/#/ - Numbers

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>>22074116
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

>>22074116
>>22073454
Most people are watching this twitch collab on twitch. Twitch softboy has 20k viewers by himself.

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Remembering the good days when HoloEN amongus had over 100k watching…

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>>22074166
I'm aware, there are a few high profile streamers. But this is the /#/ thread on /vt/, other kinds of streamers don't matter. On that note though, Mousey finally got 7k for her POV

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>>22074166
>Most people are watching this twitch collab on twitch.
nigga mouse is like 3k les over her median onthis shit

[Anonymous No.]

Selen under 1k.

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Man that collab is fucking Selen's numbers something fierce.

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>>22074391
Does that somehow change the fact that more people are watching the collab on twitch than on youtube?

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>>22074116
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>62,820: Aqua (Hololive)
>31,199: Suzuya Aki (Nijisanji)
>28,742: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,301: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,512: Marine (Hololive)
>23,038: Miko (Hololive)
>19,544: Toya (Nijisanji)
>12,791: Suisei (Hololive)
>11,608: Shion (Hololive)
>10,863: Flare (Hololive)
>10,600: Amelia (Hololive)
>10,494: Mio (Hololive)
>10,392: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,346: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,318: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,116: Koron (Indie)

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>>22074560
It's a trash game, same thing for Overwatch.

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>>22074667
I mean, why bring it up in the first place? For Vtubers there are in fact more people watching the collab on Youtube than Twitch

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>>22074116
*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY*

>5638: Kobo (HololiveID)
>4431: Kobo (HololiveID)
>2373: Zeta (HololiveID)
>2153: Moona (HololiveID)
>1961: Ollie (HololiveID)
>1699: Risu (HololiveID)
>1421: Ollie (HololiveID)
>1420: Kaela (HololiveID)
>1102: Mythia (Indie)
>932: Reine (HololiveID)
>672: Amicia (Nijisanji ID)
>544: Andi (MAHA5)
>471: Bonnivier (Nijisanji ID)
>272: Hana (Nijisanji ID)
>207: Xia (Nijisanji ID)

[Anonymous No.]

>>22074676
>Make a gartic collab
>Invites Marine
>She's the only who get the viewers
Stop inviting her seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

b2b kuzu gold
>b2b kuzu gold
b2b kuzu gold
>b2b kuzu gold
b2b kuzu gold
>b2b kuzu gold

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>>22074116
*FINAL TW TALLY OF THE DAY*

>710: Healing (indie)
>619: Annin Miru (indie)
>516: Kamiina Haruhi (Cloud Horizon)
>478: Mizuki (Meridian Project)
>462: Lutralutra (Rescute)
>401: HaiZ (Monstar)
>350: Margaret Winters (Cloud Horizon)
>300: Obear (Rescute)
>232: Neko Matsuri (indie)
>209: Olda (Monstar)

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>>22074800
i don't think you understand why the gartic collabs happen in the first place

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>>22074824
Would be funny if his anti-number ass sabotaged himself enough to get his gold stolen.

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Koyori's graph is weirdly spiky, and Subaru's had some weird behavior as well, like dulled spikes

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>>22074981
Would be funny if you stopped dreaming about impossible scenarios.

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>>22074981
>>22075074
wait, people think Kuzuha'll get gold today?
are you guys serious?

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>>22075074
i mean, it can happen
he did a speedrun on his latest outfit, like, barely talked before the reveal and straight up show his head first
kuzuha is not a numberfag

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she's awake
>>22074978

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>>22075251
laplus was inspired by him afterall

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>>22075000
Ehhh, it’s a little spikey but it seems like it hasn’t done anything noteworthy to raise any concerns. The numbers seem to add up, not like Subaru’s hurting in ccv or anything of sort

[Anonymous No.]

peko elden ring
https://youtu.be/aEop9s9urX4

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>>22075429
For reference, here’s Gura’s spikes from hell

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>>22075398
Are you actively TRYING to lure the heater back to /#/?
Let her have her fun entertaining the rest of the board man.

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>>22075513
in 9 hours. use holodex like a normal person and at least wait a bit

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>>22075618
Heater? Wtf autocorrect. I meant JESTER.

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>>22075197
>>22075251
Your guys are kidding right? Kuzuha outfit reveal is 50k~60k floor, unless someone from the holojp side stream something really special it's kuzuha gold, stop doubting everything for no reason.

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>>22075701
a-a-a-annon......
do...do you not remember what happened....the last time he revealed an 'outfit'?

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>>22075701
Anon he's going to drop in, show of the outfit, then fuck off in 30 minutes.

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>>22074560
People still play crab game?

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, peace

[Anonymous No.]

>>22075674
>Anon unconsciously wants to use her as a body heater
..

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>>22075701
most nijifags are anti-numberfags
Kuzuha will start the stream, stall for like 10 minutes top, show the outfit, talk a bit with chat and end the stream after 30 minutes
Pekora has legitimately better chance than Kuzuha today

plus all of Nijisanji has reclined and that includes Kuzuha

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>>22075931
it was fun for like the first week it came out... months ago
also surprised people still trust the devs after the whole ip leak thing

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>>22073159
Unfortunately that seems to be the case anon. JPfags now aren't as much as a thing like it was in 2019-2020. With so many EN vtubers out there, a lot either don't watch jp or just watch clips. This is true for hololive and for nijisanji and no wonder both subs are dominated by EN content. It's very rare for a new viewer since 2021 to go to JP vtubers instead of just focusing on EN based ones.

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>>22075701
>Kuzuha outfit reveal is 50k~60k floor
hahaha right...
https://playboard.co/en/video/c2eM80kwSxE

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>>22076078
When they DO get into them though.....
There's a reason Holox had such big debuts, there is something special about onboarding from the start for a vtuber, and many were no doubt searching for their oshi that they didn't necessarily find with any of the existing jp chubbas.
It doesn't help that the biggest bridge went up in flames and reddit itself has been choking the life out of it's userbase with more nonsensical bullshit (there are some extra retarded rules about trannies and slurs that have come in in the past few years)

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>>22074800
>don't invite your friend to a collab because of numberfaggotry
rumao

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>sub 10k waiting
its over...

[Anonymous No.]

Susan is doing something to Noctyx

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>>22076322
they can always invite others friend y'know.

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>>22076587
looks like bot culling like usual

[Anonymous No.]

mumei/bae 6.7k waiting

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>>22076322
Marine doesn't have any friends in hololive. She's only tolerated because management favors her and they don't want to run afoul of management.

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>>22076587
Gods, that nonsense from yesterday is STILL happening? Susan, just what the fuck did you do to your already shitty CCV algo?

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>>22076587
Why is the fag inclining?
The shitposters said that he was boring.

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>>22076725
Korosan...

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>>22076765
You can see inclines easier on small streamers

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>niji low numbers
noooooooooo its ccvid

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>>22076587
Looks like Susan ran it through an FFT.

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>>22076663
Do you honestly think someone is botting a 1.2k stream?

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>>22076878
fuck off, I watch chuubas so that I don't have to deal with this

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>>22077069
with their fanbase? that's actually pretty low

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https://twitter.com/umiushiurara/status/1512612203278393348

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Looks like Tsunderia’s main manager just quit.
https://twitter.com/umiushiurara/status/1512612203278393348

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>>22076272
It sucks honestly. Better period of time for me still is 2019 for jp agencies.

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>>22076708
10k now

[Anonymous No.]

>>22077283
>>22077290
HOLOEN3 HOLOEN3 HOLOEN3

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>>22077154
They massively overlap in fanbase so them all streaming at once outside of timeslot kills their numbers.

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>>22077283
>>22077290
Wait a second! Isn't Phase Connect coming out with a new gen later this month? Perhaps their CEO hired her?

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>from over 20k to 10k
Bae is a duo debuff

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>>22075994
>most nijifags are anti-numberfags
Wrong

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>>22077721
Ame is on.

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HoloEN 17,714 (2)
NijiEN 20,161 (10)

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>>22077674
Is PC that much of a jump?

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>>22077749
Niji numberfags doesn't represent the fanbase. Well, the same goes for us holo numberfags too. We're not the majority.

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>>22077822
alban...

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>>22077283
>>22077290
Statement from Tsunderia
https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1512611254648688645

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Noel eating 10k.

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>>22077893
NijiEN needs to stop being blatant numberfags though and I'm not talking about fans.

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>>22077915
>a male on the 3 digits
it's over

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Mumbae 13k now

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>>22077839
From Tsunderia? Yes.

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>Aqua's APEX vod has reached 1M views
Damn, she didn't even win a single game.

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>>22078119
Well that beats my prediction. Can they make it to 15k?

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>>22078197
Wouldn't be shocked if it hits 16

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>>22077915
He left the game and is ending stream.

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>>22078179
Bruh it was a 6hr vod where she averaged over 40k and peaked 60k+ playing apex. If it didn’t get 1M that’d be a sorry ass state of a stream

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https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1512256415812964383?

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Milord can save us with some...collab...

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>>22078357
Man, that's a bit bigger than I thought, even knowing the dimensions.

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>>22078357
oh.. i want one...

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>>22078417
Didn't his last It Takes Two collab get mogged too?

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>>22078357
What a nice skin tone...

[Anonymous No.]

14k

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>>22077283
>>22077290
Oh of fucking course, whenever Tsunderia looks like it's going to incline something bad happens to them

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>>22078512
IRyS....don't you have a collab to prepare for?

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>>22078357
>white
I WILL NOW BUY YOUR DOLL

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>>22078357
what type of black magic is this

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>>22078534
Tsunderia is cursed indeed

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https://youtu.be/pgBlZmEbt70
Gold.

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>>22078627
She asked Kronii for a favor

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>>22078733
Not a vtuber.

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>>22078357
iyrs is aloe now

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>>22078357
looks like a sign of things to come for IRyS

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There's currently
-- 1 hololiveEN stream
-- 10 nijisanjiEN streams
-- 8 Small English corp streams

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>>22078931
>iyrs is aloe now
Aloe's model would work great with IRyS's voice and personality.

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>>22078998
>-- 1 hololiveEN stream
2, 3 if you want to count the one in the collab.

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>>22078931
>>22079016
>Halloe, it's Aloe!

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>>22078357
>only 3 days to get it
why

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>>22079101
FOMO, perfect time to remind people.

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>>22079101
Anon? It's been up for near a month.

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>>22079101
I was out since her BD wasn't it?

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>>22078998
ayo don't forget my girl over here...

3.4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpMK-_WnRBo

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>>22079101
Not selling well.

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>>22078998
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

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MuBae 15k

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>>22078357
waiting for Yagoo to model Nene's boxers

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>>22078197
yep just did

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15k get
also gonna brag that this was my upper bound prediction and I'm confident that this is as far as it goes

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>>22078007
remenber when some nijinigger said luxem are as big as a jp liver
yeah... good times

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>>22079016
Sex model + Sex personality
I can only get so erect.

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>>22079712
Come on now....
NA time Luxiem is basically what most of /#/ thought how'd they do. What no one expected was that a pair of brits would end up attracting the attention of CN/TW/SEA. Just because shitposters gonna shitpost, doesn't mean you have to discard your brain.

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>>22078007
>Can't even beat Ame with a super debuff game
The sad state of NijiEN

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(2 streams) 20k watching holo en.

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>>22079878
With saturday noon holo jp invasion.

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I would say they might have a chance at 16k still but Haachama's bullshit is starting in 10 minutes.

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>>22078007
Man... Remember Collab between Vtubers used to be a special thing?

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>>22079798
>shitposters gonna shitpost
the shitposter from this >>22079712 were nijilivers themself

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>>22080049
That's just how things are with NijiEN. Don't like? Don't watch!

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>>22080004
Maybe they will end and funnel into hachama

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>>22080049
these collabs are just ''look how many people we can invite'' flexes, but they tend to have zero chemistry or just end up in discord noise

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>>22080049
Too many solo streams turn into impromptu collabs in NippleEN to the point that their actual collabs have zero novelty.

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>>22075513
will peko do the numbers strat of trying to beat tree guardian at level 1, and if so what numbers will she get

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>>22080234
I think it will be quite the opposite, a 1:30-45 stream and Chama's meme review will be an hour at most so they will overlap almost the whole stream

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>>22080456
I really doubt a food review would go on for another hour

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>>22080334
sounds like a person who don't watch nijien.

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https://youtu.be/V1OzY9Z8vqY
Nodoka's first stream

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah damn, they were close to 16k but Haachama just ate them up.

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>>22080745
>7k debut
Hololive declining

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>>22080745
Nodoka-chan in the telly!

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My wife Nodoka's looking extra cute today

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>>22080745
She cute.

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>>22080745
Nodok-A-chan

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>>22080937
They spoiled it by putting her in random stuff and not doing a real debut.

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>>22081263
She's a staff...

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>>22079101
The biggest selling periods for merch are right at the beginning and right at the end. Makes sense to advertise it now.

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I'm watching Chammers stream and chat's speed is ridiculously high for a 3k stream.

Why does Susan hate her so much?

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>>22081467
Haatons are crazy and she doesn't have slow mode on.

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>>22081290
Still if they really wanted they could have not shown her design or voice and done a proper reveal and got like 40-50k. Not saying there would have been any point in doing that, just that they could have.

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>>22079798
Yeah, a lot of our predictions for Luxiem ended up being 100% accurate when you consider the market we thought they would be streaming too. Pretty much everybody here thought they would put up moderately better numbers than the girls but it would be nothing earth shattering which is exactly what happened when you consider NA time.

Nobody could have predicted the chinks.

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>>22081678
It would of been cute, but I think they did it on purpose. They want to have a separation between talent and staff.

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>>22081678
She's A-chan assistant, she gets a 3D model to share some work on the main channel, not to steal the spotlight from other people. It will spark the argument that "what makes her more special than A-chan, Shinove, or any other manager behind the scenes to get her own staff debut stream ? "

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>>22081983
Speaking of staff. Cover should make a generic 2d Model for the staff with a few accessories.

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So Bae did exactly what /#/ wanted and streamed every day for a month, and where did that got her?
>sub 10k karaoke
>5k solo gaming
>needs collabs to break 10k
What happened?

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>>22082186
She should of done some celebration streams.

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>>22082186
you don't do things for a month if you want a stronger floor, you do them for years

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>>22082139
Maybe they should. but for what purpose ? It's not like other staff will show up on the main channel anyway

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>>22082186
Bae is just unpopular

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>>22082186
It's her fault doesn't play buff games

[Anonymous No.]

>>22082186
Needs more collabs and more open VC for other Holos to prop her up. She is like the third or 4th option for most but not a top/favorite for viewers.

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>>22082186
>Believe in /#/
ngmi

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>>22082186
This is why you don't suck homostar's cocks

[Anonymous No.]

HoloJP 42,839 (7)
NijiJP 1,224 (2)

HoloEN 19,526 (2)
NijiEN 16,170 (8)

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>>22082324
Future proff it. Polka could of used it with her manager

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>>22082186
Bae without collab is a very weak streamer, maybe she'll need to work on that first. Stream more work better if you're already entertaining.

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>>22082186
Her solo streams still need work, but considering she's probably one of the youngest HoloEN members, it's something she'll get better at with more streams.

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>>22082186
Koyori strat. Stream on dead hours and become a holo waiting room for the JPs entering JP primetime. Afternoon JST/Australia is optimal. She will get numbers, her fans are mostly koreans anyway, so she won't miss out a lot if she's not streaming in EN primetime.

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>>22081678
She hasnt "earned" her spolight desu purisu andastando

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>>22082186
Collab ban so she will be forced to make content and expand her base audience first. Not associate with males and collab too much with others so she can wrangle up her fanbase for the full parasocial hit.

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>>22082186
Should've switch model with mumei. She cant play chaos for shit

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>>22082767
Everyone in council would be a better fit for Chaos

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>>22082767
The problem had never been she didn't play the character well, the problem is that she speak like a goddam child (not the cheeky or cute one but the cringe fortnite one)

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Aqua is so strong
Apex is insane

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>>22083031
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

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>>22080745
A staff has better rigging than most Nijis.

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>>22082186
Bae and Sana are the only ones in Council that are still lost. Fauna, Kronii and Mumei have found their footing and expanding it.

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>>22082767
Mumei's moe gap is wonderful though

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mubae ending

who will get the funnel

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>>22083059
Goddamit even the Fortnite kids?

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>>22083080
Lol

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>>22083194
yes

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>>22083184
Give some viewers to my autistic daughter pls

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>>22083124
Bae and Sana should embrace the Australian.

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>>22082186
Didn't she take a break after her 1 month streaming and that killed her momentum?

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Ironmouse on Haachama's stream

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>>22083124
Funny enough, only Bae and Sana aren't usual collab partners with Gura. & IRyS

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>>22082186
She needs to be a good streamer. She got really fucking lucky that there were a lot of technical difficulties and people being really busy during February that she was basically streaming alone so she was the only one left to watch. But even despite that she needed gimmicks like heart rate monitor, or collabs like the Re8 ones to get higher numbers anyway. But without being alone she's literally nothing because she is just not a good streamer. She can learn to be one, but it clearly needs more time. Also she really needs to abandon the loud and annoying bit and probably actually read a fucking book once in a while, she's ignorant to an absurd degree.

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>>22083276
You got to be more specific.

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>>22083380
Chama

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>>22083310
Crossover immanent

[Anonymous No.]

I-is nodoka-chan a heimin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083380
I think his daughter is chammer

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083310
You mean Nyanner?

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>>22083337
What. Bae is absolutely a regular collab partner with Irys

[Anonymous No.]

why are all the jp charts so spiky today

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083310

Leech

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>>22083337
>aren't usual collab partners
Did you see their impromptu collab last night?1
They have 0 fucking chemistry because Bae legitimately lived under a rock or something.

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>>22083310
she thougth iron mouse and nyanners were the same person....

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>>22083652
they aren't?

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>>22083629
>Australian
>Live under a rock
Makes sense

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>>22083540
>/#/
>actually watching streams
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

Not the biggest funnel, but it was enough to bring Haachama to 5k

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083652
Tomato tomato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083652
Eh they kind of look the same plus they both got like 15 alt outfits, I don't blame her.

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>>22083540
>>22083792
I worded that wrong, meant that also IRyS doesn't collab much with Gura
>>22083629
I did... thats Kiara levels of cultural unawareness but she just stays silent unlike the chicken.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAA I want to fuck Nodoka chan so bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>22082186
I like Bae but even I have to admit she's not a great entertainer. She relies way too heavily on zany overacted reactions and not enough on keeping chat engaged with what she's doing.

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I haven't seen Ironmouse or Nyanners play a game together with NijiEN? Did they play together before?

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>>22083857
Make a thread on it then

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>>22083652
But burger said she's the biggest on twitch which mean the biggest in the world, why doesn't chammer recognize her?

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>>22083794
she was growing anyway, there was no funnel

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>>22083909
No, I don't want to share her to other fuckers

[Anonymous No.]

I think that it's telling that Bae's most iconic thing during her hololive run is her deformed Halloween model which was made by Ame. She is too loud and doesn't knows how to chaos. That model seriously required some Marine esque streamer to play towards the sexy aspect since it's so incredibly tailored for it.

>>22083540
I think he is saying that those aren't regular collab partners for Gura especially solo. Bae with Mario Kart couldn't even get a full solo collab with Gura and it was a 45 minutes half assed guerrilla collab but then again the synergy was looking rather poor at Bae not even knowing what Gura was talking about since she has some notable blindspots.

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>>22083652
Wait, how did the interview with Bae? Iron mouse and pink cat became the same person in my mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083928
Anon, Haachama's stream went from around 4.8k to 5.2k within the span of a minute once MuBae's stream ended. It's not an impressive funnel but a funnel nonetheless

[Anonymous No.]

ending so soon...haachama there are still numbers to be hand, half an hour more and you would've hit a nice 7k

[Anonymous No.]

>baitpost with Bae
>people actually agree
rrat...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083980
>Bae not even knowing what Gura was talking about since she has some notable blindspots

That's because she is Australian and way younger then Gura. Same thing happens in the chadcast

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083980
She, Sana and I think even Kronii too, need to just drop their fucking kayfabe. It's holding all 3 back. This haughty bitch shit for Kronii doesn't work when she clearly isn't, Bae doesn't even know what Chaos entails, and Sana relies on it so heavily that it literally is her personality. Mumei has pretty much dropped it outside of passing mentions and Fauna has embraced it healthily enough because she twisted it to suit her needs.

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>>22084137
Their takes were pretty reasonable though

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084137
Its not really bait. Bae has alot of issues as a streamer both in solo and group collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084192
But Kronii kayfabe was good, and she rarely rely on it nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084295
Anon literally every time she brings up how she's so perfect and then a split second later goes full doomer. It's retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083629
lying is bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083908
Yeah they were in those Garry Mod collabs and I think Friday the 13th?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084371
wtf no it's not

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084192
> This haughty bitch shit for Kronii doesn't work

You are wrong. Her pretending to be this perfect bitch and failing is great

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083980
>She is too loud and doesn't knows how to chaos
I see this complaint and automatically assume it's a Nijinigger because it makes zero sense as a criticism. As much sense as saying Marine isn't enough of a Pirate or Kanata isn't angelic enough. The character background for Holos is ultimately unimportant for their actual streaming activities. Nobody, not a single person, wants to, or expects Baelz to actually perform as the embodiment of chaos so saying she's not "chaotic enough' or doesn't know how to be chaotic is a complete non-issue that has nothing to do with her numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084192
Mumei uses it when it suits her. Overall I'd say she does a pretty good job of playing into it since it mostly boils down to vague historical references, which is fun in its own right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084137
Not a bait when the issue they brought up is true. Fuck Omegatranny with his retarded 9yo lore. Bae isn't suit for the Chaos role, but she is so commit to the act and it become really annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

Bae is too green.
She's designed as the leader of council, but she ends up delegated into a supporting role.
The other girls overpower her easily in collabs.
At this point, she might as well go full GFE while grinding improv classes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084328
>>22084192
that's called gap moe, you philistine

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084328
And that shit was great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084471
What the owl do in 1932 ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084192
Bae and Sana and can agree, but Kronii's kayfabe actually works well for her. She has no reason to drop, she's fine when she's onstream all she has to do is hit "go live" more often and have less debuff streams. Also Mumei hasn't abandoned her kayfabe, she's just altered it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084328
Not him, but I dig that shit. Domination loss makes me hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084465
>Nobody, not a single person, wants to, or expects Baelz to actually perform as the embodiment of chaos
It feels that she herself feels that way and that's the entire problem. She tries to be something she can't and that no one wants her to be.
Also why loud? How can a woman think being loud is a good idea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084619
Haachama is loud

[Anonymous No.]

about to be 9 streams for holojp at 1pm and 3 of them are ER
there's not enough audience for this

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084551
Don't know, but she as involved in some art school in 1907

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>>22084619
Because it's to make up for the fact that she doesn't know how to do actual commentary, or even play off the game she's playing. Like holy fuck try watching her Cyberpunk. It's awful. But on the other hand you have shit like her MK8 stream before Gura joined where she was quiet half the time because she was too focused and wouldn't really speak mid match and then yell or whatever if she got hit, while most people just use that game as a platform to talk.

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>>22084642
Chammers has a cute voice. Bae does not

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084619
She was pretty much the same in her old persona so she's not doing an act to try and match the character, it's just her streaming face. She's a loud 2nd gen Chinese-Australian scene girl zoomer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084465
Really the core issue is she's just too loud in general, enough that it gets annoying. Whether that's because of her kayfabe or not is irrelevant.
>>22084642
The difference is that chammers is cuter when she's loud.

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>>22084747
>Really the core issue is she's just too loud in general
Yes I agree with that. That and she has a bad tendency to repeat the same words 4-5 times to fill dead air.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084726
>>22084747
Sure she's cute when she's loud, I'm just debunking this anon's claim that loud is a bad idea. It depends on the streamer, Bae is just bad at it.
>Also why loud? How can a woman think being loud is a good idea?

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>>22084642
Hachama is a chaotic Australian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084111
She should make them a bit longer, her 2 last meme reviews are 50 mins long and both of them where still inclining when she ended the stream. 1h and 20-30 mins or so would be better for numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084642
the louder haachama gets the more cute she becomes though

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084804
Fair. Chammers has this shit down to a science.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22083376
so is this admission that holo dont strike gold like it's said all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084833
she fucking zooms through the memes too

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084795
>Oh mah gawd bruh

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084856
holo in shambles. thank you shu

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084722
The MK collab is not solely Bae fault, the two of them barely talk off stream resulted in the lack of chemistry, Gura speak to Sana off stream more than Bae.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>22083908
Ironmouse had like 10 collabs with NijiEN, and is on one right now. She also interviewed all luxiem but mysta and shu, and shes going to interview Nina next week. Nyanners had like 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084856
Pekora liked her and asked for an impromptu Collab in Minecraft, Bae has a shit ton of potential

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084915
>Oh my gawd bruh
>Bruh
>Bruuuuuuuh
>Bruh
>Oh...My God.
>BRUH

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084921
Anon I was talking about BEFORE Gura hopped in, not after

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084921
Who posts the most in the holo discord? I want to see the numbers. I need to see the numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084833
>>22084899
Haachama rarely does long streams, the majority are 1-2h, with the occasional 2+

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084959
Pekora approached Moona for a collab and Moona isn't actually a very good streamer either.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is this thread full of people whining about Bae? I think she's actually improved since debut and gets better numbers than back then. Her biggest weakness is she's not good at games and not good at picking them, and in a medium where a lot of your content is game-dependent that's gonna hurt you.

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>>22084940
nijibronies...

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>>22084984
Kiara, have you seen her Twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085047
>>22078007

[Anonymous No.]

anyone caught anything from haachama's 6k though? or whatever her peak was? I didn't see any streams suddenly zoom up or anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084940
there's not enough people for this...
when migo comes on, koyo's gonna drop below 5k... that hasn't happened since the DQM streams...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084984
I'll guess
Kiara > >>>>> Ame > Ina > Mori > Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085047
Mumei isn't good at videogames either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085047
just nijiniggers trying to tear down Bae because they're jealous

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084856
>Kronii and Mumei
But somehow Council just keep sabotaging themselves. Because of the Lore ? Because of Omegatranny? or both ? Also Council has a lot of tech issue in just a span of 7-8 month. 1-2 weeks and 1 of them will have a broken monitor / moving / cpu problem / etc...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085047
>whining about Bae
Shist are some of the most reasonable discussion you can find about her. No one was even shit on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085047
Someone asked a question about her numbers and why it like, reverted after February and people responded because her streaming style sucks. A conversation was had because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22082186
Bae is a great talker and very smart last month was terrible because of extreme overlaps and took an almost 2 weeks break. She can found her footing again same with Iroha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085047
Game choice helps but being a good entertainer helps much more. Miko can get 20k playing Asetto Corsa

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085036
You talking about the Queen of ID and someone that stole the show on the first day of holofes

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085047
I was backreading and just laughing at this clowns they clearly a threadwatchers who didnt actually seen the full streams and just making assumptions kek.

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>>22085218
>someone that stole the show on the first day of holofes
>holofes
Ah yes, that has everything to do with her streaming skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084479
someone should send them a memo that it's okay to drop the act

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085218
Kobo is the new queen of ID now. get wreck indog moonafag

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084940
Luca can't even beat ame supa reading? Lol.

[Anonymous No.]

Feels like Nijiniggers trying to concern troll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085275
Moona's main focus is singing and not streaming.

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>>22085182
>Bae is a great talker
Come on anon. For council it was something like this:
Mumei (good day)> Fauna >Mumei (normal day)> Kronii>Sana(shitpost mode)> Bae>Sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085318
>Concern troll
>When half the posts are saying she just needs to chill and stream more and she'll eventually get better

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085047
These are the same points that threadreaders have made for months against Bae. So I'm guessing >>22078007 has got them seething more than usual.

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>>22085102
It was around 5,6k iirc

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>>22085047
Bae did a pick-up review stream.
She should do a roast-me review stream, next.
Predictions on how long she would last before breaking down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085328
So what does that have to do with collabs in Minecraft? Or are you claiming Pekora "approached" Baelz because of her singing potential?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22084940
Rami 9.5k talking, gen 5 schizo....might as well cut your nutz off.

[Anonymous No.]

c-keks not like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085338
you know its wrong when kronii is above bae like cmon this will be my last time talking to you kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085465
Kronii(collab)

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>>22085350
Can you point to any criticisms that were wrong? Most of the replies were pretty level headed, it doesn't make you look good to write them all off because you're a schizo who thinks seaniggers are constantly trying to gaslight you,

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085461
Are you posting from a foxhole?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085068
>>22085138
>>22085138
>>22085304
The collab already ended with only Shu and Luca streaming. They are just zatsudan mode now

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085433
Moona is great when she is with someone she is comfortable with and is getting better doing solo streams.

The same thing can be said about Bae.

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>>22085290
It feels like Council's managers are literally not exist. I like all 5 of them, but goddamn somehow the retarded lore is become theirvburden than a hype tool. Fans usually predict how long until the talents drop their lore. But with council the lore is still with them, it's like a shackles that they can't get rid but instead needs to hold on to it just to feel comfortable while streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085304
Luca is in a collab, don't compare him to Ame, compare him to the two hololive staff collabing on a watchalong.

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>>22085157
i blame it to them not living in a same country with the managers, this is why JP talents tend to have their problem quickly solved. The only solution for EN is to move them and their manager to Japan or at least Indonesia since they already have actual branch there (by move i mean move to live not merge them with JP/ID branch and by actual branch i mean branch with physical office), Except Mori, she's already in JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085596
Fauna dropping her lore would be pointless at this point though. She's incorporated it well enough and her being an actual fucking vegan just makes it work all the more.

[Anonymous No.]

she's not chaotic as mumei expected..

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085584
Councils love their lore.

[Anonymous No.]

Welp that was a nice civil discussion

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085596
The collab already ended for more than 30 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085584
Mumei has the same manager as Ame
souce: talked it on stream before

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085465
Anon, discarding my taste, Kronii was holding 8-9k for her Powerwash stream, which is a glorify zatsudan stream. She can be a good talker not consistent but better than Bae.

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>>22085579
Doesn't sound like
>shit ton of potential
to me. It's fine to admit you're biased and trying to read everything super favourably for Baelz because you like her, because you know who else Pekora approached? Sana. Because the both of them were newbies who happened to be on the server at the time, not because Pekora was hunting down super talented streamers to collab with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085584
It's only a shackle for Bae and is a crutch for Sana. Everyone else is using it for their advantage.

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Now that Capsule has reached 1m. Updated list
>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Original songs only) (7th Apr 2022)

REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
Q (CalliGura) - 0d 19h 32m
Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2d 17h 0m
Reflect (MV) (Gawr Gura) - 2d 12h 24m
Myth or treat (Holomyth) - 2d 20h 45m
End of a life (Mori) - 3d 9h 50m
>Capsule(Calliope Mori) - 4d 13h 51m
RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h 49m

Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 5d 15h 50m
Red (Mori Calliope) - 6d 0h 52m
Template (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 6d 10h 25m
Bully (Mori Calliope) - 8d 10h 1m
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 9d 0h 34m
Violet (Ninomae Inanis) - 9d 12h 40m
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9d 13h 54m
UnAlive (Mori Calliope) - 10d 00h 22m
Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 3h 37m
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 18h 43m

DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 12d 5h 20m
A New Start (Nanashi Mumei) - 12d 6h 52m
Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12d 14h 41m
Graveyard shift (Mori and Boogie Voxx) -13d 6h 0m
Interact Fantasia (3rd gen) - 13d 17h 19m
Yoi no yo, Yoi (Nakiri Ayame) - 13d 22h 0m
Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 14d 12h 52m
Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 14d 15h 51m
Live Again (Mori Calliope) - 14d 18h 10m
Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17d 0h 14m

Journey of a thousand years (Holomyth) - 19d 17h 46m
Fact (Tokoyami Towa) - 19d 18h 9m
Play dice (Hakos Baelz) - 20d 8h 7m
HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23d 1h 0m
RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 22d 17h 29m
SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24d 19h 49m
My Song (Tsunomake Watame) - 25d 0h 59m
Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 28d 17h 37m
Curry Meishi Miracle (Pekora Subaru Aqua) - 29d 23h 9m
Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30d 2h 43m

High Tide (Moona) - 30d 2h 55m
Saikyou Tensai Korone (Inugami Korone) - 32d 22h 39m
OniKemonoDance (AyafubuMi)- 33d 22h 48m
Bye bye Rainy (Suisei) - 34d 23h 51m

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085682
Sort of over. They're still talking about Lucas weird food habits in discord even though the game itself is over.

[Anonymous No.]

Is council timeloop realy that important?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085776
Are you actually watching it? Why did Pomu leave early?

[Anonymous No.]

Damn Baeschizo went OFF since no one was biting in global

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085772
Out of the top 10 fastest 4 are Mori solos and 2 have Mori on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085461
Rubros ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085558
nope they took my phone after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085682
>4734 peak
Viewers didn't change much from the peak so evidently collab ending didn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085744
Bae is not my favorite, I just think that she can become a great entertainer with more experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085828
It's currently Holo domination and there's nothing much to talk about until JST prime time, please understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085584
I hate to break it to you anon but Council without the lore would barely be any different. Kronii would still be a depressed menhera, Baelz would still be an obnoxious zoomer, Sana would still be a lazy nignog. The only thing that would change is the jokes they make about it. Their streaming personas would be pretty much identical, lore or no lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085828
which one do you prefer? council time loop, EN vs JP, or rimjob posting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085642
dorm in NA maybe, but i don't think that will happen

[Anonymous No.]

Nijiniggers still on duty right now holobros.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085828
Yes. It's important that we express our disapproval for 8 months straight that the fluff in their bio line was more than 3 sentences. That obviously held everyone back from their true potential.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085828
Kys nigger. Not sorry for breaking your tiny bubbles about how good and superior HoloEN is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085836
Has some project work due today

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085836
A bunch of people left because they got tired and went waaay over the collab time. The ones that are left are the talkative endurance streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085866
Baeschizo is the strongest schizo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085870
on the /hlgg/ thread they were saying that Capsule underperformed. Your thoughts?

>>22085443

[Anonymous No.]

>>22075701
Kuzuha said he has nothing prepared so he might flash it and dip
which is what he usually does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085772
Getting progressively slower and slower. The hype for Mori is dying, not increasing. Suisei on the other hand just set a new record for herself, she's on the incline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085948
I think ID is better, they will live like a queen there

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085828
There really isn't much else to talk about right now. Here are the current streams going on if you want that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085902
You're free to think that she'll grow into a great streamer and you might even be right, but using a single interaction with Pekora as proof is downright retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085917
That's what make the different.Without their lore they will not have anything convenient to grab onto and will have to find a new way to engage with their fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085461
Rusbro...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085866
Baeschizo most likely has a wet dreams from always thinking Bae.

[Anonymous No.]

There's some really retard Bae shill here in this thread. Not all Council criticism is from Nijinigger. Most of the post criticize her was tame, not shitting on her and in good faith. She had gotten better since debut but not enough to reflect on her numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085941
i will take en vs jp over that on anyday

[Anonymous No.]

why is it that these threads always shit on bae and sana and sometimes Kronii but never fauna or mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085382
much lss than before but it couldn't be helped with the decent overlap, I'm surprised she broke 5k and seeing the graph she was still inclining
what's with these weird bumpy graphs all day though

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086081
More people watch Kronii because she's a cynical, irony poisoned pseudo-millennial than anything to do with her lore. That's not going to change either way. Same for the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22085772
>Gura is in the top 10 twice with the same song
How is this allowed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086065
eh it's ID, unless they live in Reine's palace

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086125
Fauna is arguably the best talker of the bunch, while Mumei does well with references and meme humor like Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086125
Fauna and Mumei don't stream enough to even judge what they might be doing wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086125
because most of shitposters are from their fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086221
Mumei and Fauna literally had the most streams out of Council last month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086226 (me)
and most of the fanbase of this 3 just stick with their own generals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086125
There's a Fauna schizo but he doesn't come here as much as other threads, there's also a Mumei schizo but he spams doxx in hlg and the catalogue and his stuff gets taken down quick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086125
they have their portion in global

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086125
because most of the time they're fine? numberswise fauna has managed to get a somewhat solid floor and mumei has managed to get a regular buff stream in unarchived karaokes, and while they're styles can be a little niche, they're mostly inoffensive

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086221
you don't watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086221
You are the reason why we can't have civil discussions in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086125
you see anon, the trick is if I shitpost about my oshi, others most likely won't or might just throw a small insignificant comment, now I don't mind shitposting about my oshi because I know for a fact that what I'm saying isn't real so the hurt doesn't sting as much unlike when someone else shittalks and you don't know if they're serious or not
I learned this from haatons during the great depression

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086330
>Mumei 18 streams
>Koyori 52 streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>22082186
Bae has a lot of things in her personality that pushes people away, she is great in collabs but not someone that people want to have as a oshi

[Anonymous No.]

Reine at 5k ccv, is this her highest ccv stream in a long while?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086380
I don't watch EN because it's pretty much garbage in comparison to JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086433
Kyori streams too much. Like, objectively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086221
thats mostly the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086125
Because Sana, Kronii and Bae problem is the biggest. While Fauna, with her kind of content is actually over-performing, and Mumei somehow become face of Council along side of Kronii (when she not playing debuff shit). Based on their role, talents and early behavior it not suppose to be like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086490
then why comment about them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086433
Koyo is her own special case anon, probably shouldn't use her for comparisons lmao

[Anonymous No.]

honestly we talk about hololive strucking gold all the time but a lot of them are legit carried by the brand at this point. Moona, Iofi, Sana, Bae, Roboco, Choco, Mel, so many that are still the same mediocre vtuber to this day after years

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086433
>Koyori 52 streams
She literally number one number streams on on that list

[Anonymous No.]

so there is a new topik. Are this numbers okay?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm rewatching the concert and Mariner's new song sounds great, but I don't think it will blow up like Unison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086543
How will anyone know they're garbage if I don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086607
Yes because no EN poorfag gonna show up to this stream anyway. The Japanese will watch the vods later for the reaction

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086575
>Choco
Some men are just marked by homosexuality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086607
Yeah, everyone that cared already watched the concert last month and they had a few options for watch along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086607
pretty good for a fucking watchalong and in that fucking cursed channel

[Anonymous No.]

I just backread and most of the "criticism" against Bae is threadreader shit
You don't watch her and stop pretending you do

"SHE'S TOO LOUD OMG"
She has calmed down considerably since debut and she often does "chill" streams where she talks alot but those get worser ccv than her "loud" streams

"She's not a good talker"
Once again, threadreader shit
Bae is arguably one of the best at zatsus in Council

She does struggle with group collabs but her 1 on 1 collabs are great
Her gaming solo streams are also on the weak side I'll give you that
She is also not good at being chaos sure

Otherwise, most of the other criticism reeks of threadreader bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

might leave for now SEAnigs are ruining this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086639
You are the reason why we can't have civil discussions in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086607
Entirely carried by people wanting to see the new staffer

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086607
Rusbro...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086608
Unison is objectively better in everyway possible. If the video show in the background was actually Marine's new song MV then her upcoming song is pretty generic

[Anonymous No.]

>Lamy's zatsudan during weekend lunch is almost 10k
This woman is growing too powerful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086639
you are such a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086777
They just want to check her unity levels

[Anonymous No.]

hagbros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086608
Oh for sure it won't be as explosive as Unison but it might end up doing better in the long run because Marine can actually sing it unlike Unison lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086885
looks like a Gura spiky graph

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086741
noticed that too i think most of it are from nijiniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086814
Don't think it was, look like generic pirate footage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086885
don't look at fubuki, you're gonna get sadder

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086741
>/#/
>Watching streams
Good try man

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086885
Reclining…

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086915
Probably Fatgur himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086960
kek

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, why haven't Noel and Luna made a song together this is was the best song in the fes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086938
>2k
final fantasy was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086539
>Based on their role, talents and early behavior it not suppose to be like this
This is probably why Kronii gets picked on a bit more /here/. Out the gate Kronii was the undisputed frontrunner of Council, and everything was in place for things to stay that way. But a combination of Mumei slightly inclining and Kronii allowing herself to slightly recline has led us to where we are now, with the two of them basically being co-stars. Which is fine and Kronii is still top 5 in EN, but her potential was much higher than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086992
Because neither of them think about making music all that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086821
It's her buff content, she probably only second to Marine when it's come to zatsudan in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/anyamelfissa/status/1512650017705959425
https://twitter.com/anyamelfissa/status/1512650017705959425
https://twitter.com/anyamelfissa/status/1512650017705959425

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>>22086992
You say that but they completely butchered the song lol. JesusP is great though and I wish Holo would hire her for a song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086741
You're the one that didn't watch her enough or let the bias mask all of her flaws. She's more calm than her first month yes, but it's like from 100% loudness reduce to 70%. Her scream is fucking unecessary.
Also arguably better zatsu streamer my ass, she's not controlling the flow of the conversation in anyway but instead let the chat say whatever they want and react to it accordingly. And if the conversation flow is turning weird she'd just shout at random or spamming bruh bruh bruh bruh bruh bruh to cut it off.

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>>22086741
>Bae is arguably one of the best at zatsus in Council
lol no she isn't. This is cope, straight from the globalfag playbook. Claim all criticisms are by "threadreaders" who don't watch streams then state a bunch of unsupported opinions about how "they really improved" in unquantifiable ways.

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>>22084173
Define “way younger”, under 20?

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>>22086741
>Bae is arguably one of the best at zatsus in Council
It's your taste anon, it doesn't reflect in number. She's not a good talker or not the kind of talker that vibe with a lot of audience, that's why her floor is so low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087098
Gura gets better numbers on SC reading.

[Anonymous No.]

afternoon numbers

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https://youtu.be/pDOFQS4l7jQ
>Ghostwire
Has anyone else stream this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087102
Yagoo is going to smack a bitch

[Anonymous No.]

This is why I don't like globalfags, always blaming nijifags...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087210
roru

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>>22087182
Miko ER is underperforming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087102
Put the infinity gauntlet on there

[Anonymous No.]

>>22086741
>>Bae is arguably one of the best at zatsus in Council
Compare her to Fauna and you're straight up wrong. Compare her to Mumei and again, you're straight up wrong.

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>>22087194
Some nijis have, not good numbers.

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>>22087170
She's a better talker than Lamy and no one shits on Lamy here for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

reine takes the ID gold today

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087194
Not in hololive, niji did a couple of streams, thought it's mostly shit numberswise

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087182
>70k at almost 2pm
really pushing it today, that's like close to limit for the slot

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087113
I have literally never seen what you speak of happen in her stream even once
Shows who the threadreader really is

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087210
>This is why I don't like globalfags, always blaming nijifags...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087248
Shut up gen5 schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087182
Noooo migorrr!!! drop that number poison kusoge pleaseee!!! it's killing your channeelll!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087210
This fucking Bae shill retard just go on blaming Nijifag when is not the time to shit on them yet, it's 5-11pm jst

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087248
My dude you don't even know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087223
there's not enough audience at this slot anonchama, also she started when there were other 2 ER streams going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087293
>everyone who doesn't kiss gen 5's ass is the gen 5 schizo
t. nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087248
no one in this thread speaks Japanese
also rent free

[Anonymous No.]

Numbers aside, that's personal preference
It's just straight up wrong to say that she is a bad talker though.
That is an objectively false statement, when I think bad talker, I think of the girls that freeze up when doing zatsus and let the dead air take over

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to see what the Japanese think of same-chan, check the main channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087210

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087327
Kys gen5 schizo

[Anonymous No.]

damn a-chan and nodoka are freaking out over gura's performance

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087182
sorry ringbros, nothing personal

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>>22087366
I can agree to that sure, she needs more spice in her zatsu though

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087210
I don't care much for Niji either so seeing them get the blame when I point out EN sucks dogs balls is just a nice bonus

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>>22087194
Selen was streaming this today, no idea what kind of numbers she got on it.

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>>22087381
they are all just drooling over her

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>>22087366
You're also objectively wrong to say she's one of the best when she's smack in the middle in council making her just average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087407
Why is Luna not playing any From game?

[Anonymous No.]

can you guys stop biting obvious bait

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>>22087221
>>22087289
>>22087389
It has to be falseflagging at this point...

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087501
I liked it more when the 2 view is seething
It gives the thread a common enemy
kys faggot >>22086119

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>>22087504
shut up nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087468
too busy grooming subary please understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087483
Hands broken

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>>22087483
I vaguely remember her saying she didn't have the time to dedicate to a long playthrough. She might play ER later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087586
fuck means to this >>22087483

[Anonymous No.]

do people here prefer her previous personality

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087233
I fall asleep on Fauna streams.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to cum inside a numberanon.

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>>22087460
Granted this has more to do with her overlapping the megacollab, but boy did it hurt to see

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>>22087703
What are the odds any of her 50 viewers would be in the vt number thread at 1 AM?

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>>22087766
only if you buy me dinner first

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>>22087703
Was that Baelz or Sana?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087774
For any other Niji girl 1800 would be a perfectly good or even outstanding stream. For Selen it's what, like 500 below her non-Apex average?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087703
Cuter design tbqh. Very inspired in Violet Evergarden though

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087804

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>>22087804
Sana wasn't a vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

I've always thought Reine's classroom did decently well so I compiled all the streams out of curiosity

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>>22087766
you are all the same here

[Anonymous No.]

IDLIVE SOON

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>>22087914
Are these good numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

A chan talking about wanting a moona sololive in Indonesia

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>>22087914
If I remember right the Fauna one had some brutal overlap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087766
Fuck off, I'm saving myself for marriage

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>>22087898
her roommate is a vtuber mama
dunno if the 2view still streams though

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About collabs tactics to grow your floor, does hosting channel on your floor matters?
Bae collabs a lot, but I feel like people come to her channel more than she goes to others. Hope someone can break it down.
Gura rarely have collabs on her channel, but appears on others a lot (I don't have the numbers).
And does this also effect NijiEN's ccv floor, the ones that pops in others channel get a better floor than others keep inviting people to their channel.

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>>22087914
Numbers is based on guest's popularity?

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>>22087914
choko...

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>haachama reddit review got 5k
ooph.yowch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087804
can you guess from the voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_scdF2TX-A

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087982
Not sure what this means but yes the numbers for a collab depend on who's channel it's on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22088083
Sounds Australian so Sana

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>>22087914
Coceine....

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>>22088083
this is so weird for some reason

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>>22087848
I went to check how her non-apex solo game streams usually go, and I'm a bit shocked that they're weaker than I remember them being. None of them reach 3k, the only exception being the April Fools Peppa Pig playthrough (I'd blame that on the meme game buff). Not pictured here is her Control playthrough that only got 1.7k. And before someone brings it up her Demon Souls stream is a VOD from when she streamed it live on Twitch, so sub-1k is expected

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>>22088209
blame the nijiniggers who keep trying to sell her as a gura killer

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>>22087963
Elden Ring and Vampire Survivors. They really stood no chance.

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>>22088126
Let we worded better with my ESL.

Does doing collabs on your channel are better for growing your ccv base.
Or joining collabs on other channels?

Because we have Bae and Kiara that host collabs on their channel a lot. I'm not sure it's just a coincidence or that really is what brings their numbers down because on the contrary, Kronii and Gura rarely have collabs on their channel.

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>>22087223
Overlap during during non-peak hours always makes shitty numbers, regardless of branch.

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>>22088209
because Selen is a 2k shitter, nijiniggers just keep singing her praises hoping to meme magic her into having botan tier ccv, not realizing that there's a difference between meme magic and just annoying everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>22088262
The whole EN VTuber scene is reclining. Too much VTubers, only that many fans

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>Gura
>Shion
>La+
>Kobo
All heavy hitters of their respective group. What is it about cunny that produces such large numbers? How can we further exploit it?

[Anonymous No.]

Subaru is finishing Crisis Core today BUT
>この配信はEDが映せません!よろしくお願いします!I have no ending stream!

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>>22088402
Copyright song?

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>>22088321
Going to other channels give you more exposure to newer people, hosting collabs may give you more subs

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>>22088321
I don't know that there's any way to really know. Collabs, as far as growth goes, is about exposing yourself to an audience that doesn't normally watch you (or less usually, even know who you are). Both hosting and participating accomplish this, so ideally you'd want a mix of the two. My intuition is that people who aren't even willing to follow a talent to another channel aren't prime material for new growth. That means the people who would go to kiara channel to watch Gura there and think about watching Kiara afterwards, and the people who would watch Kiara on Gura's channel and think about watching her afterwards are mostly the same people, meaning the difference is negligible.

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>>22088321
from the JPs i've noted, no, it doesn't really help with your floor, it helps with your subs and ceiling mainly
for example, okayu's floor is relatively lower compared to others (she gets pretty low on some games), but her channel is really good for collabs, they tend to get pretty good numbers there

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>>22088383
Is Aqua a cunny too?
Also Miko is a baby

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>>22088586
Aqua is bordering on oppai loli, and Pekola and Migo fall under the retarded voice young adult category I think, both strong niches in their own rights

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>>22088383
I know what you're going for but I don't think by any definition you could call Shion the heavy hitter of her group. She's like the 3rd or 4th best in every metric.

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>>22088383
>shion
>heavy hitter of her group
You almost got it when you listed Gura and Kobo with a picture of Suisei

Its the power of blue women that truly produces numbers

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>>22088383
Ho loli ve

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora is so late to the Elden Ring train lol? How much buff does this game even have left? I don't think it will do so good considering her bumbling around in Sekiro doesn't attract much people

[Anonymous No.]

>>22088698
She's making Jun lunch

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>>22088669
Is Reine blue woman enough to incline?

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>>22088758
Did not answer a single one of my question

[Anonymous No.]

>>22088805
Nah

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>>22088805
If the others acknowledged her. I mean only blue women have the rights to decide who is blue

[Anonymous No.]

>>22088805
>>22088859
If what /mep/ said was true then you can expect a Reine/Suisei/Mori cover soon
I'd say that she's an approved blue woman

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>>22088805
She counts as a silver woman

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>>22077283
>>22077290
Are small EN corpos doomed? They can't seem to get off the ground.

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>>22088698
It's her first stream for Elden Ring, so I would bet it could reach at least 30k. Might stabilize into low 20k or even high 10k area though for subsequent streams. People already kinda get the 'so bad it's good' type playstyle from Miko, and there's Botan to fill the 'good player' niche and Noel for gimmick type playstyle, so there really isn't much she could do to try and be entertaining.

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>>22078998
It's absolutely not HoloEn's hours atm. But the asians are just starting so obviously Niji"EN" would pander to them

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>>22088990
Feel like she only touch this because there's nothing else to play. Her Sekiro number is horrible so there's no way she touch another FromSoft game on her own accord after that

[Anonymous No.]

>>22088990
Guess we can treat this as a filler series for Pekora then. She basically wasted the long awaited FromSoft perm on Sekiro that didn't do much number anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087954
I think best numbers on Reine's channel are those. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22088990
>High 10k
Come on it will be in 20k+ atleast.. In her sekiro playthrough she managed to always reach 20k+

[Anonymous No.]

>>22089391
Debut

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>>22089591
well that's a given though, anything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>22088083
sounds like liliana

[Anonymous No.]

>>22089606
Her graduation will get good numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>22089915
shut up faggot

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>>22089069
I'm kind of impressed that she doesn't even try to do an utawaku yet although it should bring good numbers with rarity buff. Guess her hate for her singing is way more than her love for numbers eh.

>>22089264
Yeah it's kind of difficult since for Minecraft arc the ball is now on Subaru, saying that she will gather people and hold a court hearing for the crimes. So until that day the Minecraft arc is just kinda on hold, and if Pekora still plays it normally there's risk that the arc will just simply get forgotten or lose hype.

>>22089568
Well that depends entirely on how the timeslot pans out I guess. If you checked vrabi, then you can see that her last 2 Sekiro streams were stabilizing around high 10k area during the first hour of stream, only reaching the peak of 20k+ once she gets funneled by other streams ending.

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>>22089930
What? It's a truthful statement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22089975
i hope your oshi graduates soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22089946
Nah Pekora utawaku just get around 20k every time and that already include rarity buff like you said. She mostly only do it for events

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090021
My oshi is Reine.

[Anonymous No.]

Are they doing day 2? Need to pick up my son soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090444
yeah, they are starting in an hour

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090444
Fuck me wrong thread.

>>22090473
Thank you, that's plenty of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22087914
Popularity contest, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090444
Famanon ... Please stop going /here/ and spend sometime with your family

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090557
>>22090557
>>22090557
migrate when ready

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090444
Pick up your son and watch it with him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22088805
Purple

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090585
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090836

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090859
fuck off tourist

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090912

[Anonymous No.]

>>22082186
>So Bae did exactly what /#/ wanted and streamed every day for a month
No she didn't, and that was never what /#/ wanted either. Did you somehow confuse what 'Be consistent' means like all the other newfags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22090444
I'll be like this guy 5 years later.

[Anonymous No.]

What would Coco'c average CCV be if she stayed in hololive and was allowed to do asacoco?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22091037
8k

[Anonymous No.]

>page 11
Any final posts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22091200
Suisex

[Anonymous No.]

>>22091200
Gura cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>22091200
nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>22091200
Hololive WILL open an ES branch it will be successful and we will hate it