Nadeshiko/Nadechama

[Anonymous No.]

Slay the spire in 30 minutes!
https://www.twitch.tv/nadechama

Schedule:
https://twitter.com/nadechama/status/1510975044188459008

Links:
https://twitter.com/nadechama
https://www.twitch.tv/nadechama
https://www.youtube.com/c/nadechama
https://ndsk.carrd.co

[Anonymous No.]

>>21979231
Glad she found a genre of games she likes
NADE LOVE

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>>21979269
These kind of games suits her, I would love to watch her try out master duel but it has a big learning curve and she has more than enough mediocre gachas to play already.

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Starting!
https://www.twitch.tv/nadechama

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>>21934248
Don't focus too hard on ccv. Viewer quality matters much more than that. For example, the last stream only gained her 1 new follower, while the stardew stream which performed worse for ccv got her 9 followers which is tied for 1st place for the last month (ignoring the raids)
https://twitchtracker.com/nadechama/streams/40694040475
https://twitchtracker.com/nadechama/streams/45974706957
Tying herself to a dead game is a dead end for growth.

>>21979269
>>21980209
I'd rather see her continue trying new types of games. She's barely even scratched the surface of gaming. She might find another genre she likes even more.

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>>21980837
as long as she has fun im happy
she clearly enjoys ccg more, wish vgzero wasnt a steaming pile of shit

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>>21980872
>as long as she has fun im happy
>she clearly enjoys ccg more
While I agree that she does like card games, it's not possible to know if she likes them more than other games if she's never tried them. It sounds more like you're happy that she's playing games that you enjoy and are projecting your preference on to her.

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>>21981115
>It sounds more like you're happy that she's playing games that you enjoy and are projecting your preference on to her.
Nta but ogey

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>>21981162
How can it be clear that she enjoys one thing more than other things if she's never experienced the other things?

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>>21981265
I rather not argue with you since it's pointless, let's just enjoy Nade in peace

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Rough unwashed sex with Nade!

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>>21979269
>>21980209
>>21981162
Yeah, I'm not seeing it either. She got attention yesterday because of whatever twitch did to put at the top of the category but that could happen with any game.

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>>21981691
>rough
>unwashed
she would absolutely hate it

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didn't she once mention wanting to try Apex unironically? what happened? Is she still doing fighting game reps?

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>>21981785
>didn't she once mention wanting to try Apex unironically? what happened?
I'm pretty sure that had more to do with Haruna rather than an interest in the game.
>Is she still doing fighting game reps?
She was playing Melty Blood with one of her friends but she hasn't mentioned it in a while.

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>Removes her best card
>Skips the chance at Necronomicon that carried her ass to (almost) victory last run
>Refuses to elaborate
Im scream laughing
Also as someone mentioned in chat, pic related.

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>>21981996
none of the viewers actually played this game or are interested in it
just listening to Nade is enough

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>>21982142
>none of the viewers actually played this game
False
>or are interested in it
Debatable
>just listening to Nade is enough
True
No need to be so defensive. Its just funny how she did a dum dum.

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>>21981996
>>21982142
I do play this game regulalry, ascension 12 with the 3 main characters but it doesn't bother me that much.
>just listening to Nade is enough
This part is true though

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Damn, if she likes this game because the progress loss is "small" to her, imagine her reactions to other more conventional games.

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>>21983309
Not like her 2D-only brain could really get around having to navigate something like Dark Souls/Elden Ring, let alone having to deal with losing all your cash/level up points

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>>21981691
Sign me up!

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>>21981691
I don't know what to think about adult man in their 30s lusting after JK

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>>21985241
That's the natural order of things. Also ackshually she's a uni student.

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I miss how she was
shes unwatchable now

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>>21985362
>Loli grew up.

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>>21985241
She dropped hints a stream or so ago that she’s legal now due to japans new laws!

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>>21985362
What specifically don't you like?

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>>21985494
based

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>>21981691
Only if she stops shaving.

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RATE

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Mikan is live, would have suggested a raid if I'd noticed a few seconds sooner
https://www.twitch.tv/nonomiyamikan

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>>21985744
>Hunger Games
Is Nade winning(

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>>21985744
I thought we agreed that this thread was going to stay Nade only.

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>>21985744
Uoh! Mink abs erotic!

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>>21985896
Obligatory >we, it's just one post and it's related to Nade as a possible raid target nitpicking-chama

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>>21986005
>it's related to Nade as a possible raid target
>would have suggested a raid if I'd noticed a few seconds sooner

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>>21985717
comfy/10
>>21981115
>using twitch followers as a metric over ccv

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>>21985868
Nade just died of dysentery

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>>21985681
disgusting
paipan is superior and I bet Nadechama agrees

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>>21986110
you realize those viewers aren't the type to stick with her when she plays a new game? As a streamer, a viewer who's only there for the game is way less valuable than a viewer that's watching for you.

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>>21986110
>>21986288
Fuck, I was going to plug the YouTube for the new viewers and forgot to do it both days.

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>>21986288
idk how playing a bunch of games would fix that tho lmao

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Mikan on Nade r18 fanart when?

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>>21986831
Why Mikan? It's not like she's her only vtuber friend.

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>>21986831
rather have nade bunny suit, easter soon

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>>21986876
Ticks off the most points on the Main Heroine checklist

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>>21986878
Oh, right, the list.
https://poal.me/ouwdic

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>>21986876
Ones a tomboy, the other a delicate flower. It’s a nice dynamic. Also they are very similar in age by the sound of it. Not to mention the only Nades collab partner. Though I think mikan would be dropping spaghetti in such a situation.

I do t think either of them would be comfortable seeing such a masterpiece, but I’m just entertaining my personal fiction in my head.

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>>21987067
What's this for?

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>>21985717
Climbing floors/10

The group chat joining fiasco seems like it may turn out positive in the end if Nade ends up making a friend out of it. Now she just needs to match up their profile picture to the real person. Though it sounds like it might be difficult if the photos are as filtered as she says. As for the game itself, she's making steady improvements towards her first victory. The game seems to be having a negative effect on the chat though. In the later parts of the stream the chat slowed down to where there were minutes between new messages, and I saw a 5 minute gap at one point.

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>>21987328
It's a version of the list of outfits that was posted on twitter a couple of weeks ago so it's kept somewhere other than an old twitter post. It's a poll for the hell of it, the top voted outfit isn't going to become official or anything like that.

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>>21985717
It was okay, just more game playing, unwinding, talking about the game. While I like her playing games and would like her to try others, they kinda detract from why I like Nade, most of these games aren't her "hobby" so she's not entirely passionate about them like the sorts of things she can ramble on about.

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>>21986461
The point is that there's no reason to pander to viewers of one game because they won't stick with her when she switches, whereas someone that watches something like a zatsudan or an art stream are more likely to watch her do other things since zatsudan and art are things that are more based on her personality.

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>>21987508
She promised an entire stream dedicated to rambling about LotR, but when?

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>>21987717
zatsus/art rarely draw new people in. i think she noticed this too. she's stuck in terms of where to go with her content. gfe route is one when she gets the asmr mic, also an 'easy' one & good to get dedicated viewers.

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>>21986461
>>21987717
>there's no reason to pander to viewers of one game
I agree. While she could feasibly center her content fully around digital card games, she's never expressed any intent to do so. Furthermore, she's shown aptitude for puzzle and strategy games outside of card based ones and other competitive games like fighters, both of which should interest the audiences of one game or the other because of the similarities stated above. If she did want to change her content to focus on growth, she'd be better off continuing to improve her fundamentals such as her visuals, audio, and chat interaction strategies instead.

As a side note, the last two streams haven't drawn in much more than average viewership. The more tangible benefit is the new names in the chatbox.

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I hate numberfag anon managers so much it's unreal
this is a hobby she doesn't think too hard about
stop with this nonsense

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>>21988822
Isnt there a vtuber manager simulator game, or was that idol manager.. Anons could mod in Nade to get their armchair Nade management fix.

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>>21988822
It's more of an issue of content quality. This all started from the reviews from yesterday's stream.

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>>21988226
>gfe route is one when she gets the asmr mic, also an 'easy' one & good to get dedicated viewers.
I think she should consider doing more hand cam streams too. She has a bit of a DIY interest, and has mentioned sewing things too. There's lots of creative projects she could do with a handcam. It would also allow her to show off her nails that she's so happy about.

>>21988778
>As a side note, the last two streams haven't drawn in much more than average viewership. The more tangible benefit is the new names in the chatbox.
Case in point, tonight's stream's stats were almost exactly the same as her art stream from exactly one week ago outside of the larger amount of new followers for tonight.
https://twitchtracker.com/nadechama/streams/40697114923
https://twitchtracker.com/nadechama/streams/40675687883

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>>21988778
>her visuals, audio, and chat interaction strategies
visuals getting an upgrade soon, audio mostly fixed. chat interaction point, not sure how she can improve it 2bh.

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>>21988778
>fighters
Soul Calibur... she could be playing with 2B right now... taking screenshots... putting her in other fighter's outfits... Saber CAS...

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>>21986878
>>21987067
If you want to see it, then draw it or commission skebs of it.

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didn't she say she wants to play Nier just so she can look at 2B ass?
I think based stream like that would be poggers and attract more people

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>>21989361
She could even start out with a play through of the story mode if she's worried about being good enough to play online. Also it's a more popular game than Melty Blood and goes on sale for a heavy discount fairly often so if she wanted to play against viewers then it'd be more likely they own the game, or could purchase it cheaply.

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>>21989296
>audio mostly fixed
Her voice is clear, but not quite crisp, if that makes sense. I know it's been a frustration point for her in the past but perfect audio quality is something that keeps audiences around, especially casual viewers.

>chat interaction on point
It's weak during gameplay streams, which makes sense as she's focusing on the game at the same time. I've seen plenty of streamers pull it off but I don't mean to pretend that it's easy. Still, it's particularly an issue with a game like this where what's happening on screen may not necessarily be able to compensate.

Overall she's fine, don't get me wrong. If she felt she needed to alter her content, this is what I'd go for rather than focusing on game choice. Besides, as you pointed out yourself, the visuals are already in the works.

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>>21989649
As a kid I literally played more of SC2's single player than I did playing the actual versus kek

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>>21989038
You mean Vtuber模擬器? There's a character creator so you might not even need a mod.

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>>21987109
I wouldn't write off Nade's own tomboyish traits. She's no gym bro but she's proven to be very resilient. Anyway, I don't think we have any artists around who aren't busy with school but maybe someone can pull off an edit of something like this image.

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>>21986831
>>21987109
>>21990766
Reminder that Nade doesn't like shipping real people and thinks it's weird. With the way Nade views her vtuber identity I'm pretty sure this would fall under her idea of "real" too.

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>>21991055
Yeah, if you must ship Nade then ship her with Saber or something.

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>>21991553
>>21991055
Original pitcher here, i didnt see it as shipping, just plain ol' artistry of two cuties cutely doing the dirty.

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>>21991055
I assume she has a realistic view of the situation including the understanding that some people see the avatar as separate from the talent with works like this. Not like I was going to commission any art like this anyway.

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>>21991719
If I were to get something, it'd be something like a before/after of Nade in 2 swim outfits, one from 2021 the other from 2022, trying her best to appeal in her flatter, pinker form, then appealing very well in her newer form.

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>>21991693
Isn't that even worse?
>Hey Nade, look at this art of you having sex with your friend!

>>21991719
The whole idea of the new model is to match closely to IRL Nade but with a fantasy twist. She designed the her self made vtuber model based off her own clothing, and wants to dye her hair white IRL to match with her model. She wants to include accessories she has IRL like her clip on earrings to the professional model. When someone asked her if she got flower hairclips IRL she said yes, but that she'd need ribbons to keep them in the position they are on the model.

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>>21991956
>Hey Nade, look at this art of you having sex with your friend!
Sounds pretty funny actually when you put it that way.

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>>21983722
>Dark Souls/Elden Ring
If only. Hidetaka Miyazaki's dark fantasy settings sound right up her alley. Maybe she could find some enjoyment out of watching some lore videos instead.

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>>21988226
The prospect of GFE scares me. You guys are alright but kind of obsessive.

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>>21993776
Nade was always my GFE
also I have a feeling she wants more gachis, but maybe I'm projecting

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>>21993776
I have yet to see Nade do gfe stuff, even in the past there was no serious attempt at it as far as I recall. Nor do I see her being the way she is pandering heavy into gfe territory. Gfe anons will remain gfeless imho.

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>>21993978
>yet to see Nade do gfe stuff
literally how new

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>>21994075
Your definition of gfe must be completely different than industry standard.

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>>21994234
I guess her kisses, intimate spaces, valentine stream, date in google view and asmr streams do not count as gfe for you

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>>21983722
>>21993228
What about this: Mark of the NInja. It's a 2D stealth game where you lurk in dark spaces to kill people in cool ways.

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>>21995593
I'm not sure if that would be her taste as I don't see cute girls in there
also she is currently obbsesed with shadoba and slayza
maybe after she gets bored of them we will see something new

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>>21995799
>I'm not sure if that would be her taste as I don't see cute girls in there
There's a female companion

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>>21995593
>>21995799
Generally, if there's a game you would want to see in stream, this is feedback that most content creators would like to hear.

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>>21997843
Where? When? Last time Nade asked for suggestions on-stream, she'd already moved on to another topic before I could even remember what I wanted to say.

This thread used to be the easiest way to make suggestions to Nade, when she was still reading it. Now the only way to do it is through Twitter, but I think if you tweeted them at her out of the blue it would just annoy her. And she's never made Twitter posts asking for suggestions.

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>>21999872
Generally, anon, generally. And there's always marshmallow.

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>>22000284
>And there's always marshmallow.
I thought Nade only read those when she was planning a Q&A stream? She doesn't have a link to it anywhere, not even Carrd.

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>>21993912
same, girl literally said she won't get a bf. the question is were she to start gfe, could she convert her nongachi regulars or would it take drawing in new regulars to tip the audience into gachimode?

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>>22000490
she said that suggestions and game codes all go to marshmallows
while it's true it isn't linked in her profile, you can still find it

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>>22001703
I think we will saw what the direction she will take after new model reveal

but yeah her wondering about what kind of audience she has is probably related to gachi question as one time Subaru did a survey and was disappointed by the lack of gachis (interesting after this shuba changed her content accordingly to increase her gfe appeal)

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>>22003021
usually (not always) asmr & gfe are a good combo. may even help her quit one of her jobs if she gets whale gachis. idk, i think it would be a solid idea, she's got the personality for it too.

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>>22003021
If she wants to up her gfe appeal, what should she do

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>>22005427
Isn't it obvious? more asmr, situation voice, interesting concept date streams, welcoming back her gachis and remembering their names etc
it's not rocket science, but I think she knows that perfectly well herself

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>>22006324
Pretty obvious in retrospect, >>22001703 is the main factor to consider. She's not bad at Gfe but is it too late to pivot in that direction.

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>>22008012
it's not too late
especially when her rebirth will be coming soon
she even wants to show us some flowers

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>>22008296
Hope so, she's releasing a situation vid this week

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Is she actually Japanese? She sounds Chinese or something similar in accent.

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>>22011340
Taiwanese/Japanese mixed, studied overseas, lives in Japan rn