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>>22548890
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

two seconds, god damn it rannianon how do you do it?

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https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1515264715848818694
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1515264715848818694
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1515264715848818694

So, even if they are bringing it back, it has to be on their own streaming site, right?
There's no way they try this on YT again

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For those who missed, first half of April ranking of median of peak CCV (3 streams or more)

>>22503167 :: top 50
>>22503957 :: 1k+
>>22505843 :: whole list
>>22506597 :: “minor” companies
>>22507037 :: Niji only
>>22507546 :: Holostars vs. NijiJP-NijiEN

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>>22549012
I don't think the world is ready for Pekora swimsuit

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aqua 70k

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>>22548873
>just like holostar became part of hololive
They are not merged anon, they are subgroup under "hololive Production" not under "hololive"
This is more like "Nijisanji SEEDS" merged into the main nijisanji branch and becoming just "nijisanji"

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Akutan 70k

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BESTO MEIDO

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>>22549111
>>22549174
Today's gold I presume?

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>>22549099
Imagine Gura Swimsuit

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Man i want apex to be over already.
It becomes a views blackhoke for tge others

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>>22549012
Could you imagine the number for the swimsuit reveal streams for the girls who don't have them

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>>22549119
what the fuck are you talking about?

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>>22549119
I think it's still fair to call them ID vtubers and include them on tallies no matter what branch they're in though

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>>22549209
yes, 32K currently above silver, don't see how anything passes it, since hal and kuzuha are on the same numbers they've had the last few days

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>>22549209
kek, I can only imagine what would take for an otherwise unannounced stream to steal a 70k gold.
Maybe some chuuba killing herself on stream

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>>22549260
>Using wikipedia as source

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holy shit, Gorilla is out for blood today

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>>22549209
Yeah nothing can beat Aqua Apex now
No wonder so many Vtuber play Apex, the viewerpool for Apex in JP is GIGANTIC and it's basically free numbers

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>>22549259
Which Holo doesn't have swimsuit yet that CAN bring number?
Also, consider swimsuit is not part of the mainline 3D (The default/Idol skins), can we have some EN/ID girl to have their swimsuit 3D?

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>>22549209
I still have not recovered from Hazuha's slip yesterday. He was given a gold plate and threw it.

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>>22549012
>There's no way they try this on YT again
Maybe Twitch

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>>22549293
>using "dude, trust me" as a source

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>>22549340
Myth 3D swimsuits would destroy all 3D debut records

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The difference between 1st and 6th team.

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>>22549388
Gorilla too strong Hal give him 2 literal shackle

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>>22549388
Rating vs Hunting

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>>22549314
Yet the vast majority of players in the tournament have fewer viewers than their median right now

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oh no, she took all the fujos away from him

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>>22549209
seeing these numbers cover should debut one or two good fps players for their next gen

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King…

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>>22549012
Might be why theyre pushing twitch so much. Swimsuits should be fine there if shit like Veibaes new outfit is fine

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>>22549485
Big viewer pool but they only latched to the best players lol

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>>22549388
which one get more point?

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>>22549388
How's the placement point again? What round is this? If this is 4/5th round, StartEnd should have 13 pts, no?

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>>22549388
so that's why apexfags prefer Aquas pov, its far more interesting to watch

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>>22549209
Unless we get some guerrilla Vox dildo unboxing stream

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>>22549314
Pekora must be seething right now that she's stuck with a crap game like Elden Ring and didn't sign up for the APEX tourney instead.

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>>22549260
The same thing you are, it seems. Holostars are under "Hololive Productions"; which ended up absorbing Holostars and INNK to become pretty much the only vtuber agency under Cover.

Inside Hololive productions there are two groups right now

1) Hololive
>With over 50,000,000 fans across all their channels, VTuber group hololive is the all-female talent group that belongs to the VTuber agency hololive production.
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/about

2) Holostars
>HOLOSTARS is an all-male VTuber group under hololive production that began in June 2019.
>They stream Let’s Plays, produce cover song videos, as well as create original music on YouTube.
https://holostars.hololivepro.com/en/about

Anycolor just went the opposite direction and absorbed their ID and KR branch into their main branch. Now they only have two branches
>Nijisanji
>Nijisanji EN

With NijiID and NijiKR having been rolled into Nijisanji proper

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>>22549267
Re:act's qu qualia who's Thai was included in Jp tally, nationality don't matter. It's which branch in which company they are in that matters. Let's just say HoloEn gen 3 have an Indonesian chuuba, you include her in EN tally not the ID one

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>>22549471
excuse the gorilla, he has one disabled baby in each hand

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>>22549280
Mysta onegai..

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>>22547289
did anyone care enough to read all that shit? is there a tl;dr?

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>>22549471
>Hunting
They didn't hunt for shit, they were literally camping the entire game, watch the stream first

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>>22549504
I thought you fags said earlier this month (when Korbo was still in debut buff) that HoloEN would never lose to NijiID? Well?

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>>22549314
>GIGANTIC
though you have to be as entertaining as aqua to pull those tourist

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>>22549452
And he still a big chance to win
Gorilla can make newbie become a good player like Hoshikawa

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>>22549471
Gorilla has to carry weight heavier than Sui, please understand.

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>>22549012
The only reason it's dead is because of Susan, they still use it a ton in their marketing.

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>>22549485
Aqua slurped all the viewers

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>>22549647
>there's no number mention on Holostars
top kek

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>>22549708
This is...well, there's a truth to it yes, but Aqua also crafted a very compelling NARRATIVE to go alongside it, even if not entirely by choice (since she failed her Solomas last year).

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>>22549785
They're not dumb, are they?

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>>22549383
Especially Mamaloni doing the designs.

Onn another note, what if everyone got swimsuit for their live2d and another for their 3D? Myth could end up with three pairs
1. swimsuit for their L2D,
2. official 3D swimsuits
3. swimsuits for heir unofficial 3D

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>>22549699
Guess this is the day a pig grow wings

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>>22549652
There's no such thing as a JP tally here, it's the overall tally which includes everyone. And similarly there's no such thing as Niji JP, it's just Nijisanji.

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Remember when HoloEN used to win EN gold? Yeah, me neither

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>>22549805
and that's what it makes it entertaining

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>>22549507
hololive gamers(proper)

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>>22549647
so nijiID is pretty much like hololiveID then......

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>>22549504
Et tu, Mika? Nijis will never let a King reign in their company.

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>>22549805
The strength of hololive is in the stories they build.
They're very easy to build and spread among both fans and non-fans.
And of course, when the box hears about one of theirs riding a story, they will show up in force.
t. someone who never watched Aqua before this but has watched all her tourney streams live.

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>>22549383
imagine being this delusional

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>>22549507
>seeing these numbers cover should debut one or two good fps players for their next gen
>>22549896
>hololive gamers(proper)
Only if they're dumb. Wasn't this the exact strategy Nijisanji went with Edengumi, Lauren and Leos?

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>>22549682
he already addressed it anyway
https://twitter.com/uki_violeta/status/1515315836160024587

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>>22549938
t. seething last samurai

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>>22549841
It just semantic.
My point still remains they should not be included in the ID one

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rpr raking in the towa buff in numbers too

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>>22549915
>so nijiID is pretty much like hololiveID then......
Nope, that was what NijiID was before. Now they're more like what Sana and Bae (and Haachama) are for HoloEN, they share the geographic region they live but other than that, they're part of the branch they got assigned

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>>22549953
2 to 3 people won't do much harm. plus they will always have the box to fall back on should it go south

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>>22550030
I genuinely see ZERO benefit for Hololive to do anything different from what they're already doing. What benefit would it bring to have a "gamers" gen if they did away with the whole idea of Gamers being a thing when the border between "sing and dance chuuba" and "gaming chuuba" vanished mid 2020?

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>>22550028
so it's pretty much like holostar then........

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>>22550030
Relying on ine game is dumb. You never know if something will replace it.

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>>22550046
What's with Pakael? He's some sort of "one shot one kill" sniper or something?

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>>22550182
He just fucks dudes.

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>>22549938
Gura 2nd outfit had destroy all outfit and 3d reveal records

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>>22550171
Holostars are an entirely different group under the same agency. NijiID are not a different group anymore, they got rolled into the main group.

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>Winner of Apex Musume gets 100k yen per person
Literally spare change

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Gorilla winning the tournament is the same as Hololive winning the tournament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LvA9DQqsHQ

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>>22550171
No, more like
Nijisanji Seeds, nijisanji gamers and Hololive gamers

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>>22550180
thats why you focus on getting a good fps player instead of a good apex player

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>>22549997
I think it’s really endearing that despite him being connected with every big apex star, he’s here watching his oshi play and gives no fucks what people think.

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>>22550286
GORI-KUN CONFIRMED FOR HONORARY HOLO!

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>>22550286
UUUOOOHHHH!!! GORILLA!!!

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>>22550273
Is the shitposting that matters in the end, no matter who wins

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>>22550122
>>22550180
gaming idols. they can sing and dance plus they can compete in games, not necessarily apex only. think botan but there are 2 of them

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>>22550333
Is the same shit.

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>>22550122
I mean at least the EN branch could use some good gamers to fill a niche since all of the current ones suck at games.

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>>22550273
Well Aqua and Towa already earned that much.

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>>22550030
>2 to 3 people won't do much harm. plus they will always have the box to fall back on should it go south
Would be a change of pace to make Gen 3 a gaming-focused gen. Then they'd have girls that can carry the other girls asses in gaming collabs.

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>>22549984
>>22550213
>1st free 3D debut with arguably the second biggest EN
>peaked at 80k
fucking kek

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>>22550286
fucking gorilla is such a chad

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>>22550430
Huh. Crying on stream generates lots of SC.

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>>22550273
They get a bunch of view, clips and some of money. It's better than playing for just bragging right if you win like Marika tournament.

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>>22550328 (still me)
I'm not sure about the hololive gamers since I'm not a holofag.
So let me revise it.
"Nijisanji SEEDs" and "nijisanji gamers".
Don't be goblok and just accept it already NijiID is no longer existing.

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>>22550437

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>Apex race
Who gives a shit? If they were going to do this, at least stick all the racers in the same voice chat so I can call Aqua and Suisei fags cucks.

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>>22550437
>3D debut
>already appeared in HoloFes, used 3D in a MV, appeared in Suisei's 3D Live, and used Home 3D in a stream before it
Heck Mori using 3D so much is killing the hype for other EN 3Ds.

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suisei my fuckin sides what are you doin

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>>22550437
CCVID never left the ENs, last samurai, keep coping.

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>>22550626
I wonder if those Digest shorts posted on the Hololive English channel also killed the hype for 3D

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>>22550539
nijiID still exist
just like fubuki still under hololive gamers

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It looks like niji is finally taking an ID gold!

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this is the only chance nijijp has a shot at gold tonight kek

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>>22550286
>Vietsub
There's Nguyen amongs Holo fans?

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Aqua's viewers are boosting Towa and Suisei CCV hard

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>>22550531
>A lot of SC
Noel get 3 times that every time she stream

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>>22549931
Reminds me of omniscient readers viewpoint.

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>>22550744
Sigh

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>>22550380
So you want this theoretical holo Gen to do things current members already do?

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>Okayu peaking at 12k for her first Elden Ring stream
Jesus, no wonder so many of them streamed earlier to avoid the APEX scrims. And it's going to be even worse number rape tomorrow.

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>>22550819
Kek

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>>22550286
>>22550793
https://youtu.be/zsBD66Sa5Yg
why not post the one on Sora's channel? hell, even Nobuhime was here.
fun fact: in a couple of months, Polka will exist longer than Nobuhime.

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>>22550414
its not

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>>22550889
What the hell is that spike

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>>22550959
Apex race pov

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Are people really still arguing about NijiID ? Just let them in the tally for God sake, ID tally is the super special Olympics and it's not like Mika is becoming a 16k vtuber, she will be back to 1k by tomorrow, 2k if she is lucky

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>>22550725
>>22550626
this amount of cope is just sad ENsharts

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>>22550889
>>22550933
I L L E G A L

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>>22550889
>>22550933
I... ILLEGAL VIEW SHARING

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>>22550959
Aqua's viewers went to watch Suisei's and Towa's pov.

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>>22550933
Kek the boost got Towa over the cutoff points for daily tally.

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>>22550886
currently, only Towa and festival consistently compete in these events. nothing wrong with wanting 2 more that can participate in these settings

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>>22550984
So this is a totally normal ccv to likes ratio, huh

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>>22550980
No one is arguing, anon, it's just shitpost
No one here give a shit about the special olympic

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just asking to see if someone here follows the clown's numbers and i don't want to bother their split, is it normal for her to buffer a lot? i'm watching cause mayodog is there but the stream is literally having like a 5 sec buffer every other minute

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>>22551078
I entered the video without watching, dropped a like and left. Seems normal to me

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>>22551078
ASMR is perfect to tab out to, even more so than Karaoke.

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>>22550980
Mika will remain at 10k+ viewers.
Holo can kiss the mud on the ground.

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>>22551078
It's ASMR...

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>>22551019
A Holo that compete in RTS or fighting game would be cool

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>>22551121
Happening for a couple of days now

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>>22551078
>stream started with 1.6k likes already
yes, this is very normal, fuck off you fucking reject

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>>22551144
>>22551182
So do you have any other examples of ASMR streams with this like ratio? Preferably from JP. Hell, I'd even take Nijisanji or Indies

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>>22551121
Seems to be a problem with YT. Even some flesh streamers I watch also had this problem.

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>>22550889
>>22550933
ILLEGAL

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>>22549848
Winning daily gold is all that matters, and Hololive eats niji's lunch there.

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>>22551231
>ASMR streams
It's not even a real ASMR, just your usual owl shitpost.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVmK9HJmZJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVmK9HJmZJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVmK9HJmZJg
Get ready bois!

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>>22549848
kys

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>>22551144
>>22551182
Fucking retards. Wanna guess who the green line is?

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>>22549848
>Nijiniggers
>ENgold
Why am I not surprised?

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>>22551338
???

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this gorilla is something else even if he doesn't get the best numbers

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>>22551338
Wrong board?

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>>22551198
>>22551235
i see, damn, it's super annoying, thanks for the answers anons

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>>22551338
Anon?

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>>22551144
>>22551182
>>22551352
Also, might as well just put Noel’s asmr from yesterday here too. So go ahead and try acting like smooth brained fucks and claim people alt tab.

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>>22551441
>>22551470
>>22551474
Come on i thought we like it last time?

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>>22551338
wrong thread indog

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>>22551338
wait thats not brown Anya

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https://twitter.com/lasuka_ppi3/status/1515324232875790337

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>>22551338
You retard

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>>22551352
What's your point?
We know ID+EN viewers are special kinds of fucked, tarred and feathered by Youtube. Unless Cover themselves wants to publicly call out Youtube on this shit nothing will ever change. Not only because, while it may have some minor effect on numbers (tourists looking for the LARGEST STREAMER), the CCV fuckery doesn't affect their bottom lines with Ad revenue/Merch/Sponsorships, since they still get paid according to the real numbers, and they have the real numbers to show sponsors. It is, essentially, howling at the moon while the gods dine on the stars. Inconsequential except on this indian spice-grinding plaza.

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Those kill points lmao.

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>>22551338
/a/non ...

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>>22551500
>Noel
>an actual dedicated ASMR artist
I don't even know why you're comparing her with Mumei's shitpost.

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>>22551532
1st - Highest damage (and the round)
2nd - Total damage across all rounds
3rd - Ranking by average damage

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>>22551338
>Muse Asia
Stop posting things in the wrong thread and board you low IQ SEA monkey, never post here again

[Anonymous No.]

So Miko is collabing with Laplus, is this YMD's first 1 on 1 collab outside her gen?

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>>22551583
That's what's going to be the great equalizer for Aqua's team. They might not necessarily get to above 5th place, but if they murder half the lobby on the way there in the last few rounds they can clinch a win.

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>>22551661
Towa...
It's also a drinking collab

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>>22551560
Except smug last samurais try to lord it over everyone using those numbers pretending that their shitters are more popular.

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I need koboo

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>>22551661
Not even close

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>>22551661
Shion......

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>>22551661
She had a bunch early on, like that one kusoge where you're a child trying to kill your grandma with Mike's past life, some shion stuff, etc

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>>22551661
??????????????????????????????????????????Did you already forget about Shion and Towa?

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>>22551699
>smug last samurais try to lord it over everyone
Well, they're bigger than everybody else so...

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>>22550980
I'm the ID tally making anon, and just a heads up I'll include NijiID into my tally until Vrabi stop considering them NijiID. And at the end of this month I will no longer make the ID tally but instead switching to make charts for ID chuubas. I hope others could stop arguing now because it's just fucking pointless to care about who will win this Paralympic. I'm not even do the Gold Silver Bronze ranking shit but rather to observe the growth of them. And I hate myself for making you guys argue about this now.

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>>22551560
>We -know- EN+ID are special kinds of fucked
>Proceeds to blast EN for their numbers and call everything cope when it's blatant as day
>Numbers and shitposts leak out to the rest of the board
>Schizoposting and shitposting continue to be relentless
>Timeloop begins

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>>22551661
Towa, Shion..

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>>22551687
Ratting for the first three rounds and after that unleashing the mad dog seems like a good idea.

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>>22551661
Didn't Choco measure every HoloX member's body?

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What, I thought we have a massive tournament going on, why are we timelooping

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>>22551661
she collabed with rushia (rest in piss), towa, shion like 4 times, choco, rbc, and a bunch more

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>>22551338
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD

seriously though, this is just SEA viewers only, and Indonesia also has their own premiere of it, and they both reached around 12k CCV. if it doesn't have a region-lock, i can see this premiere get around 50k CCV.

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>>22551628
Stop it, those mumeifag has different standard than you

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zeta no longer had the debut buff

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Aqua 17 kills, Towa 7 kills, Suisei 5 kills.

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>>22551762
Either seething 2 views or actual shit flinger trying to falseflag

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Youtube keeps shitting the bed again today for all the streams I try to watch, fix your fucking site already Susan

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>>22551687
Yeah, they don't even need a champion if they can get to top 5 with tons of kills. They still need to work on their ratting skills for the first few rounds

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>>22551792
So will this be her floor?

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kek
>YOU ALL NOW REALIZE IT *COULD* HAVE SLIPPED
Aqua is running really hot because that peak at the end for the emperor was high as fuck

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>>22551792
Zeta is getting CCVID anon. Debut buff is wearing off sure but she’s blatantly getting fucked. And it’s not by me so unfortunate.

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>>22551792
indogs are too poor to get a Switch.

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>>22551893
not even close, try asking in 3 months, then see if she inclines from that 3 months after that

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>>22551749
Alas, it is the way of /#/ and /vt/. No amount of logic and level-headedness can stop someone from crafting bait, and there are far too many newfags here that they'll bite/get baited by samefagging.

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>>22551780
Shut the fuck up indog go back to your jungle

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https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1514878796931149824?s=20&t=yQ5TVW088DIQnJdvmvX56A

This is an interesting stream for numberfags tomorrow if you are interested in Japan's tax regulation and stuff.

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>>22551583
how many of those points were earned by Aqua lol

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>>22551904
anon, aqua's peak is 70k.....

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>>22551904
>18k away
Try better next time?

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King...

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>>22551904
Retard

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>>22551950
It's just hilarious. The thread complains about shitposting and baitposting all the time, yet they're the ones who craft it and look away when they get blamed. Like fuck dude we have 15 thousand pictures of CCVID/CCV fuckery and they continuously skirt around it.

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>>22551962

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552060
Damn, Hal's peak is insane. How did he get that high?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552060
The true power-ranking for viewer draw this tourney.
A lot of Hololive watchers watching the tourney, more than usual because of the trio. Probably the most it'll ever get from those who normally watch just Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like not enough praise is given to Mika for literally carrying NijiID name on her shoulders right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>Not even Ange can break 10K even if she had not streamed for days.

Why is Nijisanji JP such an embarassment? I wonder what the japs think at 5ch about their failures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22550980
All these shitposting aside, riku is giving up the ID market. Maha5 (from the inside) and HoloID (from the outside) are contributing to the expansion while NijiID is just.... There

[Anonymous No.]

>>22551993
>>22552035
>>22552066
COULD, damnit, COULD have slipped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22549960
I was bored and read through the entire spiel, so I guess I'll summarize it here -

Uki's mods are using mod accounts as if it's their regular accounts and doing shit like a normal fan does, but with mod powers (and the spanner highlight) -
> spamming thirsty comments (BARK BARK etc.) in chat
> using the chatroom to have conversations with other mods/users
> directing Uki's and the chat's attention to themselves and diverting the attention from the stream.
> concernfagging Uki (way more frequently than is warranted).
> Deleting "backseating" comments en-masse (which also apparently included some users answering questions asked by Uki himself kek).

Other users are obviously following the tone set by mods, making the overall chat thirst level way too high.

Uki himself is apparently encouraging this by replying to the mods' pre-chat comments, excessively focusing on them during ASMR streams, naming in-game stuff after them etc. making his "normal" fans very uncomfortable.
A lot of viewers have apparently been angry about this for a long time, but were "too scared" to address this publicly (until now).

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552060
Demoted to bronze boy...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552134
are you trying to get her anti'ed or something anon? we can all see the title and the thumbnail

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552134
She's actually burying that branch and everybody that was left behind her wrecking job.
She (correctly) moved on from that cursed brand as if it never existed and left all her former branch mates behind

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552138
nah, no one expected aqua to be below 60k, so it couldn't have slipped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552060
>>22552135
Another failure of Nijisanji JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552138
You COULD have used your brain more

[Anonymous No.]

I vote to create a split to talk about real numbers where CCVID can be compensated for instead of being treated as imaginary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552071
Nobody is denying there's culling going on we're just sick of ENfags blaming everything on muh CCVID when we know JP is culled too and we have no solid evidencce of what percentage it is for everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552138
You call 18K viewers gap a chance for slippage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552137
Why do we keep hearing about NijiEN guys having troubles with mods every week?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552198
That's because, as I said, Aqua is running really hot.

Back in the days people would be equally amazed with Aqua getting 55k for an APEX tournament scrim

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552138
Kek maybe if the difference was 2k or less. But fucking 18k? In terms of horse race, that's like a full lap behind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552134
>Mika
Do you even read the last thread?
She's a traitor. It's just Mika and Nijien, not nijiid and nijien.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552214
Impossible. Only the streamers know what the true ccv is so people will just make up more imaginary numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552190
She is actually smart and doing what Hana should have done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22551510
one time accidents are fine mate, but if we do too much shit offtopic it becomes annoying, and invites other offtopic shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552252
Maybe, if you're talking about early 2020.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552214
>I vote to create a split to talk about real numbers where CCVID can be compensated
Anon, that would be a solitary split, taking with the voices in your head

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552190
Is that why a lot of NijiID members are shading her on Twitter? Or at least that Siska guy from what I've seen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22551661
Rushia...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552230
We -know- JP is culled by about 10% and EN/ID a lot more than that going from the poll votes, likes and post-stream vods. Stop being a disingenuous fucker, you're part of the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552247
fujo mindset

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552137
yeaaa this is one reason you have to be careful with fan mods. Having mods on a rotating basis of core viewers is good enough if you're going for that, otherwise it should stay at a professional level of mods being silent while on mod accounts, else you get drama like this and eventual powertrips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552325
Sure thing, buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552325
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552275
She is currently the most popular ID vtuber right now, so what she is doing is right.
That is without 3D buffs, if she gets a 3D model, I think she will explode in popularity even more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552214
If it could be reasonably compensated for, that would be nice.
The worst bit about it is that due to it affecting VIEWERS, the %loss across branches and hell, even talents within the branch wouldn't be consistent.
We saw this when Kiara got an influx of Korean (unflagged) viewers to bolster her numbers, or when Fubuki attracted a fuckton of tourists with her pokemon gacha so that her numbers looked fine but we now know that no, they were not. Or the fact that EN wasn't hit as hard initially due to it spreading heavily from the JP FPS scene into Hololive->Everywhere else.
Point being, I'd love to be able to reasonably compensate, but YT makes it impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552251
no management support, they have to find and mod people all on their own.
obviously shitters might get in - and should be removed when they reveal themselves - but when the livers themselves start encouraging rule-breaking, that's not a good look.

[Anonymous No.]

>Crab mentality
No matter what Mika do, she's gonna get screwed

[Anonymous No.]

kek, Astel is getting some sort of meme hate for his drill skills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6wvvu_vWQw

Out of everyone in this tournament he's the one that, if he can control his menhera outbursts, has the better chance to come out with a permanent incline

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552325
>10%
korekore confirmed it's 40%
where did you got that info? from your ass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552301
Link it anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552267
Anons in this thread already dissected how Youtube's culling algorithm works, we have the real numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552409
do a cover song with kotone and rene and he'll get out of his perma 3view state

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552325
>We -know- JP is culled by about 10%
Absolutely delusional, go fuck off and make your split already where you can jerk off over Gura AKSHUALLY gets 100k watching every stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552383
Everyone keeps saying "If she gets a 3D model, she'll explode in popularity". But nobody explains how that could happen. Moona and Risu exploded in popularity because of their singing, meanwhile Iofi barely inclined despite appearing in the same Fes

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552101
God view during the running race i would tihnk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552383
>most popular ID vtuber right now
Kek maybe if she starts pullinggood numbers in solo streams. Right now she's still at Anya/Iofi's level.

[Anonymous No.]

Somebody brought up NijiEN clippers in reference to HoloEN clippers and I imagine they aren't on the same level.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCQ9lz9S-4YyEUyyT1BuplLg

That is an IRyS exclusive clipper that routinly gets 100k views. IRyS herself is hardly a top tier numbers wise

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552426
Check Siska twitter anon, it's not that hard. There was something hinted about some people in NijiID having preferential treatment

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552454
>Gura
rent free

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552415
Korekore is not Hololive, anon.
If anything, JPs -underperform- on VODs despite ridiculously high CCV. If they're getting culled at all, it isn't much, I'll tell you that. Unless you believe Pekora is getting culled like EN is despite having relatively weak vods of late yet averaging well over 20k people a stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552407
It just feels like desperation for views and numbers coming from nijiEN/ID while HoloEN lays back on their golden chair. They aren't gonna become like NijiJP where their grasp on the market slipped onto HoloJP, they're just cruising even if NijiEN gets better peak numbers on one day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552431
They're still guesses and estimations. Better than nothing, but still using a lot of assumptions

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552409
The man is an absolute menace with the drill, and with people LOVING to hide in the vehicles on the map, makes ridiculously good use of that accursed skill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552301
Link proof or GTFO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552541
WHEN I SAY "ELDENSCHIZO" YOU SAY "SORRY"
>ELDENSCHIZO!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552567
FUCK OFF
KYS

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552383
>She is currently the most popular ID vtuber right now
lol, no

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552520
>If they're getting culled at all,
archive reps or shut the fuck up. i am sick and tired of this retarded timeloop

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552501
On Bilibili, Luxiem alone has hundreds of millions of views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552541
oh hey rape's streaming

[Anonymous No.]

I hope you guys are doing your nihongo reps
>coco
>cochi
>migi
>hidari
>ura
>mae

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552567
Stop trying to save face Elden schizo. We know what you really said. Give it up.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Aqua going to get a record for most solo golds in a month? What *is* that record anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552541
How do we save Ui lads? She used to be a guaranteed 10k streamer every time
>inb4 rape

[Anonymous No.]

Damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552567
>DEATH TO THE FALSE PROPHET
WHERE IS MY 40k VOX ELDEN RING STREAM FAGGOT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552415
korekore =/= holoJP, he doesn't share his viewerbase with them. Everything about graph patterns, polls, likes and views points to holoJP not having a 40% cull.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552511
Kek if you don't wanna spend the effort then I'm just gonna assume you're talking out of your ass, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552636
did they shill it on stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22551338
ANYA GOLD???

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552679
A bit yea, they were talking about the song.
Also, with STARTEND in the title and Aqua's POV being THE ONE to watch.....

[Anonymous No.]

Any new narratives to why only HoloEN and HoloID are being culled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552609
>Magical BIlibili numbers
OHOHOHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552607
What fucking archive reps do you need, you smooth brained fuck? Korekore had a 70k stream where his "real" viewers were over 110k or something. We've all seen it.

That's not fucking Hololive. And that's certainly not HoloJP. It's an entirely different fanbase. So what "reps" are you talking about now anon? No, really, what the fuck are you on about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552609

1st) Provide proof, nijiniggers aren't trustworthy.
2nd) If true, luxiem should go to bilibili, its irrelevant to outside china though, and luxiem is outside

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552636
Can it beat Reflect to 1M?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552607
>bilibili
Nice chink

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552710
they are not the only ones being culled, they are just the most obvious examples

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552501
That actually looks like some crazy high viewership. Its so funny to me that IRyS seems popular in everything she does except for her songs, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552679
susy did
twice
also went full autist on vocaloid cevio

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552520
>n-not hololive!!
you're clearly so fucking retarded
afterall THE AUDIENCES ARE JAPANESE so there should be no difference at all idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552609
This is one of those chang commenters we see posted here from other places isnt it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552710
Because Cover spends all of their money on bots I think. There is no way a company like that can get big that fast without using tricks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552710
Muh likes as always even we've been over the fact that EOPs like more than JOPs a million times

[Anonymous No.]

is this what we're doing today
guess i'm going to bed early
see you tomorrow anons, i'm gonna miss you

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552710
We don’t know what even spurned it on, but we have pretty blatant evidence that EN viewers are getting fucked by the system in some way. This was Koyori’s English learning stream too. It’s the SAME exact behavior as the other ENs, and guess what? She goes back to her normal streams with her JP audience and her graphs become completelt normal again

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552741
It already lost

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552794
Retard, NijiEN girls, NijiID and HoloEN both have -non-Japanese- audiences yet only HoloEN and HoloID are culled, viewerbases are not the same across the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552383
if it's another NijiEN collab on her channel yeah she's going to pull 10K+ from collab but 1k shitter from her solo stream, try again next time anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552820
SEAchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552710
We have proof that Niji is paying react channels tonreact to their stuff. I would put it past them to pay youtube to cull the viewership of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552383
Having big number =/= popular
If having big number = popular, I can say Anya is the most popular ID vtuber after her totsu

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552679
>Suisei involved
Make a guess anon

[Anonymous No.]

migo you dumb baby...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552820
hope you get a good sleep anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552838
(me)
This is her radio stream the same exact day. You can be the judge over how those graphs look

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552787
Her songs are kinda lame and her singing is good but it just sounds like good singing. She's a great streamer. Maybe talks too much sometimes in collabs like Suisei does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552727
This reps, retard. And yes, the 2020 cull isn't fixed yet to THIS VERY DAY.
And before you say anything else, no, CCVID is a different thing entirely. Now fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552794
>no difference at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552925
We're not talking about the 2020 cull retard, we're talking about CCVID which hit EN and ID hard and wasn't cured unlike it was for JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552888
Fucking cope since NijiEN is beating HoloEN in every metrics. They have sponsorships, a cafe and billboards all over Taiwan.
What does HoloEN have nowadays? Viewership is slipping, no sponsorship and even no cafe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552874
retard I was pinpointing about HoloJP
thinking korekore and HoloJP has different viewer base when they're all both japanese anyways is really the most fucking retarded I've ever read

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553001
>and even no cafe >:(
i don't know why this is so funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552957
Because what Korekore was talking about was mpre in line with the 2020 culls. CCVID has very different symptoms, that's why you should do your archive reps before you talk out of your ass again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552925
jesus gura lost 20k ccv thats double anyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553048
We have proof that holoID and nijiID have different viewerships because one is culled and one isn't, that same pattern holds true for holoJP and korekore so their viewerbase is not the same retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552914
Do you have this kind of stat but for Ludwig or any YT IRL streamers? If they have the same ridges like that then the CCV system might be fucked for EN side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553001
Imagine being this delusional
Fine, have some (You) o fisher of men

[Anonymous No.]

Is Anya the most popular ID Vtuber? Who can compete with these numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22549675
Don't be mean!

[Anonymous No.]

Can you seriously fuck off with this timeloop already ENsharts, it's JP primetime and the big boys are streaming, invent bullshit to cope about your failures during burger hours at least so I don't have to read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553131
Moona did. On a solo stream, at that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553108
So what is NijiID's audience these days aside from the leech? Are they still Indonesians because I feel like HoloID also has a majority of Indonesian viewers as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553147
HoloEN is reclining pls understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553001
>Taiwan
Where's american ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553147
it's actually sad how hard they'll grasp at straws to make their shitty side branch look decent
immeasurable cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>22551908
ID / EN audiences have always been culled by roughly (estimated by pools / VOD views) around 20%-50% since forever anon. It's nothing new

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553147
you are just as bad as the people timelooping

[Anonymous No.]

Miko + Lap 23k

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553216
HoloEN is fucking slipping despite HoloFes. NijiEN doesn't need that and they are inclining with more sponsorships coming in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553147
Just to spite you, I will perpetuate the timeloop.
Every time you complain in this way, I will start the timeloop. EVERY TIME I SEE YOU, I will perpetuate the timeloop. At this point seeing you seethe brings me more joy and pleasure than the numbers themselves, you miserable cretin, and so long as you continue to whine and bitch, wah wah wah, it'll continue, because there are a bunch of people here who, while they too are sick of timeloops, hate your guts more and will gladly join in to fuck with you so long as you bitch about it like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553258
seems like 25k is guaranteed

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553001
I talked about Mika and ID vtuber scene though

[Anonymous No.]

The truth hits you that these threads, and the board in general, won't be good until all the Nijiniggers are banned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552925
Funny how the "cull" coincides with Nijisanji opening their EN auditions.
Could it be possible that Holos lost viewers because people were interested in seeing what the #1 Vtuber company in the world could offer in terms of talents?

Funny how you retards make up literal conspiracy theories when the truth is plain as day - people got bored of Holos and watched Nijis instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553229
Who gives a fuck about American, when you can make money in Asia instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>OOOH YES, NIJIEN IS INCLINING
>LOOK AT ALL THESE SPONSORSHIP
>HAHAHAHAHA HOLOLIVE WILL FALL

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552612
RARE

[Anonymous No.]

>>22549534
You will not get another fake gold trophy KING

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553258
pretty weak considering miko herself can get 20k more often than not, this should b at least a 30k collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553131
soon

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it everytime non-jp nijinogs break 5 digits with big streams the thread deteriorates at light speed with false information and shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553298
It's the fucking same. NijiID is inclining through the sheer force of Mika alone. She is still the only one holding onto NijiID while others moved on already.
If anything, she is admirable for being able to do this with so many obstacles stacked against her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553310
>until all the Numberfags are banned.
here you go anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553269
>>22553216
>>22553147
You are so pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553366
Ru...

[Anonymous No.]

illegal rpr coaching

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553317
Lol it didn't hit only Hololive, or Vtubers, for that matter. 2020 cull fucking hit EVERYONE on YT who does livestream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22551240
>>22551000
>>22550991
>>22550819
LITERAL ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY ILLEGAL FUNNEL
AHHH I AM GOING INSANE

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553369
Last samurais feeling insecure, what else? They've always been the worst posters in the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553397
t.mysta

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553369
It's easy bait material and Holofags are so easy to eat the bait

[Anonymous No.]

>people falling for the cheapest bait
Sometimes this is more amusing that the streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553318
You mean china ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553369
What did you expect from Nijiniggers? They will falseflag and bait until the thread went to shit, and when they do win, they will fling shits everywhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553426
Yes but 10~% of JP is pretty different from 50+% on EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553358
Anon, Aqua(and startend) is still holding a very big chunk of the box hostage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553317
Anykara is getting aggressive and I like it. People need to remember that Riku was the one to bring vtuber to mainstream attention after Kizuna Ai lost her position.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552874
NijiEN Females are being culled as well, what the heck are you talking about? >We literally had that Millie's leak few days ago showing that she was culled by around 30+% too

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553258
holox debuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553426
>didn't hit only Hololive
>Nijis getting the same numbers or even inclining, mogging Holo numbers
This is the /#/ thread faggot. Stop spouting bullshit lies that cab easily be disproven. God I wish Holofags were banned from this board and we could finally have a decent conversation for once.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553282
You sound so mad, are you really that upset about your oshi's shit numbers that you have to make up magic formulas and blatanly lie about JP being unculled to defend her honour when she isn't even streaming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553509
95% of those numbers won't go anywhere after that trio is done, don't kid yourself
the holobo doesn't have that many apexfags in it, of it had then apex would've been the biggest buff game in history

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553505
Did you somehow miss Azki, Mio, and Sora at the very top of that list?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553534
Fucking newfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553397
>sheer force of Mika alone
Poor Ike, Mysta, Alban, and Sonny...
Oh yeah, I forgot Nina too

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553369
ENschizos, nijinnigers, chinks and Seaniggers what do you expect?
They always seething and screaming no matter what they won or lose the day
So many baitposts and when gura start streaming is even worse when they start falsefagging about HoloJP VS HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553397
>sheer force of Mika alone
You mean the sheer force of leeching off the males? The bitches watching her stream now will not continue watching her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553481
Sure, China. It has a very stable industry that is in love with Anime culture. Inclining in the country is the safest bet if you want to bring in a lot of money.
The only thing you need to do is to respect the culture. If you can't, you are deserved to fail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553572
Did you somehow miss Lamy, Aqua and Okayu at the very bottom of the list with barely any cull? Having such a wide range means it's just monthly variance in averages you retard, nothing as consistent as what EN suffered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553421
What happened to rpr?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553534
Okay, sure. Bring proof of Nijisanji's numbers before and after 31 November 2020 and we'll compare it with Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553406
Where do you think you are? Mods need to implement a IDs and a tribalfagging rule

[Anonymous No.]

Talking about numbers, I'm making a graph showing which hours have the highest amount of SEAniggers so that we can avoid them and have a normal thread not having to read posts made by subhumans

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553406
Nah, numberfags are fine. The thread was wholesome as fuck when we were cheering Gura on to 40k during her karaoke. Its only when Nijiniggers get involved that everything turns to shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553282
god i fucking hate zoomers so much its unreal. can't you fags go play fort night or some shit instead of pretending to be retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553648
Baffling post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22552636
Nijibros...how come StartEnd gets a theme song for tourney and we don't...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553505
where does this 10% come from?
>vod views
of course, JP viewers live in the same time zone so JP vod views/ CCV ratio will be different from that of EN

[Anonymous No.]

Miko and Lap 27k

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553707
Not as baffling as your lack of IQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553566
I mean, right now I'm watching Aqua (and startend) and not watching other Hololive streams. I can't be the only one, and if we're not moving over it's because we've been watching fucking 4+ hours of streams and asking more than a fraction to move over is a bit much, no?
Normally streams go for 2-3 hours, and then you'd catch another stream or two at most and then get on with your day. A 4-5 hour stream? Probably going to get something to eat or at least getting other things that need to be done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553625
1 social credit for you zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>some of these comments
I used to think it was zhang larp but im not so sure anymore after seeing the fujo comment sections using terminology from here or straight up mentioning 4chan in some...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553752
Have you seen /nijien/ anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553707
Stop responding to the retarded newfag already. You already know he's just talking out of his ass so why the fuck are you even trying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553673
>>22553689
kill yourselves, holofags shit on other holos more than nijiniggers even could or would

[Anonymous No.]

>Salty anti-mika mysta fujos
>mika defender probably mysta himself
>anti-nijisanji "you will regret it, riku" indogs
Wow

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553674
everyone here is seanig you get out now

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553563
I don't make up magic numbers nor pretend that JP is less culled than EN, just that even between streamers in JP the culls weren't the same. I hate you more though, and how you've constantly contributed to timelooping while complaining about it for over half a year now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553648
30% average drop for JP vs 38% average drop for EN as their debut buff was wearing off is hardly 50% vs 10% like you fags are trying to make out

[Anonymous No.]

Vsaikyou season 3 preparty numbers
>king 48k
>emperor 45k

Vsaikyou season 4 preparty numbers
>king 37k
>emperor 52k

Nijibros what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553655
Leeching from most popular tourney team.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553751
At least social credit will help me, but it won't help Cover and HoloEN for long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553772
I havent been to nijiEN since sometime between obsidya and ethyria. I watched rosemi and selen til council took up my time for them

[Anonymous No.]

Why do I feel like there are ongoing clique wars between NijiENs? Is there a power struggle between Mysta and Vox?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553704
>zoomer
what are you? a boomer? damn oldfag is here also

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553752
Kiwifarm

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553800
Okay stay mad I don't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553775
Kek I was just bored since the horse race is pretty much decided already. But yeah, either this is a newfag or just Nijiniggers trying to bait (You)s again.

[Anonymous No.]

there are lonely fujos here?

[Anonymous No.]

>22553282
What kind of grudgeposting is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553826
This post makes zero sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553835
It doesn't matter since Nijisanji culture is already like that. NijiEN will still get high numbers anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553805
There -is- no average drop for JP because they had so little of a cull that it was masked by their usual monthly variance, that's the point. Learn to read the context of numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553369
Saturday night in SEA
Just saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553927
Someone who needs to get the fuck out of /#/ for a few days by the sounds of it. Not that I don't sympathize but yeesh that's an unhealthy amount of anger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553826
this is sad for you. take you meds already

[Anonymous No.]

Do you that posts which defend Mika?
I wouldn't be surprised if mysta is /here/

[Anonymous No.]

>holoEN cull and ccvid cope again
here we go again

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553905
>a newfag or just Nijiniggers
I'm thinking both. I don't know, the sheer stupidity of his posts screams both to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554021
>he says, calling it a cope and thus joining the other half of the timeloop
Starting to think that whoever whines about this loop is just afraid of the cull becoming a fully accepted fact

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553938
>still get high numbers anyway
you mean bots until they get mass reported and cancelled for a few days by youtube when is confirmed. Make and general apologize and substract all their bots subs. That would be at least a easy punishment for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553952
>merely pretending
i hope someone shoots you dead anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553805
>30% average drop
you're trying to account for this apparent 69% cull on AZKI as a factor in that average, when this was her month of December. It's just fucking rebroadcasts.

Her month in november had a live concert showing, which is why her average was higher in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554007
See, this is just baffling to me
Like, pick your fucking fight
If I see a day where my oshi can win then I will shitpost
If the day is lost I disengage and do something else

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how much of a mental breakdown the NjiEN side is going to have as we approach the date of Mori's first solo live

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553001
aren't you just coping about Hololive beating niji in general? Its more popular in Japan, more popular in Taiwan, more popular in Indonesia, and yes, still more popular in the West.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553001
small dog syndrome? small dog syndrome

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554185
By then, NijiEN already got more sponsorships than HoloEN anyway so who cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554044
Time to take time off of /#/, I guess. Having an argument with someone who doesn't even use their brain is just boring.
See you lads on the evening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554130
imaginary "missing" numbers is pretty much cope that only exists here my guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554160
I used median anon, it could've been a 69% cull or 31% and it would make no difference. Learn2number please if you're going to post here

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554130
Funny that it's a fully accepted fact everywhere VTubers are discussed except /here/. Literally even Leddit and Twitter talk about EN audiences being culled when it comes to number, yet some in the numberfag thread adamantly refuse to believe it
(Yeah, I know that's a shitposter, but still...)

[Anonymous No.]

Kazuha might lose his bronze?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554185
I wonder how much of a mental breakdown Mori would face if she stands on an empty stage because she has no hardcore japanese fans that would actually attend her live?

[Anonymous No.]

HUGE YAB IN AQUA STREAM

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553776
Who blamed nijiniggers? It's obvious that they play both sides. They like chaos

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554347
Almost 7k is too big of a gap. Until it's within 2-3k range, King is safe

[Anonymous No.]

A imaginary cull that specifically only affects HoloEN really sounds like holocope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554347
no way in hell this is breaking 30k

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554347
Kuzuha peaked at 37k+ anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554403
Meh norio call

[Anonymous No.]

Tamaki just went from 10k to 12k just from Aqua visiting for a minute kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554463
HOLY FUCK MALE (FEMALE) TRYING TO CALL AQUA ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554403
Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Tamaki ch doubles her ccv

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554448
It affects NijiEN Females too, anon. Heck, it even affects NijiEN Males, although to much lesser extent (according to Vox, a less than 10% drop)

[Anonymous No.]

Chat just went panic mode kek, well the EN side that is. Fucking EOPs not gonna lie i did too

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554325
yes but we don't know the exact numbers and how much it affected JP and EN
People who said it's 10% for JP and 40% for EN were being disingenuous

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, that's a smart move from Tamaki

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554428
Don't underestimate Hololive's funnels

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554325
Literally nobody is denying a cull you absolute spastic, we're just telling you that you can't say EN is being culled by half while JP is barely touched when your only "evidence" is things like likes and poll participation which can be explained by cultural differences

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554044
>newfag
It's the samurai schizo, he's been at it since September before CCVID was even a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553282
>become mentally ill because of numbers
HOLYKEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554554
We already derived the real numbers from matching poll engagement, likes and vod views to other non-affected streamers, -you- are being disingenuous if you don't want to accept that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553282
nta anon and not even in this convo, but this is some schizo shit anon, maybe you should take a break for a day or two

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554280
uhh i think your point is moot when a HoloEN literally got a major label, and on good terms too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554579
Culture differences don't explain this, fuck off
>>22551908
>>22552838
>>22552914

[Anonymous No.]

Exactly how many tourists are on Aqua's stream to no recognize Tamaki's voice...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554548
It was obvious that aqua left mic on purpose. But I did have fun typing yabe and etc in chat

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking EOPs in Aqua chat I swear. Anything EN related is a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554745
go back to /jp/ lost samurai

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554579
>Literally nobody is denying a cull you absolute spastic, we're just telling you that you can't say EN is being culled by half while JP is barely touched when your only "evidence" is things like likes and poll participation which can be explained by cultural differences
I don't know about "half", but Millie's "leak" showed that her CCV was ~30% lower than the actual CCV in her analytics page.
>poll participation which can be explained by cultural differences
While you can explain it somewhat, you can't reasonably explain such a massive difference, though. VTubers with EN audience - mainly HoloEN, but it applies to NijiEN Females most of the time too - have pools with significantly higher participation rate than not just JP VTubers', but EN streamers' (both on Twitch and YT) as well? Are you saying that EN VTuber fans somehow are a lot more engaging than every other audiences, be it JP VTuber fans or EN normal streamer fans, or EN Twitch VTuber fans?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh it's just the likeschizo, never mind there's no point reasoning with him

[Anonymous No.]

>sub 5k
Ninja...

[Anonymous No.]

ASIA GOLD

[Anonymous No.]

>>22553001
Have a (You)

[Anonymous No.]

>Aqua wrapped up
HERE COMES THE FUNNEL!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554579
>cultural differences
You are such a fucking fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554983
what continent is aqua from anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554885
How many schizo do we even have here ?
Between the gen5 schizo, the sponsor schizo, the likeschizo, the nocullschizo, the ERschizo, the last samurai and the chink fujos, this thread is doomed...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555029
I got dumped on Okayu Elden Ring, fleeing some monster enemy

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555047
>>22554885

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554635
I agree that EN is being culled worst than JP but the 1 to 3 or 4 ratio is ridiculous.
Most JP viewers live in the same time zone so that explained the VOD views.
For like, it could be cultural differences I'm not sure but the difference is certainly not THAT big like only about 30% on average.
For polls, I haven't seen any comparison between JP polls and EN polls yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555047
>>22554885

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554983
I knew SpyxFamily was huge as a manga but never expected to translate that into the anime outside Japan.
Is this a warm up once the gates of hell are open with the chainsawman anime?

[Anonymous No.]

>muh cull
Chumbies, just accept that Gura won't ever win a gold again. Not even with 3D debut.

[Anonymous No.]

Apex tourists

[Anonymous No.]

iroha lost a lot of good faith huh
holoX crashing harder than gen5

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554885
>>22555089
>vtuber compared to non-vtuber
Is that the best you got?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22551749
Just because someone knows HoloEN+ID are fucked doesn't mean they're going to acknowledge it publicly, especially if they're biased against non-JP girls. This time, it looks like youtube is going for a gradual bleed out rather than an instant gutting like during CCVID.

[Anonymous No.]

thinking the cull or ccvid or whatever is real doesnt change the fact that EN is reclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554983

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555130
Just filter cull.
Its the same retards arguing among themselves on loop

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555145
unironically this, imagine miko and laplus not breaking 30k
>>22555135
kek, funnel where?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555135
>Expecting people that, after watching 4 hours and it being midnight, to move to another stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555112
I'm pretty sure for likes it -can- be cultural differences but the level of it that people claim, as far as vtubers/hololive goes at the VERY least, kind of got thrown out when Gura streamed in JP primetime. The biggest argument people had was that EN fans = bigger likes, and that it was purely that reason for why Gura always ended up with more likes, and yet Gura played Project Diva and ended stream with 32k likes right at the end. So it shut a lot of people up about it because this is a completely different set of fans watching, not the EN fans people always use.

But yes, I will at least agree though that JP viewers tend to like a lot less, though it does happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555145
Iroha has no direction or signature content right now. She really needs to hope a Minecraft arc starts soon so she can use that to drag herself back to respectability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555250
Well tbf it's Saturday -> Sunday transition in JP time, there should be some people still awake to continue watching streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555238
>>22555289
replying to the schizo, kys already

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555289
there was supposed to be a haachama and iroha collab on minecraft.... but it never happened...gozaru...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555223
combined CCV with the Asia premiere would put it already at 70k! I kneel!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555250
Soooo, tourists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555204
They aren't reclining even with the cull, though? See picrel and how they have been trending up since CCVID month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554885
Ludwig's unlisted vods

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, just notice that people can donate straight through comments now, is this something new?

Pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555170
>>22555287

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555390
>now you can farm likes with superchats
Jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555390
You mean "Super Thanks"? Must be a year old or so

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555390
It's 2-3 month old YT function that not many ppl using it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555390
Superthanks has been around for about a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555390
it's called a "thanks" I think
pretty much an SC but for the video
IDK if holos have it yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554885
>>22555386
>>22555429
I can only conclude that holoEN fans are botting likes.

[Anonymous No.]

Whos the retard who keeps spamming shit about Holox? The entire EN branch is declining. Hololive is losing momentum in general with no events this month. People are bored after Holofes and they can actually go outside. Laplus is still primed to be a Miko / Subaru / Pekora level figure in a year or so. Stop spewing garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555385
How can you say that when Gura has struggled to get 20k nowadays. Myth struggles to get 10k. I think Mumei is the only EN that is inclining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555390
it's a 6 months old feature, almost no one use it though

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554885
>>22555429
All these proof of dead subs right here but cumkek can't stop going
>Muh cull

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555390
Yeah superthanks, basically superchat for people who can't catch the stream live. Don't ask me why that's a thing though.

[Anonymous No.]

large incline on miko collab, can they hit 30k after all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554983
>>22555223
where's muse EN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22554885
Oh ffs anybody have a screenshot of the VOD comparisons I made a few days ago about Gura and comparing it with Sykunno and Pokimane on Twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555135
>>22555029
It takes time to convert tourists to fans, and fans to box. Aqua will keep maybe 10% of tourists for future non-apex streams. In time, some of these will turn to box who will funnel to hololivers.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you guys feel it? Kazuha gonna slip out of bronze soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555429
>41k likes
>still less VODs
This reminds me that Unalive has more likes than Template but Template has 400k more views even though it came out more recently. This proves that EOPs are more prone to leave likes compared to JPs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555499
They are averting their eyes from the truth of the failed HoloEN Fortnite collab. Meanwhile Luxiem inclined hard and carried as a whole NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555429
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/30GbgsPpcqk
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/jbmUs-eFjrA
These are the streams you're trying to compare. a 37k peak 7 hour long Pekora stream to a 17k peak 3 hour long Gura stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555617
did you just jinx it...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555487
Fucking kek
>LAPLUS WILL BE THE NEW PEKORA ANY DAY AND ALSO HOLOLIVE IS RECLINING BTW FUCK EN
classic gen 6 fag:only gen he ever witnessed debut, can't let go of their debut numbers, calls others reclining but his own gen is going down the gutter

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555499
>Who care about your stupid numbers and graphs, I have feelings.
Not how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555617
no way
the stream randomly lags and getting culled like crazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555617
No. The dude peak at 37k?+ and i doubt miko/la+ can reach that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555223
kobo killer

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555503
anon those dead subs do their vod reps. There's a reason why Gura can hit 500k views on sub 20k ccv streams.
I still agree culls exist due to the poll figures we saw from Mori and Zeta.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555617
Feels like there's not enough time.

[Anonymous No.]

Seems like Miko caught more of the APEX funnel than Kuzuha

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555671
the length and ccv has nothing to do with the like to vod view ratio

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555666
>>22555671
Retardchama, these are the 2 vods he's trying to compare.
https://youtu.be/30GbgsPpcqk
https://youtu.be/jbmUs-eFjrA
Holostat links in other quoted comment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555751
is it happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555684
Remove collabs and use their solo streams. Maybe you will see where I'm coming from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555752
It absolutely does. It’s funny you use Pekora’s debut Sekiro stream also and not the Sekiro she played on the SAME DAY and the SAME TIME as Gura, in which she got blasted to all hell at every stage of verification.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555611
Imagine comparing Gura with literal whos
Compare Gura with xQc and let's see how "popular" she really is

[Anonymous No.]

1 Million
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUP3OI9Yhmc

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555617
I will always cheer for KING.
I consider him honorary holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555223
combined CCV of Indonesia and Asia
AQUA MOGGED

[Anonymous No.]

Who cares about bronze
AQUA GOLD

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555867
Do you even know what ccv represents? Or what vod views represent? Or what likes represent? Because you clearly DON'T

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555666
This doesn't proof that EOPs are more prone to leaving like as much as this doesn't proof that Hoshiyomis do their song looping reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555801
I'm trying to refrain from calling you a retard, but surely deliberately removing all of their most viewed content in order to see a recline is just inventing a narrative?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555867
Jesas Pekora got mogged, that's some blasting. I, I kneel to the shark...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555499
Chart doesn't lie, anon. They have been trending up since CCVID.
Talking about Gura specifically, from Jan (not counting Jan due to CCVID wrecking everyone's numbers), her median and mean CCVs respectively are:
16.2k, 18.5k (Feb)
17.7k, 18.8k (March)
19.1k, 23.7k (April - up until 15 April)
You can see how her numbers have been going up since the drop at the end of 2021 (CCVID and fewer events / streams)

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555870
Tf xqc has more ccv in this time slot than NA prime time

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555933
>This doesn't proof
Nice English

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555867
>thinking people will watch Sekiro VODS
You know Pekora streams a lot so nousagis don't watch VODS. Even Gura gets less VODs when she streams twice in a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555932
>big numbers < small numbers
now that's some cope

[Anonymous No.]

How are we going back to Pekora vs Gura already? Not like they pulled some impressive numbers recently

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555947
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/gTJlFp35Wpk
Best part is? Pekora AVERAGED Gura's highest peak that steam. They both streamed in the same exact hours, with Pekora streaming an hour longer. Gura also had a long superchat reading her stream too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555683
Subaru was a mid tier Holo for like the first 2 years of her career. Pekora was once considered the failed concept of Sankisei. Yet somehow Laplus is doing bad for her first year? If you are going play the oldfag card at least know basic shit. Embarassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555995
How in the world did you reach that conclusion from the post you are replying to, cumschizo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555877
nice !

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555990
Learn to read nigger, those were screenshotted at 4 hours after the stream ended meaning it's during post-processing for the views obtained during the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555867
>It’s funny you use Pekora’s debut Sekiro stream
I posted it and that wasn't me you're replying to, I just wanted a VOD from around the same time with similar views. And please explain how length of stream affects likes with evidence, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

Aqua should just be an Apex streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555962
>April 23k
That's highly skewed by the collab on April 1 and karaoke on April 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555962
Damn I'm glad we are in April now, back during Jan and mid Feb this thread was unusable because schizos will just use the CCVID numbers for their agenda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556048
>4h to farm vod views for the streamer whose audience live in different timezones
Wow!

[Anonymous No.]

Touya and a Niji got 18k

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555867
That was what convinced me all the non-JP Hololive girls were getting culled. But if the girls aren't going to say or do shit about it, then there's nothing to be done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556081
>Her big numbers are skewed by her streams that got big numbers.
Yes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556086
They still are?

[Anonymous No.]

Not much hype in /#/ today.
Despite it being a huge number day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556031
Whats wrong about that? Vod growth has more to do with subs amount than ccv average or peak.

[Anonymous No.]

I've seen Gura vs Pekora timeloop several times, but do we have Vox vs Kuzuha timeloop here?

[Anonymous No.]

It's amusing how the Gura VODs guy kept insisting he's only tracking Gura VODs because it's interesting but now he's going full "Pekora got blasted" and trying to brag about how much better Gura did than Pekora, guess he's not that unbiased after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556081
And that's the point? What next, you gonna say Aqua's number is highly skewed by Apex and taking it out will prove that she's reclining or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556178
someone is too busy looping i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556122
Gaku anon, your kana reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556191
Maybe if Vox can maintain a 20k median for a month

[Anonymous No.]

Alright so I'm copypasting my analysis I made a few days ago because we're timelooping again.

So I got curious and went to check on Twitch to compare streamer Vods on games with Gura because Podcasts are ultimately an entirely different subject from a regular gaming Livestream.

I used Sykuno on Twitch for reference who has 4 million followers. Looking at his vods from the last week he gets around 300k total on the low end to 600k on the high end. Gura typically gets similar always usually being in 300k+ realm on the low end while on the high end she gets 800k-1million in a VOD.

For another comparison Pokimane with 9million for the past week with gaming stream VODs typically got between 400k+ on the low end, 600k+ as a middle ground, and 900k+ as her highest point within a week due to the r/place buff.

In conclusion yeah no what your saying is horseshit. Gura VOD wise is well within where it should be for her amount of subscribers and can even punch above her weight class on special occasions.

To add onto this I checked Sykuno's VODs again on twitch for the last 4 days and his last 4 VODs had a range of 200k to 380k.

Using another Streamer Disguised Toast. He's currently been doing a $100,000 Rust tournament event so super buffed content for him. 1.2 million last VOD. Previous normal streams 212k to 518k views.

Another look at Pokimane. Recent VOD views 350k to 388k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556191
The nijiEN schizo that calls everyone "holoniggers" does a bit of that when he shits on nijiJP, but one schizo isn't much of a timeloop

[Anonymous No.]

jwu did niji win any gold today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556218
I mean if you say someone is inclining because she collabs a lot. That's not really inclining. It's like the Luxiemfags saying they are a 10k median CCV just because they spammed Karaoke, collabs and celebrations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556205
Telling the truth doesn't make you biased. Gura does get more views than Pekora. That is an undeniable fact

[Anonymous No.]

>April 2022
>People still pretending that vod growth has nothing to do with subs amount at all
One day numberfriends, one day

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556205
>>22512325
What do you mean? I watch and keep track of how Holos do as a whole. And I brought Gura up here. I don't get where you're getting the idea that I'm biased when I've openly critiqued Gura/Gura's vods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22555867
>NA chumbuds wake up and watch the VOD after it ends
>"they must've watched live and been culled!!!1!"
Gura's VOD views are impressive as hell but it's a different thing to CCV, praise her on her own merits instead of making up thing about her other metrics that aren't supported by data

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556205
He's mindbroken by Aqua dropping literally consecutive 1m VODs and 60k avg ccv. He can only cope by timelooping Gura vs Pekora while ignoring the elephant that is Aqua.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556311
EN gold babyyy, we're on a 3 day streak with 4th already guaranteed. NijiEN might as well get monthly gold this April since it's no contest now.

[Anonymous No.]

miko & la+ 30k getto !

yahtzee is the best mode to boost numbers in clubhouse 51 huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556081
She sings Karaoke and collabs with other members every month, anon. You can't just go "Oh, those are collabs and karaoke, I won't count them" for April and yet counting every other months' collabs and karaoke.
Heck, even if you remove those two streams, she will still be left with 17,762 Median and 18,844k Average, very slightly higher than her March numbers still.

[Anonymous No.]

chink fujos here again? unleash the copy pasta, you know the one

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556356
>He doesn't follow processed views in real time
Gura was getting 8k chunks per processed interval to Pekora's 3-4k. It was not "chumbuds waking up" it was Gura flat out peaking higher in views being drawn in through processing by hour 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556319
A regular collab and a karaoke are just normal buff streams. They aren't comparable to 1 off celebrations and events. Fucking obviously you will see a recline if you randomly discount regular buff streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556319
They are, though? I don't think anyone denied that they (well, by "they" I meant Vox and Mysta, Luxiem isn't 5 Vox / Mysta) aren't 10k median CCV chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556353
Sorry, you're not going to convince me you don't have an axe to grind in the horse race when you say stuff like >blasted to all hell at every stage of verification
like it's some competition for Gura to win

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556413
Compare that to December Gura then? Is it a bigger median?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556377
If aqua's views dips to 500k with 60k ccv, then it's prime shitpost material

[Anonymous No.]

When did Twitch streamers start mis-using vtuber tag?
Xqc is the biggest vtuber in terms of ccv.

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck is Kaela beating Moona with a zatsu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556514
Anon, please go look at the time I posted that. I want to quote something I said about Pekora too in that post:
>"It’ll likely be somewhere between 400-420k in the hours coming, which doesn’t stand out at all for a 7 hour vod when all said and done."
Please read the fine print right there. Because it seems like your brain is so rattled and jello that you can't make sense of anything.

Okay, now that you've read it:
https://youtu.be/4vn_YDs6WjI
Please, tell me how many views does Pekora have on that VOD? I'd like to hear it from your own words.

I track VODs. I make posts because I'm confident in my observational skills from doing this for a while. I don't beat around the bush with any of it. So before you try to schizo like you always do, try to come to understand that I make these posts for the thread to have for themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

Apex tourists...
Please watch Matsuri...
She is still streaming apex...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556684
>Collab with literally who
Yeah I wonder why

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556689
Please understand. Self hating weeb last samurai hate anything that paints Gura in a good light. Whether it be your posts or that guy who posts that all encompassing chart at the end of the month. They always try to discredit it.

I think you are doing great work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556756
Apex tourists have a blacklist on who to not watch
Matsuri is at the very top of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556547
As soon as the tag was introduced.

[Anonymous No.]

why does the chumbud vod schizo guy always use so many fucking words to say nothing meaningful

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556515
Yes, she had higher number in Dec, but it was more of Dec was a big jump rather than a drop, seeing that her Nov mean and median are similar to her current median and mean (20.6k, 21.9k vs current 19.1k, 23.7k). I'm not going to dig through the archive to figure out what caused the jump, though.
Regardless, the point still stand: she has been inclining for the last 4 months. She got a drop compared to Dec (which was her highest point in 2021), but is still at the same level as her Nov. I wouldn't call that reclining per se.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556756
Sry, no startend in custom to stalk for

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556786
is collabing with WHOs that much of a debuff that a zatsu would've been better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556962
Yes + it's a huge debuff game to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556397
One unarchived karaoke per day + Vox birthday will guarantee NijiEN April EN Gold. No hard feeling, Holofags

[Anonymous No.]

I find it funny how this fangame made in like 2 months looks better than Vampire Survivor
https://mobile.twitter.com/kaynimatic/status/1514796023721312271

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556918
Sorry I'm a newfag and I want to ask: what is mean ? And median is average viewers per stream, right ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556689
I'm not sure why you're bringing up an old post when I'm quoting stuff said in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557068
Anon, your math rep....

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>>22556962
>is collabing with WHOs that much of a debuff
Yes, not just for Moona but for Matsuri, Fubuki and any other Holo stepping outside the box

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556689
Too many EN schizos shitposters and EN gold posters have tainted anything EN related in this thread. And I will be honest I don't care if youtube is purposely fucking over just holoEN. I don't really want to hear about EN.

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>>22556356
EN VOD growth is similar to JP VOD growth.
VODs get the vast majority of their views during the stream.
People that think Gura only has similar sized VODs to the top JPs because of VOD watchers are wrong.

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>>22555867
Ccv to Vod is not really good measurement. Its inconsistent period. You are the only fanbase that uses this shit. Suisei who have slightly higher peak than pekora in MK8 collab is below pekora in vod for example. Another example of how inconsistent ccv to vod.

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>>22557068
Mean is what most people think of as average, median is the middle point if you line all of the streams up from lowest to highest. They're both types of averages, means is more all encompassing, while median discounts outliers such as big events or dead sc reading streams. They're both useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556839
Do they watch her teammates at least?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557132
Sorry. I'm ESL. Also i already search on google about it, I just want to make sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557068
>what is mean
Mean average of something = sum the something, divide by the number of events in your sample.
Median = sort your sample, pick the midpoint if there are an odd number or the midway point of the two midpoints if there are even

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557039
it's not made yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557068
Mean is the average
Median of a set is the "middle number" that larger than half of the set and smaller than the other half.
For example, a set of 10, 50, 60, 20, 40
Mean = (10 + 50 + 60 + 20 + 40) / 5 = 36
Median = 40 because 40 > 10 and 20, while smaller than 50 and 60

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557236
ehhh not anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

EN Gold

https://youtu.be/cX3uJWJkDZ4

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557200
>>22557253

Thanks anons. Really really appreciate your help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557322
>Split PoV
Yeah, no. Not going to beat Luca's first unarchived Karaoke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557322
nah, Ina has an unarchived karaoke, it'll be that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557305
I get it now. Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557268
I know it's not out yet but considering whose making and the progress what I say is a safe bet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557363
>Luca
Kek, no way will he be any good. Nobody will be watching that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557371
Luca has a 400k celebration karaoke at 17:00 JST (which will probably last for a few hours). Ina's unarchived karaoke isn't going to beat that

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>>22556962
Depend on who they collab outside the box. The girl Moona collabing with is a random indie who just jumped into vtuber meta. People refuse to watch someone like that because it looks like Moona is shilling her friend.

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>>22557449
Anon, it's in JST / Asian timeslots and is a milestone celebration (400k). I will be very surprised if he doesn't get at least 15k

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/gUiXcek0vV4
Do you guys like Japanese Kronii?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22556918
I stand by my opinion that solo streams should be the only metric used when calculating incline or decline.

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>>22557199
ENs consistently outperform JPs that supposedly had close to the same CCV.
There have been comparisons before right after the stream while the VODs were processing.
Last year Gura had more views on the Minecraft fest stream than Pekora at all times even though she had a much lower CCV and streamed 30 minutes less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557504
She earns money, Kronii less so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557453
>Luca
Niji"EN" was transfered over to CN Gold. They no longer compete in EN gold since english speakers don't watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557496
Yea the Fujos are gonna come out and we gonna get another rollercoaster graph people will argue is completely natural.

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>>22556689
You're yelling at a brick wall, anon. You can show solid circumstantial evidence and most people here won't care because they have a huge bias against western vtuber fans. Doesn't help that Luxiem and NippleEN fans as a whole have made it a hell of a lot easier to justify that kind of bias.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Novpl66g3k
Pretty good views for a clip about Astel praising Suisei

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>>22557553
Why? Then you're just calculating how popular the current game they're grinding is half of the time. They could be consistently averaging more ccv, vods, SCs, or any other metric month on month, and your method could still show a decline. What's the point of only looking at a small part of the picture?

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>>22557617
>we gonna get another rollercoaster graph people will argue is completely natural.
>people
those aren't people, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557566
You do realize ENs have a larger audience pool which the Algorithmn can recommend right? JPs are like NBA and ENs is FIBA. More people can watch the FIBA cup but NBA is the better brand

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557751
That is the dumbest thing I've ever read. Congrats.

The modern NBA is pure trash by the way. Terrible product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557751
>JPs are like NBA and ENs is FIBA. More people can watch the FIBA cup but NBA is the better brand
What does this mean for non-burgers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557722
Fair point

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>>22557718
>solo streams last month vs solo streams this month
How would that be wrong? Grinding popular games will incline them. Do you think Aqua or Kuzuha would be big if they played Valorant all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

This means the stream is so unenjoyable almost everyone is leaving

[Anonymous No.]

This discussion remind me of that dude who keep insisting Cover should make JP the side branch

[Anonymous No.]

EN gimped horse race ruined this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557917
>everyone is leaving
escaping*

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557917
>Muh cultural differences
Its obvious there is bullshit going on. Susan needs to fix her shit.

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>>22557892
No, and your method would prove that apex is better than valorant if they played them solo. But considering all of aqua's streams on apex are collabs your method wouldn't event register most of her stuff this month. She could literally have the best month in history and your method would be sat looking at her sushi stream and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557917
Meanwhile Millie has over 1k in a tagalog speaking stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558002
>implying it wasn't shit long before that
How new?

[Anonymous No.]

anyone know the source site for >>22557787

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557972
He's not wrong, the JP market is a deceptive trap because it hinges on catering to a declining market while the rest of the world is on the incline. This would be clearer to everyone if Susan didn't cull non-JP vtuber CCVs that hard and hide their actual popularity. The first company to focus wholly on investments in the Western market like Playstation did will be the eventual winner of this war.

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>>22557751
The Minecraft fest VOD was tracked from the moment it ended through processing.
It's impossible for Gura to have been higher because of people coming and watching the VOD.
Also, like I said earlier, similar sized ENs and JPs don't actually differ much in VOD growth.
It depends more on what the VOD is whether it will see long legs or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557917
The cull has been gradual, unlike the big CCVID one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558140
>He
I'm, FIFY

[Anonymous No.]

Moona and Millie are almost directly comparable to each other.

Millie as you know was one of the most beloved Indie vtubers of all time. Her and Moona were friends who speak the same language and collab together. Both joined different companies, Hololive and Nijisanji.

Although Millie is at the weaker company, and is one of the weakest streamers in NijiEN, she gets about the same daily views and subs that Moona gets. She also has about the same superchat as Moona. They are almost a direct comparison for each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558067
>40k sushi stream this month
Vs
>23k Apex stream last month
See it's still an incline

[Anonymous No.]

>>22557892
NTA but let me give you a gist of your 'logic' here. Let's say Aqua played Apex for 3 consecutive days, then played Minecraft for another 3. The first 3 days averaged for 28k, 29k, and 30k CCV consecutively, and the later 3 averaged 20k, 21k, and 22k CCV. According to your logic, she's reclining here since 30k > 22k. See how shit this logic is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558185
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558099
It looks like an Excel spreadsheet. If the poster didn't say the source he used, then there's no way to know

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558140
It beg a question, if Susan want to target Vtuber then why not cull them all equally? Why make different cull system for specific regions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558182
>Although Millie is at the weaker company
You are doing Nijisanji a disservice by saying out loud that NijiEN is weaker than HoloID

[Anonymous No.]

>>22545860
NUMBERBROS OUR QUEEN

[Anonymous No.]

>early NA timeslot?
>part of the same wave with increased shared audience?

No problem!
Let's all of us overlap! Why not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558239
It isn't targeting regions specifically per-se, but either a type of viewer or a type of viewer behavior that shows up less in JP or more in EN/ID. That would make more sense.

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>70,461: Aqua (Hololive)
>52,114: Hal (Neo Porte)
>37,926: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>31,411: Miko (Hololive)
>25,564: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,366: Pekora (Hololive)
>23,342: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,282: Suisei (Hololive)
>21,167: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>20,604: Miko (Hololive)
>18,235: Noel (Hololive)
>17,296: Mika (Nijisanji)
>17,125: Okayu (Hololive)
>16,227: Towa (Hololive)
>14,476: Elira (Nijisanji)
>14,053: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>12,994: Luca (Nijisanji)
>12,786: Botan (Hololive)
>11,749: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,379: Calli (Hololive)
>10,242: Nose (VSPO)

Tamaki stream got DQ because it's a facecam stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558273
Reimu is one of circumstance due to VSaikyo, but the rest....

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558273
Kek. One of them is even anniversary stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558273
Anon Nijisanji has such a vast number of talents avoiding overlaps is completely impossible. They don't even try to do it.

Also nijisanji talents stream so much, there's no way to avoid overlaps anyway. You have many options for what to watch, you aren't forced to watch a stream you don't want to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558239
It's not Susan waging crusade against vtubers, it's "anti spam" filters that Youtube added.
How badly CCV is effected depends on what your viewers are doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558308
Aqua I kneel. That illegal funnel shot Suisei straight into the top 10 and Towa into the list.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCaeVOyBrKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX3uJWJkDZ4
So far at least 5 Elden Ring streams tonight, I wonder how many more

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558188
Yes. Bigger numbers turning to smaller numbers is recline. Why do you think popular streamers get pushed to their niche and can't branch out? It's the fear of reclining if the new content is not popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558182
Nobody cares Nipplenigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558182
>Her and Moona were friends who speak the same language
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558365
>forced to watch a stream
if you are being forced to watch streams i think you have bigger problems to worry about

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558260
They are. Aside from Luxiem celebration spam HoloID routinly gets higher viewership

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558182
>ID vs EN
>Direct comparison
Holy mother of cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558545
Uhh okay then, guess we will never get to a mutual understanding. Have a nice day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558615
Hololive fans shuttle from stream to stream, watching whatever is playing. Usually they only have 1 or 2 streams to choose from. Nijisanji fans meanwhile have such a huge wealth of streams, they have the luxury to choose what they want

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558308

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558540
Everyone getting their streams in early because vsaikyou starts at like 18JST or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558676
oh it's you, nvm forget i said anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558723
You walked right into that one Anon. It's the nijishill that's decided that camping in /#/ is a good use of their time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558273
It's 11:00AM NA, hardly "early" NA timeslot. It's only early NA timeslot if you are a NEET. It's 11:00PM JST / 10:00PM GMT+8 (aka CN / HK / SEA), aka Asian hours (maybe late Asian hours)

[Anonymous No.]

Selen Tatsuki streamed 5 1/2 hours yesterday.
Elira Pendora did an Unarchived English karaoke to 14,000 people.
Finana did her 300k celebration yesterday.
Luca toured his fan's minecraft server with all the girls yesterday.

Today we get Clubhouse games with Finana, and Pomu playing Metal Gear Solid 2.

Nijisanji fans have so many streams to watch, it's ridiculous. Even a single Nijisanji talent streams more than all of hololive English combined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558779
He types like the seething 2 view, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558792
?
You're going to have to be specific, NA is made up of 4 different timezones, and EST 11am is actually midnight JP right now (daylight savings).

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558966
Seething 2view and this bloke have similar styles but are probably different people. This one tries to convince people to watch Niji, the other one has an unhealthy obsession with Yagoo's Anus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558308

[Anonymous No.]

Aqua has the tourney tomorrow (HAL is the favorite but I could see her peaking higher if Startendo does well in a hype round 3 or 4) and possibly a zatsu or zatsuta a couple days after the tournament to talk about it, otherwise she probably wont stream again this month

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558956
I could stream watching paint dry for 24 hours, does not mean its qaulity content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558956
You couldn't pay me enough to watch any of that trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22559055
Both equally bad at shilling

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558956
Actually only Ame and Kiara stream anywhere close to the average Nijisanji talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22559107
possible two 100k streams tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558308
nose slipped in, damn.

Also, 3 NijiEN/IDs. Kinda surprising they are taking April by surprise with the karaoke permissions and 3 EN birthdays+1 Mika's disappointing BD. They'll need to rejoice because they aren't gonna experience this ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22559107
2 weeks break for aqua right ? Any news of break from suisei / towa ?

[Anonymous No.]

>replying to himself from a mobile phone
sad

[Anonymous No.]

If the people here hates chinks all that much, why isn't the mods rangebanning China? I can't even post here using a VPN with my location at amsterdam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22559107
>otherwise she probably wont stream again this month
Meaning she'll finish with a 60k+ median for the month, DAMN

[Anonymous No.]

>>22559107
Currently she has 6 Golds and 4 Videos over 1M this month, with the stream 2 days ago at 957k that may limp to 1M, todays stream which is still processing views, the Startend cover which will assuredly hit 1M within a week, the Tourney which is probably the biggest lock to 1M ever and the possible zatsu (unlikely for this one)

[Anonymous No.]

How long did Luca's Mafia cover reached 1M? If Vox pushes a cover/OG, will it beat reflect with the sheer viewfarm at their disposals or does he really suck, irredeemable bad level, to do a song?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22559268
Forget Hal, I myself want Aqua to participate in more tourneys
Too bad though

[Anonymous No.]

Oh nijishill is here too. He sometimes visits global these days aswell. Damn i wish i had that much free time

[Anonymous No.]

>>22559171
Just need to endure this shit for 2 more weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22559006
They started at 11:00PM JST, as you can see on that pic (Vrabi shows time in JST). 11:00PM JST is 11:00AM EDT / East Coast and 8:00AM PDT / West Coast. The other timezones are between those. None of them can be considered "early" unless, as I said, you are a NEET (granted, it's Saturday, but still...).

[Anonymous No.]

>>22558308

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii 700k sub celebration onegai the nijisisters are winning...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22559186
Towa has two collabs scheduled on the 19th