>opens DAW, does absolutely nothing

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>Gets signed by Universal Music Group
What does this mean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQUnJTQnQHQ&t=3319s

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the bitch only sings
everyone else is doing the work

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>>22034298
>sings
That's an overstatement.

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>>22034228
It means your oshi wishes she was as talented and successful as my Mori is.

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>>22034228
Watching this is painful because she was still somewhat humble and grateful at the time instead of having her ass stuck so far up her ass that she believes she can do no wrong.

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>>22034501
Nice try, my oshi is literally more talented, successful and respected in her field than yours will ever be.

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>>22034552
Fellow deadbeat I kneel...

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>>22034228
reminder: this was the only production stream she ever did

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>>22034625
>Learn 日本語 for our 推しs
Did she ever do that? I only recall streams to teach English to JOPs.

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>>22034794
I think she might have done a single japanese practice stream

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>>22034228
Honest question for actual deadbeats, not baiting:

Has she ever talked about (or better yet, actively shown), how much involved she is with the actual music production of "her" songs?
She writes her own lyrics I guess (I also heard she occasionally takes some assistance for the japanese parts, confirm/deny?), and obviously performs them, but anything else or is that pretty much all her involvement?
I would probably think she also comes up with the melody lines for her singing parts by herself, so I guess that's an original musical contribution?
But is the underlying music itself all outsourced to other people? Does she make beats, loops, backing tracks, whatever, is she involved in the mixing and mastering of the production, or does she basically just "order" pre made tracks from actual professionals, only puts her own lyrics on top of other people's work at the end, and then ships it off again to producers for their finishing touches?

No shame btw, I guess that's how it is for most "artists" (who're actually "just" performers), and the people who're actually original songwriters who do every step of the production themselves are much more rarer

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>>22035028
I wouldn't be surprised if mori didnt write the top lines herself, even for reflect the composer wrote the topline with a synth and had gura perform it

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>>22034794
veeery early on she did a kanji reps stream, but that got nixed because apparently they didn't have/seek proper "permissions" for the practice website she was using (yep, corpo autism is that retarded).

But sure, she doesn't seem in a hurry to go out of her way to do any more other jp learning streams (if she actually wanted to, hell, she could always just do some easy duolingo meme streams), so it's probably simplest to assume that isn't really a priority goal for her (if it ever was in the first place). She did do some "japanese free-talk" streams very occasionally, while that is not active learning, I guess it counts for some practice/repetition at least.

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>>22035084
I'd say she can at least "sketch" her own lyrics and melodies

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>>22035028
she has others do the music production most of the time lately afaik. she has a busy schedule, so she cant dedicate her time creating that dated electroswing style

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>>22035286
so can gura, she used to write melodies and lyrics(the same thing mori does) all the time but the producer still did it and I wouldn't be surprised if moris producers did too

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>>22035370
Was she at least more involved in the actual music composing / production in her earlier work before Hololive (she was "less busy" then, and also had less money (to hire professionals, for example) so would have to do more aspects of the music creation by herself?), or was the same pattern (other people make all the actual music production for her, she just injects her lyrics at the end on top of their work) basically always like this?

Basically, I'm just looking for some answers either way if she does have actual music creation / production abilities, skills, knowledge. For example, if she could make whole original tracks completely from the ground up (so beats, backings, music, effects, mixing, mastering, the whole shebang) without relying on other people's work at any point in the process (and she just chooses not to, and outsources instead, for example because she's "too busy"), or if outsourcing is not so much a choice but a necessity because she lacks the actual musical/technical abilities and couldn't do it on her own even if she wanted to, and is mostly just a lyricist/performer

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>>22035028
>>22035710

OP here. Although I was mainly shitposting, one of Mori's producers actually uses a plugin of mine in his productions because he's streamed himself using it, so I've seen the way one of them works at least. From what I can piece together she has a handful of trusted producers, some obviously from her other* side that go to her with instrumental WIPs that she picks from and then they kind of flesh it out together. She contributes ideas and sometimes samples but they are doing most of the technical work. Outsourcing mixing and mastering is usually only needed for EP and album releases but I believe singles and covers are mixed/mastered by the producers themselves, but I could be wrong there. She probably has trusted go-to engineers for that by now. Before Hololive I know she was more involved and you can...hear that.

I think she's been around long enough to understand a lot of audio terminology to effectively communicate with her team, but is still relatively clueless with the actual technical side of it. Kronii unironically is more skilled with audio software than Mori.

I'm curious to see how UMG will change things, if at all.

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>>22035957
>kronii
what do you mean? Her soundbooth?

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>>22035994
VAs are usually pretty good with audio because they have to build up a huge portfolio of work to showcase their skills. They need to be good at recording and mixing for anyone to take their portfolio seriously.

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>>22035994
didn't kronii do the mixing for mumei?

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>>22035957
which plugin? if you can't provide the name, what does it do? if im remembering right, you're the one who said they make plugins several months ago

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>>22034298
She's at her best when singing the Hamilton Musical. Other than that, she's shit at almost everything. It's almost impressive she hadn't improved from all those vocal trainings.

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>>22034298
Retard

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>>22037241
Yes that was probably me who said that. It's a granular effect plugin. It got cracked 1 week after release which was...fun, but Mori's producer actually bought it.

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>>22037784
>granular
shit i probably pirated it too

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>>22037557
what I find more "impressive" is that for a while before Holofes, she said multiple times she was having "dance lessons" ... and for what, exactly? Her official performances have been mostly just been half-assed lazy wigger swaying and wheezing, which is frankly embarrassing for someone who was supposedly getting trained for months now

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>>22035028
It's been known that she doesn't have any part in the production or composition of her songs, and even with her lyrics she gets assistance.

Just look at the credits of her songs. She credits everyone involved and what they did.

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>>22035957
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She doesn't even run her own tiktok apparently. Not a good sign that she signed for a major, and is now talking about "team calli" talking her into doing things she doesn't actually want to do. Also talking about not responding to DMs.

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>think I've been too harsh on calli and open elden ring stream
>"I made a tik tok" "fake story about a girl who cried when her aunt told her she knew cali or something"
>close stream

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>>22040820
>(me!)

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>>22040841
I just hope we get (another) good drunk venting meltdown from her. The cuckbeat episode gave a nice taste of her future lolcow potential, and if she's already that chafed by not being able to put up with the bullshit parts of working for a vtuber entertainment company, ooh boy will she be triggered by all the bullshit a major label can pull on their artists

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>>22040841
>She doesn't even run her own tiktok apparently.
What does "run" mean, in this context? They technically don't "run" all their other vtuber accounts either, the company owns and has final control (admin privileges or whatever you wanna call it) over all their youtube and twitter accounts, and the talents basically only have guest access.

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>>22034228
>>22034298
>>22034625
>>22035028
>>22040794
>>22040820
>nitpicking this hard
Holy seethe the Universal deal really broke you guys. News flash, most musicians have dozens of people working on their song production. As long as she's writing her own lyrics, which she is, you shouldn't give a fuck.

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>>22034228
What's the Universal music group?

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>>22042592
lmao nice try though

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>>22034298
Ah so like most Hololive member lmao. Does Suisei even write her own lyrics?

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>"a daw? Oh is that something you can eat?"

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>>22040794
its because minor contributions by the artist arent usually credited, You'll seethe more if she credited herself with the minor things.

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>>22034228
Not just any DAW, it's Adobe Audition. What a fucking poser.

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>>22034228
>Adobe Audition
>DAW
>musical production
lmao, good one.
also, i don't know why there are some many people surprised that she does jack shit in her song creation process, when it's common knowledge that the music industry as a whole is a fucking pyramid scheme based on exploitation of actual music talent, used as a condom to make talentless fuckers look good in the eyes of their audience.
I bet her producers outsources their job to smaller musicians, slap some Cymatics/Vengeance loops on top of their work and call it a day, that's why we see 10-15+ people on the credits section of every top charter in Spotify, and Mori won't be any different considering she's now with UMG.

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>>22034298
>sings
Is that what we’re calling it?

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>>22034298
many such cases!

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>>22043366
doubt that, but at least she can actually sing

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>>22046502
she said once she knew how to use cubase which is weird because shes never streamed with it