/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startup

[Anonymous No.]

What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
Twitter Networking: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Social media branding: https://pastebin.com/jVERSLqG
Take with a grain of salt Parasocial Guide : https://pastebin.com/zmpCResg
Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Hololive Auditions have opened up to males
https://en.hololive.tv/audition

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.

Previous Thread: >>22529752

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.furaffinity.net/favorites/truekaiser/

doxed, you sick babi motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554316
Doesn't that only work if you're a faggot though (I mean of course babis are, but we're not all babis ITT)
>>22555157
Fuck that's awesome, sad the guy ghosted you.

[Anonymous No.]

selfing again since last thread died, playing ultrakill at twitch.tv/warshrimp

[Anonymous No.]

>>22565450
That's one active furfag lmao. I'm sorry I lied to you guys i'm actually not german i'm an american furry enjoyer.

There is actually content from my past, but i used a different name until like a year ago? It's mostly contained within my old youtube channel which has like random gameplay videos (ffxiv, pso2, wow etc). If you find that one, then well too bad i guess. I can't remember having done anything too morally apprehensive.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/DEYw2TZkYuE

I'm streaming some (paid) artwork right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>22565800
Have you considered calling your hero kensuke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22565800
Look for words that mean the same thing as kaiser in different languages?
Or just bite the bullet and ad _VT at the end of your twitch name.

[Anonymous No.]

Attention:
If (you) are an artist interested in being an artist for an /asp/ie vtuber please do the following
>Make a mockup character sheet in the style and quality that you are willing to deliver
>Write your twitter/blog/whatever way you want to be approached on on the top right
>Write your price underneath it, write (negotiable) if you are willing to cut it down
>Write any additional details in the post
>{IMPORTANT} Write ASPIEART in your post to make it easier to find in the archives
Please respect your own time on earth and charge at least 10$ per hour of work.

If (you) are a rigger
>Make a gif with 2 or 3 of your best rigs and what they can do
>Name your price, write (negotiable) if you are willing to cut it down
>write any additional details you want in the post
>{IMPORTANT} Write ASPIERIG in your post to make it easier to find in the archives
Please respect your own time and charge at least 10$ per hour of work

Remember to write sample all over your sheet in 15% white.

If you have a servive outside of rigging and drawing that you can offer aspies, please mention it as ASPIESERVICE along with your price and offer.
Exaples of ASPIESERVICE
>Drawing emotes
>Graphic design for stream
>Clipping
>Music production

[Anonymous No.]

>>22565800
http://www.fanfiction.. ws/u/2626939/Swissed-Toast

I'm not sure which is worse. Furry or naruto fanfics?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22566204
don't do this here. get verified and post it to vtuber.gg instead. don't become known as that 4chan artist who only makes models for 4chan. plus there's only 50 unique ips here on a good day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22566204
who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22566204
>{IMPORTANT} make sure and write RETARDIST on your post to make it easier to find in the archives

[Anonymous No.]

>>22566254
Oi, don't forget the lurkfags. There's probably another 20~50 more lurkers.

[Anonymous No.]

If you guys like teas and singing I really recommend ordering some Lavender flower and steeping some for a few minutes. Add honey to taste and you got a relaxing anti-anxiety throat soothing expectorant drink. Tastes good too, my dad says he's able to sing again and it's been months for him.

Good for streaming overall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22565450
>>22565800
I don't know about his weird centaur furries, but a Lola Bunny-like vtuber would probably be popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22566248
I made an account to check what 18+ shid he's into, seems to be ok not even that much. I'm not gonna read any of his fanfics though lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22566254
No reason not to do both.
Kinda nice having /here/ artists and chuubas working together.
This has been a thing for a few threads already, but if you have good reasons why this is a horrible idea or how to do it better, toss em.
Vtubing is a young and heavily otaku hobby. Nobody cares that you use 4 chan.

[Anonymous No.]

hey thanks to anyone that watched the bitbuddy stream that was actually a helltaker stream. suppose the fact that I'm never mentioned beyond existing means im either doing everything fine or i dont selfpost enough but i appreciate you all regardless

[Anonymous No.]

>>22566921
Growth and feedback is the point of this thread.
You are not breaking any rules, selfpost more.

[Anonymous No.]

I said I would selfpost in the next thread so here I am, playing Coromon.
https://www.twitch.tv/yukichireikyu

[Anonymous No.]

I found the most absurd-looking vtuber I’ve ever seen on twitter the other day and I’d like to share it with you guys, but I don’t want to be a full-on cyberbully so I’m not gonna link it or anything. I’ll just describe what I saw.
He didn’t have any skin. Just exposed musculature. From the waist up, he was human. From the waist down he was a horse, but not in the way you would expect a centaur to look. His torso was just attached to an entire horse in roughly the spot where a saddle would sit.
The human half of his body was, aside from the absence of skin, a normal-looking anime boy. He wore a headset and a blue hoodie. He had a chest pocket with a pocket watch in it and had his hands in the hoodie’s pockets.
The horse also had no skin and its head was a completely exposed skull with one large eye. The horse was wearing green coveralls with a few pouches on them. It had a mark on the butt of the coveralls of a D20 attached to a shackle. I think the same emblem was on the guy’s hoodie.
Weirdest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. Thanks for reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567125
Cute model.
I like tanuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567153
A nuckelavee?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567153
Please link image so I can follow this brilliant man and artist.
This sounds incredible.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have VODs they'd like someone to go through and clip? I could use the editing practice

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567546
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1452973929

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567304
ding ding ding, that's what it looks like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567601
Ogey, i have some things to do but i'm reaching ya on twitter when i'm done

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567546
Consider making clips out of mashi's hollow knight stream
https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1455717944

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567546
Sure, if you’re willing to deal with my bad mic technique or bad audio engineering
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN-OhUcO54XNwi_h9b_wOsckowmPH4QuX

[Anonymous No.]

>Way easier time getting affiliate
>Instantly opens you up to networking with other vtubers
>Higher % of active chatters than usual
>Has never gotten anybody involved in drama yet despite all the fear surrounding it
All the drama over "becoming a blacklisted 4chan vtuber" is absurd. Advertise yourself here and on /wvt/ already.

If someone can find someone who got in trouble for being a "4chan vtuber" please send that info over to me, because I've never seen it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22565414
where's mashi btw?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568150
[Spoiler]In your heart.[/Spoiler]

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568208
ctrl+s for easy spoiler tags

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567125
what accent is this

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know how long Google takes to remove outdated content from Google search results?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567988
I have my reasons to not shill myself on /wvt/.
Mainly because event the 2views there are more talented than me, and because I am close to one of the popular chuubas discussed there and don't want to bring any drama to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567988
Anyone who believes the blacklisted 4chan vtuber shit is stuck in 2009 and probably won't succeed anyway. There's plenty of people who are/were heavily associated with this place like Krimbo who have collabed with way bigger people despite being le ebin 4chan boogeyman

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568447
>event the 2views there are more talented than me
I wouldn't say this is fair but its true that /wvt/ is competitive. The chuubas that are already there are very good.

>I am close to one of the popular chuubas discussed there and don't want to bring any drama to her.
See point 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567988
What is all this talking about 4chan all of a sudden?
This is 4channel. A safe for work, taiwaneese basket weaving postcard exchange forum

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568692
Who is this 4chan? I heard they were a system administrator who knows their way around a password

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567988
>If someone can find someone who got in trouble for being a "4chan vtuber"
no one gets in trouble for being a 4chan vtuber because none of them ever break 20 views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567304
>>22567153
hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567784
>>22567921
Ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568799
Off the top of my head in random order,
>Krimbo
>PiCKY
>Arypie
>Bea
>Coqui
>Koopa
>The 50 others I missed

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568886
of those, only Krimbo openly selfposts.

picky, arypie, coqui stealthpost with image memes so the average viewer would never know. bea is jp and has a pedo buff so her audience doesn't care about 4chan. koopa stopped selfposting over a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567988
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/4976277/

I have a pending court case and 4 supervised release case managers thanks to this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568941
>PiCKY and Coqui only stealthposts
They occasionally pop up on the /trash/ thread to openly selfpost.

>Arypie only stealthposts
Embarassingly wrong please lurk more.

>>22569012
Thank god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568795
Do not under8stim8 d3 p0w3r of d3
>Unnamed
D3 unnamed has fought against d3 mormons and won!

[Anonymous No.]

I really just don't give a shit about this 4chan boogeyman theory. Even if it turns out to be true, it's just serving as a good filter for my audience. If I ever saw some redditor/twatter making shitty labelmemes with my likeness I'd probably neck myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569042
I really am thankful. If I was black I'd be dead long ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569091
>it's just serving as a good filter for my audience. If I ever saw some redditor/twatter making shitty labelmemes
if you plan on never making it ig

[Anonymous No.]

the fuck is a labelmeme

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569091
why do you care so much

[Anonymous No.]

I'd selfpost but I'm still working on general setup stuff before I do regular streaming. People seemed to like watching anime I've hosted to stress test my internet at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569091
>MY VIEWER DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME HUMOR OR INTERNET BROWSING HABITS I CANT BELIEVE IT MY DAY IS FUCKING RUINED

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567125
Oh I remember you. Didn't you post here like a month or two ago?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569272
I recommend Sword of The Stranger. Everyone I've watched it with so far loves it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMg3Jqoxksg

>>22569283
who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

Post your recent achievements and milestones.
Doesn't matter if you say who you are, recognize some recent milestone

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569227
nta but picrel

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568941
I don't even watch Ary but she has always and actively posted and thanked people directly for things. Letania posts almost daily and has been pulling at least 40 viewers. Just because something doesn't fit your bullshit rhetoric doesn't mean it's true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569381
people seriously care that much about someone making a meme they don't find funny? Such 2view mentality

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569421
it's 4chan tradition to irrationally hate things that don't matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569387
>Just because something doesn't fit your bullshit rhetoric doesn't mean it's true.
I am of the opinion that there are a few occasional schizos that drops by on /asp/ just to sabotage people with bad advice.
Can never be sure if its that or bad manager LARPing though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568228
damn, life hax

[Anonymous No.]

https://litter.catbox.moe/52emza.mp3
Do I have potential?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569498
Except there are plenty of above-20 CCV chuubas that openly selfpost and reference streams on /wvt/. Nothing bad has happened. To say it's just a bunch of 2views is completely wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569542
SOUL
Memes aside, sing something you enjoy, you sound dead inside

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569542
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569594
I am agreeing with you on >>22569498 dolt
I'm the one who posted >>22567988

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569371
Haven't seen this, looks neat.
Last time was Somali and it made me want to rewatch SukaSuka or the Macross F movies because satelight.
Definitely need to find time for this though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569498
The only bad advice ITT comes from tourists talking out their ass, and calls everyone retards when their logic gets picked apart.
/asp/ is best for getting feedback, so advicefags just derail everything into timeloop arguments most of the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569542
You're horribly off beat

[Anonymous No.]

>>22565414
Hey, OP, wait a few hours before you make the next thread this time.
Anons ran out of productive things to talk about and quality of discussion has dropped a little.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569928
/asp/ie feet...

[Anonymous No.]

How the heck I decide on who I interact on Twitter or in streams?
Do I just pop in to any chuuba’s tweet or stream chat and reply/chat in the same way I would do on main?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569594
This was before I was a vtuber but I would bring of 4chan in the videos I made a fair bit. I've had anons make threads about shitting on me and praising me plenty of times. Litterally nothing bad has happened and some of the videos have hundreds of thousands of views. 4chan isn't some obscure site anymore. It is highly toxic, but no more so then Twitter or some reddit. Plenty of main stream people have talked about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22566254
>>22566285
>>22566367
If (You) were here a few threads ago you will know why the post is needed and why it got approved by everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570042
>why it got approved by everyone.
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569990
Oh nyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570057
t. weren't there

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567988
Many people just too shy to post it, nothing to do with 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570135
2008 schizos parroting the same rrat doesn't help too

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569498
No there's definitely people who put down others to make themselves feel better. It's a human thing. Unfortunately /asp/ies are highly susceptible due to no self esteem and newfaggotry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570221
>/asp/ies are highly susceptible due to no self esteem and newfaggotry.
Very true. The last few threads were very peaceful and productive. Today we're back to crabbing so aspies go back to lurking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569381
this actually made me burst out laughing

[Anonymous No.]

So with a thread like this I can just let loose and release the rancid diarrhea I've been holding in my anus for a few days to absorb the water all over the thread now right?

desu I can't even be bothered. guess I better set up twitch notifications for actual stream hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569614
Original Eva is my favorite anime, I used to have a bag with a quote back in highschool. I just want to die already.

>>22569907
Yes, or maybe I didn't sync the karaoke audio properly. Have a tweaked version with reverb, is it better?
https://litter.catbox.moe/cuy7s4.mp3

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568799
Meat is the 4chan vtuber. She openly posts in /trash/ and in the front with self posts and vocaroos. She seems to be doing fine for herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570600
>is it better?
Kinda, but you need to put more emotion in while singing. You sound like you don't wanna wake up your roommate or something. If you have a karaoke place nearby, go there a lot and sing your heart out.
Also, pronunciation reps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570732
>trash
Absolutely disgusting. There's nothing but regect porn and pony porn in there. Why evere go there. My appetite is gone and my day is ruined

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570022
How do you normally socialize with people? If the answer is "you don't" then that's the first thing you need to understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570732
Doesn't matter how many chuuba examples you give, or how many they can't, the tourists will still believe posting /here/ means instant ngmi curse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570022
Chuubas are still normal people. It's the same as making friends online. A step by step guide would be incredibly autistic. Just don't be a creep

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570960
The active /wvt/ is there and it has none of those things.
Lurk more.

[Anonymous No.]

Have you streamed this week?
What did you stream?
Did it go well?

[Anonymous No.]

Quick tip for aspies. Commissioning art/overlay/emotes from popular artists and letting them post the finished product in their timeline is an easy way to get a lot of eyes on you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571364
yes
two games
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570960
Trash has some good threads among the absolute degeneracy and has on occasion cool anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571461
Good work!
Keep it up!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571364
>Have you streamed this week?
Yeah
>What did you stream?
I did an autistic drawing stream, I rarely spoke but somehow people stuck for the drawing.
>Did it go well?
I got few commission requests out of nowhere so I guess I did some progress, at least in that aspect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571443
Gonna add on top of this that developing a good relationship with artists is going to get you far.
An active mama/papa relationship with your artist/rigger will be beneficial and enjoyable for you and them

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571596
Comissions from a drawing stream.
Impressive!
Nice work, anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571364
>Have you streamed this week?
Yes
>What did you stream?
Some Mahjong
Kinda, i've done better, gonna try some Stardew later

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571940
Forgot to quote the third question but you get the gist

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571364
Yes.
Weird West.
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22565800
kaiser has a nice ring to it but people might think you're a kaiserboo or associate you with those circles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22570852
Thanks, I won't shit up the thread any further, it looks like I'm not ready to do a karaoke stream yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22565886
necro chan! nice to see you here! I watched you like last year, your streams are super comfy. unfortunately I don't have time right now. have a good stream!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572091
No one is gonna make that association besides a handful of people who would've never watched you to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571940
>>22572017
Mahjong is always good.
Laid back creative games are nice for chill streams and talking.
I would not know how to talk over mahjong
>>22572059
>>>weird west
The stickfigure game? What class are you? Shill your stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571443
Big investment for an /asp/ie, also very low conversion for artists not known for being parents or otherwise vtubing adjacent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571443
This has failed for so many people it's ridiculous. Only makes sense if you're doing heavy pre-debut game which most people here are either against, not interested in, or completely unable to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572369
What's the case against a heavy pre-debut game if you have the money for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572289
It's a game released recently.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1097350/Weird_West/

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571443
To pile on in this, its kinda sad to just commission a artist for advertising without caring about their art.
But if you're being pragmatic then that doesn't matter, so consider the two posts above.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572402
If you can't back it up on launch you'll just be known as a clout chasing weirdo and people wont give you the time of day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571364
i've streamed guilty gear and hearthstone this week so far. got one more stream tomorrow doing hearthstone ladder again. it went okay, nothing fantastic, but i'm starting to get clicks on my streams from people viewing hearthstone replays so that's cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572579
Do you think it's better to just start off hitting the ground running with streams and then 'redebut' later? Or should I not even bother with the redebut stuff and just stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572402
It's not just about the money, plenty of people have had money but can't entertain or grow an audience. They end up with 20 viewers which is nice but they also end up with an investment they will likely never make back with those 20 viewers.

Honestly I don't think I personally know how to "quantify" the odds of someone's success as far as people who have done heavy pre-debuts, but it tends to lend towards people who either have had previous content creation experience or are just conscious about being charismatic, entertaining, and have done the research.

One trend I've noticed is with a lot of them they've been watching streamers for a while and know the basic in-and-outs because they've watched people grow outside of the Vtuber bubble. A lot of Vtubers and Vtuber viewers in general never bothered with streamers until a year or two ago so they've got a massive handicap and lack the basic knowledge of what it takes to be a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572289
If it makes you feel better idk how to either, i'm terrible at zatsudan, main reason i stream mahjong is because it's the only game i'd call myself good at. Maybe i should get a part time job, besides the money (which i need if i want to take this more seriously) i'd get some more life experience and things to talk about

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572702
It depends on the person. For most, just start streaming as soon as reasonably possible and do a big debut event later if you see growth. Grow as you stream. very few people have the resources, skills, knowledge, mindset, and drive to do a full pre-debut campaign and just start off with a sprint from there. I can commission 20,000 dollar setup, but if the only thing I do until I debut is a few tweets here and there with no prior knowledge of streaming or content creation, then as soon as I debut it'll be painfully apparent I've got no clue what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571364
>Yes
>ACE COMBAT, Elden and modding
>yesn't

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder to ignore anyone talking about investments
The point here is to have fun.
Ironically, the /biz/ subhumans thibking in 3d chess on how to gayme da system are the type of fags that would never ever make it.
Want a debut?
Havea debut!
Want to pay for expensive art and models?
Go for it!
Fuck the bargain bin just have a good time!
People are attracted to creators who love what they are doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572872
There are some hardcore never left their room neets getting tons of views out there.
Don't stress out too much and say things when you want to about things you think are nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572702
Personally I don't agree with doing debuts in general so I'd say just hit the ground running and go with it form there. I come from the side of things that watched streamers before vtubers were a thing though. Just depends on the audience you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572187
Do it anyways, scuff karaokes can be fun and charming

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572702
Just stream if you feel like it. From what I see, people can redebut when they rework their designs, it's a way to hype a particular stream to get extra eyes on themselves so it's more like a hype tool than a mandatory activity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571443
>If you spend a bunch of money on useless crap you can get a lot of eyes on you
>Post gets blown up by other people

>>22573361
>Just do what you want and have fun haha all those people crapping on me are /biz/ NGMIs

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572369
I was referring more towards stream assets and things that would be good to have as a streamer in general. So overlays, profile banners, standby screens, about-section graphics, etc. I hate predebut stuff as much as you do

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care, I am rich, I will spend whatever I want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22573973
You can buy a bunch of those on a number of different sites for a lot cheaper and with zero wait time and back and forth like you'd need with a commission. The "popular artist" shit doesn't help if you don't have content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572614
>Recognition within niche
NICE!
>>22572952
Is there anything about it you can leqrn from? What feedback did you gst from other aspies

[Anonymous No.]

>>22573447
There are a few, yes, but a majority of the top streamers were either extremely social IRL in the past or extremely social online and a part of a number of different communities, not complete rejects with little to no interaction outside of an anonymous imageboard. You can learn to be social but let's not pretend there's a ton of complete rejects out there getting tons of views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22574572
I'm autism to the max NEET and i WILL make it! watch me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567921
I already have Rice and Mashi's VODs downloaded, is there a specific one you'd like to see clipped? Otherwise i'm going with the first one
>>22573447
Makes sense, thanks for the kind words anon, i guess i could get better at it with some time

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572475
>commission a artist for advertising
Maybe I worded the post weird, but I meant it like killing a few birds in one stone. You can get useful and personalized stream assets while also getting eyes on you. Plus, artists will usually post finished comms either way, so there's no harm.

>>22574285
>The "popular artist" shit doesn't help if you don't have content.
I wrote the post for people who can benefit from it, so vtubers who stream and make content, who would like to upgrade their stream while also network and market at the same time. That's what you guys are, right? Aspiring vtubers? Or am I confusing the definition of aspie? If so, my bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22574863
You're honestly in the wrong place, no one here actually makes any content that'd interest more than a very niche audience, they just kind of go live and hope other /asp/ies watch them then wow at their viewership going up after posting here.

That aside it feels like next to no one here actually has any money to spend to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22574863
>vtubers who stream and make content, who would like to upgrade their stream while also network and market at the same time.
not many people here fit that description, unfortunately. condolences for the piling

[Anonymous No.]

>>22574434
>me
>learning
haha, good joke my man

I feel like I can talk a bit better compared to when I first started.
I am however, still pretty bad at explaining things to others, just ask the dude that asked me about learning Japanese on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

I like to think that i'm pretty entertaining and cute but sometimes my autism gets the better of me and I say the strangest, unfunniest and dumbest things imaginable

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575200
/m/ale or /f/emale?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575264
female

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575382
Then it's kind of endearing lol, mind dropping a link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575382
autistic fem chuubas are always cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>22565414
Should I stream my boring ass favorite game to the same 15 regulars or should I strive for something that would *potentially* increase my CCV?
>Stream whatever is fun for you
>Focus on more popular games if you want to make it
Can't decide because I want to stay in between.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575588
You'll most likely not get any new permanent viewers from a game. That comes from people finding your content elsewhere. Game viewers almost always split once you're done with that category.

[Anonymous No.]

my artist said mid april for the model and I still havent gotten it. I can't take this anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569928
Talking about the thread, there are a bunch of things that could be replaced in the OP copypasta, really.

My one contribution:
>OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
Incredibly incomplete compared to https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166

>>22575588
>Can't decide because I want to stay in between.
Anon you should decide on what you want already. Later on you're gonna end up getting mad when you want to switch to getting popular and realize you wasted all that time half assing both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575754
Can you contact them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568941
if we're talking about others that break 20 views you also have
>CallieCalico
>Bodega
>Leaflit (was literally on the /wvt/ viewer podcast recently)
>Purity
>Tomakeys
>Nelson
>Meat
>Charlotte
i'm still also probably missing more but you get the point

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575588
>Can't decide because I want to stay in between.
You can decide, actually. Fav game on one stream, trendy stuff on another. Unless you only stream like once a month I don't see a problem. But do put in equal amounts of effort and enthusiasm for both types of streams.

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any /here/ /asp/ies that actually appeal to an audience that isn't 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575806
i could have sworn i had mau's opsec guide somewhere but i'll replace it with that one the next time i make the op

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575754
I hope you're not being autistic and spam messaging them. There's a reason artists never give a specific date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575930
most /here/chuubas don't? i don't even know what one would do to "appeal to the 4chan audience"

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571364
Yeah, I played some Elden Ring. One streamed sucked because my ethernet cable died during it, but the ones after were good. I'm on the cusp of affiliate, will hopefully get it next week if streams go well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575930
Tell me what you think "appealing to 4chan" means in terms of content because I bet you can't.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you deal with someone who has nearly stolen your character design? Like their character has 80~90% similarities with yours, and you're not a standard pink haired cat girl or dog girl or anything like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>22576086
>"appeal to the 4chan audience"
>>22576356
Only way this makes sense to me are like some youtubers who heavily reference 4chan in their videos like Ssethtzentach or old Internet Historian. No chubas fall in this boat afaik.
But I think some anons confuse appeal with shilling so they think that chuuba that posts /here/ is desperate for that elite 4chan core audience

[Anonymous No.]

On the topic of autism, would it be a good idea to be open about your diagnosis to your audience and possible vtuber peers/friends you make along the way? I'm actually autistic, along with a ton of other diagnosis and mental disorders. I want to be open about the struggles, things that have happened to me and all of that stuff, but at the same time I don't want to be classified as a spoonie or some lolcowfag term. I have thicker skin than I used to do when I first got diagnosed, but I'm not sure if it still would be too much to share that with my audience or not, even when they are probably going to notice by the way I act.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22576440
I'm gonna be open about it. i won't announce it or anything like that but I won't hide it either

[Anonymous No.]

>>22576383
picture?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22576440
It's good to be open, but don't let that be the main schtick.
"--oh yeah, and x has like autism and stuff" sounds better than "x is a vtuber with autism"

[Anonymous No.]

>>22576434
>chuuba that posts /here/ is desperate for that elite 4chan core audience
I think this is still true, though it obviously doesn't and can't reflect in their content. There's a lot of posts here that talk about how they'd never want X type of person in their audience, or they'd hate it if they had X as a viewer. They want an audience that's just a bunch of carbon copies of themselves because that's the only type of person they know how to entertain or they're worried someone will make an unfunny meme about them which would surely cause the streamer a massive mental breakdown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22576383
Gotta see both to make a judgement here

[Anonymous No.]

>>22566921
I decided to record a vocaroo of me saying water so you don't have to wait until i stream
https://voca.ro/14pEFnj2TDQn
>>22575029
Don't drag yourself down so much, i loved your explanation!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22576716
>warrer
>worrer
>wahterr
you're cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571364
Yes
Mario Kart 8 Delux, drawing/zatsu
I think it did?

[Anonymous No.]

I've recently come to dislike raids because they mess with my personal stats. I like knowing how well i can do on my own, but i also dont want to turn them off entirely..

[Anonymous No.]

>>22576805
T-thanks!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22574434
yeah i've been riding the high all day yesterday. it felt really good :]

[Anonymous No.]

>>22566204
i am currently learning to draw and rig
i have finished one model and i am working on a second practice model before going in to sell models
this is my first model

[Anonymous No.]

>>22571364
I did. I think it went pretty well. I'm still a complete noob and don't have any on-demand content or really any marketing presence right now, but I have a handful of regular viewers already and that feels awesome.
I streamed Devil May Cry and Breath of Fire. Tonight, I'm gonna have a couple drinks and play Super Mario Bros. 3. I don't have much left to play of that one, so once I beat it I'm probably gonna play Splatterhouse and Gradius II.
I'm gonna play Drowned God: Conspiracy of the Ages tomorrow night. I'm planning to use that playthrough to make some sort of video essay about the game that I hope to have out some time next month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577083
Cute, you may want to add some physics to the hair and breast, that stuff your model by a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577083
I like how only the boobs have physics. You got your priorities correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577192
thanks, yeah, i am working on getting physics and expresions on my second practice model, i might also update this first one then to make a comparison

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577379
market value

[Anonymous No.]

is getting popular through a niche game even good? this was my plan since there aren’t many girls who play, but a really popular streamer played it yesterday and now the community (even notable members) is fawning over her. it just feels like i lost my “in”. i’m not sure that i could compete

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575806
>17. Use a business paypal
>18. Don't send money, paypal will dox you
So the receiver sees your dox even if using a business account?

Also remember if a troll frivolously copyright claims your video, think twice before fighting it, if you fight it they immediately see all your dox. https://youtu.be/1-oHTQ3ylIA?t=64

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577795
that streamer may only play the game once, you can get just after and get those who liked the game and want to get more of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577795
Not with that attitude, you can't! Stick to your guns and hone whatever it is that you can bring to the table.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577928
Not sure, you could contact Mau about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22576679
My opinion probably doesn't matter on this that much, but i'm on nightshift and i'm bored so you get a textwall.

This goes back to the whole thing of what you are streaming for. I have gotten critisized for saying i want to stream for attention and people said that i appeared fake to them which i didn't understand. I believed that was the whole point of streaming to begin with. But i tried being as honest as i can. I love talking and i love having conversations. I love hearing people's opinions and interacting with them, no matter how unsavory they might be. I might not hang around on some of the more spicier boards (or any boards really), but that's just because i don't think a lot of people understand what's the value of being crass or taboo and it ends up being tiring to read.

I don't do well being put on the spot. I like to have at least a moment to prepare. If someone came into my chat, said something lewd or mean I would get flustered. But i also think that is a valuable learning experience. I believe it to my own weakness and i want to take it as an opportunity to learn. I want an interaction i remember, positive or negative. I don't have a lot of hobbies as most things bore me, but people are interesting. The fact that people come into my stream voluntarily is a concept i find absolutely insane. I watch my vods and i know this is exactly the type of stuff i'd click off in 2 seconds. I have no idea what i would find entertaining.

I don't care about the memes, i don't care what group a person belongs to or in what box they are shoved into. I don't care about having people on my stream that love me or hate me or even people that understand me. If you come up to me and you want to say something, ask me something or just interact, then i'm interested. I'm fully prepared that it might not work out, that i have to ban you because you said bad words in my chat, that you end up thinking i'm boring and leave or that i just end up not feeling comfortable talking to you. And that is fine, you don't have to get along with everyone.

I don't care about being a babi or a vtuber or playing a specific game i like or posting myself on 4chan. I don't care about money or numbers either. Ultimately it's an attempt to cure my lonliness by putting myself out there and just creating interactions with other people. There might be better ways to do this, but this is the only way i can manage right now.

This probably doesn't really matter to anyone but me and might not even make sense, but I made sure to make this post as long as possible so it's easy to skip. I'm also aware of how pseudo-intellectual and pretentious it sounds. I don't consider myself a smart person.

[Anonymous No.]

should I use my shitty cut and diy rig model to stream until I can afford a rig for my new model? or give my high quality art a shitty rig until I can afford to upgrade it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577795
depends on the game. i'm looking to do solely hearthstone content in the future with variety every so often. i can probably get away with getting popular through hearthstone, because i'm pretty fucking good at the game. i'll definitely want to make youtube content to start getting more eyes on me though, because there are a lot of popular hearthstone streamers i'm going to have to climb past in order to gain a core audience to watch me instead of them.

[Anonymous No.]

Guide on Paypal business account for opsec? Do you put fake names and address?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22578378
>Do you put fake names and address?
If you want to become legally liable for a crime, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22578463
Ogey. All this talk about Paypal dox is making me stupid and paranoid

[Anonymous No.]

>>22578378
No, better opsec is to work with people you can trust. That doesn't have to be personal trust; a good business reputation is enough because then they have something on the line and can't fuck you with impunity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22578205
use a shitty rig and then upgrade

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577957
you’re right.. it’s just that she was someone i idolized and wanted to emulate, so it’s hard. i wanted to be the ____ of (niche game), but then she actually played it lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>22578638
Well said, thanks. But just to be sure, people can't see real names and address on a business account right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577928
You send an invoice as a business, then remove details from your business info till you just have the name of it. preview to check if the details are gone, then send it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22578378
You have to pay taxes on donations that go through your business account so using fake info is a horrible idea.
>>22578730
If I'm not mistaken, donors will just see the name of your business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22578794
>>22578877
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22575806
>Incredibly incomplete compared to https://mauthedoog
this is the most useless "guide" ever. at least the asp opsec guide has things you can take action on. mau's "guide" is just common sense bullshit that he couldn't even hold himself to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579243
You're gonna have to be a bit more specific about your problems with it, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22578794
this only works from your end. if you commission art from an artist and their side has "Show Address on Invoice" they will see it regardless of what settings you have on your end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579275
>be a bit more specific
>/asp/'s current opsec guide
has steps you can implement and take action on. gives you advice on specific steps you can take to do opsec reps.
>mau's "guide"
isn't a guide, you can't take action on anything in it and is mostly just things to think about when you realize the guy himself couldn't stick to it.

mau's guide is as useful as yellowcat linking the wikipedia page for "doxxing". concepts and theories mean nothing when you don't know how to implement them. providing a list of steps you can take to improve your opsec is better than the vague concept of "think about it"

[Anonymous No.]

At the risk of sounding like a retard, why can't we all just agree to use Monero?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22568832
I love this drawing, it's so adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579359
Weird, paypal specifically advices what I say to hide your personal information.
https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Managing-Account/How-do-I-stop-buyers-seeing-my-personal-information-when-I-send/td-p/1185819
>>22579498
Because normalfags don't know how it works and won't go through the effort of using it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579498
>why can't we all just agree to use ONETHING
there's literally nothing in the world where every human being will be able to agree on one single thing
https://xkcd.com/927/

[Anonymous No.]

Is it generally frowned upon to start streaming with a good 2D model, or should I build up to it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579498
>scam crypto

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579556
It literally says "how do i stop buyers[...]", ergo, people sending you money, not people you're sending money to

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579498
not using dogocoins and monkee nfts
NGMI

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579556
please learn to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579593
the better quality you use from the beginning the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579491
I just went through the guide again and most of the bullet points are "Do X" and "Don't do Y" instead of what you describe.

Here, a example
>11. Set up your browser properly.
>If you use a browser while streaming, use private browsing. This will prevent any websites from automatically logging you in. Turn off bookmark toolbars and autofill when typing in search/url bars. Consider even using two browsers: one for regular browsing and one for browsing on stream.
Are we reading the same thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579753
>he had to go down the list to point 11 and cherrypick it
the "use separate browsers" advice is already on the /asp/ opsec guide.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it ok to link a card to my opsec business account or should I transfer money from my personal one instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579796
>Cherrypick
I didn't want to copypaste the entire guide. I said as such in my post.
Going to assume you're a schizo/braindead and not reply any further.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22579556
I just did a test donation to myself after doing what you suggested and all I could see on the receipt was my business name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22564076
Is she approachable? I'd like to be frens with her and have spoken to her before for a comm, but idk if i should make a move and potentially sour a good business relationship

[Anonymous No.]

>>22578702
Lol that is pretty funny. Like someone else suggested, since you're genuinely passionate about that game in particular I'd imagine you'll be streaming it more than she does.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/Aw1fXH-phOo Live desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>22572257
Oh! I'm glad to see you here too :D
I had a fun art stream and got a lot done

[Anonymous No.]

>>22580134
>pony
No thanks anon, I still wish you good luck in your stream, have a blast.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, did I do good, /asp/-senpai?

>>22567268
Thanks! The world needs more fluffy tails
>>22568268
Fuhgeddaboutit
>>22569330
I did! I had some net troubles for a while and went to work on some prerecorded stuff while sorting it out, now I'm back getting my reps in

[Anonymous No.]

>>22580125
true! thanks for this tiny chat, anon. your words helped more than you know. i hope you have a good rest of your day!!

[Anonymous No.]

…I just bought a 34” ultrawide 1440p monitor
Now I won’t have to drag the PC out to the living room anymore for console, I’ll just have to drag the console out :D

[Anonymous No.]

https://vocaroo.com/144hO06rUauB
Singing /asp/ies, do I have potential or should I just accept that I'm a SOVLful singer?
Is this level of singing gonna get me insta-filtered if I include it in my Holostars audition?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22582139
Congrats anon, that's very nice! I hope you have lots of fun playing vidya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22581269
Any time! You too, tuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22582252
>https://vocaroo.com/144hO06rUauB
lmao anon, it was fun listening to it. Any voice is fit for karaoke as long as you have fun singing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22582318
I will! …windowed though, I don’t know if Ryzen 7 5700G can play games at ultrawide 2K?
Also I wonder how I should stream ultrawide games? I’ve read at least either letterbox the game, zoom/crop, or just stream at 2.37:1/21:9.
I need a GPU desperately, but I’m going to try waiting a bit longer before drop mad cash on a 3060 or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22582252
singing isn't your strength

what else you got

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569990
this but only female (female).

[Anonymous No.]

>>22582940
sketch of mine, that's all I can offer

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569990

[Anonymous No.]

>>22582252
i think you have potential, you can do it with practice!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22577083
looking good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569990
feets

[Anonymous No.]

>>22582699
…wtf MSI???

[Anonymous No.]

>>22584173
Is this good or bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22584173
lol falling for the ultra wide meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>22584245
Everything is squished
You'd think that it would be letterboxed or something...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22584173
Oh i see, can you still get a refund or something? maybe change it for a normal screen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22584173
>Windows 11

[Anonymous No.]

>>22569990
I don't have a proper pic, but imagine bodysuit anon feet...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22584359
This might be an issue with integrated graphics, maybe... at least for the PC part.
>>22584500
I could... but then I would have to drag the monitor back on the bus.
>>22584762
Yes, and...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22584359
Yeah, you can't fit two normal screens into a regular ultrawide resolution. So that is what you get if you try to use it as "two" screens.

You either play windowed or you get two separate screens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22582252
sing normally without the "trying to sing deep"

[Anonymous No.]

>>22585686
>I could... but then I would have to drag the monitor back on the bus.
That sucks, but it's better than staying with a monitor you don't want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22580060
This is all you see when donating, I've tested this with a friend before as well. I've never once seen a chuuba's name, only viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22586759
I mean, I otherwise love it! (MSI Optix MAG342CQR) but the PIP/PBP isn't a dealbreaker, I bought it without even realizing that it had the option, but remembered reading about it after the fact.

[Anonymous No.]

I like the aspies here, they're so friendly. Aspies cute.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate the aspies here, they're so mean. Aspies ugly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22587427
>>22588221
The duality of /asp/

[Anonymous No.]

What do you think bodysuit anon’s feet actually look like?
(Zola pic)

[Anonymous No.]

What do you think bodysuit anon’s feet actually look like?
(Old pic)

[Anonymous No.]

>apply to holo and niji two weeks ago
>haven't heard back
I thought I could maybe get an interview based on my talents alone, but I might just be in over my head. Pretty sure I was rejected because I never started any sort of social media presence or anything and don't have a proven track record or following, most of what I do is offline. I believe I'd be an entertaining streamer, but the thing is I don't think there's anything extraordinary enough about me to get people interested in me in the first place. I'm talking about really being like a top level player at something to set me apart. My main focus is singing, it's what I know I'm excellent at, but that's not really something I can use to draw in viewers. Streaming is so goddamn oversaturated right now, I don't want to give up on getting into a corpo but it just feels like I was way too late in the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>22589143
just start streaming you idiot
you can cry all you want but if you haven't even tried then what's the fuckin point
there are still streamers out there who have been inclining from 0
if your talents are as good as you say they are you should be able to build up your own viewerbase
don't discount small corpos as well, kaneko lumi was originally someone with 10 ccv and her getting into CL jumped her into the 3 digit range

[Anonymous No.]

>>22589328
>don't discount small corpos as well
I'd happily apply if there were any openings, it doesn't seem like there are any right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>22589478
use this time to build up a streaming portfolio then. you say you haven't built any sort of presence so you should focus on that first

[Anonymous No.]

>>22589328
>don't discount small corpos as well
between WACTOR doxxing one of their own vtubers, Urara/Slugma leaving Tsunderia, the whole drama with Lumi getting her blacklisted in multiple locations, and generally every manager in a small corpo seeming more incompetent than possible, discounting small corpos seems like exactly what you should do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22589143
welcome tourist, every one of us goes through this at some point where we go in /asp/ with high hopes of corpo dreams then you find out every single niji or holo corpo has been doing this shit for years and has large numbers one way or another, unless they had nepotism buff

its not neccesarily too late, but you have to be willing to start making shit from scratch and earnestly commit a lot of effort in content creation. irys did covers for 10 fucking years, kiara was stranded in japan and had to borderline whore herself out for 10 years, thats the type of dedication it takes

[Anonymous No.]

>>22589717
>its not neccesarily too late
objectively it is too late if "corpo" to that anon means either Hololive or Nijisanji. Nijisanji's final auditions just closed and that was the last boat anyone had even a sliver of a chance at passing. if you're starting now, there is literally nothing you can do to catch up to the hundreds of highly skilled and talented content creators who are applying to those two corps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22589143
you can always go and stay indie to make a name for yourself, anon

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.twitch.tv/jaydeadthegoat

first time streaming and testing out the parameters and shit, painting for maybe an hour.

[Anonymous No.]

To selfpost or not selfpost, that is the question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22580713
Don't be jelly that I'm the leader of the lollipop guild on gumball lane.
>>22584173
Okay I'm done streaming so I can give this peice of advice. Dump the ultrawide desu. I've had a 2k ultrawide and it's horrible. Because no games really support it well, and the ones that do make it hard to stream. So for example you stream in 16:9 but play in 21:9. That's a huge issue. If you're trying to split it in half you're going to be off center and run into some pretty weird issues. But of course that's my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22589694
I don't know why people make these things seem like the end of the world.

Yes, they're not great but the alternative is to struggle and stagnate as an indie while bumping into setbacks and going through the struggle of finding out what works, learning the hard way, spending lots of your own money, and overall grinding significantly harder. I'm not interested in the corpo thing because I don't think I'd be a great fit to begin with, but if I was more interested in going the traditional route, I don't think "Uhhhh the company isn't super professional" would stop me from going in to get a free model, assets, support, etc.

>>22590449
This is how a lot of people want to do it but underestimate how hard it is to "just start" and all the hurdles you have to go through to grow. On paper is all seems super easy, "just do this, that, network, stream, reps, etc" but content creation with the intention to grow, as in REALLY grow into a large, lasting channel even if it's just for a few years requires a lot of knowledge most new people won't have for ages. Even small corpos can help you circumvent a lot of that if you actually have the other marketable skills but just lack the knowledge of how to get people to look at you. I can't really imagine the downsides that these companies have had really outweighs all that support, even if the support itself is lacking

[Anonymous No.]

>>22591171
selfpost but don't make it a habit and keep 4chan viewers at an arm's length away. once you break 20 CCV leave and don't come back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22591685
>More muh 4chan boogeyman

[Anonymous No.]

>>22591795
better to treat 4chan like a boogeyman and leaving this place than ending up Cadence desperately begging 40 year schizos in the trashcan for advice because she's made 4chan half of her personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22591861
I mean the option to not be a complete nutjob is there, doubt that has anything to do with Cadence becoming a chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22591861
Another good for nothing drama post that nobody can understand.
I don't even know what the point is with Cadence, from what I can tell it has no substance whatesover and just sounds spooky to whoever is reading it. Half of 4chan is her personality? What? Can you be more specific about what you mean?

Cadence doesn't get viewers because she's a bad streamer and her star dew gameplay is boring. But even then without 4chan she'd probably be getting even less.
Meanwhile there are multiple Partners (That's 75 CCV bare minimum, along with other requirements to make sure you're a quality streamer) who stay around and keep posting on /wvt/ because they're not autists who burn bridges for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22592408
>>22592545
the fact that you two are getting so defensive about this is already a warning sign. for chuubas the best thing that happens is you're ignored, the worst thing that happens is that you end up like Sloth going menhera and attention begging in the trashcan. either way, there's no benefit to be gained from here.

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>>22592639
>so defensive
Nonargument 101.
You're the schizo bringing up random names for drama.

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>>22591416
second anon here, you're right. corpo can cut out a lot that you have to work with, it just seems like the other anon is out of reach for corpos, and should focus on their content creation and work hard like you said. i really do think everyone can make it if they honestly try the hardest they can, but obviously that's why it's not for everyone. not everyone wants to try and put in all the effort.

[Anonymous No.]

what /asp/ie discords do a mostly good job of filtering crabs?

[Anonymous No.]

hey /asp/ im going to go live dont do anything too cool while im gone okay

[Anonymous No.]

>>22594107
Stop joining private discords.
Every time some ugly leak comes out its always because for some reason people thought that their private discord was safe for some reason.
There's a reason the current /asp/cord is led by two NGMIs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22594250
l'll go live faster and be more successful HA

[Anonymous No.]

uki got into niji and never fucking talks? it can't be that difficult to get in..

[Anonymous No.]

>>22594367
o-oh okay well dont forget me when you're huge maybe we can collab on minecraft one day...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22594464
mysta was a boring male with no notable talents. The bar WAS that low back then, not as much now probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22594532
>back then
Uki is part of the most recent wave and debut 2 months ago how the fuck do you know where the bar is if no one's joined since him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22595402
>debut 2 months ago
it's been confirmed by all of them that Ethyria, Luxiem and Noctyx all came from the same audition pool back in Jun of 2021. unless you're going to tell me Nijisanji has been silently and secretly opening up new auditions between then and when Uki debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

Can I get some thoughts on my butterfly themed (male) vtuber concept? According to my friends, the design looks too gay and effeminate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22596174
And regarding the face, should I fix the nose? They think it looks too faint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22594464
>>22594532
They're both products of nepotism.

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>>22596174
It does look gay and effeminate. You literally picked a butterfly, and insect people associate with feminine traits. You gave it a midriff, shorts, and stocking as well. What exactly did you expect?

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>>22596315
I do love the Nepotism meme. I don't doubt a few of the Nijis are, mainly the earliest ones, but there's almost never any proof posted she associated with a majority of the Nijis prior, just "its nepotism bro trust me" as if the company has no input on who joins.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm really curious what the ratio is between people who are just fucking around and people who are trying to "make it." I think the former is far more healthy than the latter. It's good to do this as a hobby, but you shouldn't pin everything on it, else you'll lose your fucking marbles. The people who are doing this solely for their own enjoyment will take much, much longer to reach burnout than the people who are actually trying to make a career out of this. And you know what else? When people are doing this purely for fun, that shines through in their streams. You can tell they're enjoying it and that they're not just repping for the sake of repping, and this is infectious- it keeps the viewers coming back. Since some retards like to treat this entire thing like some kind of crypto ponzi scheme, let's talk probabilities. Say there are 10000 people trying to "make it" as a vtuber, and that only 500 of these people actually are afforded the opportunity to make it (likely more than enough to cover the major corpos). With these super generous numbers, you're afforded a 5% chance of making it, and those odds really aren't great. Stop being a fucking retard, you probably won't make it. When you stream, stream knowing "hey, I'm not going to make it, but I'm going to have fun anyways." The best words to ever come out of this thread were "stay grounded, stay hopeful." However, I'd argue that you should place far more emphasis on being grounded.

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>>22596448
>as if the company has no input on who joins.
the secret to getting through Nijisanji auditions was to fill in the written parts of your application with 4+ paragraphs. if you wrote less than that, you were auto filtered. you'd only this if you had already gotten in. you're talking about nepotism as if pomu and elira were standing behind the company personally hand selecting who got in. it's not that nefarious.

pomu and elira just needed to tell their friends
>anykara is looking for people who can show enthusiasm so just write a lot of paragraphs in the written text portion so you don't get skipped over
and they would have had a huge leg up over every other applicant that just put 2 or less parapgrahs in there.

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>>22596174
What does your voice sound like?
I think it has potential.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22567358
first result for "nuckelavee vtuber"

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>>22596174
It doesn't look effeminate to me. I get mesoamerican vibes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22596174
If you're going for a themed outfit, try to lean more into the "Supervillain" side of things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22596732
>he's an 8 channer
dropped hard

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>>22596606
Almost no one here is trying to make it, I firmly believe they wouldn't need any advice from this thread if they were. No one who "made it" up to this point has needed these threads so I genuinely don't believe anyone with serious intent to make it and grow are here. 100% of the (good) advice from these threads is regurgitated from other places. It's all discoverable in every single Youtube video on Twitch growth, Youtube content creation, etc. This threads have next to no real value as far as information goes outside of technical help, opinion on designs, and similar things that are more subjective

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>>22596700
>he secret to getting through Nijisanji auditions
Stopped reading here, you don't know that any more than anyone else unless you're literally staff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22596606
>but you shouldn't pin everything on it
there are literally zero aspies who do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>22596897
>the truth doesn't fit my narrative so i'm going to ignore you
cope all you want. your audition video got zero views for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22596606
These two mindsets are not mutually exclusive.

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>>22596962
>the truth
If it's the truth then you've got some way to prove this, right? Should be simple.

[Anonymous No.]

not the most musically inclined, but i did a cover of melancholic just recently, i had it mixed + mastered but i'm not the most confident in it regardless. would my anon best friends in /asp/ like to hear it

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>>22596835
You'd have to be some brand of insane to go for a design like that to be honest.

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>>22597031 (me)
also male

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>>22597154
Honestly I heard about this design from the previous anon and honestly I'm so disappointed it's in an anime style. I feel like there's definitely some crazy horror artist that could do the concept justice and I would totally watch a chuuba if they did

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>>22597031
yeah, just post it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22597562
There is, but he still makes a bunch of designs by people who aren't watched either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22596174
>not becoming the mighty monarch
sorry anon you're not gonna make it unless you go down that path

[Anonymous No.]

I want to drive a truck full of fertilizer into my ISP's headquarters.

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>>22597031 (me)
>>22598066
i'm not a pro or anything like that, but here: https://youtu.be/oOgWrYuqRBI
very nervous ; ;
stuff i've noticed are:
>i should probably get a better mic
>learn how to project my voice better?
still have a long way to go, but i feel like making steps to what i wanna do is the best way to go about it ; ;
(also male)

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>>22599386
doesnt sound bad but sounds a bit nasally and some parts of your voice sounds digitally pitched?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22599901
the harmonies were artificial! i do think my mixer tuned it a little bit though ;

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>>22596174
With Riddle Rosehearts as the base, and the aforementioned midriff window and shorts, it is very effeminate.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey butterfly anon. Think outside the box. You know how butterflies have stylized squiggly feelers? Make bangs out of that shape or something.

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>>22596174
bro you have shorts, stockings, an exposed midriff and are a butterfly. that's a little fruity. not a bad design to be clear, but certainly a lil fruity

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>>22596174
Nor bad but certainly very twink-y.

Personal opinion tho, I absolutely hate the small crown trope. If you want to be royalty, be dignified. Get some proper drip.

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>>22596174
are you the anon that i said looked exactly like a pre-existing vtuber...

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>>22599386
its always nice to see covers pop up around here, i also dropped one earlier in the week
you have a cute voice! learning to project your voice is important but i think your voice fit for the song
and yeah i could hear the tuning but that tuning effect can be heard in a lot of mixed covers it kind of just happens unless you're really good at hitting those notes. how many takes did you send to your mixer? also, what kind of mic are you recording with currently?

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>>22602932
Yes, I am that very same anon from like 2 weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel very bittersweet right now. I'm going to give up on my corpo dreams, it took a lot to accept, but now I've accepted that I really never stood a chance and in the terms of making it into a big corpo, I was ngmi. but with this, I've decided that I'm going to give it everything I've got to grow myself as an indie. I'm going to make it and I'm going to do it on my own terms. Thank you guys for talking sense into me every time I've menhera posted, I really do see you guys fondly (*´-`)

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>>22603627
Keep applying to auditions anyway while you do all that!

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>>22603627
Sty grounded, stay hopeful. All the best, anon!

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>>22603627
I think you made the right choice.
Not because you will never be good enough for corpo, but because indie allows for much more interesting avenues and for you to really show yourself, not a group image.
Please be less hard on yourself, ganbare.

[Anonymous No.]

I have very good numbers but niji didn't look at my audition either. Granted i waited until last day, so chances are they had made their choice or close to it beforehand.

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>>22603627
Go create corpo for yourself.
Then you will be chuuba, CEO, and owner at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22604179
We got clover corp already

[Anonymous No.]

>>22604209
Still not one take the aspiesanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22594367
Are you still there friend? I finished my stream so let me watch yours.

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>>22604138
>very good numbers
give a hint on that. People are still trying to figure the numberfilter out.

>waited until last day
Ike Eveland also did that, but you might be right too.

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>>22604138
You guys are misubderstanding something fundamental.
Consider this, all corpo auditions have a rough idea in mind.
They put up a project and managers and go based on that idea.
Stop kicking yourself over not getting in, you can't predict what they are looking for.

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First time checking out these threads and it's kinda funny seeing the channels on here. Surprised a good majority of people here are like under 100 followers or not even affiliated.
Though my question is what's the best way of harassing people I got my Twitter suspended and I'm blacklisted from participating in vtuber collabs with twitter people for making fun of men who use female avatars cause the voice is hella off putting and fat black SJW female vtubers aswell, and especially harassing faggot furries.
How do I now go on with being blacklisted when I no longer have any ammo without getting my twitch/YouTube suspended

[Anonymous No.]

>>22604280
28k on twitter
600 ccv
19k on twitch

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>>22603071
it was only one take, he didn't ask for retakes... i probably should've smoothened it out properly before sending it over.
i'm recording with the hyperx solocast!
thanks for the comment, anon!

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>>22604138
honestly i haven't seen anyone here or anywhere else say they got a view on their niji auditons. either they got a super high numberfilter or the way they view it somehow doesn't give one.

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>>22604465
That's so fucking good, what? Definitely higher than most Niji's PL.

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>>22604555
I figured i was just late to the party. No biggie, ill try applying earlier next time.

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>>22604512
I have a question, got my video viewed by holostars possibly, is this a good sign I thought they had to sit through dozens of shit.

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>>22604471
that's fair, it does depend on the mixer but I always figure it's better to give them more to work with just in case
good luck with your singing though! keep on practicing

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>>22604697
>is this a good sign I thought they had to sit through dozens of shit.
Yes and yes.
If they viewed it in its full duration multiple times then expect a call.

[Anonymous No.]

How easy is it to sell a fully rigged model? What about for what you initially paid for it? My kid is very interested in getting into vtubing, and I don't mind splurging for her model if it would be relatively easy to get the money back if she gets bored or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>22604787
>How easy is it to sell a fully rigged model?
90% of that depends on how attractive it looks. most chuubas don't even know what to pay attention to when checking a model's rigging and they only look at the art style.

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>>22604787
W parent
I think it's more difficult than you might expect though, since the model will have had an identity of it's own (your daughter's) beforehand, people might not want to buy it since VTubing is a hobby where people like to have their own unique characters. With this being said, if the art is nice, it'll sell regardless. The max you could expect back out of all of the investments you put in though is likely 70% (this includes the rigged model, any potential overlays, artwork, etc.)

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>>22604847
You also need the artist's permission to resell.

[Anonymous No.]

Any tips for streaming long periods besides not streaming so late in the night? Also tips on doing audio checks? I tried recording my stream before going live and watching that but the audio was extremely different in the case of the game being different when it came to audio.

besides that oooooooooooh im climbing slowly

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>>22605577
>in the case of the game being different when it came to audio.
It just occurred to me I was probably listening to the game already open... Good night /asp/

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>>22604847
One of my friends will be doing it and she's incredible, should be fine then
>>22605044
>since the model will have had an identity of it's own (your daughter's) beforehand, people might not want to buy it since VTubing is a hobby where people like to have their own unique characters.
Why is there a market for premade models to begin with then? Not asking in a smart ass way, asking seriously. Is that strictly for unused models?
>70% (this includes the rigged model, any potential overlays, artwork, etc.)
I'm only going to front the money for the model, something she couldn't realistically get on her own any time soon. Other stuff like overlays she can save up and commission on her own hopefully

Sorry if it was a weird question, as a parent you just never know what to invest in or not for your kids and you would ideally not want to just flush money down the shitter

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>>22605659
The pre-made ones are usually $30-$50, and are customizable as well. Assuming that you'll be splurging, I'm going to assume $1000 for the model and $1000 for the rig, which is a lot heavier price to pay for a model that 1) isn't going to be the buyer's own and 2) has a previous presence already, without the same customization options. And it's not weird at all, you're an awesome parent, keep it up.

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>>22604765
We will have an aspie holo!
The bad news is that he has a probability of falling out of yagoos dictatorship for anh number of reasons
The good news is that falling out of holo makes you even more famous.

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>>22604787
>>22604847
Don't plan on reselling your model.
Get her a model at a reasonable price for christmas or for getting good grades (some of them go as low as 50$) and treat it like a present.

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>>22604787
Why are you buying her a model? Just tell her to use some free shit.

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>>22605659
>Why is there a market for premade models
As someone who went with this route, some premade models just click with people, especially if it has a safe and popular design. For me, I had a full document with designs I would like, but then I stumbled upon an artist selling a l2d ready-to-rig model, and it's basically everything I wanted. Mind you, mine is an exclusive one so I have the full rights. It's also cheaper than designing one from scratch too.

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>>22604787
She's probably not serious about it as she would be streaming already. The reality is she's gonna get bored or discouraged over seeing no viewers for 6 months. Pretty sure some girl who gets everything handed is not interesting. See how creative she gets with absolutely no money

[Anonymous No.]

>>22606668
BASADO.
Teens pick up and drop hobbies all the time and that's normal. They're still exploring their interests. Don't splurge unless you're unsure it's long term

[Anonymous No.]

>>22605659
if she likes it, get her one of the shibafs premades in nizima/booth. it's safe, pretty good quality; the only caveat is that it's something that's popular and commonly used, but if she wants to dip her toes into it, it's not too much of a loss considering it's only $15.

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>>22607113
We should pin shibaf in the op so new aspies can have a good place to start.
Lots of model talks in the last few threads so there should be a generally agreed option for new/poor aspies trying to dip their toes in.