enunciating better.
Maybe it might help if I stream earlier? But then it gives me no time for prep.

>>23037904
It's quite fascinating to me that people feel so cheated clicking on a babi stream that they must complain about it somewhere else, instead of just clicking away. Just ask the streamer, if you are so curious to know. There's like a million chuubas out there and surely you'll find enough that cater to your interests.

I can overgeneralize too and say that from my point of view, making you uncomfortable sounds to me like you came to my stream wanting to jerk off to a girl chuuba and i personally wouldn't want that even if when i use a male model and you're female. Which is why i made sure my male model has zero coom potential.

But i know this isn't true, i can understand why viewers feel uncomfortable with a voice that doesn't match the model outside of coomer reasons and that's fine.

>>23039652
I guess that doesn't really apply to me.

>>23039974
>no time for prep.
I mean... What are you prepping in the hour or so before stream? Could you prep it the day before, or is it stuff that needs doing at that moment?

>>23039974
Also I think a part of the problem is that 1) I’ve always been a quiet person for some reason, and 2) I live in a basement apartment of a family with something like 3-4 kids (although they seem to stay up late half of the time anyway) so I don’t like making noise at night maybe? I’ve never been in trouble for anything though.

>>23037801
They're just horny, anon.

>>23038581
>pretty boy
You people do realize these aren't your only options, right? There's plenty of male characters out there. There's also plenty of more stylized routes as well. You're not stuck between choosing shota, pretty bishounen, or rippling adonis. There's always been other types you're just too hung up on the bishounen idea.

>>23040181
>zero coom potential in an attractive, muscular anime man
Talk about clueless, eh?

>>23040240
A lot of it is setting up my console again since I have 0 space for keeping my switch dock next to the PC, I have to make sure that my HD60 S is working right
I had to actually restart last night because I had a weird graphics driver crash while trying to fix my HD60 S showing a black screen with a crackling noise in OBS, which itself was fixed with an replug.
I think most of the time last night ended up being just making sure everything was set up right, I did do some prep work last night though.
Time to go get a travel dock…

>>23039652
I mean you're not wrong but there are also a few non-trans women that use big breasted characters. I guess now you mention it I don't think it's the character that makes the difference. It's the thirst and self-thirst and having a personality that is thirsting over other vtubers but being weirded out by their own audience. A normal vtuber with a sexy model usually plays along more with the audience and directs less thirst to their own model and to other vtubers. That's what I noticed.

>>23034528
https://github.com/yeemachine/kalidokit
Please add this to the software category.

>>23040871
If someone really wants to doink my male character then they must be pretty lonely but i guess that's what fuels the chuuba machine to begin with, i honestly was surprised that one of the first reaction /here/ was some guy jerking off to the admiral, because i sure as hell never did.

What kind of fanart would you like to see of yourself?
For me, it’s split between different takes on my design andcute persocom/AI girl (boy) mode

>>23041491
why are you acting like you designed some disgusting leper? it's an attractive male character same as any other attractive female character. sounds like you're stuck on "only bishounen are attractive" mindset other /asp/ies are.

>>23041491
You fundamentally do not understand people.

Be yourself anon. Do not let them groom (you).

>>23041749
The only grooming that anyone is going to do to me is a new hairstyle

>>23041659
Not quite, but he's lacking features that would support his attractiveness. But then again >>23041721 is probably right. I guess we'll see how things turn out when i switch models, but I don't expect to get a large following based on viewers simping for my model.

What are some good tips on avoiding certain people?

Obviously you don't want to cause a scene or spark any drama but there are people you might want to avoid. So lets say there are some scenarios:
1. One of those succubus vtubers raids you.
2. You notice a dramawhore is in your chat or watching you.
3. You can an unwanted collab request.
4. The collab is with someone you're ok with but it's a multiple vtuber collab and someone who is no good.
5. Another vtuber is spreading rumors about you or telling others not to work with you.
6. There are fabricated twitlongers about you by influential indie vtubers.
7. You get followed or subbed to by a vtuber that hates your viewer account or was horrible to you in your viewer account.
8. Someone asks what happened between you and a vtuber that is causing drama.

I know the guide says just don't engage but that wont always work and it means you can afford to take a small L to recover later. But many times you can't afford to keep taking an L if it persists.

>>23041531
Personally, I want to see my fanart be comfy, with other chuub's that I'm friends with. Slice of life stuff would be great. Just hope I didn't overcomplicated the design for that...

>>23042645
Yeah I want to see that too. Don't be alarmed but I am a 38 year old man don't be scared or tell anybody or the admins. I would like to be friends and Vtubers with you if you're fine with that I am 38 years old from Florida.

People seethe over babis so much but the "you should just use a male vtuber" is such a fucking lie. If it were a male vtuber you would never have clicked on it in the first place and if it were an actual female voice, regardless of the quality of content, you would be gushing over it. This discussion is so disingenious.

>>23035867
>>23037904
An anon from the previous thread said something that made me really think. Why don't babis choose to be trap femboys instead? The end result is the same because they would get that cute girl aesthetic and coomer audience, and also trap vtubers would be much more of a hit

>>23042920
People are usually about, what would it be, 10% of people that comment at all? And people that comment at all are about 10% of the population engaged with vtubing.

>>23041531
I would love to see fanart of stream moments or crossovers with vtubers I like and interact with. Most of the art I make myself is silly jokes or alternate costumes.

>>23043808
Someone should draw bodysuit anon/Azu (me) driving into walls 148 times Not every single time, but like a 4koma or something

Alright swallowing my pride.

Any tips towards getting past affiliate hell. I hover 5-10 viewers on streams and have a few regulars who like to pop in.

Can't draw but I do know how to video edit. Primary play league of legends with a little bit of variety sprinkled here and there. Not quite sure how to grow past this. I have a consistent schedule as well, and I'm pretty stuck.

>>23042586
>1. One of those succubus vtubers raids you.
Say "thank you for the raid, hope you had a good stream, let's shout you out here! Welcome everybody, nice to see you all"
>2. You notice a dramawhore is in your chat or watching you.
You shouldn't be checking your viewer list, because it doesn't help at all. If someone's in your chat and breaking rules, ban/timeout them. If they haven't yet, just let them be.
>3. You can an unwanted collab request.
"Sorry, I only collab with people I know/am friends with. Maybe in the future if we continue to vibe well"
>4. The collab is with someone you're ok with but it's a multiple vtuber collab and someone who is no good.
"Sorry, I'm not good with huge collabs." or even just "thanks for the offer, but not this time"
>5. Another vtuber is spreading rumors about you or telling others not to work with you.
Ignore them. Don't address them unless you get a twitlonger or specific callout. If it's just closed-door rumours, let it lie.
>6. There are fabricated twitlongers about you by influential indie vtubers.
Ignore it. You can try and fight against it, but if it's all fabricated, it's hard to prove it's not real.
>7. You get followed or subbed to by a vtuber that hates your viewer account or was horrible to you in your viewer account.
Why the fuck do you have a viewer account? Are you a holo?
>8. Someone asks what happened between you and a vtuber that is causing drama.
Either tell the truth, "I don't know anything about it", or "I'd really like to avoid any drama"

Best bet in most situations is to either say schtum, or say as little as possible. You don't need to provide explanations or reasons, just a "No thank you", or "I didn't know" is usually sufficient.

>>23045588
What's stopping you getting out of "affiliate hell". Sounds like you're already in a decent enough position. Is it follower count, number of streams?

Or do you just want to grow bigger? In which, what makes you think this place has any idea what we're on about?

>lost track of stream time last night
>went on way later than I wanted
>actually got decent numbers compared to my usual 2viewing
>check analytics
>vast majority only showed up like 2 hours in
Piss, I don't want to ruin my sleep schedule over this but that seems to be the most reliable way to get viewers

>>23045713
i did some analysis of people who started streaming around when i did. male and female. male models, female, babi, animals. png, vroid, l2d...
if you streamed longer, you had more viewers. simple as. no matter if model was amazing l2d with jiggle physics and sex voice, or sovlful mspaint crap with nerd voice.
longer streams = more viewers.

Which VTuber you watch for dead air practice?

>>23045588
Do you mean becoming an affiliate or becoming a partner? Because partner is a meme at this point.

>>23045651
Problem with rumors is that it will affect you. Fighting it isn't an option but addressing it would still be better. Even if you just say something like you don't know why they're saying things and you've never had that kind of interaction with them. Leaving rumors alone has not helped me in the past.

>>23045705
Want to hit a partner, grow bigger, maybe make this a career. Realize that this will probably give me more fulfillment than the career my shitty ass bachelors will give me.

On a deeper level, I plan on going the Corpo route and need to be bigger as an indie, or else I'm ngmi past the application phase.

My nijisanji application doesn't even have a single view XD.

>>23046527
Why is it a meme?

>>23046370
Any vtuber that doesn't have dead air, I guess? I don't watch dead air chuubas, even the 2 views are watch are good that.

The best way I found to improve your dead air is to just talk to yourself and try to keep a conversation going for 10 minutes or so regularly

>>23046541
If you're small, then your best bet might be to re-incarnate. If you've got a following, ignore it.
Look at Miilkyways and Bunghole. Both basically rode out the sex pest accusations and came out mostly okay, apart from losing the rich Frenchman.

>>23046668
Affiliates have follower emotes, animated emotes, plenty of emote slots. There is no larger cut. So what do you want?

>>23046856
Rumors invite every schizo out of the woodwork to scrutinize and re-interpret everything you do and say. Other people larping professionalism will remain neutral publicly but will privately side against you. Putting the stress and discomfort of working in that atmosphere aside the bigger problem is losing support from your peers which you can survive if you're huge. If you're small then you're taking a hit and probably a financial hit if you need a new model and everything. None of which guarantees you a fresh start.

>>23035867
I don't want to draw porn of cute guy vtubers though.

>>23040765
Anything with hair is too pretty.

>>23041491
Admiral is pure sexo.

>>23041749
What if I groomed a female viewer? How do I not get cancelled?

Thank you for being my main source of motivation, /asp/.
Really, it's the /asp/ies that motivate me more than any other vtubers. Seeing you guys create engaging content with even less resources than I have helps me stop coping and making excuses and makes me push myself harder.

>>23041531
I'd like to see alternate costumes, was thinking formal suit and glowie, also art of my babi version

Bumpu

Recently I've been thinking about fucking Konrad's witch while he watches, like cats do.

What’s the main differences between the Elgato HD60 S vs the 4K60 Pro, other than one is a USB capture device and the other is PCIe.

If you had the chance to give Azu a completely new 2nd outfit after they debut their live2d, what would it be?

>>23042920
You do realize that there are reverse babis that debuff themselves using male models despite being a girl, right?

>>23046229
Diminishing returns for viewers start at around the 4 hours mark. Streaming more and longer hours isnt really the solution but regularly streaming at least 4 hour chunks 3 times a week is the minimum you can do as a hobbyist in order to grow.

>>23053092
They are EXTREMELY rare.

>>23046229
>>23053180
oof, I guess I really am debuffing myself with my two hour streams. I usually get disheartened after an hour or so of putting my best face forward to an audience of no one.

>>23053344
Turn off numbers retard

>>23053482
Not trying to numberfag, but my goal is to at least have a chat to talk to and engage with.

>>23051469
Cannan caman

>>23052588
Konrad's witch is kinda hot

>>23053647
This is the training ground. Most of my regulars are heavy lurkers, watching while doing other things. If you can keep it up for 4 hours without chatters, getting an active chat will feel like a superpower.

>>23053092
>You do realize that there are reverse babis that debuff themselves using male models despite being a girl, right?
Less guys will click on her stream but after that it literally does not matter as long as the voice is female. Completely irrelevant if its a femboy model as well.

>>23041749
what if I wanted to get groomed?
t. viewer

>>23043159
if i put myself in their shoes, being a babi feels like a massive disconnect from your avatar since you have absolutely 0 in common with it. you are being a babi purely for the aesthetics of wanting a cute avatar like anime profile pics of anime girls. basically its 100% for visual appeal and not for reflecting who you are and most audiences know this

however if you use a trap or cute dude, you can now be associated with all the male aspects. you might now be seen as a gay or effeminate male and everything you do will be through that lens.

most of the babis here have 0 feminity in their voice and personality outside of azu who would make for a decent trap. basically i think people are unwilling to roleplay and just want visual appeal for themselves like coomers that dress up female characters and use them in mmos

>>23045588
is this minimo? regardless, the only way to grow as a league streamer is to have high rank, or if you do like highly comedic content like trinimortal/sp4zie from way back. i dont think people tune into streams of analytical creators that dont have personality like vars and stuff especially if they arent diamond+

>>23046940
>Affiliates have follower emotes, animated emotes, plenty of emote slots.
affiliate is also the easiest thing to achieve. getting partner means not only is there potential for widestream appeal it means twitch's backend numbers have verified that you have the potential to continue growing. the point isn't emotes its a sign that what you're doing is working to help you grow.

>>23054898
I once had a female character as a mute. Seeing my voice come from the character felt extremely wrong. I don't know how the babis mentally disconnect that.

>>23055625
I.e. it is a meme, so what are you trying to say?

>>23055718
it means

just because you don't understand it and you don't have the numbers to make it, doesn't means you need to crab it in /asp/ and drag the rest of us down with you.

>>23055763
You are the one applying sentiment.

I am saying that chasing after partner is a meme at this point. You should focus on your content, not trying to "escape affiliate hell" like the person above was saying. Stop chasing worthless approval from the soulless corporation and focus on yourself.

Being a 150 viewer partner is not inherently better than being a 150 viewer affiliate.

>>23055763
Not that anon but while I agree that it can be viewed in the way you describe there isn't a good process in place. Twitch decides stuff and therefore it must be good, not that it is good and therefore Twtich decided it was good. So it being an indicator of success if a meme even if it can be a useful meme.

>>23056035
t. 10view affiliate

>>23056035
20 viewer partner*

I'm the retarded anon who thought getting a design/ref sheet from an artist on Skeb who I liked was a good idea. Unfortunately, the deadline is coming up really soon. I've wasted about 2 months doing literally nothing and don't think I'll have anything to show for it since I don't even have a design. At this point I wonder if I should even bother looking into alternative options or accept it as a sign that I'm NGMI.
Don't be a retard like me, don't use Skeb for your ref sheet.

>>23056035
>I am saying that chasing after partner is a meme
>moving goalposts
>>23056183
>Twitch decides stuff and therefore it must be good
wrong. twitch set the number for partner at 75 for a reason. because after years of collecting data and tracking who grows and has the potential to grow, 75 CCV over 30 days is a very good indicator. it's not twitch arbitrarily picking and choosing people to become partner.

AloraVT was embedding views and hit over 100CCV for a long time and still go rejected each time because her numbers weren't real and didn't indicate potential to grow. no matter how many times /wvt/ and the trashcan meme about "just embed lmao" they do their proper checks now to make sure partner is only given to those who have potential to grow.

>Have to call paypal to restore my password
>No balance on my phone cuz it's end of month
AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>23056325
Okay it's wrong because the thought that people still getting partner with less or not partner with more makes you cry. Yet reality is unkind to your view in a just world and an accountable corporation of nimwits. To you they must seem as scientists and egalitarian to the last. You're welcome to that fantasy.

>>23056457
>the thought that people still getting partner with less or not partner with more makes you cry
now you're just projecting

>>23056485
Bezos just said jump. I think it's time for you to jump my friend.

>>23056325
>literally said "becoming a partner" in the first post
>moving goalposts

OK you are just arguing in bad faith here so I'll leave you to it. I've explained my reasoning enough unless you literally don't know what the term "meme" actually means

>>23056292
>I wonder if I should even bother looking into alternative options or accept it as a sign that I'm NGMI.
If you're the least bit serious about this hobby you wouldn't be asking this.

In all seriousness, search for 'character design commission' on twitter to start. Take your time finding an artist you like. Twitter artists have a reputation to uphold so they're not likely to ghost you.

>>23056565
seethe more, 2view. you're just mad that achieving partner now means the streamer has potential to grow. you just don't have what it takes to make it.

>>23056660
are you done?

>>23056325
The Twitch data scientists just finished their analysis. Let me see what does it say. Anon is a fucking moron. Well there we have it, the number crunching proved correct again.

>>23056694
They weren't even testing for that!

>>23056760
It just means that miracles do happen.

Is there an easy way to find out if you have permission to stream a game as an indie?
I suppose it's not too hard if the game's website contains guidelines for streaming, but what about when it doesn't?

>>23056594
I have just had some life changes since I commissioned it that made me question if the time commitment to getting good & building an audience is worth it to me, and being a male with an average burger voice doesn't inspire much self confidence in my ability to get much traction without some serious grinding in that

>>23057125
Most indie games are fine with you streaming their content. It promotes people buying their games for the most part.
If you google "[Game] Streaming Guidelines" and nothing comes up, you are likely fine. The only issue is either with A) Big companies like Nintendo or B) You search above and it says "No streaming".

Not having a no, in this instance, is an implied yes.

>>23056805
>>23056760
>>23056694
>>23056691
/asp/ie crabs in a bucket strikes again! huzzah! no wonder none of you ever make it!

>>23057689
>/asp/ie crabs in a bucket
>none of you ever make it!
you're a fucking hypocrite my dude.

>>23057790
nah that anon has a point. asp crabs are so fucking insufferable, i'm surprised they havent killed themselves from all their time spent uselessly

>>23057790
yeah you showed him! let's keep repeating that partner is just a meme! don't use metrics to ensure your content has broad appeal! don't market yourself! it's all just a meme. the best feedback you can get is the approval of some faggot viewer who never watches you stream saying "based" on an anonymous image board! we did it reddit!

>>23057877
true. but the whole twitch partner 'discussion' was inherently useless and as expected devolved into crabbing again. They're stupid fucks, but yknow pot calling the kettle black thing. Thread ruined for today so I'll just leave.

>>23058021
i didn't participate in your debate, bro.

>>23058100
BASED! BASED! BASED! POG

What timezones do you put on your schedules and announcements?

>>23058379
if you're a burger put it at pacific and eastern
if you're a euro UTC whatever
check your twitch stats to see where most of your audience comes from and set your timezones accordingly

>>23058426
Thanks, I'm from upsidedown land but my audience is a mix of burgers and euros. Guess I'll mix it up.

>>23035867
Let's be honest, being a babi or a normal dude isn't really the first thing a startup chuuba should worry about, social and talking skill are.
When a babi think he have good enough talking and social skill, he will start consider about should he keep this avatar, or go make a male model(or going both, who knows), just like Admiral.

>>23058680
>social and talking skill are.
This. The problem arises because most aspies are open about their lack of social skills and make it clear they're relying on the bait and switch of anime tits to get a click. Their brains can't think more than that step though because they have no plans on how to keep a viewer after they click on a stream expecting girl voice.

>>23057125
This isn't an issue for indies

>>23048776
Achieve your dreams, Anon! I believe in you!

>>23058745
The problem is that early in they think they're actually growing despite a their viewers being other aspies. I've been stuck in that pitfall as well even as a someone using a male avatar. They see their numbers going up and fail to realize they're not "real" viewers. Other chuubas being like 90% of your viewership isn't sustainable and not actually a sign of growth the way having strangers as viewers are.

>>23059320
>they think they're actually growing despite a their viewers being other aspies.
This is an issue beyond aspies, though aspies are the clearest example of this because >we know everyone in the chatroom. This is an issue all around western indies.

It's because everyone keeps parroting "network network network" as a buzzword without really understanding what it means. So they think just talking with other chuubas is the way to grow. Their following lists is filled with follow 4 follow crap, they retweet other chuuba's model reveals and tweets. The worst is they treat everyone like best friends because toxic positivity has infected social media.

The only way to grow is to get real viewers not other chuubas. But that requires putting out content that can be consumed by viewers. Indies don't want to do that so they spend time "networking" with other indies and deluding themselves it's helping them grow. The reality is that every chuuba who does is selfishly wishing it boosts their own numbers on their streams.

Plenty of aspies have already fallen into this. Most of the OG aspies are prime examples too with how much they afk lurk in each others streams desperately trying to boost numbers.

>>23040765
>implying women would watch any of these guys when an ikemen is streaming next door

>>23041749
God bless you.

>>23059575
Networking works when

>you get raided constantly and praised by the streamer as someone to watch
>you stream outside of the times of people who regularly raid and shout you out

Otherwise slow organic growth is the best way to incline because it ensures that you have a solid fanbase behind you. A massive part of being a vtuber is to build a community as well, this is why having a discord and holding community nights help spread word of mouth and to help let more people know about you. Honestly every little thing you do outside your stream adds up and helps introduce yourself to more people, it just takes a long time for organic growth to happen.

>>23059835
>having a discord and holding community nights help spread word of mouth
Protip, don't do this until you have a community. If you open a discord too soon, it's going to die. I don't know why but in every community there's always that one schizo, usually some rich furfag. That furfag will suffocate all the air out of the discord by being active in it 24/7 and making everything about him. He will have a compulsion to respond to everything and anything and kill conversations.

>>23059941
As someone who built communities for other chuubas before the solution is simple.

ban them ASAP, the troublemakers are never worth it

>>23059998
>9998
so close...

I’m only PNG right now, so… I guess I could play some piano or something by using the MIDI controller that I have and post that as content?

>>23060276
Forgot to add
Are there any kinds of music that would be a turn-off in general?
I can think of at least gospel songs and country.
And country gospel.

>>23059823
See? There's your problem, the only strategy you can think of when it comes to Vtubing is "I HAVE TO ATTRACT PEOPLE WITH MY SEXY AVATAR" and nothing to do with a target audience for your actual content. That's why you're stuck thinking you have to either be a babi or something for women to lust over.

>>23060368
>>23060276
Honestly you can do what you like, playing the piano sounds like an amazing skill and putting out songs on youtube would be interesting too if you can. As your songs that are turn-offs, I'd suggest you play to your strengths because the algorithm will try to fit your content to the audience and you might be hitting some unique niches that other vtubers arent hitting just by doing your own special thing.

>>23060276
Piano streams are a good idea, but they probably can't be your primary form of content.

>>23060459
To add to this, the days of having a good avatar=viewers is over and there's a lot of high quality vtubers out there that can barely draw an audience due to their shitty content. The rising stars are all people who manage to make interesting content and it's not because of people coming to watch them due to their "SEXY AVATAR".

daily reminder for aspies to stop collabing if you're under 50 CCV.

What if once my community is big enough to warrant a Discord server I instead make a forum?

>>23060657
I can't even tell you the amount of 5,000 dollar models I see who get less than 15 viewers. There's a babi I saw on my timeline who had an amazing design and model and out of curiosity I looked into their artist and rigger. I just went to double check their prices and, with design, the minimum their avatar cost was 12,000. Granted I'm sure he's got a lucrative job IRL to be able to afford all this and is perfectly comfortable without the money, it just goes to show that you can have all the artist clout and amazing designs you want and with poor content still comes low viewership.

>>23060827
what streaming audiences use a forum over discord?

>>23060827
why?

>>23060748
Collabing under 50CCV is how I got to 25CCV. Collabs are perfectly fine in any circumstance as long as you and your partner have good chemistry and are consistent with it, so typically people you've taken the time to interact with and are friends with off stream.

>>23060953
the concept of collabs are fine but aspies are notorious for making more than half of their streams in a given month as collabs which kills growth for everyone involved.

>>23057352
Thanks, that's pretty useful.
What if you do want to play a game from a big company though?
Let's say you wanted to play a Switch game on stream, what steps are you supposed to go through to find out the policies on streaming that game?
From the few examples I've tried looking at I haven't found any specific instructions for individual Nintendo games, and just assuming that things will be all right if I go ahead and stream it seems like an unnecessary gamble, at least if there actually are guidelines out there that I was just too lazy/stupid to find.

>>23060612
I’m talking more about supplemental content aside from streams.

>>23061031
solution: Dont do collabs on your own channel. Do collabs on others, that's how you get the benefit of people knowing you without burdening your current audience with constant collabs tiring them out on your own channel.

>>23061044
Unless you're a japanese corporate entity, there is 0% need for anyone to ask for permissions or to find them in order to stream. Anyone who seeks to strike your game stream down will receive so much backlash it will destroy them at this point. All games have a carte blanche permission for you to stream.

>>23060936
Seems fun. The audience I seem to attract would probably enjoy it.
>>23060913
I have no delusions as far as that's concerned. Could at least make for a nice April Fool's or something.

>>23061285
>solution: Dont do collabs
stop here.
>>23061392
>The audience I seem to attract would probably enjoy it.
how many streamers do this with success?

>>23060873
Having a top-tier artist/rigger used to be a major buff - they'd build hype, and you'd be part of a small 'family' that build each other.
But there's so many chuubas now, and the artists are all inundated.

>>23035857
Nothing for me and I have a decent presence across social media. Not to be a numberfag but are you relatively big or you smaller?

>>23035857
Im friends with big chuubas (500 ccv) who applied and they havent gotten their applications viewed yet but they applied quite late into the audition. However I hear people who applied super early had their videos viewed.

So I'm guessing they're just scanning through all the auditions at the moment and making a list of who to call for their next part of the interview. Just have to keep on waiting.

>it’s been like a month since my Holo Niji applications
>brain keeps fucking with me
>I keep dreaming that I’ll wake up and my application videos will have more views and will be received positively
please just let me move on brain. I tried and failed, just let me fucking move on

>>23060827
It's not really difficult to do. There are lots of website that allow you to make forums or even 2channel clones for free.

>>23062294
Don't I know it. I grew up posting on phpBB forums.

>>23060748
You're retarded

>>23062473
go back to your crab game collab with your 2view partner that no one watches.

>>23062105
have you started streaming yet or did you just make an application video?

>>23062528
Work has been ramping up, but I started taking singing lessons again. I plan to operate as an utaite and make solo acapella renditions of anime ops/eds. Tomorrow I go in and tell the boss I’d like part time hours so I can focus more on this

>>23062523
I'll figured you were that smar anon spouting random bs with nothing to back it up. Post your channel letd see how good you're doing, why should anyone listen to you with no evidence of your claims buddy.

>>23062825
Not them, but you still haven't streamed? Or put out any videos or anything?

https://voca.ro/1cq9uEGJ0skz
Is my mic a total piece of shit? Is it ok to stream with or should I invest in a new one
Ignore my britishness I only go mega brit when reading

>>23062887
I commentate local vidya tournaments, that’s about as close as I can get since it doesn’t require you prep work on my end. The last few weeks I’ve been wagecucking 6 days a week, and it’s hard labor so I always come home exhausted. It’s why I’m really gonna tell my boss I need different hours

>>23062523
You do realize these aren't the only collabs people can do, right? Not every collab is a huge 30-man event. Collabs are fine, you just need synergy with whoever you're collabing with.

>>23061044
This isn't something you need to worry about as an indie. You can't possibly think all these indies on got permission to play any of the games they play, right?

>>23062859
>>23063103
look at all of the aspies from last year and see how many of them are stagnating because they only collab with each other. they have no viewers other than some schizos from 4chan and each other. stop collabing if you want to grow.

Anyone got any good youtube videos or courses on public speaking

idk if it will help but ive got a really bad lisp and I have to use words that wont sound like I have an extra chromosome...

>>23062998
Hey a fem brit chuuba, how rare.
Mic sounds tinny and bad, I'd suggest getting a decent USB mic to start off with which you can tweak with settings on OBS to sound better. it'll be a good starter mic for you to try out vtubing before you invest in a full Mic setup is what I'd say.

>>23063291
>see how many of them are stagnating because they only collab with each other.
Of course you have proof that this is the reason and not anything else, right, like maybe 90% of /asp/ies and chuubas in general being boring and ahving bad content?? Why do you assume it's the collabs? Is it just because you dislike them? I've grown from collabs, I'm friends with other who have grown from collabs.

Some of my regulars are from the communities of people I have collabed with. It's about the content you create while collabing being good enough to entertain the viewers.

>>23063400
good to know. I got it to record for class when I was doing classes. I'll shill out a bit more to get a much better one

>>23059823
>>23062523
What is it with these threads and the "feast or famine" mindset?

>>23063525
Drop your link in the future though, you have a nice voice. I'll look forward to you streaming!

>>23063518
>like maybe 90% of /asp/ies and chuubas in general being boring and ahving bad content??
so work on improving the content instead of collabing. why are you so angry?
>>23063561
kill yourself faggot.

>>23063596
>so work on improving the content instead of collabing. why are you so angry?
This is what I mean. It's feast or famine. No one can find a middleground, no one can do two things at once. You can do collabs and still improve your content.

>>23063696
>You can do collabs and still improve your content.
that's not how it works. when you're starting out a collab is a wasted stream. improve your content.

>>23034528
i added her accessories, what do you think?

>>23063583
Thanks anon! I plan on streaming by June at least. I was planning on doing it sooner but family stuff came up

>>23063751
>that's not how it works.
why

https://files.catbox.moe/zmw0yq.mp4

kek

>>23063880
Smart, a direct ripoff of another very popular TikTok. This is basically all you need to do.

>>23063836
explain exactly what are you improving your content when you're playing crab game in a collab?

Everything can transfer to a content, even a random reply in this thread.

>>23063941
that's how ticktok works. Its were creativity goes to die but dang its great for promotion

>>23064064
There it is again, feast or famine. Every collab has to be crab game, right? Nothing else exists. There are no ways to play one on one with someone you have good synergy with, people who play well off of one another is a concept based only in fiction.

>>23064225
>right winger only has one reply
you're either a chuuba who got lucky with numbers and has numbers or you're just a viewer. fuck off with your toxic positivity. reality doesn't work that way.

>>23062998
I used to have a leather bound complete edition of the guide, that brings back memories.
Anyway, it's shit but your stream will be shit until you get good so might as well get started.

>>23063773
The lace headband doesn't work. From that angle it looks wrong and the contour from the curve is jarring.
The ribbons are not as bad, but the shading is not the same style as the rest of the body so they still feel out of place.
Shading style needs to stay consistent in 3D.

>>23064064
Link your channel let's see the stats that back you up. Because something tells me you have no views and if we start comparing you'd cry. Go be a crab somewhere else.

>>23064331
are you even a streamer?

>>23064331
You're doing the exact same thing game constantly spouting "CRAB GAME, BUT CRAB GAME!" except it makes no sense. How is anything I said toxic positivity"? Just collab with people who you interact with well, it isn't some insane concept. I've only collabed with friends that I've got good chemistry with and not just anyone I talk to. If I don't think we'll mesh together well on stream, I don't collab with them it's super simple.

>>23064488
Pretty sure that guy's baiting. If he's not, then that's a thick headed I'm always right type that you can't really argue with. Your points are all valid but it'll never be enough. Best to just ignore.

Why do you guys reply to bait.

>>23064688
Aspies are very naive and innocent since this is supposed to be an advice/feedback thread. Super easy to shit up this place

>>23064688
I usually fall for it because I'm worried about bad info being passed on to the more gullible aspies and forget there's just bad actors in these threads at times.

>>23064434
I love that book. Though it would be a good thing to read out as well I got a beat up paper back i used to read at school. A leather bound one sounds so nice
I've just ordered a hopefully better mic. And if that's also shit I'll just return it

Bodysuit anon, HD60X is $50 cheaper than 4K60 Pro.

>>23065984
Seriously don't understand why people keep buying Elgato when you can get the same specs for almost half the price elsewhere.

AverMedia's live gamer mini costs 80 bux and does the exact same.

>>23066313
Well I need 4K pass-through.
So even for AverMedia I would get GC553/555/573.

>>23066542
What do you need 4K pass-through for?

>>23066542
Ah, i see my bad. The amazon page for my mention has actually the wrong specs listed. Yeah the price goes up if you need that.

>>23066542
>need 4K pass-through.
>need
?

>>23066542
you do realize that even the top streamers stream at 720 60 FPS right?

>>23066542
Dude, your internet can barely keep up with a 720p stream

>>23066600
>>23066701
>>23067465
>>23067494
Anons, it's pass to my main monitor for playing games...
For stream is always 1080p at best.

>>23066542
please tell the class why you need 4k passthrough when every other streamer out there is fine without it

>>23067641
you shouldn't be streaming at 1080p unless you're partnered anyway

>>23067641
>it's pass to my main monitor for playing games...
just plug your console into the monitor directly?

>>23067757
I'm not gonna use console version of Twitch.

>>23067863
if you simply want to spend money and pretend like it's going to help numbers then just say so.

>>23067934
Anon I have that thing years before I start streaming.

I will be getting a new mic, but I'm trying to figure out what my model should be and what would fit well with my voice. What sort of character would go well with my voice too? One of my friends says I sound like a British Kermit the frog. I was hoping to play into more of smart ass character.
As for what I will stream, it'll be talks about stuff, 4xs, puzzle games and Turn based strategies.

https://voca.ro/13HI0M1e2X1v

>>23067863
>>23067934
I don't think you can use twitch console version and showing your vtuber model at the same time though?

>>23068108
anon wants to play at 4k when not streaming. just plug it into the monitor.

>>23068067
>smart ass character.
yep. I get some mad scientist/professor vibes from your voice.

>>23068335
I second this

>>23068150
You can playing at 4k when streaming though? playing at 4k doesn't mean your streaming also need to be 4k, you can playing at 4k and set your streaming 160p like Serbs.

>>23068067
Something like Bill Gates in 20yo.

>>23063880
miku sounds surprisingly good in spanish.

>>23053204
There is literally one ITT

>>23068067
Platypus with a monocle

I want to be a reverse babi kind of but how jarring is it to use a androgynous model (leaning male) with a very high pitched voice? I sound childlike almost

>>23065984
F

>>23069597
just play a shota and learn japanese and you win

>>23069597
How high pitched is high pitched? Vocaroo or we have nothing to help you with.

>>23069597
Is there not a word for reverse babi's?

>>23068840
very specific, any reason for that ?

>>23068555
>>23068374
>>23068335
Thank you anons. I like the mad scientist vibe, but I might go for more of a professor vibe. I'm doing my PhD so I can be a literal Dr.
I was thinking of something similar to these guys.

Trying to figure this thing out
I have a
>Capture card
>Audio interface
I want to combine the audio from whatever is going to my monitor/tv with my desktop audio and zero latency microphone monitor.
I also don't want the "live" audio from monitoring bleeding into any audio that I might have going for desktop audio when in OBS.
What can I do?
I guess I could try using my (really old) 3.5mm male-to-male stereo cable from the headphone out of my monitor to the line in of my PC and listen back on that...

>>23069597
if its androgynous people will just associate the girl part more if you are high pitched. honestly androgynous is probably the best way to go about this babi business because its simply easier for the audience to fill in the blanks instead of the harsh "oh this is an obvious XX voice with a XX gender"

>>23070521
are you that goat with the horns chuuba who doesn't credit his artist?

>>23070769
anon... this might rock your world, but some chuubas do their own art

>>23068067
Anon if you're gonna talk about anything STEM or history/literature while playing a smartass character I will gosling immediately. I have been looking for a chuuba that fits this description for as long as I have been into VTubers.
please be somewhat shota-like I beg

>>23070521
make it a shota with big ass stupid glasses and a lab coat that don't fit and that's a golden character

>>23068067
Get a character designer if you dont want to be a cartoon animal, they should have a decent idea of where to take your character.

>>23070975
My PhD is in Linguistics, so that'd be my speciality. I can't give away the contents of my papers but they're very philosophical and one of my favourite subjects to talk about is the sapir whorf hypothesis, outside of that I'm a huge sucker for anything that's probability talk and linked to the cosmos.

>>23071090
I'm liking that idea, will take the other anon's advice and look for a character designer.

>>23071141
Thanks for your advice!

>>23069597
Hiiragi Yuu is the best example of a reverse babi right now using an androgynous model.

>>23071509
Anon you're perfect. If you end up posting your links here I will send you all of my support.

>>23070521
>very specific, any reason for that ?
You are clearly smart, but the animal itself is a little dopey looking. So a visual contrast

>>23060748
imo, i think this may be a relatively disagreed with take but i feel like i found more success when i stopped collabing

i think one thing for sure though is that when you collab, not streaming BOTH povs might be something to consider. i think this may be my worst experience with collabing, especially among smaller creators who may not be quite as experienced with streaming / streaming etiquette yet. what i mean by this is, for example:

>youre both streaming
>your collab partner gets a sub
>your collab partner says "aw, thanks for the sub vtuberfan2893!!"
>it comes across on your stream too
>and it keeps happening whenever they get a message in their chat too, they carry conversations with their chat that gets translated over into your stream
>and you don't want to / feel awkward talking because it's not like you want to interrupt them

this is one of the things i dislike most about multi-pov collabs, both in terms of being in them and watching them too ><, so if this is the case, make sure to set up a push to talk / push to mute common ground! i think it's a bit jarring if you're in chat and you're hearing someone that you don't know in your favorite streamer's stream just go on and on and your favorite streamer just kinda has to sit there

also chemistry does weigh VERY heavily when i collab / want to watch a collab. from a viewer's perspective, i'm following you because i want to watch YOU!! if the person you bring onto your stream doesn't complement you and you guys don't bounce off of each other well, often times it becomes awkward and i'll just leave unfortunately

i don't mean to have this come off as bossy or condescending etc at all so if it does i'm sorry!! i hope that this is just some insight that you guys will find potentially helpful to apply when considering collabs too, sorry if it's confusingly worded as well

>>23072165
thank you chuuba who actually streams for bringing sense into the thread. viewerfags can go fuck off and die. incoming viewerfags with qualifiers to move goalposts.

My oshi Lunella is streaming more Elden Ring. We're 8 from getting Twitch affiliate. Stop by if you want to hang and chill and support a new streamer!

https://www.twitch.tv/lunellavt

>>23072583
You realize he gave a problem and then in the next line immediately solved it while also repeating what others have been saying yet you've been disagreeing with, right?

>hearing the collab partner thanking subs is kind of annoying
>so be sure to set up a PTM!
>chemistry is important
>this is information to apply when doing collabs

Nowhere did they just say don't collab, Mr. Crabgame.

I bought a new microphone because the ones I had were dead, but our of the box it sounds like I'm in a cave. wtf?
I read about a month ago that most problems can be solved with filters/VST plugins. How I am supposed to tackle this?
Can't vocaroo now, maybe tomorrow.

>>23072864
wrong picture

>>23072583
>bringing sense into the thread
>says to add a Push to mute and have good chemistry when you collab
Did you read past the first sentence? Multiple people have said to have chemistry, all they did was include a Push to Mute suggestion.

>>23071509
I doodled a concept for you anon. Do what you want with it im just having a bit of fun

>>23072888
>>23073018
>conveniently ignores the
>i found more success when i stopped collabing
part as expected. thanks for proving you're just viewerfaggots who never streamed in their lives. made up assumptions from retards like you are the reason why so many chuubas never grow.

>>23072899
Which mic is it?

>>23073471
Yes, that's what we call anecdotal evidence. I'm not disagreeing with them or doubting they found more success, I'm saying that their experience isn't indicative of everyone's experience and I'm sure they'd be willing to admit that much seeing as they were pretty rational in their explanation.

>>23073830
you can stop now.

>>23073471
>conveniently ignoring the anon that said collabing helped them

>>23073547
Very cheap "directional" mic. I bought it because reviews said you have to be very close to it for it to catch anything and it's what I wanted because I want to play with speakers. But that's not even true, it's ultra sensitive, it picks up noise from across the fucking apartment. Now fuck my speakers. I just want my sound to not be grating to hear.
https://www.speedlink.com/en/PURE-Desktop-Voice-Microphone-black/SL-8702-BK

>>23073018
>they

>>23072165 (me)

to elaborate further, i didn't say NOT to collab! just personally, i found more growth when i cut back on them, and honestly that may just straight up be because of coincidence, and my experience certainly will not be the same as yours so as always, take it with a grain of salt! i actually did a collab recently and it went okay, and that's because i was the only one streaming a pov and it was with a good friend of mine :D so definitely, collabs are okay! but i think personally, it's not a super dependable way to grow :( i'm dog, so you guys can look at my pages and see how much you want to take my advice bc at the end of the day, i'm just an aspie like the rest of us

as a viewer, i personally find that i don't really want to watch collabs unless they provide GFE (group of friends experience hehe)

like, if it really doesn't feel organic, i don't really want to watch it. and this can be difficult to accomplish the feeling of if both (or more if a group) of you guys are streaming trying to babysit your respective chats at the same time; hence why i suggested only streaming one pov at once! so that

1) you don't have to worry so much about push to mute unless you just don't want to bother your collab partner in call (but generally if you guys are friends they might not mind / if they're not streaming, they'll have your stream open reading your chat too) and you guys can both talk to your chat and offer a more interactive experience!

2) the person who you're collabing with is more laid back and maybe not trying to play a character as hard / doesn't have their usual streamer mode on, and so you guys can be more authentically you!

also, this is the only thing i'll tell you guys NOT to do (again, take this with a grain of salt), but please god do not do among us collabs (or at least, don't stream them unless you're playing with a genuine group of friends). among us collabs / adjacent games like crab game usually start by way of: one tuber reaches out to all their mutuals and asks them to play, which leads to a lobby of like, 7 strangers and 3 people you also might be mutuals with, who have never / barely spoken to each other before. just so awkward... speaking from both from my viewerbrain and my tuberbrain

all this being said, of course you can collab, it's a part of not just vtubing culture but streaming culture as a whole and you don't need a justification to stream with your friends! sorry for word vomit again, i know some parts are definitely written really... uhh... silly, and sorry for textwalling the thread again!

>>23054898
>outside of azu

SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS YES

What makes a good stream layout (for games, drawing, handcam, etc) for vtubers and camera streamers alike?

>>23074227
Aw, you didn't have to type all this. It doesn't fit his no-collab narrative so he'll ignore it and call you a viewer or something.

>>23074327
Game full screen, character bottom right or left, whichever doesn't cover important information. I prefer right but I won't stop watching someone just because they're on the left. You can use an overlay but I really don't find them necessary.

why has this thread consistently been a shitshow the past week or two? Did someone fizzle out and get disgruntled?

>>23074694
because babis run this fucking thread!!!

>>23074694
More than that I think the worst part is that a lot of what's talked about is heavily biased or bad information as a whole

>>23074694
I think a select few people are really upset about babis and getting extremely preachy about it and sparking a shitfling every time they see anything babi related.
Any time the subject of babis comes up all the armchair psychologists come out of the woodwork with their bullshit about "disconnect between voice and avatar" and how "babis are nothing but coomers who can't roleplay". Or they drop in just to give their amazing, never heard before marketing advice of "you should appeal to fujos and use a male model if you want to succeed".

That's been the time loop for a while now and it's extremely dull.

>>23074951
Joke's on you, my model is a tiny furry thing but I like talking in here anyway. I just don't share it because I know the response will be worse than if I went full babi.

>>23075258
you don't run this fucking thread!!!

>>23074694
/asp/ has it's own dedicated schizos now.
/asp/bros... we made it...

>>23074227
Not taking advice from a tranny, nice try

does anyone have definitive lists of current gen male /asp/ies vs babis vs (females)? Interested to see how things would shake out if we balkanized the thread

>>23075166
I HATE babis!

>>23075410
babis outweigh the guys and the girls combined at this point

>>23075350
I'm so proud of us all

>>23075394
So the advice was sound until you realized they were a tranny?

>>23075394
o-oh

that's okay

weh...

>>23075603
accelerate the decline!

Guys, what do you think about the idea of becoming a robot-like VTuber ? Like this one

>>23074951
I'm struggling to find a design, I'm thinking about being a furry loli babiniku.
What do you think?

>>23075787
Most people would point to the fact facial expressions are a large part of a good model, but if you can swing it then it'd be fine.

>>23075787
Anything goes. A famous japanese couple channel has the guy as a peanut.

I was going to ask for some advice, but it might be better to wait till certain anons are put down for their naps.

>>23075896
Well, it wouldn't exactly look like this, but it would be the spirit. This image is a rough idea of what i want to do

>>23038246
Coldness be my god

>>23054898
>>23074244

>>23074227
Wait, you're the one who does the nutty 9 hour streams? If so, I kneel.

>>23054898
>outside of azu who would make for a decent trap
Just a viewer fag here but if you mean azu as in bodysuit anon the streams are a bit too stale to catch attention and thats what they should work on

>>23076369
>they
fuck you zoomers

>>23075917
They're siblings.

>>23075680
oh shit you're that dog? link? i saw you posted here or wvt at some point and enjoyed the stream but forgot to follow and could never find it again.

>>23076433
Yeah right.
even if they are, yjk

>>23076426
you know people have been using "they" that way for ages, right? it has nothing to do with progressives or trannies or whatever you want to blame it on

>>23076113
As I said, a unique design is an overall plus unless it's butt ugly and can't be expressive, and Krimbo somewhat overcame the first point. If I were you I would keep both of those in mind as you design it and give yourself wiggle room in case it comes out too stiff and you want it more expressive. Overall you'll be more comfortable in a model you like though, and that's easily one of the most important parts.

>>23076567
No, they is plural. Fuck off with your revisionism.

>>23071509
Since we're doodling concepts now I made one as well.

>>23076646
Shakespeare, who has been dead for literally centuries, used they as a singular pronoun. So has Jane Austen, who has been dead for over two centuries. So have a lot of authors, both dead and living. Read a fucking book.

>>23076632
Thanks 4chin user :D

>>23076646
>they is plural
They has been used as a singular pronoun since the 1300s. "You" also used to just be plural. "They is only plural" is some shit a guy wrote in a book once and english teachers rolled with it because it lets them abuse kids by pretending that english has a strictly defined ruleset. Same with the whole "don't end a sentence with a preposition" thing.

I hope fellow /asp/ies made a schedule for next week, i plan to be more productive on stream, because i feel like they do better than gaming anyways. Nobody wants to watch some guy play through ps1 rpgs really, but it's my comfort streams so i'll keep doing it.

>>23076369
What do you mean by stale, is it a lack of energy/action overall/during gameplay, is it how I’ve been playing games so far?

>>23076632
>Krimbo somewhat overcame the first point
I never really understood the issue people have with his model, it's obviously not pretty but the way it's stylized helps with it being "ugly" because that's the intent of the design. It's like the difference between realistic characters like Bob from Tekken vs Blackbeard from one piece.

>>23073121
>>23076746
concept

>>23076968
>pretending that english has a strictly defined ruleset
My biggest grip with english is that it doesn't. It's such a garbage language.
>lol just speak like you want bro nothing matters!
Illiterates.

>>23071509
I don't have a concept but here's a booth model so you can just start streaming tomorrow and work on a more personal design as you go.

https://booth.pm/en/items/1445862

>>23077127
Nta but I'd like to see some more energy. Just being more expressive and confident in yourself would make your streams a lot more interesting.

Think of it like this: You aren't just playing a game and chatting. You're putting a performance, and as such it falls to you to maintain the energy. Put on a show that you would be amused by and I think you'll be more likely to attract people to you.

Obviously this takes time and practice. You know your situation better than I do.

>>23077127
Stale as in almost forgettable. I'm not saying go over the top and exhaust yourself with talking non-stop but sometimes like small reactions could help during your gameplay of Mario Kart. Dead air can go on for a bit too long before you add in a tiny quip.

Once again though viewerfag

>>23077072
Have you thought about using Figma for layout work like stream schedules? I hate to sound like a shill but it’s great for mass-changing repeating elements.

>>23075166
buttblasted babi spotted

>>23077664
uoooogh

>>23077570
Do you really think that no other language undergoes changes like that or has colloquialisms?

>>23075795
What sort of things are you thinking about? What kind of animal, sort of content and type of model?

>>23075473
God I wanna mate press this dumb babi and force them to voice changer grrrr

>>23077884
Except they try to keep their shit somewhat clean. English is entirely driven but the pleb. Which is getting replaced by niggers and pajeets.
Know where you're headed.

>>23077896
Sorry, I think tomorrow, make sketch, now sleep. Gahr.

>>23078074
I'm headed outdoors occasionally, which is probably more than you can say for yourself. Nice typo, fellow pleb. You're a fantastic English speaker.

>>23077786
Thanks for the suggestion, i've been using photoshop for ages though (professionally too) and it's not that much effort if you keep your file organized and don't use a destructive process for it (keep the shapes as smart objects, use a lot of masks and duplicates etc.). If i ever feel like it gets too tedious i might consider it, but i can make a week's schedule in like 5 minutes.

>>23077678
>>23077771
I’ll keep on working on that, the challenge for me would be to get myself to do/say things that I otherwise wouldn’t do IRL, like I just keep quiet a lot unless I really get frustrated over something.
Besides that, maybe what might help is try to lean a little into commentary to fill in the gaps.

>>23078396
Who cares? It's english, anything goes. I'm singlehandedly redefining it.

>>23075680
i think you are legitimately too good to be typing all that and having to deal with people calling you a tranny at this point

>>23078500
If it helps, watch a different chuuba who does it well and try to imitate what they would say.

I recommend trying to imitate a variety of them so you can get a feel for what you like and don't like.

>>23077570
Speaking as a linguist the only major issues English has as a language some from spelling and pronunciation. Otherwise it's no better or worse off than most.
Either way, "they" used as a singular pronoun to refer to people whose gender is either unknown, or not important to the context, has been a thing for over 700 years.
>>23078074
Common use defines all language. The only people who say otherwise are just public school teachers who won't have a job if they don't pretend that it has to be strict.

>>23077072
Only real time i can consistently stream is 17 GMT -3 on tuesdays and i don't think it's worth it to make a schedule just for that

>>23078770
…That just reminded me, I need to watch Ludwig’s presentation again. Or listen while drawing something…

>>23078804
>Common use defines all language
Not mine. I reject sandniggers colloquialisms regardless of how hard you try to shove them down my throat.
Purity can't be just of blood, it has to also be of mind.

>>23078965
But you don't have any friends, a family of your own or go outdoors. Wouldn't it be in your best interests to raise kids to be like you instead of whatever it is that you're doing in /asp/ right now?

>>23078965
So speak latin or fuck off. If you're going to make a point about purity don't make it while talking a bitch language made up of slave talk with a bit of french and german thrown in.

>>23079044
Don't project your lack of affinity towards grass.

I've posted this suggestion before and before anyone says it sound schizo, I know, but what's helped me is watching streamers I want to emulate when they're doing Just Chatting or react streams and "responding" to them as if I'm there with either how I'd reply or the way I'd react to what they're watching or saying. It's helped me a lot but I find it just doesn't work with chuubas nearly as much, it's better to just get a larger IRL Streamer if you like any. Ludwig's a great one I've used him, Sodapoppin, and NorthernLion as well.

The only downside besides the obvious one of looking like a psychopath is that it's a "no feedback" way of training yourself so you won't know if it's working until you really go back and look at your own VODs after you stream.

>>23078809
To be honest being a 2view like myself, the schedule does absolutely nothing. All it does is giving me something to tweet, and signal people i'm still active. I sincerely doubt anyone looks forward to my streams that they would watch out of a schedule. The schedule is more for me. Giving myself the obligation to stream, sticking to a schedule and planning out what i'm doing on any given day. It's a rep i find mildly useful and entertaining for myself, but not to get more viewers.

>>23079169
Hmm, he's not denying it... I think it's safe to say that I won this exchange unless you've got more that you want to type at me about how the niggers and pajeets put a pebble in your shoe.

>>23079172
It sounds schizo but it's no different from talking to a mirror.

What style of robot/persocom ears would work well for meidos?

>>23079233
I see, i guess i'll look into making one then, thanks!

>>23079395
Pathetic.

>>23079520
Indeed you are! :D

>>23079583
are you 11?
kys

>>23079463
Antenna

>>23079630
Nope, I'm 26. How old are you? And why do I need to kill myself?

>>23079942
In one year. Make sure you've made SOME music by then so you can cash in.

>>23076646
Retardchama, I'm an ESL and I know what you're saying is objectively wrong. You can use they when you don't know the gender of something, unlikely romance languages english isn't a gendered language and can be used as a singular...

>>23079687
Antenna seems to be the best choice especially as pointy ear replacements
I just need to figure out a different floating headgear option now…

>>23080224
English has genders

>>23080485
Retard

>>23080485
Retard

>>23080485
We also have neuter pronouns. It and they.
If you find an object that someone has left behind and announce it to a room, are you more likely to say "Someone left their so-and-so here" or "Someone left his or her so-and-so here"

>>23078404
Same here with the pro part too. My team tried to switch to Sketch from Photoshop a few years back but it didn’t take off due to the OS limitations. Half have flocked to figma. the other half had to be dragged kicking and screaming into it because they don’t understand how to use shared libraries.

>>23075410
babis don't register on the scale

any other GIMP pimps itt

>>23080485
retard

So this is the power of /asp/.....

>>23081006
It is truly staggering.

>>23080786
Me but only because i can't be bothered to pirate PS

>>23072954
Your oshi needs just one more.Which potential groomer will take it?

>>23081094
Same. I haven't used Photoshop since CS3 because GIMP does everything that I cared to do with Photoshop and I think it's documented a little better. Also $$$$$

>>23076320
ahaha yeah... it used to be really hard for me to stream past 3 hours and for some reason one day something in me snapped and 9 hours just started being the normal length for some reason ?_? my endurance reps...

>>23076496
oh thank you!! that's really kind of you to say, i'm really happy you found it entertaining! my twitch is

https://www.twitch.tv/zunlive

sorry for selfposting sorry for selfposting sorry for selfposting OTL

>>23078647
f-friend shaped anon is that you