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"I will save the Tsunderia girls!"

>> No.23034355

Do it fish man

>> No.23034401

>>23034322
>I will gut Tsunderia!
Fixed

>> No.23034466

Who even wants to be saved?
He'll poach Lisa when her contract is up and that's it.

>> No.23034503

what the hell is happening anons can someone give me a tldr

>> No.23034531

>>23034503
Tsunderia commits suicide
All girls are now indie

>> No.23034557

>>23034503
tl;dr the bubble burst a long time ago and the vtuber industry is consolidating, like any industry that goes through a bubble.

But here's a real quick rundown:
>Tsunderia hires managers
>Talent doesn't want to listen to management
>Management doesn't force them to do anything
>Company stagnates forever
>Management quits since their job is useless
>Talents quit since they're receiving zero support
>Company implodes

>> No.23034838

>>23034531
oh noes are they gonna be 2views now (im guessing they are already are since i havent heard about them)

>>23034531
thanks anon. that actually sounds retarded ngl

>> No.23035087
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>>23034503
tl:dr Tsunderia lost half their talents and tehir management all at once

>> No.23035344

>>23034838
Miori, Yuuna, Lisa and I think Kazu are 3views, and Ami is almost there.

>> No.23035376

>>23034557
If the industry is consolidating, why do I keep hearing about new fly-by-night companies popping up?

>> No.23035793

>>23034322
Nye

>> No.23036615
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23036615

We need to normalise transfer windows and transfer fees for vtubers.

>> No.23036805

>>23035376
They are late to the party, it'll be fun to watch them crash and burn through.

>> No.23037491

>>23036615
>Vtuber agent draft stream
oh baby

>> No.23037561

>>23034322
vtubers come and go. they are like sand on the beach, there is more than enough and the next vtuber will appear today or tomorrow.
nothing was lost

>> No.23037630

>>23035087
Are they just dead now? How can they ever recover?

>> No.23037658

>>23035376
Tsunderia preceded all of them, including HoloEN, so it carries a bit more significance. Unfortunately their first-movers advantage didn't really seem to exist.

>> No.23037711

>>23035087
Is Mio gonna get scouted? Or is she gonna be an indie?

>> No.23037783

>>23034322
I though Purin was an Indie Vtuber.
They should have got rid of her because it will make 0 difference

>> No.23037815

>>23037630
They still have their latest full generation, plus one of their original three (and one more that's been on an extended hiatus for months to focus on school).
This is a huge setback, but they've survived so much already that I don't think anything can truly kill them. They've survived at least two other events that had anons certain of their demise in the past, so I'm holding off on the doomposting for now

>> No.23038073

>>23037815
Alright, if you say so. It just looks absolutely catastrophic.

>> No.23039108

>>23037815
you're full on copium bro, there has never been a blow this hard in the history of tsunderia. they've lost not only half their talent including their money pigs, but also two (all?) managers.

>> No.23042018
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>> No.23042110

>>23034531
>everywhere Miori goes the company collapses
Sakana-san might just leave her alone and let Hololive take her in.

>> No.23042167

>>23037815
>They still have their latest full generation
That's because they're all stuck in 1 year contracts. When the year is over, they're gone.

>> No.23042213
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23042213

Nothing better happen to my spider wife.

>> No.23042249

>>23034322
He's a sex pest and you all know it.
Stop coping /pcg/ he fucks your oshi.

>> No.23042312

>>23037815
When Hanabi comes back she is dipping out, or worst case scenario they will type out a letter she is graduating and it is the last you'll hear of her. Purin has no reason to stay around. She is far removed from gen 3.

>> No.23042463

>>23034322
>be a millionaire
>talked about going out with the talents and buying them stuff when he meets them
>regularly DMs girls from other corpos
>the girls in phase connect all talk to him regularly about anything

He's pretty much grooming the girls in order to find a wife at this rate, it's impossible for any of us to compete since he's so rich and powerful.

>> No.23042742

>>23042463
I would do this too if I had the money and a chuuba agency.

>> No.23042921

>>23042249
large if real

>> No.23043592

>>23035087
Will Genn3 stay or are they waiting for their contracts to end?

>> No.23043667

>>23043592
Their 6 months are up in two weeks, we'll know then.

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>>23036615
I've been saying this unironically for some time now. I believe vtuber agencies will be like sport leagues in the future where talents come and go, there's already so much similarity between vtubing and prowrestling it's scary.

>> No.23043973

>>23037658
There was a first mover advantage. Problem was the advantage was never capitalized on

>> No.23047001

>>23034322
This guy is dangerous and worse, Canadian

>> No.23047026

>>23037815
I'm sorry anon, but you are delusional if you think Tsunderia's going to recover from this. The one person who could've possibly salvaged this disaster was the first person to leave, it's over.

>> No.23047082
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23047082

MORE FRIENDS FOR THE BEAR!!!

>> No.23050119

>>23042463
He already found wife in the bear

>> No.23052108

>>23043841
I fear the hulk hoogan vtuber carrier

>> No.23054315
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23054315

Fishman's goal all along has been to build up PhaseConnect as much as possible and then have it implode in the most spectacular fashion possible for shits and giggles, and he is frustrated that CyberLive and Tsunderia are overtaking PhaseConnect in this regard. Pippa has not been as destructive as he was hoping, so he will be hiring Michael the Cat for the Japanese branch in the hopes that a proven menhera timebomb will finally destroy his company in a blaze of glory.

>> No.23054642

>>23042312
So why didn't Purin graduate too?

>> No.23054697

>>23035376
two of them already flopped
trendchasers are present in literally all industries

>> No.23054716

>>23043667
Contracts are a year anon

>> No.23054722
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23054722

>Phase Connect is slowly winning the small EN corpo startup wars

>> No.23054787

>>23034322
Ill only save them if i can groom and fuck them, and they better be cute and flat

>> No.23054821

>>23054716
my condolences then lmao

>> No.23054826

>>23054642
It's a mystery.

>> No.23054855

>>23054716
Everyone is saying this so confidently, yet Orla was only around for 9 months

>> No.23054858

>>23054722
I feel like when something does inevitably happen to PhaseConnect it's going to be extremely devastating.

>> No.23055104

>>23054858
I doubt anything could be that bad than Pippa probably getting blacklisted from corps like NijiEN and Hololive.

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>>23055104
Less than a month ago it didn't seem like anything that bad could happen to Tsunderia either, yet here we are.

>> No.23055753

>>23055413
Pippa or Fishman probably put all their life stats into luck or something, because if the worst Pippa could probably get is getting permanently skipped over by big corpo chuubas for her twitter comments, I doubt anything worse that could happen.
Worse I can see happening in the long term is that Pippa's fanbase slowly gets bored of her antics/drama and leaves her behind for the hot new thing. That or she pisses off and alienates her current audience for wanting to learn Chinese or something stupid and minor.

>> No.23056513
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>>23055104
If anything the whole company would be blacklisted
>Someone in PC lands a big holo/niji collab
>management gets an email associating the company with the place that posts their talents' dox
>collab called off

>> No.23056630

>>23056513
Phase Connect will never collab with either companies anyway and some Nijis are already seething at Pippa

>> No.23056807

>>23055104
as long as pippa keeps doing interesting interviews i don't care that she's a doxxfag

>> No.23056984

>>23043841
What if chuubas cut promos before collabs?

>> No.23057772

>>23056984
This should happen regardless. Hype those collabs up.

>> No.23057991

>>23056513
I can't C shit. Stop making screenshots at 144p

>> No.23058030

>>23055104
>Mentioning the only Vtuber I like atm

>> No.23058303

>>23054315
best rrat

>> No.23058492

>>23054716
Anon I don't know how to tell you this but she likely signed the contract in April or May before debuting. Thus in the real world contract talks begin then and thus the announcement now.

That's why her graduation is May 3rd.

>> No.23058540

>>23058492
Meant for
>>23054855 I'm just retarded

>> No.23058652

>>23058492
If that was the case, then Quest would have signed theirs around August. There is no way that the contracts are 1 year long and also both Quest and Reverse were up for renewal at the same time. Even if they were six months instead of twelve, Quest would have renewed theirs last month, before Urara and Char left

>> No.23059046

>>23057991
the only part that matters is kiwifarms

>> No.23059267

>>23059046
Why does that matter, though?

>> No.23059331

Fish can't afford to pay that many people

>> No.23059476
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>> No.23059498

>>23037815
They had Slugma for those setbacks and she held it together (barely), but now...

>> No.23059734

>>23058652
>Quest would have renewed theirs last month
well im guessing there was a lot of negotiation and it extended the timing
it would also explain why so many just quit immediately

>> No.23059830

>>23034322
Can someone do an edit of Yagoo's "Come home" meme but with Fishman's face?

>> No.23059885

>>23058492
>>23058652
>>23059734
Here's the more realistic but less entertaining explanation:
>PPP hires another manager (this is confirmed by Lisa)
>New manager will be proactive, something that has never happened in Tsunderia
>Char plans an exit date since she isn't doing much officially anyway
>Urara and new manager's personalities and styles clash
>Urara, sensing that she's losing influence (not that the chuubas listened to her anyway), throws a bitch fit and leaves abruptly
>In light of this, PPP gives everyone a choice: continue on with Tsunderia and the new management direction, or buy out your character, no hard feelings
>Meru and Kallin know they can't put as much time and energy into their channels as the new management would want and decide to leave
>Miori initially joined for Urara, and she knows it will probably be easier to get big name collabs or even picked up by the big 2 agencies while indie, so it's an easy choice to leave
>Yuuna would have no genmates and is also preparing to move and start a new job, so she's out too
>Orla only joined for Urara and was never serious about channel growth or popularity
>Hanabi hasn't checked in for months, could be dead for all anyone knows
>Purin decides this is her time to shine and will stick around and try out being a real, serious VTuber to support her family
>TsunDream talk about it as a group and decide they can make the most of the added managerial attention and ambition

>> No.23060019

>>23059830
I've been waiting for that

>> No.23060150

>>23059885
>Urara, sensing that she's losing influence (not that the chuubas listened to her anyway), throws a bitch fit and leaves abruptly
I thought you said this was the "more realistic" interpretation

>> No.23060267

>>23054642
Because Purin isn't a turncoat bitch, she's apparently the only loyal female in the entire fucking company

>> No.23060505

>>23060267
You say this like you've never left a job for a better one, anon. Kindly take your tribalist bullshit and leave, let the girls be happy.

>> No.23060768

>>23042463
Why would he need to groom them? Nasa is already the perfect wife

>> No.23060845

>>23055413
Honestly to me Tsunderia always felt like on the brink of this stuff happening.

>> No.23060967

>>23060845
I thought they would hang on as a "meh" corpo for a while until they faded away sometime in the future. I knew they would never incline but I didn't expect they would implode like this.

>> No.23061076

>>23059885
>Hanabi hasn't checked in for months, could be dead for all anyone knows
Hanabi's fandom twitter was active until March 20th

>> No.23061155

>>23034322

Pls Fishman don't implode Kawaii.
You should hire the Pear and force her to stream though

>> No.23061216

>>23059885
Its much more likely Urara left simply because she could make more money elsewhere and then everyone started making exit plans when they figured shit was going to sink sooner or later.

>> No.23062061

>>23054858
Like finding out Sakana is banging every single girl in Phase Connect

>> No.23062204

>>23062061
I'm glad Michiru has sex consistently. It's good for mental health

>> No.23062570

>>23061155
Kawaii will implode when nene leaves

>> No.23062649

>>23035344
>Kazu
>In the same sentence as Mio, Yuuna, and Lisa
Dudes a 0view. All of the m*les are. In fact, the m*les directly killed the company. No one wants to say it because it would make me right

>> No.23062811

I bet PPP tried to sexually harass one of the girls and it came out, most likely Hanabi. In exchange for silence they agreed to leave on "good terms" and go to keep their models and any assets bought while in Tsunderia.
You'll never hear anything about this because they're now contractually obligated to not speak of it.

>> No.23062836

>>23055753
Oh she did say in her collab with Lisa that she wants to learn chinese

>> No.23063009

Tsunderia is making Cyberlive look good right now...

>> No.23063041

>>23043841
>the vtuber hockey player draft
what team gets who?

>> No.23063058

Time to parse tsun dream up. StarsEN will take the lads, PC will take the slags, and leave the one no one wants to NijiEN. You know who.

>> No.23063096

>>23063058
Whoms't?

>> No.23063181

>>23063058
Fuck you you piece of shit. Men have no place in vtubing

>> No.23063224

>>23063181
They certainly do. Not in hololive proper but everywhere else they're fine.

>> No.23063255

>>23063224
Re-read my text: MEN HAVE NO PLACE IN >>VTUBING<<

>> No.23063334

>>23063009
Based

>> No.23063338

>>23062811
If anything like this had happened then Orla would've killed PPP with her own hands

>> No.23063347

>>23063224
But the best male Vtuber is Aruran and he is from Hololive?

>> No.23063373

>>23062811
try another rrat but use your brain this time

>> No.23063450

>>23059476
pottery

>> No.23063497

>>23059476
Can we all agree that Ria is 100x cuter than Rosemi is.

>> No.23063510

>>23059476
Apologize to her. She was right

>> No.23063531

>>23042167
Or if they can get in somewhere that will buy out their contract termination fees, or give them the opportunity to earn enough quick cash to do it themselves (Holo or Niji or I guess Vsoujo).

>> No.23063574

>>23060267
>thinking that employees have to be slaves to the company that employs them
Burger detected.

>> No.23063681

>>23063058
>tranny gets picked up by NijiEN
It would fit right in.

>> No.23063845

>>23058652
Contracts aren't like indentured servitude or something, you can break them, it just costs money. If they felt like they were getting fleeced by the company in exchange for basically nothing they might have felt it was worth it to take the hit and bail early.

>> No.23064040

>>23034322
"Hire men," they said. "It's a growing market," they said. Reap what you've sown.

>> No.23065318

>>23059267
Look at the pic then read the text in the post retardchama

>> No.23065794

>>23063181
>>23063224
Fuck off secondary holobronie. Men have been vtubing before retarded westerners made hololive boom and believed it was exclusively a female only thing, even with cover desperatly trying to get EOPS to stick with holostars their MALE division.

>> No.23065846

>>23065794
didn't ask, don't care, your stupid ass company hired men and immediately sank, die mad about it

>> No.23065893

>>23065794
Cope and seethe tranny

>> No.23065908

>>23035376
>why do I keep hearing about new fly-by-night companies popping up?
Thing is, you hear of them once when they announce their project and maaybe another time when they debut their first rooster of chuubas. After that they disappear into obscurity and are never being heard of ever again. They are trying to capitalize on a hype that has already seen its steepest growth and approaching stagnation.

>> No.23066021

>>23059476
>>23063510
>>23063497
>>23063450
Ria was smart enough to smell that they were going to sign m*les and sink the company. Based Ria

>> No.23066146

>>23056630
>some Nijis are already seething at Pippa
Elaborate, please. Which Nijis and why?

>> No.23066276

>>23066021
anon...
do you realize where Ria went?

>> No.23066322

>>23066276
Yeah. To a company where that shit is accepted by the audience. The numbers prove that Tsunderia was a CGDCT company. No one wanted mix gender collabs. The girls numbers hurt when they talked to the m*les

>> No.23066590

>>23036615
That seems realistically possible. Best way to recoup losses for smaller companies and possible gain for bigger ones and keep that vtuber brand going instead of axing them they YAB.

>> No.23068930

>>23034322
Meru is probably the only one

>> No.23069097

>>23066146
Pomu ignored her superchat

>> No.23072400

>>23066322
Males really sank the company?

>> No.23072441

>>23072400
Yes

>> No.23072573

>Watch phase connect
>all the girls talk about their boss all the time and what he did for them
>he's a young millionaire

It feels like you're getting NTR'd by someone far better than you that there's no point in watching Phase at all.

>> No.23073240

>>23072573
This cuck posting is annoying.
If you want to cuck post that's fine, he's probably a sex pest. But all this
>h-hurr he's better than me in every way stuff
is cringe as fuck.

dude is some fucking loser who pretends to be a fish because he's an ugly failure who lucked into money.

>> No.23073368

>>23072400
no they fucking didn't, stop listening to /vt/ards

>> No.23073469

>>23073240
When is he gonna be caught for his sexpesting though?

>> No.23073589

>>23073469
Once Lia's popularity wanes or she gets picked up somewhere else.
You know how women work. She'll play with him for now, but the moment he isn't needed anymore, she'll #metoo his ass.

>> No.23073606

>>23063255
>vtubing=hololive
nigger

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>>23060267
>5th grade agency loyalty
Are you American by any chance?

>> No.23074784

>>23072573
Just remember that you most likely have a significantly bigger penis than he does. Problem solved.

>> No.23076966

>>23072400
>>23073368
>first mixed generation
>talents leave
>managers leave
>company on the verge of total collapse
Just a coincidence, haha...

>> No.23079679

>>23073606
Vtubing should be Hololive. It's not an accident that Hololive is the biggest vtubing company

>> No.23082983

>>23034322
Save your JP branch first

>> No.23083208

>>23072573
That's like saying all the JP who talk about yagoo a lot are cucking their viewers, pretty retarded anonchama.

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