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22305770 No.22305770 [Reply] [Original]

>people tell me to watch vtubers outside of hololive/nijisanji
>watch some
>99.9% of them are very boring with crappy models and put no effort into their streams
They all deserve their low views. no cap fr. The only good indies are artists because for some reason a lot of artists are also interesting.

>> No.22305863

Never listen to indiefags, they make not watching hololive their entire personality and have to constantly shit on other chuubas.

>> No.22306032
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>/vt/ keeps telling me hololive is so much better than my oshi
>if they're streaming (big if), it's the same boring 3 games, they're somehow rigged worse than indies, and the "pure idol" schtick wears thin after 5 minutes
But then again you're only entertained by the number in the bottom left corner.

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>>22306032
>bottom left number below 5 digit
>close stream

>> No.22306195

>open hololive stream
>SUCKY SUCKY BBC ALL NIGHT LONG
>close hololive stream

>> No.22306204

>>22305863
>>22306032
>constantly shit on other chuubas
Like clockwork.

>> No.22306249

>The only good indies are artists because for some reason a lot of artists are also interesting.
That's because you can usually filter the bad artists just like how you can filter most bad chuubas by looking at average views.
>>22305770
Keep looking, trying to find god chuubas with <10 views is like trying to find a gem in /b/. They exist, they they often grow really fast, but if you'e lucky you can catch one live instead of looking at an archive.
t. someone who's been watching a girl who had 4 views mog people who has been at it for two years now. It's her third month. Also watched Shylily when she had ~130 CCV

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>>22306185
If you want to watch numbers, you could probably get more entertainment out of this

>> No.22306463

>>22306204
>haha all indies are shit
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE ME BACK HELP ME CORPORATION

>> No.22306483

>>22305770
2views are 2views for a reason. there are a lot of hidden gems but you have to at least start with double digits and have a lot of patience. unfortunately it's only worth it if you have time and dedication.

>> No.22306529

>>22305770
Also the fans are gatekeeping like crazy, probably why those indies will forever stay 2views

>> No.22306592

>>22305770
>criticizes bad models
>uses a gura image for the post
brainwashing at its finest

>> No.22306921

>>22306463
What the fuck are you even talking about? I just pointed out how correct the first anon was. Seething 2view indiefags mindbreak so easily kek

>> No.22306955

>>22306592
He just likes rhombuses

>> No.22307045
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22307045

If you want some absolutely great vtubers outside of Hololive and Nijisanji, allow me to give you some.

1) Amiya Aranha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh-esy3n9UY
2) Chikafuji Lisa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f22RWDv8MzU
3) Celestia Miori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ0kbrlOMIU

>> No.22307102

>>22305770
>gurashitter calling out others for their bad models and no effort

>> No.22307145

>>22306249
So you mean to say that good artists will always be successful and bad artists not?

It's a naive view of the entertainment industry. Taylor Swift isn't the most talented artist out there but because of her family's connection she can be far more successful than most singers. And what about Van Gogh? He died in poverty, but why are his works now being critically acclaimed?

There's this thing called exposure, you can be talented and entertaining but without any spotlight you can only go so far. And you can be a mediocre entertainer but with the right amount of exposure you can be more successful than people more interesting than you.

>> No.22307622

>>22307102
Do chumpedos really

>> No.22307666
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22307666

Miori has a great model

>> No.22307745

>>22305863
Almost all indiefags also watch Holo and/or Niji

>> No.22307794

>>22307145
Almost like Bad Welsh Man was right all along.

>> No.22308041

>>22307045
>Celestia
your reading reps.

>>22307666
In a few ways, yes.

>>22305770
>seething about actually having to put in some effort or think about personal taste in chuubas

(You) definitely chose the right pic.

>> No.22308334

>>22305863
I like Hololive but there are some 2views that I think would easily have over 1mil subs if they got into holo

Also i hope mori dies just wanted to add that

>> No.22308414

>>22305770
isn't the rigging in hololive absolute shit though?

>> No.22308629

>>22308414
yeah pretty much

>> No.22308704
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>>22308414
I wouldn't say being outdone by a single person with an iphone is that humiliating.

>> No.22308935
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>i watch hololive because I have higher standards

>> No.22309011

I watch hololive because my oshi is a holo.

>> No.22309022

I liked that French loli rat because she made my pp hard

>> No.22309084

>>22306032
i don't watch chuubas for their rigging

BECAUSE I HATE RIGGERS

>> No.22309173

>>22305770
>indie
only one I can recommend is the giri cooking girl, food content is always good. Stay away from those attentionwhores like Bao, Vienne, Saru and the likes

>> No.22309179

>>22306195
> open thread
> repeat shitpost from other threads
> never open thread again

> create new thread with same shitpost

>> No.22309225

>>22307045
I really like Amiya but the way she talks feels so fake. I hope I'm wrong though because her content is really everything I like to see in a stream

>> No.22309390

>>22308334
Example?

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>>22309084

>> No.22309509

>>22305770
>open indie stream
>poggers
>deez nuts
>ligma
>close stream

>> No.22309600
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>>22308334
Getting into EN will easily net you 1mil subs unless you're some sort of braindead parasite who can't even pretend to care about vtubing
pic related

>> No.22309640

>>22309390
I dunno, maybe like a car crash or something? The point is that she cease to draw living breath. The fuck more do you want?

>> No.22309803

>>22309640
>I like Hololive but there are some 2views that I think would easily have over 1mil subs if they got into holo
Example?

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>>22309803
nta but pic related

>> No.22310431

>>22309803
Oh that wasn't me. I just felt like wasting your time. Top of my head though, there's a literal 2view named Potemo who has a really good rock voice and a tomboy bearing, kind of like Rene from Sugarlyric but-- god forgive me for saying it-- less dumb, or maybe dumb in a different way. I haven't watched her in a while but I remember being very impressed by her in spite of the rough edges. Honestly it doesn't really matter who joins as long as they're even moderately personable, can take direction, and aren't Indonesian. Breaking a million subs in HoloJP or EN isn't that big a deal since Myth.

>> No.22310535

>>22305770
You have to find indies that suit your taste, it's not as simple as randomly throwing darts at a wall. It took me a while to find donut gura, too bad she doesn't stream as much anymore.

>> No.22310902

I only like chuubas if they're hololarping/heavy into keyfabe. Im not into the "streamer but with a anime avatar" flavor of vtuber that NijiEN and most twitch indies employ, because the personalities are not very interesting where I could be more efficiently be entertained by someone like XQC

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>>22309173
great taste, brother
>>22309803
watch my oshi, you fags
easily 2m in 6 mos when she's in holoen

>> No.22310968

>>22308935
Snuffy doesn't even look like that anymore.

>> No.22311020

>>22308935
What wrong with your faaaaaaaaace?

>> No.22311127

>>22309225
She used to speak in a different voice but she was heavily criticized for not using a loli-voice.

>> No.22311257

>>22305770
>Not grooming 2views
NGMI

>> No.22311369

>>22309509
>open hololive stream
>silence
>sometimes cringe joke occur
>only cares about SC
>some cares only about red SC
>low gaming skills
>loud chicken noises
>loud wigger noises
>2 hours max stream no zatsu
>1 hour cringe collab with no chemistry
>archived karaoke with the same 10 songs
>unarchived karaoke that unarchived
>oh wow we have 3D now but only loud wigger can use it
>outdated rigging
>mogged by an indie
>should I continue?

>> No.22311370

>>22310292
No way, not unless she completely changed her content. (And also learned to scream less.)
I love her dearly, but there's basically zero growth potential. She will stay a 2view forever until she quits. I just hope she's having fun.

>> No.22311418

>>22311369
Stop watching orange and pink woman.

>> No.22311532

>>22311418
>Stop watching orange woman
But she is the only one who's streaming at all.

>> No.22311647

>>22311369
>Open hololive stream
>Several hours of banter, jokes, laughing
>Ignores supas until stream is over
>Good singer
>Decent gamer
You should have chosen your oshi better.

>> No.22311734

>>22306284
80085

>> No.22311749
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22311749

https://www.youtube.com/c/KikiCh-

>> No.22311773

>>22311647
Did you made up yours?

>> No.22312119

>>22311749
God no.

>> No.22312224

>>22310292
whys this seanigger shilled everywhere

>> No.22312338

>>22311749
one day she'll be appreciated anon.

>> No.22312852

>>22311532
oh no, is like you will need to watch.. non holos

>> No.22312888

>>22311773
clearly his oshi is a holoJP
>good singer, decent gamer
probably suisei's apex scrims

>> No.22312894

>>22312852
Oh no, it's like I do it anyways

>> No.22312920

>>22311773
She exists outside of my schizo mind you can be assured of that.

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>>22305770
Vtubers are degenerate and one of the many things wrong with our fucking society.

>> No.22313987

>>22311749
Go back

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>>22307045
If they were any good you wouldn't want to post them in /vt/,
also
>EN

>> No.22319042

>>22305770
>complains about crappy models
>as someone shilling hololive

>> No.22320003

Lisa right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f22RWDv8MzU

>> No.22320360

>>22305770
>>22306032
Hololive, Nijisanji, and VOMs are the only ones that do out-of-the-box streaming, meanwhile most 2views only do GFE bullshit.
There's several great indies on the JP side, but on the EN side it's a mess.

>> No.22320521

>>22312224
>Actually plays somewhat decent games instead of trendchasing like every other copy-pasted chuuba right now
Geez I wonder why people like her

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>Be indie
>make same joke Miko did
>lose your job

>> No.22323794

/lig/ selection is pretty great. Batatvideogames, Ninaninin, Tob are all great. All do streams higher quality than holo on shoestring budgets

>> No.22324750
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>>22305770
Yes, there are a million garbage chubers. Sturgeon's law.
Let them filter themselves out and watch larger indies.

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>>22320797
imagine being a slave to sjw normiefags
what a shame, it wasn't even that offensive

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>>22324750

>> No.22324841

>>22305770
Indies have better models than Holos wtf are you talking about.

>> No.22324950

>>22305770
such is the life of EOPs

>> No.22325728

>>22324778
100% of the people who complained are guaranteed to be gray name poorfags who never supa.

>> No.22326092

>>22309390
Natori Sana

>> No.22326165

>>22305770
Watch big indies
https://youtu.be/kGwd6yYXmkE

>> No.22326449

>>22305863
I only watches indies if they are her sisters or friends of my oshi corpo chuuba

>> No.22326500

>>22324778
Lmao, the absolute state of vtweeters

>> No.22326731

>>22324778
Damn I'd probably get canceled 100 times if i was a vtuber.

>> No.22326878

>>22326731
Nah, your audience isn't on twitter, that's the reason why people make fun of vtweeters, they get upset over people who will never even watch them

>> No.22326920

what the fuck does no cap mean

>> No.22326955

>>22305770
>Find some good indie
>''hey this one is not that b-''
>*twitter drama*
>*selfies*
>*hunts other vtubers with loli models*
>*shits on the fanbase at every change they get*
>*SJW posting*
Even if you don't want to watch hololive/nijisanji go for small corpos...never ever go indie

>> No.22327040

>>22326955
see >>22324950

>> No.22327181

>>22327040
EOP?

>> No.22327205

>>22306529
It's hilarious. The gatekeeping groomers lmao

>> No.22327300

>>22308935
All that expensive tech and the racoon is still a boring as fuck leech with a horrible personality lmao

>> No.22327376

>>22326955
damn that imaginary vtuber you've conjured up in your retarded tribalfag mind sounds awful, drop her fast

>> No.22327447

>>22327376
Indie 2view spotted

>> No.22327559

>>22305770
shill the artists
not pochi, she's hololive

>> No.22327624

>>22326955
Thats your mistake looking at any en indie from twitch 98% of them are pure dogshit, even from recommended chuubas in /wvt/ you can count with two hands at best the ones that is worth to fill dead hours.
Just stick with small en corpo if you want to watch something non holo/nijis

>> No.22327775

>>22327559
All of them don't want EOPs, they want to stay with their weird but comfy circle

>> No.22328317

>>22307045
Friendly reminder that Tsunderia managers and staff post frequently in /vt/ and this is a shill post by a company that debuted m*les

>> No.22328403

>>22310292
bitch is too fucking loud

>> No.22328851

>>22328403
some of them are into that apparently, they praise the screams

>> No.22329260

>>22308935
I miss the pink Snuffy a lot, except for the obnoxious regulars she had during those times

>> No.22330294
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22330294

Please watch Sara Nagare from Prism Project

>> No.22330830

>>22307145
This is also an analogy of how there are more talented chuubas out there that get no viewers while talentless chuubas get viewers because they're from a big company.

>> No.22330998

Production Kawaii is where it's at

>> No.22332203

>>22326920
No cap with cap being defined as:
a kind of soft, flat hat, typically with a visor.
"a man wearing a raincoat and a flat cap"

>> No.22332324

>>22327376
Indie groomer spotted

>> No.22332364
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>>22305770
Have you tried the vtubers outside hololive/nijisanji who aren't 2views?

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>>22305770
>told to watch EN talents outside of hololive
>check some out
>all of them are unhinged whores dependent on a single gag or peepeepoopoo humor
I will stick to my idols thank you

>> No.22332784

>>22332686
t. has not watched anyone outside hololive

>> No.22333204

>>22309084
same.
wait.

>> No.22334203

>>22305770
>Just chatting (literally a stream doing nothing but reading comments)
>Elden Ring (flavor of the month game)
>Amongus (Screaming between minutes of dead air: the stream)
>Minecraft (story time or straight up ranting)
There you go, the Twitch Indie Vtuber experience in a nutshell, no need to go look for good ones there

>> No.22334843

>>22307794
Bad Welsh man is the fucking shit and we should all listen to him.

>> No.22335076

>>22309084
but....but.....but Rack Rives Hatter!

>> No.22336407

I keep seeing people talk about "low effort", but what are you guys actually referring to? They're not big corpos, so they can't put on a concert or something. Do you mean something like playing different games?

>> No.22343317

>>22310927
name

>> No.22343454
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>>22320360
This boy ain't right.

>> No.22344326

>>22305770
Hololive is shit but at least they add many layers of filters to curate the least bit of quality, whatever thay means
Watching stream in itself is alreaddy a pretty fucking boring activity imagine of it's a random doofus trying to entertain you

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>>22306185
>2view ccv
>Close stream

>> No.22344857

>>22311369
EOP ain't it? That's a (you) problem not corpo problem. kek

>> No.22345078

>>22328317
a company that debuted m*les

Fine, you can have a (you)

>> No.22345219

>>22311369
watch a sub 2k view indie

>> No.22345374

I feel like vtubing is an expensive hobby to get into, so you've only got unfunny rich kids that never learned to be funny and stupid people who get into itin the first place.

>> No.22346205

>>22332784
But kson is not hololive

>> No.22346274
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>>22305770
>join stream
>streamer is ranting about someone
>leave
Many indies are drama twitterfags turning to Vtubing for clout.
Funny how they can only market themselves as "real" because they can't make a decent character to entertain people lol

>> No.22346471

>>22309225
Lisa said that she curses off stream and Urara said that Amiya was the most wild member. So she's definitely putting up an act but she's still cute.

>> No.22346618

sara now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS1jHwRZ3es

>> No.22346987

>>22332364
Is that the cripple from twitch?

>> No.22348384

>>22346987
No, that's the menhera that got her whole company to cancel a guy who exposed them.

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