/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startup

[Anonymous No.]

What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
Twitter Networking: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Social media branding: https://pastebin.com/jVERSLqG
Take with a grain of salt Parasocial Guide : https://pastebin.com/zmpCResg
Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Hololive Auditions have opened up to males
https://en.hololive.tv/audition

Stay grounded, stay hopeful

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[Anonymous No.]

One of these two started streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22926422
I have the latter buff but the problem is my work schedule, it's the type of work where clients could just drop sudden bombs at 9pm and expect us to finish it before 9am the day after, throwing streaming schedules into chaos.
This is why I want to focus on prerecorded content at my own pace.

[Anonymous No.]

How many spics aspies are here tho?
I've been thinking about sharing /esp/ies discord link but I didn't see many people around like some time ago. Let me know if there are someone interested, we share streams of each other and resources as many times we can.

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>>22927640
>grouping up by language or country on the internet

disgusting

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>>22927979
We need a cute Canadian babi and a cute Spanish girl do a cute Minecraft collab or whatever we’re calling them now

[Anonymous No.]

>>22927640
Spaniard here, but I don't think I want to speak spanish on stream, since I have a very identifiable accent.
male btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>22927640
I'm mexican by blood, but i almost never used spanish growing up in america, so i'm basically white now.

[Anonymous No.]

guys uwu don't mouse over this spoiler it's my shameful secret I am a man I have a penis XY chromosomes btw

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>>22928947
at this point I just assume anyone who hasn't selfposted is a babi

[Anonymous No.]

I'm happy, for the first time in a long time.

With myself, with my growth, everything. I'm proud of myself.

Happy Friday, /asp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22929682
Good job, anon! Happy big Friday!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22929717
big friday, you say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22927640
I'm from tacoland but stream in English and live in burgerland.

[Anonymous No.]

are there any german /asp/ies?
streamt ihr in deutsch oder englisch?

[Anonymous No.]

I hope that my future model is cute.

[Anonymous No.]

The hololive audition form seems pretty straight forward huh? I wonder why people act like it's so selective. Do they just bomb on the interview?

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>>22930439
Kaiser is the only one that comes to mind

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>>22930920
They don't even read your shit if you don't pass the numberfilter, much less an interview. Those who got an interview mentioned that they're not just looking for good streamers, but idol material as well.

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>>22926193
oppai loli is superior. I prefer your current design over this. ignore the troons who can't pull off being a cute girl.

[Anonymous No.]

Hi /asp/, babi here.

[Anonymous No.]

I am tired of larges posting about how they are so nervous about whatever new event they are doing on twitter like they have a reason to

[Anonymous No.]

>>22931554
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22931576
I like being a cute girl and it's fun to joke around with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22931554
please don't tell me you're new here

[Anonymous No.]

你好,我是一个有抱负的 vtuber,我将我所有的视频都发布到 bilibili 和 youtube 上,我在 twitch 上直播,但是我收到评论说我不够女性化或者我很胖,你对我有什么建议吗?视频相关,我给的表演
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MnV4XoaCtg

[Anonymous No.]

>>22931615
Not at all!

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>>22931700
thank god, I almost lost count

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>22931669
And a ching Chong to you too sir.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22931669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP7utU8Efow

[Anonymous No.]

Does retweeting your own post later in the day do anything at all for the people who make themselves suffer the algorithm?

[Anonymous No.]

>Be babi
>have small tits
But why?
Aren’t larger boobs better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22931916
No.
Flat is justice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22931986
Let me introduce you to this outlandish concept, called m*les

[Anonymous No.]

>>22931916
Small boobs are good too though! As much as I love large breasts I didn't really feel like having them fit my character.

[Anonymous No.]

I can’t wait to see the end result, even if it’ll take a while

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>>22931125
But getting numbers on Youtube isn't that difficult. Like the ones that were trying to be idols before it weren't even that popular. You're right though they're probably hoping to sell cds and blurays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22931916
>>22932058
A lot of people do this and a lot more will continue but the audience wont keep up pace. Twitch already has a glut of booba chuubas. Once you expose yourself to that audience you can't really go back but success is not guaranteed.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there really any concrete way of growing bigger that isn't just complete luck? I've been making fanart for other vtubers, half go unnoticed. I've been streaming for 3 months, only an average of 6.3 viewers. Started pandering with shorts, barely go anywhere. Ive tried taking the digital marketing course linked here both nothing in it seemed concretely applicable to vtubing. Am I just doomed to the whims of an algorithm?

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>>22932643
Which vtubers? How good is it?

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>>22932643
Have you considered that you're just... not funny? Or attractive? Or have very low quality? I mean its hard to grow from zero trust me I've done it like 3 times before na.e recognition started helping. But if you just throw up your hands and say whelp the algorithm didn't grant me fame, then you weren't going to make it.

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>>22932643
If there was any promised way to get bigger, you think anyone would be small?

Here's some actionable advice though:
Use every resource available. Twitchstrike when it's working, or sully when it's not.
Clip yourself, make highlights, upload them everywhere.
Record your starts - start time, run time, CCV, max viewers, game, etc... Then do analysis. Does a Wednesday stream suck regardless of what you do? Well, maybe consider shifting your less popular game there, so it doesn't lose out on much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22932643
Either you stumble upon the right people, or be at at the right place, at the right time, or work at it for a long time with a natural but very slow growth. A lot of the big vtubers you see have been at it for years doing other forms of content creation, so don't beat yourself up over it. Just don't make excuses and give up too early

[Anonymous No.]

>>22932816
Indies, nijis, holos. It's not shit but it's not professional either really
>>22933042
Thanks for such a useless ass response.

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>>22933055
I understand. It just feels disheartening to put my all into something and see no real progress, despite how much I try. Thanks for the advice, I'll do my best to incorporate that kind of stuff.
>>22933105
I guess it's not really 1k CCV vtubers I'm looking at, just people that pull 1k followers and I just cant tell what stood out to all their followers that I haven't tried (other than coomerbaiting hard)

[Anonymous No.]

>>22933122
>Indies, nijis, holos
If they already have a metric ton of fanart that people can just skim through, then you kinda wasted your efforts. Smaller indies have a more dedicated fanbase so if you're making fanart of them it's easier to get noticed and retweeted. Also helps with networking. Of course, you're free to draw who you want but if you're doing it for growth, you might wanna switch up your approach.

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>>22933339
I've considered that, I'll probably take that approach. A lot of nijigirls are still really good about responding to fanart, especially finana, might draw more fanart of her haha

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>>22933122
Drawing fanart for vtubers that are TOO big ends up being useless. I honestly don't think it's worth drawing for Holos unless you're already big as it'll get lost in the crowd and the chuba will never retweet it herself.
Mid-sized indies and a few of the Nijis that are actively retweeting their fanart are probably best for this sort of thing.
However, I'll tell you right now that followers for your art doesn't translate into stream views very well. Maybe if you advertise art streams but for general stuff? Not really.

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>>22933404
True, if you get lucky you can get that sweet niji retweet and have lots of eyes on you, so keep at it. Good luck, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22928855
You will NEVER be white and that's a good thing!

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>>22932643
If you're not rebranding as a vtuber then understand and apply psychology. For some heuristics like beautiful is good applies just as well to voices. Some people are just better at phone sex jobs or telemarketing because they have an attractive voice. That creates a small benefit, that benefit feeds their ego, their ego fuels their confidence, confidence is even more attractive. If that wont help you then astroturfing and the usual fake stuff might work too. Ride band wagons like a... Well you get the point. Lastly be unhinged, people want to watch a train wreck not a nice person having a good day, just don't take it too far.

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>>22931739
What's the new complete list of /asp/ babis

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>>22932321
Anon
Hear out my wisdom
Never draw with the symmetry grid
Symmetry grid is more often than not a gimmick, not a tool.
She looks cute, but it's not healthy for you as an artist, and you are limiting your own freedoms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22932643
>Is there really any concrete way of growing bigger that isn't just complete luck?
yes but it takes a lot of work which is why most chuubas give up and dont even try.
>I've been making fanart for other vtubers
this is not the way to grow. this is just making fanart of vtubers. unless your art is god tier this will never net you any viewers.
>only an average of 6.3 viewers
it's literally impossible for anyone on /asp/ to provide you feedback when the only thing you tell the thread is a number. no mention of your content, what you stream, what you do, how you act on stream.

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>>22932643
Yeah your idea was poaching viewers through posting fanart on twitter. Why did that ever seem to you like it would appeal to people?

If it does they only want your art not your opinions. You're barely a person to the internet, you're just a source of free or cheap art. Vtubers probably like you because the art is about them and is easy content and you probably do it for free. You're just a means to an end for them. If only you knew someone that did fanart for free but the algorithm is hiding them from you.

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>>22933978
i would say that even god tier, if not proper managed, will lead to barelly nothing...

[Anonymous No.]

what exactly a "manager" do?
agency, group... is there a difference?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22933978
This desu.
If you want good and accurate advice, post your streams. If you wont even post that, then just dont expect anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22934395
>If you want good and accurate advice, post your streams. If you wont even post that, then just dont expect anything.
This should be in the op

[Anonymous No.]

>>22933978
>>22934155
I actually have gotten a few viewers off my art. Art draws people in, it can be a hook. And if nothing else it might grab me a commission or too which goes into a streaming fund anyways. I'm not losing anything off of drawing fanart.
As for
>it's literally impossible for anyone on /asp/ to provide you feedback
I don't really want to associate myself with a late night vent, but I have link posted and asked for advice before. It's all things I already understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22932643
In short, no. But, you *can* increase your chances of getting lucky. Here's a few tips I've gleaned from experience:

(1) Consistently generate funny, cute, or otherwise entertaining moments on stream. Don't wait for these to happen 'organically', force them to happen. Forcing them might feel disingenuous at first, but just remember that all entertainers are disingenuous to a degree, especially vtubers. Then clip the shit out of those moments and post them all over. Do some light video editing to add to whatever vibe you're going for. You want your clips to be as short and punchy as possible.

(2) Avoid any hashtag that involves the phrase "vtuber." It's ok to use these tags to get going on an initial following, but once you've achieved step 1 AND you have followers that are consistently sharing your shit it's time to ditch them. People don't go to those tags to find new vtubers to watch, those tags exist solely for indies and they just tie you into the ponzi scheme. Instead, tag your posts using something relevant to what you're posting. If you're playing apex, use apex tags. If you're singing, use singing tags. Etc.

(3) Literally ask your viewers to shill you. Do it at the end of your stream, as the people who have sat through the entire thing will be your most loyal (dare I say 'useful') viewers. I'll even give you a script: "Hey guys, before I go, can I ask a quick favor? If you've been enjoying my streams, would you mind helping to spread the word about my channel? Retweets, sharing clips, anything helps really. I'd really appreciate it. *cute laugh*"

These are the most ethical tips I can give

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>>22934509
>Retweets, sharing clips, anything helps really. I'd really appreciate it. *cute laugh*"
I can see my chat filling up with "cringe" already! Do this if you're a female.

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>>22934590
>I can see my chat filling up with "cringe" already!

It really won't, you're just anxious. Content creators asking for free promotion is a trick as old as time

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>>22934471
Okay then keep doing that if it's working for you.

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>>22934509
This is helpful, thank you
For 1, do you have any specific example or just... Way to force clippable moments? And are there any good free editing tools for clips other than the built in twitch clipping system? Should clips go on YouTube as well as twitch, and if so, should they be vertical and made in to shorts? Sorry if that's a lot of questions, I just want to make sure I get this right

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>>22934471
>I actually have gotten a few viewers off my art. Art draws people in, it can be a hook.
sounds like you're doing fine. fuck off then.

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>>22933876
Everyone uses symmetry tool when drawing models retard, you can't mirror in live2d if the base is not symmetrical

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>>22934693
>force clippable moments
not the anon, but you can clip the most random shit, granted someone in chat think it's funny or entertaining. Here's a streamer just talking about a squirrel in his backyard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anyxVf17b84

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>>22934693
A specific example I've seen someone do recently is from a Fallout New Vegas stream, where Doc Mitchell flips the ink blots.
And saying "smash, wait, no, sorry"

It wasn't really funny in isolation, but with the current meme, it sort of works.

Also, embrace saying things that can be taken out of context. Play into the coomerbrain

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>>22929717
>>22935011
shameless aris sub spotted

[Anonymous No.]

>>22935086
keep it down

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>>22934693
Yeah no prob, and no worries you're all good.

>Way to force clippable moments?
Basically, if anything reaction-worthy happens, you have to overreact. For example, if something funny occurs, laugh a little bit more than you normally would, talk about why you think it's funny, etc. You should try not to go completely overboard with your exaggerations, but it's up to you to feel out what the line is given your specific audience. Having said that, do remember- you DON'T have to nail the moment on stream. You can stitch it together to make it more funny in post. What really matters is that you can twist it to be sharable.

>are there any good free editing tools for clips
First, I'm going to say this- try your heart out to get your hands on adobe premiere pro. If you have a VPN and can torrent, do that. Adobe's a shitty company and they make bank, so don't feel bad about it. If you're a student, check and see if there's a license available through your school. If ALL else fails, then give lightworks a try.

> Should clips go on YouTube as well as twitch, and if so, should they be vertical and made in to shorts?
They should go everywhere. Actually, I'd argue that youtube and twitch are the lowest priority. Embedded videos on twitter will get you further. This is unpopular here, but tiktoks will get you further still. You want to prioritize platforms that are built for sharing. As far as format, that's up to you. If you're computer-minded, it can also help to understand the algorithms behind typical searchengines/social media sites and how to game them. Good places to start would be Google's pagerank algorithm, as well as the mathematics behind TF-IDF.

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>>22932321
feel free to tell me to fuck off if I'm just projecting my own preferences over your art but the proportions feel kinda off to me. this is probably how I personally would adjust it. it's not clean or anything cause I'm at work and did it on my phone real quick.
changes:
legs longer, waist tiny bit longer.

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>>22932321
anon it's been over a month why are you still posting the same pic every day?

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>>22934471
Remember to come back in a month and post an update of your progress.

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>>22934509
>(1) Consistently generate funny, cute, or otherwise entertaining moments on stream. Don't wait for these to happen 'organically', force them to happen. Forcing them might feel disingenuous at first, but just remember that all entertainers are disingenuous to a degree, especially vtubers. Then clip the shit out of those moments and post them all over. Do some light video editing to add to whatever vibe you're going for. You want your clips to be as short and punchy as possible
this is what chibidoki did in the beginning. it works.

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>>22932321
Do you mind getting crits about the face?

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>>22935011
>>22935063
These are good examples, thank you!
>>22935126
Yeah I figured I'd end up pirating something if there's no better alternative lol. Not against it but it can be a pain sometimes
But thank you for the advice, I was worried people were just going to spam "reps muh reps" instead of giving tangible advice, so I really appreciate it.
>>22935317
I'm here frequently enough. If anything changes in a month from now I'll probably be back

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>>22935488
Yeah, no problem. Contrary to the advice typically given here, reps are like maybe 20% of the battle. The real success lies in distilling those reps and getting them seen, as I've described.

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>>22935384
My channel has a ton of clips on it but I wouldn't have the slightest idea what to do with them or where to put them.

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>>22935011
I feel like I've seen Aris posted here for streaming advice more often than usual now. Is he the one to go to for that?

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>>22932643
I'm still in the process of debuting as a vtuber, but I've helped two or three friends who grew their communities to (low) triple digits as fleshtubers by moderating chat, appearing on one or two streams, etc. A few tips I'd give you that I think too many people ignore:
-Figure out what works best for you and then spam it. I think a lot of streamers go down the variety rabbithole before they have the audience investment to support that. People initially start watching because they're fans of apex legends or visual novels or w/e rather than fans of *you,* eventually you want that to change but that's just how it is. You'll want to pick something that's got enough variety to it that it won't get repetitive, but once you find something like that gets you even modest incline you shouldn't switch from it until you really get the sense that you either have a dedicated core community OR you've reached the limits of your growth in that vein.
-Practice whatever it is that you do on stream outside of stream. The "easiest" way to get big quickly is to be really, really good at something and then attract the attention of people passionate about that thing who will then spread the word about you through their platforms. Being a musician, artist, high-elo gamer, etc. all help in this regard. Even if you don't have these talents, you can still read up on "softer" skills that all streamers have to use like improv and then hone your craft w/ those. Think of your streams almost like a set for a comedian or a concert for a musician: you want to already be confident and prepared going in. Once your audience likes you more they'll be willing to watch you learn a new skill while they watch and cheer you on, but initially you want to be impressing people with whatever assets you think are most entertaining.
-Create fan spaces and spend some time in them (but not too much). I don't want to go too far w/ this advice because this is how you wind up doing g/bfe and/or getting groomed, but creating a space where viewers can get together and talk amongst themselves even when you're not streaming will let you create social cohesion between fans and occupy more hours of their online leisure time. Fans also want to get praise and recognition in their own right, so artists, clippers, etc. are much more likely to make content about you if they know how to easily find the audience that'll consume that content and they care about what that audience thinks of them. You then float around in that space as much or as little as you like (within reason), praising individuals who make the best stuff on your own socials so that everyone sees you're taking notice.
-Upload consistent schedules, even if your viewership is low. If your viewership is REALLY low, consider tailoring that schedule (within reason) to your most reliable viewers. Twitch and Susan won't promote your stream w/ 10 viewers to the top of anyone's notifications, so you need to establish expectations early on if you want viewers right on the edge of commitment to remember you're live and then tune in.
-Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Right off the last point, I think too many new streamers think one really entertaining stream a week is better than three or four decent streams a week. You do want to make streams that put your best foot forward and feature moments that can go viral/get clipped, but you shouldn't exclusively rely on these to blow your viewership numbers up overnight. The internet is very fickle, and you'll need something fairly regular to keep people's attention even if you DO get that 15 minutes of fame.
There's probably more I'm forgetting/too bored to type, but these are some of the biggies. I guess my last piece of advice is don't get discouraged, if you look at the careers of some past vtubers who're incredibly successful now you'll find years of relative obscurity and grind. Only you can say how long you're willing to improve your craft with very little external validation before you blow up, but you shouldn't feel sad now just because you're not seeing results overnight.

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>>22935611
I dunno, but he has been doing it for ten years and I personally enjoy his streams. Funny guy with a good attitude imo
Watching enough of him also got me to quit smoking weed fwiw

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>>22935720
>Think of your streams almost like a set for a comedian or a concert for a musician: you want to already be confident and prepared going in.
this. this is why there are millions of streamers on twitch who never grow. they just start streaming and play games. no one wants to watch a literal who just playing games. you need to provide value and the best way to do that is to treat your streams seriously and prepare for them.

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>>22934395
Indod the past two or so streams (I think) and had no responses…
https://youtu.be/flok9kxK-oI
https://youtu.be/Cunf-s-8pXE
https://youtu.be/ViS_B7PyV1U

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>>22935611
He's a great example of being so naturally entertaining that the community does the growing for him.

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>>22935975
I did*

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>>22935783
Longer if you also count his commentary and podcast. Being a competitive fighting game player also helped him. In the early days of his stream he was calmer and streamed longer, but a lot of fgc people seem to be good at banter because of the trash talking.

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>>22936055
Yes, I'd be remiss to not mention that as well. That's practically where his audience for streaming came from in the first place.

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>>22935913
This really is it. Shitty streamers playing ____ game and mumbling to themselves at 720p are abundant and low-value. Find yourself a niche that sets you apart from others and you'll be well on your way to growth, even if it's not explosive growth or w/e

[Anonymous No.]

>>22935975
I feel like you've gotten so much feedback from /asp/ that people have genuinely run out of things to say about your streams without sounding mean. I'd say take the past few advices and plan some offstream content and clips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22935975
I say this all with the best intent.
>General
Your streams are a bit too low energy. Speak more clearly. If you're going to have chat on screen at least make it readable.
>MC
Your minecraft gameplay is hard to watch because of how janky the fps is. You somehow make an absurdly low amount of progress in the game for 2 hours and you didn't really get into any interesting content. Minecraft is a very popular streaming game but for the big corpos the content comes from building thematic stuff or interacting with their friends. For you, you're really just playing a game that everyone has already played and seen a hundred times. Do something different or have a plan with it if you're going to play it on stream.
>Art
Your art isn't bad but that doesn't necessarily make you good at art streaming. You gotta be able to get something down and looking "decent" quickly. You don't want a viewer tuning in and seeing an absolute mess like your sketch layers do for quite some time. Don't try to go for overly complex or full body art, just sketch quick and cute stuff with some chat input.

Nothing specific to say about the MK one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22936112
>720p
Ha! I stream at 576p so that doesn't apply to me

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of how people do streaming I've noticed there are some streamers that build a stream based around self-aggrandizing cult of personality. Then other streamers that build a stream around providing a service.

I don't really know which is best, but the former is probably most common. For Vtubers they usually use their audience to impress other vtubers they want to get closer to. The other kind is more along the lines of Cohh, BurkeBlack, and so on. They also seem to get the most sponsorships and tie ins with games, get invited to events or voice lines, and so on. I'm not sure I can think of any vtuber that has that kind of stream.

[Anonymous No.]

Unrelated, but does anybody have a PDF of Haruki Murakami's translation of the catcher in the rye?

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished designing my own Sonic OC and about to play Sonic Mania!! Woah!

https://www.twitch.tv/Cordy_ch

[Anonymous No.]

>>22936467
>general
Noted, I have a couple ideas on why I’m generally low energy, might be posture, or could be vision-related (not fixed by glasses) causing it.
>MC
I was screwing around with shaders, but clearly I need to go to the lowest setting if I want anything above… what was that, 30fos? While making it look good.
I tried setting goals for the streams but yes, I end up being slow as hell to start which isn’t good. Doesn’t help again with what I noted above.
>art
Ditto with above. I honestly think that I should avoid doing most types of streams until I can get cataract surgery

[Anonymous No.]

>>22930439
I stream in english, aber du kannst mich mit einer Kanalpunkt-Einlösung für eine minute deutsch reden lassen.

I like speaking english more, that's all really. I want to become really good at it.

[Anonymous No.]

is this peak babi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22935975
Agree with >>22936467 on everything, but will also add:

You have mush mouth. Meaning you kinda like slur/squish what you say together so that it comes out mushy sounding. It is not pleasant and it is often difficult to understand. That + the low energy makes it a major "no" from me.

Low energy can be okay...if you play comfy games and enunciate. But doesn't pair will with fast paced/interesting content.

I recommend practicing on how to speak clearly. Google some youtube vids. Do tongue twisters. Put a cork in your mouth and try and say coherent things despite the blockage. Anything.

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>>22936467
>Minecraft is a very popular streaming game but for the big corpos the content comes from building thematic stuff or interacting with their friends.
this is wrong and shows how little viewers understand about minecraft. minecraft is a popular streaming game for indies because it's a zatsudan in disguise. you get a chance to have a conversation with the chuuba while they're idly working on something. even in all of the corpo's minecraft streams, it's a zatsudan.

>you're really just playing a game that everyone has already played and seen a hundred times.
it doesn't matter. no one is playing minecraft for the story elements. it's a zatsudan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22933876
>>22935143
>>22935206
>>22935424
It’s another anon that is drawing and rigging for me…

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1459496446
please crit my stream anonchamas

[Anonymous No.]

>>22937651
then shut the fuck up and wait for it to be finished. why are you trying to pander to 4chan? are you seriously trying to get feedback from /asp/ to forward to your artist and rigger? do your fucking stream reps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22935975
You remind me of that tweet that said some of you are not comfy streamers you're just boring. You have a nice voice but just get better at talking, you sound extremely tired

[Anonymous No.]

Low energy seems to work best when you have a soothing soundtrack. If it's just deafening silence and awkward mumbling inbetween silence people will nope out of that so fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22937204
Babi alert!

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>>22937720
You have potential, start marketing yourself outside of 4chan!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22937718
Honestly I don’t know why I posted it in the first eye lace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22937986
place* fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>22937986
>>22938029
stop shitting up the thread and go do your reps. why are you even lurking here? you've gotten all the feedback you possible can and only streamed three times. do more reps and stop wasting your time looking for feedback on an empty portfolio.

[Anonymous No.]

I got some great feedback last thread about my YouTube videos, but another thing I really need to work on is streaming. I just so happen to have a recorded game that I thought I was streaming, but I actually pressed the record button.
It'd be really helpful if some kind anons would take a look at it and provide some feedback, since it's a good demonstration of how my stream is when there's nothing particularly exciting going on: https://youtu.be/yGsP-2wyPEA
Feel free to skim through it as you please

[Anonymous No.]

>>22938308
>league playing aspie
what server

[Anonymous No.]

>>22938308
if you're not good enough to play and talk at the same time don't stream league. there are way too many gaps in your talking and you have an uninteresting model that doesn't help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22937720
You're too cute.

[Anonymous No.]

Drawfag doing the model here.
>>22935143
Noted, I was thinking about that as well, good thing I wasn't using the biggest canvas size so I can still make it bigger.
>>22935424
Shoot, draw on top if you need to, I'm always up for feedback and criticism.
>>22933876
The symmetry grid is necessary when making a front facing live2d model, at least for the base, if the model isn't uniform by design I can just turn it off and manually modify each side. Bodysuit anon's model is very symmetrical if you ignore the legs though.
But yeah, if I was requested a 3/4 model, or a model in an specific pose, sure symmetry is mostly useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22938308
Personally i find games like league incredibly easy to stream, because even if you just do play by play commentary you can fill 99% of the time and you can cut any of that to talk about other things. I shouldn't really comment on it, because I'll judge the gameplay too much. It's a good rep for learning how to reduce dead air to nothing, try to watch popular league streamers and see how their stuff is doing. babus is pretty popular right now and he's not even that energetic.

I always thought there's no point streaming league because it will have 0 retention outside of it, but maybe as long as I'm master i should use the opportunity. League and apex have always been easy streams, but never stuff I actually wanted to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22938761
>>22938308
would you collab league with me.. (I'm very bad)

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>>22938308
https://voca.ro/1og9UD53DM8o

[Really Cool No.]

>>22938308
https://voca.ro/1bTEWGq6IZ2f

[Anonymous No.]

>>22938986
I'm EU probably not your region, but i probably wouldn't mind. I just don't play alternative gamemodes just SR. I like playing flex also i'm pretty bad too, solo q elo doesn't matter we are all hardstuck in pisslow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22939175
I'm EUW

[Anonymous No.]

>>22938396
The deep orbital jungles of Brazil, unfortunately

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>>22937720
You sound tired and keep quiet long moments. Not asking for non stop talking but you should try talk a little bit more.
Overall is good and agree with agree with >>22937859
Here is a new follower for (You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>22938634
>The symmetry grid is necessary when making a front facing live2d model
This is incorrect.
You can shove anything into a live 2d and it would work.
I think it's better to avoid using symmetry grid in drawing, but I don't know enough to explain why I feel this way. Please look more into it if it interests you.
No pro uses a symmetry grid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22939353
>No pro uses a symmetry grid.
it's a fucking anon on 4chan volunteering their time to make a model. fuck off with this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22939231
eurofags... i'm not sure what kind of collab you have in mind, i don't mind appearing on your stream.

https://twitter.com/truekaiser_ can shoot me dm, no dick pics unless you are cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>22939170
Thank you for the feedback, that's super helpful stuff.
A lot of the time when I stream I have 2-3 people on chat to talk to, which usually reduces those silent gaps, it's just this time I hadn't checked things properly, so there was no chat to talk to.
The starting soon screen is a nice idea, I'll look into that for sure.
The whole point of me streaming League is that it's the game I've been enjoying the most for the past year, and I want to be more communicative, since I'm probably not going to be as good as the high elo streamers, so the selling point of my streams is to be more laid back and conversational.
There's two League creators that I look up to in terms of streams, which are Skooch and Zwag, who play the game more casually, even though Zwag is high elo.
The latter is really relaxed and laid back, which is a style I personally enjoy, and Skooch, even though I can't muster 10% of his energy, sees the game in a very unique and positive way, which I try to emulate.
As far as the videos go, I'm happy with my growth so far, but I want to reach the level of quality of another youtuber, called Vars, who can talk pretty much about any topic and people will listen.
I cite him as well because he's not stuck to just League content, but also makes videos about Genshin Impact and more recently Smash Bros, and I don't want to have my content restricted to just one game forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>22939388
We are all humans on planet earth.
Anyone putting a pencil to a paper or a pixel to a screen are welcome to put themselves up to pro standard.
I would be insulting anon if I were to treat him like a dumb kid on the internet who doesn't matter.

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>>22939353
>No pro uses a symmetry grid.
anonchama... have you seen pro vtuber models?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22939774
Based medaka-anon.

[Anonymous No.]

I think I might end up moving MK8DX to tomorrow night instead and focus on either seeing if I can cobble together some clips (if anything is salvageable) or just draw which might be my better content option right now.

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>>22939353
>This is incorrect.
No it's not, It's like you read only the first part of my post anon,
>if the model isn't uniform by design I can just turn it off and manually modify each side.
>But yeah, if I was requested a 3/4 model, or a model in an specific pose, sure symmetry is mostly useless.

>You can shove anything into a live 2d and it would work.
Yeah, you can shove whatever into live2d and somehow make it work, that doesn't mean it's the most efficient way of doing it. You should also take into account that when using a symmetrical model it's easier to change the pose via rigging, giving you the option of making the model asymmetrical.
>No pro uses a symmetry grid.
Dude, himono, one of the best riggers, uses symmetry grids all the time.
vid related, 3/4 model yet she still uses the symmetry grid for the face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LqS6sIziRQ

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>>22939353
You're a moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22940397
No no no, you don't understand! They're not a pro. A pro is whatever arbitrary requirement I can assign until i find someone who fits my rhetoric

[Anonymous No.]

>>22934377
pls respond

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>>22939353
I just came here to laugh at you

[Anonymous No.]

>>22934377
A talent manager (which is typically what orgs have) are usually people who understand content creation on a technical level and are able to help you grow using that information. They can handle things like finding the necessary freelancers (artists, editors, clippers, etc), promotion and PR, helping show you what type of content will help you grow the best, helping identify your target audience and grow your brand, etc. I've known 2 people with a managers personally (one currently in the 600 viewer range) but I'm kind of afraid to say who they are because I don't recall if it's public information and I can't find anything on their socials so it probably isn't but they've helped them out a lot and alleviate a lot of the stress of being a bigger content creator.

Some people have "managers" who are just their friends doing this but in a lot of those smaller cases those friends are mildly successful artists or youtubers who still have a lot of information to share

Like imagine /asp/ but they actually know what they're talking about and the information has actually worked for them or their clients.

[Anonymous No.]

I like streaming.
I hate everyone who shows up in my chat.

A few times I tried looking at the twitters of people who follow me and it's either the most ill adjusted socially awkward freaks, vtweeters or /here/tubers "networking", or just general bots that have 300k people they're following.

I especially hate all the /here/tubers trying to network. It's so fucking annoying because they clearly don't give a fuck about the stream and are just trying to shill their names around.

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>>22941311
You sound like an asshole!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941344
I just have no patience for 2 faces beta males.
"Networking" is about building friendships, not going through a checklist for 500 different streamers to say hi to every few hours then ignore. If you're not there to hang out then fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941433
>"Networking" is about building friendships
networking is business connections not friendships.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the opsec stuff serious? I get it if you're auditioning for corpo but most independents used to be streamers. The ones that try to hide it just come off as unhinged and everyone cringes when someone points out they sound like a streamer that vanished before the person gets banned.

What are some good real examples of an independent vtuber getting drama because they didn't delete all their info from the internet and create a totally new identity?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941311
I thought that's why you signed up to twitter because you like that stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941485
This is autism.
Do whatever you want, no one will care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941485
The opsec stuff is not really for your previous identity as a streamer, but your previous identity as a human being.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941452
Business connections are built on friendship and trust. Not random vendors who shoved a business card in your hand.

Network between streamers is people you've worked with and can trust. If your not working with them your not networking in a business sense.
Otherwise you "network" with people you enjoy being around or have a connection with.

Saying hi and showing your face around is the cheap bullshit advice failures who've never worked in business will tell you to do. Actual networking is just people's private group of friends/coworkers they've worked with in the past and hit up when needed.

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>>22941657
go make a twitlonger no one cares

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>>22941485
Froot got drama over her past cheating stuff, not that anyone really cares but it's a thing.
I think nyanners had a few issue here and there but ignores it for the most part.

I suppose if you want to bring up the whole bunny drama that happened, that'd be pretty big.

[Anonymous No.]

How would you solve having low energy?
What kinds of issues would you suspect for someone who chronically shows low energy on stream?
I have my own suspicions for myself that I’m starting to investigate.
Polite sage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941657
In general with the networking stuff and the like streamers always reminded me of when anyone with a blog tried to get press passes for stuff.

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>>22941657
idk man but if you're this bitter and negative I doubt you will never "network" with anyone, I hope you get better soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941907
Health things?

Are you fat? Are you in shape? Do you eat healthy? Do you have diabetes? Do you have an autoimmune disorder? Long covid? Any combination of the above?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941907
Low energy as in low endurance, or low "mood" energy? As in you're boring and calm? I think the latter is more of a mental/personality thing than a physical one though it could be both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941907
Well, to begin with, eat and sleep properly so you have energy. It could also be an attitude problem, sometimes people get taught to not be loud or too expressive, check if you're like this in general and if this is the case try little by little to break out of this.

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>>22941485
https://voca.ro/1lpJZwJW1jax

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941657
nta but I think that a lot of that song and dance is people trying to ease their way into a more natural relationship. People I've "networked" with in the past and am fairly friends with now have done the same weird social shit. We look back on how silly it was back then but at the same time getting a DM out of the blue from a stranger because they noticed we have similar interests would've struck me as much more odd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22942240
It can work out but more often it's just forced nonsense from autists doing the vtuber equivalent of PUA.

It's not that hard really
>have down time
>open up a random vtuber you like
>hang out in their chat for a while chatting with them
>leave when you have other things to do
If you can't hang out in their chat for a decent amount of time then you probably don't care enough about them to make "networking" worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22942171
thank you anon it was nice to listen to you.

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>>22941907
https://voca.ro/1hvotHQs69gQ

[Anonymous No.]

Cordy is downright the most cringe streamer of this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22942420
>I found that cocaine helps
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>22942171
I have a few identities. One day a streamer was reminiscing about me and my work from 15 years ago which was insane. I also have another identity that had some 4chan stalkers from a blog. Another thread identity where a whole general thread made insane conspiracies about me and pretended to be me for years even after I stopped posting. Lately people just treat me like crap because I never reveal anything about myself anymore.

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>>22941311
>>22941433
>>22941657
Thanks for the new meme.

[Anonymous No.]

So there is even a schizo want to control people how to use twitter now?

[Anonymous No.]

hey /asp/, i'm gonna go live with some more rpg maker strimming because i want to get started on my new project

https://www.twitch.tv/truekaiser

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941907
Fake it till you make it, and form rituals like sportshumans do.
I personally hype myself up by doing shitty impressions (privately, and usually gratingly) or sometimes listening to a random song that popped in my head at that particular moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22937617
>it's a zatsudan.
True but you need a chat to interact and zatsudan with in that case. Or just be a god at talking to yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22944021
If you can't talk to yourself you'll never be a good streamer. Even streamers with chats spends most of it talking to themselves, and once you get big enough the chat is mostly nonsense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22944021
>you need a chat to interact and zatsudan with
what are you talking about? make up yes or no questions and give yourself a yes or no answer and carry on with the convo.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks anyone who dropped by for my stream!

>>22937850
No longer a babi, this is my new design. I'm a Sonic OC-tuber and my names Cordy the Rabbit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22944061
Sure you can. There are plenty of streamers that are very on with an active chat, but do much worse if it is a slow day.

[Anonymous No.]

I like to lurk on /asp/ies and see how they're doing, I'm happy to see that a handful of them are actually doing really well. 2 of them are actually on a rapid incline? Omedetou. This anon is proud of you guys, and you guys are golden stamp GMI. Keep it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>22944671
>2 of them are actually on a rapid incline?
Which? I haven't seen much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22944168
So furry babi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22944168
>nice male voice
>wasted on babi and sonic autism
take the maletuber pill

[Anonymous No.]

>>22939353
You are an idiot. I have made models and know many many artists that make them. You use the symmetry tool. For everyday art? Sure. But for Vtuber models? almost 100% necessary, at very least in the initial phases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22944757
He just streamed sonic and is shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>22937204
I'm sorry but the babi thing is really jarring and it's hard to watch. take the maletuber pill

[Anonymous No.]

>>22937204
I'm sorry but the alchemist thing is really jarring and it's hard to watch. take the magictuber pill

[Anonymous No.]

>>22944948
That's unfortunate anon. I'm sorely aware that I would have better market appeal as a maletuber but honestly I just have fun with things this way. Thanks for checking it out anyways!

>>22945012
i put on my robe and wizard hat

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>>22944671
who are inclining? i want to know which aspies need to spin rrats of and kill their social statuses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22944722
I mean she's always been the biggest ITT but Fushi for one. I always saw her at 20 views and whenever she streams recently I see her at 40 to 50, which is a pretty significant incline to me. The second one is the dog, I actually suspect he might be botting views because of the sharp increase but if he's not then he's doing well. Honorable mention for bunny, she's my personal favorite and I think her growth is solid even if it's not a significant jump. And other /asp/ies too, I see Kaiser and I feel proud. I'm going to miss the old model after he redesigns though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22945261
>The second one is the dog
he started streaming last week. this isn't an incline it's just being active.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22937204
I'm sorry but the blonde thing is really jarring and it's hard to watch. take the brunnettuber pill

[Anonymous No.]

>>22945261
doggo has a pretty decent community and its a decent ramp up due to actually having a schedule and consistently streaming. he has good connections with a few other 1k+ follower vtuber/vtweeters so i think he can make it to /wvt/ 40 ccv tier with a bit of time. and as opposed to most aspies he embraces normie memes so its a more palatable personality for the twitter crowd. im honestly suprised he even comes here considering the "toxic" culture we have but im a newer aspie from a month or so ago so idk how a lot of more veteran memebers came to be

[Anonymous No.]

>>22941433
I personally try to support as many /asp/ies as i can, but at best i can only keep up with two streams at a time

[Anonymous No.]

>>22942420
Oh hey you're back anon, I hope you don't mind me asking some more YouTube focused questions. You mentioned having multiple channels, I'm guessing you had different channels for different content/audiences? Because I had an idea of making a new channel for some content ideas that aren't necessarily related to "me". Obviously it'd be nice if I could do everything on one channel, and possibly have this alternate content be a hook to get subs, but of course there's the chance they are only interested in that alt content instead of my own stuff. Will I be doing the right thing by having a separate channel and instead cross promoting the two channels?

[Anonymous No.]

why do idiots move to texas/california over cosplaying and shit? e-girl vtuber i'm watching rn said she's moving out of canada to texas. why???

[Anonymous No.]

>>22946780
Texas in general is a great place to live with large businesses and a bustling social scene. Lots of things to do from traditional past times such as camping and horse back riding, to the more niche hobbies like some of the biggest anime conventions in America.
With no state income tax and high skill businesses aplenty, the quality of life in Texas is extremely high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22946780
from other places in the US, taxes I think
from canada? mental illness and stupidity

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone have old assets from sushi_sapo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22927279
>build a portfolio for agency auditions
What are you trying to sell your ass for companies for, are you gonna suck dick for money too

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
What, you don't know what games to stream? Do you not like playing games? Why would you stream games then?
Let me guess you dont care and just want to do whats popular

>>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
>Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content
really, you're not going to do something just because audiences won't like it? Are you a TV network or some shit?

>Parasocial Guide : https://pastebin.com/zmpCResg
what the fuck


Seriously if you want to start a business and make money, there are probably better and more profitable things to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22947409
Okay, man. But do consider necking yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>22939353

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>>22947409
Going into vtubing purely for money is something people wont ever watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>22927979
Sorry anon, I don't find the problem tho.
Asp help me a lot to grow (I'm not affiliate yet but i find my progress like quite well, dunno the words to explain it), i just wanted to help others that maybe struggles with english like me and meet other latam, euro and spanish speaking aspies for hanging out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22946561
In general, I will watch a stream if I'm actually entertained but I won't watch if it conflicts with my sleep schedule or I have work.

Which is a problem, because my oshi streams way too late into the night for me and it makes me a sad anon

[Anonymous No.]

Babis run this fucking thread!

[Anonymous No.]

would you watch a vtuber mukbang?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22948846
would you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22948894
I would, just wanted to know people's opinions on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22948961
there you go guy you answered your own question

[Anonymous No.]

>>22948846
mukbangs are gross as is

[Anonymous No.]

>>22948810
Correction awaits

[Anonymous No.]

would it be insane to pretend to be japanese but good at english

[Anonymous No.]

>>22951022
Yes. Whats the point in lying about that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22945775
Who's dog

[Anonymous No.]

Why does it seem like a lot of guys have an aversion to having an ikemen model? They'd rather be another catboy or babi. Do they think it would put off male viewers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22951022
i'm curious as to why this is a scheme that passed through your mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
Ikemen just aren't that attractive to guys, and people tend to want a model like they appealing.

[Anonymous No.]

Bodysuit anon again. To summarize all of the feedback that I’ve been given here and previously…
>stream more, make more content
>enunciate better/do your voice reps
(I actually watched a video from Booth Junkie a while ago where he mentioned keeping a cork around for his vocal exercises. Something for me to try on my own.)
>Have a set of goals for your stream, and stick to them, don’t screw around for 30–40 minutes with random things/messy sketches/etc., or pause extensively
>Interact on social media, post or retweet things relevant to your character
(Treating the account as if it was a normal account and posting about your day or weekend plans etc. and asking open-ended questions also help with engagement, right?)
I think that’s really it? I’ve seen comments about how my voice is good but just mushy/tired/dead-sounding, I really hope that I can fix that over time on my own. I actually never considered myself having a nice voice, but even as far back as 2010 I was told I had a voice for radio, so maybe you are all onto something there…
Thanks for everything so far, I appreciate it even if some can be a bit “tough love”. I absolutely need it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
When i commed my PNG from Miyo she suggested making it ikemen but i decided against it because i lack the voice to pull of an ikemen, went with shota

[Anonymous No.]

>>22953018
KLOVE MIYO

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
In my case, I prefered going with a shota because my voice isn't deep enough to do an ikemen's voice and I also prefer a cute model than a handsome one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
pretty sure every twitter male vtuber that is doing well is doing ikemen or some of of gay bait, i think it can be a bit jarring to use an ikemen design but have a nerd voice or speech pattern so thats why most /here/ dudes go for wacky designs or babi and a lot of them dont want to appeal to female directly and wants to be brotuber.

>>22951886
https://twitter.com/ZUNLIVER

[Anonymous No.]

>>22953435
ILOVE MIYO

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
It will put off male viewers. The sweet spot is Roberu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22953467
>>22953353
You did your besht

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952869
Now time to find some voice training videos, plan my day tomorrow ( I need to get a cart/riser for my PC since it’s on the floor now so should go to the dollar store for corks), and draw… Either cyberpunk magical girl, cybermeido, or ???
Maybe look at a way to mount my cheap ring light for when Marburg finishes the model, I already have a Satechi R1 ordered for my iPhone 12 Pro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
Part of being a vtuber is you can be literally anything you want. Why would I then choose to be something that I really dislike, an ikemen character, rather than something I like? Obviously if I was seriously in this for the money and targeting the fujo/yume market I would set aside what I like and do the most marketable thing but I'm not. I want to incline I just want to do it the way I find most fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
I want to be an ikemen because I always wanted to be a part of boyband or at least have that boyband aesthetics.
But I'm currently planning to go with a chibi png first as to not turn off the guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
>it's expensive getting a good artist for ikemen models
>most indies stream for themselves as a hobby so they want to larp something they enjoy, an ikemen design is fujobaiting by default and requires you to coomerbait and act like a manslut on stream
>insecurity and low self esteem
>perceived voice mismatch due to anime and movies
>don't want to be outed as a sexpest
many reasons

[Anonymous No.]

>>22948846
i'd rather watch a mukbang

[Anonymous No.]

>>22954477
i checked out an alleged sex pest and he literally said to his collab partner "your smelly pussy" and "i make you moan later" , i thought twitter puritans are against that shit but i guess theres still a subset of cock starved e girls ready to hop on ikemen dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>22955389
yes because people on twitter aren't a single unified monolith. the same way there are simps who will lust after a man hating woman because drama doesn't effect then, there are women who will lust after sexpests because the drama doesn't effect them either.

[Anonymous No.]

How many chuubas have novelty models? What kind of novelty designs do you like?

[Anonymous No.]

hi /asp/friends could i get crit on my first stream
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1463169617

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
Even if there's a chance I could pull it off with my voice, I'm a massive autist and have no idea how to actually fujobait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22956506
basic bitch voice / 10

decent-good overall though just doing a quick speed watch through, you carry through talking well enough.
Could use more emotional or tone variation in your voice though, its really flat throughout everything I went through so you could use a little more variation or excitement to keep peoples interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22956497
bunny girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>22953462
9 hour streams out of nowhere and over 100 followers in 3 days?

https://sullygnome.com/channel/zunlive/3

DYRBI? No botting?

[Anonymous No.]

/Asp/ies.... Black souls stream doko....

[Anonymous No.]

>>22927279
tried changing the eye style

[Anonymous No.]

Which /asp/ie is for mating press?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22957935
I'm going to alice.
Just a british joke!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22957954
Looks really nice. I really like the dark outlines.
Is there a way to not make them bunch up at the top the head though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22957981
Bear, bodysuit, cordy w/ voice changer and Konrad's witch

[Anonymous No.]

>>22958061
im sorry, could you rephrase this question?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22957954
If this is VRoid you should definitely open comms, you have talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>22958363
could do with a few comms, im so broke lol
if anyone wants one i could probably do for cheap or somethin

[Anonymous No.]

>>22958263
I feel like there are too many outlines on the top of your head when you look straight ahead. Maybe it looks better from another angle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22958523
those are vroid lines, you can make the black lines thinner but ya probably cant bunch em up

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently this is my natural resting face that Vtube Studio picks up (using iPhone).
...Is there a setting that I can change, or do I need to smile? Trying to get used to controlling live2d before I get my model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22957596
it's 100 followers you can do that in a week with some networking. no one gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22953816
I decided to spend a little bit of time to figure out how to mount the ring light... it's jank as fuck but I guess it works (even though it's pretty far away and it was designed to be pretty close.) Currently mounted to a Gorlliapod with the arms over the closet door next to me.... Maybe I need something more like a softbox-style or flat (bright) LED panel.
/blog

[Anonymous No.]

>>22958632
MY PHONE DIED AND THIS HAPPENED
I-is this what happens by default when the wifi connection dies? The model just goes to this emotion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22958632
in vseeface you'll want to go to this page in the settings and mess with the smile input; the numbers on the left represent how much of a smile or frown you need; make a smile and frown at your camera to see what the camera reads so you'll know how much you'll need to smile for a full smile/change it to what you want it to smile at

[Anonymous No.]

>>22959106
Does VSF work with Live2D? Is it any better than Vtube Studio? IIRC Vtube Studio does have a connection setting for VSF on iOS, but isn't VSF on Windows/etc. for 3D?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
Honestly? I don't really want to pander to fujos at all. The kind of viewers I want are people who like come see me for my content, not my model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22959106
I'm a dumb and didn't look at the pic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22959272
oh sorry i'm a fuckin idiot this is vtube studio lmfao i don't know why i said vsf

[Anonymous No.]

>>22959273
that's bullshit because you wouldn't bother with a model in the first place then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22959056
Dudes I think Vtube Studio has a mind of its own...
She's mad at me for leaving her hanging... I didn't change a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22959056
It sticks at the frame it left off. That emotion can be toggled (though I don't remember the specific keys) or can be done by sticking out your tongue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22958632
I don't have an iphone but the way i fix it when using my webcam is to press the big calibrate button while having a neutral face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22959385
It's not bullshit though. I bother with a model because I like it and I don't have to put up with my ugly face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22959527
you don't need a webcam or face at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22959614
>you don't need a webcam or face at all.
>or face
>face
sad_girldm_noises.rm

[Anonymous No.]

>>22958754
Let it happen we can see the ngmis getting upset over 100 followers. I doubt the crab is even affiliate yet. Zunlive isn't even big, anons just looking for shit to crab about

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>>22946622
https://voca.ro/1bt2Bmtomgbw
Sorry both late and gay but if anyone else has some general youtube, buisness etc questions I'm happy to answer them

[Anonymous No.]

Anons, I'm really happy I picked up this hobby. I've been doing a lot of vocal reps recently and being able to see my slow but steady improvement has been so fun!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22958903
I didn't draw... yet. Even though it is 12:23am here. And i really should be getting to sleep. Shit son.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22960861
Thanks anon, giving motivations of when/why you split channels really helped. Only doing it when you're big enough is the same takeaway I suppose, my initial example in mind was the game/film/food theory splits. And yeah thinking about it myself, being consistent is tough, being consistent for 2 channels is even worse. Since my original post I've actually been working on the video that "would have" been for the second channel, but considering I'm only half way through editing it, maybe I'll do it as a once every now and then on my current channel instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>22957981
Self harm anon and Mashi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22957596
Alright you've baited me I'll check out your chuuba. My only comment is: 9 hour streams in succession and he doesn't shut the fuck up once? Christ. Impressive zatsudan skill. He's going places.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22956506
AH ARE YOU... ARE YOU... AUSTRALIAN!?!?!
IM GONNA... watch you

[Anonymous No.]

>>22958432
got a twitter or something?

[Anonymous No.]

Slow night, asp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22968181
Yeah.
Might start pngtubing again but I don't want to /here/post about it. Just gonna do my thing on twitch and let things go where they go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22968181
people are probably doing their streaming reps, it was prime time EST a bit ago after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22968809
I actually find that trying to compete with primetime is pretty difficult. Usually I get higher ccv at more dead hours, like Sunday evenings

[Anonymous No.]

>>22956506
>Active chat right off the bat
>PNG tuber
>"How many accessories do you want?" "Yes"
You're one of those Twitter follow 4 follow cunts aren't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22969495
I actually only have like 15 followers on Twitter and barely post there so no

[Anonymous No.]

>>22969495
this is the weirdest shit you could look at her follower count and her twitter is linked in her bio
why are you like this
if anything she probably just got her friends to watch her because it helps some people out at the beginning to have that support

[Anonymous No.]

>>22956506
its a cool png and nothing stands out as being explicitly bad, try developing a specialty and do marketing reps

[Anonymous No.]

I like retro games and itch.io indie horror stuff. Is that good enough of a niche? I've heard retro games being mentioned as a debuff so I'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22971196
You can definitely make content out of itch.io horror games depending on how shitty/good they are. If you need help finding some to consistently play ManlyBadassHero on youtube does record a lot of them and you can gauge what ones you may like to play yourself.

Not sure how much of a debuff retro is on itself, I've seen some people just category it under the name of the game vs retro but you might need to play with it as you go!

[Anonymous No.]

It feels good to know that I'm at least one person's oshi.

I hit a big milestone today. I'm so glad I started vtubing. Thanks for existing, if this thread didn't give me the insight and drive I needed to just start streaming I may have never gotten going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22928482
Be on the lookout for when I debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952387
I simply don't identify with Ikemen. I identify more with most of the manlier shotas than I do with Ikemen.

[Anonymous No.]

What qualifies for brat behavior? If I want to be a mesugaki loli

[Anonymous No.]

>>22971196
I watch someone that almost exclusively does both of those things with a high CCV. There are no debuff games, but there are games that are harder to build a starting audience from out of nothing.
The way it ended up for the guy I'm watching, he had his whole audience built up from raids through people who played the games he was playing, and eventually it reached a point where he peaks as long as he's playing an indie game regardless of what it is.

[Anonymous No.]

What do you think about a vtuber guy? can it work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22972833
>can it work?
No, *clap clap* next meme!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22972863
OH NO! Please don't ruin my dreams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22972833
If you don't speak broken ESL english, the world is your oyster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22972833
>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
>First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22972950
parrdon_ Do you know pekora?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22943902
I do this plus a bunch of chuuni shit that I used to do as a joke
I bought an oni mask for halloween so do a little hamlet impression because it makes me feel less schizo if I pretend I'm acting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22973995
Based. I wish I had an oni mask.
I wish I could also not implode at the merest inkling of the memory of the unironic chunni shit I used to do. I think next time I have a job I'll buy a bunch of cool japanese masks to wear on the side of my face.
I only do hamlet to annoy my little sister, I typically go for macbeth, juliet, Holden Caulfield, Don Quixote (man of la mancha version), columbo, captain hook, and (recently, because twitter made me painfully aware of this guy), gilbert gottfried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22973413
Pekora is not a man plus she's Japanese so she gets a pass. I was mainly referring to French or German speakers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22972950
https://voca.ro/1oOzQeXpZYr3

[Anonymous No.]

>>22946780
Almost as if they aren't about the vtuber life, they're about the any means possible life and vtubing was just what worked for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22956506
Very cute rabbit character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22946780
Because there are more opportunities available. It's why most of the biggest streamers in general live in Texas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22975735
>the vtuber life
What the fuck is the Vtuber life?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22973413
Japanese gets a pass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22975998
Wanting to be a vtuber and make it as a vtuber as the ends and not just the means.

[Anonymous No.]

I wanted to do literally begging streams but then I found out that begging is illegal unless you pretend it's for some sort of exchange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22976382
>Begging streams
Explain? Like are you pretending to be a hobo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22976344
You've got a really strange fantasy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22976419
Like accepting money without anything in return to support and feed myself. It's living at the mercy of other people and the community.

So for subathons you're getting subs, donations usually show your message and are legally a gratuity for service, and patreon and so on are to support a service or get names in credits. Providing that kind of half-assed service would seriously affect my ascetic aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22976548
I hate when ironic retards like you shit up the thread even if it does give us a few bumps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22976520
Not really. I already anticipated this kind of response, the fantasy is in your own head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22976585
Maybe you're just a really angry individual. You should consider some anger management classes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22976548
You're providing them entertainment as a service. idk what part of the world you live in but begging is generally not considered a criminal activity. Maybe you're overthinking it and the law just means "No loitering outside McDonalds with a cardboard sign"?
Besides you can't base your personality around hoarding money. That's how to stay 2view forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22976855
In most of the US and EU it's considered criminal with various anti-begging laws. There are exemptions like religious begging and distributing homeless pamphlets but various legislators have been scared that living on the kindness of others would disrupt society. So the transactional component is meant to circumvent those laws. I was surprised when I looked into it and had thought it was legal just like you.
>Besides you can't base your personality around hoarding money.
Very curious take. I would say that it is literally the opposite. The methods used by popular streamers is how you hoard money and is very transactional and often heavily uses parasocial manipulation. Like that one "socialist" streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977202
> The methods used by popular streamers is how you hoard money and is very transactional and often heavily uses parasocial manipulation. Like that one "socialist" streamer.
You say this as if they got big solely by asking for money when that's rarely if ever the case outside of events. It's not the opposite at all, you're either overthinking it or being disingenuous and I'm honestly not sure which.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977202
>The methods used by popular streamers....
None of which are basing their personality around hoarding money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977202
By your logic every streamer in the EU and US are wanted for violating anti-begging laws.
>Very curious take. I would say that it is literally the opposite. The methods used by popular streamers is how you hoard money and is very transactional and often heavily uses parasocial manipulation.
Damn I guess you're right. I went to a cafe today and the girl there asked what I wanted. UHH No bitch. Stop trying to develop a parasocial relationship to sell me stuff. You're literally begging which is against anti-begging regulations. I DON'T want to help disrupt society.

[Anonymous No.]

thoughts?
https://www.twitch.tv/heykayabun

[Anonymous No.]

Are robot ears sexy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977490
Big sister vibes, I like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977490
I don't feel SOVL

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977490
Very cute model, nice voice and pretty decent commentary.
Not bad, has potential.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977283
>>22977340
You guys really don't seem to understand what it is and is not. I'm not arguing whether they deserve it but they have based a career around transactional gratuities which does let them hoard money. Begging does not.
Think more like Diogenes, Buddha, Lazarus, Wu Xun, little sisters of the poor, So Chan, and so on.
>>22977464
I already explained why they don't. Your story makes no sense, I shouldn't expect so much from /asp/ huh, lesson learned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977905
Why give someone money to subsist when you can give money to feel loved and have them read your message to thousands of people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977905
Mate, in all seriousness, please don't even think about streaming until you fix your holier-than-thou attitude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977464
You're talking about a business, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22977905
OK well no one will give you money for that on Twitch so....give up? Or try and waste your time and fail, either works really. No one wants to sit around and listen to a guy ask for money for 4 hours at a time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978002
In all seriousness, you have some kind of hangup you're projecting. Take your own advice and get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978140
You come here looking for answers, get mad at those answers then respond to criticism by spazzing out? I'm dead serious anon and I mean this in a friendly way, you pull this shit on stream and you'll stay 2view forever. Now post model or fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978140
He's right though, you sound like a cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978305
Mate you act defensive like you've had your whole life criticized because someone mentioned the anti-capitalist shtick they WEREN'T going forward with. Maybe take a break?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978140
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978305
Actually anon >>22976382 didn't ask a question so they weren't looking for answers. You wanted to give an answer when no question was asked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978402
Everyone is asking questions that need responses all of the time if you're schizophrenic.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey aspies, gonna be streaming pokemon tonight. If any of you would like to stop by or offer me some advice I'd appreciate it ^^;
twitch.tv/mirukumaa

[Anonymous No.]

Does the "work with what you have" attitude for a vtuber work? e.g. mediocre equipment/budget setup?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978402
Anon posted his concerns, I responded out of curiosity, once the conversation deepened a little here >>22976548 I provided a solution and a theory here >>22976855. From there I guess it spiraled out of control. This 'is' 4chan, more specifically /asp/, not your personal blog. Getting an unsolicited response is... well, why are you even here then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978623
But if you didn't like that they had a different viewpoint to you then you fucked yourself by engaging. You weren't prompted to engage or asked a question as you latter put it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978591
your voice is super comfy, but it seems at times that your audio balance is all off. The game is louder than you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978616
as long as you can own it and learn to work within your means, sure. i've seen a couple vtubers get mildly successful growth with subpar tech

[Anonymous No.]

>>22927279
She's cute so far I think, gotta add final accessories

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978940
And a body, unless you're going with a floating head.
Which could be an idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978940
Hope you're not a babiniku, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978705
Victim blaming on /asp/? Never change folks, never change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979151
I hope you are larping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978940
Making a vargouille character is really inventive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979191
Hey if you don't like my different viewpoint, guess you're fucking yourself by engaging, right? Isn't that what you said?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979289
All is fair as long as it doesn't break the rules. I'm just concerned that you the actual person behind the screen is off their meds.

[Anonymous No.]

Streaming is sitting on a street corner playing an instrument.
Tipping is throwing money into the case.

People are so fucked up they think "I PAID FOR THE TEXT" is the transaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979151
What are you a victim of exactly? I can't figure it out.

[Anonymous No.]

i wish i knew what design theme or elements fit my voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979428
voca now

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979367
Took some before which might explain that 10 minute gap. Feel a little embarrassed now but rereading some of these replies hurt a little. Gonna stop posting now.
>>22979407
Bullying or abuse or some shit idk

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979515
That would explain a lot but nobody was bullying you. You participated in an antagonistic back and forth knowingly. Don't turn around and try to say people made you do it, we don't know your mental illness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22952869
>>interact on social media,
yes, this is great, do this!
>>post or retweet things relevant to your character
it doesn't have to be relevant to the character. it helps if you stick with the kayfabe, but you absolutely don't. you just need to put everything through a slight lense.
so it's not
>car broke down today
instead
>spaceship broke down today

as a very basic example.

wrt engagement... this is going to sound cruel.
you have <50 followers. they’re mostly aspies. you’re not going to get much in the way of engagement. don’t expect to pop a banger tweet and hit 1000 likes - you don’t have anywhere near the reach to build that momentum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978591
well someone's got a potty mouth

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979927
Instant popularity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979615
No no please don't misunderstand, I meant that in a "idk what my reason was but I was mad" sorta way. Like if you get really angry at someone and think about it later like "damn, that was dumb, why was I so angry anyway".

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979991
are you done?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22980083
Yeah, sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979991
I wish there was a symbol for anons that need meds like how /int/ has flag symbols. It would help so much.

[Anonymous No.]

Dogwhistling is bad, m’kay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22978591
Very comfy/10. Relaxing enough to make breakfast to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22979924
nta but what do you think makes someone stand out in the sea of png tba on twitter starting from 0? im working on the best png i can to grab people's attention, but like you said working with low follower counts is rough. do i just do f4f and png threads then spam #vtuberuprising?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22980306
Context?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22980306
awOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>22980352
Not that anon but is it working and what is the distribution like for it working out?
Maybe if everyone is doing f4f it's just the sheep running off the cliff deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22980384
GOD DOGGO