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>> No.22380503
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>>22380497
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>> No.22380538

>>22380503
this one it is

>> No.22380552
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>39,582: Korone (Hololive)
>38,117: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>37,464: Hal (Neo Porte)
>26,110: Choco (Hololive)
>21,758: Miko (Hololive)
>20,396: Choco (Hololive)
>18,723: Calli (Hololive)
>16,619: Patra (774 Inc.)
>13,677: Selen (Nijisanji)
>11,871: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,419: Noel (Hololive)
>11,413: Ina (Hololive)
>11,377: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,360: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,195: Botan (Hololive)
>11,000: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,904: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,776: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,471: Gatchman (Indie)

>> No.22380567

>>22379811
No, Korone never had 100k+ stream

>> No.22380573

>>22379867
The only hope for homosEN is if the current hololive fanbase give them a hype wave on debut that is big enough to push them to a new audience in the algorithm, one that isn't just current hololive fans who don;t care about male chuubas. Not convinced it will happen, but that's their only path to success imo.

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>>22380552
APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,359 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu

> PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
1x: Neo Porte
1x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
4x: Aqua
2x: Okayu, Pekora
1x: Hal, Calli, Subaru, Kuzuha, Korone

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*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes:
>6627: Kobo (HololiveID)
>5641: Zeta (HololiveID)
>3791: Reine (HololiveID)
>2645: Ollie (HololiveID)
>2272: Kaela (HololiveID)
>2094: Risu (HololiveID)
>2090: Ollie (HololiveID)
>1567: Iofi (HololiveID)
>1477: Mika (Nijisanji ID)
>1297: Mythia (Indie)
>869: ZEA (Nijisanji ID)
>654: Anya (HololiveID)
>642: Nia (MAHA5)
>594: Risu (HololiveID)
>581: Bonnivier (Nijisanji ID)
>576: Risu (HololiveID)
>567: Lumi (MAHA5)
>360: Siska (Nijisanji ID)
>339: Layla (Nijisanji ID)
>225: Alia (MAHA5)
>216: Siska (Nijisanji ID)

>> No.22380664

So now that Hololive is slowly bringing Minecraft back, that means a new gen is gonna debut soon right? That's usually the game they use for new debuted gens so that fans get a feel for them on a casual gaming environment.

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*FINAL TW TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>1,187: Rumi (indie)
>1,073: Annin Miru (indie)
>867: Mizuki (Meridian Project)
>737: Annin Miru (indie)
>448: Lutralutra (Rescute)
>430: No. Fifteen (Rescute)
>328: HaiZ (Monstar)
>320: Loco Lost (indie)
>298: Amrzs (Monstar)
>263: Kamiina Haruhi (Cloud Horizon)
>223: Olda (Monstar)

>> No.22380701

>>22380589
>Apex got 5 golds out of 13
APEX SAIKYOU

>> No.22380704

Ah, peace

>> No.22380728

>>22380664
Seems a bit soon for another gen after ID and homos just had some.

>> No.22380817

I have a theory about the reason behind the recent trend of NijiEN becoming collab-heavy.
A lot of people noticed that the collab-heavy atmosphere started at around the same time that Luxiem debuted, and naturally assumed that the girls were trying to stay relevant/leech off their success/trying to get some D and many other theories - very easy to believe, shitpost, and spread rrats about.

Luxiem debut was on Dec 21. However, there's another important event that happened just a week later, which just so happened to coincide with when Luxiem was allowed to collab with the rest of NijiEN.
That would be - HoloEN auditions becoming an "always open" type of thing following their JP counterparts.

We already know that a large portion of the NijiEN talents are Holorejects, with at least Pomu, Finana and Shu having confirmed it themselves. Obviously with the permanent opening of auditions, it's always going to be tempting for the EN livers to jump ship towards an objectively better job.

My theory is that this is one of the biggest reasons for the trend of mass collabs in NijiEN. They're trying to build a group that's tight knit enough that they can force their livers to stay with them through simple peer pressure. This is also why there's a lot of NijiEN unityfags around - audience reflects the liver after all.
It will be interesting to see if this strategy works or not.

>> No.22380836

>>22380664
Next one will be EN3/EN homos and I don't see either of those coming before September

>> No.22380841

>>22380589
Shouldn't the 11th be Apex Scrims instead of custom? Iirc the official scrims started by then.

>> No.22380856

>>22380728
Kinda, I mean Stars and ID Gen 3 debuted right on top of each other, and I think myth debuted 1 month apart from Gen 5, so debut announcements have always been a bit awkward for Hololive

>> No.22380964

>>22380817
>Pomu
>Holoreject
Isn't this a rrat?

>> No.22380989

>>22380817
Shitposting aside, would holoEN even want to recycle NijiENs into their roster?

>> No.22381025

>>22380817
>peer pressured into staying
Kek while this is a fun rrat, but where would they even go if they leave NijiEN? Hololive is barred forever for them, so either Vshojo, or going indie?

>> No.22381053

>>22380856
EN debuts definitely hurt gen 5 in the short-term and while I doubt there's any correlation at all the new homos flopping so hard compared to the relative success story of ID3 isn't a great look

>> No.22381076

>>22380964
> rrat
Man I wish.

>> No.22381153

>>22381076
I might need a clip or timestamp then

>> No.22381160

>>22381025
I wonder about that, wasn't Luna originally from Niji who later went into Hololive? I don't know the reasoning behind it but at least we know that going from Niji into Holo isn't completely out of the question.

>> No.22381196

>>22381053
>new homos flopping
I still don't quite understand why some of them thought playing super debuff game like Omori and Nier Replicant is a good idea during debut month.
Well Fuma and Gamma are trying their best, at least.

>> No.22381215

>>22380989
Well Pomu and Rosemi are apparently holo - lite according to their fanbase so they should be able to fit in well.
Enna would also probably be a good candidate if she wasn't attached at the ass with Millie.
Elira is basically the nepo Queen, Nina Reimu and Finana will never get accepted.
Petra and Selen... can't tell either way.
I'd say there's definitely a danger of at least one of the four going to holo if they get accepted.
I'm definitely sure they'll all apply at the very least.

>> No.22381236

>>22380817
If they couldn't get in EN1, then they no longet have a chance on getting in future gens. Hololive will have to be looking for different niche's each pasing gen.

>> No.22381267

>>22380817
this is a pretty dumb rrat, only a couple of them might even have a slight chance at passing the auditions why would they risk everything for such a long shot

>> No.22381285

>>22381025
>Hololive is barred forever for them
why? don't sniff rrats from here too much anon, holo will accept anyone as long as they're qualified.
So if any NijiEN girl meets their standards and passes the audition, they won't have any qualms about taking her in.

>> No.22381333

>>22381160
That was way back when Hololive isn't nearly as popular as it is currently. Now they have enough brand power they can just spend the time looking for a talented 2view and saviorfag them rather than poaching talents from another corpo and risk PR disaster.

>> No.22381413

>>22381267
you can't tell me that they're not gonna apply are you?
And remember, Pomu only got rejected because she didn't have prior content creation experience (which she has now).

She's also a known idolfag, so if she clears the audition this time, there's no real scenario where she DOESN'T go through with it...

... unless she doesn't want to leave her "friends" behind, which is where all the collabs come in.

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Who will win

>> No.22381467

>>22381236
I mean... Sana got in, despite Ina already existing...
I wouldn't really be surprised if Kiara nepo'd Pomu in.

>> No.22381519

>>22381285
Kek no they won't. As this anon said >>22381333, doing that shit would be seen as poaching and at their current popularity it'd be a PR disaster.
The highest Cover will go is accepting talents from small startup company.

>> No.22381570

>>22381153
her PL talked about her audition experience, search that up on YT there should still be a clip

>> No.22381578

>>22381413
firstly pomu would never make it in, secondly why would they take the risk of nijisanji finding out they applied and potentionally causing trouble

>> No.22381670

>>22381519
hmm... well I suppose Luna is the only example we have to go on, and none of the holos ever migrated to Niji...

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Man seeing yall talk about poaching talents. I feel the big corpos are too established for it nowadays not like when Luna got in way back. I could be fucking wrong but thats how i feel about it. Like can you imagine the strangeness of a nijiEN girl just suddenly being apart of HoloEN sure new model and all but you know it was them or how the fanbases would take such a thing from both sides. I dont think itd be pretty

>> No.22381709

>>22381519
Yeah, I don't know what Kool Aid some of these anons are drinking but thinking Cover will accept someone from Nijisanji sounds like fucking cope.
Hell, even taking in Luna already generated some negative buzz, and that was before they exploded in popularity.

>> No.22381750

>>22381413
Even if they were exceptional talents (which they are not), it wouldn't be worth the aggravation to Hololive.

>> No.22381757

>>22381669
I guess the effect isn't as strong when it's small corpos.
It'd definitely be interesting to see it happen though, especially if it's some Niji 3view who no one remembers the name of.

>> No.22381805

>>22381413
I haven't seen their contracts obviously but I'm 1000% sure there's a clause in there that would block them from applying to Hololive at very least during their Niji career and very likely for a period after as well

>> No.22381826

>>22381750
>exceptional talents
>council

>> No.22381850

>>22381826
and here comes the real agenda

>> No.22381857

>>22381669
This is my thinking too, I don't think they would want to risk the potential baggage that high-profile poaching could bring.
I'm also not convinced it would be a good recipe for success. They're always going to be looking for new Guras and Pekoras, and it's unlikely that a recycled 2nd tier corpo would ever become massive just because their brand changed.

>> No.22381876

>>22381709
Luna had already quit Niji for what, 6 months or so by the time she debuted? A situation like that wouldn't be impossible but it would be impossible for any talent to immediately jump ship

>> No.22381888

>>22381826
>council lives this rent free in this anons head
He was talking about poaching aspect retard that even exceptional talents would be hard if not impossible task to poach safely without causing a ruckus from another big corp

>> No.22381931

>>22381570
I can't find it, give me keywords or a link

>> No.22381935

>>22381413
If they didnt hire her back then they wouldnt hire her now, especially because then she would be something called a known quantity. Basically the only people who would get excited about the possibility of pomu in holo is just the current pomufans and noone else. And that doesnt sound like a good business.

>> No.22381951

>>22381805
how would a non competition clause even work with a vtuber though? the company owns the character design rights but they can't copyright their talents' voices.
And non competing clauses in the entertainment industry is black company territory imo since it forces company loyalty and a vtuber/streamer can't really change their field of work.

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Here is a slightly different cross section of the usual ranking of median of peak CCV (for April so far)
> Re:Act vs. Vsen vs. VERSEn

Five comments
1) Not only Suisei's vsen pet inclined all the way to the 400+ range but Soumi Seira followed her right up
2) All Vsen boys are 2 views
3) All VERSEn are 2 views
4) Re:Act has both the highest ranked and the lowest ranked
5) Out of the the top 5, 2 are VSen

Vsen still didn't get to the point they can outrank Re:Act but both have girls that outrank VERSEn by a huge margin, despite having girls and boys being outranked by them as well

>> No.22381973
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*FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*
and all that

> 13,707 Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
> 12,284 ( 8,437 non-raid) Nyanners (EN VShojo)
> 9,368 VIichan (KR Isegye Idol)
> 9,073 Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 8,517 Chihiro (JP Nijisanji)
> 8,012 Mysta Rias (EN Nijisanji)
> 8,004 Shoto (EN Indy)
> 6,402 Snuffy (EN Indy)
> 5,460 zrush (CN Indy)
> 5,225 Shylily (EN Indy)
> 4,833 ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)
> 4,744 im_duck_o3o (KR Indy)
> 4,691 ( 1,407 non-raid) LordAethelstan (EN Indy)
> 4,535 maoruya (KR Indy)
> 4,204 Zentreya (EN VShojo)
> 4,030 ( 3,188 non-raid) Natsumiii (EN Indy)
> 3,165 ( 2,663 non-raid) Momo (EN VSW)
> 3,052 ( 1,407 double raid) DyaRikku (EN Vyugen)
> 2,852 MurderCrumpet (EN Indy)
> 2,811 111roentgenium (KR Parable)
> 2,458 ( 1,035 non-raid) Limes (EN Vinesauce)
> 2,416 Kenji (EN Indy)
> 2,404 Saruei (EN Indy)
> 2,372 OkCode (EN Indy)
> 2,361 ( 1,316 non-raid) Shibuya Hal (JP Neo-Porte)
> 2,167 ash (EN Indy)
> 2,084 Chunyang (KR Parable)
> 1,944 girldm (EN Indy)
> 1,922 cherrypach (KR Indy)
> 1,692 RakkunVT (SP OWOZU)
> 1,628 Emikukis (EN Indy)
> 1,600 Jack (KR Indy)
> 1,572 Rainhoe (EN Indy)
> 1,184 radiyu (KR Indy)
> 1,154 rh_ryu (KR Revolution ENT)
> 1,138 Suki (GR Indy)
> 1,130 Snow Hite (KR Indy)
> 1,062 HalO_Sweety (EN Indy)
> 1,017 SquChan (EN Indy)

After 10 days, the trend is pretty clear, at least for this month.
Isegye dominates - helps that they rotate with 2-4 streaming per day. Keeps the audience and avoids heavy overlap.
VShoujo is streaming a lot less, but they can still get top 3 placement. Usually Ironmouse, usually with a raid.
Lilly, Snuffy and Shoto are the strongest EN indies, last still being on a strong incline sine he's basically unchallenged on Twitch for his type of content.
The most interesting parts end up being the non-regulars/non-twitch streamers, like today with Chihiro and Mysta being towards the top.

>> No.22381977

>>22379811
>>22380567
Korone numbers hype was always a bit overblown by EOP tourists, once they disappeared she was always going to recline (naturally)

>> No.22381999

>>22381805
That would be an illegal contract. You cannot forbid an employee from applying to a competitor. Do not compete clauses usually exist when there’s a risk of IP theft.

>> No.22382007

>>22381805
>sure there's a clause in there that would block them from applying to Hololive at very least during their Niji career
Didn't a girl from one of the smaller companies get unceremoniously fired for even talking with the NijiEN girls about considering applying to their branch?

>> No.22382010

>>22381876
Yeah well that was more or less the time needed between being accepted and debut, where they do their preparation. Reminder that HoloX took almost a year before they finally debuted.

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5111 > 4751

>> No.22382086

>>22381959
Kyo is still in hiatus?

>> No.22382100

>>22382010
Sometimes I wonder what the long ass onboarding process is even for

>> No.22382107

>>22381931
like I said Pomu's PL
or check the archives, it's been brought up a million times

>> No.22382139

>>22382100
its to prevent Aloe from happening, of course Aloe still happened

>> No.22382163

>>22382100
They need to train some of the thot out of them.

>> No.22382209

>>22382007
WACTOR?

>> No.22382249

>>22382100
I know holoEN talked about knowing eachother as early as July at least. I imagine it might have to do with building very basic etiquette expected of holos and other things such as calling each other by holo names more comfortably

>> No.22382254

>>22381888
I guess Pomu is not so special after all. Dunno why her fans hype her up so much then.

>> No.22382281

>>22381973
Hi anon quick question, how do you filter these because I know at least one chuuba who got 2k today but isn't here?

>> No.22382287

>>22380817
So Niji is even more of a crab bucket now lol

>> No.22382314

>>22382254
meant for >>22381935

>> No.22382337

>>22382287
Because of one spergs' baseless ramblings?

>> No.22382363

>>22382010
>HoloX took almost a year before they finally debuted
Source? Because Chloe and Koyo's PLs both graduated in August

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>>22382007
She was on track to be their next star too :(

>> No.22382397

>>22381519
Why do you guys assume Cover cares about something this minor?

>> No.22382415

Reading the first half of this thread good fucking lord. I am so glad nobody with a brain takes this thread seriously.

>> No.22382454

>>22382281
Tracking manually since there isn't any consistent way to filter all of them. Most don't even use the vtuber tag
i check Twitch every now and then to see if anyone new shows up and sometimes anons name them.
So say who it was and i'll add them.

>> No.22382461

>>22382363
Anon, they didn't have to immediately graduate the moment they got accepted. They weren't being drafted into a war, you know.

>> No.22382485

>>22382363
didn't ame stream up until a month before myth debuted

>> No.22382490

>>22382100
getting used to their names and each other I'd think. Canaan or Michael cat fucking up and calling themselves by their chuuba names are minor yabs, but a holo talent accidentally letting out their or their colleagues' real name will be a pretty major yab imo.
I'm guessing the first 2 months will be like the group discussion part of an interview, and anyone that has issues working with the rest will be replaced and it continues until they're all ready.

>> No.22382497

>>22382415
Theres like a handful of posts i consider bad in this thread mostly the one dudes muh collab to form a unity in niji shitpost.

>> No.22382519

>>22382461
Okay so where's the source for it being nearly a year?

>> No.22382521

>>22382397
>minor
Holy fucking shit, you think poaching is a small matter?

>> No.22382554

>>22382485
According to twitchtracker she literally streamed 8 days before debuting as Amelia

>> No.22382593

>>22380573
It depends who they hire and what kind of expectations they might have set, if their target for this project is some singers/artists doing this Vtuber shit part time pretty much to shill their stuff through doxfags then numbers are not all that important and they shouldn't cause too much controversy either.
I imagine any dude with ambitions to be a full time husbando will try their luck in niji EN even if we see them already running low on fujos with noctux. I wonder how well the girls from mixed-gender wave will do btw when they're expected to collab with dudes all the time.

>> No.22382605

>>22382519
Do your archive reps. I'm on my phone and don't have the note handy right now.

>> No.22382612

>>22382461
Excuse me sir, but this is an all out war

>> No.22382630

>>22382454
https://www.twitch.tv/kspksp

>> No.22382673

>>22382363
>>22382485
could be that the first few "group rounds" didn't go well and they were called as backups.
This might also explain why HoloX is full of nepo hires. They're the first holo gen to debut after the big boom, so I'm sure there were a bunch of talented girls who couldn't clear the hurdle of working with each other and so Cover had to dig into references.

>> No.22382736

>>22382521
It is, shit happens in every business out there, nijisanji and hololive are still doing it too

>> No.22382828

>>22381053
are they're flopping by Stars standards though? Afaik they had above 10k audience for debut and are all in 40-50K range sub wise, that's about what you would expect and I think not far from lazulight numbers at the start.

>> No.22382842

toko 10k get
these morning streams are definitely giving her a big boost

>> No.22382873

Toko gets her obligatory 10k, she's killing it in these morning streams right now

>> No.22382875

>>22382485
>>22382554
kronii beats her by streaming 3 days before debut, with council having been announced already. she even mentioned an "hiatus" on that stream.

>> No.22382887

>>22382736
NTA, but other than Luna, who else did they poach from each other? Because we're discussing about Hololive and Nijisanji here.

>> No.22383018

>>22382736
Unilever don't get spammed and stalked by seething Procter & Gamble fans if they poach a regional director of product development.

>> No.22383039

>>22382887
>from each other
Huh? Noone I can think of
Smaller corpos though? A whole lot

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>>22382828
>are they're flopping by Stars standards
yes lol, this is two weeks after debut

>> No.22383204

>>22381215
Rosemi is the only one that would conceivably take a shot at Holo EN, both because she's proven to be am ambitious career-hopper and because she's not heavily tied to anyone in Niji EN

Elira- 1/3rd of the people are her friends she basically runs the branch and would completely fuck everyone over by leaving.
Pomu- 2nd most likely after Rosemi, but friends with Elira and some of the guys, and unlikely to jump as long as she's doing well enough not to have to go back to her job
Finana- her content would not work in Hololive
Rosemi-See Above
Selen-Streaming style depends heavily on outside collabs and very few Holos plays Apex, much less EN speaking ones
Petra-No reason Hololive would even call her back even if she did apply
Enna-Tied to Millie and has something on a CN fanbase which would evaporate if she joined
Millie-Tied to Enna and probably too ESL/heavy accent to get an EN spot
Nina- No
Reimu- Wouldn't get a call back
Males- Maybe for Holostars but it would be a downgrade for them so why would anyone?

I'd give it a 10% chance of ever happening. Rosemi isn't exactly an amazing streamer and they would be better served trying to their luck with 5 new people. If Pomu starts to become unhappy or her viewers go down I would raise the possibility, since she's proven to be a good streamer and having Kiara on the inside supporting her helps.

>> No.22383222

>>22382828
Gamma and Fuma perform ok. But Uyu and Rio are currently on bottom in ccv performance.

>> No.22383272

>>22380989
After collabing with males so much it might be pretty awkward, which goes back to that anon's conspiracy theory.

>> No.22383286

>>22381951
It wouldn't, you can't put a noncompete on someone not to practice their trade at all.

>> No.22383296

Since superstar Fauna is streaming right now, here’s a neat stat to share:
Excluding superchat readings, Fauna has failed to hit 7k in only 2 streams over the course of the entire month, of which one was a collab, with an ID no less. It even extends further into the next month until she once again fails to hit 7k, which was AGAIN a collab with an ID.

She really has become incredibly consistent

>> No.22383351

>>22382007
How did they find that out?

>> No.22383421

>mel is back to her usual numbers
just like I said, all of you hyping her numbers, during the small streaming marathon she had, are just delusional, it's Mel we're talking about here

>> No.22383477

>>22382490
The reaper already did it, more than once, because she tends to refer to herself in 3rd person for whatever reason. They just edit the VOD. It would be a bigger yab if someone who was super paranoid did it, or had it done to then, rather than someone with a personal twitter they still use with their name on it.

>> No.22383577

>>22383296
Just shows what a regular start time and being a good conversationalist can do. She is really on a nice incline.

>> No.22383578

>>22383296
I call her Ina Jr cuz she kind of has the same style. Consistent streaming in the exact same timezone for the most part.

>> No.22383582

>>22383477
Didn't Gura do it to Ame too a while back?

>> No.22383632

>>22383582
Ame triggered her. Not her fault for countering.

>> No.22383660

>>22382490
>but a holo talent accidentally letting out their or their colleagues' real name will be a pretty major yab imo.
funny thing, this happened with shion and laplus

>> No.22383693

>>22380817
Rather than peer pressure I would say it's about building their audience as part of a group so they always come as a package deal with the rest of niji EN.

>> No.22383712

>>22383421
Mel's a good girl so I hate saying it but she just... isn't a good streamer at all. I keep trying to watch and enjoy her but there's always so much dead air and right now the BGM is so loud I can barely hear her at times

>> No.22383723

Fauna wanna play Deathstranding, that might affect her consistency lol. But if anyone in EN can get numbers from it, it think its her or Ina.

>> No.22383736

>>22383204
Early Rosemi was pretty good though. Reminded me of an Ame-lite, but she's checked out. She doesn't even get a consistent split anymore since most rosebuds either sudoku'd, are trying to weather the storm, or just moved on. Pomu, on the other hand, I'll never get why people hype her up so much. She's not bad but she's not great either. She's average to above average at best. Truthfully, as much as councilschizo and most of /vt/ shits on them, a motivated council is without a doubt better than every girl from NijiEN and this is coming from someone who thinks Bae is the least interesting EN and is actually below Sana when that dumb aussie actually bothers to stream.

>> No.22383794

>>22383660
And that was Shion fucking up not the newbie, this brat...

>> No.22383798

>>22380650
Damn people real pedo out here

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>>22383582

>> No.22383815

>>22382593
HoloEN seems to be much easier to get an interview with than NijiEN for men based on audition stories. Could just be Niji rejects.

>> No.22383822

>>22383712
That's what happens when you hire a lewd ASMRist and then they can't do lewd ASMR anymore. She's never been forced to really get good because she's been able to make a living with her other stuff and basically just get carried by the brand for a decent floor.

>> No.22383850

>>22383736
they overhype them to force the comparison and take shots at holoen

>> No.22383855
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>>22383798
Yes

>> No.22383894

>>22381857
I think you confuse management with /#/

>> No.22383964

>>22383736
Sana's an awful streamer, at least half the girls in Niji EN are better than her and quite possibly most of them outside of maybe Petra and Riemu. In the end where you rank them comes down to mostly personal preference but Sana just isn't engaging or entertaining for many people and her numbers bear that out.

>> No.22383967

>>22383815
lets be real if they are worse than the nijien males they might as well just scrap the project before it even starts

>> No.22383974

>>22383070
why join and then actively debuff yourself? i really don't get it

>> No.22384012

>>22383894
I think you confuse management with redditors. You really think they aren't looking for new chuubas that can pull numbers?

>> No.22384030

>>22383815
Hololive probably has more staff to do the interviews so they can go for more longshots but yes I imagine they also got less applications, or at least ones that they didn't just immediately dumpster (people from here, people who can barely speak English ect).

>> No.22384134

>>22383964
Anon... if you're gonna use numbers for your argument, please be aware that to this day even after the boost that Luxiem gave them (and yes they did get a boost if only from some deranged fujos who are using them as a way to get more of the boys) no girl from NijiEN has yet to overthrow Sana in terms of CCV. Selen has come the closest and despite the dumb aussie not streaming for over a month which should've killed her audience. She still consistently beats the purple dragon.

>> No.22384164

>>22383039
Then why did you suddenly butt into their discussion when the topic is specifically about those two corpos?

>> No.22384246

>>22384134
Yeah because she's in Hololive, not because she's a better streamer. if you swapped her to Nijisanji EN she'd be getting like 500-1100 or something like that. She's more or less the floor.

>> No.22384268

>>22383723
She wants to play a lot of things and never gets around to it so eh

>> No.22384309

>>22381857
Debuting 5 Guras or 5 Pekoras in one gen could lead to "too many cooks in the kitchen," which is a bad move. You need people who don't mind playing the supporting characters, and best if they have years of experience with some degrees of success.

>> No.22384311

>>22383964
Sana used to do multi-hour art streams back when she streamed on Twitch. The fact that she ditched the content that probably got her hired is crazy to me.

>> No.22384328

off topic bus mafu2 IS a guy right? I just listened to his bocca della verità cover and I swear that was a girl singing

>> No.22384352

>>22383204
Yeah well that bridge is already burned when she joined Nijisanji.

>> No.22384438

>>22384311
Sana bamboozled Cover's scouts.

>> No.22384451

>>22384164
Because it's still nothing that would really be anything big?

>> No.22384496

>>22384134
Muh creative freedom is more important to Nijiniggers anyway, not CCV.

>> No.22384499

>>22384246
If Sana transfers to Nijisanji, she'd be the most talented member there considering all of her accomplishments.

>> No.22384508

milord gold
>milord gold
milord gold
>milord gold
milord gold
>milord gold

>> No.22384563

>>22384311
It's really weird, i heard she has done some as member only? never had a membership to her so not sure if thats right.

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8747 > 8128

>> No.22384593

>>22384451
>it's nothing big
Oh you sweet summer child.

>> No.22384613

Fauna actually losing viewers to Nene lol

>> No.22384617

>>22384246
Anon... being in Hololive doesn't give you an auto win. Selen, if I remember, outranks at least 2 JP holos. And let me again remind you that Sana did not stream for weeks. We didn't even get updates and until recently she didn't even bother staying in touch with the fanbase via twitter or anything. Any buff from Holo that she could have gotten should've already died by now. The numbers your seeing should be the absolute rock bottom floor that a HoloEN can get at this point. The fact that Selen still can't beat her median is both a testament to how good Sana is in keeping a good number of the Holo audience entertained despite the long hiatus and how weak Selen is that she still can't beat the runt of EN when Luca, Mysta, and Vox can do so consistently.

>> No.22384639

>>22384309
Sure, but you're never going to get 5 pekoras or 5 guras in one gen. You're lucky to get 1, and if you give up one of your spots to a guaranteed mediocre pick you're reducing the odds even further.
That aside, I don't really agree that you need "supporting" characters in a gen in terms of success, you just need a range of personalities. Look at third gen, does anyone think they would have been less successful if flare had actually been another standout?

>> No.22384642

>>22384563
She drew twice, once on screen and another off screen.
She's pretty silent while drawing.

>> No.22384647

>>22384565
>Combined CCV
And this is why we can't take Nijiniggers seriously.

>> No.22384649

>>22384593
Nijifags are already harassing hololive as much as they can and noone else would care

>> No.22384700

>>22384565
Luca getting debuffed by those pointless holes

>> No.22384711

>>22384649
Oh you sweet summer child.

>> No.22384716

>>22384499
She's an accomplished artist, that doesn't automatically make her a good streamer, and seeing as she barely streams art content, not particularly relevant to anything. People who are minor league illustrators (Mumei, Mori), Deviantart tier hobbyists (Iofi, Kiara) and people who can barely draw (Ollie) have all done more art streams than her.

>> No.22384736

>>22384647
But Fauna is mogging the combined collab CCV total regardless, Anon.

>> No.22384795

>>22384647
Do you see Nijiniggers hiding in your closet when you turn out the lights at night?

>> No.22384831

/#/ is declining.

>> No.22384844

>>22384716
Can't blame her because of her bad back. Still it doesn't change the fact that she'd be the most talented if she transfers to Nijisanji and it usually follows that the most talented people tend to get the most fans.

>> No.22384862

>>22384352
Possibly, if Pomu somehow starts souring relationships with some members or feels like she's being forced to join things she's not happy with, she might.... MIGHTA try for Hololive, and in the scenario that she did make it in, I'm pretty sure a large Hololive fanbase would accept her into the group, specially the KFP employee's.

But once again, I can only see it happening as a slow process where both Nijifans and HoloFans unironically think that Pomu wants out based on things not working out with other genmates.

>> No.22384876

>>22384639
How does a range of personalities differ from character types and roles?
You are just arguing for the sake of arguing at this rate.

>> No.22384905

I'm honestly impressed by Fauna's consistency. Her floor I think is now a solid 7k and the only way it goes lower than that would be if she streamed the most debuffest games available or SC readings. I have no idea why Bae couldn't keep her floor from february but thems the breaks I guess.

>> No.22384921

>>22384617
I think you just have some trouble grasping some fundamental concepts or you're trolling/arguing in bad faith. Either way I have better stuff to do.

>> No.22384924

>>22384565
Nijisanji has really declined a lot.
A huge collab of them and it couldn't even beat a single stream of a Holo mem.

>> No.22384954

>>22384862
Maybe in a couple years when there are 60+ NijiEN members.

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>>22384831
hey man

>> No.22384972

>>22384905
Her floor is more likely to be 6k, she overlapped with Ina yesterday and was around that until Ina stopped.

>> No.22385019

>>22384924
They're tied if you combine all the numbers together, the power of friendship and all that

>> No.22385020

>>22384905
Fauna doesn't plug in any homo in her stream.

>> No.22385033

>>22384954
>Maybe in a couple years when there are 60+ NijiEN members.
So next year?

>> No.22385060

>>22384921
You're the one who argued using numbers anon, not me. I would've been fine with both of us agreeing that's it's just subjective taste, although we then go back to where we started, that Sana's content still technically draws more people in then Selen's

>> No.22385066

>>22384905
>I have no idea why Bae couldn't keep her floor
Probably because of her inconsistent streaming times and the fact that she streams late at night for most NA audiences most of the time.

>> No.22385118

>>22384905
It's pretty simple, Fauna streams in a consistent spot, close to NA primetime, but before she would get completely swalled up by overlap. Ame's old spot, from when Ame streamed outside of the dead of night. Bae streams...whenever. For NA people it could be primetime, the middle of the night, early in the morning with the JPs, or early afternoon.

>> No.22385137

>>22385019
Preferring quantity over quality is just a matter of approach.
Not saying it's a bad thing.

>> No.22385241

>>22384924
I mean Selen got 13k last night. A few months ago a female getting that outside of debut would be inconceivable, even for a birthday stream with literally everyone else attending. They now have a higher ceiling for big stuff but they collab so often that just a regular collab isn't an event, not even a minor one, is just daily grind streaming.

>> No.22385277

If Fauna has a 6-7k floor, what's Mumei's?

>> No.22385308

>>22385277
With no overlap? Probably like 8k.

>> No.22385343

>>22385241
Wasn't that stream a celebration/milestone stream?
I didn't watch it but I hear people here said it was a collab. Not sure of this tho.

>> No.22385362

You can tell no one in this thread watches Pomu or Rosemi if you think they'd be a good fit for Hololive.

>> No.22385409

>>22385241
A few months ago, a less popular girl got 11k CCV. Geeting +2k shouldn't be that difficult.

>> No.22385415

>>22385343
No and no.

>> No.22385429

>>22384905
Because streaming everyday for a month then immediately taking a break isn't actually being consistent.

>> No.22385448

Is Aqua streaming her scrims POV today? Because if she's not it is very possible Vox can get the big boy gold...

>> No.22385457

>>22385362
Pre-Luxiem Pomu would've been a good fit. She refused to talk about H stuff with Finana on her first member stream if I recall.

>> No.22385464

>>22385343
No. I think it was a first time English unarchived karaoke though.

>> No.22385494

>>22384921
>arguing in bad faith
Except nothing he said was wrong. You're just a salty faggot who can't admit you lost an argument.

>> No.22385522

>>22384905
>I have no idea why Bae couldn't keep her floor from february but thems the breaks I guess.

Plays games she can't carry
Not as interesting zatsu
Her february was collabs, gimmick streams, and empty time slots so she got a bunch of tourists who couldn't keep them
Immediately went on a week break, then started cancelling streams left and right.

>> No.22385525

>>22385448
She's supposed too, but it doesn't look like she will based on the results of the scrims.

>> No.22385527

>>22385457
They pretty much just dropped the act of trying to be Hololive-lite the moment the guys debut.

>> No.22385536

>>22384921
You don't make any sense, anon.

>> No.22385541

>>22382630
>doesn't use any tags
>categorizes most streams as "Just Chatting"
no wonder i never saw her

>> No.22385554

>>22385415
>>22385464
With Vox in it.
>My dictionary has fucking Vox machina registered automatically even though I never typed the name of that faggot properly
Fujos sure are scary...

>> No.22385560

>>22384565
Not going to lie but if nijisanji had the ''segregation'' the males could totally survive alone

>> No.22385563

>>22385241
>first karaoke
You people keep taking this shit as if she's now gonna keep that 13k as her floor instead of it being a buffed number.

>> No.22385581

>>22385527
And they also seem a lot happier

>> No.22385608

oh boy, it's the hourly can we talk about vox now post, didn't you fags had enough asking about a stream that wasn't even happening yesterday about 12 different times throughout the day

>> No.22385620

>>22385362
The only reason Wosemi wouldn't be a good fit is because she's too autistic to collab with others.

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>>22385277
Mumei has been pretty hot. Seems her floor for dogshit games is 5k though.

>> No.22385639

>>22385563
The post you are replying to is literally talking about a raised ceiling rather than a floor.

>> No.22385641

>>22385554
Vox wasn't in it threadwatcher. Just a picture of him as a joke for like 30 seconds

>> No.22385661

>>22385362
>/#/ is one person
This is how you sound right now, retard.

>> No.22385670

>>22385581
So this is the power of cock...

>> No.22385677

Is it the chink canadian dragoon?

>> No.22385767

So assuming that Kronii streams her Pov on the Kronii/Moona MC collab what do you all think the combined CCV will be

>> No.22385769

>>22385560
Some of the males would be doing better if they had enforced segregation

>> No.22385781

>>22384905
>Kiara is loud and ultra extrovert
>Bae is loud and ultra extrovert
>Both end up not being very popular with Bae only winning against Sana because Sana is the ultimate debuff
I'm starting to see how the EN fanbase works

>> No.22385789

>>22385581
Sex is a good way to relieve stress, scientifically proven even.

>> No.22385815

>>22385781
Kiara please just drop your stupid pride and chicken voice...

>> No.22385825

In other news, Mumei’s members karaoke frame is temporarily public and she’s getting a considerable amount of new members.

>> No.22385828

>>22385581
I'm feel sorry for their cucked fans.

>> No.22385845

>>22385789
A lot of Pomu's menhera outbursts wouldn't have happened had she had some cocks to fill her dusty holes.
Now that she got several to choose from, I imagine she's a lot happier.

>> No.22385850

Can't wait to see my milord's karaoke!!!!

>> No.22385869

>>22385825
Dunno why EN does not do that more, it is a good way to promote membership

>> No.22385870

>>22385815
The chicken voice is such a hard filter man. Her real voice is so good aswell, its fucked.

>> No.22385880

>>22385815
Never, she's gonna keep going until her vocal chord is permanently damaged and then her antis will celebrate anyway because she's forced to graduate.

>> No.22385882

>>22385362
I watch Pomu, she'd fit fine. Several of the people in Hololive aren't "good fits for Hololive" and Pomu fits in better than they do. You'd need a big outlier like Nina or Finana where their content would absolutely be smothered to not be able to adapt.

>> No.22385919

>>22385815
She's never going to drop it, in Kiara's insane mind the chicken voice is what makes her be Kiara

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Theoretically speaking if a holoEN girl debuted and was a shameless as Vox and pulled great numbers would she be as ostracized here as him

>> No.22385932

>>22385880
Her believing that hololive will die before her voice will make me laugh while crying during her graduation

>> No.22385944

>>22385409
That was Enna right? The previous high was Selen's birthday at like 9k. It's a steady increase in the ceiling.

>> No.22385952

>Gura not streaming
>Mumei mengen
>Marine MIA
>Miko mengen
>Peko rest day
>Subaru not streaming
>Aqua/Suisei not likely to stream their POV again
>Primetime slot is Azki
Holo not going to get a single slot in the tally today
Maybe one or two if theyre lucky lmao

>> No.22385976

>>22385882
>Several of the people in Hololive aren't "good fits for Hololive"

lol

>>22385944
Birthday isn't an unarchived karaoke where you have people going full FOMO because it'll disappear.

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>>22385922
No.

>> No.22385987

>>22385781
I think an extrovert like Subaru or Marine could absolutely work in EN, they're two of the most popular JPs in the west after all. The problem for the current extroverted ENs is that you need to be endearing, funny, or entertaining, not just loud.

>> No.22385992

>>22385563
Are you retarded?

>> No.22386004

>>22385882
>Several of the people in Hololive aren't "good fits for Hololive"
The very fact they got in means they fit in more than she ever would.

>> No.22386051

>>22385869
It does but it also annoys people that don't want to get paywalled from content.

>> No.22386055

>>22385870
Some anon posted her topic channel today and there's only 1 song where she dropped the "cutesy" voice she puts on and she sounds completely different.

>> No.22386067

>>22384328
He is male

>> No.22386107

>>22385922
hard to say, probably not as much but depends how big the fallout would be. if anything is likely to rile up fans is bad shit potentionally harming their oshis

>> No.22386125

>>22385952
>Primetime slot is Azki
>It's a reverse totsu
Gold time baby

>> No.22386140

>>22384613
Of course, it's an utawaku. EOP can watch those without issue.

>> No.22386174

>>22385922
Really depends, if she was vulgar in a way that is about seducing her fanbase people would love it, but like ''slutty women that loves to talk about dicks and even pushes these jokes on collabs'' people would call her out

>> No.22386188

>>22385622
She hasn't dropped below 9k since Holofes (excluding SC), I'd say that's her floor.

>> No.22386203

>>22385922
You mean like, Shylily but in Hololive? I don't think there would be as much flak as Voc, because a lot of people just inherently dislike male vtubers and don't want to interact with them in any way, even here, but there would still be a lot of people who shit talked her.

>> No.22386207

>>22385952
lmao lmao look at this retard lmao

>> No.22386208

>>22385922
I do wonder how successful Kronii would have been had she gone full on coombaiting wouls she have more subs than Kiara and Ina

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>>22386125
>AZKi gold??
AZKi gold??
>AZKi gold??
AZKi gold??
>AZKi gold??
AZKi gold??

>> No.22386261

>>22386208
Fucking yes, Just imagine if IRyS had Kronii's model

>> No.22386284

>>22385922
It really depends on what it would look like in reverse. Hardcore GFE, or Veibae style degeneracy?

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>>22385622
You’re damn right she’s pretty hot. . .

>> No.22386322

>>22386284
Probably hardcore GFE, I don't think Cover would allow Veibae style degeneracy.

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>>22385922
I've heard Mel, Choco and Noel all do blowjob asmrs before so it would probably go over just fine

>> No.22386369

>>22385952
azki gold if she calls suisei or aqua in between matches

>> No.22386395

>>22386315
sauce on that pic bro? I ggotta see who is next to her

>> No.22386398

>>22385922
No. This is a holo thread, holos are acceptable here. Just like Vox is beloved in /NijiEn/

>> No.22386403

>>22385922
Nah. Kronii wasn't her first 2 days of monetization.

>> No.22386415 [DELETED] 

>>22386315
Her boyfriend is a very lucky man.

>> No.22386422

>>22386395
https://twitter.com/crunchy_mmloni/status/1514345306884034560?s=21&t=H1UVH93JHcW2kGbEjjSI0Q
The soggyloni…

>> No.22386435

>>22386403
What, people shit on her for fucking months for "pandering to the reddit crowd"

>> No.22386442

>>22386395
https://mobile.twitter.com/CRUNCHY_MMLONI/status/1514345306884034560/photo/1

>> No.22386446

>>22385952
Azki gold would be so good.

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>>22386422
Ok I don't even like Kiara but all 5 of them are pure sex here

>> No.22386474

>>22385815
Does Kiara still get JPY SC?

>> No.22386483

>>22386188
SpongeBob is number cancer.

>> No.22386550

>>22385922
Let's see
>Streams exclusively at JP/SEA primetime despite being EN
>Lewd thumbnails everytime
>Celebrates every milestone divisible by 50k
>Coombait every single time, farming SC
>Little to no mengen
Seems like she would be a schizo-magnet for /vt/ in general.
Kiara and Kroni already got shit on for number 3 and 4 early on, unless she's a really great streamer she would probably have dedicated antis all over the board.
/#/ I feel wouldn't mind much if she does bring good numbers. Indifference at best like how rushia is treated here before her implosion, which is normal despite having really high SC and great CCV peaks

>> No.22386554

>>22386322
I mean, the green menhera was there for several years. Granted, she was never at the level of Vox whoring himself, but stalking her gachikois Twitter and secretly sending them DMs was pretty out there as far as behaviour goes.

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>>22386446
I'm prepping my Azki lewds already, even if she doesn't make Gold it's still worth

>> No.22386586

really weak day for EN, the path is free for milord to rule

>> No.22386602

>>22386435
Oh, yea, her fans got bullied out of the general that her split became the fastest oshi split.

>> No.22386606

>>22386435
Because that'd destroy the narratives of us only shitting on males, now would it?

>> No.22386660

>>22386415
Thanks, anon!

>> No.22386677

>>22386554
The thing with her is that she did most of that shit behind the scenes and not publicly.

>> No.22386713

>>22385922
I don't know if she will be hated in this board but I guarantee that she will attract schizos

>> No.22386749

>>22386586
He was going to win today anyway. I'm more worried about not having any strong Holo streaming and having to deal with shitposters spamming his global win for months in case he gets it

>> No.22386766

>>22386677
>>22386554
She was also Japanese and EOPs, who would be the most affected by some menhera GFE pusher, only thought what she was doing was a joke and wasn't actually GFE because they only really knew her through clips

>> No.22386816

>>22386677
The DMs, yes. The stalking, though? You can find her 'warning' the gachikois easily if you spent a bit of effort.

>> No.22386834

>>22386749
Anon they would be doing that even if he only won EN gold. Just ignore it or point out how he got his ass beat by some of the lesser performers in regular streams.

>> No.22386840

>>22386749
lmao if we had a debuff Gura stream today things would've been even worse, in a way the lack of streams works as an anti shitposting

>> No.22386959

I'm so sick of the Vox talk. Who do I need to contact to arrange a GTA Online collab between Vox and Miko. Those always end well for whoever is collabing with Miko.

>> No.22387120
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>>22380497
* NIJISANJI TALLY OF THE DAY *

>38.094: Kuzuha
>13.704: Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji EN)
>11.430: Ibrahim
>9.344: Yorumi Rena
>8.397: Alban Knox (Nijisanji EN)
>7.310: Hayato Kagami
>6.894: Kanae
>6.822: Sasaki Saku
>6.350: Lize Helesta
>6.182: Alban Knox (Nijisanji EN)
>5.341: Enna Alouette (Nijisanji EN)
>5.188: Fuwa Minato

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>>22386959

>> No.22387170

Primetime EST and no HoloEN streams.

>> No.22387235

>>22387170
so far is looking like an incredibly weak day for holo in general, guessing i'm gonna go catch up on other stuff for the day

>> No.22387256

>>22387170
And 7 NijiEn streamers.

>> No.22387283

>>22387256
too bad they're shit

>> No.22387328

>>22387283
the main event hasn't even begun yet.

>> No.22387356

>>22385066
Late night NA isn’t a problem on its own. However, it automatically pits her against Kronii, IRyS, and Ame while also leaving her at the mercy of Mumei’s guerrilla streams.
>>22386188
Seems like post-Christmas to Holofes might have been a slump for her usual content, because her pre-Christmas floor outside of SC readings and watchalongs was around 8k.

>> No.22387474

>>22386415
Either they broke up or she’s trying to make it look that way, and now she’s using her chat for BFE.

>> No.22387484

>>22380817
This is a complete retard narrative and it shows you don't really know shit about nijien itself.
Why can't this thread just accept stuff and stop trying to make everything about hololive?

>> No.22387496

so many people joining Mumei members, I think it's working

>> No.22387548

>>22386959
Have him play Mario Party with Mori and Ollie first. It’s called Holodeath for a reason.

>> No.22387565

>>22387484
one person... with multiple replies telling him how stupid what he said was

>> No.22387617

>>22387496
there's so little streams that I also fell for her trap

>> No.22387656

>>22387496
It’s fucking amazing. Mumei, you truly are a /numbers/gal.

>> No.22387660

>>22387474
It does seem that way. In contrast Fauna straight up just privated her twitter.

>> No.22387667

>>22380817
It's funny to see how holofags hate nijien but then make rrats about them going to hololive. Jesus christ guys be more honest at least.

>> No.22387675

It's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLOeMyfidc8

>> No.22387677

>>22385952
Kronii x Moona Minecraft Autism stream would get into the tally. Who knows it could be gold depending on how starved the EN fanbase is for Minecraft combined with Vox maybe not performing as well as people expect him to.

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>>22387496

>> No.22387765

>>22386415
Ikr? I'm jealous as fuck ngl.

>> No.22387822

>>22387677
there is no way Vox isn't getting gold, this is the biggest event for his fan base right now, he will have a floor of 20-30k, which is easy gold.

>> No.22387821

>>22387675
She's actually streaming her POV? Wow.

>> No.22387823

>>22380817
This is stupid. While some did apply before, they did because there was no option outside of hololive. Many of those you mentioned like pomu were already nijisanji fans as well.
And beyond all, they are already doing well. It's not like they are 2 view or 3 view indies anymore, they already got bigger, created communities and are fairly stable.

>> No.22387957

>>22387675
I’m impressed.

>> No.22387980

Gens 4 5 and 6 failed to produce huge hitters. Are these true silver spoon children

>> No.22388007

>>22387980
>gen 4
anon...

>> No.22388019

>>22387980
Gen 4 at least had Coco who's capable of taking gold, the rest are just disappointments.

>> No.22388023

Gen 5 schizo failed to produce quality posts. Are these true deflection posts.

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>>22387980
Incorrect + Schizo + kys + inbred + SEA blood flows through your veins

>> No.22388063

>22387980
>22388019
>32:47
>33:48
hmmm

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>>22384831
अरे दोस्त

>> No.22388074

>>22387822
I feel like his hand reveal was more important than his Unarchived for a meme number celebration. 20k-30k sounds reasonable yeah but again it's been a while since EN Minecraft and it's an autism duo with a chance of guests appearing.

>> No.22388084

>>22388023
he's mad again, I bet gen 5 mogged his oshi today

>> No.22388154

>>22388042
>gen 4, 5 and 6 have zero streamers capable of carrying gold casually while every other gen has at least one
what's so incorrect

>> No.22388173

>>22388007
>>22388019
5k median coco was not a heavy hitter

>> No.22388200

>>22388074
this is an unarchived karaoke, the FOMO factor is a buff to ccv. Hand reveal was good too, but don't be surprised if it gets beaten.

>> No.22388216

If anyone is membered to Mumei, please post the ccv if you can. I’m actually curious now.

>> No.22388266

>>22388200
I won't. I'm just of the mindset that anything can happen especially with how often Vox can fluctuate.

>> No.22388289

>>22388216
11k

>> No.22388314

>>22388216
>members ccv
for what purpose

>> No.22388338

Just pointing out, but Mumei's gained almost 150 members so far with this member's waiting room kek

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All of the English streams happening right now

>> No.22388370

>>22385952
Pekora guaranteed to join AZKi's totsu, some of the nousagis were really eager to see them both on the same stream, so AZKi will likely get a huge amount of viewers unless she gets overlapped hard by Migo with Elden ring, also Pekora will likely stream afterwards, not necessarily the continuation of Elden ring as she wants a bit of diversity in her streams but she'll most certainly stream.

>> No.22388411

>>22388365
Who cares?
Like what the fuck are you trying to do here

>> No.22388417

>>22388084
When was the last time gen 5 mogged anyone, their numbers are incredibly underwhelming compared to how much they're hyped here. Even Council outperforms them most of the time.

>> No.22388438

>>22388417
why haven't you killed yourself already

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mfw Kobo is the only one that can pull 100k vod from ID vtuber nowadays

>> No.22388502

>>22388411
stfu fag
people don't have to consult you to post

>> No.22388570

the thread managed to lose like 40 iq points in half an hour

>> No.22388593

>>22388266
fujos don't always come to game streams, but they'll flock to big events.

>> No.22388606

NijiGODS taking the special olympics gold tonight

>> No.22388617

>>22388570
>the thread managed to lose like 40 iq points in half an hour
Happens whenever the nipple enjoyers come to the thread.

>> No.22388649

>>22387496
>15 minutes delay
SHE IS MILKING THIS

>> No.22388697

>>22388216
Right now 2.3k waiting room

>> No.22388718

>>22388649
That’s just regular Moom programming.

>> No.22388755

>>22388570
Because people can point out gens that havent produced a pekora/marine, subaru or miko?

>> No.22388771

>>22388593
I get that. Main thing that made me think twice was his underperforming ASMRs lately.

>> No.22388801

>>22388755
kill yourself

>> No.22388858

>>22388755
>not including suisei
oh its you 2view niggerrina

>> No.22388863

>>22388755
Subaru and Migo took years to get to where they are now.

>> No.22388882

>>22388755
>>22388863
also including miko to "casually carry" is incredibly funny, and omiting gen 1 entirely also really funny

>> No.22388969

Roboco is streaming on twitch. Let's see what numbers she'll get.

>> No.22389023

>>22388969
Who?

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13 days of no gold making nijiniggers lose their sanity.. kek

>> No.22389103

I just noticed this, but why does every chuuba debut, holo or non holo after myth debuted, never states that gura is their inspiration? it's always mori or ina? You would think that the biggest vtuber in the world would have a huge amount of fans that would became chuubas themselves, but clearly that's not the case.

>> No.22389147

deadbraps making shit up again lmao

>> No.22389149

the most creative bait i've seen in a while

>> No.22389151

I consider gen 5 and Myth as the same gen and thus any Myth achievement is gen 5's achievement.

>> No.22389157

https://www.twitch.tv/robocosan_hololive
Roboco 3.0

>> No.22389167

>>22389103
They don't want to look like leeches and they know Gura will NEVER acknowledge them

>> No.22389209

>>22389103
No one wants to ba called a leech. You can tell Alban likes her though.

>> No.22389267

>>22389157
Is there any net benefit from streaming on Twitch for most of Hololive? This weird Twitch push Cover has gone for these past few months feels really half assed and only divides their fanbases further.

>> No.22389313

>>22389157
>still no hair/outfit physics collisions
Waiting for 4.0

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>>22389103
Same reason you don't put Dr. Seuss as your inspiration when you become a professional author. You look like a fucking clown who only knows the most surface level shit

>> No.22389363

>>22389267
Twitch let’s them farm some subs, is good for watchalongs, and is nice to have as an alternative for if/when YouTube fucks then over either short term (outages) or long term (who knows what they’ll decide to do next their numbers already heavily curated and not in vtubers favor)

>> No.22389369

>>22389267
Probably have more to do with Valo/riot permissions imo

>> No.22389375

>>22389167
>>22389209
I think it's less about being a leech and more about the fact that you can't say you like a loli in the west without getting called a pedo that needs to be canceled.

>> No.22389378

>>22389209
I feel bad for him on accidentally saying her name. You can tell he was a bit freaked about it afterwards even though its no big deal to say "Gura" instead of "Gurin".

>> No.22389405

Almost 200 new members for Mumei according to hololyzer. Sasuga owl.

>> No.22389422

>>22389405
Lex Luthor...

>> No.22389501

>>22389369
Anon, they have blanket permission for Riot games

>> No.22389522

>>22389267
Free money and for some games it has some viewer interaction

>> No.22389627

>>22389501
Twitch specific Valo bounties maybe

>> No.22389669

>>22389375
Anon Gura is still an adult girl behind the avatar (just very small), if you say ''I like Gura'' without going ''uoooooooh cunny I like her because she is small and has the perfect loli voice'' no one will give a shit

>> No.22389705

Roboco has 1.1k viewers, almost half of her normal numbers on YouTube.

>> No.22389804

>>22389705
Not bad.

>> No.22389913

>>22389705
That's probably a net positive considering how much easier it is to make money from twitch viewers than youtube viewers

>> No.22390032

>>22389669
The person behind the avatar doesn't matter, nor the reaon for liking her. If you say you like a loli looking vtuber, you're a pedo in the eyes of most people, especially outside the vtuber and anime community. Plenty of streamers have already called out fans of these vtubers.
https://youtu.be/C5lwe9_LsIw?t=56

>> No.22390119

>>22390032
Plenty male streamers say they like Gura tho?
People like Assmon and shitQc are not the majority despite how loud they voice their opinion on the internet

>> No.22390145

>>22390032
Just don't care about it. Debut, proclaim your love for Gura, then stream.

>> No.22390152

Oh god, she's literally singing the same bands as always. How the fuck do these girls live with only knowing the same 10 bands? Even within the umbrella of 'pop punk' there's hundreds of bands you could choose from.

>> No.22390186

Thread is looking peaceful again so have a fun fact
>Gura's worst VOD ever (Super Metroid, 229k) is still higher than Pomu's best stream VOD (debut, 224k).
Pomu's shorts are cover are a bit higher but none have more than 300k.

>> No.22390222

>>22390152
Who? We are watching Roboco play valorant

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>>22390186
*and
Jesas

>> No.22390267

>>22390032
Sykkuno says all the time that he likes Gura and he never got called a pedo, Forsen's chat's tease him about Gura because she mentioned him once but it never becomes pedo jokes, don't let Asmongold projection about lolis define the opinion of all streamers

>> No.22390277

>>22390152
Who fucking cares, I'm here to listen to mooms, not picking her music taste.
Also, music elitist like you should get the rope. Fucking can't stand you lot.

>> No.22390294

>>22390256
Pomu is not a good singer.

>> No.22390306

>>22390152
Most people are normies and don't look to deeply in to things.

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>>22390152
>raging about a normie white girl's taste in pop punk music
Keku
Rumao

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