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I think her music is alright and her singing is above avg. Thats pretty much it.
I genuinely feel the ID singers are better than her in every single way and when talking about the entire en sphere, she wont even make the top 15 based on singing ability

>> No.22500363

>>22500317
At least she’s got a good model

>> No.22500480

>>22500363
>At least she’s got a good model
The majority of /vt/ thinks otherwise.

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>>22500317
Is this the shill thread?
next time change the filename retard-chama.
>>/vt/thread/21854561

>> No.22500747

>>22500363
roru
rumao

>> No.22500784

>>22500317
I think even Vshojo girls mog in singing ability

>> No.22501004

>>22500317
Hello Enna schizo, i still wont give your oshi a chance

>> No.22501086

I will never click your links, ennafag

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>> No.22501283

>>22501004
>>22501086
Why are Holofags so insecure, where does it say that this thread is created by a Enna fan?
If anything, its a Holo fan being honest about his opinion anons. This is why no one likes you guys

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>>22500480
and /vt/ is regularly wrong, so?

>> No.22502767

I think everyone knows Hololive doesn't have the best singers by now, just the best streamers. If you just look at small corpos like tsunderia, prism, phase they have way better singers than hololive, and ofc nijisanji as well, and ofc independents which blow all corpos because they don't have an emphasis on streaming. The only people that think holo singers are good are the ones that somehow think singing ability is an "opinion" when it really isn't at all if you analyze their proficiencies and deficiencies. The voice is an instrument, and some people put in more/better practice into using it into others, some have more experience using it. Your tone and vibe as kids call it is also learned. The only thing innate is your natural pitch and your vocal cavity, which alone do not determine your skill, it simply determines whether your voice is a violin as opposed to a viola or bass for example.

>> No.22503648

>>22502767
you dont know shit about music kid. Go back

>> No.22503758

>>22502767
>>22500317
>IRyS was considered one of the best english language utaites for years
>All of a sudden she gets into Hololive and there are endless posts about hiw mediocre she is
You shills can fuck off. She was one of the best then and she is still one of the best now.

>> No.22503856

>>22503758
So was Enna anon. So does that mean Enna is till the best En singer?

>> No.22503888

>>22502767
>If you just look at small corpos like tsunderia, prism, phase they have way better singers than hololive, and ofc nijisanji as well, and ofc independents which blow all corpos because they don't have an emphasis on streaming
You're welcome to show some examples

>> No.22504230

>>22503888
Open the link from this post >>22500643
ctrl+f: youtu

This thread will be the exact replicate of that archive. shilling and enna schizo making everyone ironically filtered her.

>> No.22504254

>>22503888
>You're welcome to show some examples
and as was prophesied by
>>22500643
>>22501004
>>22501086
the irys anti thread reveals its true purpose, to beg and shill

>> No.22504345

>>22500363
Nope, the only thing she has is being cute.

>> No.22504517

I mean, what are you basing this one, any proofs, people have different opinions it's fine, but that mean yours is the fact, in what terms do you think IRyS is bad and in what terms do you think other are better than her, don't just use the orisongs we know she can do better than that, use cover/karaoke and genuinely show me that she is bad or mid, because anyone can say anyone is better than the other

>> No.22504598

>>22503758
>IRyS was considered one of the best english language utaites for years
No one thought this, she was an average utaite at the time, I was the one that thought her voice was cute whether other people thought the same was their thoughts not mine.

>> No.22504724

>>22503758
She can imitate JP songs and sing vocaloid songs well but that's a totally different skill set to making interesting original songs

>> No.22504765

>>22500363
Her personality is cute but her model looks like a goblin. She would be better off as a normal streamer with a way less scuffed model.

>> No.22504834

>>22504517
For both covers and karaoke why would you not watch Suisei, Towa, Kanata, or Watame instead?

>> No.22504867

>>22500317
your opinion sucks

>> No.22504868

>>22504834
For karaokes the only one that's arguably as good as IRyS is Suisei

>> No.22504871

>>22500480
Honestly it's grown on me, and I say this as someone who was really put off by it when it was first revealed.

>> No.22504894

>>22504834
What do mean I love IRyS' karaokes

>> No.22504966

>>22504598
>no one thought this
Ogey
You are wrong

>> No.22505010

>>22504868
Even picking a random song Gura is better, much less the stronger JP singers.

>> No.22505189

>>22505010
Get out of here cumbud

>> No.22505322

I think IRyS is genuinely good, and her voice and way of singing really works well with poppy songs, I don't know how to explain it but I do think her singing is great even though she has never had vocal coaching

>> No.22505402

>>22505322
She would improve so much from a few sessions with a good coach but she doesn't the drive for it

>> No.22505457

>>22505402
Doesn't have*

>> No.22505487

>>22503758
???? No way. Maybe the best to weebs. She's not even on the level of talent show singers. Having a viral video or two doesn't suddenly make you an amazing singers, it just means you are good at singing a particular song. 1 hit wonders and fotm singers happen because they don't have the voice or they don't have the backing or intangibles to make it.

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>>22505487
Ogey

>> No.22505726

>>22503888
Sorry I am not a shill that's gonna make holo haters troll innocent people, just check their talents that are known for singing and you'll notice right away how superior they are. Someone shilled Amiya from tsunderia earlier and I was going in expecting her to be average but after 4 songs I realized she really is just that good and better than my chuuba, but I know holo fans are not objective and don't give a fuck about quality or skill and probably listen to one song and declare her average and do that to every recommendation.

>> No.22505729

genuine question, do people really think Enna is worse than IRyS??

>> No.22505822

>>22505729
Only delusional people. Some irys fans think she is better than Mumei, Gura, and Risu.

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>>22505729
yes i do, and I am tired of pretending she isnt

>> No.22506001

>>22505729
Enna's vocal control is a lot better. You can tell from only a few bars.

>> No.22506137

>>22506001
more powerful voice !=. more vocal control

>> No.22506147

All IRyS songs are the same.

>> No.22506214

>>22506147
alright we have someone who has not heard IRyS

>> No.22506277

>>22506137
But IRyS barley has any power to her voice. Even Gura has more power in her voice

>> No.22506279

>>22505487
You just made the worst post in the history of /vt/. Congrats!

>> No.22506292

>>22506137
You can tell from how steady the pitch is. Enna is up there with Risu. Irys becomes unsteady even with minor pitch changes.

>> No.22506338

>>22500317
Her singing is above average. The song writing sets her back.

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>>22506292
>>22506277
Are we listening to the same singer anon
Irys becomes unsteady even with minor pitch changes.
This guy has to be joking

>> No.22506455

>>22505999
lol, based

>> No.22506533

>>22506376
>Irys becomes unsteady even with minor pitch changes
Are you listening to the same IRyS

>> No.22506541

>>22506376
He is the Enna schizo troll and he is an idiot. The best thing to do is let him know how Enna's voice breaks when she tries to go too high or low. She doesn't have the skill or control to do it.

>> No.22506643

Honestly, I think the problem is is that IRy's music sounds nearly all the same. I won't even lie, there seems to be no variation between a lot of songs many of the Idols release, they literally sound all the same, and if you are in a company of like 70 different idols that are shittin out new idol groups every 6 months who at a rate of once every month are making a new song that sounds EXACTLY the same, how the fuck are you suppose to make yourself distinct?

I bet there is a market for English lyrics, but IRys is not utilizing her potential.

>> No.22506671

>>22506376
Go compare their covers of God knows. If you can't tell the difference you might want to visit an ear doctor.

>> No.22506698

>>22506376
>>22506533
Here
https://youtu.be/ZXFkDXaJ234
https://youtu.be/Fc-NH2jrO6s
https://youtu.be/irYs9OAA_Ws
https://youtu.be/fGS5vU0VkJw
https://youtu.be/HSNi43PZg-Q
https://youtu.be/8pIaRU3B-Xg
https://youtu.be/ck3Cw0qMEL0

>> No.22506746

>>22506671
anon i agree with you that IRyS is better. I forgot to highlight that point
>Irys becomes unsteady even with minor pitch changes.
like this.

>> No.22506753

>>22502767
This guy only watch Holo EN and thinks that all of Hololive are the same.

>> No.22506763

>>22506643
>I bet there is a market for English lyrics, but IRys is not utilizing her potential.
Because IRyS can't write her own lyrics and Cover doesn't have any English songwriters not named Calliope Mori.

>> No.22506771

>>22506698
Enna shill need go get the rope, you can shill your dogshit vtuber without shitting on other btw. in case you don't know.

>> No.22506862

>>22506643
I suggest you to listen to her Journey album.
4 songs are very different from what she generally releases and in all honesty, Sink again Rise again is my fav Holo En song

>> No.22506923

>>22506643
What idol groups are you talking about. This is hololive. A whole gen don't even produce 1 song as a unit on a regular basis. And tell me what others Hololive is song that sounds the same as Caesura of Despair and Here comes hope. You also talk as if she has any control over her own EP when they are made for her and she is just there to sing them.

>> No.22506925

>>22506698
Yes the typical Enna fan

>> No.22507027
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I just think she needs collabs or cover songs. It's been almost a year and she has yet to do anything with anyone and she lives in virtual Japan.

>> No.22507165

>>22505729
Yes.
Here's my reaction to them singing the same song
Irys : she has forward placement, stable but not full on her lower range, pharyngeal resonance on her higher notes. I don't remember her sounding this idk how to put it, she was softer back then.

Enna : she has neutral placement, wobbly and not stable on her lower range, falsetto and head dominant voice on her high notes. I don't remember her sounding like this, the last time I heard her sing, her high notes were very awful and grating. I'm glad she opted for head dominant voice instead.

Irys is better technically but her forward placement may be an acquired taste for some people, however it's very common among japanese singers.

>>21902944
My take:
Irys voice is higher pitched and more hollow but somehow she's better at low notes than Enna who have a fuller, deeper voice than her

>> No.22507169

>>22506279
Irys, Gura, and Suisei fans are so delusional I swear. If you can't accept facts, I don't know what to say. Singing skill isn't subjective, you can appreciate and like their voice the best, doesn't mean they are the best singers.

>> No.22507196

>>22506746
You might need both an ear doctor and a brain doctor. But results also do show in Irys's cover numbers.

I think she is pretty decent as a streamer though. Shame about her model.

Also it's pretty funny she doesn't have a playlist for her MVs. Even she must not like them.

>> No.22507210

>>22507027
This is probably it. She's been doing a lot of collab gaming streams but not singing streams or covers. Her voice can fit so many Hololive girls too. She's quite shy and is always scared to initiate. She was stuttering when she called into Azki's totsu the other day.

>> No.22507214

>>22506862
I think Journey is a good EP overall but even if you get over the ESL lyrics she's not that good at selling the emotional climaxes of the songs. There's no moment that leaves you speechless whenever she sings.

>> No.22507302

>>22507196
It's on her homepage retard https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpBqtLy3mHw07nf_D8u-g6a3_MdLWVdIc

>> No.22507327

>>22507196
Numberfag I swear, by this logic Calliope Mori is the number 1 singer and rapper in vtubing

>> No.22507385

>>22507302
>All of her covers get mogged by Moona and Risu
Is this your vsinger oshi?

>> No.22507393

If we used numbers vox is the best singers in vtubing. Mori and vox best singers case closed guys!

>> No.22507408

>>22507169
>I don't know what to say. Singing skill isn't subjective
Ughh yes. Michael Jackson and Ed Sheeran are comparable to one another even though they sing songs from different genre.
The same way an idol like IRyS who actually sounds like a disney princess is directly comparable to Enna

>> No.22507430

>>22507165
My comments was in this thread : >>22500643
Scroll down to see it

>> No.22507487

>>22507210
That's what managers are for. To initiate some sort of collaboration between talents to produce stuff. She shouldn't do it all by herself.

>> No.22507496

>>22507196
Anon you actually braindead if you think this
https://youtu.be/KROlg85PTV0 is better than this
https://youtu.be/tDytEQRR9vs

>> No.22507596

>>22507408
Actually yes if you break down their skills you can compare them to eachother excluding style and background. It's like when you compare 2 players in sports. With enough analysis you come up with a definitive answer as to who is better even though they have different strengths and weaknesses. but of course fanatics will disagree with the analysis because they're, well, fans. It's no different in singing, piano playing, etc.

>> No.22507623

>>22507487
Not really. I have never heard a story from any talent in Hololive that a cover happened because their manager suggested it. Even the whole umisea thing was Marine's idea that management decided to back up. Personal endeavors like covers are their choices to make

>> No.22507789

>>22500317
I think her music is fine. It just sounds like an anime OP, but without the actual anime connection it's just kinda there.

>> No.22507827

>>22507596
>Actually yes if you break down their skills you can compare them to eachother excluding style and background. It's like when you compare 2 players in sports. With enough analysis you come up with a definitive answer as to who is better even though they have different strengths and weaknesses. but of course fanatics will disagree with the analysis because they're, well, fans. It's no different in singing, piano playing, etc.
lalalalalalalal
You dont know shit about music hence proved.

>> No.22507894

>>22507496
This is the first time I listened to her and wow she really is something. Her voice quality is divine and her technique is flawless, it makes me want to listen to her next karaoke. I'm really liking this IRyS chuuba. The first one sucks though, she should stop singing kek

>> No.22508020

>>22507894
ok i laughed. Good one anon, good one

>> No.22508359

>>22507393
does vox has a stand out Karoke or a cover/ original song to his name that is not hope in the dark?

>> No.22508489

>>22508359
no actually. His best was a Karoke with 57K Live viewers(pretty impressive ) but not really that outstanding when you compare her to Mori(74K), Suisei(80K), Chloe(90K) and Gura(100+k)

>> No.22508696

>>22508489
I mean 57k for a niji is impressive unless you are not Kuzuha. I am actually impressed. Was it that good?

>> No.22509619

>>22508696
No, he is awful, lol. Those people weren't there to hear him sing well.

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